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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.I'M GONNA CALL THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER.
[A) INVOCATION]
WHEN ASK COMMISSIONER STACEY TO LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION, AND THEN COMMISSIONER GOANA TO LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGES.ALL RIGHT, WILL YOU PLEASE, PLEASE STAND AND BOW YOUR HEADS.
DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE PRAY THAT YOU GO BEFORE OUR THOUGHTS AND MAKE OUR WORDS, YOUR WORDS, AND OUR PLANS, YOUR PLANS.
LORD, I PRAY THIS ELECTED BODY SUBMIT TO YOUR WILL AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT BY YOU, AND THAT YOU GRANT US THE WISDOM TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THIS GREAT COUNTY.
AS ALWAYS, LORD, WE PRAY FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT PUT THEMSELVES ON THE FRONT LINE OF OUR LIBERTY AND OUR FREEDOM.
I PRAY ALL THIS IN YOUR SON'S NAME, JESUS CHRIST, AMEN.
FLAG JESUS TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, ALL HONOR.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE AT TEXAS, SAY, UNDER GOD AMONG AND INDIVISIBLE.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.
[RECOGNITION/PRESENTATION]
US TO RECOGNITION AND PRESENTATIONS.MR. TODD WILLIAMS WITH OUR AG AGRILIFE CENTER, UH, HAS A PRESENTATION TO GO OVER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THE HOURS THAT THE MASTER GARDENERS HAVE SPENT, AND IT IS QUITE IMPRESSIVE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, UH, COURT.
UH, SO TODAY HERE, WHAT I HAVE HERE WITH ME, I HAVE, UH, SOME OF 'EM MA, MY MASTER GARDENERS, IF YOU GUYS WILL GO AHEAD AND STAND FOR US.
MY, UH, PART OF THE GROUP THAT'S HERE AND THEN JOINING, UH, ME, UH, HERE IS MICHELLE CAMPBELL, WHO IS OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT, AND THEN OUR, OUR INTERN COORDINATOR, YOU'RE STACY WATT, WHICH, UH, WE'LL GET TO IN JUST A MOMENT.
UH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT, UH, WE ARE PRESENTING YOU AS SYMBOLIC CHECK THIS MORNING FOR MORE THAN, UH, 5,826 HOURS OF SERVICE DURING 2024.
UH, AND IT'S VALUED AT 195,000 $112 AND 74 CENTS.
AND SO YOU KIND OF GO, WELL, HOW DO YOU COME ABOUT THAT? UH, WELL, AS THE INDEPENDENT SECTOR SAYS THAT RIGHT NOW, OUR VOLUNTEER HOURS ARE VALUED AT, UH, $33 AND 49 CENTS AN HOUR.
AND SO JUST THIS, UH, EARLIER THIS JANUARY, WE RECOGNIZED 58 MASTER GARDENERS, UH, FOR THEIR HOURS OF SERVICE.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A HIGHLIGHT, 14 OF THOSE HAD MORE THAN 101 HOURS OF SERVICE DURING THE YEAR OF 2024.
SIX HAD MORE THAN 251 HOURS, AND THEN ONE STACEY WHITE, STACEY WHITE, SITTING HERE BESIDE US, US, UH, HAD MORE THAN 500 HOURS OF SERVICE DURING 2024.
SO ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE 14 INTERNS WORKING ON THEIR INITIAL HOURS TO BECOME CERTIFIED MASTER GARDENERS TOTALLING 72 IN OUR PROGRAM.
AND SO THIS YEAR WE SAW INCREASED EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC COLLABORATING WITH, UH, THE COUNTY LIBRARY ASSISTED LIVING, UH, COMMUNITIES, PRESENCE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, AS WELL AS A LOT OF OTHER PUBLIC, UH, RELATIONS GOING ON.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SUPPORTING THE EXTENSION PROGRAM FOR SOME MORE, UH, SUPPORTING THE MASTER GARDENERS AS PART OF THAT PROGRAM AND FOR BEING A PART OF THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR COUNTY.
UH, NOW MS. CAMMY WEBB, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR EMPLOYEES OF THE QUARTER PRESENTATIONS.
I'M GONNA TOSS IT TO CHIEF MCKNIGHT.
CHIEF MCKNIGHT, CHIEF DEPUTY MCKNIGHT, DO YOU NEED A COPY? I DON'T NEED IT.
UH, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS SELECTED, UH, DAVID JONES, DEPUTY JONES AS OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER.
DAVID'S BEEN WITH US SINCE 1998, SO WHAT IS THAT? 26 YEARS? ABOUT 26 YEARS.
A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN AT THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY.
HE WAS NOMINATED FOR HIS ROLE AT THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY FOR US.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A SERGEANT THAT RETIRED AND WE HAD TO SELECT SOMEONE TO FILL THAT ROLE, AND DAVID STEPPED IN UNTIL WE COULD ACTUALLY SELECT A FORMAL SERGEANT FOR US.
AND HE FILLED THAT ROLE FOR PROBABLY CLOSE TO A YEAR.
I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WAS A LONG TIME.
HE WAS ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR SCHEDULING AND FOR COORDINATING, UH, TRIALS, SOME OF THE HIGH PROFILE TRIALS THAT WE HAD, AND
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THE, UH, OPENING AND CLOSING OF THE COURTHOUSE.HE ALSO DID A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING THE ADMINISTRATION INFORMED OF ALL THE GOINGS ON AT THE COURTHOUSE.
SO FOR THAT, WE APPRECIATE, UH, DAVID'S WILLINGNESS TO STEP UP, TAKE ON THE ADDED RESPONSIBILITIES FOR NO EXTRA COMPENSATION.
HE DID A GREAT JOB FOR US, AND CURRENTLY HE'S SERVING AS IN THE ROLE OF A CIVIL DEPUTY.
YEAH, IF WE GOT FAMILY, GET 'EM IN HERE.
THIS, THIS IS A BIG, THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
ALL RIGHT, MR. DAVID PEAK, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP WITH, WITH YOUR GROUP, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING.
UH, I WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED ERICA PREVIOUSLY FOR THIS AWARD, HOWEVER, I WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL ENOUGH TIME HAD HIT.
SO WE HIT THE YEAR 2025, BECAUSE SHE'S GONNA HIT HER 15 YEAR ANNIVERSARY LATER THIS YEAR AS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.
ERICA STARTED IN THE TAX OFFICE IN 2010.
SHE WAS HIRED BY OUR FORMER TAX ASSESSOR, BARBARA BARBER, AND LATER WORKED FOR MANY YEARS FOR KIM SWEET, WHO DESCRIBED ERICA AS ONE OF HER SUCCESS STORIES WHEN THE TREASURER'S DEPARTMENT HAD AN OPENING FOR PAYROLL COORDINATOR.
ONE OF THE THINGS I TOLD ERICA IN HER FIRST INTERVIEW, AND THAT WE STILL JOKE ABOUT TODAY, IS I TOLD HER THE PAYROLL COORDINATOR POSITION IS A LOT.
I STRESSED HOW MUCH IT WAS, HOW IMPORTANT A ROLE IT WAS.
I WASN'T SURE IF I SCARED HER OFF, BUT SHE DID COME BACK FOR A SECOND INTERVIEW.
AND AT THAT SECOND INTERVIEW, I DID TELL HER THE SAME THING, THAT THIS IS A LOT.
BUT AT THAT TIME, EVEN I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW THE POSITION WOULD GROW.
OVER THE ENSUING EIGHT YEARS, ERICA ACCEPTED THE POSITION AND HAS BEEN A KEY MEMBER OF THE TEAM EVER SINCE.
HERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT THE PAYROLL COORDINATOR JOB ENTAILS.
ESTIMATING PERSONNEL COSTS DURING THE ANNUAL BUDGET PREPARATIONS, REMITTING PREMIUMS FOR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, ANNUAL FORM W2 PREPARATIONS, STATE AND COUNTY ACCRUALS, VARIOUS WORKERS' COMP ESTIMATES AND FILINGS, ANNUAL LONGEVITY PAYMENTS, AND RECENTLY SENATE BILL 2 22 CALCULATIONS, OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS.
AND THAT'S JUST THE EXTRA STUFF SHE DOES BECAUSE HER CORE FUNCTION IS EVERY TWO WEEKS, ERICA TAKES THE LEAD IN PROCESSING PAYROLL FOR OVER 400 COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
AND OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR, THAT RESULTS IN OVER 10,000 DIRECT DEPOSIT PAYMENTS AND HARD COPY PAYCHECKS.
IT'S AMAZING HOW MUCH WORK GOES INTO EVERY SINGLE ONE SIMILAR TO WHEN YOU TURN ON THE FAUCET OR THE LIGHT SWITCH.
TONS OF WORK GOES INTO GETTING US TO THAT POINT, AND AS YOU WILL HEAR LATER IN THE MEETING, WHEN THE COURT APPROVES THE PAYROLL REPORT, OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN GROSS SALARIES ARE PAID OUT TO OUR EMPLOYEES EVERY TWO WEEKS.
ERICA IS PILOTING THAT MILLION DOLLAR PAYROLL PLANE EVERY TWO WEEKS.
SHE HAS CO-PILOTS IN THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AND NAVIGATORS AND AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL AND EXTRA SETS OF EYES IN THE AUDITORS DEPARTMENT TO DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING RIGHT.
HOWEVER, ERICA IS IN THE PILOT SEAT EVERY TWO WEEKS PILOTING THIS PAYROLL PLANE LAST MAY, FOLLOWING STORMS THAT CAUSED MUCH OF THE COURTHOUSE TO BE WITHOUT POWER.
ERICA WAS PROCESSING PAYROLL DOWN AT THE SECURITY DESK RIGHT NEXT TO DAVID JONES BECAUSE WE HAD LOST POWER IN MUCH OF THE BUILDING.
THE SECURITY AREA WAS ON THE BACKUP GENERATOR AS I RECALL.
AND EVEN THERE WAS A BRIEF PERIOD WHERE ERICA SET UP SHOP IN THE COMPUTER SERVER ROOM AT THE COURTHOUSE TO ENSURE OUR PAYROLL WAS PROCESSED, TIMELY AND ACCURATELY.
ERICA WAS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ENSURE THE COUNTY'S EMPLOYEES RECEIVED TIMELY COMPENSATION.
ERICA IS JOINED TODAY BY THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TREASURER'S DEPARTMENT, WHO, LIKE HER, ARE COMMITTED TO EXCELLENCE IN ALL THEY DO.
THE CITIZENS ARE BLESSED TO HAVE SUCH A DEDICATED CREW, AND I'M HONORED TO WORK ALONGSIDE THEM.
ERICA, IT BRINGS ME GREAT JOY TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR THIS WELL-DESERVED AWARD.
YOU HAVE EARNED IT, AND I WOULD ASK EVERYONE HERE TO JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING ERICA KNICKERBOCKER, ROCKWALL COUNTY EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER.
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SO CAN WE GET A PICTURE WITH JIM SINCE HE WASN'T HERE EARLIER? ABSOLUTELY.THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO RUN ON.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONLY TIME SHE'S GONNA GET THIS
THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE PUBLIC FORUM.
THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNTY ABOUT ANY COUNTY MATTERS.
NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP, BUT AS MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE, THAT DOESN'T PREVENT YOU FROM SPEAKING.
UH, IT WOULD ALSO BE A GOOD TIME TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT OUR NEW, UH, AUDIO SYSTEM WILL PICK YOU UP ANYWHERE IN THE COURTROOM.
UH, SO WE HAVE SIGNS POSTED ON THE DOOR, BUT IT, IT WILL, UM, YOU, YOU DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE RECORDED.
UM, SO IF THERE WAS ANYBODY THAT LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, SEE, AND NO ONE WILL MOVE ON TO AGENDA
[2. Discuss/Act on the request from Larry Baty, Cars for Casa, to utilize the parking lot of the main Courthouse, Saturday, May 17, 2025, for set up and Sunday, May 18, 2025, for the car show, 7:00 am-5:00 pm, and all related issues; (Judge New)]
ITEM TWO, DISCUSS AN ACT ON THE REQUEST FROM LARRY BEATY CARS FOR CASA TO UTILIZE THE PARKING LOT OF THE MAIN COURTHOUSE, SATURDAY, MAY 17TH, 2025 FOR SETUP AND SUNDAY MAY 18TH, 2025 FOR THE CAR SHOW.7:00 AM TO 5:00 PM AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.
GENTLEMEN, WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME.
HERE'S SOME BROCHURE THIS MORNING.
I'VE GOT DOUG BOWERMAN, HE'S A CO-CHAIR WITH ME FOR THE, UH, CAR SHOW, EXCUSE ME.
SO LAST YEAR, UM, WITH OUR 19TH YEAR, WHICH MEANS THIS YEAR IS GONNA BE OUR 20TH YEAR.
UH, WE RAISED ABOUT $89,000 LAST YEAR FOR THE CAR SHOW.
IF WE CAN MAKE THAT THIS YEAR, WE'LL BE AT $1 MILLION FOR 20 YEARS.
WE EXPECT THAT MANY IF NOT MORE THIS YEAR.
WE DO HAVE A LITTLE, UH, SMALL ISSUE AT THE COURTHOUSE THIS YEAR.
SOMEBODY BUILT A BUILDING OVER ON THE SIDE AND TOOK UP HALF OF OUR PARKING LOT.
YEAH, WE, WE WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY, UH, CREATING TROUBLE OVER THERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA EXPECT YOU TO ALL STEP UP AND SPONSOR AND HELP US OUT,
UM, SO I THINK WE'LL MAKE IT OKAY.
WE'LL JUST SHIFT AROUND TO THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF THE COURTHOUSE AND USE THE, THE, UH, LIBRARY PARKING LOT, PROBABLY MORE THIS YEAR THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
WELL, IF, IF, IF YOU COULD KEEP THE THOROUGHFARE, SO THE LIBRARY'S OPEN ON SATURDAYS, RIGHT? IF YOU COULD KEEP THE THOROUGHFARE CLEAR AT SURE.
AT LEAST, AT LEAST ON SATURDAY.
SO, SO YOU'LL DO ANYTHING TO BLOCK ANYTHING OVER THERE ON SUNDAY.
THANK, WHAT TIME ARE THEY CLOSED, DO YOU KNOW? FOUR.
WE'LL JUST GET IT SET UP AND THEN, UH, FIRST THING SUNDAY MORNING, WE CAN DO OUR BARRICADE AND WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, THAT'S NO PROBLEM.
JUST TO ECHO WHAT THE JUDGE SAID.
JUST TO ECHO WHAT THE JUDGE SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, MARCINE THE LIBRARIAN? I DO.
WOULD YOU PLEASE MEET WITH HER? BECAUSE I'VE TALKED WITH HER AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TOO, AND PROBABLY EVERYBODY HERE HAS.
UM, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT SHE HAS HER PAP PEOPLE GET IN AND IF YOU'D MEET WITH HER, SHE COULD SHOW YOU WHAT'S SATURDAY IS AND SUNDAY I THINK IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
NO, WE'LL KEEP OUTTA THEIR WAY.
MAKE SURE THEY'VE GOT PLENTY OF ACCESS IN AND OUT AND, UH, UM, THAT WON'T BE A PROBLEM.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR, OUR 20TH CAR SHOW THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'LL BE 17TH WILL BE SET UP, 18TH WILL BE FOR THE CAR SHOW.
UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO A BIG SHOW.
AND JUST QUICK NOTE, YOU'VE GOT BROCHURES THERE, SO IF YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SPONSORSHIP OF THE CAR SHOW, PLEASE HAVE 'EM GET IN TOUCH WITH US.
THEY CAN ALSO CONTACT LONE STAR CASA OVER HERE ON KENWAY AND, UH, WE'LL GET 'EM SIGNED UP AND, UM, BRING SOME MORE CARS AND GET SOME MORE SPONSORS AND DO OUR VERY BEST TO HIT THAT MILLION DOLLARS.
