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ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

IT IS NINE O'CLOCK ON MARCH 25TH.

I'M GONNA CALL THE REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING TO ORDER.

UH, I'M GONNA LEAD

[A) INVOCATION]

US AN INVOCATION, THEN ASK COMMISSIONER STACEY TO LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGES.

IF EVERYBODY WOULD STAND AS ABEL.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY, SINNERS, THANKFUL THAT YOU'VE SENT YOUR SON JESUS CHRIST TO PAY FOR OUR SINS.

SO THAT WOULD GIVE US A CONDUIT TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU.

LORD GOD, WE ASK THAT WHEN WE OPEN OUR MOUTHS TODAY, IT'D BE A REFLECTION OF YOU AND THAT WE CONTINUE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.

AND IN DOING SO, WE SERVE YOU FOR IT'S YOUR WILL THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE IN ROCKWALL COUNTY.

THANK YOU, LORD FOR ALL YOU'VE GIVEN US.

THANK YOU, LORD, FOR BLESSING US WITH THE ABILITY TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTY.

AND THANK YOU, LORD, AS WE GO FORWARD TO PROTECT IT.

IT'S IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

AMEN.

ALL RIGHT, JOIN ME FIRST OF THE AMERICAN I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AND NOW, TEXAS HONOR, THE TEXAS HONOR, TEXAS FLAG.

LEAVE THIS IN ME, TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.

GOD LOVES US.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS BRINGS

[RECOGNITION/PRESENTATION]

US UP TO RECOGNITIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.

SHARON TULLEY IS HERE WITH AMY NORTON THAT HAS RECOGNITION ON BEHALF OF REPRESENTATIVE KATRINA PEARSON.

THE PODIUM MICROPHONE IS YOURS, LADIES.

THANK YOU.

IS IT ON? I'M SHARON THULE.

THIS IS AMY NORTON.

AND WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF REPRESENTATIVE KATRINA PEARSON.

TODAY WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A RESOLUTION TO RECOGNIZE, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? NO.

OKAY, BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR Y ALL HANG EITHER.

HANG ON.

CHECK, CHECK.

CAN YOU HEAR ME IN THE BACK? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

HANG ON.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? NOPE.

.

THERE WE GO.

WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT RIGHT HERE.

FABULOUS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

SO AGAIN, I'M SHARON TULLEY.

THIS IS AMY NORTON.

WE'RE HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF REPRESENTATIVE KATRINA PEARSON.

WE'RE DELIVERING A RESOLUTION TO HONOR JOHN STACEY.

I WILL READ THE RESOLUTION.

IT'S BRIEF.

JOHN STA, THE PRECINCT FOR COMMISSIONER FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY, HAS GREATLY BENEFITED HIS FELLOW CITIZENS THROUGH HIS EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO HIS COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS MR. STACEY WAS ELECTED TO THE ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022, AFTER SERVING AS A PRECINCT CHAIR FOR THE COUNTY'S REPUBLICAN PARTY.

AND WHEREAS AS A DECEDENT OF ONE OF STEPHEN F AUSTIN'S OLD 300 SETTLERS, MR. STACY BECAME ACTIVE IN STATE POLITICS DURING THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT.

HE WAS LATER ELECTED TO THE FATE CITY COUNCIL, AND HE HAS ALSO BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CAPITAL IMPACT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

BUT MOREOVER, HE HAS COMPLETED THREE TERMS AS A MEMBER OF THE FATE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.

HE HAS ALSO SERVED ROCKWELL COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION AS BOTH A MEMBER AND AS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO THE BOARD.

AND WHEREAS IN ALL HIS ENDEAVORS, MR. STACY ENJOYS THE LOVE AND SUPPORT OF HIS WIFE, AMY.

AND HE TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN THEIR THREE SONS, JUDE, GABRIEL, AND LUKE.

HE CURRENTLY ACTS AS SCOUT MASTER OF BOY SCOUT TROOP NUMBER 1 6 3.

AND HE HAS ALSO SERVED FOR MANY YEARS AS A YOUTH BIBLE TEACHER AND AN ADULT BIBLE STUDY LEADER.

HE IS A VALUED MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY LIFE CHURCH.

AND WHEREAS THROUGH HIS LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION, JOHN STACEY HAS MADE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF AREA RESIDENTS.

HE HAS SET AN EXAMPLE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO WHICH ALL MAY ASPIRE.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVES THAT JOHN STACEY BE HONORED FOR HIS CIVIC CONTRIBUTIONS AND THAT HE BE EXTENDED, SINCERE BEST WISHES FOR THE FUTURE.

SIGNED BY KATRINA PEARSON, YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT 33.

WOW.

I AM LITERALLY SPEECHLESS.

YES.

THANK YOU.

WOW.

YOU SAID IT.

UH, .

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

CONGRATULATIONS.

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THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

DESERVED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WOW, JOB.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WOW.

WELL DONE.

WELL DONE.

OKAY.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

THAT'S GONNA COME WITH, UH, A LITTLE INFORMATIONAL, UM, UH, INSTRUCTIONS HERE.

SO WE, WE HAVE A PUBLIC FORUM, UH, WHICH ALL CITIZENS ARE, ARE WELCOME TO COME FORTH AND ADDRESS THE COUNTY ABOUT ANY COUNTY MATTERS.

BUT THEN IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, I WOULD ASK YOU TO WAIT TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS THE VERY NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

IF YOU HAVE MATTERS OTHER THAN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, COME FORWARD AND, AND SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC FORUM.

SO HAVING, AND IF YOU WANNA SPEAK ON BOTH, YOU CAN SPEAK ON BOTH.

SO, HAVING SAID THAT, WE'LL MOVE

[1. PUBLIC FORUM]

ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE PUBLIC FORUM.

IT'S THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNTY ABOUT ANY COUNTY MATTERS.

SO LET'S SEE IF I, UH, YEP.

WE HAVE A STACK.

SEE IF I CAN.

CLARENCE, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN OR OTHER MATTERS? STRATEGIC PLAN? OKAY.

WELL, HOLD, HOLD TIGHT.

UH, STRATEGIC PLAN.

STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE ROCHELLE WHITMEYER WILL BE FIRST.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I, UM, DON'T LIKE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE ANYMORE.

I PRAY BY PASTIME.

SO BEAR WITH ME AS I SHAKE AND .

UM, NO, NO WORRIES.

I'VE TAKE, TAKE YOUR TIME.

I'VE GOT MY, MY NOTES.

SO, UM, ROCHELLE WHITMEYER, I LIVE, UH, HIGH POINT LAKE ESTATES.

AND, UM, I WANNA SAY THE, IN THE BIBLE, THE WAY THE WICKED IS, LIKE DEEP DARKNESS, THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT MAKES THEM STUMBLE.

IF BEING DRIVEN BY FALSE IDOLS LIKE GREED SUPERSEDES WHAT THE FRUIT OF OUR SPIRIT TELLS US WHAT'S RIGHT, IT WILL RESULT IN DEATH.

WHETHER THAT'S DEATH OF A COMMUNITY, DEATH OF FAMILY, DEATH OF OUR SERENITY, UM, AND I CAN'T SEE HOW ALLOWING ALMOST 7,000 NEW HOMES IN AN AREA THAT CANNOT CURRENTLY PROVIDE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS FOR CURRENT RESIDENTS IS ACCEPTABLE.

NOT TO MENTION TURNING ROCKWELL INTO THE VERY PLACES MYSELF AND MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS MOVED TO GET AWAY FROM.

I'VE TALKED TO 50 NEIGHBORS WHO ALSO TALKED TO NEIGHBORS, UM, WHO MOVED TO ROCKWELL BECAUSE WE BELIEVED, UM, THAT ROCKWELL HELD A HIGH HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDARD FOR OUR COMMUNITY, APPRECIATING THE BEAUTY AND THE INTEGRITY.

AS ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS POINTED OUT A FEW WEEKS AGO REGARDING THE OUTER LOOP, THAT WHAT'S NICE ABOUT ROCKWELL IS WE HAVE PROXIMITY WITHOUT THE CHAOS OF WHAT A CITY BRINGS.

UM, LIKE I SAID, THAT WE'VE ALL MOVED FROM, YOU KNOW, I TOOK MY TWO YOUNG KIDS TO VISIT SAN ANTONIO AND FREDERICKSBURG, UM, AND TO HEAR THEIR, GRANTED, I'M THEIR PARENT, BUT THEY HATED BEING IN THE CITY.

IT, IT EMOTIONALLY JUST FELT UNSAFE.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE MOVED HERE.

WE DID NOT WANT THEM TO HAVE TO BE SCARED TO GO OUT THEIR FRONT DOOR.

UM, SO WE PURCHASED OUR HOMES TO BE IN SERENITY, NOT THREATENED BY GREEDY DEVELOPERS.

AND I AM BEGGING HERE FOR ALL OF YOU TO HOLD THE LINE, HOLD THE LINE, AND PROTECT OUR SPACE.

SOUTH ROCKWELL DOES NOT NEED HIGH DENSITY HOUSING.

WE DON'T NEED A HUGE HIGHWAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR.

UM, SO BE THE SHINING STARS AND A CROOKED AND DEPRAVED GENERATION.

SO, GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ON THE LIST, MAYOR BRIAN MCNEIL.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WANNA SPEAK ON, ON MULTIPLE ITEMS. SA SAVE THE, THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PLEASE, THAT MESSES UP MY SPEECH.

AS YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO BE YOU, YOU ARE PREPARED SPEECH WORTHY.

YES, SIR.

SO WE WILL, UH, GO STRAIGHT TO THE OTHER PART.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS, AWESOME RECOGNITION.

COMMISSIONER STACY.

UM, MAN, WELL DONE, LADIES.

WELL DONE AND WELL DESERVED.

UM, NOT A PART OF THE SPEECH BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, BUT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, DR.

WHARTON.

OKAY.

DR.

WHARTON HAS CONTINUED TO STATE

[00:10:01]

THAT THEY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM.

SIMPLY PUT, I'M GONNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.

THE CITY OF MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THIS CONTRACT WITH DR HORTON RIVER ROCK ON JULY THE NINTH OF 2024, MYSELF AND COUNSEL MADE IT VERY CLEAR BY VOTE OF FOUR TO ONE, THAT WE WILL NOT HONOR THIS CONTRACT FOR FIRE EMS. IT WAS STATED THEN THAT DR HORTON LEFT THE ETJ AND LEFT A BURDEN ON THE CITIZENS OF MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM TO SUBSIDIZE THE FIRE PROTECTION ON OUR TIME.

I REPRESENT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE NOW, NOT THOSE THAT ARE YET TO COME.

I HAVE A STACK FULL OF EMAILS THAT I BROUGHT WITH ME FOR DR. HORTON.

THE CLAIM TO BE AMERICA'S HOME BUILDER IS APPALLING THAT THEY CHOOSE TO NEVER WANNA WORK WITH THE CITIES IN WHICH THEY DEVELOP.

I'M SURE THEY'RE HAVING THEIR LITTLE SNARKS AND SMILES BEHIND ME RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST HOW THEY SHOW TO BE.

THEY COME IN AND THEY SAY, THIS IS HOW WE'LL DO IT, AND THIS IS HOW YOU'RE GONNA GET IT.

THERE'S NOT AN OUNCE OF TEAMWORK OR NEGOTIATION TO COME WITH IT, AS IT HAS SHOWN THAT NOT ONE TIME HAS DR HORTON REACHED OUT TO MY OFFICE WITH ALL THE ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON YOUR AGENDA AND OUR AGENDAS.

YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD AT LEAST WANNA COME AND TALK.

BUT YET THEY DON'T.

IT IS NOT HARD TO GOOGLE OR YOUTUBE THE NAME OF DR HORTON AND SEE AN ENDLESS LIST OF ISSUES AND COMPLAINTS THAT TYPICALLY, GENERALLY NORMALLY FALL BACK ON THE CITIES SO MUCH.

IN FACT, THE PAST MAYOR AND MAYOR PRO TIMMA MCCLIN CHISHOLM VOTED TO TAKE ALL THE OVERSIGHT AWAY FROM THE CITY ON PAPER, TO WHICH A WORKSHOP HERE AT THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT POINTED THAT OUT.

SO, LET THIS BE NOTIFICATION THAT THIS CONTRACT CHISHOLM SIDE, WE HAVE DONE THIS ON JULY THE NINTH, HORTON, A CITY SPEAKS ONLY THROUGH ORDINANCES, RESOLUTIONS, AND MINUTES.

CITY OF AUSTIN VERSUS WHITTINGTON, CITING HORTON VERSUS MILLS COUNTY.

WE'RE DONE.

WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM, THE DOOR OPEN IF THEY WANT TO COME AND TALK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT.

SHERRY LONDON.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONER SHERRY LONDON, TWO 16 HARVEST RIDGE.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE RIVER ROCKS DEVELOPMENT.

UM, ONE OF THOSE CRAZY PEOPLE WHO MOVED HERE AND ACTUALLY READ THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE COMMUNITY THAT I WAS GONNA BE A PART OF.

I LOVE THE LARGE LOTS, THE RURAL COUNTRY FEEL.

AND FRANKLY, IF I WANTED TO LIVE IN DALLAS OR PLANO, I WOULD'VE BOUGHT PROPERTY THERE.

BUT WE DIDN'T.

WE WANTED TO LIVE IN A SEMI-RURAL LIFESTYLE THAT WE HAVE WHERE WE ARE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT RIVER ROCKS IS AN ETJ, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AUSTIN HAS TAKEN A LOT OF THE POWER AWAY FROM CITIES AND COUNTIES TO, TO CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS IN THOSE UNINCORPORATED PARTS OF THE, OF THE COUNTY.

AND I, I THINK THIS IS A TRAVESTY.

NOW, AS A CONSERVATIVE, I DO BELIEVE IN PROPERTY RIGHTS, BUT I BELIEVE ALSO THAT WE NEED TO BALANCE THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY OWN THEIR PROPERTY, WHO MADE THE INVESTMENT, SOMETIMES THE LARGEST SINGLE WEALTH GENERATING ASSET IN ANYBODY'S PORTFOLIO IN THE HOME THAT THEY BOUGHT.

AND TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO LIVE THAT LIFESTYLE THAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR, THAT THEY CAREFULLY SELECTED THAT PROPERTY FOR ONLY TO BE OVERRUN BY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WAY BEYOND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND NOT JUST WATER.

ALL OF YOU KNOW, I'M VERY INTIMATE WITH THE WATER ISSUE.

AND I DO KNOW THAT BY THE TIME THAT THING GOT DEVELOPED, WE'D HAVE WATER ONLINE TO SERVE IT.

BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ROADS.

WE'RE ALSO TALKING SCHOOLS.

PEOPLE MOVE HERE FOR THE SCHOOLS.

PEOPLE MOVE HERE FOR THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION WE HAVE HERE.

WHEN YOU DROP THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT QUICKLY, AND LET'S NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT THREATEN OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR ROADS, BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT THREATENS OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR ROADS, WE'RE JUST NOT READY FOR IT.

I, I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE, IN THE COUNTY OF ROCKWELL WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, ROCKWELL 2050 FOR THE CITIES TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY TO SHAPE THE WAY THAT WE GO.

UM, I'LL BE WORKING HARD IN AUSTIN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP LOCAL CONTROL AND STRENGTHEN LOCAL CONTROL RATHER THAN WEAKEN IT.

BUT I BEG YOU TO DO ANYTHING IN YOUR POWER THAT YOU CAN BY THE LAW TODAY TO OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE JUST NOT READY FOR IT.

WE DON'T WANT IT.

AND YOU MUST CONSIDER THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE ALREADY HERE AND WHO SIGNED UP TO HAVE THE RURAL LIFESTYLE THAT WE ALL ENJOY IN THAT PART OF THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SHERRY.

TODD ARONS IS NEXT ON THE LIST.

TODD ARONS.

[00:15:02]

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? 'CAUSE I HATE SITTING OUT THERE AND YOU CAN'T HEAR WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING.

SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK WITH YOU.

UM, I LIVE AT 1520 STERLING RIDGE COURT IN HIGH POINT LAKE ESTATES.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT NOW FOR 12 YEARS.

UM, IT'S A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S BEEN SAID ALREADY BECAUSE IT'S ALL TRUTHFUL.

UM, I'M GONNA QUOTE A SONG RIGHT NOW.

THEY PAVED PARADISE AND THEY PUT IN A PARKING LOT.

EVERYBODY FAMILIAR WITH THAT? 2002 COUNTING CROWS.

NOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT ARGUE THE TWO MILE BY TWO MILE PLATE OF LAND NEXT TO TATE FARMS IS PARADISE.

BUT TO THOSE THAT LIVE OUT IN THE COUNTY, IT CAN BE PARADISE.

IF IT'S DEVELOPED PROPERLY, IT CAN BE PARADISE.

WE'RE ALL HERE BECAUSE WE CARE.

THE PARTY THAT'S IN THIS ROOM THAT DOESN'T CARE IS DR HORTON.

LOOK AT THE REVIEWS ONLINE.

LOOK AT WHAT IS SAID.

THEY'RE A BULLY.

THEY BUILD TRASH.

HOW IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE THAT ROCKWALL COUNTY LETS THEM BUILD? NOW WE KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT.

WE KNOW IT'S AMERICA.

THE OTHER PROBLEM IS, IS GET ON ROCK WALLUM.

IS IT SOCIAL MEDIA? IT IS, BUT IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO THOSE THAT WANNA MOVE HERE.

THE LATEST ON ROCK WALLUM IS TELL US SOMETHING GREAT ABOUT ROCKWALL.

IT SAYS, WE'RE CLOSED.

THERE'S TOO MANY PEOPLE AND NOT ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE.

THESE ARE YOUR CITIZENS SPEAKING.

THESE ARE THIS GROUP RIGHT HERE THAT ARE SPEAKING.

WE ARE CLOSED.

WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO LET'S PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE.

THIS IS TWO MILES BY TWO MILES.

I TOOK THE LIBERTY OF PRINTING OUT POPULATIONS OF SMALL TOWNS IN, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

27,000 PEOPLE IS WHAT COULD BE PUT ON TWO MILES BY TWO MILES.

27,000 PEOPLE.

THE CITY OF ROCKWALL IS 53,000 PEOPLE RIGHT NOW, AND THE WHOLE COUNTY IS 137,000 PEOPLE.

AND WE WANNA STICK 27,000 PEOPLE ON A TWO MILE BY TWO MILE AREA THAT'S SUPPORTED BY 5 48 1 WAY AND 5 48 THE OTHER WAY, WHICH BY THE WAY, IS FALLING APART BECAUSE OF A CONCRETE PLANT THAT WENT IN ON 2 76 AND 5 48.

THAT IS COMPLETELY DESTROYING THE ROAD.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, PLEASE COME OUT THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ROAD 'CAUSE IT'S DETERIORATING QUICKLY.

CITY POPULATIONS, ROCKWALL, 52,000 SOUTH LAKE, 31,000, PARIS, 24,000 BS SPRINGS, 26,000.

PRINCETON, 26,000 FATE.

24,000.

ROY CITY, 24,000.

MELISSA ENNIS, 23,000 TERRELL.

21,000.

THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.

YOU KNOW WHAT ALL THOSE CITIES HAVE, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE A CITY, WE WANNA PUT SOMETHING BIGGER THAN THOSE IN TWO MILES BY TWO MILES.

ALL THOSE HAVE PUBLIC WASTE.

POLICE DEPARTMENTS, FIRE DEPARTMENTS, THEIR OWN ISDS.

AND NOW WE WANNA STICK A SUBDIVISION, A NEIGHBORHOOD BIGGER THAN THAT ON TWO MILES BY TWO MILES.

TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HANDLE IT, WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WOULD BE A COMPLETE UNDERSTATEMENT.

AND I THINK YOU CAN ALL AGREE WITH THAT.

I'VE HEARD THAT THE ISD IS GONNA WANT $250 MILLION INSTANTLY IF THIS GOES IN, BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT, 6,800 HOUSES.

THE MATH IS EASY.

FOUR PEOPLE PER HOUSE.

THAT'S 27,000 PEOPLE, POSSIBLY 13,000 KITS DUMPED INTO THIS AREA.

AND BY DUMP, I DON'T MEAN THAT DISRESPECTFULLY, BUT WHAT KIND OF QUALITY OF LIFE ARE ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD GONNA HAVE? WE NEED TO LOOK BEYOND WHAT THE TAX BENEFIT'S GONNA BE.

DEAR HORTON'S REPUTATION IS TERRIBLE.

IF YOU WANNA BUILD ANOTHER HIGH POINT, LAKE ESTATES OR BLUE BONDED OR HIGH POINT RANCH, GREAT GROWTH IS COMING.

WE CAN'T STOP IT.

WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE'RE ALL BIG KIDS HERE.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE MOVED IN FOR.

YOU GUYS DO GREAT AT YOUR JOB, RIGHT? IT'S COMING.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WE'VE GOT AN EXAMPLE RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, RIGHT DOWN 5 48.

IT'S CALLED FORNEY FORNEY'S MAYOR WAS RECENTLY QUOTED.

AND FORNEY MAGAZINE IS SAYING, BIG DEVELOPMENT IS AWESOME.

WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT ALL THE COMMERCIAL, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IT MEANS NOTHING.

AND IF WE CAN'T CONTROL OUR CRIME, IT MEANS NOTHING.

THEY DID A SELF-AUDIT OF FORNEY.

THEY, THEY, UM, THE AUDIT SAID THAT THEY ARE SEVEN YEARS BEHIND ON PUBLIC SAFETY.

BUT DO THEY STOP BUILDING DOWN THERE? NO.

SEVEN YEARS BEHIND FIRST RESPONDERS POLICE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS, DO WE? DO WE WANT GROWTH? SURE, WE WANT GROWTH, BUT WE WANT PROPER GROWTH.

I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME SO MUCH.

I REALLY HOPE YOU CONSIDER WHAT I FOUND WHEN IT COMES TO CITY POPULATIONS AND, AND WHY THIS CANNOT GO THROUGH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

DENNIS LONDON.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WANNA SPEAK ON BOTH.

SO BRING, BRING FORTH YOUR COMMENTS FOR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE STRATEGIC PLAN,

[00:20:01]

PLEASE.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE.

MY NAME'S DENNIS LONDON.

