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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

[A) INVOCATION]

IT IS APRIL 22ND, 2025 AT 9:00 AM I'M GONNA CALL THE ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER.

I'M GONNA ASK COMMISSIONER M**K TO LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION, THEN I'LL LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGES.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND IF ABLE, AND IF YOU'LL BOW YOUR HEADS, PLEASE.

DEAR LORD, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, AND WE COME TO BEFORE YOU TODAY TO GIVE YOU THE HONOR AND THE PRAISE AS WE BEGIN THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING.

WE THANK YOU IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE, AND WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE ACTIVE AND ALWAYS WORKING AMONG US.

I'M GONNA ASK THAT YOU BLESS ALL WHO ARE HERE TODAY, INCLUDING THE MEMBERS OF THIS COURT, THAT WE WILL BE FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT OF KNOWLEDGE, WITH DISCUSSIONS OF OUR COUNTY, AND KEEPING OUR PRINCIPLES OF MERIT AND UNITY.

I PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY AND FOR OUR LEADERS, LOCAL, STATE, AND NATIONAL, THAT THEY MAY HAVE WISDOM AND EXPERTISE TO GUIDE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES, STATES, AND COUNT AND COUNTRY THAT THEY SERVE WITH THE VALUES TO DO WHAT IS BEST AND HONORS YOU.

GOD, PLEASE HEAL OUR NATION FROM THE CHAOS IN THIS DIVISION.

MY PRAYER IS FOR UNITY AND FOR YOU TO BE GLORIFIED ALWAYS THROUGHOUT.

FORGIVE US FOR OUR FAILURES AND OUR SELFISH AMBITIONS.

STRENGTHEN OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH YOU THAT WE MAY MODEL FROM YOU OUR ACTIONS WITH OPEN AND HUMBLE HEARTS.

I PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY'S SAFETY.

BLESS AND PROTECT THOSE THAT DEFEND OUR FREEDOMS THAT WE HOLD DEAR.

GIVE THEM STRENGTH, LORD, AND GUARD THEIR FAMILIES FROM THE STRESS THAT THEY ENDURE.

FOR ALL OF THIS, WE GIVE YOU THANKS, AND WE GLORIFY YOUR HOLY NAME.

AMEN.

AMEN.

JOIN ME AS WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE AMERICAN FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

NOW, THE TEXAS FLAG, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG FLAG.

I PLEDGE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, GOD, ONE, AND INDIVISIBLE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU EVERYONE.

THAT BRINGS US TO OUR RECOGNITION

[RECOGNITION/PRESENTATION]

AND PRESENTATION OF OUR EMPLOYEES OF THE QUARTER.

LET'S START WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

WHERE IS THE SHERIFF? SHERIFF GARRETT? GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING THIS PROGRAM AND ALLOWING US TO, UH, RECOGNIZE, UH, OUR EMPLOYEES FOR WHAT, WHAT THEY DO FOR US ON A DAILY BASIS.

UH, TODAY WE'RE RECOGNIZING HEATHER MITCHELL.

HEATHER IS OUR, UH, OFFICE MANAGER.

AND, UH, I, I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT WHAT SHE PROBABLY DOES.

AND, UH, UH, HEATHER'S BEEN WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SINCE, UH, 2004, CAME IN AS A DISPATCHER, RAPIDLY MADE, UH, DISPATCH SUPERVISOR, AND THEN IN 2014 WAS PROMOTED TO OFFICE MANAGER.

SO ON A DAILY BASIS, YOU CAN HEAR IF SOMEONE NEEDS SOMETHING, IT'S LIKE, WHERE'S HEATHER? LET'S GO TALK TO HEATHER.

AND SO, UH, SHE KIND OF KEEPS US ALL IN LINE THERE.

SHE SUPERVISES, UH, THE RECORDS DIVISION AND, UH, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON THERE, UH, WITH, UH, UH, WARRANTS, THE WARRANTS THAT COME IN AND THAT ARE, THAT ARE SORTED THROUGH.