ON YOUR APPLICATION, YOU DID HAVE THAT, YOU HAVE LIBERTY HALL LISTED AS U USE OF THAT DAY AS WELL, CORRECT? ON BOTH DAYS? CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? WE USE THAT FOR INDOOR WHEN IT GETS HOT.
UH, PEOPLE HAVE A PLACE TO GO SIT DOWN AND COOL OFF.
WE ALSO USE THE INDOOR RESTROOMS. OKAY.
PRIMARILY FOR THE RESTROOMS. CORRECT.
SO HAVE WE EVER, DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, HAVE WE EVER DONE ANY TYPE OF, UM, UH, ANY TYPE OF A, AN ARRANGEMENT WITH THEM? LIKE THE, I I THINK WE HAD THAT EXACT ARRANGEMENT LAST YEAR.
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IT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.BARRY COMPTON IS RIGHT BEHIND YOU.
LARRY, I DON'T MEAN TO SHOCK YOU.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING A WAIVER OF FEES.
THEY ALWAYS PAY THE PAY THE COST.
WE HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE TWO SHERIFFS INSIDE.
AND OF COURSE WE'VE HAVE DAN DAVID JONES, HE DOES OUR OUTSIDE SECURITY FOR THE LOT.
I, I HAD A, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, SO WE HAVE A GROUNDS APPLICATION POLICY NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A YEAR AGO.
IS THERE A REASON THAT THIS WASN'T DONE THAT WAY? IS IT BECAUSE IT'S A TWO DAY EVENT, OR, UM, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A GROUNDS POLICY, ESPECIALLY WITH THEM NOT WAIVING FEES OR NOT HAVING ANY ISSUES THAT WAY, THAT IT COULD BE DONE THAT WAY.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
UH, OTHER THAN THIS IS THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT, IT WHAT, WHAT THE COMMISSIONER IS GETTING TO, ALL YOU REALLY HAVE TO DO IS CALL BARRY OKAY.
AND THEN HE'LL TELL YOU, YES, IT OKAY, IT, IT'S YOURS.
BUT THIS DOES GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO BROADCAST THIS A LITTLE BIT TO PEOPLE.
AND, AND, AND RAISE AWARENESS JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND, AND MY POINT TO THAT IS, WE COULD DO THAT UNDER SOME SORT OF RECOGNITION OF GUESTS AND THEY COULD TALK ABOUT THE EVENT, BUT THAT WAY YOU DON'T THINK THAT THE EVENT IS IN JEOPARDY.
I I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS REQUIRES A VOTE OF THE COURT, ALTHOUGH WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUST DO, I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T DO THAT THIS TIME.
WE ARE GONNA VOTE SINCE IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
IT, WE KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON OVER THERE.
SO WE, WE LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE GET THE, THE DATE OFFICIALLY PUT DOWN IN RESERVE SO THAT SOMETHING ELSE DOESN'T HAPPEN.
UH, LAST YEAR THERE WAS A LITTLE SMALL ISSUE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE STARTING UP MM-HMM
BARRY HAS HELPED US A LOT, AND HE ALWAYS DOES A GOOD JOB FOR US.
MY, MY HOPE IS NEXT YEAR OUR CONSTRUCTION IS OUTTA YOUR WAY.
AND, AND, UH, PARKING LOT IS FREED UP.
BUT YEAH, GOING FORWARD, JUST GET A HOLD OF BARRY AND HE'LL RETURN.
BUT VERY, THEN YOU CAN COME AND, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU, WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME TIME.
YOU BE, DOES, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? QUESTION? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UH, THAT WE, UH, GRANT CARS FOR CASA, UTILIZATION OF THE PARKING LOT OF THE MAIN COURTHOUSE.
SATURDAY, MAY 17TH, 2025 FOR SETUP AND SUNDAY, MAY 18TH, TWO 20, 2025, UH, FOR THEIR CAR SHOW.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUANO.
I'LL SECOND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
STACY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? LET'S GET OUR VOTE GOING.
IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW.
STILL, STILL THERE? IT'S, THERE WE GO.
NOW, NOW IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MAKE THAT MILLION, THE STATE HOUSE, UH,
[3. Discuss/Act on the Rockwall County Strategic Plan 2050, and all related issues; (Commissioner Macalik)]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS AN ACT ON ROCKWALL COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN 2050 AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.I'VE GOT A, I'VE GIVEN YOU GUYS THE, UM, A POWERPOINT I WAS GOING TO, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC, PLEASE? NO, I'M KIDDING.
I WAS JUST GONNA PICK THIS UP FOR EVERYBODY SO THEY COULD SEE IT.
I JUST WANNA GET, JUST WANNA GIVE EVERYBODY AN UPDATE.
UM, WE ARE ON, ON JANUARY THE NINTH.
THE FIRST VERSION OF THE, OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN DRAFT WAS PROVIDED TO US FROM OUR, UM, CONSULTANT BAKER TILLY.
WE, UM, WE HAD A VE EDITING TEAM AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT IT AND WE HAVE RETURNED IT BACK TO BAKER TILLY, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THE SECOND DRAFT FOR US, UM, ON THE PLAN.
WE SHOULD HAVE IT BY END OF DAY TOMORROW ON THE 29TH.
AND THEN THE EXCITEMENT WILL START HAPPENING BECAUSE WE, UM, WILL PRESENT IT TO, UM, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
EACH OF YOU WILL RECEIVE ONE AND OUR CSC AND THE EDITING TEAM WILL BE BEGIN TO LOOK AT THIS, THIS NEXT, UM, VERSION.
AND, UM, WE WILL EXPECT IF ANYONE HAS ANY, UM, ADDITIONS AND, UM, OR HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON AND IMPROVEMENT OR REVISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.
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THE DRAFT, UM, THAT DRAFT BACK TO BAKER TILLY ON THE 28TH OF THIS MONTH.AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE BETWEEN THE 28TH AND THE 11TH.
UM, BAKER TILLY WILL BE HERE IN THE, IN THE COURTROOM, UM, TO, LET'S SEE, TO PRESENT THE DRAFT PLAN TO, UM, THE COUNTY AND OUR PUBLIC.
WE WILL, UM, WE WILL, WE'LL DO THAT ON MARCH THE 11TH.
AND AT THAT SAME TIME, WE WILL THEN POST THIS, THE, THE PLAN ON OUR COUNTY WEBSITE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW.
AND WE'LL DO, WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN.
AND UNTIL THE, OUR MEETING ON THE 25TH OF MARCH, UM, AT OUR COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING, THAT WE WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC IN REGARDS TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND THEN BETWEEN THE 25TH AND APRIL 8TH, WE WILL ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS IF WE, IF, IF, IF THE COURT DEEMS SO.
AND THEN, UM, THE PLAN IS ON APRIL 8TH AT OUR COURT MEETING, WE WILL DISCUSS, TAKE ACTION FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN 2050.
AND IF NEED BE, WE HAVE SET A SECOND DATE, WHICH WOULD BE THE 22ND, UM, OUR, OUR SECOND COURT MEETING IN APRIL, IF IF NECESSARY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT SO FAR? YES, SIR.
UM, YEAH, I DUNNO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MICS HERE, BUT YEAH.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, DANA, OR COMMISSIONER M**K, I'M SORRY.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG LOT OF WORK AND I'VE WATCHED IT ALL HAPPEN AND APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS VERY MUCH.
UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DEAL WITH IN THIS PROJECT IS, UH, PUBLIC INPUT, TRANSPARENCY, ET CETERA.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION ON MARCH 11TH.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS, WHICH I GUESS HERE IS GONNA BE HERE IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
UM, AND I KNOW WE'RE WAY DOWN THE ROAD ON THIS AND YOU DON'T WANNA REWRITE A PLAN BASED ON COMMENTS, BUT IT JUST APPEARS TO ME LIKE, UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO INVITE PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE SHOULD BE SOME WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING OR METHOD FOR US TO DISCUSS IT IF WE'RE GONNA CHANGE.
I KNOW YOU SAYS THE COURT DISCUSSED AN ACTION, YOU GOT A BACKUP DATE IN CASE IT TAKES A WHILE, BUT IT JUST SEEMED TO ME THAT, UM, IF WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO GIVE US INPUT, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME MECHANISM FOR DEALING WITH ANY INPUT WE MIGHT GET.
UM, I, WE CAN PUT, WE CAN, I CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND LOOK AT THAT FROM A TIMELINE STANDPOINT.
THE DATA IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED.
SO, UM, IF WE HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT DO HAVE INPUT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WOULDN'T BE VALID, BUT REMEMBER WE DID RECEIVE OVER 12,000 INPUTS, SO THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT MOST OF IT WAS ADDRESSED, UM, AND IS, AND IS IN THE PLAN.
UM, BUT I THINK IF THERE ARE, IF THERE ARE TRUE OBJECTIONS, THEN YES, I THINK A WORKSHOP WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, WOULD DO.
AND WHETHER WE WOULD ACT ON THAT WORKSHOP, IT PROBABLY WOULD BE MORE OF A, OF A TRUE WORKSHOP.
I, I, I'M LOOKING AT YOU, JUDGE.
SO NO, IT, IT, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I AM PRO WORKSHOP.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE GET MM-HMM
ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND MM-HMM
AND, AND ACTUALLY GET THINGS DONE.
UH, I, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT AND WOULD ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE, SO, AND WE COULD EVEN HAVE IT, UM, AFTER THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, I, I WOULD ASK FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS GOING FORWARD TO HELP ME HELP OTHERS.
'CAUSE I HAVE, UH, BEEN KNOWN IN MY DEFAULT SETTING IS TO WORK THROUGH LUNCH.
AND THAT'S A QUICK PATH TO PEOPLE BEING DISGRUNTLED.
SO IF YOU GUYS WOULD HELP ME REALIZE THAT WE DO NEED TO TAKE LUNCH BREAKS, UH, WHEN WE HAVE WORKSHOPS AFTER COMMISSIONER'S COURT MM-HMM
BUT NO, I'M, I'M ALL FOR A WORKSHOP AND I, I I, I THINK THAT THERE COULD BE SOME, THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME CITIZENS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AWARE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IS GOING ON.
AND YES, THERE COULD BE SOME COMMENTS, BUT MY BELIEF IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DATA TO SUPPORT THE, THE, THE REASONINGS AND HOW THE, THE PLAN'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER.
AND THAT MAY JUST BE AN, THAT MAY ANSWER PROBABLY 90% OR MORE OF QUESTIONS THAT CITIZENS MAY HAVE.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, IT, UM, IT, IT COULD BE, I THINK WE'RE, I'M NOT CERTAIN IF WE, IF IF THE, IF THERE IS A WORKSHOP AND WHAT THE OUTCOME WOULD BE, WHERE THAT WOULD PLACE THE STRATEGIC PLAN, EITHER, UM, AT THIS POINT, WELL, AND IT, IT MAY VERY WELL BE THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
AND I THINK YOUR ANALYSIS AND RESPONSE TO MY COMMENT WAS GREAT.
AND I'M NOT SAYING SCHEDULE IT NOW, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE ASKING THE PUBLIC FOR COMMENT, THAT WE TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
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I'LL, THAT, THAT TAKES ME TO ONE MORE ITEM ON HERE THAT I JUST WANT TO, IF YOU SEE THE, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS IMPLEMENTATION MANAGEMENT PROCESS AND SUPPORT.I JUST WANNA KEEP THE, THE, UM, THE COURT AS WELL AS EVERYONE HERE IN THE, UM, IN THE COURTROOM AND PERHAPS LISTENING THAT THAT IS THE NEXT STEP, UM, THAT WE WOULD BEGIN TO, UM, BEGIN TO, TO, UM, IT'S IN THE DEPLOY.
IT'S IN THE, IF YOU GO TO THE, WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR THIRD PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE FINAL, THE FINAL SECTION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, THAT'S JUST, YEAH.
IT'S THE PHASE FOUR IS CALLED DEPLOY.
AND AS WE GET READY TO DEPLOY THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THE THANK YOU.
STACY, WHEN YOU GET READY TO DEPLOY THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THE LAST THING YOU DO IS WE LOOK AT THE, UM, THE FRAMEWORK FOR IMPLEMENTATION WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THE, THE EMPLOYEES, THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.
AND THEY'RE, UM, THAT PART OF THE STR STRATEGIC, THE STRATEGIC PLAN SCOPE THAT BAKER TILLY PROVIDED US WITH IS THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US SOME BEST PRACTICES.
THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE US WITH SOME FRAMEWORK EXAMPLES FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
THEY ARE, THEIR SCOPE DID NOT INCLUDE THEM TAKING THE NEXT STEP TO HELP US WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION.
AND, UM, I'M, I, I'M STARTING TO WORK THROUGH SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT I WANNA BRING BACK TO THE COURT IN REGARDS TO HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT PREPARING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENSURED THE, THE SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE ALREADY AGREED FOR THE SOFTWARE, WHICH IS INVISIO, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE THE PLAN AND MAKE IT TO WHERE IT'S ALL TRANSPARENT, BUT IT'S THE ACTUAL, THE TEAMWORK AND THIS, THE SUPPORT FROM THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THIS COURT IS WHERE IT'S GOING TO, UM, BE VERY INSTRUMENTAL FOR US TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH THE PLAN ONCE WE APPROVE IT.
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING REQUIRES ACTION ON THIS TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
[4. Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE COURTHOUSE, COURTROOM ADDITIONS, THIRD FLOOR PROJECT, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.COMMISSIONER GUANA, MAN, HE HAS LEARNED THAT DEFLECTION QUICKLY.
UM, SO FOR THE COURTHOUSE EDITION PROJECT, UH, REALLY THE ONLY STEP THAT WE'RE WAITING ON NOW IS THE, UM, THE FORMAL NOTICE TO PROCEED TO BE ISSUED TO HELEN WILKINSON.
I THINK WE'VE KIND OF CLEARED THAT UP THROUGH EMAIL NOW AND, AND FIGURED OUT WHAT WE NEED.
SO WE JUST NEED TO GET THAT FORMALLY ISSUED AND THAT THEY'LL BE ON SITE AND, AND MOBILIZED.
UM, I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ITEM ON HERE FOR THE TOPIC THAT WE HAD ABOUT HDR.
WE CAN, THERE IS SAVE THAT OR, UH, BUT THAT'S MY, UH, YEAH.
IF, IF THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE, LET, LET, LET'S JUST GO A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER.
'CAUSE I, I, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES A ACTION.
THERE'S OTHER, UH, OTHER THAN WE MIGHT AS WELL TAKE ACTION AND DO A FORMAL NOTICE TO PROCEED IF, IF THE COURT WOULD, UH, WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT.
I, I, I WOULD IF COMMISSIONER GOANA RECOMMENDS THAT BEFORE WE TAKE ANY ACTION, I JUST HAVE, I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT AND, UM, THIS ACOUSTIC STUFF IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN, BUT YOU'RE BRAND NEW
SO, UH, YEAH, WE, WE HAVE ROOMS THAT AREN'T FUNCTIONING PROPERLY BECAUSE, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE AWARE OF AND YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF 'CAUSE YOU'RE, THIS IS YOUR SECOND MEETING
BUT I JUST WANNA SAY I'M, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, MOVE FORWARD, GET EVERYTHING MOVING, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE THE ACOUSTIC VERY SERIOUSLY IN THE EXISTING COURTROOMS. SOME WAY, SOMEHOW, HOPEFULLY WE HAVE THAT IN, IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I'M, I'M, I SEE BARRY WALKING UP, BUT YEAH, I, I BELIEVE WHAT THE JUDGE HAD PROPOSED, UH, EARLY IN THIS PROJECT, WHICH I, I, I AGREED WITH, IS ONCE THESE NEW COURTROOMS ARE DONE, THAT GIVES US THE AVAILABILITY TO SHUFFLE FOLKS AROUND SO THAT WE EMPTY OUT A COURTROOM AND CAN DO THAT.
I WAS JUST EDITORIALIZING THE FACT THAT WE'RE TAKING IT OUT BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE.