I LIVE AT TWO 16 HARVEST RIDGE DRIVE IN MCLENNAN CHISHOLM.

AND I COULD EASILY JUST SAY DITTO AND THEN GO SIT DOWN.

UM, THERE WAS PHENOMENAL RESEARCH BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM, BUT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM WITH IS OUR LEGISLATURE RIGHT NOW IS WORKING AGAINST US.

THE SENATE HAS ABOUT A DOZEN BILLS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY AIMED.

OOH, HEY, WHICH 1:00 AM I GOING TO? YEAH.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE KICKING IN NOW.

WE'RE GETTING VOLUME.

YEP.

ABSOLUTELY.

ALRIGHT.

IT TO THE RESCUE IT TO THE RESCUE.

THANK YOU.

IT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I'M NOT GONNA START OVER.

SO THERE'S ABOUT A DOZEN BILLS SITTING DOWN IN THE SENATE THAT THEY'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON, THAT ARE TRYING TO STRIP AWAY LOCAL CONTROL FROM THIS DAIS AS WELL AS FROM MAYOR MCNEIL, WHO I'VE TALKED TO, UH, MAYOR BILLINGS AND THE OTHER MAYORS OF THE SURROUNDING CITIES.

IT IS, IT IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING THAT WE HAVE OUR LEGISLATURE WORKING TO STRIP AWAY YOUR LOCAL CONTROL.

NOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE LOCAL CONTROL CAME FROM.

SO SOME OF Y'ALL MAY KNOW THIS AND SOME OF THE AUDIENCE MAY NOT, AND THOSE WHO ARE AT HOME WATCHING MAY NOT AS WELL.

THAT ACTUALLY STEMS FROM A SUPREME COURT CASE IN 1926, THE VILLAGE OF EICHLER V AMBLER REALTY COMPANY.

AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS AMBLER REALTY COMPANY BOUGHT A PLOT OF LAND OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE OF EUCLID.

DID I SAY EICHLER BEFORE? I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT EUCLID.

UM, SO THE, THE REALTY COMPANY HAD THIS BIG PLOT OF PROPERTY AND THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO BUILD COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, MANUFACTURING AND EVERYTHING RIGHT NEXT TO THE VILLAGE.

AND THAT INCLUDED THE SMOKE STACKS AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

WELL, THE VILLAGE SAID, NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT IN MY BACKYARD.

IF WE ALL WANT TO USE THE NIMBY, YOU KNOW, ANALOGY.

SO THAT ENDED UP GOING IN THROUGH THE COURTS, WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SUPREME COURT, AND THE SUPREME COURT CASE VOTED IN FAVOR OF EICHLER OR EUCLID SAYING, THIS IS NOT RIGHT.

WE NEED TO HAVE LOCAL CONTROL.

SO IN 1927 IN THE BRIEFING THAT WAS WRITTEN BY THEN JUSTICE GREGORY SUTHERLAND, HE STATED THAT SPECIFICALLY LOCAL CONTROL IS TO GIVE THE CONTROL OF WHAT IS HAPPENING FOR THE COMMON GOOD.

THE WEALTH OR THE WELFARE, THE HEALTH AND THE MORALE OF THE COMMUNITY FOR WHICH THEY GOVERN.

AND THAT WAS WHERE LOCAL CONTROL CAME FROM.

AND NOW WE, HERE WE ARE ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS LATER, AND OUR LEGISLATURE OVER THE LAST FEW DECADES HAS BEEN SLOWLY TRY TRYING TO STRIP AWAY PIECE BY PIECE THE CONTROL THAT WAS GRANTED BY THE SUPREME COURT SIGNED INTO BEING BY THEN SECRETARY OF COMMERCE HERBERT HUBER.

AND WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY.

WELL, SOME OF IT IS GONNA BE BECAUSE THEY'RE CHASING THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR.

WE'VE HEARD ABOUT DR HORTON HERE, AND ISN'T IT AMAZING HOW THEY WANNA PUT ALL THESE HOMES ON THESE TRACKS OF LANDS? BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE BILLS THAT ARE AIMED AT THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, AND COMMISSIONER LTI, YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS, COMMISSIONER STACEY, AND ACTUALLY ALL OF YOU, WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS.

UM, WITH A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT TWO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

NOW, THESE AREN'T YOUR MOTHER-IN-LAW QUARTERS, YOUR CASITA OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

THESE ARE FULL ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS THAT ARE LIVING UNITS SEPARATE FROM THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

AND PART OF THE LEGISLATION ALSO WANTS TO MAKE A NON REQUIREMENT OF THE PRIMARY RESIDENTS BEING OWNER OCCUPIED.

SO YOU CAN HAVE A COMPLETE, SO THINK ABOUT THIS 6,000 HOME COMMUNITY.

IF THESE BILLS WERE TO PASS, THEY'D BE ABLE TO PUT NOT JUST ONE HOME IN THERE OF THOSE 6,000, BUT THEY COULD ALSO ADD AN ADDITIONAL ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

AND IF IT'S A QUARTER ACRE, WHICH IS ABOUT THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZE, THEY COULD PUT TWO, THAT POPULATION SIR, COULD BE TRIPLED.

AND THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO ABOUT IT.

NOW, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I MENTIONED DR. HORTON AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, AND SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SMALL INTEREST IN A SMALL COMPANY, LITTLE TINY HOME BUILDER CALLED BLOCKABLE, WHICH THEY ACQUIRED A CO OR DIDN'T, OR THEY BOUGHT INTO A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

AND THAT PARTNERSHIP WOULD GIVE THEM, WELL, LET'S SEE, OH YEAH, MORE MONEY EVERY TIME THEY BUILD AND THEY DROP ONE OF THESE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN.

SO TO THE, UH, THE FIRST LADY'S COMMENT ABOUT PEOPLE CHASING, YOU KNOW, THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR.

AND THAT'S WHERE THEIR GREED IS.

YES, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

SO Y'ALL KNOW THAT I GO DOWN TO AUSTIN A LOT.

I JUST CAME BACK LAST NIGHT.

I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE SINCE WEDNESDAY, AND I WAS FIGHTING AGAINST, YOU KNOW, THAT LEGISLATION AND I'M TRYING TO HELP Y'ALL OUT.

BUT HONESTLY, WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS.

COMING HERE IS GREAT, BUT ALSO COMMENTING ON THE LEGISLATION THAT IS GOING ON DOWN IN AUSTIN, WE REALLY NEED EVERYONE'S HELP.

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SO IF ANY HELP THAT I CAN PROVIDE TO YOU OR I CAN GET FROM YOU, PLEASE, WHATEVER WE CAN DO, LET'S STOP THE NONSENSE AND JUST BRING SANITY BACK TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DENNIS.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT ON ANY MATTERS OTHER THAN THE STRATEGIC PLAN? CC COME ON, COME ON FORWARD.

TELL US YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

I I I, I WILL TELL YOU AT THAT THE MAYOR'S FORUM, THERE WAS A REAL FUNNY TIME WHERE THEY SAID, COME FORWARD AND EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL SAID, BOB WACKER, 7 0 9 FEATHERSTONE GRIND, .

UH, AND I STILL DON'T HAVE CUSHIONS, BUT ANYWAY, YEAH, , I, I'D LIKE TO ADD NOT SOME SUBJECTIVE ARGUMENTS, BUT SOME FACTUAL ARGUMENTS THAT YOU COULD USE IN CASES OF LAWSUIT.

UH, AND I REMEMBER DANA, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN SHE WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY HAVE THE DISCRETIONARY POWER TO TURN SOMETHING DOWN, EVEN THOUGH IT MET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS, EVERY SINGLE REQUIREMENT, THE COMPREHENSIVE SUPPLY, IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WASN'T THERE, SHE DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS ED.

SHE HAS THE DISCRETIONARY POWER TO TURN IT DOWN.

AND SHE VOTED IT DOWN.

EVERYBODY ELSE HAS THAT SAME DISCRETIONARY POWER.

THE MAYORS, THE COMMISSIONERS, OKAY.

THERE WAS A FOUR OR A, A SPEAKING ENGAGEMENT LAST WEEK.

THE SHERIFF AND THE POLICE COMMISSION, POLICE CHIEFS OF, UH, ROCKWELL AND HEATH AND CHIEF FOWLER SAID ONE THING IS A KNOWN FACT WITH THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE MORE HOMES, THE MORE TRAFFIC, THE MORE ACCIDENTS.

THERE'S ONE MORE REASON YOU CAN TURN ANYTHING DOWN IF YOU WANT.

I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS.

SAFETY AND HEALTH ARE THE TWO REASONS.

EVEN THOUGH THEY NEED ANYTHING ELSE.

IF THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE OR A HEALTH ISSUE, YOU'RE LEGALLY ALMOST OBLIGATED TO TURN IT DOWN.

AND THIS IS DEFINITELY A SAFETY ISSUE.

SO I, I WISH YOU WELL, I HOPE EVERYTHING TURNS OUT AND, UH, I HOPE HORTON SUES BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA SURE.

LOSE THIS ONE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. WACKER.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT? ALL RIGHT, SEE YOU.

NO ONE.

WE'LL MOVE ON

[2. PUBLIC HEARING to discuss the Rockwall County Strategic Plan 2050, and all related issues]

TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THE ROCKWELL COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN 2050 AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

SO AT 9 27, I AM GOING TO CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ORDER.

WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP, MR. CLARENCE JOF.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

I DON'T LIKE MICS 'CAUSE I'M NORMALLY LOUD AS IT IS, SOMEONE I'M, STAY IN THE CORNER AND KEEP QUIET.

BUT ANYWAY, COUNTY JUDGE ESTEEM COMMISSIONERS.

I'M CLARENCE J MAYOR PRO TEM OF THE CITY OF ROCKWALL.

IT WAS AN HONOR TO PARTICIPATE AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE ROCKWALL COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN 2050.

MY CONTINUING COMMIT TO NATIONAL SECURITY AND COMMUNITY SAFETY AFFORDED ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROUDLY PROVIDE INPUT AND SUPPORT TO THIS CRUCIAL INITIATIVE.

THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS A CORNERSTONE FOR DEFINING LONG-TERM GOALS, OPTIMIZING RESOURCES, AND ALIGNING EFFORTS TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF ROCKWALL AND ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS AT THE HEART OF THIS PROCESS WITH RESIDENTS PARTICIPATING IN SEVEN IN-PERSON SESSIONS TO ADDRESS KEY CONCERNS AND ENSURE THAT THE PLAN REFLECTS THEIR ASPIRATIONS.

THIS LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT STRENGTHENED DECISION MAKING FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE LEADERS ALIKE.

AS A STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBER, I WITNESSED FIRSTHAND THE DEDICATION OF ALL PARTIES INVOLVED FROM THE ONSET.

THIS COLLABORATION HAS PROVIDED A CLEAR ROADMAP THAT EMPOWERS COUNTY AND CITY LEADERS ALIKE TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS ALIGNED WITH SHARED GOALS, WHICH FOSTER UNITED VISION FOR ROCKWELL COUNTY'S FUTURE.

IN CONCLUSION, THE STRATEGIC PLAN SERVES AS A GUIDING DOCUMENT TO DIRECT RESOURCES AND EFFORTS TOWARDS OUR COLLECTIVE VISION.

TOGETHER, RESIDENTS, CITY LEADERS, AND COUNTY OFFICIALS WORKING IN HARMONY, WE CAN ACHIEVE EXTRAORDINARY PROGRESS FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY.

I COMMEND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTS WISDOM AND LEADERSHIP, AND CREATING THIS FORWARD THINKING PLAN AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY ENDORSE ITS ADOPTION.

LET'S CONTINUE PRESERVING AND ENHANCING THE ROCK WALL THAT WE ALL CHERISH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, CLARENCE.

NEXT, UH, MAYOR DAVID BILLINGS AND, AND ON DECK IS CARL ALSBROOK.

JUST SO WE'RE PREPARED, DID DAVID BILLINGS ONE 20 WILMINGTON DRIVE FATE? UH, I WAS ALSO HONORED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAN.

IT WAS WELL DONE.

UM, THE, UH, PUBLIC HAD A SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT.

IT WAS UP TO THEM.

THEY CHOSE TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS OR NOT.

BUT I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE, UH, THE ONLINE ACCESS.

WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS, PLENTY OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK ABOUT THEIR WISHES AND THEIR DESIRES.

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I THINK THIS PLAN OUTLINES WHERE WE NEED TO GO, BUT ALSO GONNA CREATE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF ROCKWELL COUNTY, HOW THE STATE'S GOING, GOING TO RESET THE RULES FOR US GOING FORWARD, AND THEN, THEN HOW WE DO THOSE ISSUES GOING FORWARD.

I THINK THAT'S PLAN WILL BE THE GREAT GUIDELINE FOR THAT.

AND, AND, UM, AND SET THE GOALPOSTS WHERE WE NEED TO GO TOGETHER AS A COUNTY AND ALL THE CITIES IN ROCKWELL COUNTY.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING IT.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

TWO MINUTES.

WELL DONE, SIR.

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ALL RIGHT, CARL, ALSO BROOKE AND ON DECK IS MAYOR BRIAN MCNEIL.

CARL OSBERG, 100 WEST MAINE, UH, ROYCE CITY, TEXAS.

AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

I KNEW I WOULD'VE TO CUT MINE SHORT BECAUSE I WAS FOLLOWING MAYOR BILLINGS .

UM, SO I DID THAT AND I'VE ALWAYS HAD A GOAL.

THIS IS MY ALMOST 40 YEARS OF, OF DOING THIS KIND OF THING.

I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO SAY, I YIELD MY TIME TOO.

SO I'M GONNA BE VERY SHORT.

AND ALL I WANNA SAY IS WE APPRECIATE YOU.

WE APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER M**K AND ALL THE WORK YOU WENT THROUGH.

WE KNOW IT'S NOT EASY.

YOU'RE HERDING CATS, TRYING TO WORK AROUND PEOPLE'S SCHEDULE.

AND SO IT WAS OUR HONOR TO PARTICIPATE.

I COME ON BEHALF OF THE ROYCE CITY COUNCIL.

I SAW MR. KIPP HUTT HERE.

HE DID A WONDERFUL JOB AS WELL.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR ORGANIZING THIS, A SINCERE APPRECIATION, AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT TIME WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND PARTICIPATE.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, CARL.

ALL RIGHT, MAYOR BRIAN MCNEIL AND ON DECK IS DENNIS LONDON.

WELL, SINCE YOU MESSED UP MY SPEECH EARLIER, I FEEL LIKE THE TALLADEGA KNIGHT'S WHAT TO DO WITH MY HANDS HERE.

UM, SO I GOTTA FIND MY SPOT.

ROCKWELL COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN 2050.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE WORK THAT WENT INTO FORMING THIS GROUP OF MEN AND WOMEN TO HELP SHAPE THE VISION OF THE COUNTY, BUT THE IMPACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE.

IT WAS A STRONG GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ALL WORKED AS A TEAM, AS ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE PROTECTION OF GROWTH AND HOW WE COLLECTIVELY ENVISIONED FOR IT.

ANOTHER KEY COMPONENT IN THIS WAS THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

SEVEN TIMES THEY HAD INPUT.

AND THAT IS WHAT I FEEL TRULY GUIDED US TO THE END, IF ANYTHING IS WHY WE ALL SAID YES.

MIND YOU, WHEN COMMISSIONER M**K ASKED YOU TO BE ON A COMMITTEE, YOU PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO SAY YES.

THE CHAIR ON THIS THAT FORMED THE MEETINGS AND KEPT US ON TRACK OR POINT, IF YOU WILL, WAS MR. MARK KIPPET.

AND HE KEPT US ONLINE.

LEMME TELL YOU, BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, THEY URGED AND PUSHED US TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, WORK IN SMALL GROUPS, TO FIND COMMON GROUND ON THE ISSUES THAT WE ALL KNOW NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

AS I LIKE TO HAVE SAID IT, IT WAS SEVERAL CITIES, ONE VISION, MANY LOOKS, AND ONE VIEW.

THE ROCKWELL COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN FOR 2050 IS MORE THAN A VISION, IF YOU ASK ME.

IT IS IN MY MIND A LIVING DOCUMENT THAT FORGES US TO BE FIRM IN OUR FOUNDATION, THAT THIS IS OUR COUNTY, AND WE DETERMINE ITS COURSE.

IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE HONOR TO BE A PART OF THIS.

TO WORK WITH SO MANY INDIVIDUALS IN A CLOSED GROUP WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY HUMBLING.

SO FOR THAT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER M**K.

MR. KIPPET, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US IN LINE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE SAW THIS THROUGH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT.

DENNIS LONDON, DO THE WHOLE RERO AGAIN.

DENNIS LONDON TWO 16 HARVESTERS DRIVE.

UM, I JUST, I MEAN, I COULD JUST SAY DITTO AND WALK AWAY AND LEAVE EVERYBODY WITH A COUPLE MINUTES BACK IN THEIR TIME.

I AM GONNA SAY, HOWEVER, THAT THE 2050 STRATEGIC PLAN, I LOVE THE FACT THAT EVERYONE WORKED TOGETHER.

THAT WAS THE KEY PIECE.

BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU GET PEOPLE TOGETHER AND DANA, OR COMMISSIONER M**K, SORRY, YOU, YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS ANYONE, AND SO DOES, UH, MR. KIPPET, THAT WHEN YOU GET A GROUP OF PEOPLE TOGETHER, THAT YOU, YOU HAVE A COMMON GOAL.

BUT THERE'S ALWAYS THE DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS.

AND EVEN ON THIS DAIS, WE'VE HEARD DIFF DIFFERING OPINIONS.

SOMETIMES IT GETS HEATED, OTHER TIMES IT'S NOT.

BUT THE FACT THAT EVERYONE CAME TOGETHER TO WORK FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY, NOT FOR PERSONAL REASONS, BUT TO LOOK FORWARD FOR WHAT WE'RE FACING, WHAT'S COMING AF AT US AND WHAT'S ALREADY HERE, THREATENING SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES NOW.

UM, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH.

AND IF ANYONE NEEDS ANY LIAISON ASSISTANCE OR WHATEVER DOWN IN AUSTIN, JUST LET ME KNOW.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M DOWN THERE.

SO, APPRECIATE Y'ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DENNIS.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING THE STRATEGIC PLAN? COME ON UP, TELL US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, MR. KIPPET.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS JUDGE.

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UH, MARK KIPPET, 31 FIRESIDE DRIVE.

UM, I GUESS I'M THE CHIEF CAT HERDER NOW.

UH, THIS IS, I WE'VE BEEN COMING AND I ONLY WANTED TO SAY I'M REALLY HAPPY BECAUSE IT'S THE FINAL STEP RIGHT BEFORE WE, UH, THE COURT WILL CONSIDER THIS FOR ADOPTION.

UH, I WANT TO THANK THE COURT FOR YOUR BOLD LEADERSHIP.

WASN'T EASY RIGHT NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO.

UH, HAD A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSIONS.

UH, BUT WE KNOW ROCKWELL'S CHANGING.

IT'S BEEN HIGHLIGHTED.

I MEAN, JUST THE EARLIER COMMENTS.

GET TO THE POINT AND GET TO THAT POINT.

WE'RE AT A TIPPING POINT AS WE THINK AHEAD.

WE'RE TWO TO THREE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS AWAY FROM LOSING CONTROL.

THIS PLAN WILL ALLOW SOME CONTROL TO BE REESTABLISHED, UH, OR ALLOW CONTROL TO BE REESTABLISHED.

THE UNITY, THE KEY.

I THINK THE, OF ALL, THIS JOURNEY THAT'S BEEN MOST IMPRESSIVE FOR ME HAS BEEN THE UNITY THAT'S BEEN ACHIEVED BETWEEN THE COUNTY, THE COURT, THE CITY LEADERSHIP, THE NONPROFITS ALL COMING TOGETHER AND AGREEING ON A COMMON VISION, UH, FOR, FOR WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE FUTURE OF THE COUNTY.

THIS COUNTY WE LOVE.

UH, AND WE ALSO CREATED A PLAN THAT YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND READ IN, I THINK ONE SITTING 30 PAGES.

UM, BUT FOR THE EVERYONE ELSE, I'LL JUST POINT OUT THERE, THERE'S ABOUT A THOUSAND PAGES OF DATA AND FACTS AND RESEARCH, UH, BROUGHT TOGETHER BY BAKER TILLY FREEZE AND NICHOLS PUBLIC OPINION.

UH, IT'S A ROBUST DATA SET THAT'S BEHIND IT, UH, EXPLAINING CAREFULLY WHO WE ARE, WHO WE WANT TO BE IN THE FUTURE.

AND AS COMMISSIONER STACEY HAS WELL STATED, UH, PRIOR, AND I THINK HIGHLIGHTS AN IMPORTANT POINT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THAT JOURNEY.

UH, AS WE, WE BROUGHT TOGETHER A PLAN, UH, IT WAS, UH, CRITICAL FIRST STEP, BUT IT'S JUST THE FIRST STEP.

THE REAL WORK IS NOW LAYS IN FRONT OF US FOR IMPLEMENTATION.

WHAT THAT MEANS WITH HOW THIS PLAN GET PLAN GETS INTERPRETED.

UH, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THERE WILL BE GREAT DISCUSSIONS KNOWING EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, UH, KNOWING THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CITIES AND THE FOLKS IN THE COUNTY, UH, WILLING TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES.

UH, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HAS THIS UNFOLDS NOW STEPPING AWAY FROM BEING A CAT HERDER, UH, AND, UH, JUST PARTICIPATE AS A CITIZEN MOVING FORWARD.

UH, SO AS YOUR CHIEF CAT HERDER, I STRONGLY ENDORSE THE PLAN.

UH, AND I, I ENCOURAGE, UH, THE COURT TO ADOPT, UH, AT THE NEXT, I GUESS NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. KIPPET.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? UH, COME ON UP.

SCOTT, TELL US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

SCOTT INGER, 1254 JONES ROAD, ROYCE CITY.

AND I TOO LIKE MR. KIPPE AND SOME OTHERS.

UM, COMMISSIONER M**K.

UM, GREAT JOB.

UM, I THINK, UM, JUST SOME KEY POINTS.

ONE, WE'VE HEARD SOME BUZZWORDS, UNITY, STRATEGIC, VISIONARY, AND I THINK THIS PLAN HAS THAT.

AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.

LET'S NOT SHELVE THIS.

LET'S USE THIS NOT JUST TODAY, BUT FOR THE NEXT 15, 20 YEARS.

AND I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY, AND I DO WEAR DIFFERENT HATS, I THINK PEOPLE KNOW THAT.

BUT I THINK AS WE LOOK OUT, UM, LET'S BE GOOD STEWARDS, NOBODY WINS WHEN THINGS GO TO THE COURTS, UM, LET'S NOT LINE LAWYERS' POCKETS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

SO I JUST, AS A STEWARDS OF THE COUNTY, LET'S LOOK AT THAT MOVING FORWARD.

UM, I'M HERE TO HELP WITH THAT AND SORT OF COORDINATE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

LET'S GET TO THE TABLE.

LET'S USE CIVIL DISCOURSE AND DIALOGUE TO SOLVE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE CRITICAL NEED ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

LET'S NOT PASS IT TO OUR FUTURE.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, SCOTT.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT ON STRATEGIC PLAN? HANG, HANG ON, BOB.

WE GOT SOMEBODY COMING UP.

OH, GO AHEAD.

NO, COME ON.

COME ON, RYAN.

I'LL FINISH.

GO AHEAD.

OH, COME ON, BOB AND FOR THE RECORD, 3 31 0 9 FEATHERSTONE DRIVE IN STONE CREEK.

UH, I COME BEFORE YOU COMMITTING YOU ON THE GREAT JOB YOU DID.

I, I WAS CO-CHAIR ON THE ROCKWELL CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, THAT WE DEVELOPED IN 2017.

I SPENT TWO YEARS ON THAT WORKING.

DANA WAS

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VERY, VERY MUCH AWARE OF IT.

IT'S A GREAT DOCUMENT, BUT I THINK I WOULD ESTIMATE YOU'RE ABOUT 20% THERE.

OKAY.

UH, GOALS, PLANS, NOW COMES IMPLEMENTATION AND METRICS.

AND THOSE ARE GONNA BE HARD TO DO.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU SAY, WE WANNA DO THIS, BUT THEN YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN HOW TO DO THAT.

WHO'S GONNA MONITOR IT, WHO'S GONNA OVERSEE IT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S VERY BENEFICIAL.

UH, IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT.

YOU NEED TO KEEP IT LIVING BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY OF ROCKWELL, THE LAST UPDATE WAS 2019, AND WE HAVEN'T DONE MUCH SINCE THEN.

THERE'S ALMOST 70% OF THE ITEMS, ACTUALLY ITEMS THAT ARE NOT UPDATED YET.

SO THEY MAYBE HAVE DONE 'EM, BUT THE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN REVISED.

SO, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID, LIVE THIS DOCUMENT, USE THIS DOCUMENT.

IT WILL BE ENFORCEABLE IF YOU CONSISTENTLY USE IT AND STICK TOGETHER WITH IT.

OKAY? UH, SOME EXAMPLES, AND I, I HAVE TWO OF THESE ARE GREAT.

THESE DID NOT BECOME ORDINANCES RIGHT AWAY.

I PROPOSED FRONT ENTRY GARAGES, 20 FOOT FRONT ENTRY DRIVEWAYS.

I LIVED ON MIRAMAR, 20 FOOT PEOPLE WERE PARKING ON THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE OF IT LENGTH.

WE INCREASED THAT TO 25 FEET AND IT BECAME ENFORCEABLE FOR DEVELOPERS.

IT WASN'T AN ORDINANCE YET, BUT WE ENFORCED IT.

EVERY TIME YOU HEAR A CITY DEVELOPER, DEVELOPER COME TO THE CITY, DOES IT MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? ORDINANCES ARE ONE THING, BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, IS ALMOST LAW.

AND THE SECOND THING WAS SIDE YARD EASEMENTS, FIVE FEET AIR CONDITIONING PEOPLE COULDN'T WORK IN THOSE SPACES.

RAIN AND STUFF MUDDY.

WE, WE ADDED 20% TO THAT.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO.

AND I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE ORDINANCES, YOU MAY NOT HAVE ET JS, BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, FOR YOU TO HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT YOU CAN USE AND ENFORCE EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT PART OF AN ORDINANCE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CITY OF ROCKWELL DID.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. WACKER.

RYAN, RYAN, BRECKENRIDGE, 2 0 7 CHARLESTON LANE FATE.

I WANTED TO GO, MAYBE LAST, 'CAUSE PART OF MY ROLE IN THIS HAS BEEN TO OFFER THE BENEDICTION.

IT'S SO MANY TIMES HERE, .

SO I'LL, UH, I'LL ATTEMPT TO DO THAT AS A FELLOW, UH, RESIDENT OF THE COUNTY AND AN INDIVIDUAL VOLUNTEER, UH, THAT HAS WORKED WITH MARK AND DANA IN OUR GANG OF FIVE BAKER TILLY, FREEZING NICHOLS VERY INTIMATELY FOR THE LAST 18 PLUS MONTHS.

UH, I WANTED TO STAND BEFORE YOU PUBLICLY AND OFFER, UM, MY SINCERE GRATITUDE FOR YOU GUYS, UM, AS A COURT FOR COMMISSIONER SEVER AND COMMISSIONER BAILEY, WHO INITIALLY SIGNED OFF ON IT.

UH, TO HAVE THE BOLD LEADERSHIP AND VISION TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO UNDERTAKE THIS PROCESS.

UM, IT HAS BEEN THOROUGH.

IT HAS BEEN DETAILED.

IT HAS BEEN A PIECE OF UNIFICATION THAT I DID NOT EXPECT TO SEE, UH, AT THE OUTSET, BECAUSE I'D NEVER DONE SOMETHING SO ROBUST LIKE THIS BEFORE.

UH, AS A VOLUNTEER IN BUSINESS, YES, BUT NOT AS A VOLUNTEER.

UM, I, I FOUND MYSELF AS A FATHER OF FOUR SCHOOL AGED KIDS.

MY OLDEST IS IN THE BACK TODAY GETTING A CIVICS LESSON, UM, OF TEACHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THE CONCEPT OF APPROPRIATENESS.

UM, AND THERE'S A TIME AND A PLACE FOR EVERYTHING.

AND I FEEL LIKE NOW IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THE COUNTY TO EMBARK ON IMPLEMENTING THIS PLAN.

UM, WE LIVE IN THE FASTEST GROWING AREA ON THE BUSIEST ROADWAY IN THE NATION, ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING STATES IN THE SECOND FASTEST GROWING COUNTY.

AND AS WE'VE HEARD TODAY, THAT'S LIKELY NOT CHANGING ANYTIME SOON.

SO HAVING A VISION AND A PLAN THAT GUIDES AND DIRECTS OUR FUTURE IS IN MY WORD APPROPRIATE.

UH, SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR DOING THAT.

UM, I WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF HUMOR, BUT ALSO SOME CONTEXT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

WE'VE HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT, UH, TO WITNESS COLLABORATION FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS AT THE COUNTY AND CITY LEVEL, COUNTY STAFF, CITY STAFF, STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LEADERS, COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS, BUSINESS OWNERS, ENTREPRENEURS, NON-PROFIT OPERATORS, PUBLIC UTILITY SERVICE OPERATORS, WRITERS, EDITORS, RESEARCHERS, ATTORNEYS, REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS, AND THE FEW WHO LIVE IN THE MIDDLE GROUND EDUCATORS, PUBLIC, PRIVATE, AND AT HOME.

MILITARY AND GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL.

AND FIVE OF THE SIX BRANCHES THAT I'M AWARE OF, I COULD BE MISSING ONE.

STAY AT HOME MOMS, YOUTH SPORTS, COACHING DADS, PHDS, MDS AND UNDERGROUND PLUMBERS, MINISTERS, CONSULTANTS, DEVELOPERS, KEYBOARD WARRIORS, ARCHITECTS, PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, ROOFERS, BANKERS, ENGINEERS, LAND DEVELOPERS, LAND PRESERVERS, UNIVERSITY SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS, TECH CONSULTANTS, FINANCE GURUS, RAILROAD OPERATORS.

YOU GET MY POINT.

UH, ALL WITH THE GOAL AND PURPOSE OF SHAPING AND INFLUENCING WHAT THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTY LOOKS LIKE.

UNITY IS THE BRAND THEME OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

UNITY ACROSS CITIES, PEOPLES, AND AGENDAS FOR OUR UNIQUE COUNTY.

IF WE DO IT RIGHT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO ENSURE, TO PROVIDE OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY, OUR RICH HERITAGE, AND

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OUR PURPOSEFUL FUTURE.

IN CLOSING, I'VE MENTIONED MANY TIMES TO PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

SOME OF YOU ARE IN THE ROOM.

THIS PLAN IS NOT ABOUT ME.

IT'S NOT ABOUT MARK, IT'S NOT ABOUT DANA.

IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU.

IT'S NOT ABOUT ANY OF OUR AGENDAS.

THE WAY I VIEW IT, THIS PLAN WAS BUILT FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME IN 2011 WHEN MY WIFE AND I WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO SET DOWN OUR ROOTS.

WE CHOSE ROCKWALL BECAUSE WE LIKED WHAT IT, WHAT IT WAS, AND WE BELIEVED WHAT IT COULD BE IN THE FUTURE.

AND WE STILL DO.

AND I BELIEVE THIS PLAN WILL PROVIDE THAT FOR US.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, RYAN.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? PLEASE COME ON UP A MINUTE TO GET THERE.

MY NAME IS CHUCK STALL, AND I LIVE AT 5 0 3 WEST WAY HERE IN ROCKWALL.

AND I'VE LIVED HERE NOW FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS.

SO YOU THINK, WELL, WHAT THE WORLD DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT? WELL, ANYWAY, UH, MRS. MCCULLOCH GAVE, GAVE ME, GOT ME A COPY OF THIS, AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH IT AND WEED IT OUT ABOUT 48%.

UH, BUT ANYWAY, UH, IN ONE OF THE PAGES, I THINK IT'S ON NUMBER 10, IT MENTIONS, UH, DESTINATION VENUES AND TOURISM.

I WANNA COME BACK TO THAT JUST BRIEFLY.

I, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK, ON PAGE 16, IT SAYS THAT WE SHOULD, YOU ALL SHOULD CREATE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADVISORY COUNCIL.

WHAT IS THAT? SOMEBODY TO TELL YOU ALL WHAT TO DO, ? I DON'T THINK SO, AND I DON'T WANNA BE ON IT ANYWAY.

THEN, UH, LET'S SEE.

UH, SINCE THE, UH, ROCK WALL IS IN THE NEWS THESE DAYS, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHO'S GONNA BE, WHO'S GOING TO HANDLE THAT SITUATION AND TRY TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH IT? DID YOU, IS ANYBODY, ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING COME UP ABOUT THAT? THAT'S THE CITY OF ROCKWALL.

CITY OF ROCKWALL.

WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

WELL, I'M IN, IN THE WRONG PLACE THEN.

I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO GO TO THEM ANYWAY.

UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEEN THE ROCK WALL IN PERSON AND, UH, IT IS SPECTACULAR.

AND THAT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE FOCUSES, IN MY OPINION, OF, OF THIS PLAN, WHICH I'LL NOW HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY TO FIGURE OUT, BECAUSE IT IS A TOURIST ATTRACTION.

COULD BE A TOURIST ATTRACTION.

AND, AND FRANKLY, I'M, I'M AMAZED THAT IT HASN'T BEEN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ROCK WALL AND THAT'S THE ROCK WALL.

IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AND NOBODY'S, TO BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, DONE MUCH ABOUT IT.

I KNOW IN THE PAST THERE WERE, UH, PLACES WHERE YOU COULD GO AND LOOK AT IT.

IT, IT COULD BE A PEOPLE PLACE.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE.

THANK YOU, CHUCK.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? JUDGE, MAY I JUST SAY ONE NOTE PLEASE? IF THAT'S OKAY? UM, SURE CAN I, I DIDN'T SIGN .

OKAY.

WE, WE, WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.

I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO SO MANY PEOPLE THAT, THAT CAME UP AND, AND GAVE THEIR, THEIR OVERVIEWS AND THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE PLAN.

AND, UM, IT TRULY WAS A, A, A WORK THAT, AS BRIAN AS RYAN SAID, IT WAS ABOUT UNITY.

WE BROUGHT UNITY TO THE, TO THE COUNTY FOR THIS PROJECT.

I WANNA PERSONALLY THANK, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT HELPED, HELPED ME.

WE, WE'VE IDENTIFIED MARK KIPPET, RYAN BRECKENRIDGE, CHRIS LYNCH, CAMMIE WEBB, AND JIM BARTOW.

THOSE ARE THE COUNTY, UM, UM, EMPLOYEES AND INTERESTED, UM, CONSTITUENTS OF THIS COUNTY.

AND I COULD NOT HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THIS ON BEHALF OF THIS COURT AND KEEPING YOU GUYS SO INVOLVED.

AND I, I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AT 9 49, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE

[3. Discuss/ Act on the Rockwall County Strategic Plan 2050, and all related issues; (Commissioner Macalik)]

ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE ROCK WALL COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN 2050 IN ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER M**K, REAL QUICKLY, UM, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP, UM, UM, MARK KIPP BROUGHT IT UP AND WE WANT, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE VERY IMPORTANT COMMENT THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER STACY MADE AT OUR LAST MEETING IN REGARDS TO REALLY THE NEXT 50%.

BECAUSE THE NEXT 50% ONCE THIS PLAN IS ADOPTED IS, IS THE IMPLEMENTATION MANAGEMENT PLAN.

AND I AM WORKING VERY CLOSELY RIGHT NOW, ALONG WITH CAMMIE AND SOME OTHERS INDIVIDUALS, SO THAT WE CAN GET TOGETHER AS A COURT, UM, FOLLOWING THE ADOPTION OF THE PLAN, AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ENSURE THE CITIZENS, UM, WHO, WHO, WHO, WHO HAVE

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APPROVED AND WHO HAVE SPENT THE TIME WITH THIS PLAN, THAT WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT.

WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH IT, AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.

AND IT'S, AS IT'S BEEN SAID, AND, AND WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO PIVOT MANY TIMES WHEN THINGS HAPPEN.

UM, AND, AND DIFFERENT CHANGES ARE MADE, WHETHER IT IS ON A LEGISLATIVE STANDPOINT, AS IT'S BEEN, AS IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP, WE WILL BE MAKING THOSE TYPE OF AMENDMENTS.

'CAUSE IT'S GOING TO, IT, IT, IT WILL, IT WILL HAVE TO CHANGE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT REALLY GOOD LEADERS DO, IS THEY PIVOT WHEN THEY NEED TO.

SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY ON THAT.

THAT WILL BE COMING UP AT OUR NE AFTER, AFTER THE ADOPTION, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS? NOPE.

WE'LL MOVE

[4. Discussion 89th Legislative Session Update/Overview County-related bills, and all related issues; (Commissioners Court)]

ON TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSION OF THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, UPDATE SLASH OVERVIEW, COUNTY RELATED BILLS AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

WHO WANTS TO START? OKAY, IT'S KIND OF THE DANA SHOW TODAY.

NOT REALLY.

NOT REALLY.

FIRE, FIRE WILL, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF LAUGHTER.

OKAY.

UM, I'M GONNA JUST GIVE A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW OF KIND OF THE BILLS THAT, UM, THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO COUNTIES AND, UM, IMPORTANT TO OUR CITIZENS.

SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN KIND OF SKIRTED AROUND THIS MORNING, BUT, UM, THE, THE 89TH, UM, LEGISLATOR, THEY, UH, THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED THEIR LARGEST BILL FILING IN THE STATE'S HISTORY, BY THE WAY.

UM, THE, WE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF BILLS, UM, THIS YEAR FROM THE 88 OF 88,153 TO 8,898.

AND THAT IS A 12.2% INCREASE IN BILLS.

JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT.

WELL, I, I MIGHT, I MIGHT AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT, BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A RECAP.

BUT, UM, YOU WILL SEE, AND THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, ON OUR AGENDA TODAY, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, UM, A LOT OF RECORD SETTING, RECORD SETTING, LEGISLATIVE ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING TO, UM, DEAL AROUND HOUSING AFFORDABILITY SUPPLIES.

OKAY.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES THAT THOSE TWO THINGS ARE, ARE TOP PRIORITIES FOR SO MANY COMMUNITIES ACROSS TEXAS, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT'S BEEN POINTED OUT THAT ARE IN FAST GROWING URBAN AREAS LIKE ROCKWALL.

UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF HIGH PROFILE HOUSING BILLS THAT THIS SESSION THAT ARE BEING TACKLED RIGHT NOW IN AUSTIN.

UM, SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE WORKING ON THAT, AND THANK YOU MR. LONDON FOR YOUR EFFORTS ON THAT.

BUT WE DO NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT BECAUSE IT IS DEFINITELY ADDRESSING, UM, TAKING AWAY LOCAL CONTROL.

YOU CAN CALL IT MANAGEMENT, YOU CAN CALL IT LOCAL CONTROL, BUT IT, THAT IS ONE THAT IS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT.

UM, ANOTHER, UM, UH, BILL THAT DID PASS TEXAS SENATE LAST WEEK IS SENATE BILL 19.

IT'S ALSO KNOWN AS THE SILENCE YOUR VOICES BILL.

AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT WILL LIMIT THAT, THAT WAS AIMED AT LIMITING THE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS FOR LOBBYING SPECIFICALLY AS IT, AS IT AS IT ENTAILS TWO COUNTIES.

UM, AT THE LAST MINUTE, UM, SENATOR NICHOLS, SHE WAS, UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO, UM, SIX OTHER COLLEAGUES, THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT, THAT DEFINITELY AS ADDRESSES AND AND SUPPORTS COUNTIES, WE WILL BE ABLE, IF YOU HAVE T TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY THE, UM, CONFERENCE OF URBAN COUNTIES, UM, THAT WE HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE FULL-TIME PAID EMPLOYEES, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO STILL BE OUR VOICES DOWN IN, UM, AT LEAST ON THE, ON THE SENATE SIDE.

THE, THE BILL WILL GO TO THE HOUSE.

NOW, UM, THE ONLY, THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS, AND I, I SEE, I SEE OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HERE, BUT THE ONLY BILL THAT WAS THAT WHERE YOU CAN STILL USE LOBBYISTS, UM, THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT WAS FOR THE SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION.

THEY WERE THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS EXEMPT FROM THAT BILL.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT TO US ANYWAY.

IT'S ALWAYS A WIN.

UM, LET'S SEE.

UM, WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT, AND I, I KNOW MY, MY COLLEAGUE HERE, WE MAY WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SENATE BILL 19.

UM, THAT, UM, THAT WAS, THAT DID PASS THE, THE, THE SENATE.

IT'S NOW HEADED TO THE HOUSE AND IT'S AIMED AT, UM, PROHIBITING POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS FROM USING PUBLIC FUNDS TO HIRE OKAY.

REGISTERED LOBBYISTS.

I'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

SORRY, I HAVE THESE ALL IN ORDER, SO YOU WANT ME TO STOP FOR A MINUTE AND LET YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE ONES THAT YOU WANT ME TO KEEP GOING? OKAY, Y'ALL SURE.

UM, WATER INFRASTRUCTURE BILL THAT, UM, THAT IS, THAT, THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, IT WAS HEARD YESTERDAY.

UM, AND IT'S SENATE BILL SEVEN, BECAUSE THAT ONE IS DEFINITELY A, AN IMPORTANT, UM, WE NEED TO, THAT WE NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO INVOLVE, UM, AVAILABILITY AND WHAT WATER LOOKS LIKE AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT AS, AS TEXAS CONTINUES TO GROW, AS WE'VE, AS THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP.

UM, SENATE BILL 15 IS, UM, IT AIMS TO, WE'VE ALREADY, I TALKED ABOUT THAT, THAT'S TIED IN WITH THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.

OKAY.

UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE?

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ANYTHING ELSE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT? UM, I KNOW THAT CHRIS LYNCH IS BACK HERE AND, UM, SENATE BILL 76, WHICH IS BY REP, BY SENATOR BOB HALL.

THIS ONE IS, UM, A, UM, VOTERS AS FAR AS COUNTYWIDE VOTING AND WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA TAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I DID CALL CHRIS YESTERDAY, UM, AFTERNOON JUST TO VISIT HOW THAT, HOW SOME OF THE HEARINGS WENT ON THAT, BUT THAT IS ONE THAT, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA MAKE IT IN, IN THE FORM THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE SOME CHANGES WITH, UM, COUNTYWIDE POLLING.

I'M LOOKING AT YOU, YOU'RE KIND OF CHECK SHAKING YOUR HEAD.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM YESTERDAY.

THAT'S IT FOR ME RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE SEVERAL MORE, BUT WE WOULD BE HERE FOR A WHILE.

UM, COMMISSIONER.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

WE, WE, WE HAVE THE ROOM.

WE HAVE THE ROOM.

SO WE, WE DO, YEAH, 8,800, ALMOST 8,900 BILLS FILED.

WE COULD BE HERE ALL DAY.

YEAH.

UM, I ALSO WANT TO THANK DENNIS LONDON, MAYOR BILLINGS FOR YOUR GREAT INVOLVEMENT IN AUSTIN.

IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

UM, WE, WE NEED TO GO DOWN AS, UH, AND TESTIFY IN FRONT OF COMMITTEES, UM, WITH BILLS THAT ARE IMPACTING OUR COUNTY AND OUR CITIES AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.

UM, IT DOES MATTER.

IT REALLY DOES.

THE MORE THAT WE TESTIFY, THE MORE THAT WE GET DOWN THERE, THE BETTER OUTCOMES WE'LL HAVE.

WE'VE BEEN LUCKY IN SOME REGARDS, IF YOU CONSIDER IT TO BE LUCKY THAT WE'VE BEEN BRACKETED OUT OF SOME OF THESE, UM, LOCAL CONTROL BILLS.

UH, THEY'RE SETTING THE, UH, THE STAGE KIND OF WHERE THE BRACKET IS, COUNTIES OF 300,000 OR CITIES OF 90,000 PLUS, UM, THAT THAT'S GOOD FOR THIS SESSION.

THAT'S GOOD FOR US.

BUT THAT'S JUST THEIR STARTING POINT.

