* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] ALRIGHT, EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ROCKWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL MEET IN THE WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR ONE 30. IT'S 1 44. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TRUANCY. IT IS NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP. UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA IS THE PUBLIC FORUM. IT'S THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ABOUT ANYTHING RELATED TO THE WORKSHOP. AND IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY SPEAKING. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM [2. Discussion of Rockwall County Strategic Planning 2050 - Develop Key Indicators and Performance Targets, and all related issues; (Commissioner Macalik)] TWO. DISCUSSION OF ROCKWELL COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN 2050, DEVELOP KEY INDICATORS AND PERFORMANCE TARGETS IN ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER M**K, YOU WANNA GIVE US A BRIEF? UM, JUST TURN IT OVER ACTUALLY. RYAN BRECKENRIDGE IS GONNA GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE. DO WE NEED TO SPEAK AND GIVE, UH, FIRST SPEAK, GIVE, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OH, FOR THE RECORD. I DON'T, DO WE NEED TO? YES. DO WE NEED TO SAY WHO'S HERE? I THINK SO. WE'RE IN WORK WE DID LAST TIME, SO, YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY FROM THE START. WILL YOU START US OFF PLEASE? KENDA COLE PEPPER, ROCKWELL COUNTY, DISTRICT ATTORNEY. WHAT'S VERA COUNTY COMMISSIONER PRECINCT ONE. DANA MACKLA COUNTY COMMISSIONER PRECINCT TWO. FRANK NEW ROCKWELL COUNTY JUDGE. BOBBY ALANA, COMMISSIONER PRECINCT, ONE ELECT. JOHN STACY, COUNTY COMMISSIONER PRECINCT FOUR. TOM KULA, CONCERNED CITIZEN AND PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE. . TERRY GARRETT, ROCKWELL COUNTY SHERIFF. LAUREN LICHTY. PRESIDENT LAUREN LICHTY, PRESIDENT OF THE OPEN SPACE ALLIANCE. DEBORAH SHINDER, DEPUTY MAYOR PROM CITY RALLY. DAVID BILLINGS, THE MAYOR OF FATE. AND DENNIS BAILEY, COUNTY COMMISSIONER OF PRECINCT THREE. GREAT. THANK YOU ALL. UH, AND JUST AS FOR THE RECORD, UH, FIRST TIME SPEAKING, IF WE DO PASS YOU THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE LIST NAME AND ADDRESS. I'LL START. RYAN BRECKENRIDGE. UH, FROM FATE, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UM, THE LEADERSHIP TEAM AND THE CSC FOR THE LAST 14 MONTHS. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, GIVING YOUR TIME AND PRIORITY, UH, TO HEAR THE CURRENT STATE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. THANK YOU, THAT ARE JOINING US IN THE AUDIENCE. AND THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE ONLINE WATCHING AS WELL. UH, TODAY'S PUBLIC WORK SESSION IS TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE MOVING FORWARD WITH KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THE SIX GOALS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE COURT BACK IN OCTOBER. UH, AS A REFRESH, KPIS ARE VITAL FOR TRACKING PERFORMANCE, GUIDING DECISION MAKING, AND ENSURING THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN REMAINS FOCUSED TO THE STRATEGIC GOALS MOVING FORWARD. UH, AS A REMINDER, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE, THERE ARE FIVE BY SEVEN WHITE, UH, NOTE CARDS ON THE BACK TABLE. SHOULD YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UH, NEED FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON, OR JUST HAVE US DISCUSS FURTHER IN DEPTH, PLEASE PICK ONE UP. MY REQUEST IS THAT YOU WOULD PUT THE GOAL NUMBER AND IF THERE'S A A SPECIFIC POINT ON IT, LIST THAT OUT AS WELL. I'LL BE SITTING RIGHT HERE AT THE CORNER NEXT TO COMMISSIONER M**K. YOU CAN HAND THOSE TO ME AND THEN I WILL FUNNEL THEM UP TO THE PODIUM, UH, WHEN THE TIME IS CORRECT. UM, A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING. UH, WE'RE A LITTLE LATE GETTING STARTED. WE DO HAVE SIX GOALS TO GO THROUGH. WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO GET THROUGH AS MANY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO A LITTLE BIT OUT OF NUMERICAL ORDER TODAY. UM, SO WE WILL GO WITH GOAL ONE, GOAL FOUR, GOAL SIX, HOPEFULLY GOAL THREE AND TIME PERMITTING. WE'LL DO GOAL GOALS TWO AND FIVE IF NECESSARY. WE WILL WORK THROUGH GOALS TWO AND FIVE TOMORROW DURING AN ADDITIONAL WORK SESSION. UH, AS IT REFRESHED. THE FOLLOWING IS A LISTING OF THE SIX OPERATING GOALS THAT WE WILL BE ASSIGNING KPIS TO. GOAL ONE, PROMOTE TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY AND GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS. GOAL TWO, POSITION THE COUNTY FOR GROWTH. GOAL THREE, STRENGTHEN LOCAL, REGIONAL, AND STATE COLLABORATION. GOAL FOUR, INVEST IN COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE. GOAL FIVE, FOSTER ECONOMIC GROWTH WHILE PROTECTING LOCAL CULTURE AND TRADITIONS. AND GOAL SIX EXPANDS SUPPORT FOR JUDICIAL SYSTEM, LAW ENFORCEMENT, ENFORCEMENT, FIRE, EMERGENCY, AND PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES. AT THIS POINT. UH, HAPPY TO TURN THINGS OVER TO OUR, UH, CONSULTING TEAM FROM BAKER TILLY THAT ARE HERE. KAYLA, STANFIELD, STANFIELD, AND WOODY BATTLE. THANK YOU. I NEED THIS ONE. YOU HAVE IT. NEXT. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. I'M KAYLA STANFIELD, PROJECT [00:05:01] DIRECTOR WITH BAKER TILLEY. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME'S WOODY BATTLE. I'M A CONSULTING MANAGER AND PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE, UH, BAKER TILLY FIRM. UH, HERE WITH, UH, MY COLLEAGUE KAYLA STANFIELD. THANK YOU AGAIN, ALL FOR TAKING THE TIME. WE'RE GONNA START WITH JUST A FEW INTRODUCTORY SLIDES TO RECAP WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROJECT AND REITERATE WHERE WE ARE IN ITS, UH, COMPLETION. THIS IS AN AGENDA THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED, AND RYAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTRO COMMENTS. HE HIGHLIGHTED THAT WE MAY GO SLIGHTLY OUT OF ORDER WITH THE SIX STRATEGIC GOALS. WE THINK THAT IS TO THE BENEFIT OF THE GROUP AT THE TABLE, ESPECIALLY SINCE LAST, UH, SESSION. WE, UM, FELT LIKE THE LATTER FEW OPERATING INITIATIVES, UH, WE CAN GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, TLC IF YOU WILL. SO PULLING THOSE CLOSER TO THE FRONT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS WORKSHOP TODAY IS TO DISCUSS THE PLANNING PROCESS, RECAP THOSE OPERATING INITIATIVES. THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO DEFINE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. WE'LL GIVE AN INTRODUCTION ON WHAT WE MEAN BY THOSE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SHARE WHATEVER THOUGHTS YOU HAVE WITH REGARD TO, UH, HOW THOSE SHOULD LOOK, HOW THEY SHOULD BE STRUCTURED. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS OUR PROCESS. AND THE OVERALL PLAN WILL CONTAIN SOME OF THE ELEMENTS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE, A VISION, MISSION AND VALUES, STRATEGIC GOALS AND OPERATING INITIATIVES, AS WELL AS THEIR INDICATORS, KEY TIME HORIZONS, WHICH WE BROKE INTO THREE BUCKETS TO HELP MAKE THE PLAN MORE ACTIONABLE ACROSS THE FULL TIMELINE. AND THEN SOME CHANGE MANAGEMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION THAT WE WILL ASSIST, UH, AS THE BAKER TILLY PROJECT TEAM. THE RESULTS OF THE LAST OPERATING INITIATIVES WORKSHOP, UH, EARLIER IN OCTOBER, LED WITH SIX STRATEGIC GOALS. WE LEFT WITH SIX STRATEGIC GOALS. OF THOSE, THERE'S 34 OPERATING INITIATIVES. SO THESE ARE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ATTACH SOME METRIC TO TODAY, AND WE WILL GET INTO MORE DETAIL ON WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE. THIS IS A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE OVERALL PROJECT PLAN ITSELF. YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, WHAT IS SHADED BLUE IS WHAT WE'VE COMPLETED TO DATE AND WHAT IS RED IS WHAT IS STILL OUTSTANDING. THE OPERATING INITIATIVES IS WHERE WE ARE AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO TALKING IN MORE DETAIL. LASTLY, WE, UH, GATHERED ALL OF THE RESULTS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO DATE FROM A VERY VARIED SOURCES, THE COMMUNITY STEERING COMMITTEE, WHICH HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN GATHERING THE SENTIMENT OF THE COMMUNITY AND KEY STAKEHOLDERS AROUND THE AREA. ROCKWELL COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN LEADERSHIP COMMITTEE TEAM, AND THE BAKER TILLY AND SUB-CONS CONSULTING FREEZE AND NICHOLS TEAM THAT HAVE ASSISTED IN THE DATA GATHERING EFFORTS. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA JUMP INTO WHAT WE MEAN BY KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK US WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TO CLARIFY BEFORE WE JUMP INTO DEFINING THESE MORE DETAIL. I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE. ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT ARE KPIS? UM, I'LL FIRST START BY SAYING WHAT IS NOT A-K-P-I-A-K-P-I FOR THE DISCUSSION? TODAY IS NOT A TASK, IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC THING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING. IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MEASURABLE, MEASURABLE VALUES THAT WILL BE ASSIGNING TO THOSE INITIATIVES THAT WE BROUGHT UP IN THE LAST WORKSHOP. SO THEY'RE MEASURABLE VALUES THAT HELP YOU TRACK AND ACHIEVE PROGRESS, UM, LOOKING FOR TOWARDS SPECIFIC GOALS. THEY'LL PROVIDE A WAY TO EVALUATE HOW EFFECTIVE THOSE TASKS ARE BEING ACCOMPLISHED AND ACHIEVING SOMETHING. SO EVEN IF IT'S A NEGATIVE VALUE, AS WE'RE TRACKING A KPI, WE WANNA TRACK THAT PURPOSE TO SEE WHERE WE MIGHT THEN FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE GET IT TO GO BACK INTO THE POSITIVE SIDE OR WHAT ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE MIGHT MIGHT WANNA MAKE. SO THAT WAY WE SHOW THE FUTURE FORWARD PROGRESS. THE PURPOSE OF A KPI IS TO MONITOR THE PERFORMANCE AND GUIDE YOUR DECISION MAKING, UM, AS WE LOOK AT THEM AND MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR KPI TRACKING, SOMETIMES IT'S A, A MATTER OF MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT KPI ANYMORE. SO AS YOU DO CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT AND A CONTINUOUS ADJUSTMENT, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO EVALUATE TO SAY, DOES THIS EVEN NEED TO STAY ON THE LIST? UM, SOME KPIS COULD BE FINANCIAL KPIS, CUSTOMER ER FOCUSED KPIS, SATISFACTION PROCESS FOCUSED KPIS, OR EVEN STRATEGIC KPIS. SO THERE'S A FEW EXAMPLES THAT WE HAVE SHARED THERE WITH YOU. UM, SOME EFFECTIVE KPIS ARE WHAT MANY OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD ARE SMARTY OR SMART GOALS. SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM, THEY COULD BE SPECIFIC, MEASURABLE, ACHIEVABLE, RELEVANT, AND TIME BOUND AS WELL. SO IN OUR LAST DISCUSSION, WE DID TALK ABOUT HOW WE PUT SOME TIME HORIZONS TO THOSE THINGS. SO AS WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE LIST OF KPIS, WE'LL BE SHOWING WHAT TIME HORIZON WE CHOSE FOR THOSE SPECIFIC [00:10:01] INITIATIVES. SO AS WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THE KPIS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ASSIGN WHAT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE FOR THEM. AND KPIS CAN BE APPLIED AT, OOPS, LEMME GO BACK. KPIS CAN BE APPLIED AT DIFFERENT LEVELS WITHIN YOUR PLAN, FROM ORGANIZATION-WIDE METRICS TO DOWN TO SPECIFIC, UM, DEPARTMENT METRICS. AND YOU CAN EVEN TAKE THEM A LEVEL LOWER. BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS SPECIFIC PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY SAY DEPARTMENT AND UP. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON DEFINITIONS OF A KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR? ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE BENEFITS THEY HELP WITH YOUR STRATEGIC PLANS ALIGNMENT. SO IT CONTINUOUSLY, AGAIN, HELPS YOU JUST TO SEE WHERE ARE WE, WHAT ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE. THEY HELP YOU TO IDENTIFY THOSE KEY AREAS. UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CHOOSING THINGS THAT ARE QUANTIFIABLE. AND THEN AS YOU'RE DEVELOPING KPIS, ALSO START THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE OUR DATA SOURCES GOING TO BE? WHERE ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET THIS INFORMATION? SO THOSE ARE THINGS JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE AUTOMATED? UM, BEST PRACTICES AND PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENT IS HOW DO WE AUTOMATE THESE? WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE, NOT ONLY JUST FOR THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THOSE TASKS AND THE KPIS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM, BUT ALSO WHERE YOU CAN QUICKLY FIND THE INFORMATION AND SHARE THEM WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE, AS QUICK AS AS POSSIBLE. YOU WANNA SET DATA QUALITY CONTROLS AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT YOUR KPIS THAT YOU DEVELOP ARE GOOD QUALITY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE WANNA MAKE SURE AS YOU'RE DEVELOPING YOUR KPIS, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING FROM GOOD SOURCES AND RELEVANT SOURCES. AND THEN WE WANNA SET BASELINES AND TARGETS FOR SOME OF THESE KPIS FOR YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN. THEY'RE COMPLETELY BRAND NEW. SO OUR TARGET OR OUR BASELINE, EXCUSE ME, MIGHT BE A ZERO AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO IMPROVE IT UP. OR YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME THAT, THAT YOU'RE ALREADY TRACKING BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT KPIS ARE SOME PAST SOME PRESENT AND ALSO SOME FUTURE KPIS. BUT WE'LL, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE WE SET THOSE TARGETS. UM, FOR TODAY'S, UM, SPECIFIC WORKSHOP, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SETTING THE BASELINE IN TARGETS. WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT FOR TODAY WE ARE DEF UM, SELECTING SOME OF THE KPIS THAT WE WANT TO USE MOVING FORWARD FOR YOUR PLAN. SO FOR TODAY'S WORKSHOP, UM, WE HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED ALL YOUR SIX GOALS. AS RYAN MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED YOUR OPERATING INITIATIVES, UM, WHICH WERE THE 34 THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN THE LAST ONE, AND WE ALSO IDENTIFIED YOUR STRATEGIC TIME HORIZONS FOR THAT. SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING A FULL VIEW FROM START TO FINISH ALL OF YOUR INFORMATION. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME, UM, RECOMMENDED KPIS THAT COME FROM SOURCES SUCH AS YOUR CSC COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS SOME RECOMMENDED ONES FROM BAKER TILLY AS WELL. SO WE WANNA REALLY HAVE A THOROUGH DISCUSSION OF THE KPIS THAT ARE LISTED. WE WANNA GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THEM. WE WANNA SEE IF THERE'S THINGS YOU WANNA ADD. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK THROUGH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE GONNA BE RELEVANT FOR USE IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN. AND WITH THAT, IF, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT WE WILL BE DOING THROUGHOUT THE SESSION TODAY? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, WE'LL GET STARTED WITH OUR FIRST ONE. OKAY, THANK YOU KAYLA. STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER ONE READS, PROMOTE TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS. THERE ARE SIX OPERATING INITIATIVES ASSOCIATED WITH GOAL NUMBER ONE. THESE WERE DECIDED ON IN THE LAST WORKSHOP. AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS ASSIGN SOME INITIATIVES, OR SORRY, SOME INDICATORS FOR EACH OF THESE SIX. LET ME READ THROUGH THESE, UM, AT THE INDIVIDUAL LEVEL, JUST SO WE DON'T NEED TO REPEAT OURSELVES HERE. LET'S JUST DIVE RIGHT INTO NUMBER ONE. AND IF THIS IS TOO SMALL, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I CAN NAVIGATE US A LITTLE BIT CLOSER AS WELL FOR THOSE AROUND THE TABLE AND IN THE AUDIENCE. THE FIRST OPERATING INITIATIVE READS ADOPT A PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARD THAT TIES THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO ACTIONS AND BUDGET. SO THIS IS A PRETTY INTERNAL FACING INITIATIVE. WE'VE LISTED SOME INITIAL TASKS AND THEY READ, UH, ADOPT A SOLUTION AND BEGIN TRAINING FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS INITIATIVE BY FY 26 AND ESTABLISH A TRACKING OF PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS TO ALIGN WITH BUDGET EXECUTION. THE KPI READS TO DETERMINE A PERCENTAGE OF STRATEGIC GOALS ACHIEVED BY THE INTENDED TIME HORIZON. [00:15:03] AT AT WHAT POINT DO YOU WANT US TO BRING UP, UH, COMMENTS, FEEDBACK, AND JUST WONDERING WHY WE SKIPPED ONE. ONE. YEAH. OH, PLEASE. YES. THANK YOU. I JUST REALIZED I WAS IN 1.2. LET ME GO BACK TO 1.1. MY APOLOGIES HERE. SO CREATE A COUNTY PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS PLAN TO ENHANCE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND AWARENESS. THE KPI READS AN ENGAGEMENT PERCENTAGE INCREASE FOR NEW AND EXISTING DATA CHANNELS. SO THIS ONE'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE JUST WANT TO GATHER COUNTY PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS PLAN AND ENHANCE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION. HOW WOULD WE MEASURE THIS BY AN ENGAGEMENT PERCENTAGE, ESSENTIALLY? SO IF YOU'RE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS AS A WAY TO TRACK THIS, UH, OPERATING INITIATIVE, THEN WE'RE, UH, HAPPY TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFY WHAT IT IS WE'RE SUGGESTING HERE. I THINK A USEFUL ONE MIGHT BE MM-HMM. TO, UH, ADD A KPI IN RELATION TO CUSTOMER SATISFACTION SURVEY FEEDBACK. OKAY. THAT, THAT'S A GREAT KPI THAT CAN, UH, PLAY INTO A NUMBER OF AREAS. IT'S A PROVEN TOOL TO GET, UH, FEEDBACK ON PARTICULAR AREAS SO THAT YOU ARE PUTTING OUT THE RIGHT KIND OF INFORMATION. YEAH. AND JUST SEEING WHO'S GOING IN. OKAY. THANK YOU. I I I HAVE IT. SORRY. PLEASE. PRIORITY, THE PRIORITIZATION. YES. AND THE TIME HORIZON. WHEN WERE THOSE, LIKE WHO ESTABLISHED THOSE? YES. THE TIME HORIZONS WERE ESTABLISHED AS PART OF THE PREVIOUS OPERATING INITIATIVES WORKSHOP. OKAY. SO NOT ONLY DID WE DECIDE WHICH GOALS, BUT ALSO WHAT THEIR, WHERE THEY FELL IN THE TIME HORIZON FOR THE PLAN. SO YOU'LL SEE EACH OPERATING INITIATIVE HAS ITS CORRESPONDING TIME HORIZON. AND WE ALSO LISTED WHEN IT WOULD IDEALLY START. SO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, JOHN. IT IT DID. OKAY. THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW ONES WHERE ALL THE ONES THAT SAY THAT THEY'RE ACTIONABLE ARE VERY DIFFICULT. OKAY. AND ALL THE ONES THAT SAY ARE AMBITIOUS ARE VERY EASY . OKAY. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IN, IN INITIALLY, I JUST DON'T THINK OF WHY PRIORITIZED, UH, THE WAY IT WAS. AND IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A QUESTION. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GONNA CREATE A COMMUNICATION PLAN THAT'S A LOT HARDER THAN CREATING A COMMISSIONER'S ADVISORY COUNCIL. YOU'RE GOING TO REVIEW AND REFINE ALL THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT. THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT EASIER THAN, UM, BETTER INTEGRATING EXISTING PUBLIC COMMITTEES. IS YOUR MICROPHONE. I DON'T EVEN HAVE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE MIC THIS MICRO RECORD ON AT ALL. HERE, HAND HAND ME THAT AND I'LL SOLVE THAT WHILE YOU TALK TO THIS ONE. GO SOLVER. I FIGURED OUT THE MAGIC BUTTON. YEAH. SO, UM, SO, WELL, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S GOING, YEAH, I CAN'T HEAR IT. ANYWAYS. UM, THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS, OKAY. IS THE, THE PRIORITIZATION AND THE TIME HORIZONS, UM, AND THEN I MEAN, I, I AGREE WITH THAT. KPI, THAT, THAT WAS JUST MY FIRST THOUGHT PROCESSES. OKAY. SOME OF THIS STUFF, THIS SEEMS AMBITIOUS, ISN'T AMBITIOUS AT ALL. AND THE THINGS TO SAY ACTIONABLE ARE FAIRLY AMBITIOUS. OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. ANYTHING ELSE FEELS THAT WAY OR SEES IT THAT WAY? SURE. SOME OF THIS STUFF CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT. YEAH, PLEASE. WELL, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS AND THERE WERE DISAGREEMENTS. YEAH. BECAUSE WE HAD THIS WHOLE THING SPREAD OUT WHERE WE HAVE LIKE, UH, YEAR ONE, YEAR ONE THROUGH 5, 5, 10, WHATEVER. MM-HMM MM-HMM. . UM, AND CERTAINLY I'M SURE YOU, WE COULD MAKE CHANGES TO SOME OF THOSE. AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. THERE WAS DISAGREEMENT. HOW WAS CHOSEN WAS PEOPLE SITTING IN A COMMITTEE AND SAYING, OKAY, WELL WHAT DO YOU THINK'S REASONABLE? AND THIS IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH, RIGHT. BECAUSE WE SPREAD IT OUT FOR THE WHOLE 25 YEARS OF THE PLAN. AND SOME OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE OBJECTIONS I HAD TO THIS WHOLE THING, JOHN, IS FAR NOT OBJECTIONS, BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS I HAD AS FAR AS TIME HORIZONS, SOME OF THESE THINGS GO ON FOR 25 YEARS, BUT WE TRIED TO PUT IN A TIME HORIZON, WHICH WAS WHEN WILL WE START? IT KIND OF, YES. I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE ONE BECAUSE ALL SIX STARTED IMMEDIATELY SAW A LITTLE BIT OF THIS THIS MORNING IN COURT MOVING THE SOFTWARE. YES. YEAH. THIS AND WE HAVE TODAY. UM, JOHN, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, I MEAN, THIS ONE, I MEAN, YOU SAID THAT BEING ACTIONABLE, UM, AS FAR AS THE, UM, HORIZON IS, IS MIGHT TO, TO OWN. BUT THIS IS, UM, THERE ARE LOTS OF BEST [00:20:01] PRACTICES AND LINE OF EXAMPLES OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT YEAH, MY MY POINT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE 1.4 VERSUS 1.1, 1.4 IS DECIDED TO BE AMBITIOUS WITH A FIVE TO 15 YEAR LIKE TIME HORIZON. I MEAN, WE COULD CREATE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADVISORY COUNCIL BY THE END OF THE YEAR. WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, WE, WE, WE ACTUALLY DID TALK ABOUT THAT AND WE SAW A LOT OF ROADBLOCKS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN, UM, THAT COULD, COULD DERAIL THIS AHEAD, DANA. BUT IT SAYS START 2025. OKAY. THIS IS NOVEMBER, 2024. YEAH. SO EVERY ONE OF THESE HAVE A START DATE WITH THEM. NOW YOU HAVE TWO COURT MEETINGS LEFT PROBABLY UNTIL NEXT YEAR. SO IT SAYS, IT SAYS STARTS FFY 2025. EXACTLY WHEN YOU START THIS, IT MAY TAKE MONTHS MINUTE TO TAKE OFF. THESE ARE HARDER THAN PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE. MM-HMM. . RIGHT. BUT THEY ALL, THEY ALL SAID START AT FY 25. SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S BEEN DELAYED FOR BUYERS. NO. OKAY. GREAT. AND FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS WORKSHOP TODAY, WE CAN, WE'RE HAPPY TO REVIEW WHERE WE LANDED ON ANY OF THE PREVIOUS RESULTS OF THE PREVIOUS WORKSHOP. UM, DEFINING THE KPIS IS JUST OUR MAIN FOCUS FOR TODAY. SO IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS AROUND, YEAH, LAST TIME WE THOUGHT THIS FELL ON A DIFFERENT TIME HORIZON, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE FRESH EYES ON THIS INITIATIVE, UH, THE GROUP FEELS AS THOUGH WE WANNA UPDATE THAT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SUGGEST AN ALTERNATIVE. OKAY. AND WHAT WE HAVE IS A POTENTIAL KPI FOR CUSTOMER SATISFACTION OR, UM, STAKEHOLDER CONSTITUENT SATISFACTION. AND THIS WOULD BE DERIVED BY SURVEY FEEDBACK, UM, ATTACHED TO THIS COMMUNICATION PLAN. IS EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AS A MEANS OF MEASURING THIS INITIATIVE? OKAY. AND WHAT WE'D WANT TO DO IS JUST ASSIGN AN INITIAL TASK THAT RELATES TO THAT. WE'D PROBABLY RECOMMEND, UM, JUST DEVELOPING A MORE ROBUST SURVEY IF THERE'S ALREADY THOSE THAT EXIST. UM, AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE. SPECIFICALLY. WE DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SURVEY TO GET MORE INFORMATION BACK. IT'S A GREAT WAY. BUT HOW DOES THE COUNTY, OR HOW DOES THIS COMMITTEE GOING TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THE PE TO ALL THE PEOPLE? WE WE'RE NOT LIKE A CITY WHERE THEY HAVE A WATER BILL, THEY CAN PUT IT IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HOW DO WE GET THAT OUT TO THEM? WELL, WE GO AHEAD. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S STILL TO BE DETERMINED. WE HAVE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MULTIPLE OPTIONS. UM, SOME OF IT IS, WOULD BE A COUNTYWIDE START STARTING WITH THE COUNTY. THE INDIVIDUAL CITIES WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO INTERACT AND PUSH IT IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT WAYS, WHETHER THAT'S ANALOG OR DIGITAL OR WORD OF MOUTH. UH, WE TALKED ABOUT IS YOU OLD SCHOOL AND, AND COUNTYWIDE TOWN HALLS, UH, EVENTS. UH, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TOO, WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS TRYING TO PROACTIVELY IDENTIFY ANNUAL EVENTS WHERE THE MASSES WITHIN THE COUNTY ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED AND HAVE SOME SORT OF MESSAGING AROUND THAT. WE DID THAT WITH THE SURVEYS IN THE SUMMER, IN THE SPRING, UH, WITH ELECTION AND VOTING DAYS, UM, JUST TO CAPTURE MORE EYEBALLS. BUT I DON'T THINK WE DEFINITIVELY DECIDED ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND ANOTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT WAS TO LOOK AT A CHANNEL LIKE THE NICKEL CHANNEL THAT WE HAVE, NOT NICKEL NOT WHAT WE'RE USING CURRENTLY, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND IDENTIFY THAT AND HAVE PEOPLE SIGN UP THAT THEY WANNA GET INFORMATION. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS AS WELL. YEAH. I THINK IF YOU LOOK THROUGH ALL OF THESE OPERATING INITIATIVES IN THIS ONE, ONE THROUGH FIVE, ACTUALLY 1.22, 1.3, FOUR, AND FIVE, THEY ALL KIND OF HAVE WAYS THAT WE CAN GET THIS MESSAGE OUT AND GET INPUT FROM PEOPLE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'LL REFINE. I THINK HOPEFULLY WE WILL, WE CAN DO A GOOD JOB OF IT. BUT LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COUNCIL COMMISSIONER, COURT ADVISORY COUNCIL IS 1.4. THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY AGAIN, TO BRING IDEAS IN TO GET THE MESSAGE UP AND TRY AND GET INPUT. OKAY. SO I I HOPE THAT'S, IF WE DON'T FOCUS ON THAT, WE'RE FAILING. IF WE DON'T GET THE MESSAGE OUT, WE'RE FAILING. OKAY. AND, AND I THINK, AND, AND I THINK THAT ADVISORY COUNCIL, , YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL. I THINK WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS TO HAVE THAT BE KIND OF REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW CITIES HAVE VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND WE WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT TYPE OF INVOLVEMENT. THAT WAS, UM, HAD THE FIRST GROUP OF INDIVIDUAL ON THOSE. [00:25:03] DANA, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR YOU OR FOR BAKER TILLY, BUT ON THE, ON THE SURVEYS, WHEN OR WHAT TYPE OF SURVEYS DO YOU RECOMMEND OR WHEN WOULD YOU CHOOSE THOSE? I MEAN, YOU GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOCKER SCALE. IS THERE GONNA BE A FOCUS GROUP, IS GONNA BE PERSONAL INTERVIEWS, A MIXED METHOD? UM, IT SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT KIND OF DATA YOU WANT WITH IT. QUANTITATIVE OR QUALITATIVE. CORRECT. SO IS THERE POINT IN HERE? WELL, TO GET BACK TO KIND OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING DIRECTING US, WE DIDN'T GO DOWN TO DRILL DOWN TO THE TASK AREA. WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP IT UP ON THE LEVEL THAT THEY SHARED WITH US. KIND OF WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE. AND THEN, AND THEN AS FAR AS, I WOULD SAY THAT AS WE START TO SOLVE THINGS, AND LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU COME TO US WITH AN IDEA OF A, OF A SURVEY OF SOME KIND, WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE OUTCOME WE'RE TRYING TO GET AND WHAT KIND OF VEHICLE WOULD BE THE BEST TO DO THAT WITH. BUT I, I, I THINK THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE ALL TALKED ABOUT. YEP. AGREED. EXACTLY. OKAY. OKAY. IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD TO 1.2. THIS READS, ADOPT A PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARD THAT TIES THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO THE ACTIONS AND THE BUDGET. AND SO, UH, THIS WOULD BE A PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARD. ANYONE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE PROGRESS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS A WHOLE. AND THIS WOULD, IN A KPI SHOW AS, UH, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE STRATEGIC GOALS THAT ARE ACHIEVED BY THEIR INTENDED TIME HORIZON. SO WE'D OBVIOUSLY CREATE THAT DASHBOARD FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. BUT TO BE, UM, SUCCESSFUL IN THIS INITIATIVE, WE JUST WANNA SEE HOW MANY OF THESE GOALS FOR THE OVERALL PLAN ARE WE ACHIEVING, UH, AND KEEPING TRACK OF THAT. SO, AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE SOFTWARE THAT WE TALKED, WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE, THE, TODAY, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING. THAT'S THE SOFTWARE THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. AND IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE PLAN. CORRECT. ENTIRE PLAN. YES. YEAH. SO THIS GOAL, MM-HMM. . BUT THIS INITIATIVE IS JUST HELPING KEEP ON TRACK WITH THE PLAN ITSELF. SO MAKING THAT BAKED IN. DANA, DOES THAT SOFTWARE TIE TO THE BUDGET BECAUSE ABOUT BUDGETARY IMPACT AND OUR KPI TALKS ABOUT ACHIEVEMENT, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO, RIGHT. IS THERE SOME WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE BUDGETARY IMPACT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING? OR SOME OF THE SAMPLES, EXAMPLES THAT WE, WE LOOKED AT? UM, WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE IN THE OFFICE, UM, IN THE, IN THE COURTROOM AND JUST WENT ENTHUSIA THE COMPANY THAT WE, WE AGREED WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING. AND SHE'S GIVING ME THE HEADS UP TO, TO SAY YES TO YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING. YEAH, I CAN ANSWER THAT A LITTLE BIT TOO. UM, PART OF THE SOFTWARE, YOU ARE ABLE TO ENTER BUDGETARY INFORMATION AND TIE THAT INTO ALL YOUR PERFORMANCE METRICS. SO YOU CAN DO A COMBINATION OF BOTH. SO THEN SHOULD WE ADD A KPI THAT SOMEHOW GIVES US OUR BUDGETED BUDGETARY IMPACT? ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN DO THAT. IS THAT REASONABLE? YEP. OKAY. YES, WE CAN. GREAT. THE COUNTY COUNTY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE. WE'RE DRILLING DOWN INTO THAT. AND THAT'S THAT NEXT PHASE I TALKED ABOUT. THIS IS CHANGE MANAGEMENT. IT WILL BE COUNTING INDIVIDUALS ON DOING THAT WAS GOOD. I GOT YOU. YOU GOT ME. OKAY. SO THEN WE WOULD INTRODUCE A BUDGETARY KPI FOR THIS IN ADDITION TO JUST THE PERCENTAGE COMPLETION OF THE GOALS. YEP. I WOULD THINK, NOT JUST FOR THIS ONE, BUT FOR ALL OF THEM. AND WE NEED TO KNOW THE BUDGETARY IMPACT. SURE. RIGHT. BUT I THINK THIS IS KIND OF SPEAKING TO ALL OF BUSINESS. CORRECT. THIS IN OUR DASHBOARD. IT SHOULD PICK UP AS WE GO. JUST A LITTLE QUICK. IF YOU'RE USING THE WIRELESS MIKE, THE CLOSER TO YOUR, THE BETTER. BARELY. ALSO FOR THE MIDDLE TASK THAT SAYS FY 26 FULL IMPLEMENTATION. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT. IS THAT FOR THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE DASHBOARDS OR FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF SOFTWARE? UM, IT, IT'S THE SOFTWARE. I MEAN, IT'S BOTH OF THEM, I THINK. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. WE'RE GETTING THE SOFTWARE. ONCE WE APPROVE ALL, WE'LL JUST ADD THAT VERBIAGE THERE. OKAY. [00:30:10] OKAY. GREAT. MOVING ALONG. OPERATING INITIATIVE 1.3 READS, REVIEW AND REFINE THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF COUNTY POSITIONS, INCLUDING THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. AND THIS IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE OVERALL GOAL OF ENHANCING, UH, PROMOTING TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY. SO JUST TO KEEP IN CONTEXT, WE HAVE AS AN INITIAL TASK HERE TO BEGIN TO REVIEW AND VERIFY AND UPDATE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND IDENTIFY THOSE KEY POSITIONS TO THIS GOAL OF PROMOTING TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY, THE PIO BEING ONE OF THESE. UH, AND THEN THE KPI TO MEASURE THE RESULTS OF THIS INITIATIVE AND KEEP IT ON TRACK. WE SAID TO TRACK WHAT PERCENTAGE OF JOB DESCRIPTIONS ARE REVIEWED AND REFINED IN THEIR INTENDED TIME HORIZON. SO HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT DOING THAT IS, UH, THAT LAYER DOWN THAT WE WOULD DEFINE THE PROJECT TEAM WILL WORK ON, BUT JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE STAYING ON TRACK WITH THIS INITIATIVE. ARE WE MEETING A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS REVIEWED? 'CAUSE THAT CAN BE A LIFT. OKAY. PLEASE. WHAT IS THE INTENT OF THIS? NOT WHAT THE WORDS MEAN. OKAY. WHAT IS THE INTENT OF 1.3? YES. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO WHEN WE DEVELOPED THIS INITIATIVE, THE, UH, WORKSHOP DISCUSSED, THERE ARE KEY, UH, POSITIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT, UH, CAN BE LEVERAGED IN PROMOTING THIS TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY. AND HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT THEIR JOB DESCRIPTIONS CAPTURE THOSE FUNCTIONS? THE REASON I I ASK IS BECAUSE THE KPI PERCENTAGE OF JOB DESCRIPTIONS REVIEWED WOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT EVERY YEAR. SO WHAT WOULD THAT BE MEASURING? WE, WE REVIEW ALL OF OUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS EVERY SINGLE YEAR. IT'S PART OF OUR INTERNAL PROCESSES. DO YOU REVIEW THEM IN TERMS OF THIS PLAN? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. LIKE, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE GOAL OF THIS THING? BECAUSE THE KPI BEING A PRESCRIPTION OF JOB DESCRIPTIONS REVIEWED, IT WOULD JUST SHOW UP AS A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO LIKE, IS THAT THE BEST KPI TO MEASURE THE INTENTS? IT, IT MAY NOT BE, AND WE MAY NOT KNOW THAT UNTIL WE GET TO MORE OF THE CHANGE MANAGEMENT PIECE OF THIS, BUT THIS IS KIND OF GEARED TOWARDS THAT CHANGE MANAGEMENT PIECE. WE NEED TO REVIEW THESE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, EVERY ONE OF THEM LIKE YOU DO NOW. BUT IN TERMS OF THIS PLAN AND WHERE THIS PLAN IS GOING, 'CAUSE AS WE, AS WE IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN, SOME ROLES ARE GONNA CHANGE MM-HMM. THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO ADAPT AND, AND, AND DO DIFFERENT THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PLAN. THAT'S ALL THIS IS SAYING. SO MAYBE IT'S NOT QUITE AS DEFINED AS, UH, AS I'M THINKING YOU WANT IT TO BE. NO, IT, IT, IT, IT ISN'T BECAUSE, UM, I, I GET THAT ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF COUNTY POSITIONS WILL CHANGE AS, AS THE PLANS CHANGE. MM-HMM. . BUT HOW DO YOU IMPLEMENT THAT BASED UPON REVIEWING JOB DESCRIPTIONS? UM, I MEAN, AM I GONNA GO TELL, UH, TERRY THAT HE'S GOTTA CHANGE ALL OF HIS JOB DESCRIPTIONS BECAUSE OF, OF THIS PLAN? OR CAN, CAN I BE THERE WHEN YOU TELL HIM? YEAH. . SO I, I'M JUST ASKING LIKE, I, I DON'T WANT THIS TO JUST BE ON PAPER AND THEN US TO GO, WELL, WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE WE'RE REVIEWING ALL THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND THIS IS, IT'S COMPLETELY BENIGN. LIKE, I, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO RE-LOOK AT WHAT THE INTENT IS AND, AND REDEFINE THIS PARTICULAR TERM. MM-HMM. . I, I JUST DON'T, I MEAN, WE CAN LEAVE IT, IT'S TOTALLY FINE, BUT IT'S GONNA SHOW THAT IT'S DONE. I MEAN, EVERY SINGLE YEAR, IF YOU USE THAT AS THE METRIC, IT'LL BE DONE. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO JUST DO JOB REVIEWS AND, AND JOB DESCRIPTION REVIEWS. YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE WITH THE TIMES WE'RE TRYING TO YEAH. EVOLVE WITH THE PLAN. MM-HMM. . SO, I MEAN, IT WOULD ALMOST BE WHEN YOU CIRCLE IT BACK TO TRANS TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY, YOU, YOU THINK THAT THAT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT, THAT THE DEPARTMENTS OR THE POSITIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT IN TRANSPARENCY. NO, MY POINT IS, THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS WILL BE DONE EVERY YEAR. THE KPI SAYS REVIEW JOB DESCRIPTIONS. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S PART OF THE STANDARD REVIEW PROCESS. SO IF, IF, IF SOMEONE SITS IN THEIR REVIEW, IF TECHNICALLY BY OUR COUNTY POLICIES, THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION HAS BEEN REVIEWED, I CAN'T SAY THAT IT WAS, I'M NOT, I'M NOT IN, UM, KEN NICOLE PEPPER'S JOB REVIEWS, BUT THE PIECE OF PAPER SAYS IT WAS DONE. I GET IT. SURE. I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT [00:35:01] JOB DESCRIPTIONS WHEN THEY DO JOB PERFORMANCE REVIEWS. I, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, I'M JUST SAYING I THINK WE, WE NEED TO MORE POINTED ON THE METRICS. YEAH. WELL, UH, ONE THING YOU MIGHT WANNA THINK ABOUT, AND I, I, I GET YOUR POINT. IT'S A GOOD POINT. I DO. UM, IF YOU, IF THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE WORKING ON THIS, REMEMBER HOW THIS ALL STARTED AGAIN, THE WHOLE POINT IS TO GET OUT TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN. AND WE THOUGHT, WELL GEE, UH, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER POSITION IS A GREAT WAY TO DO THIS. SO LET'S REVIEW AND REFINE WHAT HE DOES AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND THEN SOMEONE MADE THE COMMENT, WELL, THERE COULD BE OTHER PEOPLE TOO. SO WE SAID, LET'S EXPAND THAT. SO, BUT THE GOAL OF THIS WAS NOT JUST TO CHECK TO EVERY YEAR, CHECK A BOX AND SAY, WE LOOKED AT THE JOB DESCRIPTION. SO MAYBE WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS IMPLEMENT SOMETHING TO SEE DID WE ACTUALLY MAKE CHANGES IN THAT JOB DESCRIPTION DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS? YEAH. THAT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER KP BECAUSE AGAIN, AND, AND WE, IT SAYS ALL BUT INCLUDING THE PIO, BUT REALLY WE STARTED WITH THE PIO AND EXPANDED BECAUSE THE PIO O IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT POSITION TO THIS IF WE'RE GONNA GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND IDENTIFIED POSITIONS. YEAH. ONCE YOU IDENTIFY A POSITION, YOU'RE JUST GONNA PUT HIM ON A LIST. GO, WELL, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE PIO O WELL, HE'S GONNA GET A JOB REVIEW EVERY YEAR AND HIS JOB DESCRIPTION WILL BE REVIEWED EVERY YEAR. IT WAS THIS YEAR. RIGHT. BUT, BUT I GET YOUR POINT IS ARE WE MAKING, I THINK THAT'S MORE TO, ARE WE DOING SOMETHING TO IMPLEMENT IT TO MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THAT, BUT THAT LADY BACK THERE DOES. YEAH. SHE'S RAISED HER HAND. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO SAY. YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF. YOU ARE, COME, COME IN AND TELL US WHO YOU ARE. CARISSA . CARISSA HAUSER WITH ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT. SO I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT IS GONNA CHANGE A LOT OF JOB DESCRIPTIONS OR DEPARTMENTS. IS IT BETTER TO JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY WHICH DEPARTMENTS COULD BE AFFECTED FIRST, OR DIG INTO THAT AND THEN START TALKING ABOUT THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE. 'CAUSE IT COULD CHANGE THE WAY WE RUN OUR DEPARTMENTS AS WELL. I'M KIND OF THINKING, I'M KIND OF, I'M KIND OF THINKING THAT THIS, SORRY. THAT IT'S, IT'S EVERY POSITION INITIALLY. NOW WE MAY, WE MAY MODIFY THAT AFTER A YEAR OR TWO. BUT I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. TO CLAIRE'S POINT, I THINK IT IS EVERY POSITION RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT JOHN, YOU'RE ONTO SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTING IT AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS AS OPPOSED TO THE, THE KPI WE HAVE ON HERE. YEAH. I DO THINK, I THINK THEY'RE RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE CAN GIVE US SOME DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE AS ONE RECOMMENDATION WE HAVE FROM INVISIO IS PERCENTAGE OF JOB DESCRIPTIONS ADJUSTED TO INCLUDE THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES. SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER. YEAH. SO INITIALLY PART OF THIS KPI WAS, UM, KIND OF WHEN YOU'RE STARTING A NEW STRATEGIC PLAN AS WE ARE IN THIS CASE, IS, ALTHOUGH THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS ARE THERE, WE USE THEM FOR OUR PERFORMANCE REVIEWS. BUT WE WANTED TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT EVERY JOB WITHIN YOUR COUNTY HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND MAKE SURE THAT IT STILL ALIGNS WITH THE ACTUAL OPERATIONS OF WHAT YOUR COUNTY IS STILL DOING. SO THAT WAS THE, THE INTENT OF THIS KPI. BUT WE'RE, WE DEFINITELY CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO HAVE THE COLLABORATIVE DISCUSSION AND WE CAN ADD ANY AS WELL. YEAH. I THINK THAT PUTS IT MORE ACTIONABLE AND MORE TO THE INTENT. YEAH. YOU'LL GET MORE OUT. OKAY. . OKAY. THANK YOU. IF EVERYONE'S OKAY WITH CHANGING EXISTING KPI TO ALIGN CLOSER WITH, UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS RECOMMENDED, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. 1.4 IS TO CREATE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADVISORY COUNCIL. I GO, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, SO ON THESE ONES, LIKE ON, I THINK ON THREE, EVERY ONE OF THESE [00:40:01] NOW WE'VE SAID, HEY, WE SHOULD ADD A KPI OR SOMETHING. SO YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK TO US WITH THAT STUFF? YES. IN THE NEXT DRAFT IS HOW IT WORKS. YES. EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE COLLECTING TODAY, WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE'LL BE PUTTING IN PART OF YOUR DRAFT STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH WILL BE SHARED WITH YOU ALL FOR REVIEW BEFORE WE PRODUCE A FINAL VERSION. ALRIGHT, THANKS. WE'RE GONNA END THE QUESTION. KAYLA WAS, WHEN ARE WE END IN THE, THE DRAFT AND IT'S GOING TO BE, AND SOMETIME AT THE END OF THIS MONTH? IS THAT CORRECT? OUR 1ST OF DECEMBER. I CAN'T SAY IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT IS ON OUR FINAL SLIDE. WHEN WE GET TO THE END OF THIS WORKSHOP, WE HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE. WE'RE AIMING TO GET IT TO YOU. EVERYBODY'S GONNA GO LOOK AT, OKAY. HEY, DANA, GOT A QUICK PROCEDURAL QUESTION. ARE WE KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THE COMMENTS? YES. YES. BUT I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE THE RUNNING COMMENTS FROM LAST POSITION HERE. SAY THAT AGAIN. IT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE STARTING OVER EVERY MEETING ON THE COMMENTS. LET'S JUST START OVER AGAIN. RIGHT. SO A LOT WE'LL BE DEAD. RIGHT? I DON'T SEE LAST MEETINGS, COMMENTS ON HERE. LAST MEETING ON KPIS, IT WAS, WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS MANY TIMES. OH, YOU MEAN THE ONE THAT THIS THAT WE TERM? YEAH, WE HAVE, WE'VE HAD MANY CARDS ON KPIS AND LAUREN OUT WHERE THE, WE HAVE THEM. WE CAN SEND THEM TO YOU. UM, MARK SENT THEM TO BAKER KELLY. OKAY. BUT WE CAN, NO, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE NOT. SO, BAKER KELLY RECEIVED ONE I THINK, I THINK GOING FORWARD. SURE. SO YOU WANT WE REPEAT CONVERSATIONS FIVE TIMES? IS WE HAVE YOU PUT ALL THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS UP THERE. OKAY. SOMEHOW FIGURE THAT OUT ON HOW TO DO THAT. 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME QUESTION, SAME QUESTION OVER AND OVER IN THE SAME DEBATE. AND THIS IS, THAT'S NOT THE MOST PRODUCTIVE USE OF TIME TODAY. SO IF WE COULD JUST GO FORWARD WITH THAT, THEN THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK OKAY. AND I, AND I DO SUPPORT THAT. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS, WE WERE TRYING TO DO THIS FOR THE VOTE, THE, THE COURT SO THAT WE CAN BE READY TO MAKE A VOTE ON THIS AS WELL. OKAY. BUT I APPRECIATE THAT. GO AHEAD. OPERATING INITIATIVE, 1.4 READS TO CREATE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADVISORY COUNCIL. THE INITIAL TASKS WOULD BE TO DEFINE THE MEMBERSHIP AND THE SCOPE OF THIS COUNCIL AND TO, UH, ENSURE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF ROCKWALL, UM, AND THE COUNTY. AND ITS VARIOUS, UM, STAKEHOLDERS AND GROUPS COHORTS. THE KPIS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS INITIATIVE ARE TO MEASURE A PERCENTAGE OF THE, UM, ANNOUNCED OPEN MEETINGS WITH PUBLISHED MINUTES, AND THEN THE PERCENTAGE OF RECOMMENDATIONS ADOPTED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT THAT STEM FROM THE COUNCIL ITSELF. SO REALLY JUST TRACKING THE, UM, PRODUCTIVITY AND THOSE OUTCOMES FROM THAT COUNCIL, FROM THAT NEW BODY, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE, UM, BEING KEPT TRACK OF TO SHOW THAT THIS IS A BODY THAT'S ADDING VALUE TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE PLAN. WHAT SUGGESTIONS DO YOU ALL HAVE FOR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS FOR THIS TYPE OF INITIATIVE? SO, I, I HAVE A QUESTION. OH, WOODY, UM, SORRY. UM, SO THE FIRST ONE, THE PERCENT OF ANNOUNCED OPEN MEETINGS WITH PUBLISHED MINUTES, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS. PERCENT OF ANNOUNCED OPEN MEETINGS PERCENTAGE. I, I GUESS THE PERCENT CONFUSES ME. I I CAN SAY NUMBER OF OPEN MEETINGS WITH, WITH PUBLISHED MINUTES, BUT PERCENTAGE. PERCENTAGE VERSUS VERSUS WHAT? YEAH. SO IN BEST PRACTICES FOR KPIS, NUMBERS ARE TYPICALLY NOT PREFERRED BECAUSE A NUMBER DOESN'T REALLY TELL YOU IF IT'S GOOD OR IF IT'S BAD. SO IT'S EASIER TO DO WHAT PERCENTAGE, IF WE DID A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR OPEN ME MEETINGS WERE PUBLISHED TO YOUR PUBLIC, THAT WOULD SHOW A PERCENTAGE VERSUS IF YOU DID ONE, ONE OPEN MEETING, NUM YOUR NUMBER WAS ONE. THAT MIGHT BE GOOD IN SOME EYES, BUT IT TECHNICALLY SHOULD BE, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE 10. SO THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO PUT IT IN A PERCENTAGE FORMAT. OKAY. SO IT, THE, THE PERCENTAGE IS SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO PUBLISHING THE MINUTES OF THE CORRECT. AND SO PART OF TRANSPARENCY WOULD BE, DID WE GET THIS OUT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME FOR THE MEETINGS THAT YOU HELD? OKAY. MY QUESTION IS TO DANIEL, ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM HERE, WILL THAT BE LIKE WE HAVE NOW WHEN IT COMES TO PROJECTS, WE'LL SIGN A INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER SAY TO THIS, THAT'S WHO THEY WILL REPORT TO. SO WE DON'T HAVE THEM REPORTING TO FIVE, FOUR COMMISSIONS AND A JUDGE. WE DIDN'T GET DOWN TO THAT LEVEL OF TASK. I'M JUST, JUST, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WE DO 'EM NOW. AND I THINK THAT YOU'LL, YOU'LL FIGURE IT OUT. BUT IF YOU DON'T PICK A POINT OF CONTACT AND HAVE FIVE PEOPLE WORKING ON THE SAME THING. AND I, UM, I MISSED THE LAST MEETING, BUT WHAT EXACTLY WOULD A COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADVISORY COUNCIL ADVISE [00:45:01] THE COMMISSIONERS TO DO? QUESTION THAT, THAT, SO MY, MY THOUGHTS ARE, AND, AND I ENCOURAGE, UH, CITIZENS COMMITTEES AND GROUPS AND, AND FOR WHATEVER SPECIFIC REASON WE HAVE, IF IT'S TRANSPORTATION FINE, IF IT'S, IF IT'S CRIME, IF IT'S SCHOOLS, I MEAN, IF YOU GO ANYWHERE, THIS KIND OF COMBINES IT INTO AN ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT THE WAY IT WOULD WORK IN MY MIND IS THEY CAN THEN HAVE SUB COUNCILS THAT GO OUT AND, AND BRING INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. SO I GUESS THE, THE ANSWER WOULD BE ANYTHING, ANY, ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING REGARDING QUALITY OF LIFE IN ROCKWELL COUNTY. UH, SO, AND I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT, 'CAUSE YOU, YOU HEAR ABOUT THESE COMMISSIONS IN, IN OTHER LARGER URBAN JURISDICTIONS THAT MAYBE WE WANNA HAVE, MAYBE WE DON'T. UH, BUT I'M SPECIFICALLY THINKING ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT. MM-HMM. , UM, IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE HEAD WITH THIS OR, UH, BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO, SO NOT, NOT SPECIFICALLY. UH, I HADN'T, I HADN'T THOUGHT OF THAT TO, TO BE HONEST. BUT I MEAN, IF IT WE WENT THAT WAY, I WOULD, I, I WOULDN'T WANT A COMMISSION. AND THE COUNTY IS OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE'RE STRUCTURED DIFFERENT FROM CITIES. THERE'S VERY FEW ACTUAL COMMITTEES THAT WE CAN FORM AND GIVE ANY AUTHORITY TO. THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, VERY, VERY, VERY FEW. SO THEY WOULD BE ADVISORY ONLY. SO THERE'S, THERE'S VERY FEW SCENARIOS WHERE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PUBLIC WOULD COME IN AND HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE COUNCIL BEFORE THEY CAN GET YEAH. TO, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT. SO AGAIN, ADVISORY, I, I WOULD ACCEPT INPUT IN, IN MY MIND, THIS IS HOW WE GET OUT TO THE PEOPLE AND THEY BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE BRINGS IT TO THE COURT. IT'S JUST AN OUTREACH PROGRAM. AND THAT MAKES SENSE. I JUST, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE HAVE AN ENTIRE KPI CENTERED AROUND COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO. SO THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S MY POINT. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE UNDER, UH, TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE ALL, ALL THEIR, UM, ALL THEIR TRACKING HERE IS A PERCENTAGE OF PUBLISHED MINUTES AND THE PERCENTAGE OF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE TOP ADOPTED BY COMMISSIONER COURT. SO IT REALLY TALKS TO, ARE YOU OPEN AND ARE YOU EFFECTIVE? UM, ALL GOOD. ALL GOOD. SO YEAH, I WOULD ALSO ADD TO THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE DYNAMIC AND CHANGING THE FACT THAT WE'RE STILL, AS YOUR TASK IS TO DEFINE WHAT THIS GROUP'S GOING TO DO. THESE KPIS MIGHT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED ONCE THAT'S BEEN PUT FORWARD. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE INITIATIVE? 1.4 AND ITS, UH, KPI, HOW TO TRACK AND MEASURE THIS ONE. OKAY. GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO INITIATIVE 1.5. CREATING AN INTERNAL COUNTY FUTURES GROUP FOCUSED ON TRENDS IN INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY FOR POTENTIAL ADOPTION. AND, UM, THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR FOR THIS RELIES ON WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. AGAIN, MEASURING THE EFFICACY OF THIS NEW GROUP. UM, SOME INITIAL TASKS WOULD JUST INCLUDE ESTABLISHING THE GROUP WITH MORE DETAIL, UM, IDENTIFYING POTENTIAL TECHNOLOGIES AND INNOVATIONS THAT THEY CAN LOOK INTO IN MORE DETAIL. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS REGARDING THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR? MS. COUNTY, YOUR BREAKOUT. WHO'S THE, UH, DANA, WHO, WHO DO YOU IMAGINE BEING THE OUTSIDE ADVISORY SUPPORT FOR, UH, INTERNAL COUNTY FUTURES GROUP? THIS WAS, THIS WAS BROKEN OUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT. I THINK THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE APPOINTMENTS FROM EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE. OKAY. UM, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CITIZENS, LIKE, LIKE IT COULD, IT COULD BE CITIZENS, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE EMPLOYEES AS WELL. NO, NO. IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS LIKE A CONSULTANT. LIKE NO, NO, NO. THESE, YEAH. NO, THIS ONE IS INTERNAL. SO THIS IS MADE UP OF THIS, THE INTERNAL, THIS IS THE INTERNAL. SO THIS IS MADE UP OF PEOPLE FROM DEPARTMENTS. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADVISORY GROUP. THAT'S THE OUTSIDE ADVISORY GROUP. THIS IS INSIDE, THIS IS JUST PEOPLE WITHIN DEPARTMENTS LOOKING FOR WAYS, UH, TO HELP US RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY AND TO BE MORE, UH, TO BETTER SERVE OUR CUSTOMERS. THE OUTSIDE ADVISORY SUPPORT WOULD BE, AND BOBBY, I DO SEE HERE THAT IT SAYS THAT WE ALSO PUT DOWN TO INCLUDE OUTSIDE ADVISORY SUPPORT UNDER THIS TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE, WE MARKED THAT OUT. THAT, THAT'S, I'M LOOKING, I [00:50:01] DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A NECESSARY PART OKAY. OF THIS. MM-HMM. I THINK, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ASSIGNED TO ONE COMMISSIONER OKAY. UM, TO REPORT TO. AND I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO INVOLVE OUTSIDE PENCIL. YEAH. WE CAN REMOVE THAT LANGUAGE TOO FROM THE INITIAL TASKS IF YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. OKAY, GREAT. IT'S, WELL, BUT IT COULD BE A SITUATION WE DO, RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, IT, IT COULD, WE COULD HAVE TO REACH OUT FOR OUTSIDE ADVICE, BUT WE'RE NOT PREVENTING IT. THAT'S JUST NOT A BE A COMMON PRACTICE OF THIS GROUP. WE'RE NOT CREATING THIS GROUP TO GO SEEK OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO MAYBE INCLUDE THEM IF NECESSARY. SURE. AS NEEDED. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. SO A COMMENT FROM THE, UM, PARTICIPANTS WITHIN THE AUDIENCE HERE. UM, APOLOGIES. I DIDN'T SEE WHO HANDED ME DIRECTLY. THANK YOU. UH, REGARDING 1.5, FIRST IS JUST, UM, QUESTION AROUND REFERENCE TO BOTH 1.4. YEP. FIVE. YEAH. SO LEMME START WITH 1.5 HERE, IS JUST UNDERSTANDING WHY WE ARE WAITING AT FIVE YEARS FOR THIS TIME HORIZON. AND I BELIEVE THIS GETS TO AN EARLIER QUESTION AS WELL. UM, HOW COMFORTABLE DO WE ALL FEEL ABOUT THIS FUTURES GROUP INITIATIVE FALLING AT THE TIME HORIZON OF FIVE TO 15 YEARS, AND STARTING TO DEFINE IT WITHIN THIS PER ZERO TO FIVE YEARS, BUT HAVING IT BE UP AND RUNNING AFTER FIVE YEARS IS, UH, THE QUESTION IS, UH, ARE WE COMFORTABLE WAITING FIVE YEARS TO START THIS? OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN START SOONER UPDATING THIS TIMELINE? ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? I, I DON'T SEE WHEN WE CAN'T DO IT SOONER. OKAY. I MEAN, QUITE HONESTLY, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING IT. IT'S JUST DISJOINTED NOW AND, AND DOESN'T HAVE A COMMITTEE WHERE WE'RE GOING INTO EACH DEPARTMENT AND SEEKING EFFICIENCIES NOW. SO, AND MOST OF THAT LEADS US BACK TO TECHNOLOGY. SO I, I WOULD SAY WE COULD MAKE THAT MORE AMBITIOUS. OKAY. I HAD THE SAME QUESTION FOR 1.4. OKAY. I FEEL LIKE BOTH OF THEM ARE WORTH CONSIDER 1.4 READS, CREATE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADVISORY COUNCIL. NO, I, I, I AGREE. I COULD HAVE THAT COMMITTEE SEATED BEFORE WE LEAVE TODAY. OKAY. SO GREAT. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. ALL AND IS EVERYONE ELSE IN AGREEMENT AS WELL THAT THE, UH, MOVING THIS TIMELINE AS WELL? OKAY. SO WE'LL DO THAT. WE'LL UPDATE IN THE NEXT ITERATION TO HAVE THESE BOTH IN THEN EARLIER TIME HORIZON. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . MOVING FORWARD TO 1.6. THIS OPERATING INITIATIVE IS THE LAST FOR THIS GOAL. AND IT READS TO FIND WAYS TO BETTER INTER INTEGRATE AND EXPAND THE ROLES OF EXISTING PUBLIC COMMITTEES. SO THIS IS PUBLIC FACING COMMITTEES. SOME OF THESE TASKS WOULD BE REVIEWING THE EXISTING COMMITTEES AND SCOPE AS A WHOLE, AND THEN IDENTIFYING ANY UNFULFILLED NEEDS FOR ADDITIONAL COMMITTEES. THE KPI READS, UH, MEASURING A PERCENTAGE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ADOPTED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS. UM, WITH REGARD TO, UH, THESE EXPANDING THE ROLES FOR EXISTING PUBLIC COMMITTEES, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ON THIS KPI OR THE INITIATIVE? I THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO THE . I HAVE A, I GUESS A THOUGHT THAT WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT KPIS, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO SOMEHOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE INITIAL TASKS, IT'S REVIEW EXISTING COMMITTEES OF SCOPE YOU AND IDENTIFY UNFULFILLED NEEDS. IS THERE SOME BENEFIT TO ACTUALLY IDENTIFYING WHO THOSE COMMITTEES WILL BE AND WHAT THEIR ROLES WILL BE? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU COULD POINT TO AND JUDGE NEW COULD PROBABLY FINISH THIS THIS AFTERNOON. UM, BUT YOU COULD POINT TO A NUMBER OF, UH, COMP GROUPS IN THE COM IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE ACTIVE. MM-HMM. . BUT ARE THEY REALLY PART OF THIS PROCESS? SO MAYBE IDENTIFYING IT. OKAY. SO IS IT, DO YOU HAVE A POTENTIAL INITIAL TASK FOR US TO ADD OR? UM, YEAH, I WOULD SAY FOR KPI JUST, UH, IDENTIFY, UM, COMMITTEES OR I DON'T LIKE THE TERM COMMITTEES. IT'S BAD BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, UH, OUTSIDE ENTITIES, NON-GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES I THINK THAT [00:55:01] CAN, UH, PROVIDE SUPPORT AND, AND SPECIFY WHAT THEIR ROLES ARE. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP. AND THIS WOULD BE AN INITIAL TASK THAT WE WOULD ADD? YES. UH, SIMILAR TO THESE, THOSE EXISTING UNFULFILLED NEEDS FOR THOSE COMMITTEES. YES. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING ADDING THAT AS AN INITIAL TASK AS OPPOSED TO A KI THINK IT'S TO A KPI THAT'S THAT SAME KKPI. UM, LAUREN, I THINK TO APPLY, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE YOURS, I THINK MORE OF AN INITIAL TASK. YEAH. OH, I WAS THINKING IT WAS A KPI. WELL, OKAY, LET'S USE, LET'S USE THE OPEN SPACE ALLIANCE AS AN EXAMPLE. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT IS ALREADY AN EXISTING ONE. RIGHT. AND, AND SO, AND, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO BETTER INTEGRATE AND EXPAND THE ROLE OF THOSE YEP. OPEN SPACE. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INCLUDING THOSE, THOSE KIND OF ENTITIES OR GROUPS THAT EITHER ALREADY EXIST OR YEP. RIGHT. SO FAR WE AGREE THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A TASK WE NEED. I I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. BUT THEN TO MEASURE OUR SUCCESS. OKAY. YOU SAY, I THINK AS A, IN PERFORMANCE INDICATOR, YOU SAY, OKAY, THIS YEAR WE IDENTIFIED TWO AND GAVE THEM RESPONSIBILITIES OR JOB FUNCTIONS OR WE ASKED THEM TO DO THINGS FOR US. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S LIKE THIS MORNING YOU GUYS, UH, IN THAT THE, THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT, LIKE OPEN SPACE, A GOOD EXAMPLE AGAIN YEAH. WAS GET THEIR REVIEW OF OPEN SPACE PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENTS. MM-HMM. . SO THERE YOU'VE KIND OF IDENTIFIED, WELL OPEN SPACE IS ONE. RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS COMMITTEE AND TOLD THEM WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, THE COUNTY, WHAT THEIR INPUT IS. AND WE MIGHT DO THE SAME THING FOR PICK SOMETHING HELPING HANDS AND THEIR ADVICE ON OUR PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE COUNTY. RIGHT. AGAIN, SO I THINK IF YOU, IT'S THE TASK IS TO IDENTIFY THEM. THE KPI IS, WE DID OUR JOB AND IDENTIFIED THEM AND GAVE THEM ROLES. OKAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE OR AM I MISSING THE POINT? IT DOES. AND I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE EXISTING KPI MAY CAPTURE THE, A WAY TO MEASURE THAT. SO SAY WE, UM, GO AHEAD AND REVIEW THOSE UNFULFILLED NEEDS AND THOSE OUTSIDE FUNCTIONS THAT CAN BE PROVIDED. THE KPI IS, WELL, WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BEING ADOPTED? WHAT PERCENTAGE IF, UM, WELL I KEEP THAT ONE TOO. OKAY. WHAT IF YOU SAID, WHAT IF YOU SAID PERCENTAGE OF COMMITTEES IDENTIFIED HAVE BEEN ENGAGED GIVEN A ROLE, SOMETHING TO THAT. I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, ARE WE ACTUALLY USING THESE? SO, SO WE COULD RECOMMEND PERCENTAGE INCREASE OF ENGAGEMENT BY GROUPS IDENTIFIED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE'LL, WE'LL DO SOME WORDS SMITH ON IT FOR YOU. I WOULDN'T USE PERCENTAGE, BUT I WOULD JUST USE, ARE WE IDENTIFYING AND GIVING THEM RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. THAT'S THE INITIAL TASK. NOW HAVE WE ACHIEVED IT? CORRECT. WELL, AND I MAY BE RESTATING WHAT YOU JUST SAID, LAUREN, BUT, SO ARE Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT COUNTY COMMITTEES? ARE YOU, YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HELPING HANDS? SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY OVERSEEING A PUBLIC NONPROFIT AND DETERMINING IF THEY'RE EFFECTIVE OR ENGAGED, NOT OVERSEEING IT AT ALL. NOT BUT, BUT ASKING, LOOK AT IT, ASKING FOR INPUT SO WE CAN BETTER MAKE DECISIONS, MAYBE COLLABORATING OR SOME BETTER DECISION COLLABORATING. YEAH. WORKING WITH THEM AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, LIKE CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER, WHAT'S THE, TELL US THE SCOPE OF THE PROBLEM SO WE CAN UNDER IDENTIFY HOW TO FUND IT BETTER. OKAY. IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE INVOLVED. SO IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE TO, TO DEAL WITH FUNDING DECISIONS, OBVIOUSLY. WELL, I GUESS EVENTUALLY, BUT I WOULDN'T MEAN IT JUST FOR THAT. I MEAN JUST HOW ARE, THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS TO SAY, FIND WAYS TO BETTER INTEGRATE EXISTING PUBLIC COMMITTEES. SO WE LOOK AT THOSE EXISTING PUBLIC COMMITTEES, WE FIND WAYS TO INTEGRATE 'EM. AND ALL I'M SAYING IS A KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR. HAVE WE INTEGRATED THEM AND ARE WE GIVING THEM JOBS AND NOT JOBS, BUT ARE WE ASKING FOR THEIR ADVICE OR INPUT AND SO THAT WE CAN BETTER FUNCTION AS A COMMISSIONER OF COURSE WITH YOU. SO I THINK WE'RE MIXING TWO THINGS TOGETHER. SO THE NONPROFITS OKAY. FILL, FULFILL A NEED IN OUR COMMITTEE. RIGHT. AND EACH OF THE COMMUNITIES HAVE THE CHOICE TO FUND THEM OR NOT. RIGHT? WE ALL LEVEL C EXAMPLE THAT WE CITY DECISION BASED UPON THE RULE, THE WILL THE COUNCIL AND BE FUND THEM OR NOT. RIGHT? BUT CSC, FOR EXAMPLE, IS STATE MANDATED BY STATE LAW. SO IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. SIMILAR PURPOSE, WE COULD SAY, HEY, TO FULFILL THE STATE LAW, WE NEED TO HAVE X NUMBER OF CASES, X NUMBER OF UNIQUE CLIENTS. WE NEED X NUMBER OF FUNDING TO FULFILL THAT MISSION. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I GET IT. BUT, BUT ALL OF THEM, ALL THE NONPROFITS HAVE BOARD DIRECTORS. THEY GOT NATIONAL ORGANIZATION [01:00:01] REPORT BACK. 