SO, UH, DOES A YEOMAN'S JOB AT, AT EVERYTHING SHE DOES WITH THE OFFICE, AND KEEPING EVERYBODY, UH, INTACT AND ARRANGED AND WHERE WE NEED TO GO ON A DAILY BASIS.

WE HAVE TRAINING CONFERENCES.

SHE FACILITATES ALL OF THOSE THINGS ALSO.

SO, UM, IT'S ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS WHERE, UH, I THINK THE TITLE PROBABLY DOESN'T DO JUSTICE TO WHAT, UH, WHAT YOU DO FOR US IN THE OFFICE.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO, UH, RECOGNIZE HER TODAY FOR THIS AND GIVE YOU THIS LITTLE THANK YOU HERE.

I'M ASSUMING THIS IS HERS TOO? OR IS THIS MINE? YES.

NO, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S HERS AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK, THANK YOU.

HEATHER, DO YOU, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? THE MICROPHONE IS YOURS.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE, THANK YOU, SHERIFF.

AND, UH, IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO WORK FOR THE ROCKWELL COUNTY FOR 21 YEARS NOW, AND, UM, APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO BE HERE AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE AND CONTINUE.

AND, UH, DEFINITELY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, ALL MY STAFF AND EVERYBODY AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TAKING CARE OF ME.

SO, .

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK Y'ALL.

WE WE'RE THANKFUL TO HAVE YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

DO WE WANT TO HAND THIS RIGHT TO THE AUDITOR, OR DO WE WANT TO GO TO CAMIE TO HAND IT TO THE AUDITOR? ALL RIGHT, DO THAT AGAIN.

GOOD MORNING.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING, UH, THE AUDITOR STAFF HERE AND, UH, FOR ALWAYS BEING SO ACCOMMODATING TO THE AUDITOR STAFF.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT ALWAYS THE EASIEST OFFICE TO, UH, COMMISSIONER LICHTY COME COMMENTED.

IT WAS LIKE GOING TO THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE WHEN HE COMES TO SEE ME .

ANYWAYS, TODAY'S ABOUT, LEAH BEEN TO THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE.

WELL, WE'RE NOT THAT BAD, ARE WE? ? ANYWAYS, LEAH, UH, STARTED WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE IN 2022, AND, UH, SHE'S BEEN A DEDICATED AND VERY LOYAL EMPLOYEE, UH, UH, ASSISTANT AUDITOR.

UH, SHE'S ORGANIZED.

SHE HANDLES ACCOUNTS PAYABLE FOR US.

SHE HANDLES ALL OF THE UTILITIES.

SHE BASICALLY HANDLES A LOT OF STUFF.

SHE KEEPS UP WITH ALL OF THE CALENDARS FOR EVERYONE.

AND, UH, SHE'S A, A BENEFIT TO ME, UH, FOR SURE.

UM, AND OUR TEAM, WE CAN ALL SAY THAT.

UH, WE ARE A TEAM IN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

WE TRULY WORK WELL TOGETHER.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE TOGETHER.

UH, LEAH WAS ASKED BY HILL AND WILKINSON, THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR OUR, UH, NEW ANNEX BUILDING TO SET UP PERMANENT POWER.

AND ORDINARILY IT WOULD BE A TYPE AN EMAIL AND SEND IT OFF AND EVERYTHING WOULD JUST FLOW THROUGH AND IT WASN'T THAT EASY.

UH, THERE WAS SOME ADDRESS INCONSISTENCIES.

THE CITY OF ROCKWELL HAD US ONE PLACE, WE HAD US ANOTHER PLACE, UH, AT ENCORE HAD US ONE.

ANYWAYS, IT ALL BOILED DOWN TO LEAH FINALLY CAME INTO ME AND SHE SAID, I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO TURN OFF THE POWER AT THE CAR WASH .

SO I WAS LIKE, LET'S CALL COMMISSIONER STACEY.

AND WE GOT COMMISSIONER STACEY INVOLVED AND COMMISSIONER GALANA WITH THE PUBLIC POWER POOL.

AND ANYWAYS, ALL SAID AND DONE.

LEAH GOT PERMANENT POWER TURNED ON AND THE GAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO THE NEW ANNEX BUILDING.