BUT YOU BEING THE PERSON NOW IN CHARGE OF THE THIRD FLOOR, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PUT IT BACK.
AND, AND I'M WILLING TO GO WITH A PLAN.
I JUST WANTED TO JUST MAKE THOSE COMMENTS.
THE INFILL PROJECT WILL IN FACT BE COMPLETED.
AND SO THEY, THAT'S KIND OF WHY IT WAS TAKEN OUT TOO.
'CAUSE IT, IT WILL BE A NEW PROJECT AT THAT POINT, I THINK, UH, IS THE WAY I REMEMBER.
I JUST WANTED BOBBY TO KNOW THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT O ON, ON ON THE RECORD.
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ACOUSTICS ARE IMPORTANT.I THINK WE, WE CAN PROCEED NOW AND THAT THAT WOULD BE A SECONDARY PROJECT AFTER WE GET THROUGH WITH THIS, THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH IT.
BUT BEFORE ACTION, I HAD ONE MORE ITEM THAT I THOUGHT WAS A DIFFERENT AGENDA POINT, BUT IS SHOULD BE DISCUSSED HERE FOR IT.
AND THAT IS, UH, THE AD SERVICE POTENTIAL AGREEMENT WITH HDR FOR THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING CONTROLS THAT, THAT AND FIRE ALARM, IS THAT NOT AGENDA ITEM? IT IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM.
THAT'S WHY I'M PULLING UP IN THE GENERAL PROJECT ITEM HERE.
UM, THE, THE ISSUE WE'VE REQUESTED A, UM, AN AN ADDITIONAL SERVICE PROPOSAL FROM HDR AND THEIR, THEIR MEP ENGINEER THAT THEY HAD CONTRACTED FOR THIS PROJECT IS, HAS NO CAPACITY, UH, TO ADD THIS BACK INTO THEIR SCOPE.
UM, SO THERE'S GONNA BE A, A, A QUESTION OF IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BRING IN A NEW MEP ENGINEER OR IF THE COUNTY GOES WITH SOMEBODY SEPARATE, UM, OR IS A DELEGATED DESIGN THROUGH THE CONTRACTOR.
SO I THINK THAT'S QUESTIONS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO BRING UP WITH CRAIG AND, AND THE LEGAL TEAM, I THINK, UM, IN THE PROCUREMENT LAW THERE.
SO I'M, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, I'M KIND OF HEARING WE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE AT, AT ACTING ON THIS.
WELL, THIS IS FOR AN AD AD SERVICE AND ADD DESIGN AD SERVICE.
AND THE NOTICE TO PROCEED IS JUST FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN TO COMMENCE.
BUT WHAT HDR IS SAYING TO US IS THAT WHEN WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, WORK ON THE FIRE ALARM AND THE LIGHTING THAT THEIR CURRENT ME ENGINEERS, WHICH IS NAMED SPECIFICALLY IN THE CONTRACT YES.
THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO, TO DO THE WORK.
SO IT, IT WOULD NEED TO BE AN AMENDED CONTRACT IF WE WERE, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW PROCUREMENT LAW IF THAT'S ALLOWED OR NOT.
AND, AND WE JUST GOT THIS YESTERDAY, SO WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO THROW IT AT LEGAL YET.
UH, BUT THE, THIS SPECIFIC WORDING IN THE CONTRACT DOES STIPULATE ONE ENGINEER FIRM.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WE, WE NEED A LAWYER TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
THERE IS, THERE IS A LINE IN THERE THAT SAYS, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S CONSULTANTS CARRIED UNDER SUPPLEMENTAL SERVICES.
UM, SO YOU COULD LIKELY ADD IT INTO THAT AREA.
UM, OR, UM, AGAIN, AGAIN, GO WITH THE DELEGATED DESIGN THROUGH THE CONTRACT WOULD BE MY TOP TWO OPTIONS.
UH, BUT I'D HAVE TO TALK TO CRAIG FIRST.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS THERE'S GET HIM A NOTICE TO PROCEED AND THEN RIGHT.
ONE IS THE DESIGN AND ONE, ONE IS CONSTRUCTION, SO.
WELL, IF, UH, SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY IS SO INCLINED TO MAKE A MOTION, I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, OR DO YOU WANNA WAIT TILL AFTER THE MOTION? UM, E EITHER WAY.
UM, OKAY, BOBBY, I READ THIS LETTER AND I READ THE ATTACHMENTS AND THE EXHIBIT AND ALL THAT.
CAN YOU TELL ME IN ENGLISH WHAT'S GOING ON,
SO IF YOU COULD JUST GIMME A REAL SHORT
SO THE ACOUSTICS WERE GONNA PULL OUT AND WE'RE GONNA HANDLE THAT AS A PROJECT AFTER ON THE EXISTING COURTROOMS, WHAT HAPPENED ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE SPEND WAS THAT THEY OVERSPENT ON, UM, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT REALLY CHARGING US ANYMORE MONEY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA TAKE THE COST ON THEMSELVES, BUT THEY'RE JUST ASKING TO SWITCH A COUPLE LINE ITEMS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS LETTER, AND THAT'S THE OTHER, THAT'S THE OTHER AGENDA ITEM.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEM.
SO THIS LETTER AND THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM.
ISN'T THAT WHAT WE'RE MOVING TO ACT ON NOW? NO, NO, NO.
WE'RE JUST GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
WELL, I'LL WAIT TO TALK TILL WE GET TO ITEM NINE THEN.
OKAY, WELL I BETTER ASK IT NOW.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMED LIKE.
IT'S JUST REALLOCATION OF SOME BUDGET LINE ITEMS. IT IS.
AND IT TAKING ACOUSTICS OUT OF IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS? NOT THAT, NOT THAT ONE, NO.
NOW I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY'S SO INCLINED.
SO THIS IS JUST A MOTION TO PROCEED WITH HILL AND WILKINSON, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROCEED TO CONSTRUCTION WITH HILL AND WILKINSON.
I'LL SECOND GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
NOW WE'RE, HOLD, HOLD TIGHT SALVADOR, WE ARE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA PICK UP EIGHT AND NINE.
WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GONNA GO OUTTA ORDER.
[8. Discuss/Act on appointing Commissioner Gallana as the Rockwall County agent to contract on behalf of Rockwall County pursuant to section 262.001 of the Local Government Code with the agent being limited to unscheduled expenses as related to the 3rd Floor Courtroom Infill Project and that the agent may be cancelled by the Commissioners Court at its discretion and is further moved to set amount up to $25,000, which Commissioner Gallana is authorized to act, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)]
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TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPOINTING COMMISSIONER GUANA AS THE ROCKWALL COUNTY AGENT CONTRACT ON BEHALF OF ROCKWALL COUNTY PURSUANT TO SECTION 2 6 2 0.001 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE WITH THE AGENT BEING LIMITED TO UNSCHEDULED EXPENSES AS RELATED TO THE THIRD FLOOR COURTROOM INFIELD PROJECT.AND THAT THE AGENT MAY BE CANCELED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AT ITS DISCRETION AND IS FURTHER MOVED TO SET UP AMOUNT UP TO $25,000, WHICH COMMISSIONER GUANA IS AUTHORIZED TO ACT IN ALL RELATED ISSUES.
COMMISSIONER GOANA, I THINK THAT AGENDA ITEM KIND OF SUMMARIZED IT.
I THINK IT PRETTY MUCH EXPLAINED ITSELF.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[9. Discuss/Act on approving a revised Exhibit B to the HDR Rockwall County 3rd floor Infill project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)]
TO AGENDA ITEM NINE.DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING A REVISED EXHIBIT B TO THE HDR ROCKWALL COUNTY THIRD FLOOR INFIELD PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.
YEAH, SO, UH, ESSENTIALLY A HDR OVERSPEND IN CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, UNDERSPEND AND SCHEMATIC DESIGN AND DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS WORD, IT IS A NOT TO PROCEED AMOUNT.
UM, SO THEY'RE JUST REQUESTING THAT THOSE NOT TO PROCEED AMOUNTS IN SCHEMATIC AND DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, UM, BE PAID OUT AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA EAT THE LOSS ON THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
UM, AND MY ONLY COMMENT IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS FUNDED FOR BY THE COUNTY ALREADY, UM, SINCE WE ARE A NEW BUDGET YEAR FROM WHEN THEY STARTED.
UM, SO THAT'D BE MY ONLY CONCERN, IS THAT THOSE LINE ITEMS HAVE ALREADY BEEN, UM, BUDGETED OUT, UH, OR NOT, UH, OR IF THAT MONEY'S BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THEM ALREADY.
UM, AND THAT I'M JUST NOT AWARE OF.
YES, IT WAS BUDGETED AND THE WAY OF THE HDR BILLED US WAS NOT BY PHASES.
UH, AND IT WAS A CONTRACTUAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED A A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
SO EACH PHASE WAS NOT SEPARATE.
SO IN MY INTERPRETATION, YOU ARE MORE THAN ABLE TO DO THIS, UH, THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY, WE SET THE MONEY ASIDE FOR THIS PROJECT AND, UH, THEY DID NOT BILL US IN PHASES.
THEY WERE THE ONES ACCOUNTING FOR THEIR PHASES.
AND THAT'S HOW TYPICALLY HOW DESIGN PROFESSIONALS ACCOUNT FOR IT'S IN PHASES AND THEN THEY JUST GIVE ONE BILL.
SO WHAT THEY SAID WAS IN TWO PHASES, THEY WENT UNDER BUDGET.
IN ONE PHASE, THEY WENT OVER BUDGET AND THEY'D LIKE TO MEET US IN THE MIDDLE.
THEY'LL EAT THE PART THAT'S NOT, UH, BILLABLE TO US, BUT THEY'D LIKE TO BILL FOR SOME OF IT IN THE, IN THE PORTIONS WHERE THEY WERE UNDER, UH, BUDGET.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? UM, JUST REAL QUICK.
SO NET IMPACT TO US ON THIS IS ZERO.
AND YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THIS.
THE, THE CONTRACT DID SAY NOT TO EXCEED.
UM, BUT, UH, BUT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T BILL IN PHASES, I CAN SEE THEIR PREDICAMENT THAT, UH, THAT THEY, AND WE DID NOT CONTRACT BY PHASE, WE CONTRACTED IN A TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT.
AND IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS CLEAR THAT'S NOT CHANGING.
AND THAT'S WHAT JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE IT.
I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REVISED EXHIBIT B TO THE HDR ROCKWELL COUNTY THIRD FLOOR INFIELD PROJECT.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
[10. Discuss/Act on approving the Request for Proposal for High Point Ranch Road Repair and Improvements on Eagle Pass and authorize the Auditor to advertise by public notice, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)]
AND TAKE AGENDA ITEM 10 WHILE, WHILE WE'RE OVER HERE.'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT NEED TO OH, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE FOR YOU, SAL? THAT, THAT'S ALL.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 10.
DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR HIGH POINT WRENCH ROAD REPAIR AND IMPROVEMENTS ON EAGLE PASS.
AND AUTHORIZE THE AUDITOR TO ADVERTISE BY PUBLIC NOTICE IN ALL RELATED ISSUES.
COMMISSIONER LTE? YEAH, THIS IS A ROAD IN HIGH POINT RANCH EAGLE PASS.
IS WAYNE HERE? NO, WAYNE'S NOT HERE.
UM, ANYWAY, WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT THIS.
UH, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET AT SOME REPAIRS BEFORE THEY GET WORSE.
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POTHOLES IN THE ROAD.WE'VE GOT CRACKING IN CONCRETE AND IT'S GONNA TRY, IT'S SPREADING.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH IT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
UM, HE, I, I WOULD, I WOULD APPLAUD HIM FOR HIS EFFORTS IN COMING TO US QUICKLY AND SAYING, LET'S FIX IT BEFORE IT GETS WORSE.
UH, WHICH I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF.
UM, AND, UH, WE, WAYNE CONFIRMED WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET, WHICH I WOULD, THE AUDITOR IS NODDING HER HEAD TO CONFIRM ALSO.
SO CONFIRMED
SHERRY MORENO FROM THE, UM, AUDITOR'S DEPARTMENT DID A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, WHICH IS INCLUDED.
AND SHERRY, I'LL LET YOU EXPLAIN THAT.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT AS PART OF THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, WE PREPARE THE RFPS.
UH, ONCE IT IS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THEN WE WILL PUT THE NOTICE, UH, THE OFFICIAL NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER, UH, THAT WILL ALLOW, UH, FOLKS TO BID ON THIS PROJECT.
WE ALSO PUT IT ON BID NET, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE RFP, UH, THE DATES ARE IN THERE AS WELL, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHEN THE CUTOFF IS, WHEN THE PROPOSALS ARE DUE, AND THEN WHEN WE WILL SUBMIT THE CONTRACT, UH, TO YOU FOR APPROVAL OF WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO SELECT.
UH, NUMBER ONE, WE, WE, UH, WE'D SAY WE HAVE THE MONEY.
WHERE, WHERE ARE WE GETTING THE MONEY? AND NUMBER TWO, HOW DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE NEED PRIOR TO GOING OUT TO BID? WELL, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT'S AN ESTIMATE.
UM, IF THE BIDS COME IN MORE THAN OUR BUDGET MM-HMM
UM, BUT BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS WITH WAYNE, UH, JUDGE, UH, HE BELIEVES THAT THE BID WILL COME IN UNDER OUR BUDGET.
I THINK WE HAVE $200,000 BUDGETED FOR THIS, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE AUDITOR NODDING YES.
UM, AND HE EXPECTS THIS'LL COME IN, IN THE 188,000 RANGE.
AND IN FACT, THERE'S TWO SEGMENTS OF THIS ROAD, WHICH AREN'T QUITE AS BAD, AND HE THINKS THERE'S A CHANCE IT'LL COME IN LOWER.
AND IF IT DOES, THEN HE'S GONNA ASK THEM, CAN YOU FIT THOSE OTHER TWO SEGMENTS IN? AND THEN WE'D PROBABLY COME BACK AND HAVE TO AMEND THIS OR REVIEW IT AT THAT POINT.
IT'S COMING FROM CONTRACT LABOR, I BELIEVE, UNDER THE ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THERE IS A $200,000 LINE ANNUALLY, UH, WE PUT IN THERE FOR, UH, ONE, BASICALLY ONE PROJECT A YEAR.
SO COMMISSIONER LTE HAS LEARNED HOW TO GET, GET INTO THE BUDGET AND, AND CLAIM HIS PROJECT.
I WOULD THANK, UH, WAYNE HENSLEY FOR KEEPING UP WITH OUR ROADS.
DO YOU MIND IF I EDITORIALIZE HERE A MINUTE? NO, PLEASE, PLEASE.
UM, I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH WAYNE AND DAVID AND WE DROVE OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT AND HE TOOK ME ON A GREAT TOUR OF OUR PRECINCT THREE THE OTHER DAY, AND WE HAD A LOT OF FUN
UM, BUT ONE THING I'VE ASKED WAYNE TO DO, AND COMMISSIONER STACY WAS WITH ME WHEN WE MET WITH HIM, IS TO COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE, UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTY THAT WE HAVE GOOD ROADS.
RIGHT? UH, AND SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO IS COME UP WITH A PRIORITIZATION AND COSTS FOR NEXT YEAR SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH EVEN MORE ISSUES THAN THE ONE PROJECT A YEAR, WHICH, UH, THE AUDITOR, UH, MS. WILEY, UH, MENTIONED.
SO, AND, AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, THAT LAUREN AND I HAVE A BULK OF THE COUNTY ROADS.
SO HIM AND I ARE OF THE, LIKE, MIND OF TRYING TO REALLY TAKE THE BULL BY THE HORNS ON THIS AND COME UP WITH A REAL PLAN, UM, BEFORE THE BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A PLAN THAT WE CAN DISCUSS INSTEAD OF COMING IN AFTER THE BUDGET.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY WE ARE OF A LIKE MIND AND WE'RE NOT A FORMAL COMMITTEE, BUT HIM AND I ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH ROAD AND BRIDGE TO, TO COME UP WITH A GOOD PLAN THAT WE CAN BRING TO THE COURT AT BUDGET TIME AS FAR AS TACKLING THESE COUNTY ROADS.
