* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT. THIS IS THE WORKSHOP MEETING. IT IS JANUARY 21ST, 2025, 9:00 AM I'M GONNA MOVE RIGHT INTO AGENDA ITEM [1. PUBLIC FORUM: (This is the publ ic's opportunity to address the Commissioners Court about County matters. During this meeting, the Commissioners Court will not discuss, consider or take action on any item not included on this meeting's agenda. We respectfully ask that anyone stepping forward to speak during the Publ ic Forum to please limit remarks to three minutes or less .)] NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC FORUM. THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER'S COURT ABOUT COUNTY MATTERS, AND HOPEFULLY SPECIFICALLY ROAD MATTERS IN THE COUNTY. SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP. FIRST ON THE LIST IS LACEY ROGERS, CITY OF ROY CITY. THANK YOU, COURT. UH, LACEY ROGERS, CITY OF RO, CITY CITY ENGINEER. ADDRESS 3 0 5 NORTH ARCH IN ROYCE CITY. UH, SO I'VE ASKED THAT A PACKET BE HANDED TO YOU ALL. UH, IT IS IN FRONT OF YOU. IT IS COMPRISED OF THREE ATTACHMENTS. UH, THE FIRST ONE IS AN EMAIL SENT FEBRUARY 24TH, 2021, COMMUNICATING ROY CITY'S PRIORITIES. THIS WAS DONE THROUGH THE CONSORTIUM AHEAD OF ANY COURT MEETINGS THAT OCCURRED. UH, THE ATTACHED IN THE BACK OF THAT PACKET, UH, WERE OUR PRIORITIES AS SUBMITTED FEBRUARY 24TH AND 2021. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THE TRIP 21 PROJECT LIST THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE CONSORTIUM AFTER IT WAS ADOPTED AUGUST 10TH, 2021 BY THE COURT ON PAGE TWO. UH, ALL OF OUR PROJECTS WERE IN PRECINCT FOUR. UM, MOST OF THEM ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, AND THOSE PROJECTS ARE ON THAT LIST AS WELL. AND THEN THE LAST ATTACHMENT IS, UM, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A REVISED, UH, PRIORITY PROJECT LIST. IT IS NOW DATED JANUARY 20TH, 2025. UM, THE PRIORITIES HAVE NOT CHANGED. UM, THE PROJECTS HAVE NOT CHANGED. UH, THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT IS THERE IS A NEW PROJECT, UH, STAY HIGHWAY 66, MISCELLANEOUS INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER STA HAS ENGAGED WITH TXDOT ON. UM, WE STAND TO BENEFIT FROM AN URBY CAMPBELL INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, SO WE'VE ADDED THAT ON THE LIST. BUT TO SUMMARIZE, UM, PROJECT ONE WAS FM 35, I BELIEVE. TXDOT IS PROGRESSING THAT PROJECT NOW THROUGH THEIR OWN, UM, UH, ENGINEERING FUNDS FOR ADVANCED PLANNING. AND SCHEMATIC PROJECT TWO IS 5 48. I BELIEVE THE COUNTY, THROUGH THEIR BOND IS ADVANCING THAT PROJECT. UH, I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO AN APPROVED SCHEMATIC. UM, AND THEN MOVING INTO ENVIRONMENTAL ON THAT ONE. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, PROJECT THREE IS THE OUTER LOOP. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HALF AN ASSOCIATES, UH, TO DATE ON, UM, DETERMINING CONSENSUS OF AN ALIGNMENT THROUGH THE SEA OF RO CITY LIMITS. UM, AND AS IT APPROACHES COLLIN COUNTY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COLLIN COUNTY'S TEAM AS WELL TO, UH, TRY TO GET THAT CONSENSUS AND CONNECTION TO THAT ALIGNMENT. UH, WE'VE MET WITH A NUMBER OF, UH, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER THROUGH THE CORRIDOR WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF ROY CITY AND OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS IN OUR ETJ BOUNDARIES. AND, UH, I HAVE GENERALLY A CONSENSUS WITH DEVELOPERS, PROPERTY OWNERS, ET CETERA, UH, THROUGH THEIR, UH, EXTENSIVE COORDINATIONS HAVE OCCURRED. PROJECT NUMBER 4, 17 77, FM 35 EXTENSION, WHICH IS ON THE LIST, AND IT HAS NOT BEEN ADVANCED YET. AND THEN PROJECT FIVE, FM 24 53, WHICH IS NOT ADVANCED YET, BUT IS ON THE LIST. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE NEWS TO HIGHWAY 66 PROJECT AT OBBY CAMPBELL INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT. UM, WANTED TO ADD THAT TO THE LIST, BUT, UH, JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT OUR PRIORITIES HAVE NOT CHANGED FROM WHEN IT WAS COMMUNICATED IN 2021 WHEN WE WERE HAVING DISCUSSIONS THROUGH THE CONSORTIUM, UH, STARTING WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER MAGNUS, AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, INTO THE NEW, UM, A COURT. SO THAT IS ALL. THANK YOU, LACEY. CAN I JUST, OH, YEAH. THIS, AS, AS THE COMMISSIONERS HAD ASKED ME, HOW IS THIS GONNA GO? AND, AND I SAID, THIS IS A WORKSHOP. THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY, AND IT'S GONNA GO ROLLING. TUMBLING IS HOW IT'S GONNA GO. UH, THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND ENGAGE WITH EACH OTHER AND ENGAGE WITH, WITH YOU GUYS. SO, OKAY. I THINK COMMISSIONER MLA MAYBE HAS A QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, GREAT JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PROVIDING US THIS. UM, I WANNA GO TO NUMBER, NUMBER THREE OF THE REVISION ONE. THE FIRST, THE FIRST, UM, UM, REPORT YOU'VE GIVEN US THAT SAYS REVISION ONE 20, UM, THREE, THE OUTER LOOP. YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT YOU HAD MET WITH, UM, MOST OF THE HOMEOWNER OR THE OWNERS, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS INSIDE THE CITY, AND MOST OF THEM IN THE ETJ AS WELL. AND YOU SAID THAT THERE IS A CONSENSUS. UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU ELABORATE JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THAT FOR ME? SURE. THROUGH, UH, HALF AN ASSOCIATES, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TOUCH BASE WITH ALMOST EVERY PROPERTY OWNER OR A BROKER ON BEHALF OF A PROPERTY OWNER OR A DEVELOPER ON BEHALF OF A PROPERTY OWNER. UM, [00:05:01] SO THAT THEN THAT INFORMATION CAN BE THEN, UH, BASICALLY COMMUNICATED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IF WE'RE NOT, IF THEY'RE UNWILLING TO MEET WITH US MM-HMM . UM, AND, UH, YES. SO GENERALLY WE WENT THROUGH ROUTE OPTIONS. WE WENT THROUGH HOW DOES THIS IMPACT YOU, UM, BEING HERE, BEING HERE, AND THERE WAS MULTIPLE OPTIONS, ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF 30. UH, GENERALLY NORTH OF 30, THAT ALIGNMENT IS FAIRLY SET. IT CAN'T REALLY SHIFT MUCH BECAUSE IT IMPACTS QUITE A BIT IF YOU DO. BUT TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S A LOT OF EMPTY PROPERTY DOWN THERE. AND SO WANTING TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAXIMIZE THEIR COMFORT LEVEL AND HAVING THIS VERY LARGE SLOTH OF LAND BEING PURCHASED FROM THEM. UM, AND HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO, UH, WE, WE HAVE OUR COMP PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AS WELL, THAT WE SHARED WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER. UM, TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT IF, IF THE OUTER LOOP IS PRESENT, THEN THE COMP PLAN NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED, UM, WITH CERTAIN TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD OCCUR. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 15, 20 YEAR PLAN. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A FIVE YEAR PLAN. THIS IS VERY LONG TERM. UM, SO YEAH, SO WE WERE ABLE TO BASICALLY GET, UH, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDING AND ON THE SAME PAGE, UH, AS TO, AS TO WHAT THE PREFERRED ALIGNMENT COULD LOOK LIKE. AND THEN THAT WAS OF COURSE, PRESENTED IN THE LAST PUBLIC MEETING THAT, THAT OCCURRED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, CAN I FOLLOW UP ON THAT? AND I KNOW, I ASSUME YOU'RE NOT THE ONE THAT MET WITH EVERY PROPERTY OWNER, OR DID YOU THAT, I'M SORRY? ARE YOU THE PERSON THAT MET WITH EVERY PROPERTY OWNER? I, I ATTENDED EVERY SINGLE MEETING THAT HALF AN ASSOCIATES CONDUCTED. OKAY. AWESOME. GREAT. SO WHEN YOU SAY WE'VE KIND OF REACHED A CONSENSUS, I THINK WAS HOW YOU FINISHED IT UP, WHAT WAS THE, WHAT IS THE GENERAL SENSE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS? LET'S START AT THE VERY BASIC. WHEN YOU TELL 'EM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OUTER LOOP, ARE THEY SAYING, YAY, WE WANT IT? ARE THEY SAYING, OH, WE HATE IT, AND THEN, AND THEN YOU'RE KIND OF REACHING A CONSENSUS IF IT COMES, OR WHAT'S THEIR GENERAL REACTION TO IT? SO IT CAN BE ZERO TO A HUNDRED IN SOME INSTANCES. THESE FOLKS HAVE LIVED HERE FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIFE OR GENERATIONS MM-HMM . SO THE THOUGHT OF HAVING AN OUTER LOOP COMING THEIR WAY IS VERY SCARY. AND THAT IS A FACT. YEP. BUT THROUGH THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THEM SHIFTING THINGS, MOVING THINGS, EXPLAINING THE THINGS THAT, HOW THINGS IMPACT, OR IF WE SHIFT HERE, IT IMPACT, IT IMPACTS THIS. UM, AND WHEN, WHEN I SAY CONSENSUS, WHAT I MEAN IS THAT EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THE, EITHER THE OPPORTUNITIES OR THE RESULT OF THE OUTER LOOP. NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO LOVE EVERY PROJECT. THAT IS AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK. THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU WILL GET EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY. YOU SAY, WOO, LET'S DO THIS. OH, TRUST ME, I'M, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT THERE IS A CONSENSUS AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE ROUTE, AND THIS IS HOW IT, THIS IS HOW IT IS APPROACHED. THIS IS THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION PROCESS. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE UNDERSTOOD THAT IT'S NOT A, WE'RE GONNA COME AND TAKE THINGS FROM YOU. IT IS A, THIS IS A PROJECT, THIS IS THE PROCESS. THERE WILL BE RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION, THERE WILL BE DUE DOLLARS, THERE WILL BE APPRAISALS, THERE WILL BE ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND IF, ESPECIALLY IF A HOUSE IS HIT IN PARTICULAR, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE ANY HOUSES ARE HIT SOUTH OF 30, THERE MAY BE ONE OR TWO ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT TRY TO GET YOU TO ANSWER A QUESTION THAT CAN'T BE ANSWERED. I KNOW THAT EVERYONE DOESN'T LOOK AT IT THE SAME. I KNOW EVERYONE'S NOT HAPPY. I REMEMBER IN HEATH, WE WERE GOING TO FIX A STREET THAT WAS ALREADY THERE, AND LITERALLY PEOPLE SHOWED UP AND SAID, DON'T FIX OUR STREET, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE MOST SURPRISING MEETINGS I'VE EVER SAT IN ON. BUT THE, AND THE REASON I'M TRYING TO ASK THIS QUESTION IS, AT OUR LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING, UM, THERE WAS AN ITEM ON THE OUTER LOOP THAT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY PULLED OFF THE MEETING. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT, BUT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO GO INTO NEGOTIATIONS, UM, WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES OF NET COG, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL, THAT GROUP. AND I'M REALLY TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT. AND I, AGAIN, NOT, I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU'VE SPENT IN THIS, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DISCREDIT THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GENERAL, WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S A GENERAL CONSENSUS, IT'S, IT, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE'S NOT A GENERAL CONSENSUS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT IT, BUT THERE'S A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING ON HERE'S HOW THE PROCESS IS GOING TO WORK. IS THAT FAIR OR IS THAT NOT FAIR? I WOULD SAY THAT'S GENERALLY FAIR. OKAY. THE, THE OPPORTUNITIES AND THE IMPACTS ARE VERY DIFFERENT. NORTH OF 30 THAN SOUTH OF 30. YEP. NORTH OF 30, THERE IS SOME, UH, OLDER RESIDENTIAL, NOT OLDER RESIDENTIAL, BUT LARGER PIECES [00:10:01] OF PROPERTY THAT HAVE BEEN IN GENERATIONS OF OWNERSHIP. UM, THERE'S ALSO A LARGE SCHOOL PROPERTY THAT THE ISD PURCHASE UP THERE. OF COURSE, THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THE, OUT IN THE OUTER LOOP FROM AN ACCESS STANDPOINT. UM, AND THEN THERE'S AN ABANDONED ROADWAY. SO NORTH OF 30, IT GENERALLY FOLLOWS A ROADWAY ALIGNMENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD ALWAYS DESIRE. YOU ALWAYS WANNA ATTEMPT TO FOLLOW AN EXISTING ROADWAY ALIGNMENT. UM, NORTH OF 30, IT'S VACANT PROPERTY, COMPLETELY VACANT. AND EVERY PROPERTY OWNER IS LOVING THE IDEA OF HAVING THIS AVAILABLE ACCESS TO THEM IN THE FUTURE. AND AGAIN, THE COMMUNICATION IS THAT THERE'S NO WAY THIS ROAD GETS THERE IN FIVE YEARS. THERE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE A WORLD THAT IT COMES IN 10 YEARS, BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR KIDS' KIDS AND HAVING A NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR THAT RUNS THROUGH THIS AREA IS VITALLY IMPORTANT. AND, AND ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION ON THIS. I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE WANTS IT TO BE A, A REFERENDUM ON THE OUTER LOOP. IT'S NOT IN MY MIND, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS THE CITY OF ROYCE CITY AS AN ENTITY IN FAVOR OF PROCEEDING WITH THE OUTER LOOP? SO I CANNOT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY COUNSEL, SO I CAN'T SAY, AND THE, THE COUNCIL HAS NOT ISSUED ANY SORT OF RESOLUTION TO THAT FACT. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE, THE COUNTY HAVE THAT SAME RESOLUTION. YEAH. UM, SO I CANNOT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF, UH, OUR COUNCIL. OKAY. THEN I SAID ONE LAST QUESTION, BUT I GOT ANOTHER ONE. UM, SO YOU'VE GOT FIVE, UH, PROJECTS AND ONE THAT'S IDENTIFIED AS NEW ON HERE. UM, ARE THOSE IN YOUR PRIORITY OF WHAT YOU THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT, OR ARE THEY JUST FIVE PROJECTS LISTED? UH, THEY CAN BE LISTED AS AS PROJECT NUMBER. THAT CAN BE THEIR PRIORITY AS WELL. OKAY. YES, SIR. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND BEFORE YOU LEAVE, COMMISSIONER, UM, LEIA, I DID WANNA SAY, THE ONE THING I HEARD YOU SAY, UM, LACEY, ALSO THOUGH THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PART OF HELPING WITH SOME OF THE GENERAL CONSENSUS AS YOU'VE USED THAT WORD, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE OUTER LOOP, IS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT TOGETHER A COMP PLAN THAT IS NOT JUST A FIVE YEAR COMP PLAN. YOU'RE TRYING TO, TRYING TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE LANDOWNERS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT COULD BE FOR THEM AND OR THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE, THAT WHOLE AREA OF THE CITY. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, LACEY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRAVING THE COLD TODAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS MAYOR TRACE JOHANNSON. GOOD MORNING. IT'S, UH, BEEN MY HABIT IN ADDRESSING THIS COURT TO KEEP MY REMARKS BRIEF, AND I DO NOT SEE A COMPELLING REASON TO CHANGE THAT TODAY. UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IN THE MILITARY, WE HAVE A, A SAYING THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, AND THAT IS THAT THE BEST LAID PLAN DOESN'T SURVIVE FIRST CONTACT WITH THE ENEMY. UH, MIKE TYSON SAID IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY. EVERYONE HAS A PLAN UNTIL YOU GET PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH. I THINK AT THE ROAD CONSORTIUM, WE HEARD A BUNCH OF EXAMPLES WHEN WE HAD PROJECT UPDATES OF THE BEST LAID PLANS, UH, WITH REAL LIFE HAPPENING, AND HOW WE HAVE TO ADJUST TO REAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS OR TIMING OR, OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I THINK FOR THE CITY OF ROCKWALL, UH, I'M NOT PREPARED TO DISCUSS IN DETAIL OUR PROJECTS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT OUR LIST OF PRIORITIES HAS CHANGED ANY FROM WHAT WE'VE, UH, DESCRIBED AT THE ROAD CONSORTIUM. WE'RE GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THOSE PROJECTS. AND, UM, I THINK ONE, ONE THING THAT WAS INTERESTING WHEN THINKING ABOUT THE OUTER LOOP OR ANY OTHER ROAD DEVELOPMENT, I I, I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE, THE REALITY OF IF WE DON'T BUILD IT, THEY WON'T COME. AND WHAT I THINK ABOUT IS NORTH GOLIAD RIGHT OUT HERE, UH, WHERE IT HAS NOT BEEN BUILT. AND THEN THEY, THEY CAME , ESPECIALLY TO THE NORTH SIDE, AND THEN DO MY FRIENDS DOWN SOUTH WHERE MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM 2 0 5 IS STILL, UH, NOT EXPANDED, BUT YET WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY. SO THEY, THEY DID COME AND, UH, WE'RE ALL DEALING WITH IT. SO, UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, OUR, OUR PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY REMAIN THE SAME AS WE EXPRESSED IN CONSORTIUM. SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MAYOR JOHANSEN? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. HOW DO WE LET HIM OFF THAT EASY? . THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON THE LIST IS BRIAN MCNEIL, MAYOR BRIAN MCNEIL. THAT WAS FOR YOU, SIR , IN CASE Y'ALL DIDN'T UNDERSTAND START, THROW THAT AT 'EM TODAY. SEE, I DIDN'T WEAR AN UPSIDE DOWN MA HAT. I DIDN'T BRING ANY HANDOUTS LIKE LACEY. UM, BUT I'M GONNA READ ALL OF THIS. UH, IT'S NOT A WHOLE, ACTUALLY, IT'S JUST THREE PAGES. JUST KIDDING. [00:15:01] SO, GOOD MORNING JUDGE COMMISSIONERS AND OTHERS HERE TODAY, TODAY TO DISCUSS ROADS AS WELL AS ITEMS RELATED. ROADS ARE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF LIFE, ALTHOUGH THE ROAD TO BE THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS LAST NIGHT FOR NOTRE DAME DID NOT WORK OUT THE ROAD TO THE WHITE HOUSE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP DID. HOWEVER, THESE ARE NOT THE ROADS WE ARE DISCUSSING. ALTHOUGH BAY V NEXT YEAR FOR THE IRISH, IT WILL WORK OUT. LET'S HOPE SO. I AM A NOTRE DAME FAN, SO HERE WE ARE COMING TOGETHER AS A UNITED FRONT, WORKING TOGETHER FOR THAT WIN. IT IS HAS BEEN SAID TIME AND TIME AGAIN. WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER, WE SIMPLY WIN TOGETHER. MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM HAS ITS SHARE OF NEEDS WHEN IT COMES TO ROADS, AND THAT IS WHY I'LL CONTINUE TO FULLY ENDORSE THE EXISTING ROCKWELL COUNTY ROAD CONSORTIUM, WHICH, IF I MESSED THAT UP A FEW TIMES WHEN I SAY IT, IT'S JUST A HARD WORD FOR ME. SO I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS A PRIORITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SIMPLY FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE NOT ONLY ARE OUR CITIES TAKING CARE OF ROADS, BUT AS A COUNTY WE FOCUS ON THIS AS WELL. IT HAS BECOME A HUGE POINT IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR ROCKWELL COUNTY FOR 2050. EVERY MEETING I ATTENDED, IT SEEMED LIKE ROADS WAS ON THERE. 2 0 5. THIS IS A MAIN ROAD THAT CONNECTS MANY RESIDENTS FROM ROCKWALL TO MCCLENDON CHISHOLM. AND I WOULD URGE THAT WE CONTINUE THE WIDENING OF THIS PROJECT. IT HAS ALREADY BEEN FUNDED, AND EASEMENTS ARE BEING HANDLED SO THAT IT CAN BE, AND WE SHOULD STAY ON THIS PROJECT. UH, TO ECHO MAYOR JOHANSON. IT'S, UH, IN MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM, WE FACE 2 0 5, LIKE IT'S, I WOULD RATHER WALK IN A ROOM FULL OF LEGOS BAREFOOT THAN DRIVE ON 2 0 5 5 48 WINDMILL FARM TO 2 0 5 NEEDS IMPROVEMENT TO RELIEVE CONGESTION ALONG THE EAST WEST AXIS FROM JUST SOUTH OF MCLENNAN CHISHOLM TO FORNEY. THIS IS NEEDED AND SHOULD BE EXPANDED TO A FOUR LA A FOUR LANE UNDIVIDED, ULTIMATELY, POSSIBLY A SIX LANE DIVIDED AND WILL HELP ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC FROM THE MAN DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING. FM 3 0 9 7 OR HORIZON ROAD FROM TUBS TO FM 5 49. THIS WILL OPEN ACCESS TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HUFFINES DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS UNDERWAY FM FIVE 50 AT 2 0 5 FM FIVE 50 FROM WEST OF MEADOW PARK DRIVE TO EAST OF GREEN HOLLOW LANE, 1.5 MILLION PROJECT TO ADDRESS INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT FM 5 52 0 5, A SAFETY REALIGNMENT AND ALIGNMENT STUDY ON FM FIVE 50. ALSO, AS A SIDE NOTE, WE NEED A PROTECTED ARROW AT ALL. THE TURNS ON THAT LIGHT FM 5 49 FROM SEVEN 40 TO 2 0 5, RECONSTRUCTION AND WIDENING FROM A TWO LANE ROADWAY TO A FOUR LANE ROADWAY WITH INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS FM 5 48 FROM STATE HIGHWAY 2 0 5 TO STATE HIGHWAY 2 76, EXISTING, PLANNED AND ANTICIPATED DEVELOPMENTS, DEMAND 5 48 BE ASSESSED AND PLANNED FOR EXPANSION. NOW THAT, NOW A ROAD THAT CAN GO MANY WAYS, THE OUTER LOOP, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE OUTER LOOP IS A ACCESS FOR NORTH SOUTH, SOUTH NORTH ACCESS FOR THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTY, SOUTH OF I 30 STATE HIGHWAY 2 76, PROVIDING FOR DIRECT ACCESS FROM MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM AREA TO ROYCE CITY AREA. AND A RELIEF OF ADDITION CONGESTION ON 2 0 5 FLOWING THROUGH THE HEART OF MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM. IT IS CONTENTIOUS WHEN WE SPEAK OF THE OUTER LOOP. UM, BUT IT IS ALSO A CRITICAL ISSUE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM WILL CARRY A LOT OF THE BURDEN WITH THE HEAVY TRAFFIC ON 2 0 5. YOU KNOW, I, I, I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT MAYOR JOHANSON SAID, AND EVEN LACEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WHEN MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE HEAR, UH, AND WE HEARD IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING IS, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE ROADS ARE NOT PREPARED, BUT THEY'RE COMING. AND WHILE I BELIEVE ALL THE MAYORS AND THE, THE COMMISSIONERS AND COUNTY JUDGE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE OF HAVING CONTROLLED SAFE DEVELOPMENT IS STILL GONNA BE AN INCREASE IN THAT TRAFFIC, IT'S STILL GONNA BE AN INCREASE IN CONGESTION. AND TO ME, THE OUTER LOOP IS CRUCIAL IN RELIEVING 2 0 5, UH, AT LEAST IN MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM NOW, WHERE IT'S LAID OUT AND WHERE IT ENDS. UM, I, I GUESS THAT'S STILL UP FOR DEBATE, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR THE OUTER LOOP, UM, JUST TO RELIEVE SOME 2 0 5 TRAFFIC. UM, THE CURRENT COUNTY THOROUGHFARE PLAN ADOPTED IN 2018 NO LONGER REFLECTS THE NEEDS OF MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM AND IS NOT SYNCHRONIZED WITH THE CITY THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT ADOPTED IN 2021. THE COUNTY THOROUGHFARE PLAN NEEDS TO BE REVISED AND UPDATED. ALSO ACCELERATED DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE SOUTHEASTERN PART OF THE [00:20:01] COUNTY. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT FM FIVE 50 AND 5 48 BE REASSESSED AND BE PLACED ON THE CONSORTIUM'S RADAR AND EVENTUALLY INTEGRATED INTO THE PRIORITY LIST. NEITHER FIVE 50 OR 5 48 ARE VIABLE ROADS FOR HANDLING INCREASED TRAFFIC LOADS. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY ABOUT ALL I GOT. WE HAVE SOME LOCAL ROADS IN OUR CITY. UM, MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY KNOW NOW. EDWARDS ROAD HAS BEEN CLOSED DOWN. UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN IT, I, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER LTI DROVE IT RECENTLY. UM, I KNOW JUDGE NEW IS ON TOP OF IT, BUT IT IS UNSAFE. WE HAD A HOUSE FIRE, UH, IN SONOMA VERDE, AND MUTUAL AID CAME FROM ROY CITY. THANK YOU, ROY CITY. BUT I BELIEVE THEIR FIRE ENGINE WENT INTO THE SHOP BECAUSE THE GPS TOOK 'EM DOWN TO EDWARDS ROAD AND THEY MADE IT THERE, HELPED WITH THE FIRE, BUT THEN THEIR ENGINE WENT INTO THE SHOP BECAUSE THE, THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT IT'S A TWO AND A HALF FOOT DROP ON EDWARDS. SO IT WAS, IT WAS DEEMED THAT IT NEEDED TO BE CLOSED. UM, CONNIE ROAD AND MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM'S, ANOTHER ONE. UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN ON CONNIE ROAD, I SAY BEST WALK, IT MIGHT BE EASIER. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, MY MAYOR PRO TIM, DAN TUCKER IS ON ROADS, UM, CONSORTIUM, AND HE BRINGS, UM, A LOT OF GOOD INPUT WHEN HE'S AT THOSE MEETINGS. HE ALWAYS BRINGS BACK THE FEEDBACK. UM, I SUPPORT HIM WHEN HE'S AT THOSE MEETINGS AND THE, AND THE INPUT HE DOES FOR THE CITY. SO IF HE HAD ANYTHING HE WANTED TO ECHO, I KNOW HE'S HERE, HE CAN, UM, HE'D PROBABLY BE ABLE TO SPEAK BETTER ON ANY QUESTIONS. I'M HOPING THAT Y'ALL GIVE ME THE SAME COURTESY YOU GAVE MAYOR JO HANON WITH NO QUESTIONS. BUT, UH, I'M DONE IF YOU HAVE IT. I, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, SIR ROGER THAT. YEAH. UH, WHO, WHO I SAW COMMISSIONER LICK D WAS. YEAH. HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT, MAYOR. APPRECIATE IT. UM, I DID DRIVE EDWARDS ROAD AND I WAS GLAD I JUST BOUGHT A NEW JEEP TO DRIVE ON IT. UM, SO ON THE LAST, AT THE LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THERE WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS WITHDRAWN FROM OUR AGENDA THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DISCUSS, BUT IT DEALS WITH ROADS AND IT'S ON THE COUNTY THOROUGHFARE PLAN. UM, IT'S, IT, I THINK THE TITLE ON THE LAST AGENDA WAS THAT IT'D BE THAT RABBIT RIDGE BE REMOVED FROM, UM, THE COUNTY THOROUGHFARE PLAN, I THINK IS HOW THAT READ, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. OKAY. I, I WASN'T AT THE LAST COMMISSIONER'S MEETING. OH, YOU MISSED A LOT OF FUN. WELL, AND IT LASTED A LONG TIME. YOU COULD HAVE SPENT THE DAY HERE. I WAS, I WAS IN AUSTIN. YEAH, I KNOW YOU WERE DOING THE LORD'S WORK FOR US DOWN THERE, AND THANK YOU. YES. APPRECIATE THAT. UM, BUT DOES, HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THIS, UH, THIS CITY OF MCLENNAN CHISHOLM LOOKED AT THIS ISSUE AT ALL ABOUT RABBIT RIDGE, AND DO YOU, HAVE YOU GUYS GOT AN OPINION ON THAT? MAYOR PRO TIM TUCKER SITS ON ROADS. HE MIGHT BE BEST TO ANSWER. OKAY. ANY OF THE ROADS QUESTIONS IF HE'S PREPARED TO COME UP. I, I, I HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A, IS RABBIT RIDGE HEATH OR MCCLENDON CHISHOLM? I THINK IT'S HEATH. IT'S IT'S HEATH. BUT I THINK IT CONNECTS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS A, THERE IS A PART, I THINK IT CONNECTS, IT'S SPLIT. IT THERE IS A PART ON THE RABBIT WEDGE. YEAH, IT IS HEATH, BUT IT IS SPLIT, I THINK IT, IT RUNS ADJACENT TO MCCLENDON CHM. AND THAT'S AT AT LEAST ONE PART OF IT. AND THAT'S WHY I ASK, I COULD BE WRONG. I, BUT I'VE DRIVEN IT. BUT, AND, AND I WASN'T REALLY CLEAR WHAT THE, WHAT THE ITEM WAS ON THE AGENDA, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT MM-HMM . UM, BUT I KNOW PART OF RABBIT RIDGE IS CONSTRUCTED AND DRIVEN, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT REMOVING THAT FROM THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. UM, BUT I JUST, JUST ASKING SINCE IT'S ADJACENT TO YOUR CITY, I BELIEVE, OR I WONDERED IF YOU GUYS HAD AN OPINION ON IT. I MEAN, AND I GUESS THE ANSWER IS NO. WELL, FOR NOW, I'D PROBABLY NOW SAY NO. YEAH. NO, I DON'T HAVE, I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. YEAH, YOU'RE, IT'S FINE. UM, YEAH. I, I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE ONE AGAIN, MAYOR PRO TIM TUCKER MAY HAVE MORE INPUT. I, I, THE ONLY THING I KNOW ABOUT RABBIT RIDGE IS, UH, IT IS, THERE IS SOME SPLIT OWNERSHIP ON IT. YEAH. WELL, I'M SURE I'LL HAVE A QUESTION SIMILAR FOR THEN FOR MAYOR MCCLURE, IF HE IS SPEAKS, LOOKS LIKE HE'S NOT SPEAKING. YEAH, I YOU ALWAYS ASK HIM NOW. YEAH. MR. MAYOR, I, I HAVE, UH, SO YOU, YOU GAVE US THE LIST. 2 0 5 5 48 30 97. FIVE 50 AND 5 49. IS [00:25:01] THAT THE PRIORITY LIST? YEAH. AND I CAN LEAVE THAT WITH YOU. I DIDN'T NOT, NO, NO. I I, IT, I WAS NOT, I I WOULD LIKE TO GET A COPY OF IT IF YOU CAN. YEAH. I'M, I'M GONNA START PREPARING LIKE LACEY AND BRING HANDOUTS. UM, SHE WENT UP TO ME TODAY. TODAY IT, IT'S HARD TO GOOD LUCK. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN GET THERE. YEAH. SHE WENT UP TO ME. IT'S BASICALLY, I'M CONFERRING WITH HER FROM NOW ON. IT, IT IS HARD TO OUT PREPARE AN ENGINEER, BUT YOU GET IT. YOU, YOU JUST, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE. THE ENGINEERS WILL BE MORE PREPARED. DANG IT. UM, NO, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. SO, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT IS ON THE ART LIST OF THINGS WE'RE GOING TO GO FIGHT FOR RIGHT ON AND DEMAND THAT OUR COUNTY GET, UH, IN, IN 2 0 5. WE, WE'VE ALREADY GOT. YES. AND, AND I, I KNOW IT'S RIDICULOUS SAYING THAT AND ANYBODY SITTING AT HOME THAT SAID, OH NO, NO, TWO OH FIVE'S DONE. WELL, OUR JUDGE HAS BEEN DRINKING 'CAUSE HE 2 0 5 IS NOT DONE WELL ON THE FRONT END. IT'S DONE. THE FUNDING IS DONE. SO IT'S, WE, WE'VE PUSHED IT THROUGH THE SYSTEM. NOW WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO, TO, TO INCREASE THE SPEED OF WHICH IT GETS DONE. NOW IT'S MOVING AT THE SPEED OF, UH, OF STATE CONTRACTS ABSOLUTELY. IS WHAT IT'S DOING. UH, BUT OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO GO BACK AND, AND START FIGHTING FOR THE OTHERS SO THAT WHEN 2 0 5 IS DONE, UM, YEAH, WE WE'RE, YEAH. AND I MEAN, I, I KNOW I'LL GET WITH MAYOR PRO TIM TUCKER ON IT AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL STAY IN THE FIGHT AND ALIGN WITH THE, THE CONSORTIUM AND, AND HELP ANY WAY WE CAN ON ANYTHING. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR NOPE. SOUNDS GOOD. NOPE. . THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK Y'ALL. JUDGE, I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. UM, JUST LOOKING, DO WE HAVE THE, THE VARIOUS CITIES, UM, MOST RECENT UPDATED THOROUGHFARE PLANS THAT THEY HAVE ADOPTED FOR THEIR CITIES? 'CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE ONE THAT WAS ADOPTED OBVIOUSLY FOR US IN 2019, AND THEY'RE ALL ABOUT AS OUTDATED ON THIS FORM AS, AS, AS OURS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALK WHILE WE'RE TALKING. SO YEAH, I, I I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. OKAY. OKAY. UH, I WOULD SUSPECT NOT. I WOULD SUSPECT. OKAY. WE SHOULD PROBABLY TRY TO GET COPIES OF THEM. YEAH. YEP. YEP. UH, AND MATTER OF FACT, WE WILL DO THAT BY SAYING IF ALL THE CITIES COULD SEND US YOUR MOST CURRENT, UH, THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UH, NEXT, EXCUSE ME, NEXT ON THE LIST. STEVEN DOWNS, EXCUSE ME. UH, STEVEN DOWNS, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, CITY OF FATE. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. UH, THE, THE PRIORITIES FOR US ARE ALREADY LISTED OUT IN THE, THE CONSORTIUM'S LIST AS WELL. AND JUST WANTED TO REITERATE, UH, THE NEED FOR SOME OF THOSE. UM, FIRST ONE, UH, 5 52, OBVIOUSLY THE UTILITY RELOCATION SCHEDULED FOR MAY, MAY 26TH. THAT ONE OB WITH, WITH FATE WORTHY HIGH SCHOOL OPENING FALL OF 27. UH, WE OBVIOUSLY ANTICIPATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC STARTING TO HEAD UP THAT WAY. THE CITY WITH, UH, WITH HELP WITH THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL BE CONSTRUCTING OUR MS. MAY DRIVE, WHICH WILL HELP CONNECT WOOD CREEK, ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR BUSTING IN THAT AREA, AND PROVIDE, UH, QUICK ACCESS TO, TO LIMIT SOME OF THE TRAFFIC OFF 66 AND, AND 5 52. UM, AS YOU, AS YOU KNOW, IT OPENS FALL OF 27, BUT JUST WITH FRESHMAN SOPHOMORES. SO WE REALLY ANTICIPATE THAT FALL OF 28 BEING THE HEAVY TRAFFIC OF, OF STUDENT DRIVERS. AND SO, UM, OUR HOPE TOO IS TO HAVE AT LEAST SOME PORTION OF THAT COMPLETED WITH TRAFFIC SIGNALS BEFORE THE STUDENTS START DRIVING, UH, UP THAT WAY FALL OF 28. UM, BUT, UH, WE'VE, WE HAVE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE'VE COMPLETED A PROPERTY ACQUISITION FOR THE MS. MAY DRIVE CONNECTION. THAT IS ALL DONE, IT SHOULD BE APPROVED IN OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, UH, NEXT WEEK. BUT WE'VE REACHED AGREEMENT WITH ALL PROPERTY OWNERS ON THAT AS WELL. UM, SOUTH BEND PAYNE, THAT, THAT ONE OBVIOUSLY IS, IS ON THE CONSORTIUM LIST. BUT, UH, UM, AS WE ANTICIPATE THE NEW INTERCHANGE, UH, COMING WITH THE I 30 EXPANSION, UM, WE HAVE MET WITH A, A LOT OF INTERESTED PARTIES ON THE, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT, NAMELY PRIMARY JOBS. UM, WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ABOUT A EIGHT MONTHS AGO TO MEET WITH A COMPANY OUTTA SOUTH KOREA THAT WAS LOOKING TO EXPAND A NORTH AMERICAN, UH, OPERATIONS. UM, THEY DID CHOOSE ANOTHER SITE IN THE, UH, DALLAS-FORT WORTH AREA, UH, DUE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE LIMITATIONS IN THAT AREA. BUT AS WE WERE MEETING WITH A, A SITE SELECTOR GROUP THAT WAS REPRESENTING THIS COMPANY, UM, THEY DID MENTION IS THEY HAVEN'T COME OUT TO ROCKWELL COUNTY, THIS SPECIFIC GROUP AS OFTEN AS THEY WERE DRIVING DOWN 30, LOOKING AT PROPERTIES IN BOTH ROCKWALL AND FATE. UH, WHAT THEY DID MENTION IS THAT THERE IS VERY LIMITED, AND HE COULDN'T THINK OF ANOTHER AREA IN THE DFW AREA WHERE THERE WILL BE INTERCHANGE AND RAIL ACCESS. AND SO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PRIMARY JOBS IN THIS AREA IS VERY, UH, VERY HIGH AND WILL BE, ESPECIALLY AS THAT INTERCHANGE COMES IN. BUT THEY DID MENTION THAT THAT OBVIOUSLY [00:30:01] GIVEN THE, THE PRIMARY JOBS AND THE TYPE OF USE THAT YOU WOULD SEE ALONG A RAIL AND INTERCHANGE USE THAT BEN PAYNE ROAD DOES, SOMETHING HAS GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE FOR THEIR ACCESS TO BE, UH, POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE COMING. AND SO, UM, WE'VE APPRECIATE OBVIOUSLY THE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW THAT'S, UM, BEING CONSIDERED FOR DESIGN, UH, UTILIZING, UH, UH, ENGINEERING FIRMS SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT THE NEEDS AND, AND, UH, ESTIMATED COST OF THE BEND PAIN EXPANSION WOULD BE. UM, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT AREA, WHICH IS ZONED A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR COMMERCIAL AND PRIMARY JOB TYPE USE. UH, NO, UH, RESIDENTIAL ZONED IN THAT AREA. UM, THE NEED FOR THAT WIDENING BEING HIGH, WE JUST FINISHED IN NORTH BEND PANE THAT SHOULD OPEN THIS WEEK AS TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UH, SHOULD BE INSTALLED AND SET. UM, AND THEN, UM, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, AGAIN, A HIGH NEED FOR THE SOUTH BEND PANE. SO, UM, WE APPRECIATE ANY SUPPORT THERE. UH, 5 51 IS OBVIOUSLY OUR OTHER, UH, HIGH PRIORITY ONE, WHICH Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF. UM, I THINK WE'RE REACHING NEAR THE END OF ALL THE DESIGN, UM, WITH SCHEMATICS, UH, BEING APPROVED IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR AND ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE LATER. UM, I GET A LOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT YOU'LL, IS, IS HAPPENING, THERE'S A PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT JUST ON THAT CORNER FOR A LARGE, UH, RETAIL, UH, CENTER, ABOUT 26 ACRES WITH A LARGE, UH, UH, GROCER ANCHOR THAT I CAN'T BE NAMED YET. UM, BUT THAT 5 51 WIDENING, WHICH GOES THROUGH OUR DOWNTOWN, CONNECTS TO 66 AND THEN SHOOTS DOWN TO 2 76. UH, THAT'S A HIGH PRIORITY, UM, FOR US AS WELL. BUT WE APPRECIATE, AGAIN, ALL YOU DO, WE RECOGNIZE ALL THE NEEDS IN THE COUNTY, UM, AND WE'RE WILLING TO THROW OUR SUPPORT TOO AS WE GO DOWN TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE, UM, SOME FUNDING SENT OUR WAY TO HELP WITH SOME OF THESE NEEDS. SO THANK YOU. HEY, STEVEN, I, I HAVE A QUESTION. YEP. I PREEMPTED HUH? COMMISSIONER STACY, UH, HIGHWAY 66. YEP. SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY VITALLY IMPORTANT EAST WEST THOROUGHFARE, TE TELL ME JUST 20,000 FOOT VIEW CITY OF FAT'S THOUGHTS ON 66. WHAT, WHAT ULTIMATELY WOULD THE CITY OF FATE LIKE TO SEE? 66? I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE GOT ESSENTIALLY A HIGHWAY THAT'S, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR WE BACK WE'D HAVE TO GO TO GET TO A POINT WHERE IT WASN'T OVERWHELMED. YEP. UH, GENERATIONS. UH, WHAT, WHAT ULTIMATELY WOULD, WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO SEE? 66? YEAH, I MEAN, WE, WE OBVIOUSLY SEE THAT AS A HUGE NEED MOVING THROUGH THE COUNTY AS WELL. OBVIOUSLY THE, UH, COST OF WIDENING THAT GIVEN SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE POWER POLES, MAKES IT VERY CHALLENGING, REALLY ONLY ONE WAY TO, TO MOVE. UM, THERE, THERE OBVIOUSLY IS AN IMPACT TO THE CITY OF FAY, BUT WE, WE HAVE A LOT MORE EMPTY LAND THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE GONNA BE IMPACTED THAT HAVE DEVELOPMENT UP TO BOTH SIDES. SO WE SEE, WE SEE IT BEING IMPORTANT, BUT, UH, IT HASN'T BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF OF OUR TIME DISCUSSING AS WE HAVE SOME, THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES THAT, THAT WE SEE FOR THE CITY OF FATE, UH, BEING MORE CRUCIAL IN THE SHORT TERM. BUT WE RECOGNIZE 66 IS SOMETHING LONG TERM'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT THE SAME WAY SHOOTING THROUGH OUR DOWNTOWN AND OTHER AREAS THAT ARE IMPACTING THAT WILL BE MORE IMPACTED LIKE ROCKWELL OR ROYCE CITY. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. MY QUESTION WAS TO ROCHELLE, THE CONTINUATION OF BEND PAIN. SO YOU'VE DONE THE NORTHERN SECTION, I GUESS, TO ABOUT MONTARA. YEP. AND THEN THERE'S STILL A PLANNING SECTION FROM BEN PAYNE TO GET TO 5 52. YEP. BUT, BUT IS, BUT WHAT IS THE CITY OF FAT'S PLAN TO GET FROM INTERSTATE 30 TO 2 76 ONCE WE OPEN THAT UP AND, AND WE BUILD BEN PAYNE? AND I WAS JUST GONNA ASK YOU TO COMMENT ON THAT. YEAH. WE'VE DONE SOME RECENT PROPERTY ACQUISITION FOR ROCHELLE AS WELL, UM, SPECIFICALLY ON THE EAST SIDE AS YOU'RE COMING SOUTH OFF OF I 30. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TO HAVE THAT, WE, AND AGAIN, RELATIVELY, RELATIVELY NEW TO THE AREA. UH, WE'VE JUST BEEN TO CITY FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. I HAVEN'T BEEN PARTY TO MANY DISCUSSIONS FURTHER SOUTH SHOOTING ALL THE WAY TO 2 76. UM, AS WE AGAIN, LOOK AT OUR, OUR PRIORITIES, WHICH ARE THOSE FEW, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, THAT THE BEEN PAYING CONTRACT HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED AND, UM, WE ARE JUST WAITING ON SOME RELEASE OF BOND FUNDS. IS THAT CORRECT? UM, COMMISSIONER TRACY, THE DESIGN, THE DESIGN IS FUNDED. WE'RE WAITING ON THEM TO SIGN THE CONTRACT. LIKE WE'RE IN THE NEGOTIATION PHASE WITH KIMBERLY HORN TO OH, OKAY. OKAY. KIM KIMBERLY HORN. OKAY. OKAY. FOR, FOR THE DESIGN. FOR THE DESIGN COMPONENT OF IT. YEP. RN HAS SIGNED THE CONTRACT. WE'RE WAITING ON THE ISSUANCE OF BOND FUNDS. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I HAD BEEN TOLD. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. THANKS. SO ON, UH, COMMISSIONER MOCH, JUST TO GET THIS STRAIGHT. SO ON BEN PAYNE, THE, WE'VE SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM TO, TO DO THE WORK FOR IT. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. BRENDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND JUST THAT'S MY WHAT I WAS TOLD, UM, LAST WEEK WHEN WE WERE GETTING READY FOR THE CONSORTIUM MEETING. DO DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STEVEN OR CAN HE WELL, IT KIND [00:35:01] OF, YOU BEEN PAIN WAS ONE OF YOUR NUMBER ONES TALKED ABOUT. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING THAT BRENDA CALLOWAY REPRESENTING ITS, WE HAVE NEGOTIATED THE CONTRACT FOR BEN PAYNE WITH KIMLEY HORN. KIMLEY HORN HAS SIGNED IT. WE'VE GOT THE CONTRACT IN HAND. WE'RE WAITING TO BRING IT TO YOU FOR SIGNATURE, FOR ISSUANCE OF BOND FUNDS. RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY BOND FUNDS TO, TO FUND THE ENGINEERING PORT PART OF THAT CONTRACT. AND, AND THAT WAS YOU, YOU HEARD THAT FROM THE AUDITOR, THE BOND FUNDS? IS THAT YOU WERE TOLD? WELL, IT'S, IT'S WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT ON THE BOND FUNDS AND WHAT WE HAVE REMAINING IN COOPERATION WITH THE AUDITOR. YES. OKAY. AND, AND THAT, THAT CONTRACT HAS BEEN SIGNED, IS IT FOR WHAT DESIGN SERVICES ON THE, IT'S FOR DESIGN SERVICES, YES, SIR. AND THAT WOULD BE ALL THE WORK, ALL THE ENGINEERING WORK NECESSARY PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF ACQUIRING RIGHT AWAY IN MOVING UTILITIES AND BUILDING THE ROAD. IT'S A TWO PHASE CONTRACT. UM, WE HAVE ITEMS THAT WE INITIATE WITH THEM, AND THAT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE SCHEMATIC AND THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. THEN WE HAVE, UM, WORK AND TASKS FOR THEM TO PERFORM. WHEN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TELLS THEM THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WE WOULD NEGOTIATE ANOTHER FEE WITH THEM THEN. AND THAT'S FOR THE ENGINEERING PART OF IT, THE PSE, THE, THE PLANS, UM, ANY RIGHT OF WAY AND ANY RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION YOU WOULD LIKE THEM TO MOVE FORWARD ON. IS THAT PART OF THIS CONTRACT TOO? YES. SO IT'S ALL IN ONE CONTRACT. IT'S ALL IN ONE CONTRACT. IT'S JUST PHASED. UM, AND, AND YOU CONTROL WHEN YOU ALLOW THEM TO MOVE FORWARD. SO THE FIRST PHASE THAT WE'VE NEGOTIATED FEES ON IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE SCHEMATIC AND THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STEVEN? OKAY. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, WELL I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. ALMOST, ALMOST, SORRY. UM, SO YOU, IF I'VE GOT THIS RIGHT, SIR, YOU, YOU LISTED THREE PROJECTS, FM 5 52 SOUTH BEND PAIN AND FM 5 51. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S PRIORITIES FOR YOU? CORRECT. ANY, UH, ORDERING OF THOSE PRIORITIES OR JUST ALL REAL IMPORTANT? YEAH, I MEAN, ALL, IF WE HAD TO FOCUS ON ONE, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IT SHOULD BE? OR, OR YOU CAN'T, IF YOU CAN'T SAY THAT, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. SOUTH BEND PAIN IS THE ONE THAT I THINK IS WHERE THE FUNDING EXACTLY WILL COME FROM, IS MORE, MORE OF A QUESTION. 5 52, 5 51 ARE BOTH STATE OWNED ROADS. IT'S JUST THAT THEIR PRIORITIES OF WHEN THEY FUND THOSE, UM, OF THOSE, I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO PUT ONE OF THE OTHER, THE 5 52 WITH THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL NOT BEING COMPLETED. WE, WE SEE THAT AS A, A REAL CHALLENGE WITHOUT TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AND ALL THAT 5 51, THE CONGESTION'S ALREADY THERE, AND WE'RE A FEW YEARS PROBABLY FROM THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS JUST HAPPENED COMING TO FRUITION AND BEING, UH, OPEN. UM, BUT IT, YEAH, HARD FOR OUR, FOR ME TO DO THAT. SOUTH BEND PAIN IS THE ONE THAT I, I FEEL LIKE IS GONNA TAKE THE MOST WORK TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT FUNDING COMES FROM, UH, GIVEN THAT IT'S NOT A STATE OWNED ROAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP, BUT IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE MR. DAN TUCKER? I THINK MAYOR PROTI, DAN TUCKER. JUST A, JUST A QUICK COMMENT, UH, JUST IN SUPPORT OF MY MAYOR, UM, I ALSO SAW THAT AGENDA ITEM ON THE, UH, THE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE IT WAS. AND I WAS A LITTLE PERPLEXED BY IT. AS FAR AS RABBIT RIDGE GOES, THERE'S BEEN NO CONVERSATIONS AS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT. IF THERE IS A PROJECT TO BE DONE DOWN THERE. I KNOW THAT SOME, FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO, UH, THERE WAS SOME REPAIR WORK DONE ON THAT. UH, HOWEVER, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, THROUGH THE CITY OF HEATH. UM, I, I DO KNOW THAT HUFFINES, UH, MUD, UH, A BUTTS UP AGAINST THAT. SO THAT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS. BUT BEYOND THAT, WE, THE CITY OF MCCLENDON CHISHOLM HASN'T INFORMED ABOUT ANY CHANGES, MODIFICATIONS, OR OTHERWISE ASSOCIATED WITH THE RAPID RIDGE. BUT THAT BEING THE CASE, I'LL, I'LL START TO INVESTIGATE AND SEE WHAT THE DESIRE WAS DOWN THERE ON THE PART OF THE COURT. I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER STACY, DID YOU, WAS THAT YOUR AGENDA ITEM WITH ROBERT RIDGE? COULD YOU, IS THERE ANY CLARIFICATION YOU COULD GIVE US ON THAT ITEM? UH, NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT WAS ALL PART OF A, UH, GONNA START A PUBLIC MEETING PROCESS, NOT AN IMMEDIATE REMOVAL. GOTCHA. OKAY. GET, GET WITH ME, UH, AFTERWARDS, DAN, I CAN GIVE YOU THE HISTORY, UH, OF THAT AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT. OH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. THAT WOULD BE GOOD. ON, ON THE RABBIT RIDGE. FANTASTIC. YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU. UM, OKAY, GREAT. BUT BEHIND THE SCENES BASEBALL. OKAY, GREAT. THANKS, JUDGE. YOU BET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT? JAMES BRANCH? ARE YOU MAYOR PRO TEM AS WELL? MR. BRANCH? UH, NO SIR. CITY COUNCIL. CITY COUNCIL CITY COUNCILMAN ROYCE CITY. YES, SIR. UH, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC QUESTION [00:40:01] THAT COMMISSIONER LICHTY HAD FOR, UH, LACEY. SO THE COUNCIL HAS NOT TAKEN OFFICIAL VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SUPPORT OR DO NOT SUPPORT THE OUTER LOOP. HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL IS AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE OUTER LOOP AND WHAT IT BRINGS TO OUR CITY FROM NOT ONLY TRANSPORTATION, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE, UM, BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH THE SOUTH END OF, OF RIGHT THROUGH OUR CITY. SO WE DO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE. IF YOU WISH FOR US TO HAVE A FORMAL RESOLUTION, I CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THAT BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND, AND GET THAT FOR YOU, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO. UM, IT WOULD JUST BE WHATEVER YOU PREFER. BUT WE WORK ON THE CONSORTIUM, AS YOU KNOW, AND YEAH, THOSE ARE OUR PRIORITIES THAT WE SET FORTH TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT BACK IN 21 AND ALL THE WAY BACK WHEN COMMISSIONER MAGNUS BACK IN, I BELIEVE OH FIVE. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TAKE A FORMAL ACTION, I CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THAT BACK TO THEM. I, I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO DO THAT. OKAY. NO, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR THIS BECAUSE AS, UH, EVERYONE AS, UH, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, COMMISSIONER STACY READ INTO THE RECORD, UH, AN EMAIL THAT WAS RECEIVED FROM, UM, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL NET COG, AND IT TALKED ABOUT NEGOTIATIONS. AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A UNDERSTANDING WHAT PEOPLE WANT AND DON'T WANT. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EVEN APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY TO TAKE A POSITION ON THAT. SO I'M CERTAINLY NOT ASKING YOU TO DO IT. I, YOU GUYS CAN RUN ROYCE CITY A LOT BETTER THAN I CAN. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND, UM, I, I DON'T THINK AT LEAST, UM, COMMISSIONER STACY HASN'T REACHED OUT TO ME, UH, FROM MY OPINION AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE TO ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT OUR POSITION, UM, OR CITY STAFF FOR THAT MATTER. I KNOW LACEY IS HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH, UH, ITS AND, AND COMMUNICATING WITH RTC AND, AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THE TRANSPORTATION CONSORTIUM. SO OUR PRIORITIES ARE, THE COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES ARE THE CITY'S PRIORITIES. SO WHAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED BEFORE YOU IS WHERE WE STAND. IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING MORE, WE CAN, BUT THAT IS WHERE WE ADD, AND WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR CITIZENS AND FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. AS LACEY SAID, I, I THINK WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT A TODAY PROJECT. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WILL BE 10, 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN. SO I, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO KEEP EVERYTHING IN PERSPECTIVE AND WHERE THIS COUNTY IS GROWING AND NOT LOOK AT IT TODAY, BUT LOOK AT IT PAST ALL OF YOU, PAST ME PAST PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT YOUR DECISION DOESN'T AFFECT A LOT OF US. IT AFFECTS OUR GRANDKIDS AND, AND MORE AND THE FUTURE GROWTH. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE KEEP THAT IN MIND. THANKS. AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BEAUTIES OF THE ROAD CONSORTIUM WE HAVE, THAT WE CAN ALL DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS THERE AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WORK RESOLUTIONS WILL WORK FOR EVERYBODY. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. GRANDKIDS. YES, SIR. APPRECIATE YOU. YEAH, THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT? MARY, MS. MARY SMITH, CITY MANAGER, CITY OF ROCKWALL. COME ON UP. YOU STOLE MY FIRST LINE. OH, SORRY. . WE HAVE THE OUTER LOOP ON THE CITY OF ROCKWELL'S PLANNING DOCUMENTS GOING BACK TO THE MID TWO THOUSANDS. WE PURPOSEFULLY ANNEXED OUT FAR ENOUGH AND WITH OUR TWO MILE ETJ HAVE, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR, OUR ETJ MAPS, YOU'LL SEE THIS WEIRD CURVE OUT TO THE EAST THAT IS THE 5 48 INTERCHANGE THAT WE KNEW THE OUTER LOOP WOULD BE COMING THROUGH THERE. AND WE'VE ALWAYS PLANNED SO THAT WE HAD JUST A BIT OF THAT ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT THE OUTER LOOP WOULD BE. SO WE, WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD THAT IN OUR DOCUMENTS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS WOULD'VE, WHICH HAVE BEEN ON THE CONSORTIUM LIST FOR YEARS NOW, SUCH AS NORTH GOAD WAS INCLUDED IN THE 2021 BONDS THAT THE MAYOR MENTIONED. CLEARLY PEOPLE CAME WITHOUT THE ROAD. WE HAVE ENTERED INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR US TO BEGIN THE VERY FIRST STEPS OF RE-IMAGINING NORTH GOLIAD AND HOW TO TURN THAT INTO A CITY STREET ONCE JOHN KING IS DONE. WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD IN CHOOSING THE ENGINEER TO DO THAT WORK, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE UNDER AGREEMENT WITH YOU BECAUSE THERE IS NO FUNDING. THAT WAS IN THE 2021 BONDS THAT YOU HAVEN'T ISSUED ANY OF VILLAGE DRIVE BRIDGE IS ONE THAT COG IS GOING TO PUT MONEY INTO, BUT IT HAS A LOCAL MATCH FROM THE COUNTY AND [00:45:01] PROBABLY SOME FROM US. BUT THAT'S 2021 BOND, UM, HORIZON ROAD, EXCUSE ME. MM-HMM . I DIDN'T GET THE NAME OF THAT. YOU JUST MENTIONED VILLAGE DRIVE BRIDGE. VILLAGE DRIVE. THE ONE THAT GOES INTO LAKESIDE VILLAGE. OKAY. THAT BRIDGE HORIZON ROAD BETWEEN 30 AND RIDGE ROAD, WHICH REALLY SHOULD BE A STATE ROADWAY, BUT IS A CITY STREET WE BUILT IN 1994. AND YOU CAN TELL IT WAS BUILT THAT LONG AGO NOW. SO IT IS ONE THAT WAS ON THE COUNTY, 2021 BONDS, BUT CAN'T MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THERE'S NO BOND MONEY ISSUED. THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE MEETING TODAY'S NEED, YESTERDAY'S NEED FIVE YEARS, AGO'S NEED THAT CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THOSE 21 BONDS BEING ISSUED. SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE PRIORITIES THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US. ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I JUST WANT TO, UM, LET, LET YOU KNOW THAT THE JUDGE AND I HAVE SPOKEN IN REGARDS TO THE VILLAGE DRIVE BRIDGE. GOOD. AND I PLAN TO GIVE YOU A CALL AND, AND TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. GREAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER TI THAT'S IN PRECINCT TWO HAVE VERY MANY THAT PRECINCT. NO, AND I'M VERY HAPPY IT IS IN PRECINCT TWO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? THANK YOU, MARY. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, SEE YOU. NO ONE. WE WILL MOVE TO AGENDA [2. Discussion of Road priorities, and all related issues;] ITEM NUMBER TWO, DISCUSSION OF ROAD PRIORITIES AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. SO AGAIN, UH, COMMISSIONER'S WORKSHOP, THIS IS WHERE WE GET TO TALK AND DISCUSS AND, AND, AND TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT, WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF COMING UP WITH A LIST THAT WE'RE GOING TO AUSTIN TO ADVOCATE FOR, UH, UM, COMING UP WITH A LIST OF ITEMS THAT, OF ROADS THAT WE WANT ON THE UTP. UM, SO, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO, SO IS I, I, SORRY, I, I WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING. UM, WHEN YOU SAY PUT IT ON GO TO AUSTIN, IS THIS SEPARATE FROM THE CONSORTIUM OR, UH, HOW, HOW IS, HOW DO WE, HOW IS THIS WORKING, FIRST OF ALL WITH THE CONSORTIUM? AND THEN I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE UTP. OKAY. SO, UH, I WOULD SAY NOT NECESSARILY SEPARATE FROM THE CONSORTIUM. OKAY. BUT THE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE IN AUSTIN. WE CAN SIT HERE AT THIS DAIS AND SIT AT THE CONSORTIUM AND MAKE ALL THE PLANS. WE WANT THE PEOPLE CONTROLLING THE FUNDING, DETERMINE WHEN AND WHERE AND, AND, AND HOW, AND WHAT, WHAT ROADWAYS OR T STOCK GONNA DO. WHAT ROADWAYS ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO DO. SO THIS IS IN, IN, IN MY OPINION, US ADVOCATING GETTING TO THE DECISION MAKERS, UH, AND, UH, ATTEMPTING TO DIRECT SOME OF THOSE FUNDS. AND WE'VE ALREADY GOT SOME ROADS ON THE UTP, RIGHT? UH, WE, WE, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, WE, WE DO, UH, WE'VE GOT ONE, TWO, I THINK THERE'S LIKE FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM. YEAH. 2 0 5, UH, 5 48 AND 5 49, UH, 5 48 SOUTH OF 2 0 5, UH, TO THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY LINE 5 49, UH, 2 0 5 TO 2 76, AND THEN 2 0 5 SPLIT UP INTO NORTH, SOUTH AND MIDDLE. AND OKAY. LEMME UM, ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION HERE. SO GOING STRAIGHT TO THE UTP, OUR GOAL IS TO SPEED THIS PROCESS UP SOMEHOW. YES. OR ARE WE JUST, OR, AND, OR TRYING TO SECURE FUNDING READY TO LET PROJECTS QUICKER. WHAT, WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF POTENTIALLY GOING AROUND COG AND GOING STRAIGHT TO A UTP? JUST SO WE CAN CLARIFY. SO MY, MY GOAL IS TO GET OUR PROJECTS IN THE HOPPER TO, TO GET 'EM LINED UP BECAUSE RIGHT, RIGHT. AND AND WHY, WHY WOULD YOU PHRASE THAT AS GOING AROUND COG GOING TO YOUR STATE LEGISLATURES AND ASKING THEM TO FUND STATE ROADS DOESN'T PRECLUDE COG FROM THE PROCESS AT ALL? WELL, 'CAUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO GO MEET WITH THE RTC TO EVEN COME UP WITH A PLAN. WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD SAY, AND I CAN TELL YOU'RE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR UTP PLAN, WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS THAT THAT IS NOT THE WAY THAT WE HAVE CONDUCTED BUSINESS WITH THE CONSORTIUM AT ALL. AND SO UNILATERALLY DECIDING THAT AS A COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CONCERNING TO ME. AND I WANNA MAKE SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS AND MAKE IT CLEAR FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE. DID IS IT, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT IT WAS MY ANSWER. I MEAN, IS IT CLEAR? YOUR, YOUR, YOUR ANSWER IS CLEAR. [00:50:01] GOT IT. IT'S CLEAR. OKAY. I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S OKAY TO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. NO, ABSOLUTELY. AS TO WHAT OUR PLAN MIGHT BE. IT, IT, IT ABSOLUTELY IS. UM, IT, IT, IT'S STILL NOT REAL CLEAR TO ME. OKAY. I, I, I GET WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT I, I'M NOT FOR SURE. DO YOU HAVE SOME, DO YOU HAVE SOME BEST PRACTICES OF SOME OTHER COUNTIES WHO HAVE DONE THIS WITH SOME SUCCESS? CAN YOU SHARE SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT WE HAVE A, WE WE HAVE, YEAH. YEAH. IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S SOMEWHAT SIMPLE. WE WANTED TO PASS A ROAD RESOLUTION IN OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES WORKSHOP TO SAY WHAT ROADS ARE IMPORTANT. SO WE'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP TO SEE IF WE CAN, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THE ANSWER IS NO, WE CAN'T DO IT. THEN WE DON'T WRITE ONE. SO, SO, SO THE GOAL OF THIS IS DO WE WANT TO WRITE A RESOLUTION FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO GO ASK OUR STATE LEGISLATURES TO ADVOCATE FOR ROSE, BE ADDED IN THE UTP OR DO WE NOT? AND IT'S, IT, IT'S AN ANSWER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BRING, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF CHICKEN SCRATCH RESOLUTION INTO COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND SAY, WELL, HERE ARE THE SEVEN ROADS THAT, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER M**K THOUGHT OVER. HERE ARE THE FIVE ROADS THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GUANO WANTS TO BE ADDED TO. THE UTP IS, CAN WE GET OF ONE MIND AND SAY WE WANNA SUPPORT THIS OR NOT? DO WE WANT TO, DO WE WANT TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT OR DO WE NOT? THAT'S THE QUESTION BEFORE IS, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DRIVE ONE DIRECTION OR DRIVE ANOTHER DIRECTION, IT'S JUST THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO WRITE A RESOLUTION TO THE STATE LEGISLATORS SAY, THESE ARE THE ROADS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. SO THIS CAME OUT OF OUR LEGISLATIVE WORKSHOP OF SAYING, CAN WE WRITE A RESOLUTION? AND WE WANTED TO WRITE IT IN OUR LAST COURT. IT COULD SIMPLY BE A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE CONSORTIUM. IT CAN BE ALL KINDS OF THINGS. IT'S JUST AT WHAT POINT CAN WE GET OF ONE MIND AND TRY TO ADVOCATE IN AUSTIN AS WELL AS WITH COG, AS WELL AS WITH THE CONSULTANTS THAT WE PAY TO TRY TO SAY THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL OF THESE ROADS AND NONE OF THEM ARE FUNDED. WE JUST HAVE A BIG LAUNDRY LIST OF WISHES THAT WE HOPE CAN CONNECT AT SOME POINT. AND THE, AND THE HOPE THEN IS THAT, UH, YOU'LL SEC, YOU'LL GET ON THE UTP AND SECURE GUARANTEED FUNDING. THAT WOULD BE THE HOPE THAT MEAN WE CAN, AND THAT, SO I AGREED. AND THAT YOU FEEL MAYBE THE PROCESS NOW IS JUST TOO SLOW? IT'S, IT, IT'S TOO WISHY AND HOPEY FOR ME. OKAY. IT'S NOT, IT IS SLOW, BUT IT IS, WE'RE GOING TO ENGINEER A BUNCH OF STUFF. SO WE'RE, WE HAVE THIS LIST AND WE, AND, AND, UH, THE CONSORTIUM LIST, WHICH IS EXHAUSTIVE, AND THEN YOU WERE IN, WERE, I GUESS YOU WEREN'T AT THE LAST CONSORTIUM. AND OUR ITS SAID, HERE'S ALL THE STUFF THAT MIGHT NOT BE FUNDED. SO WE HAVE THIS LIST OF PROJECTS WE WANT, BUT THERE IS NO FUNDING MECHANISM. SO AS OUR ONLY DESIRE FOR FUNDING IS OUR ONLY ABILITY TO GET FUNDING TO JUST SIMPLY WAIT THE PROCESS OUT, WHICH COULD BE TRUE. AND THAT'S HOW WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT. UM, OR DO WE TRY TO SAY NO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME STATE ROADS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO US TO GET FUNDED, AND WE WOULD LIKE OUR STATE REPS TO WORK ON OUR BEHALF AND GET SOME OF THIS STUFF FUNDED BECAUSE ROADS ARE POLITICAL AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. IF I WERE TO GO DOWN TO AUSTIN AND MEET WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, I CANNOT UNDER ANY, I CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE COUNTY OF ROCKWALL TO SAY WHAT ROADS I THINK THEY NEED TO PUT INTO THE UTP. THAT MIGHT STILL BE THE CASE AFTER THIS MEETING. BUT THAT'S THE GOAL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, IS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TRY TO ACT AS A COURT TO SAY THE, THESE ROADS HAVE BEEN ISOLATED AS IMPORTANT. AND SO AS THE CITIES CAME UP AND SPOKE, OR WE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THEY LISTED AS THEIR PRIORITIES TO GO INTO THE UTP, IS THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY HOPE THAT WE WOULD DO. I MEAN, WHERE ELSE ARE WE GONNA GET THE LIST FROM? THAT SEEMS PRETTY SIMPLE THEN. YES. AND THEY PRETTY MUCH LISTED THEM ALL OUT. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. LET ME ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER STACY, WHAT ARE THE, ARE THE ONLY, SO, UH, THE JUDGE SAID WE'VE GOT THREE ROADS ALREADY ON THE UTP. I THOUGHT I WAS MORE THAN THAT, BUT YOU GUYS KNOW BETTER THAN I DO. SO WE'VE GOT THREE ALREADY. DOES THAT MEAN THE FUNDING'S BEEN PROVIDED? CORRECT. UH, I'M ASKING, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM ITS. BRENDA CALLOWAY? YES. BRENDA CALLOWAY. YEAH. UH, JUST TO MAKE SOME CLARIFICATION, UM, TO HELP WITH UNDERSTANDING ON THE UTP, THERE ARE FOUR CATEGORIES OF FUNDING. THAT'S, OR THREE CATEGORIES OF FUNDING THAT'S LISTED IN THE UTP. UH, ONE IS CATEGORY TWO. THOSE PROJECTS ARE SELECTED BY YOUR LOCAL NPO. OKAY. UM, THE SECOND, CAN YOU, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE WHAT THE NPO IS? YES. IT'S THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION. THEY'RE THE PLANNING ORGANIZATION FOR A 12 COUNTY REGION AND DFW, UH, THEY ARE TASKED [00:55:01] WITH DOING A METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN. UH, THAT'S NOT ONLY BASED ON PROJECTED TRAFFIC, BUT IT'S ALSO BASED ON AIR QUALITY CONFORMITY, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT QUITE A FEW NON-CONFORMING COUNTIES IN THIS REGION. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT PLAN. AND THAT'S REALLY THE FIRST STEP OF GETTING YOUR PROJECT FUNDED. AND YOU SAY THEY DO, YOU SAID THERE'S THREE CATEGORIES. THEY SELECT WHAT'S CALLED CATEGORY TWO? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. OKAY. THEN T DOT TDOT DISTRICTS SELECT CATEGORY FOUR. AND WHAT, WHAT IS CATEGORY FOUR? UH, IT IS, OKAY. CATEGORY TWO IS METROPOLITAN AND URBAN AREA CORRIDOR PROJECTS. OKAY. THE NPOS SELECT THOSE PROJECTS IN COORDINATION WITH THE TXDOT DISTRICTS. THEN YOU'VE GOT, UM, CATEGORY FOUR THAT'S IN THE UTP, THAT STATEWIDE CONNECTIVITY QUARTER PROJECTS. OKAY. OKAY. AND TXDOT SELECTS THOSE PROJECTS. THEN YOU'VE GOT CATEGORY 12 THAT'S IN THE UTP AND THAT'S STRATEGIC PRIORITY. AND THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION SELECTS THOSE PROJECTS. NOW, THOSE ARE JUST THE THREE. THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, WHO ARE THEY? MM-HMM . THAT'S THE COMMISSION THAT IS OVER TDOT. OH, OKAY. OKAY. DOWN IN AUSTIN. OKAY. NOW, THESE FUNDING CATEGORIES ARE NOT THE ONLY FUNDING CATEGORIES AVAILABLE TO FUND PROJECTS, BUT THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE LISTED SPECIFICALLY BY PROJECT IN THE UTP, THE OTHER, UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S 12 CATEGORIES OF WORK. THE OTHER NINE CATEGORIES ARE WHAT THEY CALL BANK BALANCE, UH, PROGRAMS. AND THEY GIVE A SUM OF MONEY TO THE TXDOT DISTRICTS AND TO COG TO SELECT PROJECTS. UM, BUT THEY'RE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE LISTED SPECIFICALLY IN THE UTP. OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE CATEGORY ONES. THAT'D BE CATEGORY ONES, WHICH IS YOUR REHAB. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDING LIST ON YOUR CONSORTIUM REPORT, A LOT OF TIMES TECH STOCK WILL USE CATEGORY ONE TO HELP, UM, BALANCE OVERAGES AND UNDER UNDERRUNS, UM, ON PROJECTS AND STUFF. UH, THAT'S LIKE YOUR CONGESTION MITIGATION AND AIR QUALITY, WHICH IS YOUR TRAILS, YOUR SIGNALS, YOUR TURN LANES, THAT TYPE OF THING. ON AND OFF SYSTEM BRIDGES. SO THERE'S A LOT OF CATEGORIES OF WORK THAT AREN'T SPECIFICALLY LINE ITEM LISTED IN THE UTP. OKAY. AND SO OF THE, THE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE GOT ON THE UTP, WE'VE GOT FIVE, BUT, OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. WHAT I, I'VE GOT 2 0 5, 5 48, 5 49. WHAT ARE THE OTHERS? YOU'VE GOT THREE SECTIONS OF 2 0 5. OH, OKAY. SO 2 0 5 BECOMES THREE INSTEAD OF ONE. YEAH. YEAH, THERE'S THREE SECTIONS. ALRIGHT, SO OF THOSE, LET'S JUST REFER TO THEM AS THREE FOR MY, OKAY. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGE SAID. UM, SO LET'S REFER TO 'EM THREE. OF THOSE THREE, WHICH CATEGORIES ARE THEY EACH IN? UH, SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN SPLIT. UH, WE LINE THOSE OUT IN YOUR CONSORTIUM REPORT. I'VE GOT IT RIGHT HERE. YES. PAGE 11. PAGE PAGE 11. BUT LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, 5 48 IS PARTIALLY FUNDED OR IS FULLY FUNDED IN CATEGORY TWO. UH, 5 49 IS FUNDED IN CATEGORY 4, 2 0 5. THE SECTION FROM SOUTH JOHN KING TO SOUTH OF 5 48. SO THE SOUTH PART PART OF IT IS IN CATEGORY TWO, IN CATEGORY FOUR, UHHUH, . UM, SO THERE'S A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY THERE. THERE'S 44 MILLION THERE COMING FROM YOUR LOCAL MPO FOR THAT PROJECT. 2 0 5 SAYS CATEGORY ONE, CATEGORY TWO, AND CATEGORY FOUR. BUT YOU PREVIOUSLY JUST SAID CATEGORY TWO, FOUR, AND 12. SO WHAT'S CATEGORY ONE? THAT'S REHAB. THAT'S FUNDING THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED BY YOUR DALLAS DISTRICT TDOT. OKAY. AND LIKE I SAID, SOMETIMES THEY USE THAT FOR, FOR OVERRUNS. IT'S A, IT'S A CATEGORY OF WORK THAT THEY CAN USE TO HELP YOU CLOSE A GAP IF THERE'S A GAP IN FUNDING. THANK YOU. SO YOU'LL SEE A, A LOT OF YOUR 2 0 5. UM, A BIG CHUNK OF IT IS FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED FROM YOUR, FROM COG OKAY. AND FROM YOUR PO. SO FOR, FOR, TO, TO HELP US HERE AS WE'RE [01:00:01] TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH OUR GOAL OF GETTING MORE PROJECTS DONE AND GETTING MORE PROJECTS ON THE UTP, UM, I'M GONNA ASK YOU QUESTIONS. IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE REALLY HARD TO ANSWER, BUT WHY DON'T WE HAVE MORE PROJECTS LISTED? I MEAN, WHY DON'T, OUR GOAL HERE IS APPARENTLY IS TO TRY AND GET, GO TO AUSTIN WITH A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THAT SAYS, PUT MORE HIGHWAYS, PUT MORE OF OUR PROJECTS ON THIS LIST. 'CAUSE WE NEED 'EM DONE QUICKER. 'CAUSE WE'RE GROWING REALLY FAST. ALL OF THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME. SO WHY DON'T WE HAVE MORE PROJECTS ON THERE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE UTP IS A YEARLY DOCUMENT. SO IT'S A 10 YEAR ROLLING DOCUMENT. UHHUH . SO RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT, WE'LL SAY THREE, BUT YOU'VE GOT FIVE SECTIONS OF ROADWAY ON IT. TXDOT IS NOW IN THE PREPARATION FOR THE 2026 UTP. SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY WORK WITH YOU, THE OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THEIR REGION, COG TEXAS TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, AND THEY IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL PROJECTS IN THEIR 2026 UTP. SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS GET THE PROJECTS IN YOUR REGION READY. RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE SOME READY, YOU'VE GOT STATE HIGHWAY 2 76, YOU'VE GOT, UM, STATE HI OR UH, FM 5 52. YOU'VE GOT QUITE A FEW PROJECTS THAT ARE READY. WHEN YOU LOOK ON YOUR CONSORTIUM REPORT, THEY'VE GOT A READY TO LET DATE IN 2026. THAT WOULD BE CANDIDATES FOR YOUR 2026 UTP. OKAY? YOU GET, YOU'RE GETTING EXACTLY TO WHAT MY NEXT QUESTION WAS. OKAY? SO WE'VE GOT THREE REALLY FIVE, BUT THREE ROADS ON IT NOW. MM-HMM . WE WANNA GET MORE. YES. AND WE'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF THE CITIES AT WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE. WE WANNA WORK WITH THEM TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE. SO IN YOUR OPINION, AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE AT ON THIS ROAD PROJECTS, WHICH ONES ARE MOST, ARE FURTHEST ALONG DOWN THE PATH THAT WOULD BE MOST LIKELY CANDIDATES TO GO ON UTP. SO WE CAN TRY AND MAKE OUR DECISIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE REALITY OF WHERE WE'RE AT. UM, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I, I THINK THAT JOHN TALKED ABOUT, UM, IN YOUR CONSORTIUM MEETING THAT WE HAD. OKAY. I WASN'T THERE. SO YOU REPEAT IT FOR ME. OKAY. 2 7 2 76 IS ONE THAT IS, IS READY THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH COG TDOT, UM, THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION TO GET ON THE UTP AND GET FUNDED. UHHUH , UH, THE SECTION THAT, THAT'S THE 2 76 THAT'S DESCRIBED HERE IN THE CONSORTIUM REPORT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. OH, I LOVE IT. IT'S PRECINCT THREE. LET ME GRAB MINE. LET ME GRAB MINE. LET'S MAKE THAT A HIGH PRIORITY. . YEAH, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO, I MEAN, I, I LIKE, I APPRECIATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, AND I WANNA MAKE THIS AS PRODUCTIVE AS POSSIBLE. AND Y'ALL, I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE OVER THIS DISCUSSION, SO INTERRUPT THAT. WILL, THIS IS A WORKSHOP AGAIN. ROLLING TUMBLING. THIS, THIS IS WHERE WE LEARN THINGS. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO HAVE DISCUSSION. I'M BIG ON EDUCATION AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A LIST. 'CAUSE LIKE IF THE, THE LEAST LIKELY IS BEN PAYNE ROAD, WHICH I GUESS ISN'T EVEN A STATE ROAD, RIGHT? UM, IT'S NOT A STATE ROAD, BUT WHEN WE WROTE THE CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY HORNE, WE WROTE IT TO BE DESIGNED WHERE FEDERAL FUNDS COULD BE UTILIZED ONCE THE ENGINEERING IS COMPLETE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COG HAS IS THEY HAVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF FUNDING THAT INCLUDES FEDERAL FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED ON LOCAL ROADS AS LONG AS THE ROADS WERE DEVELOPED TO FEDERAL RULES AND REGULATIONS. OKAY. AND I, THAT, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. OKAY. BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET DOWN A RABBIT TRAIL OF BEN PAPER. AND, AND WE CAN, I WAS JUST USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE. WE, WE CAN RABBIT TRAIL IT. BUT AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS WOULD NOT BE ONE THAT I WOULD PRESENT RIGHT NOW TO ANYONE FOR FUNDING, BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE FAR ENOUGH ALONG IN THE ENGINEERING OFFICE. BINGO. THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I'M GOING. WHAT I DON'T WANNA DO IS WHEN WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE TALKING, WE HEARD, UH, UH, AN IMPASSION PLEA TO DO BEN PAYNE ROAD. BUT IF, I DON'T WANNA SUGGEST THAT, IF IT'S, WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE. THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT FROM YOU. I WOULD, I WOULD YOU, I'VE SAID, WHICH ARE THE ONES MOST READY TO JUMP TO THE UTP AND STEP UP THEIR PRIORITY. AND SO FAR YOU'VE SAID 2 76, UM, 2 76. 