SO, YEAH, I, I JUST WANNA ADD, THAT WAS A Y MAN'S EFFORT.

AND, UM, AND THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT AND NOT CAUSING SOMEONE'S POWER TO GO OFF FOR OUR POWER, NOT TO EVEN TO TURN ON .

AND, UM, AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS A CRAZY HECTIC DAY.

AND THAT WOULD'VE SET US BACK A REALLY LONG TIME BECAUSE WE HAD OTHER THINGS COMING IN THAT NEEDED PERMANENT POWER AND TESTING.

AND SO THANK YOU.

THANK COMMISSIONER ALANA AND LISA.

AND THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS QUITE A MONDAY.

YES.

YEAH, .

SO THAT, AND THAT WAS GREAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING SO THOROUGH.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT AND THIS IS FOR YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? ? SHE DIDN'T WANNA TALK? NO.

WHY? WISE WOMAN.

CONGRATULATIONS, LEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS BRINGS US TO

[1. PUBLIC FORUM]

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

THE PUBLIC FORUM IS THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COURT ABOUT ANY COUNTY MATTERS.

A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP.

NUMBER ONE IS KYLE HERON.

IF YOU WOULD TRY TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO ABOUT THREE MINUTES.

GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS COLIN AARON AND I LIVE AT 4 0 1 FOREST TRACE.

GENERALLY THERE MUST BE JUSTIFICATION OR PROOF AND PRESENTING REASONS FOR DENYING SALARY INCREASES.

THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS 'CAUSE MANY DEPARTMENT HEADS CAME BEFORE THE COURT ON AUGUST 27TH, 2024, ASKING FOR RAISES FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.

MOST WERE DENIED DUE TO COMPARISONS TO THE 2021 MARKET UPDATE, SURVEY OR DOUBT WHETHER THERE HAD BEEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THESE JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

FIRSTLY, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE SURVEY.

IT'S OUTDATED.

A LOT HAS CHANGED.

MOST NOTABLY, INFLATION, EVEN IF WE IGNORE THE DATE, IT'S STILL NOT COMPETITIVE.

IN 2021, ROCKWALL COUNTY, ON AVERAGE, PAID ITS MID-LEVEL EMPLOYEES 68 TO 94% LESS THAN NEIGHBORING COUNTIES.

ALTHOUGH THERE WERE ADJUSTMENTS, THESE MID-LEVEL POSITIONS ARE STILL NOT MARKET COMPETITIVE.

THE OTHER MAIN REASON FOR DENYING RAISES WAS THERE WAS NO NOTICEABLE CHANGE IN JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

IN 2020, THE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF PEOPLE LIVING IN ROCKWELL COUNTY WAS APPROXIMATELY 107,800.

BY 2024, THE COUNTY POPULATION HAD INCREASED TO 137,000.

THIS IS A BIG INCREASE.

IT AFFECTS ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

SO STATING THERE'S NO NOTICEABLE CHANGE IS INVALID.

WHEN OUR POPULATION GROWS, THERE'S AN INCREASE IN TRANSACTIONS FOR THESE EMPLOYEES.

AS A COUNTY, THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH KEEPING EMPLOYEES.

THE REASON, ONCE HIRED HERE, WE PAY TO TRAIN THEM, AND THEN THEY GO TO OTHER COUNTIES FOR MORE MONEY.

THEY THEN WE HAVE TO SPEND EVEN MORE MONEY TO TRAIN ANOTHER PERSON.

WOULDN'T IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO PAY MORE TO KEEP OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR SKILLS, EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE, RATHER THAN CONTINUE TO PAY, UH, UH, TO TRAIN OTHER COUNTIES? EMPLOYEES SEE, ENGLISH PHILOSOPHER JOHN LOCKE BELIEVED THAT KNOWLEDGE IS GAINED IN TWO WAYS.

THE FIRST IS EMPIRICALLY OR THROUGH THE CENSUS

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SITE, HEARING, ET CETERA.

THE SECOND IS THROUGH REFLECTION.

THIS INVOLVES DOUBTING OR REASONING.

WE EMPIRICALLY GAIN SIMPLE IDEAS, AND THEN THROUGH RE UH, REFLECTION, WE, THEY BECOME COMPLEX IDEAS.