UM, AND WAYNE IS SITTING THERE THINKING, AM I GONNA GET OUTTA HERE WITHOUT HAVING TO SAY WAYNE? ANYTHING? WAYNE, YOU'RE NOT.
UM, AND I KIND OF EXPLAINED HOW THIS FITS WITHIN THE BUDGET, AND THERE'S THAT ONE SECTION THAT YOU MENTIONED.
WE MIGHT TRY AND GET EVEN MORE WORK IF WE CAN GET A, UH, A BID THAT COMES IN LOW ENOUGH AND CAN JUST TO RESPOND
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TO SOME QUESTIONS EARLIER, JUST YOU THINK THAT BID WILL COME IN AND ARRANGE WHEN WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THE WORK THAT'S OUTLINED IN HERE AND POSSIBLY MORE.IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO, YES.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO, SIR.
SO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYBODY HAVE A COMMENT? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ISSUING A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR HIGH POINT RANCH ROAD REPAIR AND IMPROVEMENTS ON EAGLE PASS AND AUTHORIZE THE AUDITOR TO ADVERTISE BY PUBLIC NOTICE.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL RECORD YOUR VOTES NOW.
[5. Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the American Rescue Plan monies and the planned County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]
WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK AS I AM PRONE TO DO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONIES AND THE PLANNED COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.
COMMISSIONER STACY, AND I'M JUST GONNA BUY 30 SECONDS FOR OUR BROADEST TEAM TO GET PLUGGED IN AND READY TO GO HERE.
WHAT, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, AND, AND THIS IS JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA TALK A LOT ABOUT SOME CONTINGENCIES AND SOME STUFF.
SO IF YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH BASICALLY AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, I'M OKAY WITH KIND OF MIXING THEM UP.
YOU'LL SEE KIND OF WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE REPORT THAT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE TO TAKE IT ALL AS AN IDEA, UM, ALL AT ONCE.
UM, BECAUSE I ASKED, UH, THE BROADEST TO REALLY DIG INTO THE BUYOUT SAVINGS, THE OWNER'S ALLOWANCE, THE CONTINGENCIES AND THE OWNER'S CONTINGENCIES SO THE COURT CAN SEE THIS ALL LAID OUT BEFORE US ON, ON WHERE WE ARE WITH ALL THESE TOTALS.
'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT COMING AT US AND THEN PROBABLY WHAT, THREE MORE ON THE NEXT COURT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.
UM, AND SO I JUST KIND OF ASKED THEM TO, LET'S, LET'S DIVE TO, TO THAT PART OF IT, SO IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE.
AND TO BE QUITE HONEST, THERE'S NOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT ON NUMBER SIX, SO IT'S KIND OF
AND THE FLOOR'S YOURS, NICO? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
UH, SO JUST TO START AGAIN, MY NAME IS NICO PARKS.
UM, GIVEN THE UPDATE FOR ROCK WALL COUNTY ANNEX, UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY PERFORMING UNDER BUDGET AS COMMISSIONER STACY MENTIONED.
WE HAVE FOUR PCOS PCO 14 THROUGH 17 THAT ARE PENDING APPROVAL AND WILL BE VOTED ON TODAY.
AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR THAT ARE IN THE BULL PEN THAT WILL BE ON THE NEXT COURT'S AGENDA.
UM, YOU, IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE THE TABLE, UH, UP ON THE SCREEN, THOSE ARE ALL OF THE CONTINGENCIES, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE LEFT FOR THIS COLUMN IS WHAT WE STARTED WITH.
THE MIDDLE COLUMN, UH, SHOWS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND THEN THE PROJECTED REMAINING COLUMN SHOWS WITH PENDING CHANGES, UH, WHICH IS THE, THE FOUR PCOS NUMBER 18 THROUGH 21, UH, THAT ARE PENDING.
SO YEAH, YOUR PROJECTED REMAINING IS YOUR, YOUR BALANCE
AND SO 18 THROUGH 21, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THE FUR, THE FURTHEST RIGHT COLUMN PROJECTED REMAINING AND CAPTURES ALL OF THOSE PCOS THAT YOU SEE ABOVE IT, UH, AND IS THE MOST UP TO DATE.
UM, AND SO ALL OF THOSE ADDED TOGETHER EQUALS, UH, 1.26 MILLION OF REMAINING CONTINGENCY.
AND THAT'S, UH, CONSERVATIVE CONSIDERING, UH, FOR THE OWNER'S ALLOWANCES.
UM, THOSE INCLUDE THE, UH, FURNITURE FINISHES AND EQUIPMENT, THE IT EQUIPMENT SIGNAGE MOVE IN THE CODE COMPLIANCE INSPECTOR AND A, UH, ALLOWANCE FOR MISCELLANEOUS STEEL.
UM, AND WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL USE ALL OF THOSE ALLOWANCES.
AND SO THE PROJECTED REMAINING YOU SEE THERE, UM, ACTUALLY IS ASSUMING THAT WE ARE USING ALL OF THE ALLOWANCE.
SO IT'LL, IT'LL LIKELY BE, OR HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE MORE THAN EVEN THE 1.26 MILLION.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
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BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY CHANGES COMING TO YOU GUYS QUICKLY, THEY COME TO ME A LOT SLOWERUM, AND, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I ASKED TO KIND OF PUT THIS CHART TOGETHER.
SO ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON, NO, I LIKE THE CHART.
IF YOU CAN JUST, UM, ALSO GIVE US A CO IF I COULD, YOU COULD EMAIL ME A COPY OF THIS AS WELL OR, I, I BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW IF KNOW IF IT WENT OUT, BUT I THINK IT'S NOT IN MY PACKET, THAT'S WHY.
IT DIDN'T COME IN THE PACKET, BUT ON FRIDAY IT WAS EMAILED OUT, SO, UH, IT IS EMAILED, SO I WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET IT.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WHEN WE RECEIVE THEM, BUT I WILL MAKE SURE YOU'RE GETTING THEM.
YEAH, WE CAN UPDATE THIS FOR EACH COURT SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.
UM, BUT YEAH, OVERALL WE'RE PERFORMING UNDER BUDGET.
UM, WE LOST A COUPLE OF DAYS FROM THE RAIN, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UM, BUT IT WAS LESS THAN WHAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED WITH THE STRUCTURAL SLAB, UH, DATE GETTING PUSHED OUT.
UM, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, COULD YOU SLIDE THAT UP SO I CAN YEAH.
SEE THE BOTTOM? YEAH, SO A SIMPLE QUESTION, I THINK, WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE WE COMPLETE? UH, WE'RE ABOUT 50%.
AND ARE CONTINGENCIES WE'VE BARELY TOUCHED.
UM, AND I KNOW THIS IS ALL FEDERALLY CONTRACTED MONEY MM-HMM
RIGHT? AND IT HAD TO BE CONTRACTED BY DECEMBER 31, AND WE MET THOSE TESTS.
AND WE TRIED TO GET BACK AS MUCH AS WE COULD BEFORE THE END DATE ON WHAT WE KNEW
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAPPENS.
SO ON THESE CONTINGENCIES, IF WE DON'T SPEND THAT MONEY MM-HMM
IN CONSTRUCTION, WHAT HAPPENS TO IT? DOES IT GO BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? IT WOULD GO BACK TO FEDERAL DE UH, GOVERNMENT OR THE COUNTY COULD DECIDE TO REALLOCATE THOSE MONIES FOR OTHER PROJECTS?
SO, SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ANSWER YET, UM, ON HOW MUCH WOULD BE REMAINING OR HOW MUCH WOULD BE FREE.
HOW MUCH WOULD IT BE TIED TO ARPA? WE'RE, WE'RE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GRAY.
WE STILL HAVE A, BASICALLY THE FURNITURE PURCHASE AS OUR LAST REAL BIG, IT'S OUR LAST BIG PURCHASE, OUR LAST BIG PURCHASE.
AND THAT WILL CLEAR THE AIR AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE GOING.
UM, ON, ON THE, BY CLEAR THE AIR, YOU MEAN, IT'LL GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND WE CAN START ACCOUNTING FOR THE MONEY AND FIGURING OUT HOW MUCH OF IT IS TIED TO PROJECTS, HOW MUCH OF IT WE CAN CONSIDER AS INTEREST, HOW MUCH OF IT COULD BE JUST COMPLETELY JUST MOVED TO A WHOLE NOTHER PROJECT, OR HOW MUCH OF IT HAS TO STAY IN SOMETHING RELATING TO THIS PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THEN AS WE GO FORWARD THAT IF RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT, UH, 800 AND OR NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE, NINE HUNDRED $30,000 ABOUT AND CONTINGENCY MONEY LEFT, WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A BIG CONTINGENCY AT THE END, WE COULD IN MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO OUR CONTRACT AS LONG AS WE DON'T GO OVER THE GROSS NUMBER THAT'S CORRECT.
TO INCLUDE THINGS THAT WE MAY HAVE NOT INCLUDED ORIGINALLY.
I, I, I HAVE A PLAN, JUST SO YOU KNOW,
SAME WAY YOU FOUND ROAD MONEY.
UM, I, I'VE, I'VE HAD HAD A PLAN, UM, AND, AND SOON AS THE, THE MONEY IS REAL AND THAT'S AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION.
AS SOON AS IT'S REAL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BRING YOU MY PLAN.
AND DO, DOES THE PLAN HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE ARPA REQUIREMENTS, THOUGH? THE, THE, THE PLAN DOES ADHERE TO THE OH, IT DOES.
SO I'LL, SO WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR SLAB POURED
THE PICTURES DON'T, DON'T LOOK AS GOOD UP THERE AS THEY DO ON THIS LAPTOP, SO, OH, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
BUT THEY LOOK BETTER ON OUR SCREEN THAN THEY DO THAT SCREEN.
UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THE STRUCTURAL SLAB GOT POURED, UH, THAT WENT VERY WELL THERE.
UH, THE QUALITY OF THAT SLAB IS, IS ONE OF THE BEST I'VE SEEN
UM, THERE'S HARDLY, THERE'S, I HAVEN'T SEEN A CRACK IN IT YET.
UM, THERE'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S REALLY GOOD LOOKING.
YOU GUYS SHOULD GET OUT THERE AND, AND VIEW IT IF YOU CAN.
UM, THE PLUMBING, UH, THE, UH, PLUMBING FIXTURE CARRIERS WERE INSTALLED THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THE INTERIOR PARTITIONS AND CHASE WALLS WERE, UH, PUT INTO PLACE.
UM, THE ELECTRICIANS STARTED PULLING WIRE FOR SOME OF THE, THE FLOOR BOXES AS WELL AS DRILLING,
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DRILLING, UH, HOLES IN THE EXTERIOR PANELS FOR THE CANOPY LIGHTING.UM, THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED TEMPORARY TEMPORARY POWER AND TEMPORARY LIGHTING INSIDE OF THERE, UH, FOR, FOR THE WORKERS.
UM, WHAT ELSE HAVE WE GOT THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS? THEY'VE, THEY'VE REALLY GOTTEN A LOT DONE.
UM, THEY STARTED HANGING, UH, MECHANICAL DUCT SLEEVING.
UH, THEY STARTED, UH, GRADING FOR THE FIRE LANE.
UM, SO THEY'RE MAKING SOME GOOD PROGRESS ON SITE.
UM, LET'S GO TO THE OTHER PICTURES FRAMING.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE FRAMING THERE.
THE QC MOCKUP HAS, UH, ADHERED STONE AND, AND, AND BRICK ON IT.
BRICK VENEER, WHICH LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
UH, THE RIGID INSTALLATIONS BEEN INSTALLED ON THE INTERIOR OF THE, THE TILT WALL PANELS.
YOU CAN SEE ALL THE TRUNK DUCTS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED TO THE SITE AND ARE STORED.
UH, THE OVERALL TIDINESS OF THE SITE HAS BEEN EXCEPTIONAL.
UM, HELEN WILKINSON HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING THE JOB SITE CLEAN.
UH, THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE'LL BE, THEY'LL BE FOCUSED ON OVERHEAD DUCT WORK.
UM, THE ROUGH AND ELECTRICAL WILL CONTINUE.
UM, THEY'RE LOOKING TO START THE EFIS, UH, AT THE CLEAR STORY.
UM, AND THEN ALSO SETTING THE WINDOWS AT THE CLEAR STORY.
UH, THEY'LL BEGIN, UH, ONE BIG ACTIVITY THAT'S COMING UP IS THEY'LL BEGIN TO PREP FOR THE SUBGRADE FOR THE FIRE LANE.
UH, SO THERE'LL BE A LOT OF FLEX BASE THAT'LL BE DELIVERED AND DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE JOB SITE.
UM, AND THEN THEY'LL, OF COURSE THEY'LL BE, AFTER THAT THEY'LL BE FORMING, REINFORCING, AND THEN POURING THE FIRE LANES.
SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE GOT AHEAD OF US.
UM, PROCUREMENT WISE, ALL THE RTUS ARE, ARE ON OR NOT ON SITE, BUT ARE, HAVE ARRIVED AND ARE STORED OFFSITE.
UM, THE GENERATOR SHIPS ON FEBRUARY 11TH.
UH, I THINK I GAVE A WRONG UPDATE PREVIOUSLY SAYING IT HAD ALREADY SHIPPED.
UM, 'CAUSE THE ORIGINAL DATE WAS JANUARY 8TH, BUT THAT PUSHED A MONTH, UM, WHICH I DON'T THINK HAS IMPACTED US SCHEDULE-WISE.
BUT, UH, JUST FOR YOUR FORESIGHT, I WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UH, THE FURNITURE ORDER, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT PLACED BY MARCH.
UM, MILLWORK SHOPS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND OUR IN FABRICATION.
UM, IN TERMS OF QUALITY ASSURANCE, QUALITY CONTROL, YOU, I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THE, UM, THE MOCKUP IS COMING A LONG WAY.
UM, THERE WERE A FEW FLOOR BOXES, UH, IN THE SLAB THAT WERE ABOUT A FOOT OFF, UH, WHERE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO THERE IS SOME COORDINATION THAT MIGHT REQUIRE, UM, CUTTING AND AND REPLACING OF THE FLOOR BOX, UH, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE ENGINEER, UH, BEING THAT IT'S A STRUCTURAL SLAB.
UM, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO COORDINATE AND, AND WORK THROUGH, UH, THAT EFFORT.
UM, CAMBRIDGE IS ON SITE, UH, RESOLVING SOME OF THEIR QUALITY CONTROL ITEMS WITH THE CANOPY THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY, UH, BEEN CAUGHT BY CMJ.
UH, JUST A FEW WELDS HERE AND THERE.
MI UH, A MISSING BOLT OR TWO, UH, MINOR, MINOR THINGS.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE, UH, TOOK AN ACTION ON THOSE.
AND THEN, UH, CMJ IS ON SITE TAKING SOIL DENSITIES, UH, FOR UNDERNEATH THE FIRE LANE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THE SOIL IS COMPACTED, UH, TO THE, TO THE APPROPRIATE DESIGN CRITERIA.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE IN, IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION UPDATE.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, I'M NOT, DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT, IF YOU MISSED A FLOOR BOX, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ON STRUCTURAL, UH, FOUNDATION.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S EASILY FIXED? UM, SO THE F IT CAN BE, IT CAN NOT BE, SINCE IT'S A STRUCTURAL SLAB THERE AND THEY'RE HAVING TO CUT A NEW LOCATION FOR THE FLOOR BOX, WE'LL LOOK AT IT TO SEE IF WE EVEN NEED TO MOVE IT
THE, THE ENGINEER WILL HAVE TO GET INVOLVED AND, AND SEE IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANY REBAR IN THAT, ANY KEY PIECES OF STRUCTURAL REBAR THAT IS IN THAT SLAB THAT WILL NEED TO BE CUT.