THEY'RE REALLY AFTER 17 CITIES THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THOSE, BUT I WOULD JUST SAY YET WE'RE NOT ONE OF THOSE YET.

UM, SO THEY GET THE FOOT, GET THEIR FOOT IN THE DOOR THIS SESSION, AND, AND IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE THIS LEGISLATION WILL PASS.

UM, I DON'T WANT TO SUGARCOAT IT FOR ANYBODY HERE OR LISTENING.

IT'S GOING TO PASS.

IT IS PRIORITY, UM, FOR THE LEGISLATURE AND PRIORITY FOR OUR GOVERNOR.

SO THIS STUFF WILL PASS.

WE CAN ONLY HOPE TO AMEND IT RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.

WE HAD ANOTHER WIN, UM, YESTERDAY ON THE SENATE FLOOR WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAD, UM, SENATOR BETTENCOURT, UH, BRACKET US OUT OF A, UH, ANOTHER REALLY BAD LOCAL CONTROL BILL.

WE GOT, WE GOT LUCKY THAT WE HAD THAT ONE RAISED TO 300,000 FOR COUNTIES AGAIN, WHICH EXCLUDES US AND SHOULD EXCLUDE US FOR THE LONG HAUL, AS LONG AS WE'RE SMART.

UM, I DO WANNA SAY WE HAD A, SOME GOOD NEWS.

WE HAD SENATE BILL 28 78, FOLLOWED BY, UH, FILED BY SENATOR HUGHES, WHICH, UM, WILL CREATE THE 503RD DISTRICT COURT, UH, FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY, WHICH IS A HUGE NEED.

UM, IT'S SUCH A HUGE NEED THAT WE'RE ALREADY BUILDING THE COURT FOR THIS IN ANTICIPATION, UM, WHICH WAS A GREAT MOVE BY THE COURT BEFORE I GOT HERE.

SO I, UM, GET BEHIND THAT IF YOU CAN PLEASE.

UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, UM, IS WE'RE WORKING WITH REPRESENTATIVE PEARSON'S TEAM AND, UM, SENATOR LEACH WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THE OMNIBUS BILL THAT WILL HAVE THIS FUNDING IN IT FOR US, FOR THIS COURT.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, REPRESENTATIVE PEARSON TO MAKE SURE THAT LEACH'S BILL SENATOR, UH, REPRESENTATIVE LEACH'S BILL LOOKS THE SAME AS THE SENATE.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR A LOT OF THIS.

SO ONCE SOMETHING'S OUT OF THE SENATE AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE SAFE, JUST DON'T BE FOOLED BECAUSE IT'LL GO TO THE HOUSE AND THINGS WILL CHANGE, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO COME TOGETHER FOR A BILL.

SO JUST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN BRACKETED OUTTA SOME OF THESE BILLS, LIKE I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN THE SENATE, IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING YET REALLY.

IT'S JUST ONE WIN AND, AND A WAR.

AND SO WE'VE GOTTA KEEP FIGHTING.

UM, WE'VE GOTTA PAY ATTENTION TO THE HOUSE AND, AND, UM, WE'LL DO A, UH, OUR JOB OF KEEPING YOU UPDATED.

UH, BUT THINGS CAN CHANGE WHEN IT GETS TO THE HOUSE.

AND WE'RE HEARING THAT THINGS PROBABLY WILL CHANGE AND IT MAY NOT BE A GOOD CHANGE.

SO LET'S STAY INVOLVED.

AND ONE MORE.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LISA.

UM, CONSTANT WILEY, I APPRECIATE SHE SENT, UM, SEVERAL, UM, SEVERAL, UM, HOUSE BILLS, UM, AND SENATE BILLS FROM YESTERDAY.

UM, IN REGARDS TO, UM, PENSIONS, INVESTMENTS AND FINANCIAL SERVICES FOR COUNTIES.

THERE ARE SOME THAT COULD HAVE SOME NEGATIVE, SOME, SOME POSITIVE TO, TO THE COUNTIES.

SHE DID A GREAT WRITEUP.

I KNOW THAT I RECEIVED IT.

I THINK EVERYONE HERE ON THE COURT MAY HAVE RECEIVED HER, HER, THE OVERVIEW FROM THAT.

UM, I KNOW THERE, ONE OF 'EM IS ON HOUSE BILL 1453 THAT RELATES TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANTICIPATION NOTES AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION BY CERTAIN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

SO THAT'S ONE WE WE NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF AND MAKE SURE WHERE, WHERE THAT'S GOING.

AND THEN YOU ALSO HAD, UM, YOU HAD, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IT.

THE OTHER ONE, YOU, YOU, YOU WANTED US TO LOOK AT IN PARTICULAR DOES, I DON'T THINK THE ONE ON HOSPITAL DISTRICTS HAS A BIG IMPACT FOR ROCKWELL COUNTY.

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NO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME, SO THAT'S OKAY.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S ALSO, UM, THERE WAS SOME HEARINGS, UM, AND THAT IS BEING CHAIRED BY REPRESENTATIVE STAN LAMBERT.

SO IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, PLEASE FOLLOW THOSE THAT SHE SENT TO US, BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE STAY ON TOP.

AND WE, WE, WE, WE DON'T LET THAT AFFECT WHAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER ALSO.

YEAH.

JUST SO SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF THOSE BONDING BILLS THAT ARE OUT RIGHT NOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE GONNA RESTRICT THE KIND OF BONDS YOU CAN ISSUE, HOW YOU CAN ISSUE 'EM.

WHEN YOU CAN ISSUE 'EM, AND THEY'RE GONNA FORCE THEM ONTO THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.

SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE BILLS SAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PASS THOSE WITH A TWO THIRDS VOTE.

UM, AND THEN SOME OF THEM ALSO SAY THINGS, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT BILLS.

ONE SAYS, IF YOU HAVE A FAILED BOND, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FIVE YEARS.

YES.

UH, BEFORE YOU ARE ABLE TO, CAN YOU IMAGINE IF WE PUT UP A BOND, THERE WAS A DISAGREEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE HAD TO WAIT FIVE YEARS TO COME BACK TO BUILD A ROAD AND WHAT POSITION WE MIGHT BE IN AT THAT POINT WITH ROADS OR ANY OTHER BONDING ISSUE.

THERE'S ANOTHER BILL THAT SAYS THERE'S A TWO YEAR BAN.

SO THERE IS DEFINITELY AN APPETITE FOR THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN.

SO, AND WE CAN'T BUILD ROADS IN THE COUNTY WITHOUT BONDING, REALLY.

SO IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT, NOT POSSIBLE.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

YEAH.

UM, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK, UH, BOBBY AND DANA AND JOHN, I'M SORRY, OUR, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO'S WORKED SO HARD.

DENNIS LONDON, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN THERE.

MAYOR BILLINGS, MAYOR MCNEIL, SO MANY PEOPLE.

UM, I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH 8,898 BILLS.

OKAY? BUT I DO KNOW ONE THING, AND WE HEARD IT THIS MORNING, UH, FOR OUR COUNTY, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT IS BEING DEALT WITH IN AUSTIN IS THIS ISSUE OF LOCAL CONTROL.

AND AS SOMEONE REFERENCED, YOU CAN CALL IT LOCAL MANAGEMENT.

I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE THE POINT.

THE POINT IS THAT THE BEST GOVERNMENT IS THE GOVERNMENT THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE.

AND THAT WAS SPOKEN LONG AGO BY SOMEONE.

A LOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN ME.

BUT IT'S TRUE, AND I HEAR IT TODAY, BECAUSE WE HAD PEOPLE COME IN WHO LIVE IN OUR COUNTY.

MANY OF THEM, I'D SAY MOST, BUT I DIDN'T COUNT LIVE IN MY PRECINCT.

AND THEY KNOW WHERE TO FIND ME.

THEY KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ME.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I TRY TO RESPOND TO EVERY EMAIL, TRY TO RESPOND TO EVERY PHONE CALL, TRY TO TAKE EVERY PHONE CALL, TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE THE TRUTH, AND LET 'EM KNOW WHAT I, WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO.

UM, AND I WANT TO THANK, UH, REPRESENTATIVE PEARSON FOR HAVING PEOPLE HERE AND FOR WORKING WITH US AND FOR PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON.

BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND WHAT IT DOES, AND IT TALKS ABOUT COLLABORATION, AND IT SETS THIS VISION, WHICH I, THERE'S A PURPOSE STATEMENT IN THERE THAT SAYS, WE WANNA BE AN OASIS FROM THE OVERGROWN DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE METROPLEX.

OKAY? AND THAT'S A VERY, THOSE WORDS WERE VERY CAREFULLY CHOSEN, AND THEY WERE SELECTED BY THE PEOPLE, AND THEY WERE DIRECTED BY THE PEOPLE.

AND AS FAR AS LE THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THERE IS NOTHING THAT WILL DAMAGE THAT VISION MORE THAN SOME OF THIS LEGISLATION THAT'S ABOUT TO PASS OR BEING CON CONSIDERED.

SO, UM, I WOULD ADVISE EVERYONE WHO CAME HERE TODAY TO REACH OUT TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND YOUR SENATOR, STATE SENATOR, BECAUSE THEY WANNA HEAR FROM YOU.

I MEAN, THAT'S SHOWN BY THE FACT THAT REPRESENTATIVE PEARSON HAS TWO PEOPLE HERE THIS MORNING TO LISTEN TO THIS.

THEY WANT TO HEAR TO YOU, BUT REACH OUT TO THEM AND LET 'EM KNOW.

AND LIKE YOU HOLD EVERY ONE OF US ACCOUNTABLE.

HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BECAUSE IT'S THAT WE CAN ONLY ACT WITHIN THE LAW.

OKAY? AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SWORN TO DO.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO.

AND IF THE LAW NEEDS TO BE CHANGED OR NOT CHANGED, IN SOME CASES, LET THEM KNOW, BECAUSE WE WANNA PRESERVE THIS.

SO I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO A BIG LIST OF BILLS.

'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I CAN'T KEEP TRACK OF 8,898 BILLS, BUT I DO KNOW THIS.

I KNOW THE BIG ISSUE THAT'S FACING US, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT'S FIGHTING FOR IT.

WHETHER YOU'RE ON THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT WITH ME, OR YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE, WHETHER YOU'RE WRITING LETTERS OR YOU'RE GOING DOWN AND TESTIFYING, UM, IT'S ALL IMPORTANT.

AND LET'S KEEP FIGHTING FOR IT TO PRESERVE THIS WONDERFUL OASIS THAT WE HAVE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER STACY.

YEAH.

MY, UH, MY NOTE HERE SAYS I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT, BUT MY GOODNESS, WE JUST KEEP TALKING.

SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER ALANA, REAL QUICK.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SENATE BILLS.

WHY HAVEN'T WE TALKED ABOUT ANY HOUSE BILLS THAT HAVE PASSED? ? THERE MAY NOT BE ANY.

YEAH.

'CAUSE THERE'S ZERO .

UM, SO THAT MEANS THAT

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THE HOUSE HASN'T EVEN GOT TO WORK YET.

SO WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE SENATE PRIORITIES, UM, THAT ARE OUT THERE, UH, THEY'RE PASSING, BUT THE HOUSE HAS PASSED ZERO BILLS.

UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S 6,000 IN THE HOUSE.

UM, AND, UH, SO, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I, I CAN'T THANK, UH, SENATOR HALL AND, UH, REPRESENTATIVE PEARSON ENOUGH FOR THEIR EFFORTS ON SB 1994.

UM, AND, UH, ALSO, I THINK IT'S HOUSE BILL 44 0 4.

I, I, I TOOK NO NOTE, SO I'M SORRY, I WASN'T PREPARED TO, TO SPEAK ON THIS OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT I OBSESS OVER THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

UM, I DO WANNA JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD, UH, THAT I WAS IN AUSTIN LAST MONDAY, UM, FOR, ON TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, UM, I HAD A, UH, WASN'T ON PURPOSE, BUT I HAD ABOUT A 45 MINUTE CONVERSATION BETWEEN, UM, OUR REPRESENTATIVE KATRINA PEARSON AND HER CHIEF OF STAFF, UM, KAREN.

AND, UM, BEING IN THE HOUSE REPRESENTATIVE IS REALLY HARD.

UM, UH, BUT SHE HEARS US AND SHE UNDERSTANDS US, AND SHE IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO KEEP ROCKWALL ROCKWALL.

UM, PLEASE KEEP IN TOUCH WITH OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND THE STATE SENATOR BECAUSE THIS UNITY THAT HAS BEEN CREATED IS BEING HEARD.

UM, AND, AND, AND THERE ARE TRUE RESPONSES.

THERE'S BILLS FILED, THERE'S ACTIONS FROM OUR REPRESENTATIVES.

SO I JUST WANNA SAY THERE IS A, THERE IS A REAL EFFORT TO HELP US, UM, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED, UM, NECESSARILY IN THE PAST.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, JUDGE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OTHER THAN WE, WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

ROCKWALL COUNTY DOES HAVE POLITICAL MUSCLE, AND, UH, WE ARE STARTING TO FLEX THAT POLITICAL MUSCLE.

AND, AND THE WAY WE DO THAT IS THROUGH OUR UNITY, UH, WHICH SPEAKS VOLUMES, UH, IN, IN THE STATE CAPITAL.

SO WELL DONE EVERYONE, UH, CITIZENS AND, AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT ALIKE.

SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO AGENDA

[5. Discuss/ Act on updates and progress related to the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)]

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE COURTHOUSE COURTROOM EDITIONS, THIRD FLOOR PROJECT, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER ALANA SAL .

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, SO THE COURTHOUSE, UH, INFILL PROJECT IS CURRENTLY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

WE EXPECT THAT TO KIND OF TAPER BACK, UH, TOWARD THE END OF CONSTRUCTION.

THEY'VE KIND OF HIT IT REALLY HARD TO START WITH.

UM, THE NEXT POINT IS THAT THE TREASURER'S, UH, CORRIDOR IS STILL CURRENTLY IN DESIGN, SO THAT'S NOT BEEN PRICED JUST YET.

UM, SO THE PREVIOUS, UH, CHAINS THAT WAS APPROVED JUST FOR CLARITY, WHICH IS FOR DESIGN, NOT FOR CONSTRUCTION YET.

SO, UM, THAT IS STILL UNDER DESIGN AND THEN NEEDS TO BE PRICED, UH, BEFORE WE HAVE A FINAL PRICE ON THAT, UH, CORRIDOR CHANGE.

UM, THE NEXT PART, ALTERNATE ONE IS ALSO CURRENTLY BEING PRICED BY HILL AND WILKINSON.

THAT IS THE MILLWARE CHANGES, UH, FOR A DEDUCT ALTERNATE FROM BIDDING PROCESS.

UM, WE EXPECT THAT TO BE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN SAVINGS POTENTIALLY.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PRICE COMES IN FIRST.

UH, AND THEN THE LAST THING I HAVE IS SOME GOOD NEWS WITH ANOTHER CREDIT THAT WE HAVE.

SO, UM, THE ELEVATOR SHAFT CORRIDOR NEEDED TO BE, UM, CUT OUT IN ORDER TO HAVE ACCESS FOR THE DETENTION SIDE OF THE ELEVATOR.

UH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY FOUND TO HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WAS NEEDED IN THERE BESIDES THE PROGRAMMING, WHICH WAS A, A GOOD SURPRISE.

UM, SO THERE'S GONNA BE A CREDIT HELD, UM, AS AN OWNER'S CONTINGENCY RIGHT NOW FOR THE PROJECT, UH, UNTIL THE END IF WE HAPPEN TO STILL HAVE SOME CONTINGENCY AT THE END OF THE PROJECT THAT WE PULLED OUT AT THE LAST PAYOUT.

UM, BUT FOR NOW, WE'RE JUST GONNA KEEP THAT SAVINGS THAT WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THE PRICE IS ON THAT YET EITHER, BECAUSE THERE WAS STILL SOME PROGRAMMING COSTS FOR THAT ELEVATOR.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE IS SOME SAVINGS THERE THAT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED AT BIDDING.

SO, UM, GOOD NEWS.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SALVADOR? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[6. Discuss/ Act on updates and progress related to the American Rescue Plan monies and the planned County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

SIX, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONIES AND THE PLANNED COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STACY DEFLECTION IS IMMINENT.

YES, I WILL DEFLECT OVER TO NICO AND CHRISTINA , GET THIS PULLED UP.

WELL, GOOD MORNING, UH, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE STILL GOOD NEWS.

WE ARE ON SCHEDULE, AND, UH, WE ARE BELOW BUDGET WITH OUR CONTINGENCIES.

UM, NICO WILL GET OVER, UH, WILL SHOW YOU, BUT WE STILL HAVE CONTINGENCIES IN EXCESS OF A MILLION DOLLARS.

UM, THE, UH, PROGRESS IS GOING EXTREMELY WELL.

WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO BE READY FOR TOURS SOMETIME NEXT MONTH.

SO, UM, WE PUSHED IT A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF SCAFFOLDING IN THE BUILDING AND IT WASN'T QUITE SAFE ENOUGH FOR TOURS.

BUT WE'LL BE READY TO START TOURS IN, IN APRIL.

OKAY, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

AGAIN, MY NAME'S NICO PARKS, UM, BROUGHT US AND ASSOCIATES.

I'LL

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JUST GIVE YOU GUYS A BRIEF CONSTRUCTION UPDATE STARTING WITH SAFETY.

UM, THERE'S BEEN NO INJURIES OR NO INCIDENTS ON SITE TO REPORT ON THUS FAR.

UM, THE CRANE SET AND, UH, LIFTING LAST WEEK WENT SUCCESSFULLY.

UM, THEY ARE CONTINUING TO ENFORCE SAFETY ON, ON SITE EVERY DAY AND MAKE SURE IT'S A PRIORITY.

UH, AS CHRISTINA MENTIONED, UH, WE ARE PERFORMING UNDER BUDGET.

OUR ACTUAL COSTS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER OUR PLANNED COSTS, WHICH IS A GREAT THING.

UM, IT'LL BECOME MORE REAL ONCE WE START UTILIZING A, OUR OWNER ALLOWANCES FOR THE FURNITURE AND, AND IT EQUIPMENT.

UM, BUT WE'RE DOING, DOING REALLY GOOD.

AS IN TERMS OF BUDGET, UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY STILL PERFORMING ON SCHEDULE, UM, THE LAST FEW WEEKS SINCE WE LAST BRIEFED.

UM, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL NOTABLE ACTIVITIES THAT WERE COMPLETED ON SITE.

OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CRANE, THE RTUS WERE SET ON THE ROOF CURBS.

UM, THE CONDENSATE LINES HAVE HAVE BEEN INSTALLED TO THOSE RTUS AS WELL AS THE GAS LINES.

UM, THE OVERHEAD DOMESTIC WATER INSTALLATION IS COMPLETE, AND THEY HAVE PASSED THE FINAL INSPECTION FOR THAT.

AND ALSO THE WINDOW OPENING PREPARATION AND FLASHINGS HAVE STARTED INSTALLATION.

UH, SO STOREFRONTS IS UP NEXT.

UM, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, WE WILL, WE'LL BE PREPARING TO FINISH UP THE CONCRETE FLAT WORK, UM, INSTALLING THE STOREFRONTS.

UH, WE WILL BE WAITING ON ENCORE TO GET THEIR TRANSFORMER AND METER SET SO THAT WE CAN THEN CONNECT PERMANENT POWER AND, UH, CONNECT THE RTS AND HAVE THE AC ON.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF OUR CRITICAL UPCOMING ACTIVITIES.

UM, AS WELL AS, UH, IN TERMS OF QUALITY CONTROL, WE HAVE, UH, THE GAS PLUMBING INSPECTION COMING THIS WEEK, AND ALSO THE FIRE SPRINKLER INSPECTION.

UM, IN TERMS OF PROCUREMENT, UH, WE, WE HAVE THE AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH FOR THE GENERATOR ON SITE, SO THAT WILL INSTALL VERY SOON.

AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, THE STOREFRONT, UH, MULAN ARE ON SITE, AND SO WE'RE, UH, CRANKING AWAY AND THINGS ARE GOING VERY WELL.

UH, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A SEMI-RELATED QUESTION.

NICO, WHAT DAY AND TIME DO YOU HAVE YOUR JOB SITE MEETINGS? UH, ON WEDNESDAY.

WEDNESDAY AT, IT'S ONE O'CLOCK NOW.

WEDNESDAY AT ONE.

GOT IT.

YEP.

AND SO HERE'S A FEW PICTURES Y'ALL CAN LOOK AT.

SO HERE'S A GOOD, UM, ARIEL PHOTO OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON SITE.

THIS IS FROM MARCH 17TH.

UM, THAT'S THE BRICK AND STONES LOOKING VERY NICE.

THE SCAFFOLDING.

THERE'S THE RTUS THAT WERE SET LAST WEEK.

UM, THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES PORTION, UM, THAT THEY STARTED FRAMING OUT.

AND THEN THIS IS THE, UH, TRANSACTION DESK TO THE TAX OFFICE.

SO, YEP, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR NICO OR CHRISTINA? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU GUYS.

OKAY.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY, THEY KIND OF, EVERYONE HAS LEARNED THE MAGIC WORDS.

WE ARE UNDER BUDGET AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM

[7. Discuss/Act on the Sheriffs remodel project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

NUMBER SEVEN, DISCUSS AN ACT ON THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STA, BEFORE I PUNT, I JUST WANT TO TO SAY, UH, COMMISSIONER LTE, WE HAVE NOT, UM, FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE WORKSHOP.

UM, WE ARE WAITING TO GET, UM, A FINAL BUDGET AND PLAN TOGETHER SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE A WORKSHOP, IT'LL BE MEANINGFUL AND NOT PHILOSOPHICAL.

SO IT IS STILL ON THE AGENDA FOR US TO HAVE A WORKSHOP BEFORE THERE'S ANY VOTING ON WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT HAS NOT BEEN FORGOTTEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

WE JUST RECEIVED THE SCI 95% BUDGET LAST FRIDAY.

SO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME CORRECTIONS TO MAKE AND, AND, UH, REVISE AND RESEND TO ME BEFORE WE CAN KIND OF START TALKING MORE IN DEPTH, UH, QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ON THEIR PROPOSAL, UM, FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT YEP.

FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN WE CAN, I'LL REACH OUT TO COMMISSIONER STACY, AND WE CAN, UH, WE, WE

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ARE GET A MEETING SCHEDULED LIKE THIS CLOSE TO HAVING REAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT REMODEL, AND IT WILL START WITH THE WORKSHOP.

SO, UM, IN TERMS OF UPDATE, WE ALSO HAVE OUR SECOND PAGE TURNED TOMORROW TO REVIEW THE PRICING SET, UH, DRAWINGS THAT, UH, PARK HILL RELEASED, UM, IN TERMS OF TIMELINE WHERE, UH, TARGETING A HUNDRED PERCENT DRAWINGS FOR APRIL, BEGINNING OF APRIL, UH, AND TARGETING THE FINAL GMP FOR, UH, BEGINNING OF MAY.

SO THE BEGINNING OF MAY IS BEGINNING OF MAY, IS WHEN WE EXPECT, SO BASICALLY NEXT MONTH WE'LL HAVE A WORKSHOP, IS REALLY WHAT, WHAT THE ACTION ITEM TO TAKE AWAY.

WE WILL HAVE A WORKSHOP SOMETIME NEXT MONTH AND LAY THIS WHOLE PROJECT OUT.

YEP.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT WILL

[24. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

BRING US TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ROCKWALL COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS LISTED IN THE AGENDA ITEM IN THE ORDER DEEMED APPROPRIATE AS AUTHORIZED BY CHAPTER 5 5 1 OPEN MEETING, SUB CHAPTER D TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF ITS ATTORNEY.

WE WILL BE ENTERING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON REAL ESTATE MATTERS, RIVER ROCK, PRELIMINARY PLATS ADVICE COUNSEL, LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO OUTER LOOP FUNDING AND CONSTRUCTION AND ROAD BOND PROJECTS, RIVER ROCK PRELIMINARY PLATS, PROCEDURES FOR APPEAL TO COMMISSIONER'S, COURT OF INFRASTRUCTURE APPORTIONMENT.

AND AT 10 16, WE ARE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ALL RIGHT,

[25. RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION]

EVERYONE, IT IS 1150, WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION PURSUANT TO OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 5 5 1, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.001.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION TO TAKE ANY ACTION NECESSARY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND I WILL TELL YOU IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN.

THAT

[8. Discuss/ Act on River Rock Trails Preliminary Plat for Phase 1A; and all related issues; (Environmental Health Coordinator)]

BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSS AND ACT ON RIVER ROCK TRAIL'S.

PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR PHASE ONE A AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

CARISSA, YOU'RE DEFERRING TO THE, TO CONNOR OR TO THE APPLICANT.

ALL RIGHT.

TELL US WHO YOU ARE FOR THE RECORD.

CONNOR.

MORNING COURT.

MORNING JUDGE COMMISSIONERS CONNOR ROBERTS WITH FRIES NICHOLS.

WE'RE LOCATED AT 12 7 7 0 MERIT DRIVE, SUITE 900 DALLAS.

SO JUST A QUICK REMINDER FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, FRIES NICHOLS SERVES AS THE COUNTY'S TECHNICAL REVIEWER FOR MOST THINGS, PLATTING AND CONSTRUCTION PLAN RELATED.

SO, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THE LETTERS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET ARE, ARE FROM MYSELF ISSUED TO, UH, CARISSA ON THE COUNTY STAFF.

SO THIS IS SORT OF HOW OUR CADENCE GOES BACK AND FORTH IN TERMS OF OUR REVIEWS.

JUST A QUICK REMINDER, UH, THIS IS THE FIFTH FORMAL ITERATION OF THE PHASE ONE A PLATS.

AND, AND JUDGE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, YOU'LL NOTICE A LOT OF THE COMMENTARY AND ISSUES PER PREVAIL ALONG THE ALL FOUR PLAT APPLICATIONS.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ADDRESS 'EM? WE'RE DOING, TRYING TO KEEP THEM SILO.

UNFORTUNATELY, SINCE THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA ITEM AS SEPARATE ISSUES, WE, WE HAVE TO KEEP ONE A UNDERSTOOD.

SEPARATE FROM ONE B FROM UNDERSTOOD.

UNDERSTOOD.

SO THIS IS THE, THE FIFTH FORMAL ITERATION OF PHASE ONE.

A COURT HAS ACTED ON THIS IN THE PAST, UH, A FEW TIMES.

ACTUALLY.

UH, YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE COMMENT LETTER, THE INITIAL DATE OF OUR LETTER IS MARCH 17TH.

THAT'S WHEN THE PACKET'S DUE.

YOU WILL SEE A REVISED HIGHLIGHT MARCH 20TH.

THAT'S IN RELATION TO A, UM, RESPONSE THAT THE APPLICANT TEAM PROVIDED.

AS IT RELATES TO THE OVERALL DRAINAGE STUDY.

THEY PROVIDED THAT TO US ON THE 17TH.

SO OBVIOUSLY COULD NOT GET THAT TURNED AROUND IN TIME FOR THE PACKET.

BUT YES.

COMMISSIONER, WHEN WILL THAT LETTER BE SENT? TODAY? THAT IS, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS SHARED WITH YOU.

I THAT, YEAH, I'VE SEEN IT.

OKAY.

THAT IS, BUT WHEN WILL IT BE SENT? SENT TO WHOM? COMMISSIONER TO THE DEVELOPER.

THAT WAS, THAT IS ONE THING.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS FREEZING NICHOL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO SEND THAT IF IT WAS THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY.

WE WERE ADVISED NOT TO SEND THAT QUITE YET.

UM, BUT I, WELL, SHOULD BE IN YOUR, IN YOUR COMMUNICATIONS AHEAD OF THE MEETING.

I WOULD SAY ONCE YOU SEND THAT TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL MM-HMM .

COORDINATOR, THEN SHE WILL SEND THAT TO THE OKAY, UNDERSTOOD.

YES.

YES.

AND IT HAS BEEN SHARED WITH ALL THE COUNTY STAFF, JUST SO YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS YOURSELVES.

CAN YOU SEND THAT BACK, UH, WITH TODAY'S DATE? UM, I SURE CAN.

ALL FOUR OF THOSE.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

UHHUH .

SO WITH THAT JUDGE, THERE'S NO FORMAL PRESENTATION REALLY ON MY END.

I'M JUST HERE TO HELP OUT AS BEST I CAN.

JUST A REMINDER, I'M, I SERVE AS A COUNTY LAND USE AND CITY LAND USE PLANNER.

UH, SO I HAVE A, I HAVE A TEAM OF TECHNICAL REVIEWERS BEHIND ME THAT, THAT HELP US REVIEW FOR TECHNICAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

UH, SO WITH THAT THROUGH OSMOSIS, I'LL ANSWER AS BEST I CAN AND, AND HELP YOU OUT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CONNOR?

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I, I HAD JUST ONE QUESTION WITH ONE A.

OKAY.

UM, AND I'M LOOKING THROUGH THE LETTER DATED MARCH 20TH.

UM, IN THE PAST, YOU, UH, YOUR COMPANY HAS MADE MENTION OF INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AND I DON'T SEE ANY MENTION OF IT IN YOUR LETTER.

UM, AND I'M JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS THAT.

NO.

SO YOU HAVEN'T MISSED THAT COMMISSIONER.

SO WHAT, AGAIN, THROUGH THE DIFFERENT CADENCE AND ITERATIONS OF THE APPLICATIONS AS THEY COME IN, THAT WAS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS LOCKED IN ON THE PHASE ONE B APPLICATION.

SO YOU SEE THAT ON THE, ON THE GENERAL CONDITIONS AND DISCLAIMERS OF THE PHASE ONE B APPLICATION.

BUT SINCE THE PHASE ONE A HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY ACTED ON, UM, WE, WHAT WE BASICALLY DO, JUST AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE, WE TAKE WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ACTED ON BY THE COURT AND THEN REASSESS THOSE CONDITIONS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH IT AS ADDITIONAL ITERATIONS COME THROUGH.

SO THAT'S ALL.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE PHASE ONE B PACKET IS A LITTLE BIT LARGER.

A FEW MORE EXHIBITS RELATED TO THAT ITEM SPECIFICALLY.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'VE SORT OF TAKEN A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHY I PROMPTED MY QUESTION AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS ON HOW YOU'D LIKE TO HANDLE THAT.

SO, OKAY.

MM-HMM .

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? WOULD, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING TO THE COURT ON, ON, ON ONE A? YEAH.

UH, JEFF MILES REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON THIS, UM, I GUESS WE'D LIKE TO COPY OF THAT.

SURE.

MARCH 20TH LETTER.

I GOT ONE.

THAT'S MARCH 17TH.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT SAYS ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY IN THERE, BUT WE NEED A COPY OF THAT, UH, I BELIEVE CONNOR AND, AND, AND OUR ENGINEER IN AGREEMENT ON ALL THE ITEMS THAT HE HAD IN HIS LETTER.

AND WE'VE MET ALL THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR PLATTING AND YOUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

SO WITH THAT, WE ASK YOUR, UH, APPROVAL.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

JEFF.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING WITH US.

I, I DISAGREE THAT ALL THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD, THIS IS THE PLACE TO GO INTO THAT.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT TWO REAL BIG ISSUES THAT I JUST WANT TO MENTION.

IT DOESN'T LIMIT MY VIEW ON THIS, BUT IT'S, IT INFLUENCES IT.

ONE IS WATER.

UM, WE WERE PROVIDED WITH A LETTER FROM BLACKLAND WATER SUPPLY, WHO'S I THINK PRESIDENT IS HERE.

THAT, IN MY OPINION, IS NOT A COMMITMENT TO SERVE WATER.

IT'S A COMMITMENT OR IT'S A LETTER THAT SAYS THEY CAN PROVIDE IT IF CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE MET.

THEN THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS ALSO FORWARDED TO US FROM THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, AN AGREEMENT WITH BLACKLAND, WHICH PROVIDES AN ANNUAL MAXIMUM SUPPLY OF WATER OF 302,490 GALLONS PER YEAR, WHICH I CALCULATE TO BE ABOUT 824,223 GALLONS A DAY, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS ADEQUATE TO SERVE YOUR FACILITY.

AND I UNDERSTAND IN THE LETTER THAT WE GOT FROM BLACKLAND THAT IT SAID YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS AND FROM YOU HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THEM WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THEY'RE NOT DONE YET.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THE, THE WATER IS SERVED TECHNICALLY.

UM, THERE'S ALSO AN EMAIL FROM NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLY, WHICH WAS SENT BY BLACK LAND, WHICH SAYS ESSENTIALLY OUR CONTRACT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AND REFERENCES THE ANNUAL MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE.

UM, AND THEN GOES ON TO SAY, I DUNNO IF I CAN FIND THIS LITTLE EMAIL GOES ON TO SAY, IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR US TO PROVIDE A LETTER SPEAKING TO SPECIFIC RETAIL CUSTOMER DECISIONS.

SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WATER REAL BIG THAT IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT THERE.

UM, SECOND, WE HEARD THIS MORNING FROM THE MAYOR OF MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM, WHO SAYS THAT THERE'S NOT A FIRE PROTECTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU AND, UH, BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY OF MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM.

AND THE WHOLE BASIS FOR OUR ABILITY TO MAKE RULES HERE IS THAT WE CAN MAKE RULES BASED UPON THE HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, OR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.

NOTHING MORE SIGNIFICANT IN SAFETY, I DON'T THINK.

THEN FIRE PROTECTION.

AND WE HEARD THE MAYOR MCCLENNAN,

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CHM SAY THERE IS NOT FIRE PROTECTION AGREEMENT.

SO, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO, UH, POINT BY POINT WITH YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU HAVE MET ALL THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS.

PLEASE, I'LL, I'LL LET SCOTT CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON THE WATER, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, WE HAVE TWO PLATS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE YOU.

ONE A, ONE B, 400 PLUS OR MINUS LOTS.

THERE'S PLENTY OF WATER THAT NORTH TEXAS HAS TO SERVE, THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA COMMIT TO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING AT THIS POINT.

WE'RE NOT GONNA DEVELOP ALL THE WATER IMPROVEMENTS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S READY TO GO CONCURRENTLY.

THAT'S WHEN WE BUILD THOSE WATER IMPROVEMENTS.

THERE IS EXISTING CAPACITY RIGHT NOW IN BLACKLAND SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO SERVE OUR PROJECT, INCLUDING OUR FIRST 400 LOTS.

SO THE WATER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE NEW TAKE POINT WITH NORTH TEXAS AND, UH, THE DEVELOPER BUILDING ON BEHALF OF BLACK BLACKLAND AND THEN TURNING OVER TO BLACKLAND FOR THEM TO OPERATE IS FOR A LONGER TERM PROJECT.

UH, THAT INCLUDES THIS DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS RIGHT IN THAT SAME AREA.

SO THIS IS NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GO BUILD 35, $40 MILLION WORTH OF WATER BEFORE WE GO GET A PLAT APPROVED.

SO THAT'S A, THAT'S NORMAL COURSE OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO I DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OPINION ON THAT, BUT I DISAGREE AS FAR AS THE AGREEMENT FOR THE EMERGENCY SERVICES AND FIRE.

WE DO HAVE A VALID AGREEMENT.

AS MUCH AS THEY SAY IT'S NOT, WE'LL LET THE ATTORNEYS FIGHT THAT OUT.

OKAY? BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ADVISED BY OUR ATTORNEY THERE IS A VALID AGREEMENT.

BUT EVEN IF YOU SAY WE DON'T HAVE A VALID AGREEMENT, THE COUNTY'S REQUIRED TO SERVE THAT AREA THROUGH MCLENNAN CHISHOLM BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR FIRE ZONE.

AND I DON'T THINK YOU WANT US TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING THEM MONEY AND WE'RE BUILDING THEM A FIRE STATION.

BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM, THE COUNTY STILL HAS AN OBLIGATION TO SERVE, JUST LIKE YOU'RE SERVING HIGH POINT AND EVERY OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OUT IN THE COUNTY.

SO WE SWEETENED THE DEAL BY ACTUALLY BUILDING FACILITIES, PAYING THEM MONTHLY FEES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE.

BUT IF NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE THAT, THEN WE'LL JUST RELY ON THE COUNTY'S AGREEMENT TO HAVE MCLENNAN CHISHOLM SERVE THAT AREA.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE COUNTY'S AGREEMENT EXCLUDES MUDS, UM, THE, THE, THE ESC HAS MADE THAT DETERMINATION.

CAN, CAN WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT AGREEMENT PLEASE? AND SENT TO US SURE, SURE.

THAT IT SAYS EXCLUDES MUDS.

SURE, SURE.

I, I, I, I WILL FIND THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER? I'LL SPEAK ON THE WATER TOO, IF I CAN.

CAN I DO THAT? YEP, PLEASE.

AS JEFF SAID, OR NEIL HORTON SAID THE CURRENT ONE A AND ONE B WILL BE FACILITATED THROUGH OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH ROCKWALL.

SO WE CAN FACILITATE THAT, THAT BUILD INITIALLY THE LONG TERM WILL BE OUR NEW AGREEMENT WITH NOR TEXAS AND NOR TEXAS WILL NOT SINGLE OUT DEVELOPMENTS BASED OFF, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET IN THE POLITICAL AS POLITICAL ASPECT OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

I TALKED TO RJ ROSKI AND THEY WON'T DO THAT.

THE ASSURANCE IS THROUGH OUR CURRENT CONTRACT, AND SO OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, THE ALLOCATION OF WATER FROM NORTH TEXAS WILL BE AS WE GROW, THEN THAT CONTRACT INHERENTLY WILL BE AMENDED TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING DOWN SOUTH TO 34.

THERE IS AVAILABLE WATER DOWN ON 34 TO FACILITATE THE GROWTH WITHIN OUR DISTRICT, NOT JUST FOR HORTON, BUT FOR ALSO OUR CURRENT CUSTOMERS, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER GROWTH WITHIN, UM, THAT PART OF OUR DISTRICT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MUCKER? ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DISAPPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT APPLICATION FOR PHASE ONE A BASED UPON LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2 32 1 0 1 A, WHICH AUTHORIZES THE COUNTY TO CREATE RULES WHICH READS TO PROMOTE THE HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, OR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COUNTY, AND THE SAFE, ORDERLY, AND HEALTHFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE COUNTY AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE PROVISIONS AND THE

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DEVELOPER'S FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE RULES AND REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THE ROCKWALL COUNTY SUBDIVISION LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ONE.

ALL MATTERS SPECIFIED IN THE LETTERS FROM FREEZE AND NICHOLS INCORPORATED TO THE DEVELOPER DATED MARCH 17TH, 2025, AND THE REVISED LETTERS TO BE DATED, I GUESS AS OF TODAY, STRIKE, I GUESS, TO BE DATED MARCH 25TH, 2025, WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN SATISFIED AS OF THIS DATE.

TWO ISSUES AND THE BASIS SPECIFIED IN SECTION 3.2 0.4 OF THE COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION THAT THE SUBDIVISION DOES NOT HAVE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO WATER AND THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MAY ENDANGER PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR WELFARE.

THREE, THE FAILURE OF THE SUBDIVIDED OF THIS PROPERTY TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF SEC SECTION 2 32 0.03, TWO OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE FOUR, NONPAYMENT OF APPORTIONMENTS AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 2 32 0.10 A OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 3.6 OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS FOR NON-COMPLIANCE WITH OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION ONE POINT 10 OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

AND THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DOES HEREBY AUTHORIZE ITS COUNSEL TO SEND A LETTER TO THE DEVELOPER WITH RESPECT TO THIS DISAPPROVAL AS REQUIRED BY LAW.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TY.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

STACY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THE MOTION TO DISAPPROVE IS ON THE TABLE IF EVERYBODY WILL REGISTER THEIR VOTES.

IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

OKAY.

THAT BRINGS US

[9. Discuss/Act on River Rock Trails Preliminary Plat for Phase 18; and all related issues; (Environmental Health Coordinator)]

TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, DISCUSS AN ACT ON RIVER ROCK TRAILS, PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR PHASE ONE B AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

MR. CONNOR? THANK YOU, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO LAST ITEM.

THIS IS THE, WOULD BE THE SECOND SORT OF SUB PHASE OF PHASE ONE.

UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THE, THE RECOMMENDATION LETTER IN THERE, OR OUR DETERMINATION LETTER, I SHOULD SAY A FEW MORE EXHIBITS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE MARKUP AND, AND THE APPORTIONMENT DISCUSSION THAT CAME ALONG WITH PHASE ONE B.

SO, AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR CONNOR? ALL RIGHT.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT.

DAVID, DO YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? DAVID BOOTH WITH THE DR. HORTON.

JUST ONE QUICK COMMENT.

I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND CONNOR'S SENDING Y'ALL CORRESPONDENCE, BUT HE'S NOT COPYING US.

SO WHEN WE'RE HELD TO THE LETTER OF ANSWERING TO A LETTER BY CONNOR, WE CAN'T RESPOND 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT.

SO I I JUST THINK IT'S A VERY INEFFICIENT WAY TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT I THINK THE LETTER YOU, YOU WON'T OBJECT TO THE REVISED LETTER.

OKAY.

JUST MY GUESS.

WELL, AND YOU'RE NOT AN ENGINEER, THAT'S WHY FNI IS HIRED.

THEY'RE REVIEWING IT FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT.

THE WATER ISSUE, THE FIRE ISSUE, THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION COMPLIANCE.

MM-HMM .

IF WE FOLLOW THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, THEN WHY IS IT A HEALTH SAFETY? AND I, I FORGOT THE OTHER TERMINOLOGY YOU USED WELFARE.

WELFARE.

WHY IS THAT A CONCERN? BECAUSE FOR THE REASONS I OUTLINED.

BUT IF WE FOLLOW YOU AGREE.

WE'RE FOLLOWING THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

NO, I DON'T.

HE DOES.

WELL, THAT'S NOT HOW I TAKE HIS LETTER TO READ.

OKAY.

IF YOU READ HIS LETTER, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES SPECIFIED THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SATISFIED AS OF TODAY.

YEAH.

AND WE HAD A MEETING WHERE WE WENT THROUGH THAT LETTER, UH, ANOTHER COPY OF THAT LETTER, AND WE FOUND OUT THAT 99% OF THOSE ITEMS SAID THEY'RE GONNA BE ADDRESSED IN THE ENGINEERING PLANS.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS 'EM NOW AND NOT IN THE ENGINEERING PLAN? I'M AGAIN, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT THE TECHNICAL REVIEWER HERE HE IS, BUT I'D LIKE YOUR OPINION ON THAT QUESTION.

YEAH, I'M SAYING THAT THEY'RE, IN MY OPINION, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SATISFIED AND I DON'T WANNA PROVE A PLAT UNTIL ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.

I JUST WANNA POINT TO CONNOR AND HAVE HIM RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION IF I COULD.

DO WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT? 'CAUSE YOU'RE THE TECHNICAL REVIEWER HERE, SO YOU, YOU, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME ANSWER THAT.

UM, APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH.

WELL, TH THANK YOU.

COME, COME CONNOR AND, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT THIS BOARD IS, THIS

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COURT IS THE DECISION MAKING BOARD.

UH, AND, AND THERE'S A LOT IN THAT LETTER THAT, UH, I WOULD CHARACTERIZE AS WE'RE GONNA SOLVE LATER, UH, TYPE ISSUES.

SO I, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION FROM MR. BOOTH.

AND, AND YES, I WOULD CONCUR THAT WHAT WE DID WHEN WE GOT THESE APPLICATIONS, VERSION NUMBER ONE, WE CAST A WIDE NET.

WE IDENTIFIED ISSUES, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS A PRELIMINARY DOCUMENT.

THE COUNTY'S REGULATIONS DO REQUIRE PRELIMINARY STUDIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHICH WE, THE REVIEW TEAM HAVE DEEMED AS SATISFACTORY AT THIS MOMENT.

THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVEN'T PARTICULARLY REMOVED SOME OF THOSE INITIAL ITEMS THAT ARE ON THERE, BUT WE HAVE ACQUIESCED AND COMMITTED TO IN WRITING THAT WE DO FEEL THAT THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN SET IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO HANDLE SOME OF THESE.

SO, AND THAT'S IN RELATION TO REALLY ALL FOUR PLAT ITEMS. AND I, I PLAN TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION STRIKINGLY SIMILAR TO MY LAST ONE.