WHEN, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO SALARY, YOU IMMEDIATELY JUMP TO REFLECTION.

YOU START WITH DISCERNMENT ABOUT THE PERSON'S JOB.

YOU DOUBT WHETHER THEY DESERVE A RAISE.

AND WHILE I APPRECIATE THE DESIRE TO RUN A COUNTY EFFICIENTLY, YOU HAVE SKIPPED THE FIRST STEP.

YOU NEED TO, UH, EXPERIENCE WHAT THIS PERSON DOES.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO WATCH YOUR EMPLOYEES ALL THE TIME.

HOWEVER, INSTEAD OF TURNING TO AN OUTDATED SURVEY, YOU SHOULD TRUST THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THEIR WORKERS DO.

UH, LIKE JOHN LOCKE AS A, UH, STUDENT CLERK, I'VE EXPERIENCED THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND HOURS IT TAKES TO PREPARE FOR AND CONDUCT AN ELECTION.

AND YOU CAN COME EXPERIENCE THIS TOO.

THE ELECTION'S OFFICE, BEFORE EVERY ELECTION CONDUCTS A LOGIC AND ACCURACY TESTING, AND ANYONE IS ALLOWED TO COME AND EXPERIENCE AND PARTICIPATE IN THESE TESTS.

ARE THERE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ABLE TO PERFORM EXPERIENCES FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE IN OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS COULD HELP INCREASE YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND MAKE BETTER SALARY DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.

THANK YOU, KYLE.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT PERSON SIGNED UP IS SUSIE STANZEL.

SUZY STANZEL AND CREW.

AND CREW.

YES.

.

OKAY.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

I'M SUSIE STANZEL.

I'M HERE TODAY AS THE, UH, ROCKWALL COUNTY DEMOCRATIC.

OH, WE GOT ONE MORE.

ROCKWALL COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHAIR.

AND I HAVE MY PRECINCT CHAIRS WITH ME AND MY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ERICA LEDFORD, MELINDA MILLER, SHAR LEWIS, AND MARIA ANN SCHIFFMAN.

THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY, YOU SHOULD HAVE A HANDOUT THAT FELICIA GAVE YOU THE RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF COUNTYWIDE POLLING PLACES IN TEXAS.

WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A, UH, SENATE BILL 76 THAT WANTS TO REMOVE THAT.

SO WE, UH, ISSUED A RESOLUTION, UH, IN ECHO TO THE ONE THAT Y'ALL HAD PUT OUT AS WELL, THAT WE ARE IN COMPLETE SUPPORT OF COUNTYWIDE POLLING LOCATIONS.

IT'S SO MUCH EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE.

IT IS SO MUCH EASIER FOR US TO SUPPLY EMPLOYEES TO WORK THE ELECTIONS.

AND, UM, IT'S JUST A BETTER WAY ALL THE WAY AROUND.

WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK.

WE WANNA STAY GOING FORWARD.

THE PRECINCTS THAT WE HAVE JUST INCREASED TO 28 WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR MYSELF AT THE PRE, AT THE PRIMARY.

AND MY COUNTERPART SHARON HENSON, TO EMPLOY ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS AS HARD ENOUGH AS IT IS TO GET 'EM NOW.

BUT YOU WANT US TO DO 28 AND TO FIND 28 LOCATIONS, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

SO WE ARE HERE TO ECHO YOUR RESOLUTION AND SUPPORT A COUNTYWIDE POLLING LOCATIONS, AND WE SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, SUSIE.

MM-HMM .

AND CREW.

.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU LADIES.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT? OKAY.

SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL

[2. Presentation/Discussion of the Rockwall County Library Annual Report, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)]

MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, PRESENTATION DISCUSSION OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY LIBRARY ANNUAL REPORT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

MARCINE, I'M GONNA HAND THIS OVER TO COMMISSIONER LICHTY, WHO'S GONNA VERY QUICKLY GIVE IT TO YOU.

SO COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

YEAH, VERY QUICKLY.