'CAUSE THEY HAVE BYLAWS, THEY HAVE CHARTERS. SO WHAT IT'S NOT THE CORE SAYING OR I'M SAYING IS YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. IT'S UNDERSTANDING THEIR ROLE, THEIR MISSION OF THE NONPROFIT AND THE COMMUNITY AND WHETHER YOU WANT THE FUND OR NOT, THAT IT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH. YEAH. I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT MY QUESTION IS, AND, AND IT TRULY IS A QUESTION. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY AS A COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WE WANT OR Y'ALL WANT TO BE INFORMED AND ENGAGED AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENT NONPROFITS DO. I MEAN, WE DO THAT ACTUALLY WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND SAY, TELL US EXACTLY WHAT ALL OF YOU DO SO THAT NOT ONLY CAN WE BETTER COLLABORATE WITH YOU, BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY BETTER COLLABORATE WITH EACH OTHER. BUT I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE TREADING DOWN A LITTLE BIT OF A INTERESTING ROAD IF YOU ARE BRINGING THEM IN SO THAT THEY CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY DO. SO THAT YOU CAN SAY, WELL, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ENGAGED ENOUGH IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT, ABSOLUTELY NOT, THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT. I DON'T WANNA OVERSEE ANYBODY. BUT IF WE CAN USE THEM AND PROVIDE US HELP AND ASSISTANCE IF THEY ARE INTERESTED, WHY NOT? AND I THINK THAT TO ME, MAYBE I'M MISSING THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS INITIATIVE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, IS TO BRING OUTSIDE ENTITIES IN ORDER TO BETTER ALLOW US TO FULFILL OUR ROLES AS A COUNTY. I HOPE. YES. YEAH. I HOPE. AND ALL I'M SAYING IS PAGE, WELL, LET'S IDENTIFY, ONE OF OUR PERFORMANCE INDICATORS IS LET'S IDENTIFY WHO WE, WHO WE'RE GETTING INVOLVED AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE A, WHAT WE'RE ASKING ADVICE FROM THEM OR INPUT OR WHATEVER. I ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANNA OVERSEE ANYBODY. WE, IT'S NOT OUR ROLE. IT'S NOT OUR JOB. DON'T WANT IT. AND I WOULD SAY WE'RE MEASURING THE COURT'S ENGAGEMENT, THE COUNTY'S ENGAGEMENT WITH THE ENTITIES, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. RIGHT. YEAH. JUST BEFORE WE MOVE A BIT FURTHER HERE, WE HAVE A COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE HERE, WHICH IS JUST STATING THAT THE, THE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS ENTIRE PLAN IS FOCUSED ON COLLABORATION AND PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND THIS INITIATIVE SPECIFICALLY, UH, THEY FEEL THAT THIS HELPS FOSTER THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT COMMENT. OKAY. YEAH. AND I, AND I'LL JUST ADD, I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST ABOUT COMMUNICATION. I THINK IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT, THAT WE AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADEQUATELY COMMUNICATE WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT, OF THAT COLLABORATE TO OPPORTUNITY OR EFFORT WITH. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND WE KNOW THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS KPI, BUT THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AND THEN WELL, WE'LL TRY AND WORDSMITH THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT. WE SIX? YEP. WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD. I BELIEVE MOST OF YOU SHOULD HAVE A PACK IN FRONT OF YOU. WE'D LIKE TO MOVE TO GOAL NUMBER SIX. I KNOW WE'RE SLIGHTLY OUT OF ORDER. UM, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF THOSE AROUND THE TABLE TODAY, THIS WOULD BE ON SLIDE 53 OF YOUR PACKETS IN ITS STRATEGIC GOAL. NUMBER SIX, STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER SIX READS TO EXPAND SUPPORT FOR THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE EMERGENCY, AND PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES. THIS, WE HAVE SIX OPERATING INITIATIVES FOR THIS GOAL, FOR GOAL NUMBER SIX. WE HAVE, UM, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT STRUCTURE FOR THESE KPIS SINCE A LOT OF THE, UH, INITIATIVES ARE BASED ON BEST PRACTICES AND ARE, HAVE BEEN ADOPTED IN MANY OTHER STRATEGIC PLANS. WHAT WE LISTED IS A NUMBER OF POTENTIAL KPIS THAT ARE COMMON FOR THIS TYPE OF INITIATIVE. AND SO LET US KNOW IF ANY RESONATE WITH YOU, UM, OR IF THERE ARE ANY THAT WE FEEL ARE UNNECESSARY. YES, SIR. COULD YOU CHANGE BULLET NUMBER FOUR TO AVERAGE CASE PROCESSING TIME? OKAY. AVERAGE CASE. WHO'S THAT FIRST WITHIN THE SYSTEM? YEAH, THAT'S THE WHOLE SYSTEM. YES. THANK YOU. WE'RE HAPPY TO CHANGE THAT. SO I'LL, I'LL JUST MENTION THAT, AND TERRY AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS OR SHARED, AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF OPERATING INITIATIVE. SIX, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE MEETINGS REGARDING LAW ENFORCEMENT. UM, IN REGARDS TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE OPERATING INITIATIVES. I, I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE, THE KEY COMPONENTS THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED WHERE THEY FIT IN TO THE OPERATING INITIATIVES. BUT I THINK THAT, 'CAUSE THEY'RE SO BROAD, THE OPERATING INITIATIVES [01:05:01] ARE, ARE VERY BROAD. AND THAT'S, THAT'S A PROBABLY A VERY GOOD THING. UM, BUT 6.1 SPECIFICALLY I THINK TALKS ABOUT THIS DETAILED STUDY OF THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES IS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FACILITIES, ADDITIONAL COURTS, ADDITIONAL, UM, EMPLOYEES, UM, BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION GROWTH THAT WE TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH THIS MORNING. AND UNFORTUNATELY THE INCREASE IN CRIME. SO, UM, I THINK THAT RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT IS PROBABLY UNDER 6.3 BECAUSE IT, IT, THERE'S, IT LEADS THROUGH BOTH OF 'EM. UM, BUT, UH, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE IF THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY. AND I'VE MAYOR BILLINGS. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I AM EFFECTIVELY USING YOUR TIME. SO DO Y'ALL WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT KIND OF WHAT ARE THE KEY COMPONENTS OR DO WE JUST WANNA GO AND QUICKLY SUMMARIZE THEM? HOW, HOW IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT? WE'RE HAPPY WITH, UH, WHAT YOU SUGGEST. WELL, I THINK IN TERMS OF 6.1 AND, AND TERRY JUMP IN, IT'S, IT'S REALLY ABOUT WHETHER WE THINK THAT IN, IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO TO THE LEGISLATURE TO REQUEST MORE COURTS. UM, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY, SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS NUMBER OF REPORTED CRIMES, NUMBER OF CASES, NOT CARE PROCESSING TIME, BUT OBVIOUSLY CASE PROCESSING TIME, RECIDIVISM RATES, UM, ALL OF THAT IS KIND OF DEALING WITH INCREASED RESOURCES IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY. WHETHER IT'S PROSECUTORS, JUDGES, LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, THAT SORT OF THING. IN TERMS OF, UH, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ON THE KPIS ARE SPECIFIC DATA POINTS THAT SHOULD BE COLLECTED IN ORDER, NOT ONLY FOR OUR PURPOSES, BUT ALSO WHEN WE'RE GOING TO THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION TO TRY TO GET THOSE NEW COURTS, UM, AND NEW, UH, AND THEN NEW FACILITIES OBVIOUSLY WITH THE COUNTY. SO I THINK THAT I, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY NEW OR ADDITIONAL KPIS UNLESS YOU CAN, HEY, THE FIRST NOTE THERE, SAY LEGISLATORS LEGISLATE JOURNAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE MIGHT BE ONE, IS THAT RIGHT? YOU STATE LEGISLATURE? YES, YES, YES. I, I DIDN'T, I WASN'T KEEPING UP BIG CARDS. OKAY. THERE MIGHT BE ONE OTHER. OKAY. UH, APPOINTMENT, UM, THE ENERGY DEFENSE. SO, OKAY, THE COST OF, UH, INDI INDIGENT DEFENSE AND APPOINTMENT OF LAWYERS AND ATTORNEYS. 'CAUSE THAT COST IS, THAT'S AT THE STATE. SO APPOINTMENT, UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA AFFECT THE COUNTY AND HOW MUCH WE PAY. SO I WOULD SAY COURT APPOINTED, UM, ATTORNEYS. OKAY. UM, I, THAT CAN BE A KPI, BUT QUITE FRANKLY, NONE OF US CAN CONTROL THAT OR, BUT I THINK KNOWING THAT IMPACT IS WHY I'M SAYING THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE INITIATIVE, HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING THROUGH. 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA SHOW WHAT WE HAVE TO SET ASIDE. I THINK THAT'S SHOWING HOW, AND IT'S CAUSED AND IT'S PAID BY THE STATE. YES. KNOWS. NOT, NOT IN EVERY CASE. SOME OF IT IS BY THE COUNTY. UM, BECAUSE OUR ATTORNEY FEES RIGHT NOW IN CLASS CS, WHEN I DO A COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY, THE COUNTY IS PAYING THAT. SO WHEN I DO THAT, THAT'S COMING OUT OF MY BUDGET WHEN I DO A COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY FOR MINORS. SO THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THAT UP AND THEY ARE PUSHING TOWARDS THAT. SO I THINK WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT COURT APPOINTED AND GUARDIAN AD LITEM CASES. GOOD. OKAY. SO JUST SO I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU ARE RECOMMENDING A NEW KPI THAT IS SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO TRACK THE COST OF INDIGENT DEFENSE CASES. IS THAT ACCURATE? YEAH. THE COST THAT THE COUNTY WOULD'VE TO PAY. OKAY. FOR THOSE CASES, JPS CAN TURN NUMBERS IN, BUT I STILL THINK IT NEEDS TO BE TRACKED AS A, AS A KEY PERFORMANCE BECAUSE AS THAT GOES UP, THAT'S FINE BOARDS EVERY WEEK. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT I HAVE TO SPEND THROUGH THE COUNTY AND BUDGET. THAT'S GREAT. LET'S, LET'S TRACK IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. MM-HMM. , I, I DON'T WANNA LEAVE THIS. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO . WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO RELY ON. ALRIGHT. EXCELLENT. SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON 6.1 BEFORE WE MOVE ON AND WE'LL JUST GET THROUGH SIX? YEAH. OKAY. 6.2. UH, CREATING A PLAN TO ADDRESS THE INCREASE IN MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, INCLUDING ENHANCED COLLABORATION WITH VETERANS GROUPS, FIRST RESPONDERS, NONPROFIT, AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL AGENCIES. I THINK THERE'S NOBODY IN THIS ROOM THAT DOESN'T KNOW THAT MENTAL HEALTH IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT AFFECTS CRIMINAL JUSTICE. UM, AND SO WE HAVE TO BE ENGAGED IN THESE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE, UM, MEETINGS IS THAT, UH, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO ENHANCE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO, FOR EVERYBODY, FOR, FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED IT TO GET MENTAL HEALTH, UM, TREATMENT IN ROCKWELL [01:10:01] COUNTY, BUT WE WANNA, WE WANNA LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES TO COLLABORATE WITH PUBLIC, PRIVATE, UM, ORGANIZATIONS TO ENHANCE THAT, UH, OPPOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, WHETHER THOSE ARE HOSPITALS, WHETHER THOSE ARE MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES, WHETHER THOSE ARE CREATING OUR OWN MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR ROCKWELL COUNTY. UM, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT EVERYONE, I THINK AGREES THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT. SO THIS CREATION OF A COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH ADVISORY BOARD, UM, THAT WOULD, PART OF THAT WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS THAT IS IN EVERY COUNTY, UM, PROBABLY IN THE WORLD. UH, BUT IN TERMS OF THE KPIS, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THE FORMAL PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS, WHETHER WE HAVE INTERLOCALS, UM, WITH HOSPITALS AND OTHER MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES OR WHATEVER. UM, THE FACT THAT IF WE COULD HAVE THOSE INTERVENTIONS EARLIER, UM, I THINK THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY LOWER, UH, THE CRIMINAL CASES IN ROCKWELL COUNTY. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO BE LOOKING AT TARGETED PROGRAMS FOR HIGH RISK POPULATIONS, INCLUDING KIDS, UM, AND SOURCES OF FUNDING FROM FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL AND GRANT FUNDING. THERE ARE ENORMOUS AMOUNTS AND POTS OF MONEY THAT ARE POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE. EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO GET THEM THEM, BUT WE NEED TO BE REALLY ENGAGED IN TRYING TO FIND THOSE, THOSE POTS. SORRY, ANY ADDITIONS TO THE KPIS OR CHANGES? DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S NECESSARY TO SAY INCLUDING KIDS? UM, IT'S NOT LISTED. I WANNA JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE SURE. I THINK THAT, UH, I THINK THAT JUVENILES IS, YEAH, JUVENILES IS ONE OF THE HIGH RISK POPULATIONS THAT WE ARE SPECIFICALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, BUT I HATE TO PUT ANY KIND OF LIMITATIONS ON HIGH RISK. OKAY. OKAY. ANYTHING FURTHER? LET'S GO BACK TO SIX ONE. WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT KPI'S. NUMBERS AREN'T NECESSARILY MAYBE A BEST WAY TO RECORD IT. I KNOW PART OF THE TASK IS RECORD THE NUMBERS, BUT I THINK THE KPI SHOULD BE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN RELATION TO POPULATION GROWTH. SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE. WE'RE GONNA GROW, WE'RE GONNA DOUBLE, UH, BY 2050 AND THE NUMBER ARE GONNA GO UP. SO THE KPI, WE WANNA REFLECT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE, DO WE GREAT LAW ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE? ARE WE PREVENTING CRIMES OR IS IT NOT THAT WAY? AND I, AND I, I KNOW THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT, AND I MAY NOT BE EXPLAINING IT QUITE WELL, BUT I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT RATE OF CRIME BASED ON, YOU KNOW, IN RELATION TO OUR POPULATION GROWTH. BUT, BUT ALL THE CRIME CAN BE RELATED TO THE POPULATION GROWTH BECAUSE WE HAVE ABOUT 60, 70% OF PEOPLE IN JAIL ARE FROM ROCKWELL COUNTY. SO WE, THE WOULDN FIT INTO THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF NORTHWELL COUNTY. WELL, I, AND ACTUALLY SHERIFF GARY, YOU MIGHT HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF THIS, BUT I, I WOULD THINK THAT BOTH NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGE MIGHT BE VALUABLE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE NEED NUMBERS IN ORDER TO GO TO A OCA IN ORDER TO GET THOSE ENHANCED FACILITIES. AND, AND WHEN YOU THROW THOSE NUMBERS UP ON DASHBOARD 10, 15 YEARS FROM NOW IN RELATION TO TODAY, I THINK YOU NEED THAT, THAT RATIO LIKE, YOU KNOW, SAYING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF, IF IN 2017 WE 75,000 POPULATION AND THE CRIME PER THOUSAND IS TAX, NOW WE'RE ONE 50, THE CRIME PER POPULATION IS, YEAH. I WOULD JUST MENTION, OH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I WOULD JUST MENTION THOUGH THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SEVERE HAS A GOOD POINT. YOU ALL OF US KNOW THAT, UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO POPULATION, IT'S ALSO RELATED TO OR SANDWICHED BETWEEN THREE COUNTIES THAT HAVE A MORE VIOLENT RIGHT. BUT THE MORE DENSE YOU BECOME, YOU'RE GONNA, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE HOUSING MORE SO THAT NUMBER PER POPULATION STATUS IS GONNA GO UP. RIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK BOTH NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGES SAY IN RELATION TO THIS ONE, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE THAT'S AN EXCEPTION. UM, A LOT OF THE P POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, DATA IS VERY STANDARDIZED. AND SO IT WOULD LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THERE IS, AS THE DA SAID, A MIXTURE OF, UM, NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGES, AVERAGES. IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF THE, UM, DATA THAT'S TRACKED FOR LIKE A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, ONE OTHER KPI THAT WE MIGHT USE. AND THIS WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DA'S OFFICE, WAS JUST, IS JUST CASELOAD HOW MANY CASES THAT, BECAUSE WHEN YOU OBVIOUSLY INCREASE THOSE NUMBER OF CASES, THEN EVERY PROSECUTOR HAS THIS INCREASED DOUBLE THE, THE CASELOAD THAT, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO ADD JUST SPECIFIC TO PROSECUTORS. THAT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU GET MORE PROSECUTORS. I'M ALWAYS WORKING IT, MAN. ALRIGHT. YOU GOT NUMBER OF CASES AND YOU GOT CALLS [01:15:01] PER CASE. SO THEN IT JUST IN THE, I THINK IT MIGHT BE WITHIN THOSE NUMBERS. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON SIX ONE? ANYTHING ELSE ON SIX 16? YES. THE SECOND KPI SIX TWO IS THAT IT SAYS PERCENTAGE OF INTERVENTIONS, FORMAL CASES, AND POST TREATMENT SUPPORT. IS THAT PERCENTAGE INCREASE LIKE THE OTHERS? YEAH, I STILL THINK, I MEAN, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE PERCENTAGE. WHEN I GIVE A SPEECH TO THE COMMUNITY, I USE BOTH NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGE. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO KNOW HOW MUCH VIOLENT CRIME, JUVENILE CRIME, MENTAL HEALTH HAS, WHAT THE PERCENTAGE INCREASES. RIGHT. BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF, YOU KNOW, FOR GETTING THOSE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, THE NUMBERS ARE SO IMPORTANT. SO I'M, I WOULD DEFER TO Y'ALL TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT BOTH, WE WOULD BE COLLECTING THEM AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S EASY TO HAVE BOTH NUMBERS. OH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I JUST, IT JUST SAYS PERCENTAGE OF IT DOESN'T SAY PERCENTAGE INCREASE. SO I WANTED TO, TO, UH, CLARIFY THAT. SO MAYBE THE, MAYBE THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO HAVE WITHIN THESE KPIS NUMBER AND PERCENTAGE INCREASE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, THE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, THAT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO JAIL FACILITIES AS WELL. UM, SIX POINT, WHICH EVERYONE KNOWS THE JAIL IS THE LARGEST MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY IN THE COUNTY. UM, 6.3 ASSESSING ON A REOCCURRING BASIS IN THE STATE OF ROCKWELL COUNTY. CAN I STOP YOU JUST FOR ONE SECOND? WE HAD A COMMENT THAT CAME UP, I BELIEVE FOR 6.2, UM, SIX TWO. THE QUESTION IS, ARE THE TARGETED PROGRAMS PREVENTION PROGRAMS IN THIS GROUP, WE DISCUSS PREVENTION REQUIRING LESS RESOURCES THAN INTERVENTION. DID I CAPTURE THAT CORRECTLY? I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN. DID I CAPTURE, DID I CAPTURE YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY? IF I'LL REPEAT IT AGAIN. UM, ARE THE TARGETED PROGRAMS, PREVENTION PROGRAMS IN THIS GROUP WE DISCUSSED PREVENTION REQUIRING LESS RESOURCES THAN INTERVENTION? I WOULD AGREE WITH THE SECOND PART OF THAT STATEMENT. UM, I THINK THAT BOTH THE TARGETED PROGRAMS WOULD BE PREVENTION PROGRAMS AS WELL AS TARGETED TO THOSE WHO HAVE AL ALREADY COMMITTED THE, THE OFFENSE OR COMMITTED WHATEVER IS ACTIONABLE AGAINST THEM. SO I'M NOT SURE I WOULD LIMIT IT TO PREVENTION PROGRAMS, BUT I'M EVERYBODY ELSE. OKAY. UM, 6.3, IF IT'S, UH, WE'RE COMFORTABLE MOVING 6.3, UM, ASSESSING THE STATE OF THE ROCKWELL COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ACHIEVE BETTER CROSS-AGENCY OR OPERATIONAL CAPABILITIES AND EFFICIENCIES, MEETING, TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT NEEDS. SO I WASN'T SURE IF MAYBE THIS IS WHERE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION WOULD BE, UM, WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT OR WHETHER IT IS IN 6.1. UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ASSESS ON A REOCCURRING BASIS BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE THINGS, AGAIN, THAT'S A GIANT ISSUE AFFECTING LAW ENFORCEMENT. UM, IN TERMS OF THE TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT NEEDS. ROCKWELL COUNTY IS, IN MY OPINION, ONE OF THE GREATEST ABOUT THEIR COLLABORATION IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ARENA IN TERMS OF PDS. AND SO, AND THE DA'S OFFICE AND EVERYBODY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE JAIL RECRUIT OF COLLABORATING TO FIND SOLUTIONS. ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE RADIO INOPERABILITY, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE ABOUT, UH, IMPROVING THAT INOPERABILITY UH, CHANGING TO, FOR THE TECHNOLOGY NEEDS AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND, AND THE SHERIFF CAN TALK ABOUT THAT MORE THAN I CAN. UM, WE'VE, WE'RE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT 9 1 1 CALLS, MAKING SURE THAT WITH THE POPULATION INCREASE THAT WE STAY ON TOP OF 9 1 1. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DISPATCH, UM, AND SHERIFF, IF YOU WANNA, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GET INTO THAT, INTO THE WEEDS IN THAT, BUT ALL OF THOSE, UM, ARE IN THIS, UH, OPERATIONAL, UM, INOPERABILITY. UH, WE ALSO NEED TO ADDRESS NEW TECHNOLOGY, NOT ONLY THE NEW TECHNOLOGY CRIMES, THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE COMMITTING CRIMES USING TWO NEW TECHNOLOGY, BUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO USE NEW TECHNOLOGY TO SOLVE THE CRIMES. UM, AND WE'VE GOTTA STAY ON TOP OF THAT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING TO ADDRESS THE INCREASE IN VIOLENT CRIME IN ROCKWALL COUNTY. UM, AND SO THIS IS ALL ABOUT THAT INOPERABILITY. SO THE, OR COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS, THE KPIS, THE INCREASE IN JOINT TRAINING EVENTS, AND WE NEED TO FIX THAT MISSPELLING. [01:20:01] UM, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE, UH, PERCENTAGE INCREASE THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT INSTEAD OF NUMBERS. UM, INCREASE IN INTERLOCAL AND INTERAGENCY AGREEMENTS AND INCREASE IN JOINT TECHNOLOGY CAPABILITY VENTURES. NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT ONE MEANS, BUT THE THIRD ONE AND FOURTH, THE THIRD ONE, UH, THE FOURTH ONE. SO I GUESS THAT'S, I MULTIPLE PEOPLE USING THE SAME TECHNOLOGY. I GUESS IT WOULD BE LIKE THE RADIOS. UM, TERRY, I, I DUNNO, BECAUSE I DO THINK WE, I THINK RADIO INOPERABILITY WAS INCLUDED AT SOME POINT. I I'M SEEING IT OVER ON JUST ON 9 9 9 1 1. BUT I THINK WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN HERE TOO. SO IS THAT WHAT YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT, DIDN'T WE? I CAN'T HEAR YOU DAN. OH, I'M SORRY. BEEN DOWN. I, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING RADIO INOPERABILITY IN, IN ONE OF THESE INITIATIVES. I THINK THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE, THE TECHNOLOGY CAPABILITIES THAT, THAT SHOULD BE NOT ONLY RADIOS, BUT IT WOULD BE, UH, CAT CAD MM-HMM. UH, ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS TO INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY. OKAY. RIGHT. NOT ONLY INCREASE EFFICIENCY, BUT INCREASE SAFETY. BECAUSE IF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WITHIN A 10 SQUARE MILE AREA CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER, THEN WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT, KEEP MORE PEOPLE SAFE. OKAY. WE WERE TOLD THAT WAS CAPABLE FOUR YEARS AGO, WHICH I WAS NO, NO. I'M GONNA BRING IT UP. . OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA ADD, WE NEED TO ADD THAT ONE. OKAY. I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY. NO, I THINK THAT YOU SAYING IT'S IN, WITHIN THAT JOINT TECHNOLOGY PIECE. YEAH. THE, THE LAST ONE, LAST STUFF. GO AHEAD, JUDGE. ALRIGHT. UH, COURT, I MEAN, UNDER THAT TECHNOLOGY, THE COURT ACCESS AS WE'VE HAD, UM, PEOPLE NOW DOING, UH, ZOOM AND THE TRIALS AND THE COURT ACCESS, UM, THAT, I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT THAT ACCESS TO COURTS OR UNDER, UNDER THAT FOURTH ONE THERE. OKAY. I WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, WITH THAT I WOULD SAY ASSESS ON A REOCCURRING BASE STATE OF ROCKWELL COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND JU IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. CORRECT. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD CATCH. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ON SIX THREE? ALRIGHT, SIX FOUR, REVIEWING EMERGENCY SERVICES CORPORATION CHARTER TO EXPAND ITS RESPONSIBILITIES, FACILITIES, ROLES, AND MISSIONS TO ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING. SO, UH, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN MY NOTES THAT SPECIFICALLY WAS IN THIS, EXCEPT THAT OBVIOUSLY, UM, THE ESC IS OVER EMERGENCY SERVICES, THE GUN RAGE. WHAT ELSE? WELL, EMERGENCY SERVICE CORPORATION, UH, HAS THE CAPABILITY OF PROVIDING, UM, I THINK HAS PROVIDED FUNDING FOR JOINT TRAINEES BEFORE, SUCH AS SOME OF THE, UH, JOINT TABLETOPS AND FUNCTIONAL DRILLS. AND, UH, THE MORE WE DO OF THOSE, THE BETTER EFFICIENCY WE GET WITH, UH, INTERAGENCY. IS ESC DOING THAT OR IS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DOING THAT? I THINK SOME OF THAT HAS COME THROUGH IN THE PAST. SOME OF IT HAS COME THROUGH ESC, BUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS DONE THAT THROUGH GRANTS ALSO. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT A OKAY. YEAH. IT'S JUST WHEN WE DO THE TABLETOP DRILLS, MOSTLY WE'RE FUNDS OR FOCUSING ON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ISSUES. BUT, UM, WE HAVE USED THAT RECENTLY TO, UM, DO ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILLS. MM-HMM. AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. OKAY. BUT, BUT THE, THE FUNDING ALSO WOULD BE LIKE WITH, WITH THE GUN RANGE. SO AT SOME POINT THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE UPDATED AT ADDITIONAL TRAINING FACILITIES. THAT'S NOT THE ONLY TYPE OF TRAINING FACILITY WE NEED. SO ADDITIONAL FACILITIES. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. SO YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE ON SIX FOUR? SO INCREASING COMPREHENSIVE, COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING, FUNDED JOINT TRAINING EXERCISES AND INITIATED VERSUS, WE HAVE A COMMENT FROM THAT. SOMEBODY ELSE CAN SPEAK TO THAT ONE, PLEASE. MM-HMM. . UM, JUDGE, DO WE NEED TO HAVE THE RESPONSE TIMES ON THERE FOR ESE OR TIMES THAT WE RESPOND IN THOSE PROCESSES? SHOULD THAT BE A RESPONSE TIME ISSUE? FOR, FOR THE EMS? YEAH. OR SHOULD WE OR [01:25:01] NOT? WE GET OH, THAT'S IN EVERY MONTH. YEAH. I, I, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH, SOMETIMES I JUST FEEL LIKE, DO WE PUT THAT, I KNOW THAT WE DO IT, BUT SHOULD THAT BE IS MY QUESTION IS, AS WE DO THIS PROJECT, SHOULD WE PULL OUR STANDARDS AND REVIEW THAT AS OUR GROWTH POPULATION, THE POPULATION, AND THE RESPONSE EXCHANGE? SO ONE THING I WOULD TELL YOU IS WE TALK ABOUT THE AMBULANCE SERVICES AND OUR DEATH INQUEST TIMES AS WE HAVE MORE TRAFFIC, OUR TIMES ARE INCREASING, YET WE HAVE CONTRACTUAL, DO WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT AS OUR POPULATION INCREASES? SO TO BETTER GIVE THE KEY INDICATORS ON THAT. THAT'S WHY I BRING THAT UP. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I MEAN, TO, TO BE REASSESSING ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS WHAT THOSE RESPONSE TIMES AND THE, AND THE CAUSES OF INCREASED RESPONSE TIMES. BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE SWITCHES. YES. AND JUST SAME REVIEW. YEAH. I LIKE IT. OKAY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? UH, I HAVE A QUESTION. MM-HMM. MORE THAN ANYTHING ON 6.5. THE LAST KPI NUMBER OF NICKEL BROADCASTS. UM, HOW, I GUESS, HOW DOES THAT MEASURE PERFORMANCE IF, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE, IF PUTTING OUT A BUNCH OF 'EM IS, IS A GOAL, WE MAY BE LOSING EFFECTIVENESS BECAUSE WE PUT OUT TOO MANY. SO HOW DOES JUST THE NUMBER OF NICKEL BROADCAST MEASURE PERFORMANCE? SO LET ME, LET ME DO, LET ME LAY OUT SIX FIVE BECAUSE I THINK, UH, I THINK IT'LL HELP ME MAYBE EXPLAIN THAT I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM. BUT ANYWAY, SIX FIVE IS LEVERAGING THE COUNTY DISASTER RESPONSE PLAN TO IMPROVE READINESS AND INCREASE COMMUNITY AWARENESS AND SUPPORT. WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH THIS WITHIN THE COMMITTEE WAS THAT WE FELT LIKE, UM, THERE NEEDED TO BE NOT ONLY A BROAD EMERGENCY PLAN, UM, BUT THAT WE NEEDED TO BUILD. 'CAUSE WE ALREADY DO, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DOES A GREAT JOB OF THE ACTIVE SHOOTER AND THE SCHOOL AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WEATHER EVENTS AND A CHEMICAL SPILL AND ALL THAT. THEY HAVE THESE BROAD EMERGENCY PLANS. I'M NOT, WHAT WE THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE BETTER COMMUNITY AWARENESS OF WHAT THOSE PLANS ARE, UM, BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE. BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT TO DO IN, IN THE, IN THE CASE OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND SO, IN TERMS OF INCREASING THE COMMUNITY EDUCATION EFFORTS WITH THE SCHOOLS, UM, WITH FIRST RESPONDERS, CERTAINLY WITH CERT AND INCREASING THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS, I THINK WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WITH NICKEL BROADCAST IS THAT THERE WAS A QUESTION AS TO HOW MANY ACTUAL NICKEL BROADCASTS THERE ARE TO SEE IF WE'RE HAVING ADEQUATE COMMUNITY INTERACTION. SO THAT'S, I THINK WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, WHETHER THAT, UH, COMMUNICATES THAT OR NOT. I THINK YOU MAY HAVE A POINT. SO AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF NICKEL BROADCASTS DO WHAT YEAH. WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE OUR PERFORMANCE. YEP. SO WE GOTTA HAVE NICKEL BROADCAST, EVERYBODY LIKES THEM. BUT IF WE'RE OVERLOADING PEOPLE, PEOPLE TO START DELETING THEM. TRUE. SO HOW DO WE MEASURE OUR PERFORMANCE AND OUR EFFECTIVENESS? I, AND I DON'T HAVE AN, AN ANSWER, BUT I JUST THINK THE NUMBER DOESN'T ADEQUATELY JUST, DAVID, YOU MIGHT GET AN ANSWER. NO, I MEAN, I NEVER HAVE AN ANSWER. NICKOL IS BEING USED FOR TOO MANY THINGS. RIGHT. SO IF YOU GO, SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, MIKE. ONE OF MY CONCERNS RIGHT, IS THE KPIS. AND I LOVE THE COMMUNICATION PART OF IT, BUT THE OPERATING INITIATIVE SAYS IMPROVED THE READINESS. HMM. YEP. ATION WE'RE MISSING THE RENAISSANCE PART. FOR EXAMPLE, THE NICKEL, I WOULD JUST, IF YOU MAJOR, I WOULD MAJOR THE ALERTS FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORM, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, MAYBE ACCIDENT, BUT DEFINITELY NOT VOTING THING LIKE THAT TO YOUR COURT LEARN. YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU, THAT PEOPLE WANNA MEASURE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE USE IT FOR TONS OF THINGS. WE USE IT AS A COMMUNICATION FOR LOTS OF THINGS. I THINK THIS IS GETTING RIGHT. I THINK IT'S JUST FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. THIS IS MY INTERPRETATION. SO I WOULD SUGGEST ON 6 4, 6 5, YEAH. I WOULD GO BACK AND YOU WE'RE MISSING THE NESS PART OF IT. SO IF YOU GO BACK ONE, THE SIX FOUR, SAME THING, RIGHT? I MEAN THE GREAT COMMUNICATION, NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT DOING THAT, BUT GO BACK TO SIX FOUR REAL QUICK. YOU DO THAT SAME THING. GIVE HIM A SECOND. I'M, [01:30:06] THIS IS THE ONE WE WANNA BE LOOKING AT. SIX FOUR AND SIX THREE. SIX THREE. OKAY. OH AND SIX I THINK. OH, SEE YOU HAVE READINESS RATES ON THAT KPI. SO YOU'RE SAYING ADD IT TO SIX FOUR AND SIX FIVE. YEAH. IT JUST MAKES SURE THAT THE, THE OPERATING INITIATIVE, ALL THINGS LISTED HAVE A KPI TO IT. SO BETTER COST AGENCY OPERATIONAL CAPABILITIES. WHERE DOES THAT, IS THAT THE MONTHLY TRAINING? SO, SO HOW DOES THAT, THAT ACTUALLY MAP WITH KPI? WHO, WHO INITIATES THE, UH, NIXON, I WAS GONNA TALK ON THAT IF I COULD. UM, I'M GONNA HAVE CARISSA ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. WHEN, WHEN I WORKED AT ELECTIONS, THAT'S WAS MY RESPONSIBILITY, WAS TO SEND OUT THE NICKEL ALERTS TO, UH, THE, THE ONES WHO SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE ELECTION ONLY, UH, NOTIFICATIONS. THERE IS A WAY TO MEASURE SOME OF THAT IN THE NICKEL PROGRAM ITSELF, BECAUSE WE CAN SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP. WE CAN SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP BY TEXT MESSAGE, BY EMAIL. AND THAT INFORMATION IS ON, IS ALSO WITH ELECTIONS AS WELL AS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SIDE OF IT. WITH THE ELECTION SIDE OF IT, IT WAS CHOSEN TO GO WITH THE NEXEL PROGRAM BECAUSE WE'RE THEN UTILIZING A PROGRAM THAT WE ALREADY HAD AND DIDN'T HAVE TO ADD MONEY TO IT. UM, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR THAT. SO I THINK ONE OF THE WAYS THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY LOOK AT HOW THAT IS BEING, UM, RECEIVED OR IF IT'S TOO MUCH BY THE AMOUNT OF UNSUBSCRIBING THAT HAPPENS, OR THE ADDED SUBSCRIPTIONS THAT GO TO THAT N NICKEL PROGRAM. UM, BUT THE ELECTION IS A DIFFERENT ONE. IT HAS A LOWER NUMBER. IT STILL HAS, AGAIN, IT STILL HAS TO BE SUBSCRIBED SEPARATELY. UM, BUT THAT IS ONE WAY. HOW DO Y'ALL MEASURE OPEN RATES? DO YOU, WITHIN THE BACKEND SYSTEM? UH, JARED WOULD BE THE BETTER ANSWER TO THAT ONE. OPEN RATES AND TYPES. IT, IS THERE MESSAGE OR YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY GO FROM THERE? WE CAN, WE COULD SEE LIKE WHO OPENED IT BY EMAIL OR WHO OPENED IT BY TEXT OR WHO HAS EITHER ONE OF THEM. OKAY. YEAH. BUT WAS IT, I CAN'T TURN THE, I THINK WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS, BUT I WAS ALWAYS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED NICKEL, IT WAS FOR EMERGENCY STUFF. SO LET US KNOW IF THERE WAS ACCIDENT, IF THERE WAS A CHEMICAL SPILL, IF THERE WAS A SHOOTING OR WHATEVER. MAY HAVE BEEN IS OUR , BUT I WAS ALWAYS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT'S THAT'S WHAT NICKEL WAS DESIGNED TO DO TO MAKE US AWARE OF THE, IN THE COMMUNITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON. I I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO MAYBE TAKE THE WORD NEXEL OUT AND JUST CALL IT THE NUMBER OF EMERGENCY BROADCAST. OKAY. 