AND WHAT YOU'LL SAY HERE IS THAT I REFERENCE ITEMS IN YOUR LETTER THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SATISFIED TO DATE.

IF ITEMS ARE SATISFIED, THEY'RE SATISFIED.

YES.

AND, AND, AND I WOULD STATE WE ARE, WE'RE IN SOMEWHAT OF A NOVEL TERRITORY HERE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A DEVELOPER ATTEMPTING TO BUILD A CITY OUT IN THE COUNTY, AND WE HAVE A COUNTY THAT'S ILL-EQUIPPED TO HANDLE THINGS THAT NORMALLY A CITY HANDLES.

AND, AND IT HAS BUDGET IMPLICATIONS.

WE'RE HAVING TO COME UP WITH AN ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO HANDLE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

SO WE'RE IN SOMEWHAT OF A NEW TERRITORY.

AND I UNDERSTAND HISTORICALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH CITIES, YOU DO THAT.

THERE'S THINGS THAT AREN'T, UH, ADDRESSED IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT YOU ADDRESS LATER IN A CONSTRUCTION OR ENGINEERING SET OR IN, IN A FINAL PLAT.

THIS IS NEW TERRITORY FOR THE COUNTY.

THIS IS NEW TERRITORY FOR THIS DEVELOPER.

BUILDING A CITY OUT IN THE COUNTY IS A NEW THING.

NN NOBODY, NOBODY'S DONE THAT.

SO THE COUNTY, AGAIN, WE'RE IN NEW, NEW TERRITORY A AS WELL.

SO WE'RE GONNA PROCEED SLOWLY AND WE'RE GONNA PROCEED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS, UH, VERY, VERY CAUTIOUSLY.

AND JUDGE, COULD I JUST ONE MORE, ONE MORE THING ON THAT PLEASE, PLEASE.

AND ABSOLUTELY WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, THIS THAT'S CORRECT, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT LIES WITH, WITH YOU AS A BODY TO ACT ON.

SO JUST OUR ROLE IN THIS, JUST A REMINDER, IS JUST TO PROVIDE OUR, OUR TECHNICAL RECOMMENDATION.

SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THIS IS, THIS IS YOUR ITEM TO CONSIDER.

UH, AND SO I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT ANY, ANY DEFICIENCY THAT IS IDENTIFIED, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, THAT MY TEAM, THE APPLICANT'S TEAM, YOUR TEAM, GET ON THE RIGHT PAGE ABOUT HOW CAN WE GO ABOUT RECTIFYING THAT ISSUE.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD ASK.

IT'S THE TECHNICAL REVIEW TEAM, AND I KNOW WE'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WE ALWAYS HAVE.

SO JUST ANYTHING ELSE I CAN, I CAN PROVIDE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

WE'RE ON ITEM NINE NOW, RIGHT? WE ARE ON ITEM NINE.

YES, SIR.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DISAPPROVE THE RIVER ROCK TRAILS PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR PHASE ONE B BASED UPON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2 32 1 0 1 A, WHICH AUTHORIZES COUNTY TO ADOPT RULES, UM, FOR, TO PROMOTE THE HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, OR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COUNTY WITH THE SAFE, ORDERLY, AND HEALTHFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE PROVISIONS AND THE DEVELOPER'S FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE ROCKWELL COUNTY SUBDIVISION AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, ALL MATTERS SPECIFIED IN THE FREEZE NICHOLS LETTERS TO THE DEVELOPER DATED MARCH 20 17TH, 2025, AS THOSE LETTERS WERE REVISED DATED MARCH 25TH, 2025, WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN SATISFIED AS OF THIS DATE.

TWO ISSUES AND BASIS SPECIFIED IN SECTION 3.2 0.4 OF THE COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, THE SUBDIVISIONS NOT HAVE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO WATER AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT MAY ENDANGER PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR WELFARE.

ITEM THREE, FAILURE OF THE SUBDIVIDED OF THIS PROPERTY TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 2 32 0.032 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE FOUR NON-PAYMENT OF APPORTIONMENTS IS REQUIRED BY SECTION 2 32 0.10 A OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE IN SECTION 3.6 OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

AND FIVE, NON-COMPLIANCE WITH OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION ONE POINT 10 OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

AND THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DOES HEREBY

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AUTHORIZE ITS COUNSEL TO SEND A LETTER TO THE DEVELOPER WITH RESPECT TO THIS DISAPPROVAL AS REQUIRED BY LAW.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTE SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU WILL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW? IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT BRINGS

[10. Discuss/ Act on River Rock Trails Preliminary Plat for the Wastewater Treatment Plant; and all related issues; (Environmental Health Coordinator)]

US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.

WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS AN ACT ON RIVER ROCK TRAILS, PRELIMINARY PLA FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

BACK TO YOU CONNOR.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THANK YOU.

COURT.

SIMILAR TO THE LAST TWO ITEMS, UH, THIS IS A APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE, UH, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN SITE AS IT RELATES TO TWO PHASES, ONE A, ONE B, AND THE FUTURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS IS THE SECOND ITERATION THE COURT HAS SEEN THIS APPLICATION.

UH, THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THAT VERSION TWO LISTED THERE.

UH, WE'LL POINT OUT JUST A COUPLE TECHNICAL ITEMS, UH, ON THROUGH THE REVIEW THAT ARE RELATED TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT DETAILS THEMSELVES.

UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY COULD BE CLEANED UP JUST QUICKLY FROM THE APPLICANT.

UH, ALL OTHER CONDITIONS ARE, ARE RELATIVELY SIMILAR TO OUR PREVIOUS, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE, PLEASE.

ITEM NUMBER 13.

YES, YOU'RE CITING SECTION 5.82 C AND 7 2 2 G.

BUT THEN YOU STATE THAT IT, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, THAT, THAT IT CAN BE DONE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN.

TECHNICALLY, WHEN SHOULD WE BE TRYING TO GET A LOW MAR MM-HMM .

IF THERE IS DEVELOPMENT IN A FLOODPLAIN, SHOULD WE NOT PUT THAT TO SOME SORT OF PLATTING? WHY ARE WE WAITING? WHY, WHY IS FRIESA NICHOLS RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION SET? WHEN I THINK WHEN I READ OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, IT POINTS TO PLATTING AND NOT CONSTRUCTION? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO A LMER LETTER OF MAP PROVISION ISSUED BY FEMA, UH, REALLY COMES AFTER AN IMPROVEMENT IS MADE.

SO YOU GET YOUR CLOER BASED ON THE DETAILS.

ONCE THOSE ARE INSTALLED, YOU ACTUALLY GET THE LMER.

SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ISSUE THE LMER FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REALLY EXIST.

AND SINCE THIS IS A PRELIMINARY STAGE, UM, THERE, THERE REALLY IS NO IMPROVEMENT TO BASE IT ON.

SO REALLY WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND, AND AGAIN, REMEMBER, THE APPLICANT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUBDIVIDE PROPERTY.

THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT DOES NOT SUBDIVIDE PROPERTY.

THE FINAL PLAT ULTIMATELY IS WHAT WOULD SUBDIVIDE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, 5.2, 5.82 C IS STATING SHALL NOT BE PLATTED UNTIL THEY'VE RECEIVED THE LETTER OF MAP REVISION IS SAYING THAT WOULD BE, TAKE US FROM THE PRELIMINARY PLAT STAGE TO THE FINAL PLAT STAGE.

THAT'S CORRECTION, WHICH IN THE MIDDLE IS A CONSTRUCTION.

THAT IS CORRECT.

IT ALSO SAYS IN 7 9 4 THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SHALL APPROVE OF THE FLOOD STUDY FOR ANY POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH INSIDE A FLOODPLAIN.

MM-HMM .

WHY ISN'T THAT PART OF YOUR TECHNICAL ANALYSIS THAT YOU WRITE IN THIS LETTER? SO AGAIN, I THINK, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST A MISSTEP ON, ON WHEN WE, AS THE TECHNICAL REVIEWERS, YOU KNOW, ARE PROVIDING THE REVIEW AND DOCUMENTATION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.

SO IN OUR EYES AND HOW THIS IS HOW WE TYPICALLY APPROACH THINGS AT THE PRELIMINARY PHASE, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A PROOF OF CONCEPT APPROACH.

SO THERE, THERE ACTUALLY IS NO DEVELOPMENT IN THE FLOODPLAIN CURRENTLY.

CORRECT.

AND, AND SO WHAT WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT IS THE OVERALL DRAINAGE STUDY, THE ADDENDUM PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT DATED MARCH 17TH.

UH, THAT ACCOUNTS FOR, FOR UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS.

UH, WE SEE THE PROOF OF CONCEPT THERE AND UH, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I'LL WORD IT ON WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT AS THINGS GET SURED UP THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN REVIEW, WHICH IS AN EXTENSIVE REVIEW, IS WHAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THAT IS WHAT WOULD END UP FUELING, UH, ANY SORT OF PERMITTING, UH, THROUGH EXTERNAL AGENCY, INCLUDING THIS, THIS LOANER PROCESS.

SO, SO I JUST, UH, I AM NO ENGINEER.

I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE AN ENGINEER.

I NEVER TOOK AN ENGINEERING CLASS.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS COMMENTARY MM-HMM .

BUT IT IS RATHER STRANGE THAT INSIDE A FLOODPLAIN WE'RE PUTTING A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT DISCHARGING WATER, CREATING FLOOD OF SOME SORT.

I GET THAT IT CAN BE ENGINEERED.

I'M JUST SAYING FROM A, FROM A COMMENTARY STANDPOINT, THEY'RE GOING INTO A FLOOD PLAIN.

YOU'RE TAKING ALL THE WATER AND DISCHARGING IT OUT OF THAT FLOODPLAIN, AND WE'RE SOMEHOW CLAIMING WE'RE DOING NOTHING.

THAT JUST SEEMS ILLOGICAL.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S WRONG, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S RIGHT.

I'M JUST SAYING IT SEEMS SOMEWHAT ILLOGICAL AND I THINK WE NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME AT LEAST GETTING ME TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S, HOW'S THAT POSSIBLE THAT, THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

AND, AND AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT TODAY.

WE DON'T HAVE TO LEGISLATE TODAY.

I JUST FEEL THAT THAT SEEMS VERY ILLOGICAL AND ODD TO ME THAT

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THAT WOULD BE THE PLAN AND THAT WE WOULDN'T NEED ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER IT'S BUILT AND GOING.

THEN WE WOULD SAY, OKAY, COOL, LET'S DO A FLOOD STUDY.

LET'S, SHOULDN'T THERE BE SOME, AGAIN, I'M NOT SPEAKING TECHNICALLY, I'M JUST MAKING COMMENTARY.

SHOULDN'T THERE BE A LOT MORE WORK SATIATED IN THE BEGINNING BECAUSE IT'S A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT GOING INTO A FLOODPLAIN AND DISCHARGING WATER.

I JUST FEEL LIKE YOUR COMMENTARY OF WAITING FOR CONSTRUCTION SEEMS ODD.

NOW, IT COULD BE ODD.

WE COULD, OUR HANDS COULD BE TIED AND THAT COULD BE HOW IT WORKS.

I'M STATING COMMENTARY.

I'M NOT TRYING TO STATE AN ARGUMENT OR A LEGAL ARGUMENT OR A TECHNICAL ANALYSIS.

IT JUST FEELS STRANGE THAT WE'RE IN THE FLOODPLAIN DOING THIS AND YOU SAY, WAIT TILL IT'S BUILT BEFORE WE STUDY IT.

SHOULDN'T WE STUDY IT BEFORE WE START DISCHARGING THE WATER? UNDERSTOOD.

AND I DO WANNA, OKAY, I'M JUST SURE.

I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

OH, NO, YOU'RE FINE.

COMMISSIONER.

I DO WANNA MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION.

I DO BELIEVE THE DISCHARGE OF THE TREATMENT PLANT IS A FACTOR CONSIDERED IN THE OVERALL DRAINAGE STUDY, AND I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK CLOSER TO THAT.

BUT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF, OF THE STUDY THAT WAS PROVIDED.

SO IT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST COMPLETELY DISMISSING.

I UNDERSTAND.

IT FEELS A LITTLE, LITTLE ODD.

I KNOW THAT WE WANT THE ANSWER NOW, RIGHT? AND THEN, AND, AND, AND IDEALLY THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, I JUST, I HOPE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, IT'S SORT OF OUR TYPICAL APPROACH.

IT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST THAT THESE ARE SORT OF THE PROOF OF CONCEPT STAGES.

WE MOVE FORWARD AND OBVIOUSLY WE'LL AFFIRM, UH, STRICT COMPLIANCE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO TYPICALLY, UM, HOW MANY CITIES DEVELOPED OUT IN THE COUNTY? HAVE YOU, UH, HAVE YOU DONE THE TECHNICAL COMPLIANCE REVIEW FOR? WE, WE'VE REVIEWED SEVERAL MUDS IN OUR TIME.

ME, OUR TEAM SPECIFICALLY HAS HELPED ROCKWELL COUNTY WITH A FEW AT THIS POINT.

UM, AND SO, YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, BUT AS FAR AS TYPICAL GOES, THIS IS NOT A RIGHT, NOT A STANDARD, UM, TYPE ENDEAVOR.

UNDERSTOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING AGAIN? WE'RE ON, WE'RE ON AGENDA ITEM 10, WASTEWATER TREATMENT.

RIGHT.

JUST TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, JEFF MILES AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THE EXPERTS OVER HERE THAT DID THE FLOOD STUDY, THE WATER FROM THE WASTEWATER PLANT, WHICH IS A VERY MINUTE AMOUNT OF WATER COMPARED TO A RAINSTORM, IS INCLUDING THAT STUDY.

WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT ENTIRE STUDY FOR YOUR REVIEW AND MEET WITH YOU SEPARATELY IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH IT.

I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

I WOULD, I WANNA UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT.

IT GIVES ME A LOT OF PAUSE.

OKAY.

AND REGARDING THE LMER, WHAT CONNOR SAYS IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

THE PROCEDURES THAT THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM HAS PUT TOGETHER IS WE GO STEP BY STEP.

THEY'VE, THEY ACTUALLY, THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM SETS RULES OF WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO IN THE FLOODPLAIN.

THE COUNTY AS THE FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR FOLLOWS THOSE RULES.

THE ENGINEERS ARE AWARE OF THE RULES AND THE PROCESS THAT HE LAID OUT IS THE EXACT PROCESS THE LMER IS ISSUED ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IS DONE.

SO TWO OTHER ITEMS. I KNOW YOUR MOTION MAY OCCLUDE IN THIS ONE.

OH, NOT MEETING OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO MEET THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS? WE HAVE RECEIVED YOUR REPORT, UM, FROM THE COMMISSION, UH, THAT APPROVED THE OPEN SPACE ALLIANCE, UM, UH, ACTION ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DONATE TO THEM, AS WELL AS THE DISCUSSIONS REGARDING TRAILS.

NONE OF THOSE AFFECT PHASE ONE A OR ONE B OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE TRIED TO MEET WITH THE OPEN SPACE ALLIANCE AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY TO MEET THE OPEN SPACE ALLIANCE, UM, UH, TO START DISCUSSING F FUTURE PHASES.

SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO MEET THAT PARTICULAR THING.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, JEFF, YOU MET WITH US AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'VE TOLD YOU THAT BEFORE.

IT WAS A GREAT MEETING.

UM, YOU SHOULD MEET WITH THEM.

WHEN I SAY THIS DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, I KNOW IN YOUR LETTERS, I THINK IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IT SAID THAT THERE'S NO OPEN SPACES IMPACTED, BUT I KNOW THAT OPEN SPACE ANALYSIS SAYS THERE SHOULD BE ACCESS TO TRAILS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY.

AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE FOR THESE 400 AND HOW 40, HOW MANY HOMES THAT WOULD'VE PROVIDED FOR THAT.

WE'RE PROVIDING OPEN SPACES, WE'RE GONNA BUILD SIDEWALKS AND CONNECTIONS OVER THAT ARE ALL IN THE ENGINEERING PLANS.

THEY, WHICH IS THE NEXT STEP OF REVIEW.

SO THAT'S ALL PART OF THE NEXT PROCESS.

MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK AND UNDERSTAND BETTER, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THESE PLANS OR IN THIS, THEY WOULDN'T BE IN THIS PLAN.

THEY WOULD BE IN THE NEXT STEP IN THE ENGINEERING PLANS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING REGARDING APPORTIONMENT, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT LATER ON,

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ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY.

HOWEVER, THERE'S NOTHING IN YOUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TO SAY APPORTIONMENT HAS TO BE WORKED OUT BEFORE A PRELIMINARY PLAT IS APPROVED.

IN FACT, YOUR CONSULTANT HAS SAID THAT THE APPORTIONMENT FEES OUGHT TO BE PAID BEFORE THE FINAL PLAT.

SO HIS, YOUR CONSULTANT HAS SAID THAT AS WELL.

WELL, IT'S INTERESTING POINT BECAUSE SECTION 3.1, 0.6 OF OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, AND I KNOW YOU DISAGREE WITH ME ON THIS, BUT IT SAYS, IN ADDITION TO THE INDIVIDUAL APPROVAL CRITERIA LISTED PER SUBDIVISION TYPE, THE SUBDIVIDED OR DEVELOPER SHALL PAY THE APPORTIONMENT OF COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS AS AUTHORIZED BY TLGC 2 32 1 POINT 10, AND SECTION FIVE POINT 10 OF THESE REGULATIONS PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF A PLAT FILED WITH THE COUNTY.

OKAY? AND THEN IT TALKS GOBO TALK ABOUT APPORTIONMENT OF COSTS.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE SENT A LETTER DISAGREEING WITH OUR APPORTIONMENT AND THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT PROCEDURES FOR APPEAL OF THAT.

BUT THE WAY I READ THIS, YOU NEED TO PAY THOSE IN ADVANCE.

YEAH.

SO WHY WOULD, AS A BUSINESS PERSON, JUST LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER, WHY WOULD WE GO PAY FEES TO THE COUNTY BEFORE WE GOT A PLAT APPROVED IN MIL IN THE, IN THE TUNE OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

DOES THAT MAKE, THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

UM, AND WHEN THEY USE THE WORD PRIOR TO A PLAT BEING FILED WITH THE COUNTY, WE TAKE THAT AS FI PRIOR TO A FINAL PLAT BEING RECORDED AT THE COUNTY COUNTY OF RECORD, WHICH IS NOT DONE UNTIL THE END OF THE PROJECT.

THANKS.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

UM, THIS IS REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 10.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DISAPPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BASED UPON LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2 32 0.101 A, WHICH AUTHORIZES COUNTY RULES TO PROMOTE THE HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COUNTY AND THE SAFE, ORDERLY, AND HEALTHFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE COUNTY AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE PROVISIONS AND THE DEVELOPER'S FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN THE ROCKWELL COUNTY SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT, LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ONE, ALL MATTERS SPECIFIED IN THE FREEZE NICKELS LETTERS TO THE DEVELOPER DATED MARCH 17TH, 2025.

AND AS THOSE LETTERS ARE REVISED DATED MARCH 25TH, 2025, WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN SATISFIED AS OF THIS DATE.

UM, TWO ISSUES AND BASIS, UH, SPECIFIED IN SECTION 3.2 0.4 OF THE COUNTY'S SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

UM, THREE, FAILURE OF THE SUBDIVIDED OF THIS PROPERTY TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 2 32 0.0 32 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

CODE FOUR NON-PAYMENT OF PROPOR APPORTIONMENTS AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 2 32 0 1 OH A OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION SIX OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND FIVE NON-COMPLIANCE WITH OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION ONE POINT 10 OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

AND THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DOES HEREBY AUTHORIZE ITS COUNSEL TO SEND A LETTER TO THE DEVELOPER WITH RESPECT TO THE DISAPPROVAL OF THIS AS REQUIRED BY LAW.

WE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TY.

I'LL SECOND WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

STACY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THAT BRINGS US

[11. Discuss/ Act on River Rock Trails Preliminary Plat for Remainder of River Rock Trails; and all related issues; (Environmental Health Coordinator)]

TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, DISCUSS AND ACT ON RIVER ROCK TRAILS, PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR REMAINDER OF RIVER ROCK TRAILS AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THANK YOU.

COURT.

THIS IS, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE, THE AREA ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PLAT IS REALLY THE WHOLE PROPERTY.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS REMAINDER TRACT IS A, IS A EFFORT TO CONFIRM THAT THE REMAINDER OF THE TRACTS, UH, CLOSES AND ITS LEGAL DESCRIPTION, UH, AND THAT IT'S, UH, NOT A ILLEGAL SUBDIVISION BY MEETS AND BOUNDS AS COULD BE CONSTRUED BY PLATTING A PORTION OF A LARGER TRACT.

SO I BELIEVE THAT WAS BORN OUT OF SOME EARLY COMMENTARY FROM US AS IT RELATES TO PHASE ONE

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A AND ONE B, UH, WHERE A PORTION OF A LARGER TRACT WAS OUTSIDE OF THE PLAT BOUNDARY.

UM, WE'VE CONSIDERED THAT TO BE A SUBDIVISION BY MEETS AND BOUNDS.

THE REMAINDER TRACT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, IS A EFFORT TO SURE THAT UP AND THAT IT COULD BE EVOLVED OVER TIME AS FUTURE PHASES ARE DEVELOPED AND REVISED.

I'LL LET THE APPLICANT ALSO SPEAK TO THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THE RIGHT UNDERSTANDING.

BUT AGAIN, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR CONNOR? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT? NO.

NOPE.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE.

UM, DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU CON OR THE APPLICANT.

OKAY.

BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE FIRST THREE PLATS, PRELIMINARY PLATS HAVE BEEN DISAPPROVED, UM, DOES THE DEVELOPER OR APPLICANT WANT US TO CONSIDER THIS FOURTH ONE? YES.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

OKAY.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 11, MAKE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE REMAINDER OF RIVER ROCK TRAILS BASED UPON LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2 32 0.101 A, WHICH AUTHORIZES COUNTY RULES TO PROMOTE THE HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, OR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COUNTY AND THE SAFE, ORDERLY, AND HEALTHFUL DEVELOPMENT OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY, UH, AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE PROVISIONS AND THE DEVELOPER'S FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE ROCKWELL COUNTY SUBDIVISION AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, UH, REGULATION REGULATIONS, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ITEM ONE.