AND HOPEFULLY WE AVOID THAT HAPPENING.
UM, BUT IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT ONE FOOT OFF AND IT'S ON, IT'S ONLY ONE FLOOR BOX.
SO I GUESS IT WOULD KIND OF DEPEND ON WHERE, WHAT THAT SPACE IS USED FOR AND IF IT'S IN ALL
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IN ONE AREA OR NOT, IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY.IT, IT, IT, IT DOES HAPPEN QUITE, QUITE OFTEN.
UM, IT'S JUST THAT IT'S A STRUCTURAL FLOOR SLAB THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON THIS PROJECT, BUT, UM, I HAVE NO REASON TO THINK THAT IT'LL BE AN ISSUE AT THIS POINT.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE KEEPING ON THAT RADAR.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ACTION NEEDED ON THIS 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME ACTION COMING UP ON SEVEN.
UH, SO I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO AGENDA
[6. Discuss/Act on the Sheriff’s remodel project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]
ITEM SIX, DISCUSS AN ACT ON THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.SO I KNOW THIS ISN'T YOU GUYS.
SO YEAH, THE, UM, SAY, SAY THE MAGIC WORDS.
UH, ARE WE AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE SAYING ON BUDGET AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE
UH, THERE ISN'T MUCH OF AN UPDATE AT THIS POINT.
WE'RE JUST COORDINATING WEEKLY, UH, AND PLANNING AND PREPARATION FOR THE PROJECT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
[7. Discuss/Act on approving Proposed Change Orders No. 14 through 17 to agreement with Hill & Wilkinson Construction for the Rockwall County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING PROPOSED CHANGE ORDERS 14 THROUGH 17 TO AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ROCKWELL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.COMMISSIONER STACY, SO YOU'VE, YOU'VE SEEN THESE, THEY WERE IN THE PACKET.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAD, UM, ANY DIRECT QUESTIONS, UM, FOR THEM.
UH, BUT, UM, UH, I'M JUST, OKAY, SO, SO HEARING NONE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CHANGE ORDERS NUMBER 14, 15, 16, AND 17 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ROCKWALL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.
I WILL SECOND IT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IS THERE FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE? THANK YOU.
[19. EXECUTIVE SESSION:]
BRINGS US TO WHERE ARE WE? I WAS WONDERING.ALL RIGHT, SO I, I THINK, THINK WHAT I'M GONNA DO NOW COURT IS TAKE US TO EXECUTIVE SESSION SO WE CAN WRAP THOSE THINGS UP AND THEN WE'LL COME UP AND, AND GO BACK TO, TO, UH, 11.
SO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ROCKWALL COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURT, DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS LISTED IN THIS AGENDA.
ITEM IN THE ORDER DEEMED APPROPRIATE AS AUTHORIZED BY CHAPTER 5 5 1 OPEN MEETING, SUB CHAPTER D TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF ITS ATTORNEY.
WE WILL BE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON PERSONNEL MATTERS, DISCUSSION REGARDING BUDGET TRANSFERS AND PERSONNEL CONSIDERATION FOR COUNTY ENGINEERING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AND UNDER ADVICE AT COUNCIL, DISCUSS LEGAL RULING AND APPEAL REGARDING ELECTION LAWSUIT AND DISCUSSION REGARDING BUDGET TRANSFERS AND PERSONNEL CONSIDERATION FOR COUNTY ENGINEERING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AND AT 10 0 2, WE ARE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[20. RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION]
AT 1155, WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 5 5 1, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.001.THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION TO TAKE ANY ACTION NECESSARY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALL RIGHT, SO I AM GOING TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION.
UM, I'M GONNA START IN THE ORDER OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO I AM GOING TO MOVE THAT WE APPOINT, UM, COMMISSIONER LAUREN LICHTY AND COMMISSIONER DANA M**K, ALONG WITH HR TO WRITE A JOB DESCRIPTION AND ADVERTISE FOR THE HIRING OF A CIVIL ENGINEER OUT OF THE ENGINEERING SERVICES BUDGET.
LINE ITEM FOR THE AUDITOR, THAT WOULD BE 0 0 1 400 DASH 4 0 8.
WE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.
GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE.
AND THE NEXT MOTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT WE MOVE TO FILE AN APPEAL AND AUTHORIZE ANDY TAYLOR AS OUR ATTORNEY OUT OF THE BUDGET.
LINE ITEM 0 0 1 400 DASH 4 0 9.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
SO THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 11.
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BUT SINCE WE ARE AT 1157, WE ARE GONNA TAKE A ONE HOUR BREAK FOR LUNCH, AND WE WILL BE BACK HERE AT ONE O'CLOCK.[11. Discussion of the remodel of the Historic Courthouse, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]
ONE O'CLOCK.WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE AND WE ARE ON AGENDA.
ITEM NUMBER 11, DISCUSSION OF THE REMODEL OF THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.
COMMISSIONER STACY IS AT THE PODIUM.
AND I'M GOING TO REMAIN AT THE PODIUM FOR THIS.
SO, UM, QUICKLY, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ONLY, UM, MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET SOME INPUT, UM, AND THEN BOBBY, ALANA AND I ARE ON THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT KIND OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF OUR IDEA TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS IN ABOUT A MONTH, DEPENDING UPON THE WORKFLOW OF THE COURT AND, AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
SO I'M PRESENTING THIS, UH, THESE ARE MY IDEAS.
SO IF, IF THEY'RE A GOOD IDEA AND SOMEONE WANTS TO OWN IT, THEY CAN.
IF IT'S A BAD IDEA, IT WAS MY IDEA.
UM, SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH AND, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SEVERAL DECISIONS IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AND ESPECIALLY AT THE BUDGET.
SO I JUST WANNA START A CONVERSATION.
SO WE HAVE THIS BUILDING, THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.
WE HAVE WHITMORE AND WE HAVE THE DA EXPANSION.
THOSE ARE THE RESULTS OF THE ANNEX BUILDING.
WE HAVE, UM, PEOPLE MOVING OUTTA WHITMORE.
UM, WE HAVE THE AUDITOR MOVING OUT OF THE YELLOW JACKET COURTHOUSE AND INTO THE ANNEX BUILDING AND THE DA'S EXPANSION.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WHITMORE'S GONNA LOOK LIKE UNLESS WE MAKE A DECISION ON WHO'S COMING HERE AND WHO ISN'T COMING HERE, IF ANYONE COMES HERE AT ALL.
SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT STARTS.
UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE WHITMORE BUILDING UNTIL WE MAKE FIRM DECISIONS ON WHERE EVERYONE IS GOING TO RESIDE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
UM, WE DO KNOW THAT THE DA'S EXPANSION NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
UM, SO WE'LL NEED TO BE PLANNING FOR THAT.
UM, THAT'S A LITTLE SIMPLER 'CAUSE WE KNOW THE SPACE AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE SOME SORT OF IDEA OF FUNDING IT AND, AND GETTING THAT PART FIGURED OUT.
SO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE COMES DOWN TO WHO'S GONNA BE HERE WITH US, UM, AND WHAT DO WE WANNA DO WITH SOME OF THE CURRENT SPACES.
SO I'M GONNA START WITH THE ELEVATOR ROOM.
I, THIS IS KIND OF THE LAYOUT OF THE ELEVATOR ROOM, AND THIS IS ONE IDEA THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO TO CREATE A WORKSPACE.
NOT SAYING, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING WE WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO BE LIKE, HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS CAN WE MOVE INTO THIS BUILDING? WE'VE GOTTA START THINKING ABOUT HOW MANY OFFICE SPACES CAN WE PROVIDE IN THIS BUILDING? SO THIS IS AN IDEA.
UM, IT WOULD STILL GIVE CLEARANCE TO THE ELEVATOR.
UM, IT WOULD BE, UH, MORE DONE WITH REMOVABLE WALLS, WHICH IS WHAT THE HISTORIC COMMISSION WOULD PREFER US TO DO.
YOU HAVE ANOTHER IDEA THAT KIND OF COMES FROM THE CONCEPT OF HAVING A, UH, A MAIL ROOM, WHICH WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE.
UM, THAT COULD BECOME JUST A STORE CLOSET FOR COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
UM, BUT YOU'RE BASICALLY DOING THE SAME THING.
YOU'RE JUST GIVING A LITTLE BIT MORE POTENTIAL WORKSPACE FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL.
AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN THE CLOSET OF THE ELEVATOR ROOM, THAT IS A GIANT CLOSET GIANT.
SO, UM, IT IS CONCEIVABLY POSSIBLE THAT THE ELEVATOR ROOM COULD BE CONVERTED INTO AN OFFICE.
THAT'S MY ONLY POINT OF THESE SLIDES.
NOT THAT WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE.
UM, NOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MOVE COMMISSIONER LICHTY AND MYSELF TO THE SAME FLOOR AS ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE COMMISSIONER THREE AND FOUR.
CONCEPTUALLY, THIS WOULD BE IN THE OLD TREASURER'S OFFICE OR IN THE OLD STATE REP'S OFFICE, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU, UH, WANNA LOOK AT THAT SPACE.
WE COULD BUILD A WALL IN BETWEEN AND BUILD TWO FAIRLY DECENT SIZED OFFICES, UM, AND HAVE JUST A LITTLE WALKWAY.
SO IT'S KIND OF, YOU WOULD JUST KIND OF COME THROUGH THE DOOR AND YOU JUST HAVE TWO OPENING DOORS.
THE OTHER IDEA IS TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER OFFICES AND THEN, AND THEN A SMALL MEETING ROOM.
UM, WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS IDEA IS THAT, UM, IT WOULD ALLOW US COMMISSIONERS, THE FOUR COMMISSIONERS, 'CAUSE THE JUDGE BASICALLY HAS A MEETING ROOM IN HIS OFFICE, BUT IT'LL ALLOW THE FOUR OF US COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE A ROOM DEDICATED
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TO US WHERE WE COULD GET A SCHEDULE, WE COULD HAVE A CALENDAR, AND THEN WE COULD KIND OF MANAGE THAT.IT COULD PROBABLY HOLD ABOUT SIX PEOPLE, SEVEN PEOPLE.
SO ONE DECISION WOULD BE, DO WE WANT TO MOVE COMMISSIONER THREE AND FOUR DOWNSTAIRS? IS THAT A DESIRE OF THE COURT? AND KIND OF WHICH LAYOUT MAKES SENSE? THEY BOTH PRETTY WELL WORK, IN MY OPINION.
THESE OFFICES ARE A LITTLE SMALLER.
THEY'RE MORE ABOUT 11 BY 11, UM, WHICH I THINK IS PLENTY OF SPACE.
BUT IT, THEY WOULD BE THE TWO SMALLER OF THE, UH, FOUR OFFICES FOR COMMISSIONERS.
UM, BUT IT WILL ALLOW US A MEETING ROOM.
AGAIN, I'M JUST OFFERING IDEAS.
UM, THEN, THEN, DO WE HAVE ANY DESIRE TO MOVE HR INTO THIS BUILDING? UM, KAMI IS SUPER EXCITED ABOUT WORKING IN A BASEMENT.
UM, ONE OF THE IDEAS, UH, THAT WE COULD DO IS PRETTY MUCH KIND OF CREATE A, A WORKFLOW AREA WITH A DIRECTOR AND A MANAGER OFFICES CREATED ON BOTH SIDES OF IT.
UM, AND THAT WOULD KIND OF, FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, CREATE AN HR ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE COULD BE EXPANSION OR NO EXPANSION.
UM, BUT IN THE END, A FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE EXPANSION.
'CAUSE WE COULD JUST ADD A CUBICLE AND WE WOULDN'T BE WITH SET FIRM OFFICES.
UM, WE WOULD JUST HAVE A, A DIRECTOR AND A MANAGER.
SO, UM, CLEARLY IF, UH, COMMISSIONER THREE AND FOUR WERE TO LEAVE, THAT WOULD BE TWO ROOMS UPSTAIRS THAT WOULD BECOME EMPTY.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO HAVE WHAT OFFICE KIM SUITE IS CURRENTLY IN NOW, UM, WOULD BE TECHNICALLY EMPTY.
THAT THE KIM SUITE OFFICE IS GONNA HAPPEN REGARDLESS, RIGHT.
AND, AND ALL OF THAT SPACE IN THE BASEMENT WOULD, WOULD BE VACATED? YEAH.
THAT'S ALREADY A DECISION THAT'S BEEN MADE.
THAT IS A DECISION THAT HAS BEEN MADE.
SO THE TAX ASSESSOR'S CURRENT OFFICE, WE COULD POTENTIALLY SET UP AS AN HR CONFERENCE ROOM.
UM, HR WOULD BE IN NEED OF SOME SORT OF DEDICATED CONFERENCE ROOM FOR NEW HIRES AND FOR DIFFERENT TRAININGS.
UM, THE OTHER PROBLEM IS, IS THAT, UH, POTENTIAL FLOODING IN THE BASEMENT, UM, HR HAS A LOT OF FILES THAT WOULD BE GOING IN OUR PENTHOUSE.
UM, I WOULD BE WANTING US TO LOOK IN THE NEXT BUDGET ABOUT, UM, TAKING A BUNCH OF OLD PERSONNEL FILES AND MAKING 'EM ELECTRONIC.
UM, AND THAT A WAY THAT WOULD REDUCE THE NEED OF THOSE PAPERS.
UM, AND THEN IT WOULD JUST BE CURRENT FILES THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE PAPER, UM, OR MAYBE EVEN A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO ALWAYS BE ELECTRONIC.
BUT THERE IS ALWAYS THE POTENTIAL OF FLOODING IN THE BASEMENT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE WINDOWS.
UM, THERE IS NO GENERATOR IN THIS BUILDING.
SO WHEN ALL THE POWER IS OUT, THIS BUILDING JUST SITS POWERLESS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUMP.
I BELIEVE BARRY SAID THAT YOU HAD SOMEONE HERE LAST TIME BASICALLY GOING WINDOW TO WINDOW IN THE RAIN, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS BEING SUMP OUT.
BUT THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE ONE DANGER OF PUTTING HR AND ALL THEIR FILES AND EVERYTHING IN THE BASEMENT.
IT JUST NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD PROBABLY WANT ANY PERMANENT FILES THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE FOURTH FLOOR, WHICH WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DISJOINTED FOR THEM.
UM, SO IN SUMMARY, I WANTED TO START A CONVERSATION AND GET SOME INPUT FROM THE COURT ON THOUGHTS.
UM, AND THEN MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO PUT THIS BACK ON THE COURT IN FEBRUARY FOR US TO, TO HAVE A MORE ADVANCED DISCUSSION.
AND THEN, UM, WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER ALANA AND I BEING THE BUILDING'S GROUNDS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS COMMITTEE, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK AND THEN KIND OF GET STARTED ON TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR THIS BUILDING AND POTENTIALLY A PLAN FOR WHITMORE SO THAT WE COULD START LOOKING AT BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS.
WE, WE, I DIDN'T WANT TO GO OUT FOR BIDS ON PROJECTS THAT COULD BE VOTED DOWN.
IT DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
BUT IF WE HAD SOME SORT OF DIRECTION, WE COULD START BUILDING, UM, BUDGET, BUDGET, UH, CONCERNS AND, AND GETTING, UM, UH, STUFF TOGETHER.
SO KIND OF WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GO SIT BACK IN MY SEAT UNLESS Y'ALL WANT TO SEE ANYTHING ELSE ON HERE.
IT WAS IN THE BACKUP, SO HOPEFULLY Y'ALL ALL HAD AT LEAST HAD A, HAD A TIME TO, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS SOME COMMENTS AND, AND JUST SOME IDEA OF WHAT DIRECTION, UM, FOLKS ARE THINKING RIGHT NOW.
SO GIVE ME A SECOND AND I'LL SIT DOWN.
SO I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU WHILE YOU'RE, UH, WORKING YOUR WAY BACK TO YOUR SEAT, UH, WE, WE NEED TO ALLOW FOR SECURITY HERE, UH, AS WELL.