UM, I HAD THE HONOR OF BEING APPOINTED LIAISON TO THE LIBRARY BOARD, UH, AT EARLIER THIS YEAR.

AND, AND OUR MEETINGS HAVE FOUND OUT MORE ABOUT ALL THE GREAT WORK THEY DO.

I'VE ALWAYS KNEW, KNOWN THEY DID A GREAT JOB, BUT HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH MORE.

AND, UM, OUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR MARCINE JUST FILED OUR ANNUAL REPORT WITH THE STATE, AND IT SHOWS SOME PER VERY IMPRESSIVE STATISTICS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING AT THE LIBRARY.

SO I ASKED HER IF SHE WOULD PLEASE GIVE SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT THE LIBRARY DOES AND HAS DONE IN THE LAST YEAR HERE TO OUR COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

SO, WITH THAT, MARCINE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

I WILL SEE IF I CAN MAKE THAT ANY LARGER ON THE SCREEN.

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THIS IS THE MONTH, THIS IS THE MONTH BY MONTH SUMMARY, WHICH YOU CAN LOOK AT LATER AT YOUR LEISURE.

I'M GONNA GO TO THE LARGER SUMMARY AS SOON AS I UNDERSTAND THIS COMPUTER.

OKAY.

IT'S A LITTLE MORE READABLE.

SO WE PREPARE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES COMMISSION EVERY APRIL.

AND IT IS FOR THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR.

SO THIS IS FISCAL YEAR 24 FOR OUR LIBRARY.

UM, WE HAD A GOOD YEAR.

WE HAD OVER 166,000 PATRONS VISIT THE LIBRARY.

THAT'S THE GATE COUNT THAT COUNTS.

HOW MANY COME IN? UM, IT'S DIVIDED BY TWO, SO IT'S NOT EVERYONE COUNTED TWICE.

WE CIRCULATED OVER 20 264,500 PHYSICAL ITEMS. THAT'S BOOKS, DVDS, UM, PHYSICAL AUDIOS.

AND THEN WE ALSO CIRCULATED ALMOST 53,000 EBOOKS AND EAUS, WHICH ARE THINGS THAT YOU DOWNLOAD THROUGH EITHER THE OVERDRIVE OR THE CLOUD LIBRARY SERVICE.

WE ISSUED CARDS TO MORE THAN 3,400 NEW PATRONS, AND OUR PUBLIC COMPUTERS WERE USED 6,477 TIMES.

AND THEN THE CHILDREN'S COMPUTERS SEPARATELY WERE USED OVER 5,000 TIMES.

UM, FOR OUR IN-HOUSE KIDS PROGRAMS, WE HAD ALMOST 32,000 ATTENDEES.

OUR ADULT LITERACY PROGRAM, WHICH, UM, WE TELL YOU ABOUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, IT'S PRIMARILY FUNDED BY THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, BUT THE COUNTY DOES PAY FOR ONE HALFTIME PERSON TO SUPERVISE IT.

WE HAD OVER 1900 STUDENT SESSIONS, OVER 22,000 STUDENT HOURS.

WE HAD THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, 31 INDIVIDUAL TUTORS WHO WORKED EVERY MONTH FOR 4,500 TUTOR HOURS.

AND THEN WE HAD A LIST OF THE EXPENDITURES, WHICH I'LL LET YOU ALL GO THROUGH.

UM, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD VOLUNTEER PROGRAM.

WE HAD OVER 9,000 TOTAL VOLUNTEER HOURS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WHICH GREATLY HELPS OUR STAFF BE AVAILABLE TO WORK ON PROGRAMMING, WHICH IS A HIGH PRIORITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

FOR THE SIZE OF THE COLLECTION, WE HAD 128,400 PHYSICAL ITEMS, 354,000 ELECTRONIC ITEMS FOR YOU TO CHOOSE FROM.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE IN CONSORTIA FOR THE ELECTRONIC ITEMS WE SHARE WITH BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, ABOUT 70 DIFFERENT LIBRARIES.

SO THE EBOOKS, YOU HAVE A GREAT CHOICE OF EBOOKS MORE THAN JUST WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO AFFORD.