ALL MATTERS SPECIFIED IN THE FREEZE NICHOLS INCORPORATED LETTERS TO DEVELOPER DATED MARCH 17TH, 2025.

AND AS THAT LETTERS ARE REVISED DATED MARCH 25TH, 2025 OF 2025, UH, THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SATISFIED AS OF THE STATE TWO, ANY ISSUES IN BASIS SPECIFIED IN SECTION 3.2 0.4 OF THE COUNTY'S SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

THREE.

UM, FAILURE NON-PAYMENT OF APPORTIONMENTS AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 2 32 0.10 A OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION THREE SIX OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

UM, FIVE NON-COMPLIANT.

FOUR NON-COMPLIANCE WITH OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION ONE POINT 10 OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, UM, AND FAILURE OF THE FIVE, FAILURE OF THE SUBDIVIDED OF THIS PROPERTY TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 2 32 0.032 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DOES HEREBY AUTHORIZE ITS COUNSEL TO SEND A LETTER TO THE DEVELOPER WITH RESPECT TO THIS DISAPPROVAL AS REQUIRED BY LAW.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GUANO.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW THE MOTION PASSES.

FIVE TO ZERO.

OKAY.

I KNOW I PROMISED WE WOULD, WE WOULD GO TO LUNCH AFTER THIS AND I HATE TO GO BACK

[19. Discuss/Act on County procedures for appeal to Commissioners Court of infrastructure apportionment determinations, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)]

ON MY WORD, BUT I WANT TO JUMP TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19 REAL QUICK AND, AND WRAP THAT ONE UP BEFORE WE GO TO LUNCH.

SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE FROM 11 TO TO 19 AND WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS AN ACT ON COUNTY PROCEDURES FOR APPEAL TO COMMISSIONER'S, COURT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, APPORTIONMENT DETERMINATIONS, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER LTE.

UM, IN THE RESPONSES TO THE PRELIMINARY PLATS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, AS YOU KNOW, WE MADE APPORTIONMENT, UH, UH, AN APPORTIONMENT OF COSTS WAS SENT OUT AS PERMITTED BY STATE LAW AND THAT WAS SENT FROM OUR, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS OBJECTED TO THOSE APPORTIONMENTS AND HAS NOTIFIED US THAT THEY WANT TO APPEAL THEM IF WE DON'T AGREE WITH THEIR CONCLUSIONS.

UM, SECTION 2 32 0.110 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT OF CODE PROVIDES THAT IF A DEVELOPER DISPUTES THE DETERMINATIONS THAT IT MAY APPEAL TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF THE COUNTY.

UM, AND THIS IS TO BE BASED UPON PROCEDURES ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

AS OF THIS DATE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS NOT ADOPTED PROCEDURES, UH, WHICH WOULD BE SERVED IN THE CASE OF SUCH AN APPEAL 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD AN APPEAL BEFORE.

SO WE HAVE, UH, ASKED OUR COUNSEL TO PREPARE PROCEDURES FOR SUBDIVISION PROPORTIONALITY APPEAL,

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AND THIS WILL BE IN ACTUALLY IN ADDITION TO OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATION SECTION 6.2 0.7.

THESE WERE PASSED OUT TO YOU, UH, AND CIRCULATED WITH YOUR PACKET.

UH, OUR ATTORNEY HAS REVIEWED THEM.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS OR NOT, CHRIS, HE'S SAYING, SHAKING HIS HEAD NO, HE DOES NOT WANT TO.

UM, YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THIS.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING, AND I WANNA MAKE ONE CHANGE TO THIS.

SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PROCEDURES FOR SUBDIVISION PROPORTIONALITY APPEAL, UH, AND THE ATTENDANT AMENDMENT TO SECTION 6.2 0.7 OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AS PRESENTED BY OUR COUNSEL, CHRIS BOWERS, WITH ONE CHANGE SECTION 6.27 A ONE AT THE END OF IT, WHERE IT SAYS, WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE RECEIPT OF A WRITTEN APPEAL, I WANT TO SAY COMMA, OR WITH RESPECT TO APPEALS FILED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THESE PROCEDURES WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE APPROVAL OF THESE PROCEDURES.

OKAY, HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT IS APPROVED FIVE TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WHEN WE COME BACK, WE WILL BE ON AGENDA ITEM 12, BUT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ABOUT AN HOUR BREAK FOR LUNCH.

IT'S 1235 NOW WE'LL RECONVENE HERE AT 1 35.

SO, UH, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

IT'S, UH, IT IS ONE 40.

WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO OPEN

[12. Discuss/Act on approving a Proposal with Mobile Communications America (MCA) for a DMP Alarm for security for the Adult Probation building, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy - Maintenance Director)]

SESSION AND WE'RE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A PROPOSAL WITH MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS AMERICA MCA FOR A DMP ALARM, FOR SECURITY, FOR THE ADULT PROBATION BUILDING, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STACY AND MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR.

YEAH, SO WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS, UH, GETTING A DIAL OUT ON THE PANIC BUTTONS.

UM, IT'S, UH, $1,430.

UM, WE DO HAVE FUNDS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS REQUEST IS.

BARRY'S HERE IF Y'ALL HAVE MORE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S THE BASIC OUTLINE OF WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS.

SO A DIAL OUT MEANS IT GOES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.

I BELIEVE IT'LL HIT THE SAME SERVICE THAT MONITORS THIS FOR OUR OTHER FACILITIES, WHICH IS SOUTHWEST DISPATCH, BUT YES.

UM, THAT IS NOT IN THE BUILDING, AND THEY DID NOT QUOTE THAT, UM, IN THE ORIGINAL, UM, PROJECT.

SO THEY QUOTED PANIC BUTTONS THAT, UM, WE'LL, WE WILL, I MEAN, YOU CAN PUSH THE BUTTON, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA CALL ANYBODY.

THEY'LL, THEY'LL MAKE A, MAKE A SOUND.

YEP.

OKAY.

I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.

ARE THERE ANY ONGOING FEES FOR THIS? IT SAYS LIKE 1400 BUCKS, BUT I BELIEVE THIS WILL ADD TO FEES OR SOMETHING.

I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A MONTHLY FEE FOR THE MONITORING.

I DO NOT HAVE THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT IT WILL GO WITH THE OTHER, UH, AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH, UM, SOUTHWEST DISPATCH, I BELIEVE.

AND COMMISSIONER STACY CAN VERIFY THAT.

THAT'S AGENDA ITEM 13.

NOPE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING.

OKAY.

I'LL ASK ABOUT THAT LATER.

OKAY.

SO AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THERE'S NO MONTHLY ONGOING FEES OTHER THAN A ONE TIME.

THERE WILL BE, I I THINK THERE WILL BE.

I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT FEE.

THIS IS JUST THE INSTALLATION OF SAID DIALER.

OKAY.

BUT I, I CAN FIND OUT AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU.

OKAY.

WELL, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL NEED TO APPROVE THAT.

AND I THINK WHERE COMMISSIONER TY'S GOING AND WHERE I WOULD WANT TO GO TO MAKE A, A $1,400 PURCHASE AND THEN THEN HAVE 14 HE HAVE IT.

I COULDN'T FIND IT.

$1,400 OBVIOUSLY IS IT'S, BUT I, EVERYTHING NOW YOU BUY, IT SEEMS YOU GOTTA PAY SOME MONTHLY SUBSCRIBER FEE OR SOMETHING.

I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT NO, NO, SIR.

THAT IS NOT, NO, IF THERE IS A MONTHLY FEE, IT IS JUST GOING TO BE TO THE MONITORING COMPANY TO MONITOR, UH, OKAY.

THE SYSTEM.

AND DO WE ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM TO MONITOR? WE, WE DO.

THEY MONITOR ALL OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES.

THIS ONE, UH, THE NEW COURTHOUSE, THE LIBRARY AND THE SERVICES BUILDING.

YES, SIR.

SO THIS, THIS THING THAT YOU INCLUDED IN HERE, THAT'S GROUP A MONITORING QUANTITY 60 FOR $25 A MONTH.

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IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE EXISTING? SO THEY'LL ADD TO THAT.

OKAY, GOTCHA.

SO WE CAN ASSUME WORST CASE, ANOTHER $25 A MONTH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE NEED ME HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ? WELL, I HADN'T MADE THE MOTION.

.

FIRE, FIRE WILL COMMISSIONER M TRUST ON YOU.

THAT'S IT.

I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PROPOSAL WITH THE MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS AMERICA MCA FOR A DMP ALARM FOR SECURITY FOR THE ADULT PROBATION, UM, BUILDING.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K.

I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW? MOTION IS APPROVED.

FIVE TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA

[13. Discuss/Act on approving a Proposal with Mobile Communications America (MCA) to install a Feenics Base License, for security at the Adult Probation building, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy - Maintenance Director)]

ITEM 13.

DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING A PROPOSAL WITH MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS AMERICA MCA TO INSTALL A PHOENIX BASE LICENSE FOR SECURITY AT THE ADULT PROBATION BUILDING AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STACY.

UM, BRIEFLY, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO TIE, TO SEND TO THE LIBRARY.

UM, WE HAVE SINCE CHANGED THE PLAN AND THIS MAKES IT A STANDALONE ACCESS CONTROL IN ADULT PROBATION.

AND IT'S FOR, UH, $1,336 AND 40 CENTS.

WHAT IS A PHOENIX BASED LICENSE? I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE SOFTWARE FOR MANAGING, UH, THE ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEM FOR A CARD SWIPE.

UM, WE ALREADY HAVE THIS IN PLACE AT THE LIBRARY.

SO THE, THE VENDOR HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S CLOUD BASED, SO THERE'S NO REASON WHY YOU, YOU CAN'T JUST USE THE EXISTING SYSTEM.

IT'S GONNA TIE UP SOME BANDWIDTH WITH THE COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE LINE BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS OF, UH, ISSUES THAT IT DIDN'T, UM, THINK WOULD BE GREAT TO DO IT THAT WAY.

SO THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE MOVE TO THIS WHERE IT IS ALL STANDALONE.

UM, BUT IT'S BASICALLY JUST THE SOFTWARE LICENSE FOR THE CARD READERS.

I, AND I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALREADY DOING THIS LICENSE AND THIS LICENSE, AND WE ARE, BUT THEY'RE ALL SEPARATE SYSTEMS. WE WE'RE DOING, UH, CARD READERS AT THE DOORS FOR ACCESS CONTROL.

WE'RE DOING CAMERAS.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THE ALARM BUTTONS, THE PANIC BUTTONS THAT ARE, THAT GO OUT TO, UH, THE MONITORING COMPANY.

SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THREE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO ONE SYSTEM, BUT THEY ALL HAVE THEIR SEPARATE LICENSES.

DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? , THAT MAKES NO SENSE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY ACCURATE.

I, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

THANK YOU.

THAT GOT ME ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY'S SO INCLINED.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE A PROPOSAL FOR MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS AMERICA TO INSTALL A PHOENIX BASED LICENSE FOR SECURITY AT ADULT PROBATION, THE AMOUNT OF $1,336 AND 40 CENTS.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GUANA.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

BRINGS US TO AGENDA

[14. Discuss/ Act regarding approval of Contract Modification No. 3 to the Contract for Cedar Creek Watershed Site 3 Repair in Rockwall County, Texas, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)]

ITEM 14, DISCUSS AN ACT REGARDING APPROVAL OF CONTRACT MODIFICATION NUMBER THREE TO THE CONTRACT FOR CEDAR CREEK WATERSHED, SITE THREE REPAIR IN ROCKWALL COUNTY AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

ALRIGHT, UM, WELL, WE'RE, THE COUNTY IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT TO IMPROVE THIS LAKE NUMBER THREE NRCS LAKE.

NUMBER THREE, THEY'RE NOT GETTING IT DONE WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD.

AND AS YOU SAW IN THERE THAT WE'RE ADDING 56 DAYS, THAT'S WHAT THIS CONTRACT MODIFICATION IS.

IT DOESN'T INCREASE THE COST AT ALL.

BUT THOSE 56 DAYS, UH, WERE NECESSARY DUE TO HOLIDAYS THAT WEREN'T SCHEDULED AND 52 WEATHER DAYS THEY HAD.

SO AS YOU'LL SEE, THEY WANNA REVISE THE END DATE TO MAY 17TH, 2025 AT NO ADDITIONAL COST.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT MODIFICATION NUMBER THREE FOR THE CONTRACT FOR CEDAR CREEK WATERSHED.

SITE NUMBER THREE, REPAIR IN ROCKWALL COUNTY, TEXAS.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TY.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

M**K, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THAT BRINGS US

[15. Discuss/Act on awarding contract for Cedar Creek Watershed Site 13, Structural Repair of Dam, Rockwall County, Texas, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)]

TO AGENDA ITEM 15, DISCUSS AN ACT ON AWARDING THE CONTRACT FOR CEDAR CREEK WATERSHED.

SITE 13, STRUCTURAL REPAIR OF DAM, ROCKWALL COUNTY, TEXAS, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

OKAY.

IF YOU ALL REMEMBER A FEW MEETINGS AGO WE HAD A

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APPROVED GOING OUT FOR BIDDING AND DOING AN RFP ON THIS.

THIS IS THE REHABILITATION ON OR STRUCTURAL REPAIR, I'M SORRY.

THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

STRUCTURAL REPAIR OF DAM AT NRCS LAKE 13.

UM, WE GOT THE BIDS IN, AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE DETERMINATION OF RESPONSIBILITY.

OUR ENGINEER ESTIMATED THAT WE'D BE SPENDING 1.4 MILLION TO DO THIS.

IT'S ACTUALLY 900.

THE BID CAME IN AT 996030% UNDER THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, WHICH IS VERY GOOD.

AND WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE BIDS WE GOT.

WE GOT SEVEN BIDS, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

WE GOT SEVEN BIDS AND WENT THROUGH 'EM ALL.

UH, BEAVER'S CONTRACTING WAS NOT ONLY THE LEAST EXPENSIVE, IT WAS ALSO THE BEST QUALITY BID.

AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE.

YOU SEE IN YOUR PACKET THERE NOT ONLY WORK THAT, WELL ACTUALLY NOT OUR COUNTY, BUT THE PEOPLE WE'RE WORKING WITH HAVE DONE STUFF WITH THEM BEFORE.

A BUNCH OF REP, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THERE DO QUALITY WORK.

UM, AND SO I WOULD RECOMMEND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE ACCEPT THAT BID AND ALLOW THEM TO GO UNDER CONTRACT.

YOU ALSO SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A PACKAGE YESTERDAY THAT ATTACHED THE CONTRACT.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

AND, AND I WOULD, I DO WANT TO ADD THAT, UH, THE, UH, WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT DID GO BACK TO BEAVERS AND SAY, HEY, DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING COVERED? AND THEY SAID, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE WILL DO IT FOR THAT AMOUNT.

IT'S COVERED AND GIVE, GIVE US A CONTRACT.

YEP.

IT WAS A SURPRISINGLY LOW BID AND EVERYONE THAT MADE EVERYONE HAPPY AND THEY DID DOUBLE CHECK, UM, UH, WENT BACK AND SAID, ARE YOU SURE YOU CAN DO IT FOR THIS? AND THEY SAID, SURE WE CAN.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COMMISSIONER.

UM, LATI, THE, IS THE SOLE CONSERVATION OR ARE THEY HELPING WITH THE PAYMENT OF THIS? YES, THEY RE THEY THEY RE REIMBURSE.

MM-HMM .

THEY, THEY, THEY ARE HELPING WITH THE ENTIRETY OF THE PAYMENT OF THIS.

YEAH.

THEY, THEY, AND WE GET A LITTLE ADMIN FEE FOR, FOR BEING THE, THE, OKAY.

THE BID FACILITATOR.

OKAY.

THAT'S, UH, THAT THIS, I JUST WANTED THAT ON RECORD.

YEAH.

THIS IS NOT COMING OUT OF OUR BUDGET.

RIGHT.

I PROBABLY, MY LOOSE USE OF THE LANGUAGE PROBABLY INDICATED IT WAS, BUT IT'S NOT.

YEAH.

NO, IT'S OKAY.

PEOPLE KNOW WHAT, WHAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT COSTS TOO, THOUGH.

IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

IT IS A LOT OF MONEY.

YEAH.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE GOTTA DO.

AND THIS IS ALSO, UM, UH, A PART OF THE RIVER ROCK TRAILS PROJECT IS WHERE THIS IS LOCATED, LOCATED.

OKAY.

WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOVE IF YOU'D LIKE FOR ME TO THAT.

WE, UM, WE AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR THE CEDAR CREEK WATERSHED SITE NUMBER 13, THE STRUCTURAL REPAIR OF THE DAM.

UM, I GUESS THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO SAY.

I THINK THAT'S A AWARD.

THE CONTRACT TO BEAVERS, BEAVER.

MM-HMM .

CONTRACTING.

YES.

BEAVERS? YES.

BEAVERS CONTRACTING.

UM, LLC.

ALRIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MACKLER.

I WILL SECOND IT.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

I DO WANT TO ADD THAT THE AMOUNT IS $996,692 AND 50 CENTS THAT WE'RE AWARDING THE CONTRACT.

UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

[16. Discuss/ Act on approving additional road repair on Eagle Pass in High Point Ranch, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)]

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 16, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING ADDITIONAL ROAD REPAIR ON EAGLE PASS AND HIGH POINT RANCH AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER LICHTY, THIS IS MY LUCKY DAY.

YOU ARE THREE IN A ROW.

THAT'S A TIC TAC TOE.

SO IF YOU , IF , YEAH.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF YOU'LL REMEMBER A FEW MEETINGS AGO, UM, OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT PRESENTED, UH, A CONTRACT FOR APPROVAL WITH RESPECT TO REPAIRS ON EAGLE PASS.

AND THAT CONTRACT, IF YOU REALLY RE HAVE A GOOD MEMORY, YOU'LL REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST BROUGHT UP FOR THE RFP, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE ABOUT $180,000 AND TALKED ABOUT HOW THAT MUCH THAT WAS.

AND IT ACTUALLY CAME IN MUCH LOWER THAN THAT.

IT WAS ABOUT $122,000.

SO THAT WAS ANOTHER, AGAIN, GOOD NEWS.

BUT THERE WERE TWO SECTIONS OF THIS STREET EAGLE PASS, ONE ON EITHER SIDE OF WHERE THE REPAIR WORK WAS DONE.

AND OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT SAID, I WONDER IF WE COULD GET THOSE FIXED AT THE SAME TIME.

AND SO THEY ASKED THE GUY WHO WAS DOING IT, UM, DON SMITH CONCRETE, AND HE'S DEAD, YES, AT THE SAME PRICE.

AND WE'RE APPROVING THIS, UM, NOT AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT, BUT WE'RE APPROVING THIS.

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WE'RE APPROVING THIS, WE'RE ASKING THE COURT TO APPROVE IT BECAUSE IT WAS RELATED.

AND WE WANNA BE FULLY TRANSPARENT WITH EVERYONE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THE ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ACCEPT THIS ON THEIR OWN.

BUT BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSE IN PROXIMITY, WE WANTED TO BRING BACK AND ALLOW EVERYONE TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

SO WE'RE APPROVING THIS ESSENTIALLY AS A CHANGE ORDER TO THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT.

WELL, WE'VE INCREASED THE SCOPE SCOPE ESSENTIALLY, BUT NOT REALLY.

OKAY.

IT HAS, IT IS A SEPARATE CONTRACT AND IT'S NOT REALLY EVEN A CONTRACT.

IT'S A BID THAT THEY'RE ACCEPTING BECAUSE IT'S UNDER $50,000, BUT IT'S NOT A, AN AMENDMENT TO THAT CONTRACT, THE EXISTING ONE FOR REASONS THAT I'M SURE THAT OUR AUDITOR, LISA AND OUR ATTORNEY CRAIG, COULD EXPLAIN BETTER.

BUT WE ARE NOT AMENDING THE CONTRACT.

WE'RE ACCEPTING A BID.

AND UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL ROAD REPAIR ON EAGLE PASS POINT RANCH, UM, AND THE BID BY DON SMITH CONCRETE LLC AND THE AMOUNT OF $39,043 76 CENTS.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTI.

SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES.

NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

[17. Discuss/ Act on the appointment of Commissioner GaIlana to the Board of the Public Power Pool, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)]

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17, DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONER GOANA TO THE BOARD OF PUBLIC POWER POOL AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER GOANA? YEAH, SO THE, UH, PUBLIC POWER POOL IS WHO, UH, WE ESSENTIALLY BUY OUR ELECTRICITY THROUGH.

THEY'RE THE LARGEST, UM, ELECTRICITY AGGREGATOR IN THE STATE.

AND, UM, WE'VE BEEN A MEMBER WITH THEM FOR SOME TIME AND THEY SAVE US A, UM, SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY OVER GOING TO THE MARKET, UM, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

AND SO THEY'VE ASKED ME TO BE ON THE BOARD AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT COMMISSIONER BOBBY GOANA TO THE BOARD OF THE PUBLIC POWER POOL? I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION TO A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY.

SO THESE GUYS CONTRACT WITH US.

THEY DO.

IS THERE GONNA BE A PROBLEM WITH YOU VOTING ON THEIR CONTRACT IN THE FUTURE IF YOU'RE ON THEIR BOARD? UH, THE CON THE CONTRACT STILL HAS TO COME THROUGH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR APPROVAL.

WE STILL HAVE TO APPROVE CONTINUING WITH THAT.

YEAH, I JUST WANNA, THERE'S NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THIS.

NO, I'M NOT THE ONLY COMMISSIONER ON THE BOARD.

THIS IS NOT A THING.

IF HE'S NOT GETTING PAID, THEN NO, BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T COUNT AS AN OFFICE OF MENT, WHICH IS THE TEST FOR THAT PARTICULAR THING.

RIGHT.

THERE MAY BE OTHER, UH, CONFLICTS, ISSUES THAT I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF.

UH, I, I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY DEALT WITH THIS SITUATION.