5 52, 5 52. THE 5 48 FROM WINDMILL FARMS UP TO 2 0 5. OKAY. SO THE ONES [01:05:01] THAT YOU HAVE GOT READY TO LET DATES ON THAT ARE IN THE 2000, UH, 26 2027 TIMEFRAME ARE THE ONES WHERE WE HAVE GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT PSE. WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT OF WAY PURCHASED. THE UTILITIES ARE BEING MOVED. UM, SO THEY WILL BE READY TO GO, UM, WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME. SO THOSE 3, 2 76, 5 52, AND 5 48 FROM WINDMILL FARMS TO 2 0 5 ARE THE ONES THAT YOU THINK ARE THE MOST READY TO TAKE THAT NEXT STEP ONTO THE UTP, WHICH MEANS WE CAN ACTUALLY START DOING THINGS AND SPEND THE MONEY. YES. YES. OKAY. NOW I WILL GO BACK TO YOUR IMPASSIONED PLEA FOR, FOR BEN PAYNE ROAD. YES. AND I, I, IT'S NOT MY IMPASSION I KNOW, BUT IT WAS MADE BY YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE IMPASSION THE PASSION. RIGHT. UM, THOSE PROJECTS ARE ONES BEN PAYNE ROAD, HORIZON ROAD, UM, FM 5 49 FROM SEVEN 40 TO STATE HIGHWAY 2 0 5. UH, LET'S SEE. THAT'S ALL FIVE 50. WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE CONTRACT ON. OKAY. THOSE THREE WERE ONES THAT WE WENT OUT DURING OUR LAST REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. WE GOT PROPOSALS, THE COUNTY AND T DOT SELECTED CONSULTANT FIRMS FOR US TO NEGOTIATE WITH. AND WE'RE IN PROCESS OF NEGOTIATION OR HAVE CONTRACTS WITH THOSE CONSULTING FIRMS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO START THE ENGINEERING AND GET THE BALL ROLLING ON THOSE. SO WITH THOSE, WE NEED TO ASK THAT WE ISSUE SOME BOND FUNDS SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND FINALIZE THE CONTRACTS AND GET STARTED ON THE ENGINEERING. OKAY. AND BUT IF BEN PAYNE ROAD, THAT WOULDN'T REALLY GO ON THE UTP, WOULD IT? OR WOULD IT? IT WOULDN'T IT, BUT YOU STILL NEED BOND FUNDS TO START THE ENGINEERING, RIGHT? NO, BUT IF WE HAD THE BOND FUNDS, WOULD E BECAUSE IT'S A NOT A STATE HIGHWAY, WOULD IT STILL GO ON THE UTP? NO, SIR. IT'S NOT. SO BEN PAYNE, WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA ASK THAT. GO ON THE BEN ON THE UTP. NO, NO, NO. HOW ABOUT HORIZON ROAD? THAT'S ALSO NOT A STATE HIGHWAY. NO, NO. SO THOSE WOULDN'T GO ON THE UT P THOSE THAT, THOSE THAT I MENTIONED ARE PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MENTIONED THAT WE NEED TO GET STARTED ON THE ENGINEERING, WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR ASKING FOR THEM TO GO ON THE UTP OR ASKING FOR FUNDING ON THEM. WELL, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WOULDN'T GO ON THE UTP ANYWAY. TWO OF THEM WOULDN'T, BUT YEAH. SO WE NEED TO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER AND WE NEED TO GET GOING ON THE ENGINEERING PROBABLY BECAUSE THE CITIES NEED IT. BUT THESE WOULDN'T BE THINGS ARE, IF OUR GOAL HERE IS TO COME UP WITH A UTP LIST, THOSE TWO AREN'T ON IT. CORRECT. OKAY. SORRY, Y'ALL ALL, ALL, ALL GOOD STUFF. ALL GOOD STUFF. SO, UH, I HAVE, THERE'S, I HAVE A QUESTION. GO AHEAD. SORRY. OKAY. UM, ON ONE OF THE, I GUESS IT WAS OUR SECOND COURT, UM, THAT WOULD BE COMMISSIONER M**K, UH, JUDGE NEW AND MYSELF, UM, WE HAD, UH, $11.3 MILLION REMAINING IN THE 2008 ROAD BOND. OKAY. AND ON JANUARY 23RD, WE VOTED, UM, FOR THE ENGINEERING ON, ON 5 49, THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF ROCKWALL FOR $2 MILLION DOING 1141, WHICH WAS POOLED, UM, HORIZON ROAD FM FIVE 50, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE PROJECTS. AND THEN A SAFETY IMPROVEMENT 35, FM 35, WHICH THE STATE HAS NOW TAKEN UNDER, AND THEN 1.7 MILLION TO BEN PAYNE. SO WE HAD $11.3 MILLION ON JANUARY 23RD TO DISTRIBUTE THE MONEY INTO THESE PROJECTS. YOU STATED EARLIER THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MON THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT 1.7 MILLION TO PAY, TO PAY FOR THE DESIGN. DO YOU, DO YOU DO, DOES ITS KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO, DID, DID WE SPEND THAT MONEY ON, ON ANOTHER PROJECT? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH YOUR AUDITOR AND WITH CHRISTINA THAT DOES OUR BOND TRACKING. OKAY. UM, THIS WAS JUST WHAT I'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO DO WITH THE CONTRACTS OF . NO, NO, THAT, THAT, THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. WHICH, WHICH IS THE TRUTH. THAT IS WHAT YOU'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO DO. SO, UM, ON FM 1141, WE HAD $2 MILLION RELEASE OUT OF THAT. AND THEN ON FM 35, WE HAD $1.2 MILLION RELEASE. OUT OF THAT, WE'VE SPENT $2 MILLION, UM, ON MS. MAY DRIVE, JUST SO YOU, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, AND THEN 2 MILLION SHOULD BE, SO WE RELEASED 5.2 MILLION AND WE SPENT ABOUT 2 MILLION OF IT. SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME MONEY. UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD ON THIS, BECAUSE EVERYONE'S FIGHTING EVERYBODY. AND, [01:10:01] AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO HARD TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THE HOPE IS HAVING A VERY OPEN AND HONEST CONVERSATION WOULD START REALIZING THAT WE'RE NOT ALL ENEMIES AND THAT WE'RE NOT ALL FIGHTING EACH OTHER, BUT WE HAVE MONEY THAT'S NOT BEING RELEASED BECAUSE THEY WANT TRIP 21 MONEY TO BE RELEASED AND TRIP 21 MONEY TO BE RELEASED WOULD ENABLE US TO FINISH DESIGNING AND BUILDING THE OUTER LOOP, WHICH IS FINE. IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA END UP DOING. BUT THIS IS ALL ABOUT STRONG ARMING BOND MONEY, SAYING THAT WE, WE CAN'T SIGN THE KIMLEY HORN. WE COULD PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. WE, WE'VE ALREADY ISOLATED MONEY FOR IT. AND NOW SOMEHOW WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAD THE MONEY IN JANUARY, UH, ON JANUARY 23RD, 2024. COMMISSIONER, LET ME, UH, AND, AND THANK YOU. LET ME, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GONNA DO, UH, THIS WEEK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID ASSIGNMENTS AND I, I AM THE BOND CONTACT. UH, I, AND I FEEL YOUR FRUSTRATION AS WELL. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE? IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU ASK. UH, AND IS IT FUNDED? DEPENDS ON THE DAY. SO MY, MY GOAL, AND I'M GONNA GET WITH OUR AUDITOR, AND I'M GONNA COME UP WITH A LIST OF THE MONEY. WE HAVE, THE MONEY THAT IS ALLOCATED, THE MONEY THAT'S UNALLOCATED. AND I WILL GET IT TO EACH COMMISSIONER. 'CAUSE UH, UH, PRIOR TO THIS, YOU NEVER GOT THAT INFORMATION THAT, THAT WAS, UH, KIND OF, UH, KEPT OUTTA SIGHT. AND, AND THAT WAY WE'RE, WE'RE JUST MOVING AND, AND WE GOT THIS MONEY. WELL, THE STATE DID THIS ROAD, NOW WE GET A MILLION DOLLARS BACK. AND WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT GO? SO I'M, I'M GONNA COME UP WITH A LIST AND I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE IT JUST AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE. HERE'S THE MONEY WE HAVE. HERE'S WHAT'S ENCUMBERED, HERE'S WHAT'S UNENCUMBERED, AND, AND, AND THEN GET IT TO EACH OF YOU SO WE CAN HAVE A HONEST CONVERSATION OF HOW WE WANT TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS. THANK YOU. AND, AND LET ME CLARIFY TOO, THIS WAS NOT JUST AN INSTRUCTION TO ME THAT THIS IS THE STATE THAT WE'RE IN. I'VE GOT AN EMAIL FROM LISA, CONSTANT WILEY, THAT SAYS, WE ARE RUNNING OUTTA MONEY AND HAD A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO FUND. YEAH. AND I WAS COPIED ON THAT EMAIL. SO, NO, I I'M, I, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR IF I FELT LIKE WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND THAT WE HAD THE, THE LINE ITEMS, AND IF YOU TELL ME MY PRIORITY IS THIS ONE AND WE'VE GOT THE LINE ITEM TO MOVE IT OUT, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BRING IT TO THE COURT TO DO. BUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO HER ABOUT THE, THE PROJECTS THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD THAT WERE ON YOUR PRIORITY LIST, SHE CAME UP AND SAID, WE ARE VERY QUICKLY RUNNING OUT OF MONEY. SO MM-HMM . AND WE, AND WE ARE, BECAUSE WE ALLOCATED THE 11.3, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MONEY OTHER THAN THAT 11.3, IF WE'RE GONNA DO ANY MORE ROAD PROJECTS, WE HAVE TO RELEASE MORE BOND MONEY AND THAT, AND THAT'S JUST, UH, THAT'S JUST A FACT. UM, SO WE HEARD FROM EVERY CITY EXCEPT FOR HEATH, BUT THE MAYOR OF HEATH IS HERE. UM, 2 76 WAS MENTIONED BY NOBODY, BUT IT'S ALMOST READY TO GO. UM, SO DO WE ADVOCATE TO GET 2 76 BECAUSE IT'S READY TO GO? UM, BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY, THAT WAS REALLY THE POINT, IS WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WE HAVE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE SHOULD BE ADVOCATING FOR TO GET FUNDED IN THE UTP. TELL ME THE THIRD 2 76, 5 48, AND NO, NO, NO, NO. HOLD ON. TWO SE YES. 5 48 WINDMILL FARMS TO 2 0 5 AND THEN 5 52. 5 52. YEP. AND THEY'RE READY TO GO. AND, AND, AND AT THE VERY MINIMUM, THIS COURT SHOULD BE ABLE TO PASS A RESOLUTION AND TAKE IT DOWN TO OUR STATE LEGISLATURE TO SAY, PLEASE SUPPORT EVERY EFFORT TO FUND THESE THREE PROJECTS. AND, AND, AND I THINK IF WE THINK ABOUT IT, IF WE, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE READY TO FUND, IT'S ONLY GOING TO COST MORE MONEY IF WE, IF WE HOLD AND WE HOLD ANY OF THESE OFF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF I LOOK AT, IF I LOOK AT THE ONE YOU JUST 5 52 OR, OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN ANY OF THEM THAT SHE JUST MENTIONED, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS 5 52 HAS GOT CAT SEVEN ON IT FOR HALF A MILLION, 500,000. WELL, IF WE WAIT THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, IT COULD BE A MILLION OR MORE, YOU KNOW, 100% AGREED. SO I MEAN, THAT'S, I MEAN, WE'VE GOTTA BE PRUDENT WITH, WITH THESE KIND OF DECISIONS THAT WERE PUT INTO PLACE SEVERAL YEARS AGO TOO. MM-HMM . 100%. AND, AND TO JUST REALLY TALK ABOUT THE MONEY. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO IS ALLOCATE THE COUNTY'S RESOURCES TO BUILD ROADS. AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY HELPS. IF WE HAD A LIST, AND I THINK THOSE THREE WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE FOR US TO HAVE A RESOLUTION ON OUR NEXT COURT THAT WE TAKE DOWN TO REPRESENTATIVE PEARSON AND STATE SENATOR HALL AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECT YOU TO HELP US. AND JOHN, I, I LIKE, I I LIKE THIS IDEA A LOT. IT'S WHAT GO OPEN GOVERNMENT AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. SO I I I, I APPLAUD YOU GUYS FOR THINKING OF US DOING THIS, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, [01:15:01] AND I THINK, I THINK THE JUDGE HAS MENTIONED IT, AND I, I, I'M GOING, YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE JEOPARDIZING ANY FUTURE FUNDING BECAUSE OF ANY TYPES OF COMMUNICATIONS WE ARE HAVING WITH OUR, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE, AND WE, AND, AND COMMISSIONER TI HAS TALKED ABOUT IT, OF THE LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. I THINK THAT IS A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY BIG, BIG EMAIL WE RECEIVED THAT COULD HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT ON THE CITIZENS OF ROCKWALL COUNTY. NO, I, I COMPLETELY AGREE. AND THE MAYORS THAT HAVE COME AND TALKED AND THE, AND THE OTHERS WHO'VE SPOKEN UP TODAY, AND, AND, AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, UM, MY GOAL WAS TO SEND JOHN POLLSTER AN EMAIL WITH THESE THREE ROADS AND ASK ITS TO WRITE THE RESOLUTION SO THAT IT WOULD BE WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT WOULD CONFORM TO, WE, WE WOULDN'T MAKE A, AN IGNORANT MISSTEP IN WRITING A RESOLUTION. JUST, I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR. THAT WAS MY GOAL, IS TO SAY, THESE ARE THE THREE ROADS. CAN YOU HELP ME WRITE A RESOLUTION PERFECT FOR COURT ON THE, FOR ON THE 28TH? I GUESS. I'M SORRY, I, I THINK SOMETHING WE KIND OF GLOSSED OVER JUST BRIEFLY, AND, AND YOU MENTIONED IT, COMMISSIONER STACY, IS THAT ROADS ARE POLITICAL. AND I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S JUST THE FACT IT SHOULDN'T BE. BUT ROADS ARE POLITICAL. THERE'S LIMITED FUNDS AND DIFFERENT ENTITIES CHASING THOSE LIMITED FUNDS. SO, UH, US NOT ENGAGING IN THE POLITICAL NATURE OF ROADS PUTS US AT A DISADVANTAGE. UH, SO I, I THINK US ENGAGING, I, I DON'T SEE THE DOWNSIDE. YOU NO, I DON'T, I DON'T EITHER. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT BREAKING ANY PART OF THE WHEEL THAT EXISTS NOW AND, AND STILL KEEPING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS INTACT WHILE PUSHING FOR WHAT WE NEED. AND, AND, AND, AND, AND I AGREE. AND WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT, WHICH IS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE SETTING UP THE MEETING WITH MICHAEL MORRIS AND THE RTC TO, TO DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BROKEN ANY RELATIONSHIPS. WE'RE JUST PLAYING THE GAME THEY'RE PLAYING TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE THE BEST OUTCOME WE CAN FOR THE COUNTY. OKAY. SO, UM, WE'VE GOT FIVE PROJECTS, THREE ROADS ON THE UTP. UM, WE'VE GOT THREE THAT OUR CONSULTANT TELLS US WE'RE READY TO MOVE UP TO THE UTP. AND IF I READ THIS LITTLE REPORT, RIGHT, THE 2 76 IS ESTIMATED AT 77 MILLION. 5 52 IS ESTIMATED 110,000,005 48 IS ESTIMATED AT 63 MILLION. UH, AND CHANGE, OBVIOUSLY. UM, SO ARE WE, THEN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS ASKING OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO GET THESE MOVED UP THE LIST AND GET FUNDING FOR THOSE THREE PROJECTS BECAUSE PUTTING 'EM ON THE LIST HAS TO GO WITH FUNDING FOR IT, RIGHT? CORRECT. YES. SO WE'RE SAYING, HEY Y'ALL, LET'S DO A HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN, TWO FORTY SEVEN, ABOUT $250 MILLION WORTH OF FUNDING. MOVE IT ON. WE NEED MORE FUNDING FOR HIGHWAYS. EVERYBODY ON THIS COURT WOULD VOTE FOR THAT. AND IF WE'VE GOT THREE PROJECTS THAT ARE CLOSE TO BEING READY TO GO, I CERTAINLY DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH TELLING OUR LEGISLATORS. AND I APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH OUR CONSULTANT TO PREPARE THE RESOLUTION, UM, TELLING OUR LEGISLATORS, HEY, THESE, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE MONEY YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN US, AND WE THANK YOU, UH, GIVE US 250 MILLION MORE AND WE'D LIKE THESE THREE PROJECTS TO BE MOVED OUT. IT, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET ACCOMPLISHED. PRETTY SIMPLE. YES. OKAY. AND, AND ARE THERE ANY, I'D ASK, UH, BRENDA, I'D ALSO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS IF YOU GUYS ARE, AND THE JUDGE, IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THINGS I'M NOT OR THAT WEREN'T MENTIONED, ARE THERE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD SAY ARE READY? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE ANSWER IS NO, BUT I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT. UM, NO, YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL THAT HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL AND SOMATIC, UM, MIC PLEASE. YES. SORRY. THANK YOU, CANDACE. I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. I WAS PLANNING TO REPEAT EVERY WORD SHE SAID FOR THE RECORD. I'M GLAD I DON'T HAVE TO, YOU HAVE SEVERAL THAT HAVE GOT SCHEMATIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVAL. UM, SO IT'S READY TO MOVE INTO THE PSE STAGE. THAT'S 30 97 IS ONE OF THOSE, UH, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE? 5 51 IS VERY CLOSE. UH, FM 5 48 FROM 66 TO SOUTH OF CRENSHAW IS VERY CLOSE. [01:20:01] OKAY. NO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FINE. ONE AND 5 48 NORTH. OKAY. YES. SO THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO GETTING SCHEMATIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVAL. SO WE'LL NEED TO MOVE INTO THE PSNE RIGHT AWAY UTILITY STAGES FOR THOSE BEFORE THEY'RE READY FOR THE UTP. SO YOU'RE SEVERAL YEARS OUT. SO IF WE ASK FOR THOSE TO GO ON THE UTP, THEY LOOK AT US CROSSEY AND SAY, WHY? GET YOUR PROJECTS READY. YEAH. PROGRESS YOUR PROJECTS AND THEN COME BACK. ALRIGHT, COME BACK TO US. AND THEN, THEN I WOULD SAY AS WELL, SINCE, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE UTP, YOU'VE GOT THREE SEPARATE CATEGORIES OF WORK SELECTED BY THREE DIFFERENT ENTITIES. THEN I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET WITH JOHN AND SHARE YOUR RESOLUTION WITH TEXDOT AND WITH COG AS WELL. AND THAT WAY THAT THEY WILL KNOW AND REALIZE THAT, THAT YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF THOSE PROJECTS AND THOSE PROJECTS ARE READY FOR FUNDING. OKAY. SO YOU KIND OF HAVE TO HAVE A THREE-PRONG APPROACH WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UTP. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND NOT TO COMPLICATE THINGS MORE, BUT I, I KNOW WE PAY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL, WE PAY FOR ENGINEERING WHEN TDOT OR COG PICKS IT UP AND ACTUALLY LETS THE CONTRACT, WE GET OUR MONEY BACK, WHICH THEN WOULD ALLOW US TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OFF. NO, WE DON'T ALWAYS GET OUR MONEY BACK. NO, NO, NO. WELL, NOT, NOT ALWAYS, BUT, BUT ON MANY OCCASIONS WE DO GET, UM, THERE'S ONE PROJECT THAT YOU'VE GOT A PASS THROUGH FUNDING AGREEMENT ON, AND THAT'S 30 AND FM 35 49, THE INTERCHANGE THAT WAS DONE WITH A PASS THROUGH FUNDING AGREEMENT. AND YOU DO GET MONEY BACK YEARLY ON THAT AGREEMENT FROM TDOT. AND IT'S BASED ON YOUR TRAFFIC THAT'S ON THAT INTERCHANGE. BUT THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU PROGRESS THROUGH, THE WAY THAT YOU GET, UM, MONEY BACK ON THEM IS THAT COG HAS MADE A COMMITMENT. IF YOU HELP US WITH OUR REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS LIKE 2 0 5 IN THE OUTER LOOP, THEN WE WILL COME BACK AND HELP YOU FIND YOUR LOCALLY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS LIKE 5 48, 5 49 30 97. SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW YOU GET YOUR, YOU, YOU SPOKE THAT IT WAS POLITICAL, IT'S IT'S POLITICAL IN THAT ASPECT AS WELL. UM, COG WORKS WITH YOU AS A PARTNER AND SAYS, IF YOU SPEND $10 MILLION ON PROGRESSING 2 0 5 IN THE OUTER LOOP, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AND HELP YOU WITH CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS ON YOUR LOCALLY PREFERRED PROJECTS. YOU GOT IT? OKAY. I KNOW. IT'S LIKE DRINKING OUT OF A FIRE HOSE. BELIEVE ME, I'VE, I'VE DONE THIS FOR 34 YEARS AND THEY STILL BRING NEW THINGS UP, SO, WELL, THANK YOU. MM-HMM . UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY, ANYTHING? DO WE WANT TO REQUIRE THE MAYOR OF HEATH COME UP HERE? MAYOR MCCLURE, PLEASE. UH, YEAH, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS . ALRIGHT. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. JEREMIAH MCCLURE, MAYOR OF HEATH. UH, AS FAR AS, UH, UH, SPEAKING TO OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, COMMISSIONER STACY, THE REASON I DIDN'T ORIGINALLY WANT TO JUMP UP HERE AND SPEAK TO IT IS, IS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING, UH, WITH A COLLABORATIVE GROUP WITH OUR COUNCIL TO, TO REVIEW, UH, OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN. SO OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN HAS NEEDED A REVIEW SINCE ABOUT 2018. AND SO TO GET UP HERE TONIGHT OR THIS MORNING AND TALK ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO A UTP, I WANT TO BE VERY THOROUGH ON WHAT THAT PROCESS NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE VOICE OF THE CITIZENS AS WELL AS THE VOICE OF THE BODY, UH, OF THE COUNCIL. SO, UH, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ON RABBIT RIDGE, UH, TO, UH, TO THE MAYOR OF MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM. THE, THE QUESTION IS THAT ROAD IS SPLIT, UH, BETWEEN THE CITY OF HEATH AND MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM. UH, IT'S NOT, UH, TDOT ROAD. THERE WILL BE, UH, CURB AND GUTTER CHANGES, UH, AND UPGRADES TO THAT, UH, AS THEY'LL BE, UH, WORKING WITH MUD 10, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE MAKING SOME UPGRADES TO THAT ROADWAY FROM DENNIS BAILEY, UH, OVER TO HORIZON, ESSENTIALLY. SO, UH, BUT AS FAR AS OUR PRIORITY, I THINK THAT, UH, WE NEED TO GET WITH THE BODY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A, A STRONG THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT MATCHES THE CURRENT NEEDS BECAUSE OUR CURRENT NEEDS TODAY VERSUS WHAT OUR NEEDS WERE IN 2018 ARE MUCH DIFFERENT. THANKS. I, AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH, UH, SCOTT DODSON, ONE OF YOUR COUNCILMEN [01:25:01] ABOUT THIS. AND, UM, WOULD, I'M VERY EXCITED THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE, UM, THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE DOWN THERE. NOT TELLING YOU HOW TO RUN YOUR BUSINESS, BUT WOULD LIKE TO GET 'EM ON THE, UH, CONSORTIUM LIST. VERY MUCH SO. BUT NEED, NEED A CONFIRMATION FROM THE CITY OF HEATH THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL WANT. CORRECT. AND I'VE BEEN ATTENDING THE ROAD CONSORTIUM MEETINGS, SO I AM FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S ON THE LIST. UH, I AM IN FAVOR OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT IT TAKES TO REALLY VET ALL OF WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN FRONT OF YOU. UH, I RECOGNIZE THAT IT, TO, TO, UH, COMMISSIONER STACY'S POINT, IT'S A SMALL LIST AND WE GOTTA CONTINUE TO PROGRESS IT, UH, TO, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, ALANA, I AGREE WITH YOU AS WELL. UH, WE, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL IN THE WAY THAT WE APPROACH, UH, THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE'VE GOT IN PLACE. UH, BUT I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING WHAT'S RIGHT AND, AND GONNA GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. AND TO YOUR POINT, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER LICHTY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS VERY AGGRESSIVELY, UH, IN THE COMING MONTHS, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, IN THE FIRST, UH, SIX MONTHS, WE'VE HAD SOME CASUAL CONVERSATIONS AND, AND STARTED KIND OF DIALING IT DOWN TO, UH, TO A COMMITTEE THAT'S GONNA BE WORKING ON THIS GREAT. 'CAUSE WE'RE ALL HERE READY TO WORK WITH YOU. PERFECT. AND LOOK FORWARD TO IT. GREAT. ANY HARD QUESTIONS? ANY EASY QUESTIONS? ? I LIKE THE HARD QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. NOPE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, IT IS IMPORTANT. HEATH IS, UH, IS VERY, VERY MUCH ON OPEN SPACE, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ROADWAYS. WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, MIGRATION AND, AND, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE WE ARE, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF, UH, A LOT OF MOVEMENT FROM THE SOUTHERN CORRIDOR, FROM, UH, THE CITY OF FORNEY, THE CITY OF MACLENNAN, CHISHOLM, BUT ALSO THE CITY OF TARRELL. UH, AND SO WE DO HAVE COMPRESSION. WE DO HAVE SOME POINTS OF CONCERN. UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF, UH, TO, I DO AGREE WITH, UH, WITH THE MAYOR OF ROCKWALL, BUT WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED WITH, HEY, THEY'RE GONNA STILL BUILD, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE VERY MINDFUL IN OUR PLANNING, UH, BECAUSE YOU BUILD IT BIG ENOUGH AND FAST ENOUGH, AND BY GOLLY, YOU CAN GET A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN WHAT YOU PLAN FOR. SO IT'S A BIG BALANCING ACT THAT ALL OF US, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. SO THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUDGE, I DON'T WANNA SQUELCH CONVERSATION, BUT FROM MY ANALYSIS, WE'RE KIND OF READY FOR A MOTION. YEP. SO, UM, I'M, I'M, IT'S DISCUSSION ONLY, DISCUSSION ONLY. SO WE'RE NOT READY FOR A MOTION. WE, WE WON'T BE MAKING A MOTION, BUT I THINK WHERE YOU WERE GONNA GO IS WE HAVE THREE PROJECTS WE CAN AGREE ON TO GET A RESOLUTION TOGETHER, THOSE BEING FM 2 76, FM FIVE FORTY EIGHT SOUTH, AS I CALL IT, AND FM FIVE FIFTY TWO. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. UM, WHO, WHO, WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, GET WITH ITS TO GET THE RESOLUTION? THE, THE LAST WORKSHOP THAT WAS PUT ON ME, AND I'LL GET THAT DONE TODAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I THINK IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLY PRODUCTIVE WORKSHOP. I AGREE. THANK YOU FOR CALLING IT. I AGREE. I AGREE. SO WE'RE GONNA CALL 10 27. WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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