AND SOMETHING THAT THE SHERIFF HAS OFFERED THE LAST TWO BUDGET CYCLES.
UH, AND WE'VE OPTED TO SPEND THAT MONEY ELSEWHERE, BUT
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WE'RE, WE'RE AT THE POINT TO WHERE IT'S, IT'S TIME THAT, THAT WE HAVE A DEPUTY HERE, UH, AND THEY'LL NEED THE OFFICE SOMEWHERE.AND I THINK, UM, KIM SWEET'S OFFICE, SINCE IT'S ALREADY SET UP WITH THE, UH, WITH THE VIDEO EQUIPMENT, SURVEILLANCE EQUIPMENT, THAT, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR ME.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE EASIEST FIT FOR SECURITY.
SO IT'S THE SECURITY HE WOULD JUST BE ON ON.
HAVE, HAVE, HAVE A DEPUTY HERE, BUT NOT WHERE PEOPLE, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO COME IN ONE DOOR.
WE, WE, WE JUST NEED SECURITY ON SITE.
RIGHT NOW, SECURITY HAS TO COME FROM EITHER SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR, OR THE MAIN, MAIN COURTROOM.
UM, THE, THE OTHER THING, AND JUST BRIEFLY, THE, UH, GENERATORS, UH, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ARE APPLYING FOR GRANTS FOR A GENERATOR FOR HERE AND WHITMORE NOW, IT, IT'S NOT ZERO COST.
AND THEY'RE GONNA BRING THAT TO THE COURT PROBABLY IN FEBRUARY.
UM, UH, WE, WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION OF CAN THEY APPLY FOR IT? AND I SAID, YES, APPLY FOR IT.
BRING IT, BRING IT TO THE COURT.
UM, SO, UH, AND THE, THE ONLY OTHER THING I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE SMALLER OFFICES AND THE CONFERENCE ROOM FOR THE COMMISSIONERS.
UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'RE MISSING.
UH, AND SPEAKING OF MISSING, WE, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE FOURTH FLOOR HERE.
UH, IS NOW THE TIME TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OR DO WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION LATER? 'CAUSE CLEARLY THE FOURTH FLOOR IS NOT GOING TO BE, UH, OFFICES.
UM, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS MY, MY IDEA OF, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BECOME A MUSEUM.
I I WOULD HOPE THAT WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING THIS PROJECT, THAT WE'RE TALKING, UM, ABOUT PRESERVING OUR HISTORY SOMEHOW WITHIN IT.
AND, AND THE FOURTH FLOOR IS THE PLACE TO DO THAT, IN MY OPINION.
I, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT FOR SURE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF MY, MY, MY IDEAS.
UH, THEN, THEN WE HAVE A DECISION WHAT TO DO WITH THE EXISTING COMMISSIONER THREE AND FOUR'S OFFICES.
UM, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT IT'S NICE TO HAVE OPTIONS.
RIGHT? AND ACTUALLY THIS, THIS SPACE RIGHT HERE BEHIND US, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT USING IT FOR EXECUTIVE ANYMORE.
SO THERE'S THAT AS WELL AS THE SPACE.
THEY'RE STORING TABLES AND CHAIRS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT WE STILL WANT TO USE IT FOR, BUT COULD BE OTHER, OTHER IDEAS.
AND, AND THEN TO ANSWER ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'D ASKED, COMMISSIONER STACY, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HR COME HERE AND, AND I'VE KIND OF WAFFLED BACK AND FORTH ABOUT HR STAYS THERE.
AND, AND WE JUST HAVE CAMMIE COME HERE SERVING HER TRUE FUNCTION AS THE ADMIN OF THE COUNTY, BUT HAVING HER BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE HR HERE.
'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE PLUS CAMMIE.
UH, THAT, THAT, AND, AND I'M NOT MARRIED TO THAT.
I COULD BE TALKED OUTTA THAT, BUT AS WE SIT HERE RIGHT NOW, I'D, I'D LIKE TO SEE HR HERE AS WELL.
SO THAT, THAT'S MY RAMBLING THOUGHTS AND NO ORDER OF SIGNIFICANCE.
UM, HOW MANY SPACES DOES HR NEED? HOW MUCH SPOT SPACE DO NEED? THREE OFFICES, A HALL ROOM AND A CONFERENCE ROOM.
SO IS IT LIKE KIM SUITE IS WHERE THE NOT HER PARTICULAR OFFICE, WHICH I THINK IS UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK SECURITY WOULD BE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT THAT AREA WHERE THE FOLKS GIVE YOU YOUR REGISTRATION AND THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD WORK, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IT, IT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH FOR THE OFFICE.
CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME ON HERE? SORRY.
I WAS THINKING THAT COULD BE HEARD.
LIKE I MENTIONED, UH, HR, WE WOULD NEED THREE OFFICES, A CONFERENCE ROOM AND A FILE ROOM.
IF WE GO ELECTRONIC, IT WOULD BE SMALLER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
'CAUSE WE COULD CERTAINLY DIGITIZE THE, THE OLD PERSONNEL FILES.
BUT I HAVE TO KEEP THOSE 95 PLUS YEARS, WHETHER ELECTRONIC OR PAPER.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, THE WAY IT'S DRAWN NOW, UM, WE COULD FIT ME THE HR MANAGER AND THE HR ASSISTANT WITH A, WITH A TABLE AND A COPIER IN THAT SPACE THAT, THAT YOU HAVE DRAWN OUT.
UM, THE FILES ARE THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING, DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH ROOM TO GROW? NO.
UH, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING PERSONNEL WHILE OVER TIME IT'LL GROW.
MAYBE NOT RAPIDLY, BUT PERSONNEL WISE, I TECHNICALLY, THE GENERAL RULE OF THUMB
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IS ONE HR REPRESENTATIVE PER 100 EMPLOYEES.BUT WE ARE, WE'RE DOING WELL RIGHT NOW.
I CAN'T, I DON'T FORESEE THAT I'LL BE ASKING TO ADD A PERSON.
I DON'T DON'T, I'M NOT WRITING THIS IN BLOOD
BUT IF YOU DID GROW, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT ROOM FOR THE NEW OFFICE UNLESS YOU MOVED ME OUT.
AND WHERE YOU ARE NOW, IF YOU STAYED THERE, 'CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PEOPLE COMING OUTTA THERE, ISN'T THAT RIGHT? GOING TO THE ANNEX FROM WHITMORE? YES.
SO WHERE YOU ARE NOW WOULD ALLOW GROWTH IN THE FUTURE.
'CAUSE YES, THERE'S OPEN SPACE AND ALSO VETERAN SERVICES.
UM, HER OFFICE IS RIGHT THERE NEXT TO OUR SUITE.
SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GROW WITHIN THE VICINITY THAT WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, AND IS THE ANNEX IS FULL RIGHT, JOHN? UM, BASICALLY, YES.
THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF GROWTH POTENTIAL, UM, WITH A, THERE'S A BIG STORE ROOM, UM, THAT, THAT THERE IS GROWTH POTENTIAL.
BUT THE ANNEX IS VIRTUALLY FULL WITH DEPARTMENTS, BUT EACH DEPARTMENT HAS THE ABILITY TO GROW WITHIN THEIR SPACE.
UM, SO I, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS.
I KIND LIKE BEING UP HERE, SO DON'T MO MOVE ME DOWN THERE TO MAKE ME HAPPY.
BECAUSE I I'M FINE BACK THERE.
YOU WILL BE TRAPPED IN THERE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE MULTIPLE WEDDINGS IN THERE.
BUT I'LL BE TEARY EYED ALL THE TIME.
'CAUSE I'LL BE SO HAPPY FOR THOSE COUPLES.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I WILL BE AS WELL
I, I THINK IT'S, I, I THINK IT'S NICE.
UM, BUT I ALSO THINK IT MAKES AT LEAST SOME LOGICAL SENSE TO HAVE THE FIVE OF US ON THE SAME FLOOR.
I, I, I THINK IT DOES MAKE SENSE.
I THINK IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO THE PUBLIC AND IT KINDA LOOKS GOOD.
BUT TO QUOTE ONE OF MY COMMISSIONERS HERE WHO I'LL GIVE THE CREDIT TO, WE CAN'T TALK TOGETHER ANYWAY WHILE WE'RE DOWN THERE.
SO
UM, AND THE LAST THING I'D SAY ABOUT THE JAIL, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THAT AS A MUSEUM, BUT THAT'S A, AS MUCH AS I LIKE IT, IT'S A REALLY BIG DECISION BECAUSE THAT MEANS YOU GOTTA FIGURE OUT A WAY TO STAFF IT AND GET PEOPLE UP AND DOWN.
AND, UH, WE GOT THAT FOUNDATION HAS A MUSEUM RIGHT NOW, NOT THE COMMISSION, THE FOUNDATION.
AND UH, IT'S A NEAT AREA UP THERE.
PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO GO SEE IT.
SO MAYBE IF WE COULD INCORPORATE IT INTO A HISTORIC, UH, TRAIL WALK OR SOMETHING THROUGH ROCK WALL, IT WOULD WORK WELL.
BUT IT'S JUST A FIGURING OUT HOW TO STAFF IT AND HAVE SOMEBODY UP THERE AS A, SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
SO I, I, UH, HAD HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SWEARING IN THE OFFICERS AND THE TRUSTEES FOR THE HISTORICAL FOUNDATION, UM, SUNDAY.
AND THEY, THEY WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, FURNITURE AND THINGS AND ITEMS AND ARTIFACTS, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE FOR 'EM.
UH, AND IT WAS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO SIT THERE AND JUST GO, OKAY, OKAY, OKAY.
IT'S LIKE I, I MAY HAVE A PLACE, I MAY HAVE A PLACE.
SO I THINK THEY WOULD COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN THEIR MOUTHS, BUT IF, IF WE TELL 'EM, HEY, WE'RE DOING A MUSEUM UP HERE, I, I THINK THEY WOULD TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT AND, AND STAFFING AND, AND UPKEEP.
I, I THINK WE COULD, I THINK WE COULD COUNT ON THEM.
WELL, I'M GOING TO SECOND AND KIND OF, UM, GO ALONG WITH WHAT BOBBY TALKED ABOUT.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US REALLY THINK ABOUT, AND IT IS A BIG, IT, IT IS A BIG, OR, YOU KNOW, A BIG PROJECT, BUT HISTORIC COURTHOUSES, AND I'M GONNA SPEAK SPECIFICALLY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THEY ARE REALLY WIDELY RECOGNIZED AS, AS A, AS A, AS A CENTERPIECE OF COMMUNITIES.
AND THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE OF ITS HISTORY, YOU KNOW, THE, AND BEING REBUILT SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES FOR BURNING DOWN AND SO FORTH.
BUT THERE'S SUCH A LOT OF, OF HISTORY IN THE, IN THIS COURTHOUSE.
AND I WOULD LOVE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING THE TIME NOW AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME EMPTY SPACE TO REALLY KIND OF DIG DOWN AND LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF GRANTS COULD WE APPLY FOR, FOR THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION OF THIS COURTHOUSE.
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AND THEN AS THAT, AS THAT, AS THAT I GUESS, YOU KNOW, BEGINS TO GROW LEGS, WE COULD THEN THINK ABOUT HOW WOULD THE OFFICE SPACE WORK? AND, AND I AGREE, WE CAN'T TALK TO, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN TWO OF US, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME.BUT IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN SO MUCH OF A BLESSING FOR ME THAT WHEN I WORK HERE, I LEAVE, TYPICALLY I LEAVE MY OFFICE OPEN AND I GET TO MEET SO MANY PEOPLE THAT, SO IT WOULD BE A, IT WOULD BE A PLUS FOR YOU AND COMMISSIONER STACEY TO BE DOWNSTAIRS BECAUSE YOU'VE STARTED OPENING YOUR DOOR.
AND, UM, AND I THINK IT'S, I MEAN, I HAVE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME THAT COME IN AND I LEARN THINGS.
THEY'LL COME IN AND ASK ME, WHERE WILL I GO DO THIS? AND I'M HAVING TO GO, WELL, I'M NOT REALLY SURE.
BUT, BUT IT REALLY HELPS THE CUSTOMER SERVICE SIDE.
BUT, BUT BACK TO, UM, THE, THE HISTORIC, I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT, UM, RESTORING THIS AND LOOKING AT THE, AND, AND DEFINITELY MAKING IT AT OFFICES.
'CAUSE IT'S BEEN OFFICES FOREVER.
SO, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE, THE, THE, THE ELEVATOR ROOM, YOU KNOW, THE COUPLE OF THOSE, IF THERE WAS A WAY WE COULD MAKE THAT ELEVATOR ROOM AS A, AS A CONFERENCE ROOM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT WOULD ENABLE YOU TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT LARGER OFFICES.
I THINK 11 BY 11 FOR, IF THAT'S ABOUT THE SIZE, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT FOR YOU AND COMMISSIONER, THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO SMALL.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS THINKING, DON'T TAKE THAT AWAY.
LET'S MAYBE LOOK AT MAYBE REPURPOSING THE ELEVATOR ROOM, BUT PUT A DOOR ON IT.
I MEAN, I HATE TO HAVE MEETINGS IN THERE WHEN PEOPLE ARE WAITING OUT IN THE HALLWAY TO GET MARRIED AND ALL OF THAT.
SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR A GENERATOR BECAUSE I DO THINK THE FLOODING COULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT RAINS.
I TALKED A LITTLE BIT WITH BARRY AND I KNOW THAT, UM, KIM SWEET HAS SHARED WITH ME THE, THE FLOODING SITUATION DOWNSTAIRS.
WELL, AND WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A, UH, CONTINUANCE OF GOVERNMENT FUNCTION.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.
I, I, I'D LOVE TO SEE YOU GUYS DOWNSTAIRS WITH, AND ALL OF US BE TOGETHER ON ONE FLOOR.
I'D LOVE TO SEE US, US DO SOMETHING WITH THAT FOURTH FLOOR THAT, THAT JAIL, THAT'S A, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE RE FROM A RESTOR IT SOME WAY OF WHAT IT USED TO BE LIKE.
SO, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO, I THINK WE DO.
AND AS FAR AS THE HR DEPARTMENT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE CAMMIE OVER HERE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE ROLE SHE PLAYS, WHATNOT, YOU KNOW, FROM A, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, FRANK.
BUT IT'S A LOT TO LOT TO THINK ABOUT AND TRY TO GET PUT TOGETHER BEFORE, SOMETIME IN FEBRUARY.
WELL, WELL, FEBRUARY WOULDN'T BE VOTES.
FEBRUARY WOULD JUST BE A MORE CONSTRUCTIVE DISCUSSION.
IT'S, I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS VERY PRELIMINARY IDEAS, WE NEED TO START TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT IDEAS ARE AND THEN MAYBE GIVING SOME DIRECTION TO, UH, TO BARRY TO START GETTING SOME QUOTES ON SOME THINGS.
BUT I KNOW RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF, UH, HEY, IT IS KIND OF AN OPEN, AN OPEN-ENDED CANVAS.
AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO START THE CONVERSATION AS FAR AS HOW, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DEPTH AND THEN WHERE ARE WE GONNA PUT OUR, UH, PIO UM, UH, IN, IN THIS PROCESS.
AND, UH, SO THAT'S JUST WHEN WE START THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE, AS QUICKLY AS THE TAX ASSESSOR LEAVES, WHEN HR MOVES IN, THE BUILDING BECOMES ALMOST IMMEDIATELY FULL.
I DO LIKE THE ELEVATOR ROOM BEING TURNED INTO A CONFERENCE ROOM, AN ACTUAL CONFERENCE ROOM
UM, WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS HR NOT HAVING THEIR OWN ROOM THAT THEY'RE IN CONTROL OF FOR NEW HIRES.
AND, AND, AND IF AN EMPLOYEE SHOWS UP WITH A COMPLAINT OUT OF NOWHERE AND THEY'RE HERE, THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.
THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA TROT UPSTAIRS AND ASK THE, CAN Y'ALL CLEAR OUT I NEED TO TALK TO THIS PERSON? THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T REALLY WORK WELL EITHER.
SO I, I THINK THAT'S A, A, A MAJOR CONCERN WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL SECURITY.
UM, AND WHERE WE WOULD WANT TO PUT THAT.
I TEND TO THINK POTENTIALLY IN HERE WOULD BE A, A SPOT WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF HARDWARE.
UM, WE WOULD WANT THE, UH, SECURITY SE SECURING, NOT NECESSARILY SITTING.
UM, SO HAVING THE CAMERAS AND HAVING A HOME BASE, BUT BEING ABLE TO, TO WALK AROUND THE BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, I'VE NEVER SET UP A SECURITY DETAIL OF A BUILDING, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE, UM, IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY.
BUT I I I, I JUST THINK THAT IF WE MOVE HR DOWNSTAIRS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THEM ALL OF THAT SPACE.
BECAUSE THE MORE I THINK ABOUT WHAT
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THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT WOULD GIVE THEM THE POTENTIAL SAME GROWTH IF THEY HAD.BECAUSE THEN EVEN IF WE REWORKED IT AND PUT CAMMIE IN, WHAT IS KIM SWEET'S OFFICE? AND THEN HAD ONE OF THOSE BECOME A CONFERENCE ROOM THAT STILL WORKS.
IT'S JUST THAT SOMEHOW JUST GIVING THE WHOLE BASEMENT OVER MAKES SENSE FOR THEIR NEEDS AND WHAT, WHAT WE COULD SEE FOR THEIR FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
UM, ONE OR TWO PEOPLE AT FULL BUILD OUT.
WE NEED TO BE AT LEAST THINKING, CAN WE EVEN PUT THEM IN THERE? UM, I THINK NEEDS TO BE A, SOMETHING THAT WE THINK ABOUT RATHER THAN LAND LOCKING THEM IN, THEN IN 10 YEARS, WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THEM AGAIN.
I, I THINK I AGREE HR ALL, AND OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL HAVE INPUT KENNY
I THINK SECURITY UP HERE MAKES SENSE.
UM, BUT WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME TO TALK THROUGH THAT, I GUESS.
THE OFFICE FOR THE, FOR THE DEPUTY.
I WOULD THINK, I KIND OF AGREE WITH SOMEBODY WHO SAID EARLIER THAT IT WOULD, THE DOWNSTAIRS WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
'CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, BEING UP HERE NOW FOR A MONTH, YOU'RE ISOLATED.
IT'S QUIET AND I DON'T, YOU DON'T REALLY GET A SENSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BUILDING.
WHEREAS I THINK AT A LOWER FLOOR, YOU GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR SECURITY.
AND I WOULD THINK, AGAIN, JUST IF BEFORE WE DECIDE TO MOVE HR, I I, I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE ROOM FOR THEM TO GROW.
BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'LL BE MOVING THEM AND THEN MOVING THEM.
WELL I THINK THAT'S GIVEN US A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF INPUT TO COME BACK WITH A LITTLE BIT SMALLER TARGET AND THEN WE'LL START, START NARROWING THE TARGET.
SO UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING
[12. Discuss/Act on approving a two-year contract with the Texas Workforce Commission for providing online access to their agency data effective February 1, 2025, and all related issues; (Judge New)]
ELSE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION FOR PROVIDING ONLINE ACCESS TO THEIR AGENCY DATA EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 1ST, 2025.
THIS IS A CONTRACT, $1,500 A YEAR.
WE'RE AGREEING TO A TWO YEAR CONTRACT, A TOTAL OF $3,000 TO UH, ESSENTIALLY ALLOW OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO HAVE ACCESS TO WAGES AND DATA INFORMATION.
UM, THIS IS JUST A CONTRACT, SO IT WAS ALREADY PUT INTO THE BUDGET FOR THAT.
THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US FOR FY 25.
UM, SO YEAH, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE ODDBALLS THAT, THAT THE EXPIRATION DATE DOESN'T LINE UP WHEN IT SHOULD.
AND, UM, SO IS THIS A CONTRACT WE'VE ALREADY GOT IN PLACE? WE, WE DO HAVE IT IN PLACE.
IT EXPIRES IF WE DON'T RENEW IT.
JUST, YEAH, IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR A LONG TIME.
QUESTION JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHO ADMINISTERS IT? IS THIS, THE DA'S OFFICE DOES ALL THIS STUFF? 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF REPORTING AND STUFF YOU HAVE TO DO UNDER THIS CONTRACT.
AND WHO ARE, IS THE DA'S OFFICE RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING IT? SO, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING THE CONTRACT.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF HR USED IT AS WELL.
UH, WHAT WE USE IT FOR IS OUR INVESTIGATORS AS THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE, UM, THEY USE THIS AS A TOOL, UH, TO SORT OF TRACK DOWN PEOPLE WHO ARE OTHERWISE HARD TO FIND.
SO I I, I ASSUME IF WE'RE THE ONLY ONE USING IT, THEN WE'VE BEEN ADMINISTERING IT.
BUT THAT WOULD BE STACY, UH RIGHT.
I CAN CERTAINLY FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU.
I, I JUST, WHEN I READ THE CONTRACT, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, LIKE YOU GOT REPORT INFO TO THE TWC ALL THE TIME ON EVERYTHING YOU'RE ASKING FOR, AND YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE DOCUMENT DESTRUCTION DEADLINES AND YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU MEET THOSE.
AND I JUST, SO, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF SIMILAR REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR CI UHHUH
AND SO I, I DO KNOW THAT OUR INVESTIGATORS DO A LOT OF THE DATA KEEPING, UH, THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
AND, AND WE DON'T WANNA ASSUME, BUT I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THAT CONTRACT FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW.
AND I, I, I MEAN IT MAKES, WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT YOU DO AND AS YOU HAVE IT GREAT MM-HMM
BUT MAN, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS YOU GOTTA DO YEAH.
TO KEEP UP WITH THIS CONTRACTS MM-HMM
SO I WAS WONDERING WHO DOES, WHO'S DOING ALL THAT STUFF? IT'S SHOWING THAT THE POINT OF CONTACT IS SHERRY MARINO.
AND THEN IT ALSO HAS, AS A SECOND POINT OF CON AN ALTERNATE IS, UM, STACY BRAZE.
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SIGNED IT.AND THEN ALSO BRIAN CRENSHAW AS FAR AS DATA TECHNOLOGY CONTACT.
SO YEAH, SO THE CHIEF INVESTIGATOR, UH, IS USUALLY IN CHARGE OF, OF ADMINISTERING A, ANYTHING OF THIS NATURE MAKES SENSE FOR THE DA'S OFFICE.
AND THEN WORKING ALONG WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, UH, WE HELP THEM WITH WHAT REPORTS THEY NEED AND, AND YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A TWO YEAR CONTRACT FOR THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION AND THE FORUM PROVIDED FOR PROVIDING ONLINE ACCESS TO AGENCY TO THEIR AGENCY DATA EFFECTIVE AS OF FEBRUARY 1ST, 2025.
HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE.
[13. Discuss/Act on moving the regular scheduled Commissioners Court date of February 11, 2025, due to members of the court attending Rockwall County Days 2025 in Austin, Texas, and all related issues; (Judge New)]
BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 13, DISCUSS AN ACT ON MOVING THE REGULAR SCHEDULED COMMISSIONER'S COURT DATE OF FEBRUARY 11TH, 2025 DUE TO MEMBERS OF THE COURT ATTENDING ROCKWALL COUNTY DAYS 2025 IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.UH, SO WE'RE ALL GONNA BE IN AUSTIN.
UH, COMMISSIONER MICK'S GONNA BE AT THE CUC CONFERENCE.
THE REST OF US WILL BE AT ROCKWALL COUNTY DAYS.
UM, AND IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE BE AT ROCKWALL COUNTY DAYS AS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE JUST DISCUSSED, UM, UH, LEGISLATIVELY, WE, WE, WE'VE GOT TO PUSH A BOULDER UP THE HILL, SO, UH, WE GOTTA BE THERE PUSHING.
SO WE, WE AREN'T GONNA BE HERE ON FEBRUARY 11TH, SO IF EVERYBODY WILL LOOK AT THEIR CALENDARS, I ORIGINALLY SUGGESTED THURSDAY AND THEN I, I SPOKE WITH COMMISSIONER M**K AND SHE'S GONNA BE OUT THURSDAY AND SHE SAID THAT'S FINE.
AND THEN I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT MY SCHEDULE.
I'M GONNA BE OUT THURSDAY AS WELL.
UH, SO, UH, I'M GONNA BE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
WAS THE, WAS PART OF THE PURPOSE.
AND I'M JUST, I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER, UM, OUR CONVERSATION.
WAS IT 'CAUSE WE NEEDED TO APPROVE THE BUDGET, UM, FOR PAYROLL? WELL, WE, WE, WE GOTTA, UH, APPROVE ACCOUNTS, CLAIMS, PAYROLL.
UH, WE, WE'VE GOT, UH, COUNTY GOVERNMENT BUSINESS THAT THAT NEEDS DONE.
UM, MAYBE WE HAVE TO USE DO DOES, IS THAT STUFF AVAILABLE THE WEEK AND WEEK BEFORE THE STUFF WE HAVE TO APPROVE, WOULD IT BE AVAILABLE THE WEEK OF THE THIRD THROUGH THE SEVENTH? THAT, THAT IS A QUESTION FOR LISA.
I MEAN, I WAS CHECKING WHETHER THE 18TH WOULD WORK.
UM, BUT THAT PUTS 'EM BACK TO BACK WEEKS.
SO IF WE DID IT THE, THE THIRD THROUGH THE SEVENTH, IT WOULD BE JUST A MATTER OF DAYS.
THAT WOULD ALSO BE BACK TO BACK WEEKS.
IF WE GO DOWN THIS WEEK, THE NEXT WEEK.
SO THERE'S REALLY, YEAH, I, I WOULD, I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND YOU MOVING IT TO FEBRUARY 18TH.
18TH THE 18TH, WHICH IS THE FOLLOWING TU IT IS JUST THE ONE WEEK LATE OF THE TUESDAY.
AND, AND THAT DOESN'T, UH, CREATE ANY ISSUES THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO OVERCOME.
I'VE TEXTED MY OFFICE TO SEE, SO THEY MIGHT BE CHATTERING OKAY.
BUT, UH, AND, AND, UH, I KNOW MOVING DAVID PEAK'S NOT HERE.
WE CAN GET, WE CAN GET A LOT THROUGH.
UH, I WOULD JUST SAY IT'D PROBABLY BE BETTER FOR US TO PUSH IT BACK THAN TO PUSH IT FORWARD BECAUSE WE'RE INPUTTING NOW.
SO TO TRY TO DATE IT FOR THE FOURTH COULD BE PROBLEMATIC.
IS ANYBODY ELSE GOING TO THE VG YOUNG ON THE 18TH? ARE YOU REGISTERED FOR THAT? LAUREN? UH, FELICIA? AM I REGISTERED FOR THAT? I'M GONNA BE OUT ON MY CONFERENCE FROM THE 12TH THROUGH THE 14TH.
SO PHIL WON'T BE ANYBODY HERE TO FIX AN AGENDA IF YOU MOVE IT TO THE 18TH.
I, I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO THAT BOBBY 'CAUSE I GOT ALL THE CONTINUING EDUCATION HOURS I NEEDED ALREADY.
SO I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO IT UNLESS I SHOULD THEN I WILL.
I KNOW THAT I'M REGISTERED FOR IT, BUT I'M NOT, I'M PLANNING ON CANCELING.
WELL, I PICKED UP MYSELF ANYWAY, SO, SO LET, LET, LET'S TALK ABOUT IF WE WERE TO DO IT ON THE 18TH AND YOU'RE GONNA BE OUT 12, 13, AND 14.
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THERE, THERE A PROBLEM POSTING ON THE 11TH? IS THAT SEVEN, TWO HOURS BEFORE? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANY SHORTER.SO AS LONG AS WE DO 72, THERE'S NO HARM IN DOING 140 HOURS BEFORE.
AND, AND I WOULD SAY LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT THAT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT BRINGING SEVERAL THINGS BACK IN FEBRUARY.
LET, LET'S TRY TO MAKE THAT ONE AS BASIC PAYING BILLS, DOING PAYROLL, UH, JUST THE, THE MINIMUM AMOUNT WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THE COUNTY AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL PILE EVERYTHING ON, UH, THE YEAH.
SO I, UH, THERE IS A PROBLEM FOR US WITH THE GRANTS IF WE WAIT TILL THE 18TH.
SO, AND THE DEADLINE FOR THE BOTH COURTS WOULD BE THE SAME DAY.
SO COULD YOU DO IT ON THE 10TH? COULD YOU DO FEBRUARY 10TH, THE MONDAY BEFORE YOU ALL LEAVE FOR ROCKWELL COUNTY DAYS? YEAH, I, I HAVE A SCHEDULED OUT.
YEAH, I MEAN, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO OUT ON THE 13TH.
IS THAT WHAT WE I MEAN, WE HAVE ENOUGH TO HOLD A BASIC COURT ON THE 13TH.
YEAH, I'M GONNA BE OUT, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO, BUT YEAH, YOU THAT THAT'S RIGHT.
AND IF THERE'S NO HARM IN THAT, IF WE'RE WE'RE PAYING BILLS AND, AND JUST DOING, COULD WE JUST DO THAT AND YEAH.
IT SEEMS TO BE THE SIMPLEST SOLUTION.
I KNOW YOU GUYS THAT WORKS FOR ME TALKING ABOUT THE GENERATOR.
GRANT FOR THE GENERATOR, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME ON THAT AS WELL.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE, BUT IT, IT MAY NOT SURVIVE IF WE PUT IT TO THE 18TH.
THE 13TH IS THE DEADLINE FOR THAT GRANT APPLICATION.
JUST KNOWING, UM, I'M, I'M, YOU'RE OUT GONNA BE OUT AND, AND DANA'S OUT AND YOU GUYS CAN HANDLE IT.
WELL, LET'S, UH, AND ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? THE, THE 13TH? I CAN HAVE IT PREPARED AND POSTED BY THE 11TH.
UH, WELL, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE POSTED BY THE 10TH.
WELL, WE'LL HAVE IT BY THE 10TH.
WAIT, WOULD IT HAS TO BE POSTED BY THE 10TH? YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO BE TO GET OUR 72 HOURS.
WE'D HAVE TO HAVE IT POSTED BY THE 10TH.
WELL, BY THE 10TH, I MEAN, I'M GOOD.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, OKAY,
SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THE REGULAR SCHEDULED COMMISSIONER'S COURT FROM FEBRUARY 14TH, 2025 TO FEBRUARY 13TH, 2025, STARTING AT 9:00 AM THAT MORNING.
DID, DID YOU WANNA MOVE THE FEBRUARY 11TH COURT? YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
WHAT DID I JUST SAY? DISCUSSION? I DON'T KNOW.
YOU DIDN'T SAY FEBRUARY 11TH? YES, I, I AM MOVING THE FEBRUARY 11TH COURT TO THE 13TH.
I IS, IS MY CONVOLUTED MOTION.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
STACY, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.
[14. Discuss/act on approving the following Proclamation and Resolutions, and all related issues; (Judge New)]
ITEM NUMBER 14, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE FOLLOWING PROCLAMATIONS AND RESOLUTIONS IN ALL RELATED MATTERS.COMMISSIONERS, WE'VE, UH, EACH WORKED ON THESE, SO THERE'S KIND OF NO SURPRISES THERE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE AGREED ON IN OUR WORKSHOP.
SO, UM, UNLESS GENERAL COUNSEL INSTRUCTS ME OTHERWISE, I THINK WE CAN CLEAR ALL THESE IN ONE MOTION.
UH, ONE THING, UH, YES, I MADE FOUND SOME MISTAKES AND MADE SOME CHANGES TO ONE LAST NIGHT.