AND THEN OUR TOTAL COLLECTION WOULD BE OVER 480,000 ITEMS, AS WELL AS 71 COMMERCIAL DATABASES.

UM, WE RECEIVED OVER A MILLION, $300,000 FROM THE COUNTY AND 38,000 IN GIFTS, DONATIONS, AND GRANTS AND FINES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARCINE? NO, I JUST HAVE A, A COMMENT.

UM, MARCINE AND I SPOKE YESTERDAY AND I WAS JUST SO IMPRESSED WITH THE, THE NUMBER THAT SHE JUST TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS THE ELECTRONIC MATERIAL UNITS AND HOW THAT CONSORTIUM OF SORTS WORKS.

'CAUSE I WAS LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW ALL THAT.

I'VE BEEN SPENDING TOO MUCH ON KINDLE.

I AM GOING OVER TO THE LIBRARY.

YES, MA'AM.

I'VE, I'VE SPENT, UH, AN ENTIRE DAY JUST DIGGING IN, SEARCHING FOR OBSCURE MONK PHILOSOPHERS, AND, UH, YOU CAN FIND IT.

YEAH, I CAN, YOU CAN FIND IT.

UM, THANKS SO MUCH, MARCINE.

I I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DID THIS, AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS BECAUSE THE VALUE THE LIBRARY BRINGS TO OUR COMMUNITY, UM, IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST THESE NUMBERS.

IT IS A COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE.

UH, YOU, YOU SERVE ALSO AS OUR LARGEST POLLING PLACE.

IT DOES A GREAT JOB.

YOU'RE ALWAYS MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE FOR, UH, CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO USE THE PARKING LOT.

UH, YOU ARE TRULY A COMMUNITY ASSET.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND I JUST WANNA REMIND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT THAT AS WE'RE COMING UP TO OUR BUDGETING SEASON, I'M SURE THERE WILL BE NEEDS FROM THE LIBRARY.

AND SO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THE

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GREAT WORK THEY'RE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

IF I MAY, I WILL MENTION ONE BUDGETING NEED THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING MORE OF.

WE ARE ON PROBATION WITH THE STATE LIBRARY BECAUSE WE ARE ONLY OPEN 49 HOURS A WEEK.

AND OUR POPULATION THAT THEY ASSIGN TO US HAS EXCEEDED A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

THEIR POPULATION THEY ASSIGN IS ADJUSTED.

THEY TAKE OUT PART OF ROULETTE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PUBLIC LIBRARY.

THEY TAKE OUT PART OF ROYCE CITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PUBLIC LIBRARY.

BUT OUR PART THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HAS FINALLY GONE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

SO WE'LL NEED FIVE ADDITIONAL OPEN HOURS PER WEEK, WHICH WE WILL NEED TO PAY SOMETHING FOR.

BUT I'LL LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT AT BUDGET TIME.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MARCINE, AND WELL DONE.

WELL DONE.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT BRINGS US TO

[3. Discussion of 89th Legislative Session Update/Overview County-related bills, and all related issues; (Commissioners Court)]

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION OF THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, UPDATE SLASH OVERVIEW, COUNTY RELATED BILLS AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER GALANA, YOU WANNA START? I, I, I KNOW YOU STAY NECK DEEP IN, IN LEGISL PRIORITIES.

YES.

YEAH.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S LEAST THREE FOURTHS OF MY LIFE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS GOOD.

IT'S OKAY.

UM, BUT I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF BILLS.

UM, GIVE A GENERAL UPDATE.

I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER M**K HAS SOME BILLS THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE SOME SPECIFICS ON AS WELL.

UM, HOUSE BILL 38 92, UH, BY REPRESENTATIVE BELL, UM, IS A BILL THAT, UM, WE NEED TO BE AGAINST.

IT LIMITS, UM, COUNTY REGULATION OF, UH, SUBDIVISIONS.

CAN'T REGULATE PROPERTY SIZE, CAN'T REGULATE NUMBER OF HOMES ON A LOT, CAN'T REGULATE SETBACKS.

JUST ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF.

WE CAN'T MANAGE THAT.