'CAUSE NEXEL WAS DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO GOING AWAY LAST YEAR. YEAH. UH, HAD SAID THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO USE THEIR SERVICE ANYMORE AND WE WERE ACTIVELY SHOPPING FOR SUBSTITUTE. AND THEN THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, JUST KIDDING YOU, YOU CAN STILL USE US. UH, SO I THINK THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING UNDER, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE UNDER ANOTHER UMBRELLA NOW. SO THE NAME TYPICAL VENDOR PROCEDURE AND SOMEBODY BOUGHT SOMEBODY AND JUST CALL IT YEAH. SO JUST CALL IT NUMBER OF EMERGENCY BROADCAST. 'CAUSE NICKEL, NICKEL MAY BE GONE. AND, AND MAYOR BILLING'S POINT, SO THE ELECTIONS IS AN OPT-IN THE TRAFFIC IS AN OPT-IN. UH, AND, AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT. SO I'VE OPTED INTO EVERYTHING. SO IT DOES GET A LITTLE, LITTLE BOGGED DOWN. CHRIS'S POINT WAS INTERESTING, I THINK, AND THIS IS CORPORATE ME CASE, SO SORRY, LITTLE BIT AT T HERE. BUT DO WE MEASURE PEN THE PENETRATION RATES OF THE USE OF THE MERCY BROADCAST? SO WE WAS A HUNDRED X NUMBER THOU A HUNDRED THOUSAND SHOULD SAID HOW MUCH ACTUALLY USE IT? AND THEN HOW DO WE IMPROVE THAT? RIGHT. AND I THINK THERE OTHER POINT I MISUNDERSTOOD OR WAS WHAT I CALL A CHURN RATE THAT MANY PEOPLE SUBSCRIBE, IT UNSUBSCRIBE. RIGHT? AND WHY IS THAT HAPPENING? IF YOU HAVE A CHURN RATE AT 5%, PROBABLY FINE. IF YOU HAVE TURN RATE 10%, YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHY PEOPLE ARE STARTING TURNING IT OFF. AND I, I, I'M, SO TO ME, IN A VERY STANDARD KPI WORLD IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT SENSE, I KINDA GIVE A SENSE CENTER. SO IN A CENTER KPI WORD YOU WOULD MEASURE PENETRATION RATES. THE CHURN RATES AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT COMMUNICATION IS HARDER. BUT I WOULD REST, YOU CAN JUST BE ABLE TO MEASURE. I THINK SHE RESPOND. I THINK SHE SAID SHE COULD. I THINK SHE MENTIONED IT. SO ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO IS, UH, UNDER A KPI IS TO, UM, LOOK AT THE NUMBER AND I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE NUMBER, THE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE OUR EMERGENCY ALERTS. UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S ROUGHLY A THOUSAND PEOPLE A MONTH MOVING HERE, AND E EVERYBODY THINKS [01:35:01] WE HAVE, UH, SEVERE WEATHER SIRENS. AND SOME CITIES DO, SOME CITIES DON'T. UH, AND, AND IT, IT, THE, SOME PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE BIT SHOCKED WHEN I SAY NO, TEXT THIS NUMBER. AND, AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET ALERTS. UH, SO I, I WOULD THINK WE, WE HAVE TO ACTIVELY BE ENGAGING NEW RESIDENTS TO LET 'EM KNOW HOW WE DISSEMINATE INFORMATION. I, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOING IT ON MESSAGE BOARDS, UM, BUT WITH THE RAILROAD, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. GOOD IDEA. YEAH. HEY, FRANK, JUDGE, JUST ONE MORE SUGGESTION ON IPODS, RIGHT? SO, AND I KNOW IT'S A FORCED COMMUNICATION, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . BUT THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION BETWEEN US RIGHT AROUND NOT BEING ACTIVATED, WHICH NOT IT SHOULD ACTIVATE, RIGHT? SO CAN WE MEASURE THAT TOO? BECAUSE I THINK IT GIVES PEOPLE A COMFORT LEVEL THAT WE, WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION SYSTEM OR TURN HITS THE GROUND. WE HAVE A WAY OF COMMUNICATING EVERYBODY AT THE SAME TIME. HOW WHEN IS ACTIVATED? I DON'T KNOW HOW A ANSWER, BUT THINK, THINK ABOUT IT, COMMUNICATING THAT PUBLIC, BUT ALSO WORK NEEDS TO WORK. YEAH. WE, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE ACTIVATING EVERYBODY SOMETIMES IS A MISTAKE AS WELL AS NOT ACTIVATING IS A MISTAKE. SO IT'S EITHER WAY WE GO. BUT YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. HAVE A, A GOOD HAMMERED OUT PROCEDURE AND A PROTOCOL TO BE GOOD. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT FALLS UNDER INITIATIVE 6.5 . OKAY. CAN'T DRAW THIS. I DID. YES. CHANGES ARE ON THE NOTES ON THE SIDE HERE. AND THEN 6.5 IS OUR LAST ONE FOR THIS. COOL. 6.66. THANK YOU. SIX SIX. SO 6.6. IMPROVED COUNTY HEALTH AND WELFARE OUTCOMES BY ENHANCING RELATIONSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY NONPROFITS THROUGH JOINT PLANNING EFFORTS, INCREASING ACCESS, THE RESOURCES, SERVICES, AND INFORMATION. SO WHEN I WENT BACK THROUGH MY NOTES, I WAS, I THINK THAT THIS IS ADDRESSING THAT WE THINK THAT THERE IS A, A NEED OR, OR, OR A DESIRE TO BUILD BETTER COLLABORATIONS WITH HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, ET CETERA, UM, NONPROFITS TO DO WHAT LAUREN WAS, HE LEFT, UH, TO DO WHAT LAUREN WAS TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT'S TO BUILD THOSE COLLABORATIVE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY ITSELF. SO I THINK THAT WE ALSO HAVE BUILT IN THAT SAME IDEA INTO 6.6, UM, THE CREATING THE COUNTY NON-PROFIT, HEALTH AND WELFARE ALLIANCE. UH, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS EXCEPT TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT NONPROFITS AND, AND CERTAINLY AWARENESS AND EDUCATION IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. UM, BUT I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT ALLIANCE DOES. AND THEN WE HAD ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE NEED OR, OR, OR THE DESIRE FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS INTENTIONAL OR, OR UNINTENTIONAL GROWTH WITHIN THE COUNTY. UM, AND WITH, WHEN DEVELOPERS BRING IN THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, THEY CREATE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, SCHOOLS, UTILITIES, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT STUFF. AND TO MAYBE HAVE KIND OF AN OVERSIGHT IN THIS OPERATING INITIATIVE FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPERS TO BE PAYING FOR SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS, UM, THAT ARE BROUGHT ON BY THE POPULATION SEARCHES. SO, HMM. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT GOES IN HERE OR IF WE DON'T, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED. YEAH. THERE'S ALREADY, THE NONPROFITS ALREADY HAVE FORMED AN ALLIANCE. I KNOW THAT. AND THEY MEET, BUT THEY DON'T MEET REGULARLY. AND I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING MAYBE TO THE COUNTY TO HELP US, UM, FACILITATE OR FOSTER MORE COLLABORATION BETWEEN EVERYONE. OKAY. WELL THEN THAT'S GREAT. YEAH. AND I THINK THE ONE, WHAT'S MISSING IS MENTAL. SO WE HAD TO GO TO GREENVILLE FOR MENTAL HEALTH, I UNDERSTAND LAST NIGHT. BUT WE TAKE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. TAKE US, AND WE AM HOMELESS AND HAVE TO GO TO COLLIN COUNTY. WE TAKE, YOU TAKE MENTAL HEALTH TO HELP THE HOMELESS PEOPLE TO, TO COLLIN COUNTY BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE HOMELESS SERVICES THERE. AND WE TAKE SOME MENTAL HEALTH, I THINK, ON TO GREENVILLE. SO WE THIS BE PART OF THIS MAKES MORE INTO ROCKWELL COUNTY. WE TAKE, WE USE THE MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES IN TARRELL, RUS, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT FORENSIC. I'M NOT SURE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. HUH? FORENSIC BEDS. IS THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S WHAT WE MEDIA. YEAH. EIGHT PALS CAN GO TO GREEN BOWL, THEY CAN GO TO RICHARDSON. [01:40:02] MY QUESTION, I JUST EXAMPLE, IS THIS A TEMP OF THAT TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS TOO, THAT LIKE WE HAVE NONPROFIT, SOME GREAT THINGS. WE HAVE UNFULFILLED NEEDS. IS THIS INITIATIVE TO HELP TO DO UNFULFILLED NEEDS? NO, I WOULDN'T THINK SO. I I DON'T MEAN JUST ASKING HONESTLY. IT SAYS MENTAL HEALTH AND SETTING YOURSELF UP. WELL, I, I MEAN, IF THERE IS A NEED, I THINK THAT THERE'S A NONPROFIT THAT CAN, THAT CAN HELP SOLVE IT. AND IF I JUST AM NOT SURE WHAT THE COUNTY'S ROLE MATTERS, I LIKE THE IDEA OF FACILITATING OR HOSTING THE ALLIANCE THAT'S ALREADY IN EXISTENCE. BUT I JUST, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COUNTY'S RULE HERE. UM, BUT THE KPIS INCREASE OF INFORMATION DISSEMINATION NUMBER OR PERCENTAGE OF EVENTS VERSUS BALLOT BUDGET ALLOCATION AND PERCENTAGE OF IMPROVEMENT ON KEY COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELFARE VERSUS TESTING. I'M GONNA BE HONEST, I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANY OF THOSE. I DON'T, SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE MEAN. SO MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US INSIGHT. SO THIS, SINCE THIS INITIATIVE IS FOCUSED ON THE, INCREASING THE OUTCOMES OF, UH, IMPROVING COUNTY HEALTH AND WELFARE OUTCOMES BY ENHANCING RELATIONSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY NONPROFITS, WE HAD A PERCENTAGE INCREASE OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING DISSEMINATED OUT. IS THERE MORE INFORMATION REACHING NONPROFITS THAN BEFORE? UM, NUMBER OF EVENTS VERSUS BUDGET ALLOCATION. I THINK THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT WE HAD, UM, COMMUNICATED. HOW ARE WE INCREASING THE EVENTS AND WHAT IS THE RESOURCES BEING EXPANDED ON THESE IN THE EFFORT OF, UM, ENHANCING THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OUTCOMES. SO I, I THINK REFINING THESE KPIS IS NEEDED. I DO TOO. AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IS FOCUS ON HOW ARE WE REACHING OUR KEY COMMUNITIES, WHAT BUDGET AND RESOURCES BEING SPENT ON THAT? AND THEN, UM, HOW ARE WE TRACKING THAT ACTUAL IMPROVEMENT ITSELF SINCE THAT'S THE FOCUS OF THE GOAL. SO SOME WORDS, NOTHING'S NEEDED. HOW WOULD YOU TRACK, HOW WOULD YOU TRACK PERCENTAGE OF EVENTS? THE BUDGETS OR WHAT? I COULD JUST TELL DO WE PAY? WE WE DON'T GET, THEY WOULD'VE TO COME TO US. TELL, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO GO NONPROFITS. SOME, THE ONLY, ONLY KPI THAT EVEN MAKES SENSE TO ME IS THE LASTING ON THIS. I DON'T, I THINK WE FOUND A ROLE FOR, UH, NEXT YEAR. YEAH. GIMME THAT ONE NEXT YEAR. I THINK WE NEED TO REWORK THIS ONE. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S HELPFUL. OKAY. SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL WORK ON THESE KPIS FOR 6.6 AND TRY AND CAPTURE THIS, HOW WE WOULD MEASURE THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OUTCOMES AND ENHANCING THESE RELATIONSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY NONPROFITS IN THAT EFFORT. AGAIN, THE GOAL OF SIX IS EXPANDING SUPPORT FOR JUDICIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE EMERGENCY, AND PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES. SO, ANYTHING ELSE ON SIX? SHERIFF, WE, WE'LL UPDATE 6.6. ANY OTHER YEP. COMMENTS? WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A BREAK SINCE WE'VE BEEN MOVING NOW FOR A, A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME. ONE HOUR, ONE HOUR LATER. FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND CONVENE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA DO NUMBER FOUR. THANK YOU. WE'RE YOU OKAY? WE ARE BACK ON THE CLOCK. 3 39. WOODY CALEB, BACK OVER TO YOU. WE'RE GONNA START ON STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER FOUR. YEAH. HERE. THAT'S THE ONLY PERSON YOU COMPLAIN. ALRIGHT. STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER FOUR, INVEST IN COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE, THE OPERATING INITIATIVES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED IN OUR LAST MEETING. SO, 4.1, REFINING THE ROLE STRUCTURE AND MISSION OF ROCKWELL ROAD CONSORTIUM TO EXPAND ITS SCOPE TO CREATE A COUNTYWIDE ALLIANCE BODY THAT ADDRESSES FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS BY CREATING A UNIFIED STRATEGY PLANNING EFFORT THAT INCLUDES THE PRIORITIZATION AND FUNDING FOR PROJECTS. 4.2, ESTABLISHED LEGISLATIVE STRATEGIES TO INCREASE COUNTY AND CITY AUTHORITIES OVER [01:45:01] APPROVALS AND OPERATIONS OF MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS AND OTHER SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICTS. 4.3. LEVERAGING THE OPEN SPACE ALLIANCE. CREATE A COUNTY RIDE TRAIL PLAN THAT INCORPORATES CITY EFFORTS WITH UTILITIES TO LEVERAGE EXISTING AND FUTURE EASEMENTS AND CORRIDORS. 4.4. DEVELOP ENHANCED STORM RUNOFF AND FLOOD CONTROL STRATEGIES, INCLUDING THE MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING CONSERVATION LAKES. UM, 4.5 IN COLLABORATION WITH TXDOT AND THE CITIES IDENTIFY MODERN PRACTICES AND TECHNOLOGIES TO MONITOR, PREDICT AND MANAGE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION PATTERNS. AND LAST 4.6, IDENTIFYING INVESTMENT MECHANISMS FOR AND FUNDING SOURCES TO SUPPORT COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT, MAINTENANCE, AND REPAIR COSTS. AND YOU'LL SEE THEY'RE LISTED THE TIME HORIZONS THAT WERE ALSO SELECTED FOR EACH ONE. SO WE'LL MOVE INTO THE BREAKDOWN OF EACH OF THESE AND DISCUSS THE KPIS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. EXCUSE ME. SO IN OUR FIRST ONE, REFINING THE ROLE AND STRUCTURE OF A ROCKWALL CONSORTIUM. UM, SOME OF THE INITIAL TASKS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IS TO ESTABLISH THE CHARTER, CONTINUE MONTHLY TRACKING OF THE ROAD BOND INITIATIVES, REEVALUATE AND ADAPT, EXCUSE ME, UPDATE COUNTY THOROUGHFARE PLAN WITH CITY OVERLAYS FOR TO DEFINE APP, APP APPORTIONMENT CATEGORIES AND VALUES. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE INITIAL TASKS THAT WOULD BE DONE BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE KPIS? OR WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE TASKS THAT ARE THIS YEAR? MAN, WE ALREADY GOT RID OF ONE OF THOSE TODAY. . WE VOTED ON IT. GO US. WE'RE A NEGATIVE ONE. GOT A START DATE. UM, MY QUESTION IS ON THE KPIS MM-HMM. PERCENT OF ROAD BONDS EXECUTED NUMBER OF COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND PERCENT OF COUNTY BUDGET SPEND VERSUS PLAN FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR. I I I MEAN, IS THAT THE BEST MEASURE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING? IS LIKE, I'M, MY, MY QUESTION IS, IS THOSE, THOSE ARE ALL METRICS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT BAD. BUT IS, IS THAT THE BEST MEASURE OF, OF WHAT WE'RE DOING? I MEAN, THE TECH STOCK COMES THROUGH AND BUILDS EVERY SINGLE ROAD IN ROCKWALL COUNTY. IT'S GONNA BE LIKE, WELL, WE GOT EVERY ROAD BUILT, BUT WE SPENT NO MONEY, SO WE'RE DOING BAD. LIKE, LIKE WHAT ARE WE, LIKE IS THAT REALLY MEASURING THE PROGRESS OR SHOULD IT BE RELATED TO THE ACTUAL COMPLETION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS? LIKE THE NUMBER OF COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS COMPLETED WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER METRIC ON ARE WE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING? WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, THIS CONSORTIUM, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIGURE STUFF OUT. BUT ARE WE ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING? NOT NECESSARILY ARE WE SPENDING MONEY OR ARE WE SPENDING BOND MONEY, BUT ARE WE DOING STUFF BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALWAYS OUR MONEY? AND THAT'S, I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO BE MORE FOCUSED ON THE DELIVERABLES. UH, I AGREE. SO YOU'RE SAYING LIKE ON KPI TWO, ADD COMPLETED AT THE END AND, AND THAT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE KPI FOR 4.1. ARE WE COMPLETING COUNTING YEAH. PROJECTS? WELL, IT'S, I THINK IT'S A GREAT ADD BECAUSE THAT IS THE ULTIMATE MEASURE OF OUR SUCCESS. BUT I THINK THE, UH, I, NUMBER ONE, THE PERCENTED ROAD BONDS EXECUTED, UM, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. NUMBER THREE I THINK MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE, UM, OUR COUNTY BUDGET, WE HAVE COUNTY ROADS WE GOTTA DEAL WITH AND WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HANDLING THEM PROPERLY. AND I, I KNOW EVERYBODY, MOST PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON CITY GOVERNMENT AT SOME POINT OR HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. AND IT'S HARD TO KEEP THOSE CITY STREET MAINTENANCE BUDGETS UP. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, WE SPEND MONEY TO KEEP OUR COUNTY ROADS REAL GOOD. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE THIRD ONE IS ADDRESSING. RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE ON THIS OPERATING INITIATIVE. THIS IS ON THE ROCKWELL COUNTY ROAD CONSORTIUM. UM, AND, AND, AND THE PERCENT OF COUNTY BUDGETS SPENT AND PLANNING ON ROAD MAINTENANCE IS IMPORTANT. AND, AND I THINK AS A COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT. BUT IT DOESN'T, THE THE CONSORTIUM ISN'T GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT COUNTY ROADS. RIGHT? THE CONSORTIUM IS GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT ALL, LIKE, THE ROLE IS MORE THE TECH. WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH ALL INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, OUR ROAD IS, IS, IS OFF OF, OF THE CONSORTIUM. OKAY. SO YOU THINK THAT SHOULD BE MOVED SOMEWHERE ELSE? YEAH. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT A GOOD GOAL. I'M SAYING THIS ENTIRE KPI COULD JUST BE MEASURED BY ARE WE DOING PROJECTS? NO, ACTUALLY IT'S A LOT MORE [01:50:01] THAN THAT. BECAUSE THIS IS THIS, THIS THE, AN OPERATING INITIATIVE IS TRYING TO COME UP WITH MORE THAN JUST A COUNTYWIDE ROAD CONSORTIUM. IT'S THIS COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORTIUM. THIS IS WHY THE NUMBER OF COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IS THE END RESULT OF THAT COLLABORATION. NOT NOT MAKING IT ROADS SAYING, ARE WE IMPROVING OUR DAMS, IMPROVING OUR DRAINAGE? ARE ARE WE DOING ROAD PROJECTS? WHAT, WHAT IF WE'RE GONNA EXPAND THE CONSORTIUM? THE CONSORTIUM SHOULD BE MEASURED BY COMPLETED PROJECTS. I AGREE WITH THAT. I AGREE WITH YOU. IT'S ALREADY EXPANDED BY JUST INFRASTRUCTURE. WE COULD RECOMMEND THAT THOSE MIGHT MOVE TO OPERATING INITIATIVE 4.6 WHERE WE HAVE KPIS FOR INVESTMENT AND FUNDING IN, UM, COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT. THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE A SPOT THAT THOSE KPIS COULD BE MOVED TO. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE BAD KPIS. I I JUST THINK THAT, WELL IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, AND LAUREN, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT AND UM, JOHN, IF WE LOOK OVER HERE AT FOUR POINT, UM, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT, 4.6, UM, THAT REALLY IS MORE ABOUT COUNTYWIDE AND MAYBE WE CAN PUT IT SOMEWHERE OVER HERE. YEAH. 'CAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT TASK, UM, IS TO CREATE A COUNTY PRIORITIZED LIST OF ROADWAY AND INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE. 'CAUSE I THINK THAT MEANS THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE CONSORTIUM. THAT'S MORE OF OUR ROADS AND BRIDGES. CORRECT. JUST MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. PUT IT OVER THERE. YEAH. SO WE COULD JUST TAKE THAT, THAT ONE PART OFF. MM-HMM. , I THINK THIS ONE NEEDS TO FOCUS ON THE CONSORTIUM AND THE OTHER ONE CAN FOCUS ON YEAH, WE TRY. I THINK MAYBE WE WERE TRYING TO PUT TWO TOGETHER. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. UM, ONE THING WE DID THAT WE DON'T DO HERE THOUGH IS, AND THIS MAY BE, I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT'S CONCERNED ABOUT IT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT INITIAL, THE FIRST INITIAL TASK, IT'S ESTABLISHED THE CHARTER IN FISCAL YEAR 25, ESTABLISH A CHARTER AND STRUCTURE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORTIUM IN INCLUDING SUBCOMMITTEES. AND I THINK THE REASON THIS IS REAL IMPORTANT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND WHAT THE ROAD CONSORTIUM'S DOING. MM-HMM. . AND TO DO THAT EFFECTIVELY, WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD STRUCTURE IN PLACE. RIGHT. AND SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT INITIAL TASK, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A KPI TO MEASURE OUR SUCCESS THERE. AND I THINK THERE SHOULD BE BECAUSE, AND IT SHOULD PROBABLY ALL BE IN THE FIRST YEAR, BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WHERE WE PUT THAT STRUCTURE IN PLACE. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO A FEW ROAD CONSORTIUM MEETINGS, PROBABLY NOT AS MANY AS YOU GUYS HAVE. UM, BUT I'VE BEEN TO A FEW AND IT'S, IF ALL WE DO IS KIND OF GO AROUND THE ROOM AND LISTEN TO A, UH, A NARRATOR, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT ACCOMPLISHES A LOT. AND ESPECIALLY NOW, IF WE'RE GONNA BRING IN ALL A ASPECTS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH AS I UNDERSTAND JUDGE KNEW WHAT YOU WANNA DO. YES SIR. WE WANNA BRING ALL THAT IN. WILL WE BETTER MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WELL ORGANIZED SO THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WORKING ON EACH OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON TO FEED INTO THAT CONSORTIUM? YES. THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUBCOMMITTEES WITHIN THE CONSORTIUM WOULD BE A KPI. YES. SOME WE NEED SOMETHING TO MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF ACTUALLY GETTING THAT FIRST BULLET POINT UNDER INITIAL TASKS COMPLETED. WE'LL WORK ON DEVELOPING ONE FOR THAT ONE. OKAY. AND THEN, I MEAN, I JUST ON THE SECOND INITIAL TASK, CONTINUE MONTHLY TRACKING OF ROBOT INITIATIVES IS PLENTY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE THE PREPOSITIONAL PHRASE WITH TEXT. NO. RIGHT. JUST, YEAH. OKAY. THEN YOU'RE ENDING A THOUGHT WITH THE PREPOSITIONAL PHRASE. BUT, BUT I THINK, YEAH, IT'S LIKE, ALRIGHT. I, I KNOW I SHOULD NEVER HAVE TOLD JUDGE KNEW THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THAT ALL THE TIME NOW, AREN'T WE? YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. AND WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE ALSO MOVE THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY OVER TO 4.6 AS WELL? SO IT RELATES TO THE PERCENTAGE OF ROBOTS? I MEAN, IT, IT CAN, BUT THE CONSORTIUM DOES KEEP UP WITH ROBOT INITIATIVE. I JUST DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIC TO TEXTILE. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ROAD INITIATIVES. RIGHT. I JUST FELT THAT WAS TOO NARROW. I DO, I DO. NO, I THINK IT BELONGS HERE BECAUSE I THINK IT GETS BACK TO ALSO THAT TRANSPARENCY, GOVERNMENT TRANSPARENCY THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. WE TALKED ABOUT INITIALLY. ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON 4.1? ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE INTO 4.2 ESTABLISHING LEGISLATIVE STRATEGIES. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SURE. AND, AND I, THIS MAY BE AN UNFAIR QUESTION, BUT I KNOW THIS MORNING YOU [01:55:01] GUYS IN YOUR COURT, UM, CAME UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALLOCATIONS ASSESSMENTS. OF COURSE YOU LAID OUT A BUNCH OF THEM. AND ONE OF THESE INITIAL TASK IS DEFINE APPORTIONMENT CATEGORIES AND VALUES. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE DONE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS. SO HOW CAN WE CREATE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF THIS? BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT IF WE HAVE THESE ASSESSMENTS AND ALLOCATIONS THAT WE DO A GOOD JOB OF IT AND DO IT PROPERLY. I I I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A, A MISPLACED INITIATIVE. UM, IT IT, NOT TO GO AWAY, BUT UM, UH, IT ALMOST ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE ONE, IT ALMOST WOULD GO TO 4.6 BECAUSE CREATING A CANADA LEVEL CIP IS INFRASTRUCTURE PROPORTIONALITY. UM, UNLESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU, I JUST THAT'S FINE. UM, UM, I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THE CONSORTIUM DEFINES APPORTIONMENT. I THINK THE COURT DOES. I I AGREE WITH YOU. MM-HMM. , I AGREE WITH YOU. MM-HMM. . UM, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT SOMEWHERE. UM, AND YEAH, IF THERE'S A BETTER POCKET TO PUT IT IN, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT SOMEWHERE AND WE HAVE TO EVALUATE , OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA GET HAMMERED. THINK I SEE DEFINING APPORTIONMENT CATEGORIES AND VALUE SHOULD BE A TASK OF 4.6. YEAH, I AGREE. 4.6 TALKS ABOUT FUNDING SOURCES TO SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I THINK IT FITS THERE ABOUT I DO DO OKAY. JUST BECAUSE OF THAT LANGUAGE, BUT I AGREE WE NEED A KPI FOR IT. OKAY. WE'RE MOVING IT TO 4.6. THAT INITIAL TASK OVER THERE. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S, WE DON'T GET RID OF THE INITIAL TASK. WE PUT IT IN 4.65 KPI THAT MATCHES IT. OKAY. MM-HMM. . ALRIGHT. THAT HAS BEEN NOTED ANYMORE ON 4.1 BEFORE WE MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT. 4.2, ESTABLISHING LEGISLATIVE STRATEGIES TO INCREASE COUNTY AND CITY AUTHORITIES OVER, UM, MUDS AND SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICTS. SO SOME OF THE INITIAL TASKS THERE ARE ESTABLISHING YOUR LEGISLATIVE ACTION COMMITTEE, DEVELOPING LEGISLATIVE ACTION CALENDAR AND ESTABLISHING THE LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY AND PRIORITY BILLS. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? WE HAVE A KPI THERE OF, UM, PERCENTAGE OF DRAFT BILL SUBMITTED VERSUS ADOPTED EVERY 10. I'M GONNA TRY ONE MORE TIME ON THIS ONE AND I'LL THEN I'LL DUMP AND I'LL BE QUIET ABOUT THIS. WE SHOULD NOT MEASURE ADOPTED. THE SHOULD MEASURE IS BILLS, UM, SUBMITTED. CAN YOU SPEAK INTO YOUR MIC SO WE CAN HEAR YOU PLEASE? THANK YOU. SO GETTING BILLS ADOPTED IS BASED ON POLITICAL FACTORS BEYOND WAY BEYOND OUR CONTROL. AS WE GET LUCKY, IT HAS TO BE A BILL THAT WE GET SUBMITTED AND, AND THEN MEASURE HOW MANY GET THE COMMITTEE. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST STEP. YEAH. TO A POINT. AND THEN WE GET REALLY LUCKY WE CAN GO BEYOND THAT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU COMMITTEE BECOMES ALL ABOUT THE SPEAKER OR THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. WHAT GETS ON THE FLOOR, DUG ON THE FLOOR CALENDAR. IT'S JUST A COMPLICATED PROCESS ONCE IT GETS BACK. I COMPLICATED IN COMMITTEE. I JUST MADE SURE GET INTO COMMITTEE AND WE CAN BE ON THAT. GREAT. BUT I HAVE A HARD TIME RECONCILING HOW TWO INVESTING IN COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, I'M THANK YOU. I'M OBVIOUSLY AGAINST MUD LEGISLATION AND, AND AND, AND I'M NOT AGAINST THE INITIATIVE, BUT THIS ISN'T COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS LEGISLATIVE. SO, SO WE STRUGGLE THE WE STRUGGLE WITH THAT TOO. THE COMMITTEE MULTIPLE TIMES WE BROUGHT IT UP. RIGHT. WE HAVE OVERLAPPING BETWEEN RIGHT. FRANK, I THINK DANA, I THINK WE DID DO THIS. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MANY, MANY TIMES ABOUT OVERLAP AND WE LEFT IT THERE IS THE MUD PART OF IT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY IT SHOULD BE MORE MUD SPECIFIC, THE MUD INFRASTRUCTURE AS WE'RE HITTING WITH THIS. AND THE REST SHOULD BE ANY, THE OTHER ONE, I MEAN WE SPENT GOOD 10 MINUTES TALKING ABOUT THIS. YEAH. I MEAN, 3.1 COULD COVER IT. I MEAN, TO HAVE AN ENTIRE ITEM THAT SAYS, HEY, WE WANT TO FIX MUDS AND SPECIAL DISTRICTS. UM, I MEAN THAT'S ESTABLISHED ROCKWALL COUNTY'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. IT SHOULD BE A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY, ESPECIALLY FOR THE COUNTY OF ROCKWALL TO HAVE MORE LOCAL CONTROL OVER [02:00:01] MUDS IN CITIES. WELL, NO, BUT I'M SAYING LIKE THAT'S SPECIFICALLY TO THE, THE COUNTY. YEAH. TOO. INSIDE A CITY. I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAD IT IN THREE AND WE MOVED IT OUTTA THREE. IS THAT, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? I I AGREE WITH DAVID. THIS HAS BEEN BATTED AROUND A LOT. YEAH. AND THIS TO ME IS A CONSEQUENCE OF NOT ADDING OUR SEVENTH GOAL. OKAY. I DON'T SORRY TO BRING IT UP AGAIN, BUT IT'S OKAY. BUT ANYWAY, I'M NOT, THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY. OKAY. OKAY. BUT, AND IF WE WANNA ONE TOGETHER, IF WE WANNA COMBINE IT WITH 3.1 AND CONSOLIDATE. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. WE DO IT. EVERYBODY HERE AGREES THIS IS IMPORTANT. BUT BEFORE I GET, I DEAL WITH THAT, I, I WOULD THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE, CAN WE LOOK AT THE KPIS? I MEAN, IF I AGREE WITH DAVID DRAFT BILLS SUBMITTED VERSUS ADOPTED. I, I FORGET ABOUT ADOPTED, BUT WHAT DO WE SUBMIT? BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO THINGS, AND YOU KNOW BARB ABOUT THIS THAN I DO BY FAR BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN THERE SO MUCH. BUT HOW ELSE DO WE MEASURE IT? DO WE MEASURE TESTIFYING AND LET IN LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEES, DO WE MEASURE MEETINGS WITH PEOPLE? HOW DO WE GET THIS? THERE'S GOTTA BE, IF WE WANNA REALLY HAVE KPIS THAT WORK, THEN CAN WE BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC? YEAH. SO THE WAY I MEASURE IT FOR OURS IS WE, SO WE HAVE AN IDEA, WE HAVE LESS SOME IDEAS. RIGHT? CAN YOU GET INTO YOUR MIC AGAIN? I'M SORRY. YEAH. WE HAVE LIST SOME IDEAS WE WANT TO GET DONE. SO LET'S SAY THAT WHATEVER MONTH, RIGHT? THEN HOW MANY BILLS DO WE JUST, WE GET, UM, SUBMITTED OR WRITTEN FOR US? MM-HMM. , RIGHT? THAT'S GOAL STEP TWO. STEP THREE IS HOW MANY OF THOSE WE CAN INTO COMMITTEE, RIGHT? THEN STEP FOUR IS, HEY THEN IF COMMITTEE IS AUTOMATIC, RIGHT? THE STATE MEASURE. SO STEP FOUR IS, CAN WE GET A HEARING? MM-HMM. . SO WE TRACK, I TRACK THE STUFF WE DO TODAY. I TRACK ALL FOUR. OKAY. WELL DO YOU NOT TRACK? CAN YOU GET IT OUT COMMITTEE? I DO, BUT WE'VE NEVER GOT ONE. OUR COMMITTEE. I THINK ALL THOSE ARE KPIS THOUGH. I THINK YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW FAR YOU GET IN EACH ONE OF THOSE YOU JUST LISTED. ALL THOSE ARE IMPORTANT STEPS. YEAH. YOU CAN GET, YOU GET A HISTORY, YOU CAN DEVELOP THE BASELINE. ALL THOSE ARE DIFFERENT KPIS. YEAH. YOU CAN DEVELOP A BASELINE. AND WE HAVE ONE, RIGHT? LIKE WE KNOW THETA HAS AUTHOR GOT THREE BILLS INTRODUCED. WE HAD TO THE COMMITTEE ONE, THE 4 0 1 PASSED. WE, SO WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE GETTING PASSED. IT WAS A MINOR MUD BILL, BUT IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR A CITY GOING PAST. RIGHT. MY CONCERN ABOUT THE WAY IT, IT'S DRAFT IT IS, IT'S ONCE IT AGAINST COMMITTEE, IT'S ABOUT POLITICS. IT JUST, IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THAT COMMITTEE CHAIR WANTS STUDENT DOES ABOUT POLITICS. YOU, YOU, WHEN IT GETS TO COMMITTEE, YOU'VE LOST THE ILLUSION OF HAVING UNIQUE CONTROL AND YOU NEVER HAD CONTROL BEFORE, BUT YOU HAD THE ILLUSION OF CONTROL WHEN IT GETS TO COMMITTEE, THE ILLUSION'S GONE. YEAH. SO MAJOR THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT GET WHEN THE, THE COMMITTEE HEARING MIGHT BE INTERESTED. I KNOW IT'S ABOUT 20 WHATEVER IT'S, I END UP DOING. IT'S A LOT. AND DO WE WANNA MEASURE ALSO JUST AN IDENTIFICATION OF ALL THE BILLS THAT WE WANNA HAVE INPUT ON? WE DO. SO LAST SESSION THAT WAS 2200 BILLS THAT WE'RE AIMED AT THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY AS OF THIS MORNING, 2 2200 HAS BEEN INTRODUCED IN SIX HOURS. IN SIX HOURS. ABOUT KI YOU CURIOUS, I WAS TRYING TO PULL UP RIGHT NOW, SEE HOW MANY BILLS YOU HAD TO DO STEPPING IN. UM, ABOUT HALF OF THOSE ARE CITY BILLS ALREADY AND COUNTY BILLS. SO THEY TRACK WE DO AND WE DO LIKE CITY FATE DOES DO THAT. WE TRACK, UM, THE CITY RELATED BILLS. THEN WE HAVE, WHEN WE TAKE THOSE, WE SAY, OKAY, WHICH ONES ARE DUPLICATES? LIKE TODAY THERE WAS ONE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE CAP 10%, WE GOT THREE PEOPLE FILE WHERE THE CAP 10% TO 5% THAT THREE SEPARATE BILLS. SO YOU CAN TAKE ALL THE DUPLICATES OUT. RIGHT. YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHO'S GONNA INTRODUCE IT AND THEN YEAH. BUT WE DO TRACK ABOUT PROBABLY 50 TO A HUNDRED, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. SO IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS IT, IF IT DOES STAY NOW COUNTY DIFFERENT PROBLEM. LIKE WE JUST WENT TO, BUT WE ARE INTERESTED IN. BUT YOU HAVE A WHOLE SET OF BILLS THAT GOT FILED TODAY. I THREE MONTHS. RIGHT. PEOPLE SEND ME, UH, 12, 12 EMAILS TODAY SAYS, HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BILL? NO, I'VE BEEN IN MEETINGS ALL DAY. I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS BILL. SO I, I GO LOOK FOR IT. YOU LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IMPORTANCE OF IT'S. YEAH. SO, UH, YEAH AND TO YOUR POINT, I'LL PROBABLY GET 10 MORE EMAILS TOMORROW, WHICH I APPRECIATE. I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE THE IMPRESSION I'M LIKE, SEND ME, I'LL JUST SEND THE WHOLE REPORT TO YOU THEN. YEAH, SEND IT TO ME. YEAH, I'LL SEND UP THE PAGE. BUT I THINK FOR KPI, IT JUST SHOULD BE HOW MANY WE GET WRITTEN INTRODUCED HOW MANY COMMITTEE AND THEN HOW MANY COMMITTEE HERE TOP THERE. ANY BEYOND THAT IS JUST GREAT. NO, BUT [02:05:01] DON'T WE WANNA LOOK AT OTHER BILLS THAT WE WANT TO TRY AND HAVE INPUT ON? WELL WE DO. SO SEPARATE YOU MEAN, RIGHT? YES, WE DO. YEAH. AND HAVE THE BILLS WE WANNA SUPPORT BILLS WE WANT TO WRITE AND SUPPORT OR, UM, 14 HOURS OF, SO HERE'S THE DILEMMA I THINK WE FACE ON KPI AND THIS IS WHAT IS MEASURE TO SUCCESS ON THIS. SO HITTING A BILL PASSED IS THE MEASURE OF SUCCESS OR OR KILLING A BILL. YES. THAT SHOULDN'T BE PASSED OR I'M JUST TELLING YOU OR MODIFYING IT. HAVING AN INFLUENCE. CAN WE HAVE AN INFLUENCE, AMEND, AMENDING CORRECT THIS. SO THIS WHERE I WAS HEADING WITH MY EXACT ONE, RIGHT? SO HOW MANY MEMOS, AND YOU TRACK THIS BY THE WAY, HOW MANY MINUTES ARE OR BILL GETTING CHANGED? AND YOU CAN TRACK THAT. SO WE'VE HAD BILL ALL OF THEM. NO, BECAUSE YOU PICK AND SO WE HAD BILLS BRACKETED FOR US, RIGHT? WE GOT BILLS BRACKETED, WE MAKE GOT BILL BRACKETED MEAN, WE, WE GOT ADJUSTMENTS MADE BYER SAY REPS OR SAY SENATOR ABOUT THIS. AND, AND THEN THE BILL REAPPEARS WITH ALL THE CHANGES SO WE CAN TRACK IT. WE TRACK THOUSAND BILLS, WE MAKE MODIFICATIONS OF THE X BILLS, BILLS, GET OFF SOME BILLS, BUT KILL, KILLING, AND YOU KNOW THIS, BUT KILL OFF THE BILLS GETS A MULTI ORGANIZATION POLICY JOB EFFORT. RIGHT. YOU NEED A LOT OF LOBBYISTS ON YOUR SIDE RIGHT. TO HELP YOU KILL A BILL OFF. RIGHT. SO, BUT I THINK WE MAJOR, I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING HOW MANY TIMES WE DO CHANGE A VALVE. YEAH. IT'D BE INTERESTING WHEN, WHEN I WORKED IN AUSTIN, I ALWAYS MEASURED THE INITIAL VERSUS THE END. BECAUSE IF YOU GO DOWN THERE AND YOU SPEND ONE DAY, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT THE FEELING IN THE TEMPERATURE IS OF EVERY SINGLE THING YOU'RE TRYING TO GET DONE. ABOUT AN HOUR. CHANGE THE TEMPERATURE. THAT'S EFFECTIVENESS. BUT HOW DO YOU MEASURE THAT? UM, IT'S, WE HAD WAS CHANGE THE BILL. YEAH. THEY, DID WE GET A BILL CHANGE? DID WE GET A BRACKET LIKE WHEN THEY WANTED TO? UH, I HAVE A LOT OF EXAMPLES, BUT DID WE GET A BILL CHANGE AND THE ANSWER AND MAJOR THAT AS WE SUCCESSFUL? BUT IT'S A GOOD DEBATE TO HAVE. MAYBE NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT WE NEED TO PROBABLY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN MORE DETAIL. SO FOR THIS PURPOSE THOUGH, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE, WE'RE GONNA COMBINE THIS IN, IN WITH 3.1. IS THAT WHAT I, WHAT I THINK WE, YEAH. AS LONG AS WE HIT ALL THESE POINTS. I MEAN, THE REASON WE ENDED UP PUTTING IT IN HERE, AS YOU REMEMBER, WAS 'CAUSE IT WAS DEVELOPMENT RELATED. I KNOW. AND DEVELOPMENT IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE WE'RE FACING. RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO GET A FOCUS. SO I'D, I'D HATE TO LOSE THE EMPHASIS ON THINGS LIKE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS AND JUST SAY PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. BUT YEAH, I DON'T, I MEAN, IF WE CAN COMBINE IT AND BE MORE EFFICIENT, WHY NOT? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S EVERYONE HERE AROUND? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? I, I WOULD SAY MOVE IT TO THREE AND UM, AS I LOOK AT THIS, SO MUCH OF WHAT'S GONNA COME OUTTA THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS GONNA HAVE US FOCUSED ON AUSTIN. YEAH. AND, AND RIGHTLY SO. WE, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUILD THE TEAM TO GO TO AUSTIN AND COMPLETE OUR CASE. UM, SO IF THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. YOU'RE RIGHT. I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT. SO WHEN WE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE DEVELOPED LEGISLATIVE ACTION CALENDAR BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AS WE NOTED TODAY, THEY STARTED FILING THE BILLS, YOU'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE GAME. YEP. YEP. YOU'RE WAY BEHIND THE GAME. SO BY NOW YOU SHOULD HAVE ALREADY MET WITH YOUR LEGISLATOR. YOU SHOULD ALREADY HAVE THE BILL. WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT YOU WANT. SO WE REALLY NEED TO BE PREPARED, UH, MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME. SO, SO WHAT WE DISCUSSED BY THE WAY, IN THE COMMITTEE THERE, BOB, I THINK, THINK WE DISCUSSED THE COMMITTEE WAS THIS KPI IS FOR THE 90TH SESSION. THE CALENDAR REALLY, BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST TWO. IT'S WAY DOWN THIS ROAD THIS YEAR. RIGHT. DID WE NOT TALK ABOUT IT'S REALLY THE NEXT DOWN THIS SESSION AT 80 89 TRUMP SECTION. WE NEED THIS OPEN CALENDAR GET IT COMMITTEE FOR THAT. BUT WE, THIS BILL, THIS ONE, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO JUST WING FOLLOW YOU. YOU'RE RIGHT. TO SIDNEY BROWN'S POINT. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE FIGHTING THE BATTLE RIGHT NOW ON THE 89TH AS AS PRESENTED. AND I WOULD JUST, JUST MAKE LIKE, I THINK I OWE HIM LIKE MY VERSION OF A CALENDAR. MM-HMM. LIKE THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE FORMED AS SOON AS SINAI DAY GOES DOWN WITH NO SPECIAL SESSIONS. THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. RIGHT? OKAY, THEN. YEAH. NO SPECIAL SESSION BECAUSE THE INTERIM, YOU KNOW, THE ANNA INTERIM HEARINGS START WHAT MAY, APRIL. SO WE DISCERN, HUH? I SAID THEY SURE CAN. THEY SURE CAN. SO WE JANUARY, LET'S SAY THE JANUARY, 2026, WE SHOULD BE MEETING ON, ON, ON LEGISL SAY SESSION WHAT WE WANNA GET DONE. AND THEN WE'RE READY TO GO DOWN AUSTIN AND DO THE INTERIM HEARINGS WITH ALL THE BUSINESS BEING DONE. RIGHT. AND WE GET TO TALK TO 'EM [02:10:01] AND THEN WE'RE READY. THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I WAS JUST OF. SO, AND JUST SO EVERYBODY THAT WASN'T IN ON ALL THESE FUN MEETINGS, WE'VE HAD PART OF WHAT WAS SENT TO YOU GUYS THAT ISN'T UP HERE YET, WERE KPIS THAT IDENTIFIED EXACTLY WHAT DAVID'S TALKING ABOUT. ESSENTIALLY LAYING OUT A CALENDAR THAT BY JANUARY 1ST, BY MAY 31ST, AND THEN EVALUATING IT ALL AT THE END OF THE TERM TO SEE HOW OUR SUCCESS WAS. I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT WE, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MARK SHOULD HAVE SENT YOU GUYS IN THE PACKET OF I THINK WE DID. YEAH. WHO'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKET WE RECEIVED FROM MARK THEN? YEAH, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT. YEAH. WE'LL MAKE SURE TO MAKE SURE IT GETS INCLUDED HERE AS WELL. RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEP. ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON 4.2? I, WE'LL MOVE INTO 4.3 SINCE I KNOW LAUREN DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THIS. WE CAN JUST TAKE THIS OUT. . SO WE'RE LEVERAGING THE OPEN SPACE ALLIANCE. GAVE ME THAT ONE, JOHN. THANK YOU. THEY EXCLUDED THE, UH, KPI THAT SAID MEASURE TRAILS FROM LAUREN'S HOUSE TO ROYCE CITY, . SO THEY USUALLY LISTED OUR INITIAL TASK AND WE'VE GOT SOME KPIS LISTED THERE. UM, ANY DISCUSSION, ANY POINTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO ADD TO? NO, I, I LIKE THIS ONE. I'M JUST JOKING WITH LAUREN. SO ONE I WAS UNDERSTAND IS I UNDERSTAND PERCENT GROWTH OF YOU GET INTO YOUR MIC AGAIN, I'M SO SORRY. I I UNDERSTAND PERCENT GROWTH OF LENGTH AND MILES. I GET THAT. I DON'T GET THE ONE ABOVE IT. NEITHER PERCENT OF WHAT GROWTH DON'T WE JUST ELIMINATE THAT AND KEEP MILES. YEAH. HOW MANY MILES WE GET OPEN. CONSISTENT. YEAH. YEAH. JUST MILES IS EASY TO MEASURE. EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT AND I WOULD JUST DO PERCENT GROWTH AND GET RID OF IT. WELL, AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE I THINK WE SENT YOU SOME COMMENTS, UM, ALREADY, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO MEASURE IS THE, IT'S, IT SAYS INITIAL TASK CREATE COUNTYWIDE TRAIL MAP WITH TRAIL CLASSIFICATIONS. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FUNDAMENTAL. BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT MEASURES ACCOMPLISHING THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO WORK WITHIN, IF IN IF IN, I KNOW THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT'S TOO LONG, BUT IF IN FIVE YEARS WE COULD HAVE A FULLY DEVELOPED COUNTY-WIDE TRAIL MAP THAT INCLUDES ALL THE CITIES, THAT WOULD BE HUGE. SO WE GOTTA HAVE SOME POINT, WHICH, WHICH WE MEASURE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT COUNTY-WIDE TRAIL MAP AND IT'S GONNA BE AMENDED AND MODIFIED ALL THE TIME, BUT HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE, 'CAUSE 'CAUSE EVERY CITY IS WORKING ON THIS AND THEY'RE CONSTANTLY REVISING, BUT OUR, WE HAVE TO CONNECT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY SO THAT WE CAN GO FROM KERRY PARK TO ROYCE CITY. SO PERCENTAGE OF TRAIL MAP COMPLETED PERCENTAGE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. DOES THAT CAPTURE COMPLETION OF THE MASTER TRAIL PLAN FOR THE COUNTY? OKAY. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I AND PUT A DATE FOR IT. AND I DON'T KNOW, CINDY, WHAT DO YOU THINK BEEN REASONABLE? IS IT IT FIVE YEARS TOO LONG? I REALLY WANNA HAVE, SO OPEN SPACES HAS BEEN MEETING, UM, ABOUT, ABOUT THE TRAIL MAPS AND WE HAVE MET WITH CITIES AND UM, COMMISSIONER STACY, YOU WERE THERE. AND, UM, THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITIES AND THE EXCITEMENT FOR THE TRAILS, UM, IS WONDERFUL. AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE COULD HAVE THIS DONE IN A YEAR BECAUSE, UM, I AM FOCUSED ON THIS PLAN AND UH, I HAVE THE, THE TRAIL AND PARK MAPS FROM EACH CITY EXCEPT ONE IF YOU CAN GET IT TO FATE, WE CAN GET IT TO ROY'S CITY. YES. YEAH. AND, AND YOU GUYS, THEY ARE A SHINING EXAMPLE OF HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THIS DONE BECAUSE THOSE TWO CITIES MET. YES. AND THEY SAT ROAD TO ROAD AND LOOKED AT HOW ARE WE GONNA CONNECT THIS MM-HMM. AND PULLED IT UP ON THE MAPS AND HAVE MADE IT HAPPEN. AND SO I COMMEND YOU GUYS FOR DOING THAT EXCELLENT JOB. YES. AND WE DID. AND SO WE'RE, WE CAN JUST TAKE THAT EXAMPLE AND MOVE OVER, YOU KNOW, TO THE NEXT CITY. SO I REALLY THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH A, A PLAN ALL ON ONE DOCUMENT THIS YEAR IS MY GOAL. SO IT'S NOT THE TIME HORIZON. IT'S NOT GONNA BE AMBITIOUS. IT'S GOING TO BE ACTIONABLE. YEAH. YOU THINK SO? YEAH. OKAY. CHRIS HAD A COMMENT. ALSO SOMETHING ELSE WE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS MEETING. I SIT AT THE TABLE. SURE. NO, I WAS A PART OF THIS GROUP AT THE LAST KPI MEETING AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THIS COUNTYWIDE TRAIL MAP [02:15:01] WAS HAVING IT TO BE INCLUDED WITH OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN IN THE SAME IDEAL OF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO PLAN OUT THESE, UH, POTENTIAL FUTURE ROADS, THAT IF WE CAN INCORPORATE THE COUNTY TRAIL MAP WITH THAT, THEN WE CAN KNOW, UH, WHAT ROADS ARE GONNA BE AFFECT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHERE THE TRAIL COULD BE AFFECTED BY THE ROAD OR JUST DESIGNATED AS A POTENTIAL. SO THAT IS, YEAH. AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT'S SO IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE OBVIOUS PLACE FOR TRAILS IS ALONGSIDE ROADS. RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE RIGHT. LOOK AT YOUR UTILITY EASEMENTS, ALL YOUR EASEMENTS ASSOCIATED, SO YOU CONNECT THOSE. THAT'S REALLY ESSENTIAL. SO DO WE NEED LIKE A TASK EIGHT? WAIT, SAY THAT AGAIN? YEAH, I MEAN YOU GOTTA INCORPORATE THAT WITH YOUR EASEMENTS, ALL UTILITIES. THAT GIVES YOU A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE THOSE TRIALS CAN BE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT FROM EDWARDS UP TO 2 76 RIGHT THERE ON, ON, UM, WALLACE, IS THAT UTILITY EASEMENT? I MEAN THERE, THAT'S A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS THAT YOU INCORPORATE AND THAT SYSTEM WIDE. SO GET TO THAT MACRO LEVEL ACROSS THE COUNTY IN REGARDS TO HOW LOW ALL ASSOCIATE FROM ROY CITY, THE F THE CLINTON ROCK WALL. IT GIVES YOU A BETTER IDEA. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. AND THOSE EASEMENTS ARE PART OF THE DISCUSSION. UM, AND ALSO THE DISCUSSION HAS BECOME, AS BUILDERS ARE COMING IN AND, AND SUBMITTING THEIR PLANS TO THE CITIES, THEY'VE ALSO HEARD THIS DISCUSSION. AND SO THEY ARE ASKING, HOW CAN WE HELP WHAT PART OF THIS FITS INTO OUR PLAN? AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT PART OF THE PUZZLE DO WE HAVE? AND SO IT IT'S BECOME A BIGGER DISCUSSION. GREAT. ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON 4.3? ALL WE'LL MOVE ON TO 4.4. DEVELOP, ENHANCE STORM RUNOFF AND FLOOD CONTROL STRATEGIES. UM, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF TASKS LISTED THERE AND THEN A COUPLE OF KPIS. ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. YEAH, YEAH. GOOD TO GO. OH, THAT WAS BORING. RIGHT? 4.5 IN COLLABORATION WITH TECH DOTS AND CITIES IDENTIFY MODERN PRACTICES AND TECHNOLOGIES. UM, WE DON'T HAVE A TASK LISTED THERE, BUT WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A KPI ENHANCED TECHNOLOGY PRACTICES IMPLEMENTED BY BUDGETED COUNTY DEPARTMENTS. AND THIS ONE IS VISIONARY, SO IT DOES HAVE THE 15 TO 25 YEAR, UM, PLAN. SO THIS IS ONE WE MAY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON AS WE ESTABLISH AND DEVELOP THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT MORE. YEAH. AND IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT IN HERE, WE SHOULD FLUSH IT OUT. UM, CORRECT. I MEAN THIS IS ONE THAT'S VERY HARD TO DEAL WITH, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, TO ME ANYWAY, MY BRAIN DOESN'T WORK THIS WAY, UH, IN COLLABORATION WITH T AND CITIES IDENTIFY MODERN PRACTICES AND TECHNOLOGIES TO MONITOR, PREDICT AND MANAGE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION PATTERNS. GIVE YOU ONE. SO NO, THAT THAT'S GREAT. BUT WE GOTTA PUT IN TASK. YEAH, BUT WE HAVE IT HERE. WE GOTTA FILL IT OUT WITH YOU. SO A TASK WOULD BE IDENTIFY ALL THE INTERSECTIONS IN ROCKWELL COUNTY THAT USES I WHAT IT WAS CALLED, THE, UM, WHERE IT CHANGES THE LIGHT ON AUTOMATICALLY BASED ON TROPIC GROWTH, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE, I THINK IT'D BE A ZERO RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? WE COULD SAY WE CAN DO, SO WE COULD JUST SAY THAT WE HAVE X AMOUNT OF INTERSECTIONS, RIGHT? WITH LIGHT LIGHTED, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE CAN WE GET TO MORE MODERN TECHNOLOGY OF THE RA LIGHT SIGNAL CHANGING YEAH. , STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THERE, OR WE CAN DO THE NUMBER OF, UM, THE NUMBER OF INTERSECTIONS THAT REQUIRE TECH STOCK TO ADJUST THE SINGLES, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNAL, THE LIGHT, THE TRAFFIC FLOWS, RIGHT? SIGNALS GET OUTTA WHACK, TRUCKS WON'T STOP. WE DON'T MEASURE HOW MANY TIMES THAT HAPPENS. RIGHT. AND YOU COULD DO THAT BECAUSE LIKE IN FAKE I 35, 5 51 I 38, JUST CONSTANTLY ADD SYNC BACK TROPIC UP. I EMAIL DOWN JOHN , JOHN, GO FIX IT. JOHN WILL FIX IT, BUT WE SHOULD MAKE THAT RIGHT. SHOULD SAY, HEY, AT THIS INTERSECTION TEXT 9% OF THE TIME OR X WHATEVER. SO THERE'S WAY WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE ABOUT A NUMBER OF INTERSECTIONS. OKAY. AND THE NUMBER OF TIME WE HAD TO ADJUST THE LIGHT VERSUS AND [02:20:01] CALL MAKE IT TO LIKE DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE HOW MANY, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE YEAR IT'S OUTTA SYNC AND LIKE SOME, IT'S LIKE THE PRODUCTIVITY. YEAH, IT IS. AND AND THERE'S WAY I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO SURE THE CALLING FIRM CAN COME UP WITH SOME BETTER WORDS OF DOING THAT, BUT THERE'S WAY WITHOUT DOING THAT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I WOULD DO THAT. AND THEN ON THE, ON THE OPERATIONAL INITIATIVE AND COLLABORATION, CAN YOU JUST SAY WITH AGENCIES AND THE CITIES, BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT ALWAYS BE TXDOT, UM, JUST TO CLEAN THAT UP. IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL, BUT IT'S JUST NOT ALWAYS TDOT. UM, I, I WOULD THINK AN INITIAL TASK, UH, BACK TO, UH, SOON TO BE COMMISSIONER LICHTY, UM, WOULD BE TO IDENTIFY INEFFICIENCIES IN OUR TRANSPORTATION MODELS. UH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU DO THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE A TASK. WHERE ARE THE INEFFICIENCIES AND CAN YOU SOLVE ANY OF THOSE PROBLEMS? SO YOU, UH, ONE OF THEM HAD THE LIGHT AT 5 48 AND 2 76. IT'S EXTREMELY INEFFICIENT BECAUSE OF HOW IT'S DESIGNED. AND TEXDOT HAS SAID, YES, THIS LIGHT IS EXTREMELY INEFFICIENT AND IT BACKS UP FOR MILES IN EACH DIRECTION. AND THERE'S REASONS FOR THAT INEFFICIENCY. IF WE IDENTIFY THAT INEFFICIENCY, THE COUNTY COULD TECHNICALLY PUT IN MONEY AND MAKE THAT INTERSECTION MORE EFFICIENT. SO, SO WE, SO TEXTILE HAS THAT MEASUREMENT SYSTEM, A, D, C, E AND S YOU CAN GRADE 'EM ALL THE INTERSECTIONS, GRADE THEM AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU ONE TO FIX. AND THEN WAY OF DOING THIS IS DO WHAT WE DO IN FATE IS WE DO THE CENTER ROAD ON CONDITIONAL OF ROWS EVERY YEAR WE IDENTIFY WITH RED, YELLOW, GREEN, WE FOCUS ON THE YELLOWS. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE ALMOST ALL GREEN BECAUSE WE'VE ASKED A MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN MAINTENANCE. BUT IT'S, IT'S A MEASURABLE KPI REPORT. WE DID ACTION AGAINST THAT REPORT, RIGHT? WE COULD EVERY GRADE, EVERY INTERSECTION AND SAY, WE JUST SAY WE'RE GONNA ATTACK ALL THE THESE UP AND WE CAN ATTACKED CERTAIN ONES. AND THAT'S MAJOR POINT. WE KNOW X PER CENTER HAS BEEN APPROVED AT THE TOTAL INTERSECTIONS ARE GRADED. AND THEN, THEN DOES THAT GET TIED INTO THE ROAD CONSORTIUM AND THE THINGS THEY FOCUS ON? RIGHT. IT IT COULD, BUT IT IS ITS OWN OPERATING INITIATIVE AS FAR AS IDENTIFYING SURE. BUT WE'VE GOTTA HAVE SOMEWHERE TO PUT IT. SO THE ROKU STORM IS MORE NEW BUILD WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? SO THE NEW ROKU ARE MAINLY NEW BUILDS, RIGHT? NEW ROADS. UM, RECONSTRUCTION OF ROADS, I THINK JOHN, AREN'T YOU TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, WELL DAVE MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? I MEAN TO TO THE POINT, ALMOST THE ENTIRE SUBSECTION OF S GOAL NUMBER FOUR COULD JUST BE PUT UNDER 4.1 OF JUST WORKING WITH THE CONSORTIUM AND DOING BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE. MM-HMM. . UM, SO I I MEAN, IN A WAY YOU COULD MAKE IT ONE GOAL OR YOU CAN TRY TO DIVIDE IT OUT TO TO TO, BUT, BUT TO YOUR POINT, YES. I THINK IT FALLS BACK ON THE CONCERN, RIGHT? I I WASN'T ASKING SO MUCH TO ADJUST THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE. I WAS JUST ASKING TO UNDERSTAND. 'CAUSE WE GOTTA PUT ALL THESE THINGS INTO POCKETS. AND SO TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO THE STUDIES, WE GET THIS INFORMATION FROM TXDOT, WE FIGURE OUT THE RED, YELLOW, AND GREEN OR WHATEVER INTERSECTIONS TO FOCUS ON, HOWEVER YOU CALL IT. AND THEN SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY GET THE WORK DONE. AND THAT'S, I'M JUST ASKING IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE, BECAUSE IT WOULD, IT WOULD INVOLVE GOING TO THE CITIES AS WELL BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE LIGHTS ARE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND, AND JUST TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT AS A VISIONARY ITEM, IT'S NOT THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD TO IDENTIFY THE WEAKNESSES IN OUR TRANSPORTATION AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN SOLVE ANY OF THOSE PROBLEMS. AND THEN BAKER TILL YOU GUYS HAVE A DATA, DON'T YOU, YOU GUYS CAN PROBABLY PULL ALL THE DATA. MM-HMM. RIGHT? AND TELL EVERY INTERSECTION WHAT IT'S CREATED. YEAH, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, I I'M NOT SURE IF WE'VE DONE THAT FOR ANY COMPARABLE PROJECTS, FOR INSTANCE, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW THERE COLLECT ISSUES, BUT TECH SO DOES DO IT. AT LEAST THEY DID IT ONCE FOR SURE. WE DID THE LIKE COUNTY MONEY. IT'S GOOD. YEAH. WELL, SO, SO WHERE DO WE END UP WITH THIS? WHERE DO WE END UP WITH THIS IF WE'RE GONNA INCLUDE IT? DO WE, DO YOU GUYS HAVE A DIRECTION? WHAT DO YOU WANNA PUT IN NOW TO KIND OF FLESH THIS OUT? DEFINITELY. WE HAVE TAKEN SOME NOTES AND WE'LL NOTATE THIS AND WE'VE TAKEN SOME NOTES AND WE'LL NOTATE HERE. OKAY. WE'LL ALSO LOOK UP SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, POTENTIAL KPIS AS WELL. OKAY, GOOD. FANTASTIC. ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON 4.5? IF I COULD INTERJECT THE POINT AT THIS TIME PLEASE. UM, I WASN'T PART OF THE SMALLER MEETINGS THAT, UH, THE COURT HAD WITH THE BAKER TILLY ON DEVELOPING AND FINALIZING THE OPERATING INITIATIVES. UH, ONE AREA I THINK WE'RE REALLY MISSING IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS WATER SUPPLY INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAMS AND TOOLS. [02:25:01] IT, IT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT AREA THAT THE COUNTY AND, AND OUR CITIES AT A GRASSROOT LEVEL, WE IN COLLABORATION WITH T WHERE WE HAVE TO WORK WITH ROADS. SO IN COLLABORATION WITH NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, OTHER CITIES IN THE REGION, OUR OWN CITIES THAT DO OUR PART TO CREATE BETTER PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT OUR UPCOMING WATER SUPPLY NEEDS BASED ON THIS GROWTH WE'VE GOT AND GREATER PUBLIC AWARENESS OF WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAMS AND TOOLS, WE CAN BE A LEADER, UH, THE, UH, A LEE COUNTY TO WORK WITH THE OTHERS. UH, THIS AREA IS JUST SO IMPORTANT. THE NEXT RESERVOIR IS GONNA BE FURTHER AWAY. IT'S GONNA COST THAT MUCH MORE MONEY. AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS EXTENDING THE AMOUNT OF WATER IN OUR LEGS EVERY SINGLE DAY SO THAT WE CAN USE MORE OF THAT WATER. WE DON'T USE IT TOO QUICKLY. AND IF WE WERE IN A DROUGHT RIGHT NOW, THIS THING WOULD BE UP THERE. UH, AND I, I KNOW YOU'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS, SO I JUST WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN. AND MAYBE IT'S NOT MEANT FOR TODAY. TABLE IT, PICK IT UP AGAIN TOMORROW SO WE CAN FINISH OFF, UM, AT OUR MARK HERE AT FOUR 30. SURE. I BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT IN GOAL NUMBER THREE. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION IN THE LAST WORKSHOP. WE WILL BE COVERING THAT IN TOMORROW'S SESSION. SO ONE OF MY THOUGHTS, UH, GENERAL KULA IS, UM, SO INITIATIVE 4.1, REFINED ROAD STRUCTURE AND MISSION OF THE ROCK WALL ROAD CONSORTIUM WATER IS, IS, IS GOING TO BE, UH, A BIG PART OF THAT. SO ARE WE GONNA, SO THE THING IS TALKING ABOUT LOTS OF STUFF, RIGHT? BUT MAYBE NOT TALK ABOUT IN IN THE OTHER MEETINGS WE NEED TO HAVE. AND YOU MAYBE YOUR POINT IS, I REALLY I'LL OPEN AND HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WATER CONSERVATION REALLY IS BECAUSE LOTS OF STUFF WE TO DO WATER CONSERVATION CORRECTLY, IT'S GONNA TAKE A CULTURAL CHANGE IN THIS COUNTY TO DO IT. RIGHT. I APOLOGIZE. I WAS TALKING, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A CULTURAL CHANGE, RIGHT? BECAUSE TO DO WATER ATION CORRECTLY, IT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH CONVERSATION IN THIS COUNTY IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT RIGHT? WE GET TO YOUR'S POINT, WE HAD TO NO, I AGREE. IT'S A TOUGH CONVERSATION, BUT NO ONE IS POSITIONED BETTER THAN THE COUNTY TO, TO ACTUALLY LEAD AND FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION. WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW IT'S, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU DO RAIN BARRELS FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT? JUST TO THE OPPOSITE, LET WE START DOING THAT, THEN IT TAKES US HOME FEDERAL ASSOCIATION STARTS OBJECTING, BUT YOU'RE ADDING COSTS TO THE HOUSE. SO THERE'S BALANCES IN BETWEEN. SO WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. NOT HERE, BUT SOME, SOME TYPE SOON. YEP. I AGREE. HOLD ON. I THINK THE GENERAL COOLER HAS A GOOD POINT. I, I SEE I'M GOING BACK IN THREE AND I DON'T, I MIGHT, MAY HAVE MISSED THAT. I DON'T SEE, OH, THERE'S THE WATER DISTRICT. YES, WE HAVE I THINK IN 3.2, BUT I THINK THAT'S ABOUT COLLABORATION. UH, LOCAL, REGIONAL AND STATE COLLABORATION. BUT WATER IS DEFINITELY AN INFRASTRUCTURE. IF YOU GO TO 4.6, WHICH IS UP ON THE BOARD, JUST MAKE WATER, PART OF THAT COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR COST ISN'T JUST ROADS. AGREE, AGREE. WELL, LEMME SAY THIS, BUT IS ALSO AS WELL, CERTAINLY WE CAN LEAD AND WE CAN ENCOURAGE, WE ALSO DON'T CONTROL ANYBODY'S WATER. AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT ANYBODY, I HOPE NOBODY'S SUGGESTING WE TAKE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY. LOOK AT THE, LOOK AT THE OPERATING INITIATIVE. I IDENTIFY INVESTMENT MECHANISMS AND FUNDING SOURCES TO SUPPORT COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR COSTS. YOU COULD PUT THE WATER CONVERSATION IN THERE. SURE. UM, WELL, I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T BE INVOLVED AND WE SHOULDN'T LEAVE, BUT WE ALSO GOTTA REMEMBER THAT WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. YEAH. DO WE NOT BEAR ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE COUNTY, BUT THE THE COUNTY, THERE'S THE CITY'S CONTROL. NO, NOT THE CITY, IT'S THE, UH, THE WATER DISTRICTS. SCOTT KNOWS MORE ABOUT THIS NAME, BUT THE CONVERSATION WAS REALLY AROUND LOCAL STUFF WE CAN DO LOCALLY TO YOUR POINT, RIGHT? FOR EXAMPLE, YOU COULD UPDATE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO ADD, YOU GET THAT WATER COLLECT LIKE RAIN BARREL, YOU ADD SOME ALTERNATE RAINWATER COLLECTION TO, UM, TO WATER YOUR LAWN OR PLANTS, RIGHT? THERE'S THINGS CITIES AND COUNTIES CAN DO AT A LOCAL LEVEL, BUT THE QUESTION WILL BECOME SUPER, SUPER PREVENTION OF THE STATE. BUT WE CAN DO THINGS LOCALLY. BUT THOSE, THOSE, THOSE ARE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS. HEY, YOU GOTTA TELL PEOPLE TO CHANGE THEIR WATER HABITS AND YOU KNOW, SO WE, I THINK WE CAN DO LOCALLY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BY DEVELOPMENT, THE MORE I THINK ABOUT THE GENERAL'S COMMENTS, I I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN 4.1 AND LONG JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE REAL CONVERSATIONS CAN HAPPEN IN THE CONSORTIUM, IN SUBCOMMITTEES IN THAT SORT OF ENVIRONMENT. YEAH. IS A, IS A [02:30:01] MUCH BETTER PLACE TO TALK ABOUT CONSERVATION, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND IF WE JUST SO YOU CAN, YOU THINK YOU CAN HAVE TASK AND A KPI TO SUPPORT THAT THOUGH I'M THINKING ABOUT IT. OKAY. BUT IT DOESN'T, 4.1 REALLY ALL ALREADY INCLUDE THAT. I MEAN YEAH, THAT, THAT'S MY POINT. IT'S JUST, WE JUST ACTUALLY SPECIFICALLY MENTION WATER AND PUT IT INTO TASKS AND KPIS ON THE WATER CONVERSATION. BUT IT SAYS A ROCK WALL RAILROAD. NO, IT THE, THE ROAD CONSORTIUM TO EXPAND THE COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WE GOT THIS GENERAL CONCEPT OF DEALING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AS A WHOLE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE WATER. IT'S JUST WE DON'T MAKE MENTION OF WATER, WE DON'T MAKE MENTION OF SCHOOLS, WE DON'T MAKE MENTION OF TRAILS. WE COULD SAY INFRASTRUCTURE 16. YEAH. WE DON'T MENTION ANY OF THEM. YEAH, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT WOULD BE A BETTER SPOT IF WE WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY POINT OUT WATER STRATEGIES. FOUR, 4.1 WOULD BE, UH, A, A SPOT TO PUT IT BECAUSE WE WE'RE NEGLECTING IT. EVERYTHING'S ABOUT ROPES. SCOTT DISCUSS BEHIND AND TO THE GENERAL'S POINT, IT ONLY BECOMES A CRISIS IF WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE FALL AND WINTER WITHOUT RAIN. THAT'S WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT ISSUES WITH WHAT WE'RE RECEIVING FROM, OR TEXAS, BECAUSE ROCKWELL CONTROLS WATER TO HEATH. MCLENNAN IS RCH AND BLACKLAND WATER, ROY CITY HAS ITS OWN TAKE POINT AND FATE HAS ITS OWN TAKE POINT. SO ROCKWELL'S GROWING. IT ONLY BECOMES A CRISIS WHEN YOU'VE GOT PEAK TIMES, MAINLY EARLY SUMMER. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE WHAT RAIN FOR THREE MONTHS. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS ROCKWELL'S SELLING WATER TO THOSE THREE ENTITIES AND GONNA SAY, HEY, WE'RE GETTING THAT CRISIS. AND THAT'S WHEN CONSERVATION COMES. 'CAUSE NORTEX WILL SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING INTO A STATE RESTRICTION AND THAT GETS PUSHED OUT. OKAY. SO THE BIG ISSUE IS AVAILABILITY AT PEAK TIMES AND YOU START LOOKING AT HOW YOU IRRIGATE, YOU IRRIGATING LARGE LOTS AND E IS AN ANOMALY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM TCQ LARGE IRRIGATION, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE WATER'S GOING TO. SO I MEAN THAT'S REALLY THE CONVERSATIONS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S AS MUCH AS INFRASTRUCTURE COME FROM THE NORTH TEXAS THAT FILL THAT 3 MILLION GALLON TANK, THAT SHENANIGANS, THAT'S WHAT CONTROLS ALL THE WATER WITHIN THIS REGION. AND THAT'S YOUR BIGGEST ISSUE RIGHT THERE IS, IS HAVING THAT DISCUSSION. HOW DO WE SOLVE THAT? SO THANK YOU. WE CAN MOVE TO 4.6, OUR LAST ONE FOR TODAY. IDENTIFYING INVESTMENT, THE WATER. WELL, I WOULDN'T, I MEAN IF IT WERE ME, I WOULDN'T MENTION NOTE ALL DUE RESPECT, I WOULDN'T MENTION WATER SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEN WE'VE MENTIONED THE ONE INFRASTRUCTURE ITEM. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER SOLVING . SO LIKE MENTIONING T UH, IN, IN OUR ROAD. SO WE WE LEAVE IT UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUBCOMMITTEES. AND EXACTLY. MY MY POINT WAS WE DO MAKE TDOT WE MENTION COLLABORATION WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES, WHETHER IT'S STATE OR REGIONAL. AND I THINK FOR A 25 YEAR PLAN FOR THIS COUNTY, EVEN THOUGH WE SAY I NORTH TEXAS IS THE PROVIDER TO DIRECTLY TO OUR CITIES, WE ARE EMBRACING THE ENTIRE COUNTY HERE IN OUR CITIES ON KEY GOALS AND OPERATING INITIATIVES. AND IF WE LEAVE WATER OUT OF THERE, WE ARE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFLUENCE THAT AREA WITH THE REGIONAL PROVIDER AND WITH THE CITIES. WHEN I WAS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, I MET WITH COUNTIES ON A ROUTINE BASIS WITH COUNTY JUDGES, WITH COMMISSIONERS, STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND, AND WITH CITIES AND THE COUNTY CAN PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE. IT CAN. WELL, AND NOT JUST THAT, BUT ALSO REMOVAL, RIGHT? I MEAN, AGAIN, REMOVAL, UH, SEWER, ORIGINAL SEWER, WE, WE NEED THAT IN, IN PRECINCT VERY BIG TIME. SO, AND, AND NORTH TEXAS LIKES RECLAIMING WATER. WELL, SHOULDN'T BE. IT SHOULD ALMOST BE, IF IF WE'RE GONNA GO THAT DIRECTION, I WOULD THINK IT ALMOST SHOULD BE AN OPERATING INITIATIVE OF ITSELF. THE ONLY THING I WAS SAYING IS JOHN SAID LET'S MENTION WATER IN 4.1. MY ONLY POINT WAS I WOULDN'T, 'CAUSE WE DON'T MENTION EVERYTHING ELSE IN 4.1. BUT IF YOU WANNA, IF HE, IF YOU THINK WE CAN WRITE AN OPERATING INITIATIVE THAT IS SUCCESSFUL AND HELPS OUR COUNTY, WHY NOT? BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT JUST THROWING 4.1 [02:35:01] SOLVES THE PROBLEM. MAYBE WE DO OPERATING INITIATIVE 4.7. I DON'T KNOW. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AS WELL THAT WE CREATE AN A SEPARATE OPERATING INITIATIVES. THERE'S PLENTY OF KPIS IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FILL OUT ONE FOR THAT. AND YOU, YOU GUYS COULD TELL SAY US WHAT WE COULD PUT IN THERE. UNREASONABLY ACCOMPLISH AS A COUNTY FUNDING SOURCES, DEVELOPERS. I MEAN, WE'RE MEAN WE GOT THE HORTON, YOU KNOW, FIVE INTO BLACK MOON, 35 BEING THAT BUILD OUR TAKE POINT DOWN ON 34 THAT CAN BRING NECESSARY WATER. YEP. IT'S GONNA ALLOW US TO GET OFF A ROCK WALL. THEY NEED OUR 2 MILLION COUNTS BACK. SO IT'S ESSENTIAL. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE TO 4.6? ALL RIGHT. IDENTIFYING INVESTMENT MECHANISMS AND FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'VE GOT THOSE TWO INITIAL TASKS LISTED THERE FOR THE NEXT FIVE TO 15 YEARS AS WELL AS A KPI RECOMMENDED. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP OR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FOR 4.6? I WE JUST CHANGE CREATING A COUNTRY LEVEL TO A COUNTY LEVEL. TAKE COUNTRIES OVER. PEOPLE THINK I'M TRYING TO TAKE OVER ALREADY, SO, OKAY. AND THERE AGAIN, I THINK THAT THAT MARK PROBABLY SENT YOU GUYS SOME STUFF ON THIS. 'CAUSE I GOT A LIST OF THINGS WE WROTE AT OUR MEETING AND SO I'M HOPING YOU GOT SOME OF THAT CORRECT. AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THIS PAGE YET, BUT MANY OF THE IDEAS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT TO US ALSO WILL BE PART OF OUR IMPLEMENTATION ACTION PLAN, RIGHT? THAT WILL BE DURING THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS UHHUH . BECAUSE AGAIN, ON A TIMING BASIS, WE, THIS IS SOMETHING WE GOTTA CONSTANTLY BE REEVALUATING, CONSTANTLY LOOKING CORRECT. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON 4.6? IF NOT, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE GOING TO END FOR TODAY. UM, WHEN WE COME BACK IN THE MORNING, WE HAVE GOALS TWO, THREE, AND FIVE THAT WE'LL COMPLETE, I BELIEVE AT 9:00 AM YEP. SO THANK YOU. AT 4 31, WE'RE GONNA RECESS THE MEETING, WE'LL RECONVENE TOMORROW AT 9:00 AM SEVEN WITH THAT, [*This portion of the meeting was joined in progress*] EACH PERSON AND EACH ENTITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR PRIORITIES BECAUSE IT BECOMES A BLOOD BATH. UH, UH, NO, HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND. SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. HOW DO WE STAY UNIFIED FROM THE POINT OF SUMMER TO THE NEXT SUMMER FROM FROM ONE JUNE TO THE NEXT JUNE? THAT, THAT IS REALLY, I THINK THE KEY. AND WHEN I LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND I LOOK AT THE KPIS, I LOOK AT IT AS SOMETHING SIMPLER BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT. IT IS, DID WE STAY TOGETHER? THAT'S AN ACTUAL MEASURABLE ITEM. DID, DID, DID THIS COULD, COULD WE UNIFY ON 12 IDEAS AND CAN WE STAY TOGETHER BECAUSE THE CITIES ARE GONNA FIGHT FOR CITY STUFF. THE COUNTY'S GONNA FIGHT FOR COUNTY STUFF, UM, STUFF. BUT IF WE WERE TO ESTABLISH A, A ROCKWALL COUNTY-WIDE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, DID WE HANG TOGETHER? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO, THE FIRST TIME WE WILL BE DIVIDED SO FAST. I'M NOT SURE. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M SAY SO WHEN I FIRST, SO AT ONE FOR ROCKWELL COUNTY, JUST BECAUSE I DID, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, RIGHT? SO HERE'S WHAT WE DID IN FAITH. OUR, OUR AGENDA WAS THREE PAGES. NOW IS DOWN TO FOUR. LITERALLY DOWN TO FOUR, RIGHT? SO HERE'S THE QUESTION I THINK FOR THE COMMITTEE FOR US, RIGHT? JOHN, YOU HAVE PERFECT POINT. I UPGRADE THERE. DO WE NARROW TO THINK WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HANG TOGETHER ON WE WHAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HANG TOGETHER ON. WE KNOW WE'LL FIGHT FOR IT. BUT HERE'S WHAT JOHN, HERE'S WHAT THE DILEMMA IS. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. AND THIS'S GONNA BE, I KNOW UPSET, IT'S GONNA UPSET SOME PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET TONIGHT, BUT THERE'S NO PATH FORWARD THAT I CAN FIND IN AUSTIN THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA LOSE SOME OF THE ZONING POWER AND THE STATE. IT'S JUST GONNA BE TO YOUR GOING DOWN YOUR POINT, RIGHT? YES. SO WE ALL WANT LOCAL DECISION MAKING, RIGHT? EVERYBODY LOVES IT. WE SHOULD MAINTAIN IT, LET'S FIGHT FOR [02:40:01] IT. AGREED. THERE WILL BE NO BILL INTRODUCED THAT SAYS MOVE LOCAL POWER. IT'S GONNA BE WHAT HAPPENED TODAY, RIGHT? THE ZONING BILLS WILL COME OUT TODAY. SO LET'S SAY IT ZONING BILLS THAT WAS INTRODUCED SAY THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE MOBILE HOMES AND ALL ZONING CLASSIFICATION OR HU APPROVED HOMES, RIGHT? TO JOHN'S POINT, ARE WE GONNA HANG TOGETHER ON, I'M GONNA MAKE YOUR POINT, RIGHT? YEAH. SO ARE WE GONNA HANG TOGETHER ON THAT? BECAUSE WE DON'T, THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF ZONING AUTHORITY, RIGHT? AND THE, AND THE CITY WILL HAVE LESS, WILL THE CITY START COMPROMISING TO SAVE SOME? SO THIS IS WHERE WE GOTTA, LIKE, WE HAVE A SMALL AGENDA SO WE CAN GENERALLY AGREE TO, WE NEED A COMMITTEE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA COME BACK AND BILL BY BILL AND SAY, WHAT DO WE DO NOW? BECAUSE THINK OUR TENDENCY IS TO, SOME PEOPLE WANT TO SAY, LET'S JUST FIGHT. OKAY, I GET IT. SO IF WE LOSE, WE LOSE EVERYTHING. OKAY. SO IF WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT'S GONNA BILL BY BILL AND THEN SAY, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO NEXT, THEN THAT'S JOHN. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, SO I THINK WE NEED TO ASK MY, MY POINT IS, IS THAT, IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE SUCCESS. I THINK SUCCESS IS THIS COMMITTEE ACTUALLY GETTING THROUGH A SESSION. OKAY. I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW HOW TO DO A-A-A-K-P-I ON THAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S DID WE, DID WE FIND PRIORITIES? I MEAN THAT COULD BE A MEASURABLE, WERE WE ABLE TO PASS A COUNTYWIDE PRIORITY LIST THAT INCLUDED ALL THE CITIES AND ALL THE, AND AND ALL THE GOVERNMENTS? AND IT COULD BE TWO ITEMS, IT COULD BE THREE ITEMS. I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL GONNA GO TO AUSTIN AND FIGHT FOR WHAT WE CAN FIGHT FOR BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE FIGHT IS FOR ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENT. BUT OUR INTERESTS AREN'T ALWAYS 100% ALIGNED. NOT THAT THEY'RE OPPOSED, BUT WHAT BECOMES SUPER IMPORTANT TO A CITY DOESN'T NECESSARILY BECOME SUPER IMPORTANT TO A COUNTY. SO, SO THE NOTES, WE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED THIS, RIGHT? , BOBBY, I THOUGHT WE DISCUSSED MEASURING THE PERCENT OF CITY COUNCIL THAT PASSED IN A COUNTY THAT PASSED THE RESERVATIONS. DID WE NOT DISCUSS THAT? OH, MAYBE YOU DISCUSS IT. SO MAYBE JOHN DID. WE COULD SAY THERE'S HOW MANY? NINE HOW MANY CITIES IN ROCKWELL COUNTY NOW? WELL, 10. 10. OKAY. 10 10 ARE WHO OR PARTIALLY INSIDE ROCKWELL COUNTY? WELL, LET'S SAY WE'VE BEEN SAYING SEVEN. SO LET, LET'S SAY THE FIVE IS LET'S GET RID OF THE PARTIALS BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE THEIR OWN THING. YEAH. LET'S SAY WHO WHOLLY RESIDE IN ROCKWELL COUNTY THERE? FIVE. RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. HOW MANY OF THE FIVE PLUS THE COUNTY PASS AN AGENDA? WE CAN MEASURE THAT. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK ON THE KPIS, MAYBE WE ADD THE NUMBER OF BILLS COHESIVELY PURSUED. THAT'S A GOOD ONE. BECAUSE WE CAN MEASURE THAT. WE, WE CAN MEASURE THAT YOU, YOUR BEST SOURCE IS COMMUN IS COMMUNITIES OF URBAN AFFAIRS. YOU MUST RIDE WITH THEM, PUT ALL YOUR BASKET. BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE THE BILL WITH PARDON? BUT THAT'S WHERE THE BILLS ARE GOING. SO THE BILLS AND THE CENTER ARE GOING THE LOCAL, LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE BY BA COURT OF, AND ALL THE HOUSE BILLS ARE GOING TO BUSINESS AND COMMERCE. I THINK OF COURSE YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THEY GO. RIGHT. BUT YOU MUST FOLLOW I AGREE, THE LEADERSHIP OF URBAN COUNTIES AND MAKE YOUR WISHES KNOWN TO THEM. GET ON JOHN DAY HILLS, UH, AND, AND ADAM'S UH, LIST, UH, THEY CAN SHOW YOU HOW TO TRACK A BILL OR IT WILL POP UP EVERY TIME IT HAS A COMMITTEE MEETING. EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON THAT PARTICULAR BILL, YOU MUST WATCH THAT PARTICULAR BILL ENTIRELY THROUGHOUT ITS CAREER. I AGREE. FRANK. AND SO GO AHEAD. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE WITNESS LIST FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE, RIGHT? TEXAS AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE TEXT ASSOCIATIONS ON TWO DENNIS. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE. I THAT TELLS THE STORY, DOESN'T IT? IT DOES. SO JUST CHECK REAL QUICK. THEY DID NOT GET INVITED AND THEY DID NOT, THEY REGISTERED TO TESTIFY, TESTIFY AND DIDN'T SHOW UP WHO I THINK THE TEXAS URBAN. SO CHECK THE WITNESS LIST, GO TO THE WITNESS, LIKE I KNOW ABOUT THE CITY OFFICE, BUT LOOK, WE SAY WHO DIDN'T TO THIS POINT, THEY'RE NOT GOING. YEAH. THEN THIS IS A PROBLEM. YEP. NO, I, I I AGREE. IT COULD BE THE WRONG, THERE'S SEVERAL COUNTIES ASSOCIATIONS OUT THERE. I GUESS I LEARNED THERE, THERE, THERE, THERE ARE. OKAY. UH, BUT CUC IS IS ONE THAT'S MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH US. TAC IS, UH, JUST, I'M GONNA SAY IT. DON'T SPEND ANY TIME WITH TEXAS ASSOCIATION. THE COUNTY. YEAH. WELL, HE SAID IT MORE BLUNTLY THAN I WAS ABOUT TO. SO YES, . SO I, I WON'T SAY IT. YEAH. THAT, THAT, THAT IS TRUE. BUT BACK TO THE KPI, I THINK TRACKING THE NUMBER OF BUILDS COHESIVELY PURSUED, I I I IS A GOOD METRIC THAT, [02:45:01] THAT WE CAN HAVE. AND THEN IT WILL GET BACK INTO YOUR TRACKING MECHANISM SO THAT, TO JOHN'S POINT, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE STAY TOGETHER ON? AND, AND CAN WE INCREASE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER. THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO, WHICH ARE ALREADY INSTIGATED INTO A BILL TRACKING THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO FOLLOW THAT BILL. AND YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE WITNESS, JUST RECENTLY THEY ALLOWED THAT. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO COME TO A COMMITTEE MEETING THAT YOU COULD SEND IN YOUR WITNESS TO THAT COMMITTEE. SO YOU MUST TAKE NOTE OF THAT AND HAVE YOUR PEOPLE READY TO SUPPORT AND OBJECT TO BILLS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED. OKAY. AND, UH, THE COMMUNITIES OF, OF URBAN AFFAIRS IS, THAT'S THE CUC THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S COUNCIL OF URBAN COUNCIL OF URBAN COUNTIES. WHAT WAS IT CALLED? THE COUNCIL OF URBAN COUNTIES. OKAY. THAT'S IT. CUC, I THOUGHT YOU SAID C COMMUNITIES OF URBAN COUNTIES. C OKAY. YEAH. GOT IT. OKAY. I MEAN, YEAH. GOOD. OKAY. SO I THINK WE DISCUSS ALL OF THIS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE BILL AND WE'RE TAKING IT FROM THERE. AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION IS. BUT I STILL WANNA GO BACK TO MAKING SURE WE HAVE THAT LEGISLATIVE CALENDAR. YES. BECAUSE ALL OF THIS HAS TO HAVE A PLAN AND TO ACHIEVE ANYTHING, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A COALITION. YOU'RE GONNA NEED SOMEONE TO SPONSOR YOUR BILL, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A WHOLE LOT OF WORK BEFORE WE EVER GET TOP LINE. YES. RIGHT. HOLD AND, AND, AND THAT BEGINS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A YEAR IN ADVANCE AND SO BEGINS NOW FOR THE 90TH. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S RIGHT. I WROTE A CALENDAR THIS MORNING FOR MY OWN VOCATION. I SHARE AND I CAN, YES, I DO HAVE AN IDEA HOW WE SHOULD, I CAN SEND IT TO YOU, WHOEVER YOU WANT TO SEND THE DRAFT. WE CAN PICK IT FOR TALK ABOUT, LET'S MOVE ON. YES. THAT WAS PART OF 4.2. WE'LL BE MOVING THAT SPECIFIC TASK OVER TO THIS ONE. YES. YEP. AND WE'VE GOT CINDY. YEAH. WE'LL, CINDY, WE DO HAVE THE CALENDAR ON THERE. 4.2, YOUR, YOUR COMMENT, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT HAVING THE CALENDAR AND GETTING IT STAYING AHEAD IS PART OF 4.2. YEAH. CORRECT. ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S MOVE TO, TO 3.2. WOODY, KAYLA, AND AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER, WE'RE, WE'RE ONE, WE'RE FOCUSING TODAY ON THE KPIS, GETTING A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE TASK SECTION AND MORE ONTO THE KPIS. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. SO ONTO TWO 3.2 HOST ROCK WALL 2050 GROWTH SUMMIT AND WE HAVE SOME, A FEW ENTITIES LISTED THERE. UM, AND SOME TASK AS WELL. UM, WE WANNA TRY TO HOST A GROSS SUMMIT IN FY 25, OR EXCUSE ME, 26 AND ALSO CREATE A PLAYBOOK FOR A AGREED UPON COLLABORATION. AND THE TWO KPIS LISTED THERE, INCREASE PERCENTAGE, INCREASE IN DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AS WELL AS INCREASE IN PERCENTAGE PARTICIPATION FROM THOSE TARGETED ROCKWELL COUNTY STAKEHOLDERS. YOU, YOU, YOU CAN ASK IT. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SAY. I MINUTE I SAID THAT. WELL, I WASN'T GONNA FOCUS ON THAT. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, CAN WE TAKE THE FIRST KPI OFF AND ONLY HAVE THE KPI OF PERCENT INCREASED PARTICIPATION? SURE. I I, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD FOCUS ON DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. I MEAN, MAYBE WE DO, MAYBE WE DON'T, BUT I JUST THINK FROM A COUNTY LEVEL, IT'S JUST ARE WE PARTICIPATING MORE TOGETHER WITH STAKEHOLDERS THAN ARE WE PASSING AGREEMENTS WITH EACH OTHER? YEAH. OKAY. AND I, I DO SUPPORT THAT, JOHN, BUT I, I WANNA ASK YOU A QUESTION AND IT, I DON'T THINK INCREASE IS RIGHT. I JUST THINK MAYBE PERCENT OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS THAT TIES BACK TO THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON HERE AND THAT DOES AFFECT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, SPECIFICALLY OUR, OUR ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. BUT IS THAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? NO, THAT GOES BACK TO NO, I I, NO, I REALIZE NOTHING. IT'S, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL INTERRELATED. BUT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE ABOUT DEVELOPING AND WORKING AND WORKING TO, TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO MEASURE THAT TO KNOW THAT OUR GROWTH SUMMIT WAS GOOD. UM, IF WE HOST A ROCKWALL 2050 GROWTH SUMMIT, IT'S THE PARTICIPATION IN OUR PLAYBOOK AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT MEASURES IT, THAT'S SUCCESSFUL. OKAY. BECAUSE WE COULD GET THERE AND REALIZE THAT WE WANNA [02:50:01] UNDO EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND WRITE NEW ONES WITH ALL THESE ENTITIES. I MEAN, AND THEN IT COULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT AND, AND NOTHING'S CHANGED. I MEAN, OR IF THAT'S JUST, TO ME THAT CAN GET VERY, VERY CONVOLUTED IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MEASURE HOW MANY AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN AGREED UPON FOR DEVELOPMENT. BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE OPPORTUNITY FOR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT I'VE HAD IN TWO YEARS OF BEING ON COURT WITH ANOTHER ENTITY. WE PASSED INTO LOCAL AGREEMENTS, BUT IT'S NOT FOR DEVELOPMENT, IT'S JUST WE AGREE TO THIS OR THIS IS OUR RIGHTS AND ROLES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S A MEASURE FROM A COUNTY STANDPOINT THAT WE BAT DOWN A CITY LEVEL. THEY DO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ALL DAY LONG AND THE SCHOOLS DO, AND THE SCHOOLS DO TOO, BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY DO 'EM WITH US. AND SO, SO THE COUNTY ISN'T INVOLVED IN THAT. SO I JUST THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S NOT A METRIC WE SHOULD MEASURE. THE INCREASE IN PARTICIPATION OF ENTITIES AND STAKEHOLDERS IS SOMETHING WE CAN MEASURE. ARE WE ACTUALLY WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING? OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. NOW, IF YOU WANT MY OPINION ON 3.2, YOU CAN COME TO MY OFFICE AFTER HERE AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. BUT TO MEASURE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF 3.2, I THINK THAT'S A MUCH BETTER OKAY. WAY TO DO IT. AND I WOULD AGREE. OKAY. CAN WE GO BACK TO 3.1 REAL QUICK TO MAKE A CORRECTION? WHERE, WHERE DID YOU SEE THE COMMUNITIES OF PUBLIC? IT WAS OVER ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE. THERE. THERE YOU GO. THE NOTES. IT'S NOT COUNCIL OF URBAN COUNTIES. OKAY. THAT WAS ME. I SAID THAT IT'S COMMUNITIES OF URBAN COUNTIES, SO CORRECT THAT, BUT WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET IT CORRECT. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN NOTED. THANK YOU. THANKS. COMMUNITIES OF URBAN COUNTIES GOT IT. CORRECT. CORRECT. CORRECT. ALL THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? FEEDBACK ON 3.2? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO 3.3. ESTABLISHMENT OF A COUNTY OVERSIGHT AND MANAGEMENT OF INCORPORATED AREA LAND USES, UM, CREATION OF A DESIRED FUTURE LAND USE MATCH. AND THERE ARE SOME INITIAL TASKS WHEN WE RECEIVE THE INFORMATION FROM THE CSC FOR THIS ONE, ALL OF THE TASKS WERE INCLUDED IN KPIS, WHICH WEREN'T KPIS. SO WE MOVED THEM OVER TO THE TASK AREA. AND SO WE WILL WORK WITH YOU ALL TO CREATE SOME KPIS AND WOULD LIKE SOME FEEDBACK ON, UM, MEASURES THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE FITTING FOR THIS SPECIFIC INITIATIVE TO DO IT. JOHN? I, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO YOUR MIC, PLEASE SPEAK. I AM. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA GET MUCH HEADWAY WITH THIS, WITH ONE OF OUR LEGISLATORS DOWN THERE. HE'S ALL PRO, IT'S YOUR LAND. YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH YOUR LAND AND WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN YOUR LAND. WHO'S THAT? BOB? BOB IS NOT GOING TO, BOB IS NOT GONNA SUPPORT THIS. BOB IS 100% FOR THE HOME, FOR THE LANDOWNER TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT HE WANTS WITH HIS LAND BECAUSE IT'S HIS LAND AND WE SHOULDN'T DICTATE TO HIM WHAT THEY CAN DO. I'M JUST FROM WORKING WITH HIM. I'M JUST TELLING CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON THAT? HUH? CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON THAT? GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. SO I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU UP UNTIL WHAT'S SAY UP UNTIL LAST WEEK? MM-HMM. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU UP UNTIL LAST WEEK. OKAY. AND HERE'S WHY I SAY THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY HIS STAFF AND HIM IT MORE AMENABLE TO SOLUTIONS IF HE, HE'S MORE AMENABLE TO SOLUTIONS. IF HE UNDERSTANDS THE IMPACT ON US, LITERALLY IMPACT FEES. SO HE WON'T GIVE ALL IMPACT FEES UNTIL I TALK TO HIM. NOW HE WANTS TIME I MATERIALS FAIR ENOUGH, BY THE WAY. OKAY, GOT IT. WE'RE GONNA WALK AMY THROUGH IT ON THURSDAY. WHY? I THINK WHAT I LEARNED IN THE LAST 14 HOUR SESSION, I WAS SITTING DOWN THERE, IF YOU WALK IN WITH A SPECIFIC SOLUTION, LIKE HERE'S A PROM, HERE'S ACCOUNT. AND I TOLD BOB WAS IF YOU DO THIS, DO THIS. WE'RE RUNNING A 30 MILLION BOND. LITERALLY IF YOU TAKE AWAY IMPACT FEES PERIOD OR 20 WHATEVER IT'S TRYING TO BE, WE'LL RUN A BOND AND WE'RE GONNA POINT IT DOWN. AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT FOR SOME REASON. I DUNNO WHY. NOW HE COULD CHANGE HIS MIND. NOT SAYING NOT, BUT I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, A WINDOW OBVIOUSLY GOING [02:55:01] DOWN THERE AND SAYING, LOOK, A IS MY RIGHT. MAYBE WE HAVE TO TAPE HIM ON THAT ONE. SO, SO WE CAN KEEP ZONING POWER FROM THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY OR ZONING POWER TO THE COUNTIES. I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I JUST, THERE'S A WINDOW HERE FOR SOME REASON I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT. THAT'S DAVID. THAT IS FOR CITIES. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT HIS GENERAL ATTITUDES. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. HIS ATTITUDES TOWARDS CITIES. I I, I AGREE THROUGH DENNIS. I'M JUST, THERE'S OPENING, YOU TAUGHT ME THIS. TAKE FINISH OPENINGS. YEAH. AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN WHAT THE SENATOR WILL DO WHEN THE BILL WAS INTRODUCED LAST SESSION. CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT'S A GOOD INDICATION OF WHERE HE'S GOING. YES. AND I DON'T THINK YOU GAINED ANYTHING WITH REPRESENTATIVE PEARSON. OKAY. SO, AND, AND SHE HAS HER OWN REASONS FOR NOT SUPPORTING ACCOUNT. SO YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO SEEK OTHER SOLUTIONS AND GET OTHER COUNTIES TO REPRESENT YOU AND TO WRITE A PARTICULAR BILL. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. SO COMMISSIONER STACY, BACK TO YOU, YOUR, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT DO IT, DO YOU HAVE OTHER COLOR TO ADD TO THAT? NO, I, I BELIEVE THAT A FUTURE LAND USE MAP OVERLAY OF OUR COUNTY IN RAPID GROWTH IS SUPER, SUPER IMPORTANT AS A GUIDEBOOK. OKAY. AND, AND NOT AS A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY, BUT AS A GUIDEBOOK, WHERE ARE THE HEAT MAPS? WHERE ARE PEOPLE GROW GOING? WHERE ARE THE ROADS? WHERE, WHERE ARE THE WATERS? WHERE, WHERE IS ALL OF THIS STUFF? WHAT DOES MCLENNAN CHISHOLM'S, HOW ARE THEY ZONE CERTAIN AREAS OF THEIR TOWN? IT'S NOT ABOUT US DICTATING WHAT THE LUKE USE IS. IT'S US SEEING ON ONE DOCUMENT WHAT THE PLANNED USE CAN BE. UM, YOU KNOW, I I WANTED IT TO BE A FLUFF PLAN, BUT THOSE ARE COMPLETELY UNENFORCEABLE ON, ON A COUNTY SIDE. SO JUST HAVING SOMETHING THAT HAS IT ALL TOGETHER. SO THE KPI IS COMPLETING IT. MM-HMM. , IT'S, THIS IS A THING, IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE, BUT THIS IS A MAP. SO THAT'S HOW YOU MEASURE IF IT WAS DONE, THAT YOU DO IT, THAT YOU DEVELOP THIS MAP. YES. AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOOD. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. WE'RE TRYING TO COME TOGETHER AND CREATE A, A LAND MAP SO CAN SEE. AND THAT'S KIND OF, I, I THINK AMBITIOUS THAT WE JUST PUT THAT TO BE, I THINK CAUTIOUS. UM, REALLY, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE, WE, THERE'S SO MANY, UM, UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. YEAH. THANK YOU HAVE THAT ONE. WE HAVE ADDED THAT KPI TO OUR LIST HERE. GREAT. ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON 3.3? THANK YOU, JOHN. ALL. LET'S MOVE ON TO 3.4. THIS IS CREATING A ROCKWELL COUNTY CAN MAKE A COMMENT REAL QUICK. YEAH. OKAY. SO I THINK, CAN I KNOW WHAT JOB? CAN YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF, SIR? I'M SCOTT MUCKER, UM, WITH THE I ROCK FOREST CITY, ISD AND THEN, UH, DENTAL MANAGER AT BLACKLAND WATER. SO, UM, THIS IS A ROADMAP FOR NOT JUST TODAY, BUT 20 YEARS FROM NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, AT THE ISD LEVEL, WE, WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT 10, 15, 20 YEARS. SO WHERE WE SHOULD COMES AND GOES, RIGHT? SO THIS IS REALLY FOR NOT JUST TODAY, BUT THOSE THAT WILL PROCEED US. SO COME AFTER US. SO MAKE YOU PICK UP THAT DOCUMENT, HAVE AN IDEA OF, OF LAND USE, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND, AND THEY DEVELOP THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S OUR GUIDEBOOK IN REGARDS TO MOVING FORWARD. AND SO I THINK IN REGARDS TO THE STAKEHOLDERS, IT'S GONNA BE VERY ESSENTIAL. WE HAVE 4,000 ACRES BETWEEN EDWARDS AND 5 48 TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. NOT JUST FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT. WE KNOW WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTIES, WE KNOW WHAT'S POTENTIALLY IS COMING, BUT WHAT DO WE DO AS A COUNTY TO ENSURE THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, WE WANT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. DOES THAT PERTAIN TO HOW WE WANT THIS COUNTY TO GROW AND PROGRESS? THEY HAVE A LOOP IMPACTS, ET CETERA. MM-HMM. . AND SO FROM AN ISD STANDPOINT, BRINGING THOSE [03:00:01] STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER, THAT'S THE, THE KEY ELEMENT TO HOW WE DRIVE THE SUCCESS OF THIS. AND SO NORTH TEXAS TDO, I MEAN, JUST IN THE TIME I'VE BEEN AT PLATINUM WATER, I'M ON ZOOM MEETINGS EVERY MONTH AT TDOT IN REGARDS TO RELOCATIONS. UM, NORTH TEXAS IS ABOUT OUR NEW TAKE POINT ON 34 DEVELOPERS IN REGARDS TO BRINGING THE FUNDING NECESSARY TO DO THOSE THINGS. AND SO, I MEAN, I THINK OUR SUCCESS, AND YOU GO BACK TO DETERMINING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THERE, I THINK THERE IS AN ELEMENT THERE. ANY UNINCORPORATED MM-HMM. , WHERE DID WILDWOOD COME FROM? AND I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH COMMISSIONER BAILEY THREE YEARS AGO ON THAT AND HOW THAT ALL DEVELOPED FROM WATER STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, CAPACITY, ET CETERA. MM-HMM. . SO IF WE, IF WE GO TO THAT NEXT LEVEL, IT'S KEY THAT YOU PUT THESE THINGS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT EVERYBODY HERE AT SOME POINT'S NOT GONNA BE HERE. AND, AND WHEN WE HAND THAT OFF, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE A GUIDE FOR THOSE THAT ARE COMING IN TO, TO DETERMINE WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S PORT, IF YOU GO BACK TO THREE, TWO, I THINK THERE IS A MAYBE A, A DETERMINE THE SUCCESS OF THE NEW SUBDIVISIONS ORDINANCES, WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN PLACE. YEAH. WHICH IS WHY I SAID THE INCREASED PARTICIPATION BETWEEN THE ENTITIES AND STAKEHOLDERS. IT'S THE PARTICIPATION I THINK IS MORE OF THE KPI BECAUSE THOSE THINGS WILL COME OUT OF THAT. BUT IF WE'RE JUST MEASURING, THAT'S AGREEMENTS, THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST MEASURE OF PARTICIPATION. RIGHT? YEP. SO THAT WAS KIND OF MY POINT ON THAT. SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WILL ALLOW US TO APPORTION GREATER AMOUNTS. IF YOU DON'T THAT'S TRUE. YOUR APPORTIONMENT IS GONNA GO UP BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING OUT, RIGHT. SO YOU, AND WE HAVE THAT AS ONE OF THE TASKS AND WE DIDN'T REALLY PUT A KPI THAT REALLY SUPPORTS THAT. I MEAN, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE, WELL, WE'LL GOING BACK TO 3.2, BUT ONE OF THE TASKS IS TO CREATE COLLABORATION POINTS WITH THE AGREEMENT ON ENFORCE. ONCE I GET INVOLVED, I MEAN, WE, WE NEED TO KPI I TO SEE WHETHER YOU, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON 3.2 OR 3.3? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE TO 3.4 AND THAT IS CREATING A ROCKWELL COUNTY ALLIANCE BETWEEN THOSE ENTITIES THAT YOU LIST LISTED THERE, THE INITIAL TASK IS TO CREATE A CHARTER AND COMMON GOALS FOR THAT GROUP. AND THEN THE KPI IS PARTICIPATION OF MEMBER ENTITIES THAT PARTICIPATE IN THIS ALLIANCE. ANY FEEDBACK ON THIS? SO WE WE'RE, UH, JUST ORGANICALLY DOING THIS AL ALREADY AND HAVE BEEN FOR A LITTLE WHILE. UM, MY ONLY QUESTION IS THE CREATION OF A CHARTER CHART. YEAH. IS THAT, I JUST THINK WE JUST, YOU YOU WANT THE SET OF RULES AND WHAT YEAH. WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. SET OF RULES, BYLAWS, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU CALL IT. JUST I GET IT. JUST RENAME IT. OKAY. YEAH. CHARTER, MAYBE THAT, WHATEVER, JUST CALL IT SOMETHING. PURPOSE STATEMENT. AN AGREEMENT LAUREN WAS HERE WOULD BE A PURPOSE STATEMENT BY THE WAY. SO CREATION OF BYLAWS AND GUIDELINES. YEAH. IS THAT BETTER PHRASE, STATEMENT, WHATEVER. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. GOT WHOOPS. GUIDELINES WOULD BE BE GOOD. GREAT. ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE TO 3.5. CONDUCTING A STUDY TO IDENTIFY COMPATIBLE LAND USE AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT GUIDELINES. WE HAVE THREE, UM, INITIAL TESTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE COMMUNITY GROUP GROUP AND THEN THE KPI PERCENTAGE OF COMPATIBLE LAND USE GROWTH MANAGEMENT GUIDELINES ADOPTED AND LEVERAGED. ANY FEEDBACK OR DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? I JUST THINK WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF DISCUSSION AROUND THIS ONE. I MEAN, LOTS OF STUFF WE DISCUSSED, SO, AND UNLESS, UNLESS WE HAVE ADDITIONAL, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NOTES FROM THE OTHER COMMENTS GONNA BE TRACK. YEAH. ALRIGHT. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR LAST ONE IN THIS GOAL, WHICH IS ESTABLISHING A STRONG AND TRUSTED RELATIONSHIP WITH THOSE ENTITIES LISTED THERE. I I WOULD ADD ONE TO THIS TO 3.6. YEAH. OKAY. IN HONOR OF DENNIS THE COMMITTEE THE COMMITTEE EVER. ? I AGREE. YEAH, I WOULD ADD THAT. YEAH, I WOULD ADD THEM TO THIS LIST. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? DID THE CUC, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT FOR US PLEASE? I HAVE STRONG AND TRUSTED RELATIONSHIPS. [03:05:01] WE HAVE FAITH, NOT, NOT WEAK AND DISHONEST RELATIONSHIPS. WE NEED A STRONG AND TRUSTED, WE HAVE FAITH AT LEAST FOR AN HOUR. . YEAH, I WOULD JUST DO IT BECAUSE DENNIS IS RIGHT ABOUT TOUCHING BASES. YOU GOT TO AT LEAST TOUCH THE BASE IF YOU DON'T LIKE 'EM, GREAT. WE CAN MOVE ON, BUT YOU HAVE TO HIT THAT BASE. SO ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THIS ONE? NOPE JUDGE, THE SPIRIT OF THE RELATIONSHIP I HAVE TO LEAVE TO A NORTH DOES COMMISSION MEETING. UM, CAN I JUST MAKE A POINT, UM, IN REGARDS TO 3.6 AS FAR AS THE, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE OPERATING INITIATIVES KPIS, BUT YOU KNOW, SINCE WE ARE PUTTING IN UM, ADDING CUC TO THIS, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND ADD TAC NOT BECAUSE OF THE, NOT BECAUSE OF THE LEGISLATIVE SUPPORT, BUT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE PART OF ROCKWELL COUNTY THAT DO USE TAC DAILY AND, AND THEIR ROLE INVOLVED IN TAC AND I DON'T, THIS IS COUNTYWIDE. I WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO THAT AS WELL. AND WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE GROUP? TAC. JUST PUT TAC ASSOCIATION ACCOUNT. YEP. I AGREE WITH THAT. THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU DAVID. THANK YOU. YOU GOING TO DAVID? SO TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES? YES MA'AM. YES, CORRECT. ALRIGHT, THAT WRAPS UP 3.6. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON GOAL NUMBER THREE? I THINK WE'RE GOOD FOR THE SAKE OF ORDER, LET'S, CAN WE JUMP TO GO FIVE? YEP. PAGE 47 OF YOUR PACKETS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO GOAL NUMBER FIVE. YES, I KNOW IT'S CRAZY. AND CHIP, SHE'LL GET BACK. . I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS JUMPING AROUND AND AND FIGHTING WITH YOUR A. ALRIGHT, DANA, ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? UM, ACTUALLY I'M GONNA, MATT WAS GOING TO WORK ON THIS ON THAT. ARE YOU READY? MATT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH WRITING THIS. OKAY. THERE ARE FIVE OPERATING INITIATIVES FOR STRATEGIC GOLD. NUMBER FIVE, FOSTERING ECONOMIC GROWTH WHILE PRESERVING AND PROTECTING LOCAL CULTURE AND TRADITIONS. 5.1. CREATE AN INTEGRATED COUNTY CITY ECONOMIC EFFORT AND COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSORTIUM. FIVE TWO. CONDUCT A TOURISM STUDY TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO USE THE COUNTY'S HISTORICAL ASSETS, CULTURAL PROGRAMS AND RECREATION INDUSTRIES. FIVE THREE. ESTABLISH A COUNTY REAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO DESIGN, MONITOR AND PROCESS. UM, SORRY, DESIGN TO DESIGN. MONITOR THE PROCESS AND GUIDE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. FIVE. FOUR. CONDUCT AN IMPACT STUDY INCLUDING A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. 5.5. EVALUATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COUNTY AND OR PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO MAINTAIN OPEN SPACES, WE'LL MOVE INTO 5.1, CREATE AN INTEGRATED COUNTY CITY ECONOMIC EFFORT AND COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSORTIUM TO PURSUE INNOVATIVE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES. THE INITIAL TASKS WE HAVE LISTED HERE WERE TO ESTABLISH THE CITY COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSORTIUM. NOT NECESSARILY THAT IT'D BE CALLED THE LANGUAGE WE HAVE LISTED THERE, BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S THE INITIAL TASK OF CREATING THAT ENTITY. AND THEN THE KPIS WE HAVE LISTED HERE, WERE TO TRACK SOME SIMILAR CENSUS DATA THAT ARE COMMON FOR THIS TYPE OF ENTITY. UM, HOUSEHOLD INCOMES, WORKING AGE POPULATION, POVERTY RATES, EMPLOYMENT RATES, LABOR FORCE PARTICIPATION. TO LIST A FEW, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH REGARD TO THE TASK AND KPIS FOR INITIATIVE FIVE, ONE, FOR THE SAKE OF EVERYONE'S TIME AND OUT OF RESPECT OF EVERYONE'S TIME, I DO NOT THINK THE COUNTY HAS ANY ROLE IN DOING ANYTHING LIKE THIS. I THINK CITIES CAN DO IT. I THINK THAT WE CAN HAVE CITIES MEETING AND TALKING TO EACH OTHER. I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF A COUNTY GOVERNMENT'S JOB. UM, AND YOU'RE JUST NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE. SO I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND BELABOR MY POINT. I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS A HARD NO FOR ME. I DON'T AGREE WITH ANYTHING ON 5.1. CAN I ASK, UH, [03:10:01] ACTUALLY, I AGREE. UH, I THINK THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, IS TO DEVELOP THAT CONSORTIUM AMONG COLLEAGUES OF MINE IN THE VARIOUS CITIES WHO HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. WHAT I FIND IS, IS THAT WHEN WE GET TOGETHER, WE SOLVE PROBLEMS AND WE, WE FIND EFFORTS THAT CAN WORK TOGETHER AND, AND ACTUALLY EVERYBODY, IT'S NOT COMPETITION. YEAH. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PLANO VERSUS FRISCO. THOSE GUYS GET INTO BATTLES DAILY HERE AT ROCKWELL COUNTY. WE ALL GET ALONG, BUT WE DON'T GET TOGETHER ON A, A MONTHLY BASIS OR QUARTERLY BASIS. AND I THINK, I DO THINK IT'S THE COUNTY'S ROLE TO, UH, PUT THAT TOGETHER AND TO ENCOURAGE THE FEEDBACK AND THEN FEEDBACK AMONG, AMONGST THE COURT. AND THEN THAT WAY THE FEEDBACK CAN TRICKLE BACK TO COUNCILS AND THEN WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. SO THESE KPIS, THESE ARE VERY EASY BECAUSE THESE ARE PUBLISHED. YEAH. AND I MADE IT VERY SIMPLE AND I DID FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS, WHICH WERE EASY TO ACCOMPLISH AND TRACKABLE. THIS IS ALL CENSUS DATA. IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE A FULL-TIME INDIVIDUAL TO DO THIS. UM, ME, MYSELF, I CAN PUT THIS, THIS CONSORTIUM TOGETHER IN A MONTH AND IN FOUR, IT'S JUST THE COUNTY'S INVOLVEMENT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS SOMETHING I'M ADAMANT LEANING AGAINST. OKAY. SO DEFINE, DEFINE THAT FOR ME, WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE RULE, OUR INVESTMENT. SURE. YEAH. IN ANY PROJECT, YEAH. I WOULD BE, I WOULD THROW A FIT. YEAH. OKAY. ON THE DICE. JOHN, CAN I, CAN I, UH, YEAH. MENTION THAT WE WERE A PARTICIPANT FOR THE, UM, WE GAVE A, A TAX ABATEMENT FOR THE, UM, ROCKIES DOWN ON THE, UH, ROCKWELL, EDC ROCK ROCKWELL, WHAT WAS IT CALLED? E-D-C-E-D-C. HUH? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EDC? NO, THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHERE THE HILTON IS. OH, THAT, OKAY. UM, HARBOR, WE GAVE AN ABATEMENT FOR, GAVE AN ABATEMENT YEAH. FOR THIS, FOR THE HARBOR. RIGHT. UH, WHICH IS SOMETHING I WOULD BE COMPLETELY AGAINST IF IT CAME BACK. I UNDER I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU HISTORICALLY THAT WE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THAT. BUT I, I AGREE WITH YOU. OKAY. SO, UH, MY WOULDN'T THIS FALL UNDER THE COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE ROAD CONSORTIUM TO AN INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORTIUM, AND, AND ONE OF THE TASKS THERE WAS TO CREATE SUBCOMMITTEES. WOULDN'T THIS TUCK NEATLY UNDERNEATH? POTENTIALLY. IT, IT COULD REMEMBER ALL OF GOAL FIVE IS SORT OF THE CONGLOMERATION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TOURISM, AND HISTORICAL PRESERVATION. SO A LOT GOES INTO GOAL NUMBER FIVE, OPEN SPACES, HISTORIC. YEAH. PRESERVATION, SPACE PRESERVATION. ALL OF THAT GOES INTO HERE. AND MY GROUP HAD A HARD TIME PULLING OUT, DIFFERENTIATING ITSELF FROM ALL THESE OTHERS, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THIS IN A FEW MINUTES ON SOME OF THESE THAT TIE INTO, IN GOAL THREE, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOURISM RUNS THROUGH ALL OF THIS STUFF. AND YOU JUST CAN'T, YOU CAN'T SET UP GOALS ON THEIR OWN THAT DON'T RELATE. SO, JUDGE YOUR POINT THERE IS YEAH, IT DOES. BUT I THINK THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS AREN'T FOCUSING AS MUCH ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO SHOULD THOSE GROUPS AND COMMITTEES COOPERATE, AND LET'S BE HONEST, THE SAME PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATE IN A LOT OF THINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, SAME, SAME, SAME COMMITTEE. I SEE A LOT. I SEE A LOT OF YOU AT A LOT OF PLACES THAT I'M INVOLVED. THAT'S RIGHT. SAME TIER WANTS AND YOU VOLUNTEER. CORRECT. CORRECT. I, I MEAN, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. THE KPIS ARE GREAT. THEY'RE EASY. UM, I THINK THE ENTIRE GOAL OF THIS IS JUST TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENTITIES ARE TALKING TO EACH OTHER. MM-HMM. . AND SO THE COUNTY'S ROLE ON THAT IS JUST FACILITATION OF, IT'S NOT GETTING DEEPLY INVOLVED IN TAX ABATEMENTS AND, AND OTHER THINGS. CORRECT. IT IS JUST FACILITATION OF THIS SO THAT IF A DEAL COMES TO ROCKWELL AND IT DOESN'T FIT, MAYBE IT FITS FATE, MAYBE IT FITS TROY CITY, WE DON'T LOSE THE DEAL IN THE COUNTY. WELL, SURE. AND THOSE BEEN, ALL THOSE THINGS BENEFIT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE COUNTY, AND CORRECT. AND THEN OF COURSE CREATES ISSUES FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, FOR TRAFFIC, FOR A NUMBER, NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK WHERE THIS CAN REALLY BENEFIT EVERYONE IS WHERE A PROJECT COMES TO THE COUNTY. AND WE'RE, WE'RE NOT COMPETING AGAINST THE NEXT CITY OVER, WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST NORTH CAROLINA AND GEORGIA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT COMES TO US AND IT'S HAS, YOU KNOW, IT HAS AN OFFICE COMPONENT IN ROCKWALL. IT HAS A MANUFACTURING COMPONENT IN ROYCE CITY. IT HAS AN R AND D COMPONENT IN FATE. ALL THOSE THINGS WORK TOGETHER. AND WE ALL HAVE TO COOPERATE BECAUSE THE COMPANY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR BORDERS. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT WHOSE JURISDICTION IS WHAT THEY SAY, OKAY, WELL, OVER THERE IN MACON COUNTY, GEORGIA, THEY'RE OFFERING ME X WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN. Y IS ROCKWELL COUNTY A BETTER SPOT? AND IF I GO, WELL, IF YOU MOVE 38 FEET THAT DIRECTION, YOU'RE ACTUALLY IN A DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITY. THEY DON'T CARE. SO WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. AND THEN IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT COME UP, SAY, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE RO THE ROY CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT. NOW I'M, I'M TALKING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. THE NORTH, NORTH TEXAS, MUNICIPAL [03:15:01] WATER DISTRICT, WHATEVER IT IS. THEN THOSE THINGS CAN BE PRESENTED, AND THEN THE PROBLEMS SHOULD BE CALLED OUT AND POTENTIALLY FIXED OR AVOIDED. AND MAYBE THE, MAYBE THE ANSWER IS THAT PROJECT THAT, THAT MADE UP PROJECT THAT I JUST DESCRIBED IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF LARGELY. AND THE ANSWER NEEDS TO BE, HEY, Y'ALL CAN COME HERE, BUT IT'S GONNA BE AN UPHILL BATTLE. INTERESTING. YEAH. I HAVE A, I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION. I AGREE WITH JOHN, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S MY 18TH YEAR BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. FOR THE SIX YEARS I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL, WE HAD TWO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AT EVERY ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, EVERY ONE OF THE EDC MEETINGS, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE. SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WE HAVEN'T HAD REPRESENTATIVES AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS AT ALL. WHY? 'CAUSE YOU CAN TALK TO THE EDC AND THEY CAN GIVE YOU GENERAL INFORMATION AND YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, AND YOU CAN TALK TO THESE PEOPLE, BUT WE NEVER DO. THERE'S THE LACK RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THE PART THAT YOU NEED TO FILL IN INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DO THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY CONNECTED WITH THEM. THAT'S TRUE. BUT YOU'RE JUST TALKING OUR, THE, THE ROCK BALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT OUT WAY BEFORE THIS, THIS, THIS PLAN IS FINALIZED. I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE CONSORTIUM TYPE OF FACILITATING WITH THE OTHER, WITH THE OTHER CITIES AS WELL THAT DO HAVE, I MEAN, UM, FAITH HAS, UH, FAITH HAS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP, REALLY. CITY PETE DOES, ROY CITY DOES ORDEN. I DUNNO REALLY WHERE THAT ONE'S AT RIGHT NOW. SO, ANYWAY, AND, AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S THEIR FEELING ABOUT THIS? THE OTHER EDCS? THEY, THE ONES I'VE TALKED TO, I HAVEN'T TALKED WITH ALL OF THEM, BUT ON THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF IT. OKAY. THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE AND PARTICIPATE, BE A PARTICIPANT. DO THEY UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF THE COUNTY AND WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO? OH, I THINK SO. I MEAN, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. I, I WOULD EXPLAIN THAT TO THEM. IN MEETING NUMBER ONE. YES. BUT I THINK, BUT BACK TO WHAT HAM WAS SAYING, WHO, SO WE GET BACK TO THAT, THE UNINCORPORATED, AND THERE'S POTENTIALLY A NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR THAT'S GONNA COME AND WHO'S GONNA NAVIGATE IN REGARDS TO WHAT ENTITIES, CORPORATION, POTENTIALLY THAT COULD COME TO ROCKWELL COUNTY. THAT'S A REALITY. AND WHO, WHO FACILITATES WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN THAT DISCUSSION? I MEAN, YOU, YOU COULD HAVE, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT GEORGE BUSH, LOOK AT, UH, NORTH DALLAS TOLLY, AND I KNOW THAT WAS CITY OF FRISCO, ET CETERA, BUT THERE WAS SOMEBODY THERE TO ACTUALLY NAVIGATE WHAT THAT LOOK LIKE. AND I THINK THAT'S, I MEAN, I, IN MY MIND, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMEBODY ENGAGED THAT UNDERSTANDS WHAT THAT IS. BECAUSE WHEN WE GET TO A MULTIPURPOSE CONVENTION CENTER, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL A REGARDS TO COLLABORATIONS. RIGHT. AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND IT'S NOT, IN MY MIND, IT MAY NOT BE IN THE CITY LIMIT. SO THAT, THAT IS REALITY TO CONSIDER. YEAH. AND, AND SO THAT'S IMPORTANT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS, WE HAVE A SALES TAX THAT IS ALLOWED FOR THE COUNTY TO ADMINISTER AS OF A CERTAIN DATE THAT IT WAS DRAWN. AND SO THE CITIES ARE GONNA HAVE TO HONOR THAT AND TAKE A HALF CENT LESS WHEN THEY COME TO DEVELOPING IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS. AND SO IT'S GONNA AFFECT THESE MUNICIPALITIES. THE, THE, THE CASE AT POINT WAS, UH, FATE CAME TO US AND SAID, HEY, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE SOME RELIEF HERE. OUR ENTIRE, UH, MUNICIPALITY IS DEVELOPED AROUND THE I AUTHORITY I 30 CORRIDOR. AND YOU'VE GOTTA GIVE THAT PROPERTY BACK TO, UH, THE TAXING AUTHORITY FOR FAILURE. AND WE DID. AND SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA AFFECT THESE MUNICIPALITIES WHEN THE LAWS, I MEAN THE, THE BOUNDARIES HAVE BEEN DRAWN AND, AND I NEED TO GET WITH, UH, UH, KNICKERBOCKER. YEAH. AND, AND, UH, AND WORK THOSE THINGS OUT AND, AND START THAT PROCESS BECAUSE, [03:20:01] UH, UH, JOHN, UH, UH, WHO WAS OUR FORMER, UM, I'M SORRY, I I HAVING DIFFICULTIES. WELL, I THINK THAT'LL ALSO SUPPORT THIS, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ALSO, IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING A LITTLE BIT. DON'T YOU THINK THERE'LL BE SOME SUPPORT FOR THAT? THAT'LL KIND OF TIE IN WITH EACH OTHER. YEAH. BUT, BUT, BUT THE, THE COUNTY DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR TAXING AUTHORITY NO. THAT THEY HAVE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. OKAY. UH, AND SO, UH, IT, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A SMART MOVE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT INTO THE REVENUES THAT COMES TO THE COUNTY. SO TO TRY TO GET US OFF HIGH SENTENCE. YES. 5.1. I THINK THE KPIS ARE GOOD DATA DRIVEN. I THINK THEY'RE EASILY TRACKABLE. UH, AND I THINK RE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER TO WHAT LEVEL THE COUNTY IS INVOLVED, WHETHER IT'S JUST FACILITATING OR ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING THE, THE JOHN'S, RIGHT, THE DAAS WILL, WILL DECIDE THAT. MM-HMM, . BUT TRACKING THIS DATA IS, IS GOOD THERE, THERE'S NO DOWNSIDE TO EVERYBODY HAVING THIS UPDATED DATA AND WORKING FROM THE SAME DATA POINTS. OKAY. GREAT. MM-HMM. , THANK YOU. 5.2 READS, CONDUCT A TOURISM STUDY TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO USE THE COUNTY'S HISTORICAL ASSETS, CULTURAL PROGRAMS, AND RECREATION INDUSTRIES AS KEY ECONOMIC DRIVERS. MM-HMM. , THE INITIAL TASK IS THE TOURISM STUDY ITSELF. AND THE KPIS ARE THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN CULTURE AND RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS, CHANGE IN ATHLETIC AND OTHER MAJOR EVENT ATTENDANCE. UH, NUMBER OF MAJOR EVENTS OR CONFERENCES IN THE COUNTY, NUMBER OF HOTEL NIGHTS WITHIN THE COUNTY IN THAT TOURISM, UH, VEIN. AND THEN PERCENTAGE CHANGE IN HOTEL OCCUPANCY. UH, WE HAVE AN ADDITION OF AVAYA, THE STAR REPORT, WHICH SHARED WITH US THOUGHTS ON THE KPIS FOR THIS INITIATIVE. YEAH, I MEAN, THIS ONE, THIS IS THE TOURIST SIDE. THIS IS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TYPE STUFF. UM, YOU KNOW, DARBY PROVIDED A LOT OF FEEDBACK. THESE KPIS VERY SIMILAR. UM, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO TRACK BECAUSE IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMUNICATION WITH INDIVIDUALS AND SURVEYS, BUT IT'S, IT'S ATTAINABLE. AGAIN, IT DOESN'T, THIS IS NOT A, UM, INITIATIVE FOR THE COUNTY TO SPEND ANYTHING. IT'S REALLY, IT'S COOPERATION AMONG THE, THE CHAMBERS AND, AND THE COUNTY. AND IT'S A WAY TO PROMOTE, YOU KNOW, HISTORIC ASSETS, TOURISM, AND, AND A LOT OF THAT IS ATHLETICS IN ROCKWALL COUNTY. AND SO IT'S, THESE ARE ALL PERCENT CHANGES BECAUSE WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT HOW THESE THINGS INCREASE OR DECREASE, AND THEN THAT INFORMATION IS SHARED. AND THEN FROM THAT, SOMETHING CAN BE ESTABLISHED. AND THAT COULD BE, HEY, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL AND WE NEED TO CHECK THIS, CHECK THIS OUT. WE'RE LOSING, FOR EXAMPLE, THESE CONVENTIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING, OR WE'VE MISSED OUT ON CONVENTIONS BECAUSE OF A DEFICIENCY HERE. WHAT COULD WE DO TO CAPTURE THAT? IF WE HAD THAT, WHAT WOULD THAT DO FOR THE CITIES, THE COUNTIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND EVERYBODY ELSE, EVERY OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. OKAY. CHANGE THE SLIDES QUICKLY. . ALL RIGHTY. WELL, YOU CAN, OKAY, GO BACK. 5.3 READS, ESTABLISH A COUNTY REAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO DESIGN, MONITOR THE PRO, UH, THE PROCESS AND GUIDE, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BY ALIGNING POLICY STATUTES, ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS. APOLOGIES, I READ THAT. LITTLE SKEWED. THE INITIAL TASKS ARE TO ESTABLISH THE REAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT TEAM. AND THEN THE KPIS. READ A PERCENTAGE OF CURRENT LAND USE TRACKING, PERCENTAGE OF UNDEVELOPED LAND TRACKING, PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL AND AGRICULTURE. SO THOSE CATEGORIES, REGULATED VERSUS UNREGULATED DEVELOPMENT, CITY AND COUNTY, OR CITY VERSUS COUNTY. AND THEN A RATIO OF RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY VALUES. UM, VIA THE RCAD. THESE ARE THE KPIS WE HAVE LISTED. THOUGHTS, DISCUSSION AROUND THIS. KPI. YEAH. SO THIS IS THE ONE WHERE I STRUGGLED BECAUSE I FELT LIKE 3.3 IS THE SAME THING HERE. IT'S THE SAME IDEA, IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT. UM, I THINK, I JUST THINK MY GROUP DID A BETTER JOB ACTUALLY AT FOLLOWING THE ASSIGNMENT AND CREATING THE KPIS ON, ON OURS. UM, IT, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT, THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER RIGHT NOW TO REGULATE. NO. SO IT'S A FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND THEN WHAT WE CALL IT REAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT TEAM. AND THAT'S SORT OF THE, SORT OF THE LIAISON, UH, ROLE IS WHAT I WOULD CALL IT. IT'S WHO DO I TALK TO ABOUT THIS ON THE MAP RIGHT HERE? OH, THAT'S IN FATE. WHAT ABOUT THIS? WELL, THAT'S IN ACCOUNTING. WHAT ABOUT THIS? AGAIN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ORGANIZATIONS, DEVELOPERS, COMPANIES THAT ARE LOOKING AT ROCK WALL. AND THEY SAY, WHAT, I ALWAYS HEAR [03:25:01] THIS, WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT? AND THE DEVELOPERS WHERE YOU, YOUR ANSWER IS, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF PLAN. THEY GO, GREAT, I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT. AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF, OUR PLAN SAYS X AND YOU HAVE TO DO X, OTHERWISE YOU'RE OUTTA HERE, BUDDY. IT'S MORE OF, HERE IS OUR PLAN, THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. IF YOU WANNA GO AGAINST THE WILL OF THE COMMUNITY, GOOD LUCK. SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT A THREAT. UH, BUT IT, IT'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF POWER BEHIND IT. BUT I THINK THESE THINGS RELATE. YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T MIND IF THESE GOT INCORPORATED TOGETHER OR SOMETHING, BUT, UM, THEY'RE THE SAME GOAL. ALRIGHT. SO, UH, MY, MY INITIAL THOUGHTS, WE, WE ALREADY HAVE THIS, AND THEY'RE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THEIR PRECINCT WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE WITH ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND GIS. SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE TEAM. I, I MADE AN ATTEMPT DURING THE BUDGET TO CREATE THIS BY THE ADDITION OF A COUNTY ENGINEER TO KIND OF CREATE THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND, AND GOT, GOT, UH, DI DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE FINAL BUDGET ITERATION. SO WE, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THIS AT, AT, AT THE COUNTY TO, AND IT, IT'S, IT'S DONE BY PRECINCT. SO WE, WE GOT A TEAM SET UP. SO THAT WOULD BE MY FINAL COMMENT. I I THINK HE ANSWERS WHAT THE KPIS FOR 3.3 SHOULD BE. MUCH BETTER THAN JUST DO THE MAP. CAN WE, CAN WE MONITOR THIS STUFF? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO FRANK, YOU, YOU SAY WE'VE GOT IT AND WE DO, I, I DON'T DISAGREE, BUT WHERE IS IT? IS IT PUBLISHED SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN SEE THIS, WHETHER IT'S BY PRECINCT OR COUNTYWIDE? SO THIS, THIS, THE INITIATIVE IS TO ESTABLISH A PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT TEAM, RIGHT? WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT. WE'VE GOT A PRECINCT MAP, SO IN TWO OKAY. IT'S YOU. IT'S ME, AND IT'S ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY WORK FOR THE COUNTY. IT'S CARISSA AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. IT'S JIM, ER, BUCKER, AND GIS. MM-HMM. . UH, AND, AND THOSE, THAT'S THE TEAM THAT WOULD FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT IN PRECINCT TWO. OKAY. NOW PRECINCT ONE IS THE SAME. WE JUST SUBSTITUTE CLIFF, RIGHT? YEP. SO WE, WE, WE GOT THE TEAM. OKAY. OKAY. BUT TO JOHN'S POINT, THIS, THIS IS A GOOD TRACKING. I MEAN, THIS IS, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF MEAT ON TO MATT'S. IF THE, IF THE, IF THE GROUP, YOU KNOW, THE CITIZEN GROUP IN 5.1 WANTS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE TEAM TO HELP THE TEAM BETTER TRACK THESE METRICS OR UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE, THAT SORT OF THING, THAT, THAT'S COOPERATION. BUT, OKAY. I, I SEE YOUR POINT. THE BLENDING OF 3.3, 5.3, AND 5.1. I MEAN, I, I, I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME THING, BUT TARGETED DIFFERENT WAYS WITHIN THE PLANE. AND SO INCORPORATING THIS INTO 5.1 AND 3.3 WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE SOMEHOW BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A STANDALONE OBJECTIVE. IT CAN BE AN OBJECTIVE WITH THE GROUP THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER. FIVE THREE. YEAH. AGREE. I AGREE. IT CAN BE AN OBJECTIVE WITH THE, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF JUST MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IN HERE APPEARS SPECIFICALLY IN THOSE PLACES WOULD BE, I THINK A REALLY SMARTER WAY OF DOING IT. BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THESE ARE BAD IDEAS, IT'S JUST IF YOU INCORPORATE 'EM BACK IN, IT KIND OF FLOWS BETTER. LIKE, WE HAVE THIS ECONOMIC TEAM, THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT PROPERTY, THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THIS. WE'VE GOT FUTURE PLAN, WHICH WE CAN MEASURE HOW THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE COUNTY. I KIND MAKES SENSE. WE'RE ALL GETTING TO THE SAME THING, IS MY POINT. YEP. MM-HMM. KPI. OKAY. IS EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WITH INCORPORATING 5.3 INTO THE LANGUAGE FOR 3.3 MM-HMM. PAYING 5.1, WHICH IS THE GROUP. OKAY. THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK GROUP SOMEHOW, LIKE I, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUTTA GOAL FIVE THOUGH. NO, NO, NO. I DON'T NEED, THAT'S MY POINT. NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO THAT. I AGREE. THEY NEED TO SAY, OH, A REFERENCE TO THAT GROUP. YES. OKAY. OKAY. YES. REFERENCE TO THE CO IN 3.3. I GOT MY NUMBERS. YEAH, I GOT ALL MY NUMBERS. YOU GET THE POINT OF JUST MERGING THOSE CONCEPTS TOGETHER. DO NOT GET RID OF ANYTHING HERE. OKAY. MM-HMM. . BUT MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COVERED BETTER IN, IN OTHER PLACES. OKAY. OKAY. GOT IT. MY, OKAY, THAT'S HELPFUL. 5.4 READS TO CONDUCT AN IMPACT STUDY INCLUDING A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS FOR THE CREATION OF A COUNTY MULTI-EVENT, MULTI-PURPOSE CENTER, AND OR STATE SUCH REGIONAL PARK. [03:30:01] THE INITIAL TASKS ARE TO ESTABLISH THE REQUIREMENTS OF USAGE FOR THE CENTER AND DEFINE THE PARK'S CHARACTERISTICS. KPIS WOULD BE THE STUDIES PERCENTAGE, COMPLETION PERCENTAGE OF ADOPTION OF FEASIBILITY RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THE NUMBER AND OR PERCENTAGE OF THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER AND PARK SPACE CREATED FROM THIS PLAN. DISCUSSION ON THIS KPI LIST. DANA, DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK? WELL, YEAH, AS I'M, YEAH. WELL, I'LL START OFF BY SAYING THAT, UM, OF THE, OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE PART OF THE DISCOVERY, THEY, UM, THE, THE, IT WAS RESOUNDING WELL OVER 50%. I DON'T HAVE MY, MY NUMBERS HERE WITH ME, BUT WELL OVER 50% WANT THE COUNTY TO LOOK AT HAVING SOME FORM OF A MULTI-EVENT CENTER. NOW, IT MAY NOT BE TOTALLY OWNED BY THE COUNTY. ONE OF THE, AND I THINK WE'VE GOT THAT IN HERE. ONE OF IT WAS, IS THERE PRIVATE PUBLIC OPPORTUNITIES? UM, IS THERE GONNA BE LAND THAT MIGHT BE DONATED? UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS. AND THEN THE STATE PARK, THE STATE PARK KIND OF CAME IN BECAUSE IT, AT SOME POINT, UM, BACK IN THE, IN THE EARLY SPRING, THE, THE STATE OF TEXAS HAD SOME FUNDING THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR COUNTIES OR MUNICIPALITIES TO REQUEST TO SEE IF THEY COULD GET SOME FUNDING FOR A STATE PARK. SO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, WE DIDN'T WANNA START DOWN THAT ROLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THIS APPROVED YET. OKAY. BUT THAT'S AVAILABLE. SO I, I THINK THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT, UM, FOR US TO LOOK AT. I CAN, I CAN LOOK AT, I CAN POINT OUT A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND US THAT WERE OUR SIZE AT ONE TIME, AND IT'S GROWN AND THEY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND IT DOES BRING IN TOURISM. IT DOES BRING IN SALES TAX DOLLARS. AND IT MAY NOT BE TO THE COUNTY SPECIFICALLY, OR IT COULD BE, BUT IT DOES, IT DOES BENEFIT ROCKWALL COUNTY OVERALL. I, I WOULD SAY, UH, I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE TASKING OUR EDC IF IT'S A SUBCOMMITTEE GROUP OR STANDALONE GROUP. HOWEVER IT ENDS UP BEING WITH, WITH FACILITATING THIS IN, IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. UH, I, I THINK THERE IS A MARKET FOR IT. I THINK MM-HMM. ROCKWELL COUNTY IS JUST THIRSTY FOR, FOR AN EVENT CENTER. UM, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT COUNTY, UH, IS THE BEST ENTITY TO DO THAT. I THINK IF A CITY WANTS TO PARTNER WITH A PRIVATE ENTITY OR A PRIVATE ENTITY, THE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE, THEN I'LL, I'LL HELP HOWEVER I CAN. OKAY. I THINK, I THINK THIS ONE GETS BLENDED IN WITH 5.5 ALSO. AND, AND THEN YOUR MENTION OF PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS IS SPECIFIED IN THAT ONE. YES. BUT I, I THINK THE CONCEPT HERE WAS HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE PRESERVE THE OPEN SPACE, GIVE PEOPLE THE, UM, GATHERING SPACE, GIVE PEOPLE THE COMMUNITY CENTER ALL IN ONE GO. AND THE CONSTANT FEEDBACK WE HEARD WAS, LAND IS BEING DEVELOPED AND WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. AND YOU CAN SEE THE TIME HORIZON ON THIS IS A 15 TO 25 YEAR VISIONARY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PROBABLY, PROBABLY ALREADY MISSED IT AT THAT POINT. HOWEVER, UH, TO THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT, IT DOES COST MONEY TO DO A STUDY. IT DOES COST MONEY TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS. NOW, IF THERE'S AN ENTITY DONATING LAND, AND THEN THERE'S, UM, CORPORATE ENTITIES THAT ARE WILLING TO DONATE FUNDING TO CREATE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUNTY PARK WITH A THINK OF COUNTY FAIRGROUND, THAT KIND OF THING THAT'S BEEN DONATED AND OVER TIME DEVELOPS INTO SOMETHING. YOU DON'T BUILD A BUILDING IN DAY ONE. IT'S PROBABLY A LONG-TERM PLAN. BUT I, I AGREE. I THINK THIS HAS TO BE DRIVEN BY THE, THE PRIVATE SECTOR. I THINK IT'S MAYBE GUIDANCE FROM THE COUNTY, PERHAPS, UH, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S IN AN UNDEVELOPED AREA THAT IS NOT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. I THINK THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS WITH THE GROUP AND A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK AND DANA'S RIGHT AT EVERY SINGLE PUBLIC EVENT THAT I WENT TO, I HEARD THAT CONSTANTLY. WE NEED THE FOLLOWING. WE WANT THE FOLLOWING. EVERYBODY ELSE HAS THIS BUT US. WE HEARD THAT A LOT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMENTS. AND, AND I'LL SAY, UM, I KNOW CURTIS CALDWELL PRETTY WELL, THE NAMESAKE CALDWELL CENTER, AND, UM, JUST TALKING TO HIM RECENTLY AND, AND WE CAN, I THINK HE'S A, WOULD BE A STRONG ADVOCATE TO SORT OF GUIDE US WITH THAT. I HAD A CONVERSATION AND HE SAID THAT ISD ACTUALLY WAS TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY, AND THE CITY DIDN'T WANT, WANNA PARTICIPATE, SO ISD DID IT. AND I THINK THE CITY AT THIS POINT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT BECAUSE THEIR SUCCESS THERE WITH GRADUATIONS, DIFFERENT EVENTS AND SO ON, IS HUGE. SO I JUST SAY THAT I THINK HE, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS GOOD, GOOD. AND I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES, UM, TO WORK WITH HIM. SEE, ARE WE GOOD THOUGH? JUST KEEPING IT AS AN IMPACT STUDY? I, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH IT. GOOD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. STUDY 5.5 READS, EVALUATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR [03:35:01] COUNTY AND OR PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO MAINTAIN OPEN SPACES AND INCREASE RESIDENT AWARENESS AND INVOLVEMENT IN CON CONSERVATION EFFORTS. SPECIFICALLY ESTABLISH BASELINE BY CONDUCTING AN OPEN SPACES AND TRAILS PUBLIC SURVEY. THIS IS IN THE INITIAL TASKS. AND THEN ESTABLISH EXISTING OPEN SPACE BASELINE, THE KPIS, READ A NUMBER, AMOUNT OR PERCENTAGE GROWTH OF DEFINED OPEN SPACES AND ACRES, PERCENTAGE OR NUMBER OF TRAILS AND MILES AND PERCENTAGE GROWTH YEAR OVER YEAR. NUMBER OF INTERLOCAL OPEN SPACES AND TRAIL NETWORK AGREEMENTS. AND THEN PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENT AWARENESS FROM DATA CHANNELS, TRAFFIC SURVEY RESULTS, THOUGHTS ON THE KPIS FOR INITIATIVE. FIVE. FIVE. YEAH, SO SAME THING HERE. UH, I THINK A LOT OF THIS IS TYING IN, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S TRAIL SYSTEMS TOGETHER TO TRY TO CREATE, UM, SOME SORT OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER AND WHERE THERE'S NON-JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES THAT NEED TO BE TIED TOGETHER WITH TRAILS. UM, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE HOW DO, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU CREATE A TASK? UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE, WHERE THE SURVEY CAME IN. HOW DO YOU TRACK THAT? WELL, HOW MUCH OF IT HAVE YOU DONE? AND HOW MUCH OPEN SPACE HAVE YOU CREATED OR, OR PRESERVED OR KEPT IN ALL THE FOLLOWING. SO THIS IS, THIS SECTION IS A BIG NOD TO THE OPEN SPACES ALLIANCE AND, YOU KNOW, UH, LAUREN HAD A LOT OF INPUT, HAS A LOT OF COMMENTS HERE. UM, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE COMMISSIONERS WANNA GO GO AND HOW MUCH THEY WANNA GET INVOLVED. THAT'S RIGHT. . OKAY. CINDY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT? UM, NO, I THINK, UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED THE TRAIL SYSTEM IN, UM, 4.3 YESTERDAY AND, AND THE STATUS OF THAT AND WORKING WITH EACH CITY AND PUTTING TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE TRAIL PLAN FOR THE COUNTY ALL ON ONE DOCUMENT. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PLAN TO BE. SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE OURS OR YOURS OR 4.3 EITHER. I THINK THEY BOTH NEED TO STAY SOLO, BUT THEY'RE SUPPORTING THAT. SO I'M FINE WITH IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT IS. OKAY. GREAT. THAT LEAVES US TO THE END OF FIVE, UH, 0.5 AND THE END OF STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER FIVE. QUICK BREAK. GREAT. OKAY. DO WE NEED A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? ANYBODY? WE'RE AT A STOPPING POINT. LET'S TAKE ONE. LET'S CONVENE. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. LET'S JUMP BACK IN. FINISH STRONG STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER TWO ON PAGE 23. ALL RIGHT, LAST ONE. STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER TWO. YOU SEE THE OPERATING INITIATIVES LISTED THERE. I WILL BE COVERING THEM IN THE NEXT SLIDE, ONE BY ONE. SO OPERATING INITIATIVE 2.1, CREATE AND IMPLEMENT AN ITEGRATED PRIORITY BASED PLANNING, PROGRAMMING, BUDGETING, AND EXECUTION PROCESS. THE TASK ARE FY 25 CREATION OF A COUNTY RESOURCE ALLOCATION PROCESS THAT WILL SUPPORT YOUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT DECISION MAKING AND ANNUAL PROGRAM AND BUDGET GUIDANCE TO ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DIRECTORS AND REVIEW AND ADJUST COUNTY FINANCIAL RESERVE POLICY. YOUR KPIS LISTED ARE, EXCUSE ME, A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS THAT PARTICIPATE IN A COLLABORATIVE BUDGET PROCESS, PERCENTAGE OF PLAN VERSUS EXECUTED INITIATIVE EACH YEAR. PERCENTAGE OF UNBUDGETED ITEMS THAT OCCUR EACH YEAR ON YOUR BUDGET, AND ALSO THE PERCENTAGE OF COUNTY BUDGET EXECUTED VERSUS VERSUS PLANNED. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, FEEDBACK ON THIS SPECIFIC, UM, KPI LISTING. HI, I'M KA WE THE HR DIRECTOR. UM, TO ME, JUDGE NEW. THIS IS, UM, THIS KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH YOUR PLAN TO HAVE THE BUDGET PROCESS IN AN OPEN FORMAT TO WHERE THE DEPARTMENT HITS OR, AND OR ELECTED OFFICIALS WOULD COME BEFORE THE COURT EACH YEAR DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE TO ALREADY YEAH, IT'S, IT'S NICE TO, UH, SEE YOUR, TO-DO LIST THAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING SO YOU CAN MAKE THE LIST AND THEN CHECK IT OFF ONCE YOU'VE MADE THE LIST. SO NOW THAT, THAT, THAT IS THE PLAN GOING FORWARD, TO HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS COME AND PRESENT THEIR BUDGET IN, IN A RECORDED SETTING WORKSHOP TYPE SETTING TO WHERE THEY'RE PRESENTING AS MUCH TO THE CITIZENS AS THEY ARE TO, TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. [03:40:01] UM, UH, SO I MEAN, THE PERCENT OF DEPARTMENTS WILL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO, YEAH. WELL, NO, I'LL LEAVE IT THERE. AGAIN. I LIKE HAVING THINGS. WE'RE JUST GONNA SAY WE DID IT. JUDGE, I ASK YOU, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TIMELINE WAS BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, WE WERE ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE CHANGE MANAGEMENT PROCESS THAT, AND SO WE FELT LIKE, UM, AT THE, THE GROUP THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE FELT LIKE THAT MAYBE WE NEEDED TO MAKE THIS VISIONARY. BUT I THINK AS I'M NOW HEARING, HEARING YOU AND, AND, AND, AND KA TALK, I MEAN WE'RE SAYING IT'S GONNA START WITHIN ZERO TO FIVE, BUT I DON'T, I THINK PROBABLY WELL, BUT, BUT WE, WE ADDED IT AS A TIME HORIZON OF VISIONARY AND, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO LOOK AT SOME TIME OVER OF, OF HOW IT'S THE PERFORMANCE OF IT. DOES THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, NO, IT, IT, IT ABSOLUTELY DOES. PERFORMANCE. ONE OF THE THINGS JUST TO COME CLEAN, UH, THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS IT'S GONNA FORCE THE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LIST OF THE CITIZENS SAY, THIS IS IMPORTANT, THIS IS IMPORTANT, THIS IS IMPORTANT. AND, UH, AS MOST OF YOU'RE AWARE, I'M, I'M HESITANT AND RESISTANT TO GROW GOVERNMENT. SO WE, WE HAVE OUR PIE HERE. THAT'S A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE GET FROM OUR CITIZENS. AND OUR CITIZENS SAY, THIS IS IMPORTANT. THEN WHAT, WHAT ARE WE REMOVING FROM THAT PIE? MM-HMM. . UH, SO IT'S GONNA FORCE SOME HARD OPEN CONVERSATIONS. 'CAUSE WHAT I'M GONNA BE RESISTANT TO IS JUST GROWING OUR PIE. LEAVE, LEAVE, LEAVE OUR AMOUNTS THE SAME, AND HAVE THE HARD CONVERSATIONS AND HAVE 'EM OUT IN THE OPEN. UH, WHERE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN PLEAD THEIR CASE. WOULD THIS, WILL THIS BE BE BEFORE YOU MAKE THE CUT? OR WILL THIS BE YEAH, BUT BEFORE I, I MAKE BEFORE YOU MAKE THE CUT? YEAH. YEP. BEFORE I MAKE THE CUT SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR WHAT I HEAR. OKAY. AND, AND EVERYBODY COMPLETE THEIR CASE AGAIN, AS MUCH TO THE CITIZENS OF ROCKWALL COUNTY AS IT IS TO THE COURT. NOW, I'M STILL REQUIRED BY LAW TO, TO PRESENT THE FIRST BUDGET IS STILL THE COUNTY JUDGE'S BUDGET. OH, YEAH. SO I'LL STILL PRESENT THAT, BUT I, I WANT, I WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO HEAR THE SAME PITCH THAT I HEAR MM-HMM. . SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND RECREATE AND OKAY. SO CONTINUE A DISJOINTED CONVERSATION. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ONE, JUST KIND OF HEARING THE FEEDBACK THUS FAR, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT PROBABLY PROBABLY BE MOVED UP TO ACTIONABLE AND OR AMBITIOUS JUST BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY STARTED. AND MANY OF THE KPIS THAT YOU SET HERE COULD BE DONE IN PROBABLY THE FIRST FIVE YEARS. YEAH. ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON THIS ONE? ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE TO 2.2, UPDATE AND REVISE THE COUNTY FACILITIES MASTER PLAN. WE HAVE SOME INITIAL TASKS THERE TO UPDATE THE MASTER PLAN, CREATE COUNTY GROWTH SCENARIOS, EXCUSE ME, AND TO REVIEW, UPDATE EVERY FIVE YEARS, INCLUDING TECHNOLOGY OFFSETS, APIS PRESENTED OR PERCENTAGE OF FUTURE REQUIREMENTS INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN, AS WELL AS PERCENTAGE OF FACILITY PLANS EXECUTED WITHIN THE TARGETED TIMELINE FUTURE REQUIREMENTS. I I I, I, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A, A LOT OF COMMENTS OTHER THAN IT IS ACTIONABLE BECAUSE COME JANUARY I'M GONNA BE STARTING TO PUSH FOR US TO, TO START FORMALIZING THIS MM-HMM. WITH OR WITHOUT A STRATEGIC PLAN. OKAY, WELL THAT'S , BUT THEN AS DO YOU'RE PUTTING OH, YEAH, I LIKE THAT. BECAUSE AS YOU'RE PUSHING IT, THEN WE'RE GONNA BE CREATING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE DETAILS OF THE TASKS. I THINK WE JUST NEED THE SECOND KPI, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FIRST ONE'S, UNLESS SOMEBODY REMEMBERS WHAT THE FIRST ONE IS ALL ABOUT, HOW DO WE MEASURE THAT? WAS THIS YOURS? NO. YEAH, BUT I, NOT THAT FIRST. KP OKAY. I, I CAN PULL UP. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW WE'RE EXECUTING WITHIN A TIMELINE. I AGREE. AGREE. OKAY. SO WE CAN REMOVE THAT FIRST ONE AND KEEP THAT SECOND ONE WELL, BUT, OKAY. SO BOBBY, I JUST HAVE TO ASK YOU THEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE OPERATING INITIATIVES ARE THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED BACK IN, UM, OCTOBER, IF WE HAD ESTABLISHED FUTURE REQUIREMENTS AND INCORPORATE INTO A TIME-BASED PLAN BUDGET. SO WE DID, WE WERE THINKING FUTURE SUMMER WHEN WE WERE FINALIZING THIS. AND SO I GUESS THAT'S WHY [03:45:01] THAT KM SUPPORT THAT. YEAH, I THINK THE, I, I THINK THE FUTURE REQUIREMENTS JUST POINT TO THE NEED TO UPDATE THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN AS WHAT ARE WE GONNA NEED IN THE FUTURE AS A COUNTY. OKAY. CORRECT. SO THAT SECOND ONE COULD ENCOMPASS THAT FIRST ONE. SO AS YOU ARE PUTTING YOUR PLAN TOGETHER, YOU'D JUST BE TRACKING EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING EXECUTED THAT YOU SET FORWARD IN YOUR PLAN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. INITIATIVE, OR EXCUSE ME. UM, TWO, 2.3. CONDUCTING CONDUCT A REVIEW AND PLAN TO FORECAST CAPABILITY NEEDS REQUIRED TO ACCOMPLISH THE COUNTY'S ROLES AND MISSIONS. UM, TASKS WOULD BE FY 25, CONDUCT A PLANNING PROCESSES EXERCISE FOR YOUR GROWTH SCENARIOS, ESTABLISHING THE RANGE OF POTENTIAL REQUIREMENTS TO ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL GROWTH AND IDENTIFY INDUSTRY OR OTHER STANDARDS TO ESTABLISH POTENTIAL GROWTH IMPACTS. AND THE KPI LISTED IS PERCENTAGE OF FORECAST CAPABILITIES AND NEEDS ADOPTED. I NEED DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE. YEAH. OKAY. TAMMY, AGAIN, TO I, I THINK 2.3 IS, IN MY OPINION, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL FINE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. UM, AND IT DOES SUPPORT 2.2 BECAUSE THE, THE PREVIOUS, I THINK WE HIRED, UH, COMMISSIONER ELECT, ALANA, IF YOU RECALL OUR, THE LAST WORKSHOP WE WERE WITH THE FACILITIES DIRECTOR. AND HE MENTIONED THAT PARK HILL WAS ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE FACILITIES PLAN BASED ON THEIR PROJECTED POPULATION. AND THEN THEY KIND OF BACK INTO THE FACILITIES PLAN FROM THERE, BECAUSE THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO GIVE US A PRETTY ACCURATE DEPICTION OF THE STAFF NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE POPULATION AND THEN IN TURN WHAT THE FACILITIES WOULD LOOK LIKE TO SUPPORT THAT STAFF TO SUPPORT THE INCREASED POPULATION. SO, UM, IN SHORT, I, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ACTIONABLE AND IT'S, IT'S DOABLE THE WAY IT IS. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. YEAH, I AGREE. ESPECIALLY BASED ON POPULATION SCENARIOS WITH THE KPI MM-HMM. LISTED. DO YOU WANNA KEEP IT GROWTH OR YOU WANNA CHANGE? WELL, WE'VE ALREADY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE TO 2.4. OKAY. SO 2.4 HE'S READY WOULD MAKE SENSE IF WE WERE A CORPORATION, I CAN'T MAKE SENSE OF THIS BECAUSE WE ARE A COUNTY GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY. RIGHT. I FEEL THAT IF, IF WE WERE A CORPORATION AND WE WERE A BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND WE COULD PASS EDICTS AND WHATEVER YOU CALL 'EM AND, AND WORK IT FROM THERE, IT'S FINE. WE HAVE 26 INDIVIDUAL CORPORATIONS WORKING UNDER THIS CORPORATION, UM, IN ESSENCE. AND SO HOW DO YOU DO THIS? UH, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT IDEA. IT, I, I'M ALL FOR TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, BUT THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE PEOPLE FOLLOW 2.4. IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL SITTING IN THIS ROOM. ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT DEPARTMENT FOLLOW EVERYTHING THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WANTS TO DO? AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY DON'T? AND THEN WE CAN SAY, WELL, YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. WELL, HOW CAN WE MAKE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL FOLLOW OUR STRATEGIC PLAN? AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT A TENANT OF THIS PLAN TO FAIL JUST BECAUSE WE WANT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN THAT IS UNREALISTIC. AND WITH THAT, I HAVE TO LEAVE, BUT I'M SORRY, I JUST NEEDED TO GET MY PIECE IN THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE REASON THAT JOHN STAYED RIGHT THERE. UM, SO, SO I THINK YOU'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS [03:50:01] A LITTLE BIT THE WRONG WAY AND HE LEFT. SO I CAN'T TELL HIM THAT. BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A TOP DOWN SCENARIO WHEN THIS IS REALLY FROM A BOTTOM UP. THIS IS INVOLVING DEPARTMENTS IN EVALUATING THIS ISN'T THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TELLING ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL WHAT TO DO? THIS IS BEING COLLABORATIVE. THIS IS WORKING TOGETHER. THIS IS UNIFYING WHAT THIS WHOLE STRATEGIC PLAN IS ABOUT. AND REALLY THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS STARTED WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE NEED TO DO COMPENSATION STUDIES TO MAKE SURE WE REMAIN COMPETITIVE. YEAH. SO WE DON'T LOSE TALENT. THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR STARTING THIS. WE KIND OF MORPHED IT INTO, UM, OPERATIONAL INITIATIVES MAYBE. BUT, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE COMPENSATION STUDIES THAT HOPEFULLY WE GET TO DOING INTERNALLY AND NOT USING AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT, THAT, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS SO THAT WE CAN COLLABORATE ON WHAT THE BEST PATH FORWARD WOULD BE FOR THE COUNTY. MM-HMM. . CORRECT. AND THAT WAS THE, LET SPEAK ON BEHALF OF JOHN SINCE HE'S NOT HERE. UM, WOW. YOU'RE SMART. YOU MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. . LET'S DO THAT. . UM, I, I WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO ALTER THE KPI, UH, BECAUSE THE KPI HAS US DOING IT FROM A, A TOP DOWN. AND, AND THE FACTS ARE THE, YOU KNOW, AND I I I GUESS IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT HE POINTED OUT THAT OUR COUNTY CLERK IS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL HERE. MM-HMM. . SHE IS CONTINUALLY SEEKING NEW AND BEST PRACTICES. I MEAN, SHE WAS JUST AT A, A CONVENTION LAST WEEK AND, AND IS ALWAYS BRINGING THINGS IN OF HERE'S WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. LET'S, AND MOST OF OUR ELECTEDS ARE DOING THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE IT TO THE NUMBER OF NEW BEST PRACTICES IDENTIFIED AND COMMUNICATED. MM-HMM. . AND, AND THAT, THAT ALLOWS IT JUST TO BE A COMMUNICATION AND, AND NOT EVEN NECESSARILY IMPLEMENTED. 'CAUSE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND IS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TOP DOWN. IT'S GOING TO BE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE ELECTEDS BRINGING IT TO US AND SAYING, HEY, HERE, HERE'S SOMETHING NEW. AND, AND, AND THEN US SAYING THAT, THAT, THAT'S GREAT. WE, WE ACCEPT THAT AND WE APPLAUD THAT. CORRECT. AND THIS WAS IN, IN REGARDS TO, UM, WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER ELECT JUST SHARED WHEN WE HAD AND CONDUCTED THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE STAFF, THE INTERNAL STAFF. THESE WERE SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM THEM AS FAR AS RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT MECHANISMS FOR THE GROWTH AND TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON THE, THE GROWING WORK THAT THEY'LL BE FACING IN THE YEARS TO COME. SO YES, IT WAS INTENDED TO BE MORE OF A, EVERY OTHER TWO TO THREE YEARS SORT OF CLASS AND COMP STUDY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LIKE AN INDUSTRY STANDARD'S STUNNED BY A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. SO WE'LL MAKE THAT UPDATE TO YOUR KPI. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON 2.4? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE DOWN TO OUR LAST ONE, WHICH IS 2.5 REVIEW ESTABLISHED INTERNAL COUNT COUNTY GOVERNMENT WORKING GROUPS TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT OF THE ACTIONS AND RESOURCES TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN VISION AND GOALS. UM, YOUR TASK WOULD BE ANNUAL, EXCUSE ME, ANNUAL MEETING WITH QUARTERLY UPDATES AS NEEDED, UM, TO WORK WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, DEPARTMENT HEADS AS WELL. AND THE KPI IS PERCENTAGE ALIGNMENT OF COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS WITH STRATEGIC VISIONS AND GOALS. ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT? 1% ALIGNMENT? I DUNNO THAT, SO I'M, I'M CONFUSED WITH KPI PERCENT ALIGNMENT AND, AND I'M, I'M ALL FOR THE OPERATING INITIATIVE. IN MY MIND IT KIND OF WORKS AS A SUNSET COMMITTEE. MM-HMM. AT THE STATE LEVEL. YEP. IS IT STILL ACHIEVING ITS GOAL? DOES IT STILL NEED TO EXIST OR DOES IT NEED TO BE MODIFIED? SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE TRACK PERCENT ALIGNMENT OF COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS WITH STRATEGIC VISION AND GOALS. THAT'S, UH, SUBJECTIVE. I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY MEASURABLE. UM, SO I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE KPI SHOULD READ TO BE HONEST. YEAH. THAT KPI IS A LITTLE SUBJECTIVE. I THINK. UM, IT MAY BE JUST THE PERCENTAGE REVIEWED. MAYBE WHAT I'D LIKE TO, WELL, I, I'D LIKE TO, 'CAUSE THIS IS ONE THAT'S DONE IN MOST COUNTIES, STRATEGIC PLANS, AND ESPECIALLY WITHIN PHYSIO. I'VE SEEN SOME KPIS THAT THEY HAVE THAT OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAD SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO HAVING AN ANNUAL REVIEW. I NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR KPIS ARE, OR YOU GUYS CAN, AND YOU CAN KIND OF GET, YOU CAN KIND OF COME BACK AND PUT THAT TOGETHER BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THAT THAT IS THERE ON EVERY ONE I'VE LOOKED AT. SURE. WE CAN GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK. BUT THE ONE BEING RECOMMENDED IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, SHOULD ADD TO THIS LIST HERE. SURE. THAT YOU, WE COPIED. [03:55:03] OKAY. I THINK WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS ONE, WE ALSO USED, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, LIKE ROAD BRIDGE GOALS AND FACILITIES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS BUDGET FOR EACH YEAR. THEY HAVE CERTAIN PROJECTS. MM-HMM. . AND THOSE WOULD BE TRACKABLE PROJECTS THAT WE COULD TRACK IN THE, IN THE SOFTWARE. IT WILL BE, YEAH. SO ARE YOU CAMMI, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS WOULD BE A PLACE WHERE WE PROBABLY NEED TO DRILL DOWN AND HAVE, HAVE THOSE, THOSE, SOME OF THOSE GOALS PUT IN HERE? ARE YOU, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS? WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NECESSARILY WITH, AS FAR AS THIS IS CONCERNED WITH THE KPIS. I WAS JUST THROWING THOSE OUT THERE AS EXAMPLES. UM, IF, SO WE MEET ONCE A YEAR AND WE NOTIF, WE AS IN THE DEPARTMENT HEADS NOTIFY THE COURT OF WHAT OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES WOULD BE AND HOW WE WOULD NEED TO BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. THE BUDGET IS SET AND THEN ONCE A YEAR WE ONCE OR QUARTERLY, WHATEVER THE COURT WERE TO DETERMINE, WE WOULD MEET AS A GROUP WITH THE COURT AND REVIEW OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT WE ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND THEN LIKE, KEEP Y'ALL UPDATED ON HOW, YOU KNOW, THE PERCENTAGE OF COMPLETION MM-HMM. , UM, WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE YEAR. AND THEN IT'S TRACKABLE USING THE SOFTWARE AS WELL. YEAH. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT? I THINK YOU'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT FROM PAST EXPERIENCE, OUR MAINTENANCE, WE'RE JUST, I'M JUST GONNA PICK MAINTENANCE. OUR MAINTENANCE GETS TASK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WITH SO MANY PROJECTS THAT TAKE PRIORITY OVER THE PROJECT THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY LISTED. FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY AT THE JAIL AND YOU GOTTA REPLACE A WATER HEATER THAT COMES OVER ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE DOING AT THAT TIME. SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE PUT THOSE THINGS IN THERE TO MEASURE BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT HIT THEIR GOALS BECAUSE THERE WAS OTHER THINGS THAT CAME UP THAT HAPPENED TO BE MORE IMPORTANT AT THAT TIME. IS THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD'VE ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS REGULARLY. YEAH. THOSE AND THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA GONNA HAPPEN AND CAN AND CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. I THINK WE STILL LOOK AT THE MEASUREMENT AND THAT LEADS US TO, TO DIG IN AND SAY, WELL, WHY DIDN'T WE HIT THIS PARTICULAR KPI? AND WE'LL SAY, OH, BECAUSE OF THIS EMERGENCY AT THE JAIL, BUT IT'S JUST A WAY FOR US TO MAKE SURE OUR, OUR EYES ARE ON WHAT THEY NEED TO BE ON BASICALLY. MM-HMM. . CORRECT. AND YOUR POINT WON'T BE PERFECT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE WANNA SET UP A STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE FIRST PLACE SO THAT AS THINGS COME UP, YOU'RE ABLE TO ANALYZE, DO THESE FALL WITHIN THOSE GOALS THAT WE'VE SET UP, AND THEN YOU CAN FIND A PLACE FOR THEM AND OR WHAT OTHER ADJUSTMENTS YOU WANNA MAKE. AND THAT ANNUAL MEETING WILL ACCOMPLISH THAT. YEP. OR QUARTERLY UPDATES. QUARTERLY UPDATES. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. I WANNA ADD ONE COMMENT AS WELL. WHEN WE WERE CREATING THIS INITIATIVE, THERE WAS MENTION OF THESE WORKING GROUPS THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, THROUGHOUT VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND ELECTED, UM, LEADERS AND TASKS WITH DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES. THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THIS INITIATIVE IS A, AN EFFICIENCY BASED INITIATIVE. TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED. HOW WELL ARE THEY ALIGNING THEIR ACTIONS AND RESOURCES TO THE VISION AND GOALS OF THE PLAN. AND SO WITH KNOWING THAT THERE'S ALREADY SOME ESTABLISHED AND THEY ALREADY, UM, PERFORMING VARIOUS TASKS AND FUNCTIONS, WE CAN LAYER THOSE ONTO WHAT WE DECIDE IN THE FINAL PLAN AND START TO MAP THAT ALIGNMENT. UM, SO IT'S ACTUALLY NOT TOO FAR OUT OF REACH, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THIS SENSE. ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON 2.5? I CLOSE THIS OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. WE'RE GONNA JUST MOVE INTO OUR FINAL COMMENTS HERE AND CLOSE OUT THE SESSION. IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, WE LISTED HERE THE PRIMARY ITEMS YOU CAN EXPECT IN THE COMING MONTHS BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER. WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE. KAYLA AND MYSELF AND THE BAKER TILLY TEAM WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP OUR STRUCTURE FOR THE PLAN. MM-HMM. , UH, MORE THAN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE ESTABLISHED. SO, OH, THINK WE LOST? YEP. OH, I'M BACK NOW, NOW HERE. OKAY. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON ESTABLISHING THE STRUCTURE OF THE PLAN. YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF WHAT THE PLAN WILL LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF THE KPIS, THE TIME HORIZONS AND THE INITIATIVES AND THE GOALS. SOME OF OUR OTHER MATERIAL THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN PREVIOUS MONTHS, THE DATA THAT WE'VE SHARED, SOME OF THE, UH, GRAPHICS [04:00:01] ON HOW WE DEVELOPED THE PLAN. THESE ARE SOME THINGS YOU'LL EXPECT TO SEE WITHIN THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE OF THE PLAN. WE'LL WORK ON THAT BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER WITH THE COMMITTEE. AND THEN BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, DECEMBER 31ST, WE PLAN TO SHARE A DRAFT, WHICH KEEPS US ON TIMELINE FOR OUR, UH, AS OUR ORIGINAL PROJECT TIMELINE EARLY JANUARY. AND, UH, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT DURATION AFTER THAT POINT WILL JUST BE TO INCORPORATE ANY CHANGES AND SUGGESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE. AND THE CSC HAS AS WELL AS, UM, JUST REFINING HOW WE'RE LAYING OUT THE DOCUMENT, ANYTHING THAT MATCHES WHAT IT IS YOU ALL HOPE TO GAIN FROM THE DOCUMENT. SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY IN THE, UH, FINAL STRETCH, IF YOU WILL, MARCH TO APRIL OF 25, IS WHAT I MENTIONED, THAT FINAL STRATEGIC PLAN, 2050 TO THE COUNTY TO COORDINATE CHANGE MANAGEMENT AND THE ADOPTION OF THE PLAN. YOU'LL HEAR THIS PHRASE MORE FREQUENTLY GOING FORWARD. THIS CHANGE MANAGEMENT CONCEPT, WHICH WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON RIGHT NOW IN THE COMMITTEE. THIS IS MAKING SURE THAT YOUR DOCUMENT, WHEN WE HAND IT OVER TO YOU, HAS A SERIES OF TASKS THAT ALLOW YOU TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH THE PLAN. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT TASKS? HOW DO WE INCORPORATE THIS INTO OUR OPERATION? AND WHAT DO THE YEARS TO COME LOOK LIKE? HOW FREQUENTLY IS THIS UPDATED? THOSE SORT OF TOPICS. CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT? YES, SIR. ON THAT? THE WORD CHANGE MANAGEMENT IS SCARY TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, TO A LOT OF EMPLOYEES. UM, AND JUST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE, I I, UH, DEFINE THAT IN MY MIND WHEN I HEAR THAT IS IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY. CORRECT. UM, SO IT, IT, IT'S NOT A, HEY, WE'RE GOING, EVERYBODY'S FIRED. YOU'RE GONNA BE INTERVIEWING FOR YOUR JOB. IT'S EXACTLY HOW DO WE BEST IMPLEMENT? SO HOW DO WE BEST IMPLEMENT? AND IF I CAN ADD ON JUDGE NEW AS WELL, IT'S HOW DO WE MAKE THE MOST VALUE OF ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE? PLEASE, THERE WAS A MOVEMENT OF THE OPERATING INITIATIVES FROM YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND I WOULD THINK, I'M NOT IN YOUR ALL'S SHOES, BUT IF I WAS, THAT YOU COME BACK WITH THOSE CHANGES BY THE END OF NOVEMBER BEFORE YOU GET INTO THE, THE DRAFT PLAN, THE BIG PLAN, UH, SO THAT THOSE ARE SEALED. AND WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING ON WITH THE DRAFT PLAN BY THE END OF DECEMBER. I AGREE. FANTASTIC. YES. THAT'S PART OF OUR PLAN. WE'LL WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE ON THESE CHANGES, MAKING SURE THEY'RE ADOPTED. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. AND, AND, AND DAN, THE COMMITTEE WILL BE SHARING IT WITH ALL OF THE CSE MEMBERS AS WELL. LASTLY, JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO RYAN BRECK TO CLOSE THIS TIME. IT'S BEEN ADDICTION TIME. IT FEELS LIKE. UH, CAN'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE PICTURE ALL. HI. WELL, IF YOU COULD SEE, YOU CAN SEE BOTH JIM, DANA, AND RYAN'S HAIR. IT WAS BLOWING. THE WIND WAS GOING SO BIG. IF YOU THAT WAS CLOSE UP. ALL OF OUR HAIR WAS STANDING STRAIGHT UP . I SEE WHY IT'S FUZZY. I SEE THAT. I'M TELLING YOU. UH, REALLY, I, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO CLOSE ON OTHER THAN SAY THANK YOU TO YOU GUYS FOR Y'ALL'S HARD WORK AND, AND DEDICATION. IT'S BEEN A DISCIPLINE AND FOCUSED JOURNEY TO GET US TO THIS POINT. UM, AND THAT'S Y'ALL'S JOB AS WELL. BUT, UM, IT CERTAINLY IS, IS SOMETHING THAT OUR, OUR, OUR LEADERSHIP WITHIN THE COUNTY AND CITIZENS HAVE, HAVE BEEN PART OF AS WELL. UM, AND WE'RE ALMOST THERE. I WAS REMINDED, UH, NOT BY TEMPERATURE THIS MORNING 'CAUSE IT'S STILL HOT, BUT IF YOU COULD SEE OVER HERE, UM, ACROSS THE STREET, THEY'RE THE, THE CITY EMPLOYEES. WERE PUTTING UP CHRISTMAS GARLANDS. SO IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN A WHOLE YEAR, BUT IT HAS BEEN. IT HAS BEEN. UH, AND SO I JUST, I'M, I'M THE, THE, THE TASK, THE VISION, THE JOB THAT WE HAVE AND SET OUT WITH, UM, AND I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR, BUT IT HAS NOT LESSENED IN IMPORTANCE. UM, SCOTT AND I TALKED A MINUTE AGO ON THE BREAK, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE ONLY THING THAT COMES FROM THIS IS 25 YEARS OF UNITY WITHIN THE COUNTY, THEN WE'VE WON. AND THAT'S, WE CAN, THAT'S A MEASURABLE THING BECAUSE WE, WE LIVE IN A DIVIDED TIME. AND IF WE CAN BE UNITED HERE, COUNTYWIDE, CITYWIDE, STATEWIDE, IT MATTERS AND MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF EVERYBODY. SO, UM, DON'T LOSE HEART. JUST KEEP WORKING. UH, AND I THINK WE'RE DONE. DANA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK NO, NO SIR. YOU, YOU ARTICULATED IT REAL WELL. WE DO THINK BAKER PHILLY, BUT I ALSO PERSONALLY THANK EACH OF YOU GUYS FOR YOUR BOARD PICK PARDON? FOR THE WHOLE HOUR. OH, OKAY. I THANK EACH PERSON BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY HOURS THAT HAVE BEEN PLUGGED INTO THIS. AND MARK KIPPET IS NOT HERE. WE CAN ALL SAY HI TO HIM. HE IS ON A, ON A CRUISE SOMEWHERE. SO THERE YOU GO. 10 50. WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.