AND DID FELICIA CIRCULATE THAT TO EVERYBODY? SHE DID, YES.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.
IT'S NOT TO PULL ANYTHING OFF, BUT ON THE, UH, TEXAS STATE SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION, UM, I STILL AM IN FAVOR OF US LOOKING AT PASSING THAT.
I JUST WANT THE COURT TO KNOW THAT I'VE HAD SOME, UH, PRETTY, I WOULD JUST TO SAY VERY DETAILED CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CHAIR, UH, OF THAT COMMITTEE.
AND WE MIGHT NEED TO PASS ANOTHER RESOLUTION.
UM, I DON'T THINK THEY CONVOLUTE EACH OTHER.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHEN I'M PLANTING THE SEED WHEN I COME BACK WITH ANOTHER ONE.
I'LL, I'LL HAVE A FULL EXPLANATION, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK THIS ONE'S GONNA GET QUITE DONE WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE, BUT I, BUT I STILL WANNA PASS IT.
I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD RESOLUTION TO SEND TO OUR STATE REPS TO LET 'EM KNOW, HEY, PAY ATTENTION TO THIS, LOOK AT THIS.
BUT, UM, SOME THINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN
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DECIDED.SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO, UH, DO SOMETHING ELSE.
WE HAVE A BIG MEETING ON FRIDAY WITH THE SOIL CONSERVATION FUND.
I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN FIND SOME SYNERGY FROM SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES TO, TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH TRYING TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR, FOR THESE LAKES AND DAMS. UM, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY DECISIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE ON THE CONSERVATION, UH, FUNDING, UM, THAT OUR STATE REPS HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.
SO WE, WE WILL NEED SOME FOLLOW UP WORK ON THIS, BUT I AM TAKING THE BULL BY THE HORN, SO TO SPEAK, IN THIS SESSION ON IT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PROCLAMATION AND REC AND RESOLUTIONS.
GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
[15. CONSENT AGENDA: ]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15, CONSENT AGENDA.I THINK WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS.
UM, WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, THE MINUTES, UM, THERE WAS TWO MINUTES FROM DECEMBER.
WERE THOSE ONES THAT WERE APPROVED LAST TIME OR ARE WE APPROVING 'EM AGAIN NOW? 'CAUSE THERE WAS NO SIGNATURE ON 'EM.
SO THEY'RE THE SAME ONES AS LAST TIME.
THE NEW ONE, THE NEW ONE IS ACTUALLY JANUARY 6TH ONLY THE OTHER MINUTES WERE ALREADY APPROVED.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU OBTAINED, RIGHT? I WAS, I WAS WONDERING WHY IS IT HERE AGAIN TO APPROVE IN OUR PACKET? NOT SURE WE'RE REALLY APPROVING IT THIS TIME,
SO WE'RE JUST APPROVING THE MINUTES FOR JANUARY 6TH AT THIS MEETING, BUT IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.
BUT CAN I, UM, ASK A QUESTION? YOU SAID IT IS JUST FOR BACKUP, BUT, UM, IS THIS, ARE THESE MINUTES PUT INTO THE RECORD FROM A TRANSPARENCY STANDPOINT FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO LOOK AT 'EM? THAT, UM, ON OUR WEBSITE, JENNIFER, THE MINUTES ARE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND ACTUALLY THE MINUTES THAT I PROVIDE TO THE COURT AS A COURTESY ARE, UM, THERE FOR YOU TO REVIEW, NOT NECESSARILY APPROVE, CORRECT? YES.
AND THEY ARE PUT OUT ON THE WEBSITE? YES.
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP.
SO WE DON'T APPROVE THE MINUTES.
WELL, HE JUST SAID WE DON'T THE OFFICIAL COPY IS THE ONE SHE'S PROVIDING IS NOT THE OFFICIAL COPY OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO SHE, SHE PROVIDES THE COPY OF THE MINUTES FOR US PRIOR TO APPROVAL FOR, FOR US TO REVIEW A A AS A COURTESY SO WE CAN DECIDE.
ONCE WE APPROVE 'EM, THE MINUTES ARE THE MINUTES.
BUT BEFOREHAND, IF WE LOOK AT IT AND DISCOVER AN ERROR OR SAY I, I, I, I, YEAH, I VOTED DIFFERENTLY OR I DIDN'T SAY THAT I SAID THIS, THEN, THEN JENNIFER WOULD GO BACK AND SHE WOULD REVIEW THE MINUTES AND THEN IT WOULD BE HER DETERMINATION TO, TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR NOT.
AND IF THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, THEN IT WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO THE COURT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE LEGAL, UH, LITMUS TEST, BUT THAT CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE THE LOGICAL THING TO DO.
UM, WELL IT JUST AS A LITTLE IN, IN INPUT, BECAUSE I WAS THE COUNTY CLERK FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THE CLERK'S MINUTES ARE HER OWN RECORDS.
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO COME TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
IT'S JUST ALWAYS BEEN A COURTESY OF THE ROCKWELL COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE THAT THEY PROVIDE THE MINUTES TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
SO REALLY, UH, I THINK IT'S JUST A, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? A, A FORMALITY, RIGHT? OH, I CALL IT A MINISTERIAL DUTY.
SO REALLY, UH, YOU DON'T, THEY'RE HER RECORDS.
TRANSLATION OF WHAT YOU ALL SAID.
SO THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE IN SERVING ON BOARDS NOW FOR 40 YEARS, GOVERNMENT AND NON-GOVERNMENT, WE'VE ALWAYS APPROVED MINUTES.
AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE MINUTES AND THAT THEY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING BECAUSE TO US IT MEANS SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN NOW ANYMORE, BUT THEY MEAN SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S HER RECORD OF THE MEETING.
BUT IF SOMETHING'S WRONG IN THE MINUTES, AND TWO THINGS, IF SHE DOES, I GUESS IT'S IN HER
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DISCRETION, THE COUNTY CLERK'S DISCRETION, WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNTY CLERK WANTS TO CHANGE THEM.TWO, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR LEGAL IMPACT? DOES IT MEAN ANYTHING? AND THREE, IF I DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE 'EM, WHY ARE THEY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? WAS WHY AM I APPROVING 'EM THEN? BECAUSE IF I APPROVE IT AND I DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING IN THE MINUTES, THEN I'VE SAID I AGREE WITH HER OR THE COUNTY CLERK.
AND MAYBE I DON'T, AND MAYBE THE COUNTY CLERK WOULD SAY TO ME, YOU'RE WRONG.
AND IN WHICH CASE, WHY AM I APPROVING THE MINUTES? I'D ASK OUR GENERAL COUNSEL THAT DON'T HAVE A FULL ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT.
BUT THESE ARE RECORDED MEETINGS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN OUR OTHER COUNTIES, A LOT OF 'EM, YOU DO A YOUTUBE RECORDING, RIGHT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
AND SO TO THE EFFECT THAT YOU TRANSCRIBED FROM THAT RECORDING, THAT'S THE RECORD.
AND AGAIN, IT'S HER OFFICIAL RECORD.
IT'S HER DUTIES UNDER, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE OR GOVERNMENT CODE TO TAKE THE MINUTES OUT OF A MEETING AND TAKE THE RECORD OF A MEETING AS THE COUNTY CLERK.
UH, BUT AS FAR AS WHAT THE MINUTES COME FROM, IT'S FROM THE RECORDING THAT'S MADE.
AND SO IF SHE WAS, SHE'D BE MAKING ACTUAL LEGAL RECORDING, THE ACTUAL AUDIO VIDEO RECORDING THAT'S BEING TAKEN IS THE, WHAT THE MINUTES ARE DERIVED FROM.
AND SO IF THERE'S AN, IF THERE'S AN, EVEN IF YOU VOTED TO APPROVE THEM, IF THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THEY WERE ACCURATE OR NOT, THERE'S THAT RECORDING DOCUMENT, RETENTION SCHEDULE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
UM, BUT I GUESS I'D GO BACK TO, AND AS I SAID, I'VE BEEN APPROVING MINUTES FOR 40 PLUS YEARS IN MEETINGS LIKE THIS, BUT I GO BACK TO WHY ARE WE APPROVING THEM IF THEY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING, QUESTION, WHY ARE WE APPROVING THEM? AND I, AS, AS, UH, OUR CURRENT COUNTY CLERK WOULD TELL YOU, I DON'T, I LOVE TO REVIEW MINUTES AND SHE AND I HAVE CORRESPONDED ON 'EM AND I DON'T, I'LL PROBABLY KEEP DOING IT, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE APPROVING IT IF IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
'CAUSE I MAY DISAGREE WITH IT.
AND THEN WHY ARE WE HAVING THIS ARGUMENT? WE'VE NOW WASTED 15 MINUTES OF EVERYBODY'S TIME.
'CAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE'RE APPROVING.
IT'S, I I DON'T THINK IT'S A WASTED, IT'S NOT WASTED EITHER.
I WAS JUST SITTING HERE THINKING, SO I STEPPED IN AND STARTED PLAYING THIS PICKUP BASEBALL GAME AND I PLAYED BY THE RULES THAT THE, THE PREVIOUS TEAM HAD PUT IN PLACE.
AND I'M SITTING HERE GOING, WELL, WHY DIDN'T I ASK THAT FOR, FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS? BECAUSE I WAS PLAYING BY THE RULES THAT, THAT, UH, A PREVIOUS TEAM WHO'S NO LONGER PLAYING THE GAME.
ALL THOSE NEW GUYS ARE PLAYING THE GAME.
WHY AREN'T WE PLAYING BY THESE RULES? BUT WE ALSO DID IT ON, ON FROM A MUNICIPALITY STANDPOINT TOO.
WE, WE, WE DID, BUT I I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE SAME ISSUE AT THE MUNICIPALITY.
UM, WELL, I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT MEANT SOMETHING I DID TOO UNTIL JUST NOW.
WELL, ON A MUNICIPALITY, THE CITY'S SECRETARY IS REQUIRED TO KEEP THE MINUTES SIMILAR TO THE CLERK, BUT IT'S STILL THE CITY'S SECRETARY'S RECORD WITH RESPECT TO COUNCIL.
THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL STILL APPROVE.
BUT WHAT I'VE JUST BEEN TOLD IS THAT THE OFFICIAL RECORD LEGALLY IS THE RECORDING.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT MINUTES AND REVIEW 'EM AND GIVE MY COMMENTS.
AND, BUT WHY AM I APPROVING THEM? IF I DISAGREE WITH THEM, I'LL DO A DEEP DIVE AND GET YOU A, A SOLID ANSWER ON, ON ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THERE.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THE SHORT ANSWER IS YOU, IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THEM, YOU SHOULDN'T APPROVE 'EM.
WE SHOULD HAVE, IF ALL THE REST OF US AGREE, IT SHOULD BE A FOUR ONE VOTE OF RIGHT.
I DON'T AGREE, BUT THEN I GOTTA, OKAY.
YEAH, BUT TO YOUR POINT, WHAT ARE WE APPROVING AND DISAPPROVING IF IT'S NOT THE RECORD OF THIS COMMISSIONER? WELL, THIS, WHAT I WAS JUST TOLD IS ON THIS ONE, ALL WE'RE APPROVING IS JANUARY 6TH BECAUSE ALL IT, OUR, OUR AGENDA SAYS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
THAT DOESN'T TELL ME WHICH MEETINGS.
AND THAT'S WHAT STARTED THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION.
THERE WERE TWO IN OUR PACKET, THERE WERE TWO SETS OF MINUTES THAT WERE NEITHER, THAT WERE NOT SIGNED.
AND I WASN'T GONNA, I WASN'T HERE AT THOSE MEETINGS BECAUSE I WAS NOT A COMMISSIONER.
SO I SAID, WELL, WHICH MINUTES ARE WE APPROVING? IF ALL WE'RE APPROVING IS THE JANUARY 6TH MINUTES, WHICH I HAVE, BY THE WAY, NO PROBLEM WITH, UM, FOR JUST CONVENIENCE.
I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO APPROVE THOSE AT THIS MEETING.
BUT I WANT THE, THE MOTION TO SAY FOR THE MINUTES, ALL WE'RE APPROVING IS JANUARY 6TH.
AND THEN WITHOUT SPENT WRITING A LAW REVIEW ARTICLE, IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US AN ANSWER,
WE, WE MAY END UP NOT APPROVING MINUTES ANYMORE.
WITH THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
WAIT, I GOT GOT ANOTHER QUESTION.
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I'M DONE.UM, ITEM BI HAD A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS WAS.
JUDGE KNEW, ACKNOWLEDGE THE FORENSIC LABORATORY, AND I SAW THE FEE SCHEDULES IN HERE, I THINK MM-HMM
SO WHAT ARE WE, ARE WE VOTING TO APPROVE IT OR JUST THAT YOU AGREE, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S THERE.
WE WE'RE, SO MY NAME GETS ON THIS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS AND AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS NEED A PERSON FROM THE COURT TO AGREE IT'S OUR AGENDA TO AGREE THAT THEY CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED, AT SOME POINT, SOMEBODY HAS CALLED AND SAID, HEY JUDGE, CAN I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA? UH, AND OF COURSE I'LL HAVE A QUESTION.
WHAT IS IT? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT ARE WE DOING? YES.
IT, IT, IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T MERIT OPEN DEBATE.
WE, WE, WE ARE APPROVING THE FEE SCHEDULE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH ITEM A 15, A MODIFIED TO MEAN SAY WE'RE APPROVING ONLY THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING ON JANUARY 6TH.
WE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.
I'LL SECOND GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
STACY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
LET'S SEE, WE HAVE NO PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS OR DISPOSITIONS.
[17. NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFER(S)]
ITEM 17, NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS.WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING THE FOLLOWING.
NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS 20 25 0 4, WHICH IS TRANSFERRED 22,500 WITHIN THE S-C-A-A-P GRANT FUND TO S-C-A-A-P.
BONUSES FROM S-C-A-A-P, FUNDED EXPENSES TO REALLOCATE BUDGETED FUNDS.
AND ITEM 2 0 2 5 DASH ZERO FIVE, TRANSFER 3,390,000 WITHIN THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUND BUDGET TO THIRD FLOOR CONSTRUCTION CONSULTING SERVICES AT $500,000 AND CONSTRUCTION EXPENSES AT $1,290,000.
AND SHARE REMODEL CONSULTING SERVICES AT $250,000 AND CONSTRUCTION EXPENSES AT $1,350,000 FROM THIRD FLOOR AT $1,790,000 IN SHERIFF'S REMODEL AT $1,600,000 TO REAL REALLOCATE BUDGETED FUNDS.
YEAH, IT, IT TOOK US A MINUTE.
SO, UH, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED 2025 DASH OH FOUR AND 2025 DASH OH FIVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY SECOND, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GUANA.
ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
[18. APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL(S)]
BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 18, APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS AND PAYROLL.I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT PAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $258,097 AND 25 CENTS, AND I REQUEST THE COURT'S APPROVAL.
MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
I'M ALSO SUBMITTING TO THE COURT UNPAID CLAIMS, THE AMOUNT OF $10,397,641 AND 68 CENTS.
AND I'M ASKING FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL OF THESE PAYMENTS OF UNPAID CLAIMS ARE THE, YOUR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS FOR FEBRUARY SO MOVED.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW.
YEAH, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD WHEN THE BIG ONES COME OUT, IT'S LIKE, I GOTTA EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $10 MILLION HERE.
ALL RIGHT, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AND LASTLY, I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT THE PAYROLL REPORT FOR THE PAY PERIOD ENDING JANUARY THE FOURTH, 2025 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,155,309 AND 60 CENTS.
AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.
SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[21. COMMISSIONERS COURT REPORTS]
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21, COMMISSIONER COURT REPORTS.LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER ALANA.
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I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING EITHER.COMMISSIONER LTY, I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT THAT MY EIGHTH GRANDCHILD WAS BORN HEALTHY AND HAPPY.
CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL ACCOUNTS.
I HAVE NOTHING AT THIS TIME, SIR.