UM, WE HAVE HAD A, A PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER THAT WAS SAT ON THAT SAME, THAT SAME BOARD.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT MEANS THAT THAT DOESN'T NULLIFY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO WE HAD THE NULLIFY, WHAT YOU'RE THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IS THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HEARING NONE IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THAT

[18. Discuss/Act on reappointing Doreen Miller to the Rockwall County Library Advisory Board for a term for May 2025 to April 2027, and all related issues; (Commissioner GaIlana)]

BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 18.

DISCUSS AN ACT ON REAPPOINTING DOREEN MILLER TO THE ROCKWALL COUNTY LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD FOR A TERM FOR MAY, 2025 TO APRIL, 2027.

AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER GALANA? YEAH, SO THIS IS AN EASY ONE.

I THINK, UH, DOREEN HAS, UH, ALREADY SERVED ON THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD AFTER HER 25 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE LIBRARY.

UH, SHE'S A PERFECT FIT FOR THIS BOARD AND, UH, THEY WOULD LIKE HER TO CONTINUE.

I AGREE.

THAT'S AN EASY ONE.

UH, SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REAPPOINT DOREEN MILLER TO THE ROCKWALL COUNTY LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD FOR A TERM BEGINNING MAY, 2025 TO APRIL, 2027.

I'LL SECOND.

GO SECOND.

WHO, WHO, WHO GOT IT? I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

GOT MY MOTION.

GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

AND THAT BRINGS US

[20. CONSENT AGENDA]

TO AGENDA ITEM 20.

CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, I'D LIKE TO, I GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THESE.

OKAY.

SO I'D LIKE TO PULL OFF C, D AND G.

C, D AND G.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'VE REMOVED C, D, AND G.

WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION REGARDING A, B, E AND F? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

CONSENT AGENDA.

A, B, E, AND F.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION SECOND BY COMMISSIONER

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M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES.

NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

SO LET'S

[20.C. Commissioner Stacy - Acknowledge the Official Change Order No. 04 for the Proposed Change Orders No. 14 through 17, approved by Commissioners Court on 01/28/2025, and Proposed Change Orders 18 through 28 approved by Commissioners Court on 02/25/2025, and Proposed Change Order No. 29, approved by Commissioners Court on 03/11/2025, to the agreement with Hill & Wilkinson Construction Group for the Rockwall County Annex project]

TAKE AGENDA OR CONSENT.

ITEM C.

COMMISSIONER STACEY ACKNOWLEDGED THE OFFICIAL CHANGE ORDER NUMBER FOUR FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGE ORDERS NUMBER 14 THROUGH 17 APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON 1 28 25, AND PROPOSED CHANGE ORDERS 18 THROUGH 28 APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON 2 25 25, AND PROPOSED CHANGED ORDERS 29 APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON 3 11 25 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY NX PROJECTS.

I GUESS SINCE I HAD A QUESTION, I'LL ASK IT.

YES, PLEASE.

UM, IS THIS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO WHEN WE APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDERS IN THE PAST? DON'T THEY TAKE CARE OF THIS? I I I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY, UH, OFFICIALLY MOVING, FINISHING, MOVING THE MONEY.

IT'S A COST, IT'S A COST OF WORK.

SO IT'S DROPPING THE GMP FROM 17.2 TO 14.9.

IT'S TAKING $2.3 MILLION OUT OF THE GMP.

SO IT'S BASICALLY ACCOUNTING FOR ALL THE MONEY IN CREATING A SCOPE OF WORK CHANGE.

OKAY.

WE DO THESE, WE TRY TO DO THESE AS INFREQUENTLY AS POSSIBLE, WHICH IS WHY THERE'S A BUNCH OF PCOS, UM, PROPOSED CHANGE ORDERS APPROVED IN THEM TO CREATE ONE CHANGE ORDER.

SO WHEN WE APPROVE THE OTHER CHANGE ORDERS, WHAT ARE WE DOING? YOU ARE AGREEING TO THE WORK.

YOU ARE AGREEING TO MOVE EVERYTHING.

THIS IS AN ACTUAL AMENDMENT TO HILL AND WILKINSON'S CONTRACT.

AND THE CHANGE ORDER IS NOT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HERE.

I'M NOT, AND, AND THIS IS JUST, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

THIS IS THE ONLY BUILDING I'VE EVER BUILT IN MY LIFE.

TH THIS IS HOW HILL AND WILKINSON WANTS TO OPERATE THEIR GENERAL CONTRACT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS NORMAL.

UM, BUT THIS IS THEIR PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT IS WE DO THE PCOS, WE GET THEM APPROVED, WE DO THE SCOPES, WE DO THE ACCOUNTING, AND THEN WE AMEND THEIR CONTRACT.

AND I, I DON'T MOVE THE MONEY, UH, IN MY, IN MY LEDGER UNTIL YOU GIVE ME THE, THIS FINAL CHANGE ORDER.

THE OTHER ONES ARE, ARE DENOTED AS PROPOSED CHANGE ORDERS.

WE DID, WE HAVE, ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, WE DID NOT HAVE PROPOSED TO FINAL.

UH, I THINK THAT COMMISSIONER STACY'S CORRECT.

THIS IS JUST THEIR PROCEDURAL WAY OF DOING THINGS, PROBABLY PROPOSING THEM TO YOU.

YOU GET THE, YOU'RE SAYING YES, YOU'RE GONNA DO IT, AND THEN THEY FORMALIZE IT AS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH, WITH THIS FINAL CHANGE ORDER.

IT MIGHT.

INTERESTING.

OKAY.

WELL, AND I, THAT CAUSED ME TO HAVE A QUESTION.

IT'S THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNTS AS WHAT WE ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT IN THOSE OTHER, IN THOSE DATES.

ISN'T IT A ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

YEAH, NO CHANGE.

AND THIS IS THE, UH, FOURTH ONE.

SO WE, WE, SO WE JUST, AND I, AND I THINK OF IT AS MEMORIALIZING THE CHANGES.

AND I, I, I DON'T KNOW.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE ONLY ONE I'VE EVER WORKED ON.

SO THIS IS NORMAL TO ME.

UM, BUT, UH, THAT, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS DOING IS THIS TAKING ALL THOSE CHANGE ORDERS AND PUTTING 'EM INTO THE CONTRACT AND MAKING IT OFFICIAL.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY'S SO INCLINED.

Y YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION, UH, AND I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE IT EASY.

AND SOME MIGHT EVEN ARGUE LAZY.

I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM C.

I'LL SECOND IT.

NOW MY MOTION GOT I SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW.

IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S

[20.D. Commissioner Stacy - Acknowledge the approval of Proposed Change Orders 31 and 32 to the agreement with Hill & Wilkinson Construction Group for the Rockwall County Annex Project]

TALK ABOUT CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM D.

COMMISSIONER STACY ACKNOWLEDGE THE APPROVAL OF PROPOSED CHANGE ORDERS 31 AND 32 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ROCKWELL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT.

GO AHEAD AND TELL US WHAT THIS ONE'S ABOUT.

UM, I DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR? WELL, OKAY.

SO ON THIS ONE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ONE IN THE PAST, FOR SOME REASON WE'VE ALWAYS BROUGHT PROPOSED CHANGE ORDERS AND DISCUSSED THEM.

YES.

AND WE'VE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THE GUY FROM, IS HE FROM HILL AND WILKINSON? HE'S FROM BROADUS.

FROM BROADUS, YES.

HE COMES UP AND HE GIVES US AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE GET TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS AND FOR SOME REASON THIS GOT SHIFTED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I DON'T KNOW WHY.

UM, THAT WAS ME.

UM, OKAY, WELL THEN I'M ASKING THE RIGHT GUY.

YES, YOU ARE.

SO, UM, SO THERE IS A, UH, AN AUTHORITY THAT THE COURT GRANTED ME THE ABILITY TO SIGN OFF ON CHANGE ORDERS.

AND SO, UM, I HAVE, THESE ARE THE FIRST FEW THAT I HAVE SIGNED.

AND IT WAS WEIRD TO SIGN SOMETHING AND BRING IT AS AN ACTION ITEM WHEN IT'S ALREADY APPROVED.

SO, UM, SO ONE OF THEM IS, UH, NECESSARY

[02:25:01]

IT EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS, UH, ENDS UP BEING 23, BASICALLY $27,000.

THE OTHER IS A CREDIT OF $5,300.

SO THIS WAS KIND OF, IS KIND OF MY ASK IS WE CAN CREATE THEM AS ACTION ITEMS. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT.

UM, BUT WHEN WE WERE PUTTING THE AGENDA TOGETHER, I SAID, WELL, I CAN EITHER PUT IT AS AN ACTION ITEM AND ASK IF IT CAN GO TO CONSENT, OR I CAN PUT IT ON CONSENT AND SEE IF THE COURT OBJECTS.

AND, AND WE CAN DO IT EITHER WAY BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO ROLL THESE THINGS OUT.

THEY'RE ABOUT TO GO FAST.

SO WE COULD END UP WITH SEVEN, EIGHT OF THEM ON A PARTICULAR COURT.

AND, AND I JUST WANT, I'LL DO WHATEVER THE WILL OF THE COURT IS WITH THESE.

SOME OF THEM COULD POTENTIALLY BE SIGNED, SOME OF THEM COULD BE GOING TO COURT.

BUT YOU, YOU HAVE A THRESHOLD THAT YOU CAN JUST APPROVE THESE AND THIS, THESE ARE, WELL, OBVIOUSLY THE ONES OF CREDIT ONE IS WELL UNDER YOUR THRESHOLD.

THAT IS CORRECT.

CORRECT.

SO YOU DON'T REALLY EVEN NEED TO BRING THESE TO THE COURT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

I COULD, I COULD SAVE EVERYTHING UP AND JUST BRING THE PCO THE, THE ACTUAL CHANGE ORDER.

AND I JUST, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WANT TO DO THIS.

'CAUSE THIS COURT HAS NEVER BUILT A BUILDING , SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE ACKNOWLEDGED AND THAT IT, BECAUSE WE COULD JUST WAIT AND JUST BRING THE ACTUAL CHANGE ORDER.

BUT I'D HAVE FELT, I FEEL LIKE THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T, I WOULDN'T BE HAPPY IF, IF BOBBY DID THAT ON THE THIRD FLOOR.

I KIND OF WANNA SEE WHAT CHANGES ARE COMING.

WELL, I GET YOUR POINT NOW, SO IT MAKES SENSE.

AND WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY YOU HAVE THAT HE HAS? SO THE, THE COURT AUTHORIZED IT, IT'S, IT'S, YOU'VE KIND OF TRANSFERRED THE PURCHASING AUTHORITY FOR THE COURT TO ONE PERSON.

AND IT'S UP TO THE, I BELIEVE IT'S $75,000.

IT'S 70,000 ON THIS PROJECT.

75,000 PER ITEM, OR 75,000 TOTAL PER ITEM.

PER ITEM.

SO HE CAN MAKE DECISIONS.

ANYTHING ABOVE 75 HE HAS TO BRING BACK TO THE COURT.

OKAY.

AND, AND THE PREVIOUS COURTS HAVE FOUND THAT IT WAS A GOOD OPTION BECAUSE THINGS HAPPEN SO FAST IN BUILDING THAT, THAT IT WOULD STALL THINGS OUT IF WE HAD TO WAIT TWO WEEKS AT A TIME OR MAKE YOU ALL MEET EVERY OTHER DAY.

SO THEY GAVE THAT AUTHORITY.

AND, UM, AND SO THE REASON THAT WE PUT IT ON CONSENT WAS COMMISSIONER STACEY HAD ALREADY SIGNED IT, BUT WE NEEDED IT ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE COURT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR AUTHORITY GAVE HIM, IS THE RIGHT TO DO SOMETHING ON YOUR BEHALF, BUT STILL TO REPORT TO YOU THAT HE'S DONE IT.

SO WHEN WE DO THIS ON CONSENT, THEN, AND WE ALSO GET IT INTO THE COURT'S MINUTES BY HAVING IT ACKNOWLEDGED IN THIS, IN, IN THIS RESPECT.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE MINUTES WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S BEEN DONE, WE'RE NOT APPROVING IT.

CORRECT.

AND, AND IT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO REVOKE THE AUTHORITY IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE DECISIONS I'M MAKING BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING BACK THROUGH THE COURT AS FAST AS WE CAN GET 'EM BACK.

YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND SAY WE REVOKE THAT AUTHORITY.

OKAY.

I I'LL SEND YOU A COPY OF THE MINUTES.

SO I, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE AUTHORITY WAS, UM, BECAUSE WE, WE ALSO SENT IT TO COMMISSIONER ANO ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF 50,000.

I BELIEVE IT'S A SMALLER AMOUNT.

I I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A QUESTION YOU WEREN'T GIVEN.

YEAH, THAT'S MAYBE IN ANOTHER YEAR WE'LL BUMP YOU UP TO 75.

YEAH, I HAVE NO IDEA.

.

SO, AND THEN WHEN THE SHERIFF'S PROJECT GETS STARTED, IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING AS WE WOULD DENOTE A COMMISSIONER AND THEN GIVE SOME SORT OF OF AUTHORITY.

UM, THE REASON THAT WE MOVED ON THE, ON THE IT EQUIPMENT IS BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE THE PURCHASE OF THE EQUIPMENT SO WE COULD GET IT INSTALLED IN TIME TO LINE UP WITH THE INSTALLER.

SO IT ENDED UP BEING, AND THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION I ASK.

I AM VERY SLOW TO SIGN THESE.

THE FIRST QUESTION I ASK IS, CAN IT WAIT TILL COURT AND THEN I'LL MAKE IT AN ACTION ITEM.

THAT'S MY ALWAYS MY PREFERENCE.

THAT'S MY DEFAULT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY SOW INCLINED.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE EXECUTION OF CHANGE ORDER 31 AND 32, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY UNDER THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKERSON CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR THE ROCKWALL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT.

ALL RIGHT.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TY.

I'LL SECOND.

OH, SORRY.

GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW THAT PASSES FIVE

[20.G. Constable Pct. 2, Acknowledge Travis Barnaby as a Reserve Deputy Constable for Pct. 2]

TO ZERO.

THAT BRINGS US TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM G CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO, ACKNOWLEDGE TRAVIS BARNABY AS A RESERVE DEPUTY CONSTABLE FOR PRECINCT TWO.

OKAY.

AND THE REASON I ASK THIS TO BE PULLED OFF IS I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POLICY IS FOR, UM, RESERVE

[02:30:01]

DEPUTY CONSTABLES.

I MEAN, AGAIN, I LIKE MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS OFTEN BETTER.

UM, SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

UM, BUT I, AGAIN, IT JUST, YOU'RE ASKING US TO APPROVE THIS AND I HAVE KIND OF NO IDEA WHAT I'M APPROVING.

SO THIS IS, I MAY NOT EVEN WANNA APPROVE IT.

I YOU MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.

YOU MAY NOT WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

IT COULD BE ANTI LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IF YOU WANNA BE, IT'S OKAY.

.

SO THAT RIGHT INTO THE MICROPHONE.

WOW.

RIGHT IN IT INTO THE MICROPHONE.

SO ANYWAY, THIS IS, SO THE REASON WHY IT'S ON CONSENT IS 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT CHANGING HEAD COUNT.

THIS ISN'T AN ADDITION.

WE'RE, UM, TREY HAD SOMEBODY LEAVE THAT WAS A RESERVE.

AND SO WE'RE JUST REPLACING THAT SET, THAT PERSON.

OKAY.

BUT WHY DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT? I MEAN, AGAIN, I I DON'T WANNA MAKE A BIG DEAL OUTTA THIS, BUT PEOPLE HIRE AND THEY HIRE NEW EMPLOYEES ALL THE TIME HERE.

'CAUSE IN OUR PAST WE HAD APPROVED THESE IN COURT.

THAT WAS THE PRECEDENT WE HAD SET.

SO I JUST WENT BY THAT.

OKAY.

I, I BELIEVE IT REQUIRES US TO APPROVE IT.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING OF, EVEN THOUGH THE DECISION ON THE RESERVE CONSTABLE IS UP TO THE CONSTABLE, IT, I BELIEVE IT HAS TO COME TO THE COURT FOR APPROVAL.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT DOES.

I DON'T THINK IT DOES.

I I I THINK IT'S JUST A POSITION OF RESERVE.

CONSTABLE TWO HAS TO BE APPROVED.

NO, LISA, YOU DON'T GET TO TALK.

OH, I'M KIDDING.

SO , I PUT IT ON.

I WANTED IT ON BECAUSE THE COUNTY DOES PAY THE BOND FOR THE RESERVE AND IT'S A $50 BOND.

AND SO WHEN YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT ALLOWS ME TO PAY THE BILL, IS IT BECAUSE HE'S NOT AN EMPLOYEE? CORRECT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, THE, THE COURT HAS NEVER MANDATED HOW MANY RESERVES ANY ONE CONSTABLE CAN HAVE.

UH, IN YEARS PAST YOU DID NOT, YOU MEANING THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DID NOT PAY FOR THE BONDS ON THE RESERVES.

OKAY.

UH, SO, UH, THE, USUALLY THE RESERVE PAID THEIR OWN BOND, AND IT WAS A NO NO REASON TO GET ANYONE INVOLVED.

AND THEN WHEN WE CAME AROUND TO, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE HELP THE COUNTY, WHY AREN'T WE PAYING FOR IT? IT'S KIND OF BEEN ONE, MAYBE TWO PER CONSTABLE THAT THE COUNTY HAS, HAS, UH, ACCEPTED THE EXPENSE FOR THAT BOND.

OKAY.

SO THIS ALLOWS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T, SINCE THEY'RE NOT EMPLOYEES, WE DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO REIMBURSE THE EXPENSE.

BUT NOT BECAUSE OF THIS, WE DO REIMBURSE THE EXPENSE.

WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO OUR INSURANCE COMPANY AND ASKING FOR THE BOND OURSELVES.

SO, OKAY.

WE, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A $50 EXPENSE TO THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU LISA.

MM-HMM .

ABSOLUTELY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, COMMISSIONER, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COMMISSIONER ALANA.

UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS A POSITION THAT WE, HE, UM, UM, THE CONSTABLE IN PRECINCT TOO ALREADY HAD SOMEONE IN THAT POSITION AND THAT, AND THAT'S, SO ANY OF THE OTHER EXPENSES THAT WE APPROVE AS A COURT, UM, FOR OUR COMMISSIONER, UH, FOR OUR CONSTABLES SUCH AS VEST OR OUR, OUR, OUR RADIOS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE HEADCOUNT THAT WHEN WE APPROVE THOSE OTHER TYPE OF EXPENSES, I'M ASKING, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE APPROVING ANY OF THOSE EXPENSES FOR RESERVES ANYWAY.

I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE WE ARE, BUT THIS ISN'T ANY ADDITIONAL EXPENSE OTHER THAN THE BOND FOR THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN, IF YOU WILL, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS GOT A QUESTION THAT WE, UM, ACKNOWLEDGE TRAVIS BARNABY AS A RESERVE DEPUTY CONSTABLE FOR PRECINCT TWO.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO, SEEING NO PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS DISPOSITIONS, NO NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET.

[22. NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFER(S)]

OH WAIT, WE DO HAVE A NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFER.

WE'LL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 22, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE FOLLOWING NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS.

IT IS 2025 DASH NINE, TRANSFER $1,300 WITHIN THE COUNTY SHERIFF GENERAL FUND BUDGET TO CAPITAL OUTLAY FROM EQUIPMENT FURNITURE TO REALLOCATE BUDGETED FUNDS.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE.

NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFER.

2025 DASH OH NINE.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GUANA.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

IT BRINGS US TO

[23. APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL(S)]

AGENDA ITEM 23, APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS AND PAYROLL.

YES, SIR.

I'M SPENDING TO THE COURT PAID CLAIMS THE AMOUNT OF $122,550 AND 49 CENTS AND ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MLU.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW.

OH, THAT

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WAS ME.

SORRY.

IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

I ALSO SUBMIT TO THE COURT THE UNPAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,145,772 AND 38 CENTS.

AND I ASKED FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUANA.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LTE.

IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

AND LASTLY, I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT THE PAYROLL REPORT FOR THE PAY PERIOD ENDING MARCH 15TH, 2025 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,106,643 AND 95 CENTS.

AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUANA.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

SO

[26. COMMISSIONERS COURT REPORTS]

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 26.

COMMISSIONER COURT REPORTS.

LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER ALANA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT? NOTHING TO REPORT.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER M**K.

I DO NOT EITHER.

COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO THE ROCKWALL COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION, UM, AND THE CITY OF ROCKWALL FOR ACQUIRING THE ROCKWALL ON PROPERTY, THE ROCKWALL PROPERTY ON HIGHWAY 66.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO DAVID AND PATRICIA KUP, PAUL KUP AND JOHN AND GINGER WHITE FOR THEIR CONVEYANCE OF THIS PROPERTY TO THE CITY OF ROCKWALL.

THIS IS A VERY, AS WE ALL KNOW, EXTRAORDINARILY HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT PARCEL OF LAND.

IN FACT, IT DOESN'T GET ANY MORE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT IN ROCKWALL COUNTY THAN THAT.

AND I KNOW THIS HAS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS IN THE COUNTY AND WITH THE CITY'S HELP NOW FOR YEARS.

AND, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY A BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO THE EVERYBODY THAT GOT THIS DONE, AND A HUGE THANK YOU TO THE KNOPS AND THE WHITE FAMILY FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

THIS IS A, SOMETHING THAT WILL BE A HUGE BENEFIT TO US.

WONDERFUL.

I AGREE.

COMMISSIONER STACY, I JUST WANT TO, UH, PIGGYBACK ON THAT AND THINK, UH, LORNE FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THE ROCK WALL.

UM, IT, IT DIDN'T GO UNNOTICED AS SOMEONE THAT SAID ON THAT BOARD, UM, AS, UH, AS YOU WORKED ON LEGAL DOCUMENTATION TO TRY TO GET THE NEGOTIATIONS AND EVERYTHING DONE.

SO YOU WERE VALUABLE.

UM, MARK RUSSO WAS INVALUABLE, UM, IN, IN THAT EFFORT.

UM, AND, UH, THE CITY OF ROCKWALL.

UM, AND THEN I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, THANK, UH, UH, REPRESENTATIVE PEARSON AND HER TEAM FOR THE HONOR TODAY.

UM, VERY UNEXPECTED AND, UH, VERY APPRECIATED.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JOHN AT TWO 17.

WE'RE ADJOURNED.