AND NOT THAT WE WANT TO BE OVERBEARING, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE, EVERY COUNTY IN TEXAS HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT STYLE, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP OURS HERE IN ROCKWALL COUNTY.

NOW, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US, UM, THIS BILL HAS A HEARING, UH, TOMORROW AT, UM, 8:00 AM.

UM, AND, UH, LAND AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.

SO IF ANYBODY'S LISTENING ONLINE OR HERE, YOU CAN TUNE IN AND, UH, AND WATCH THAT, UM, ONLINE.

AND, UH, PLEASE REACH OUT TO, UM, OUR REPRESENTATIVE AND OUR SENATOR, AND LET KNOW YOUR DISSATISFACTION WITH HB 38 92, SB 2354 BY REPRESENTATIVE CREIGHTON IS EQUALLY TERRIBLE.

UM, IT, IT ELIMINATES OUR AUTHORITY TO REVIEW PLATS AND PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY AND GIVES IT TO A THIRD PARTY.

SO JUST IMAGINE THIS.

WHY DO THEY WANT A THIRD PARTY TO COME IN TO REVIEW OUR PLATS, UM, AND OUR PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.

WHO DO YOU THINK WILL EVENTUALLY OWN THOSE COMPANIES? SO, WE'LL, WE'LL BE OUT OF THE LOOP.

DEVELOPERS WILL HAVE FREE REIGN, UH, AS TO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

SO WE, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP SOME OF THAT LOCAL DECISION MAKING HERE, WHERE WHEN YOU AS A CONSTITUENT DON'T LIKE SOMETHING, YOU CAN COME RIGHT TO US AND EXPRESS YOUR DISSATISFACTION WITH US.

AND, UM, AND YOU CAN SPEAK TO US WITH YOUR VOTES IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT OUR ACTIONS ARE.

UM, THIS WILL TAKE AWAY SOME OF THAT AND GIVE IT TO A THIRD PARTY.

SO THIS HAS A HEARING ON THE 24TH, WHICH IS THURSDAY, UM, AND ALSO IN LAND AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.

SO TUNE INTO THAT IF YOU CAN.

AGAIN, UH, SB 2354, PLEASE REACH OUT TO SENATOR HALL, REPRESENTATIVE PEARSON, AND, UH, AND LET HIM KNOW THAT SB 2354 IS NOT SOMETHING WE WANNA SEE HAPPEN.

COMMISSIONER M**K.

AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA KIND OF FOLLOW ALONG WITH THAT.

I'VE GOT TWO, UM, SENATE BILLS THAT WE OPPOSE AND, AND THEY REALLY SUPPORT THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE WORDING THAT WE HAVE IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND I'LL, I'LL READ, I'LL START, THERE'S JUST TWO I'M GONNA GO OVER TODAY.

UM, ONE IS SENATE BILL EIGHT 40.

UM, IT IS RELATING TO, TO CERTAIN MUNICIPAL REGULATIONS, OBVIOUSLY COUNTIES AS WELL FOR CERTAIN MIXED USE AND MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, AND CONVERSION OF CERTAIN COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS TO MIXED USE AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL OCCUPANCY.

SO WE ARE OPPOSING THAT.

UM, IT, IT, AGAIN, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT SUPPORTS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH WAS ABOUT DENSITY.

AND THIS BILL WILL, THIS BILL, IF IT IS, IF IT, IF IT PASSES, IT WILL BE, IT WILL CAUSE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN NOT TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS OUR VISION FOR OUR CITIZENS TO HAVE LESS DENSE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY LIVE IN.

AND, UM, AND, AND, AND I THINK BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT THE, THE MULTI, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CERTAIN COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ALSO THAT'S GONNA BE TAKING AWAY THEN FOR SOME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT EITHER MUNICIPALITIES OR IF IT'S IN THE COUNTY, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS.

UM, THAT DOES HAVE A HEARING TOMORROW.

UM, 4 23.

UM, IT'S LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

UM, I ALSO, I THINK, IS IT LAND, LAND USE, LAND AND USE RESOURCE.

OKAY.

YEP.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS ON THE SAME AS, ON THE SAME THAT SUPPORTS THE STRATEGIC PLAN

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OR AGAINST IT, WE OPPOSE IT.

IT'S SENATE BILL 8 78.

IT'S RELATING TO THE LIMITATIONS OF THE USE OF PUBLIC MONEY THAT'S UNDER CERTAIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OR PROGRAMS THAT ARE ADOPTED BY CERTAIN POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS.

UM, IT WILL, UM, IT WILL IN, UM, IT, IT'LL, IT'LL TARGET CHAPTER THREE 80, WHICH IS AGREEMENTS THAT ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES.

IT'LL HINDER NOT ONLY OUR ROCKWALL EDCS, BUT AS WE MOVE INTO OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY, SUCH AS WHERE THE, UM, THE, UM, OUTER LOOP COULD POSSIBLY GO THAT'S IN THE COUNTY THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HINDER US FROM CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENTS AS WELL.

SO, UM, WHILE WE SUPPORT TRANSPARENCY, WE CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO, TO HAVE THESE COMPANIES NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE NEGOTIATING OPPORTUNITIES.

SO THOSE ARE TWO RIGHT THERE THAT I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU ABOUT.

AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER, UM, JUST INFO FOR EVERYONE IN HERE IS THAT THIS WEEK IS THE LAST WEEK FOR HOUSE BILLS TO BE PASSED AND DB OR TO BE CONSIDERED, THEY HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED AND PASSED BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

UM, THE SENATE, THEY WILL HAVE, UM, THROUGH THE FIRST FULL WEEK OF THE MAY, UH, BEFORE THEY WILL BE DYING.

ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT IN THOSE TIME PERIODS, THEY TYPICALLY DIE.

SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH EVERYONE.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER LICHTY, COMMISSIONER STACY IS THE LAND AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, IS THAT A SUBCOMMITTEE OR IS THAT AN ACTUAL COMMITTEE? UH, IN THE HOUSE.

IT'S AN ACTUAL COMMITTEE.

UM, LAND AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

SO IT'S GETTING A TRUE COMMITTEE HEARING.

IT'S GETTING A, IT'S ONE OF THOSE, IT GETTING A TRUE COMMITTEE HEARING.

AND THEN, AND THEN 2354 IN THE SENATE, UM, IS ACTUALLY GONNA GO TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT NOW.

UM, SO, WHICH IS AN ACTUAL COMMITTEE AND NOT SUB, WHICH IS ANOTHER ACTUAL COMMITTEE AND NOT A, NOT A SUBCOMMITTEE AS WELL.

SO THESE ARE BOTH, AND BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE, UM, THINGS ARE GONNA HAPPEN REALLY FAST, UM, UNTIL THEY SUSPEND THE RULES.

AND YES.

AND THAT WILL HAPPEN , BUT THEY'RE GONNA TRY, THEY'RE GONNA SPEED THINGS UP AND IT'S GONNA BE, UH, BREAKNECK SPEED FOR A WHILE.

SO WE WILL, UH, WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT PLEASE GET INVOLVED.

AND OVERALL, I MEAN, I, I KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF MY PEERS HERE ON THE COURT KNOW, BUT THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 36 BILLS THAT, UM, WE'RE, THAT A GROUP ARE, ARE WATCHING VERY, VERY CLOSELY.

AND, UM, OF THOSE 10 OF 'EM ARE IN THE SENATE AND 26 OF 'EM ARE IN THE, UM, IN THE HOUSE.

AND WE ONLY SUPPORT TWO OUT OF THOSE 36.

SO THERE ARE 34 BILLS THAT W THAT, UM, THE COUNTY AS WELL AS MUNICIPALITIES ARE OPPOSING BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE AWAY LOCAL CONTROL.

LET, LET ME TALK ABOUT ONE OF 'EM.

WE SUPPORT HOUSE BILL 6 0 2.

YES.

UH, QUITE SIMPLY SAYS THAT A DIRECTOR OF A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT BOARD HAS TO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

NOW, THAT SEEMS LIKE SUCH A SIMPLE THING.

UH, BUT IT, IT, IT IS NOT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S IN LAND AND RESOURCE WHERE IT'S SITTING.

UM, UH, AT THE URGING OF COMMISSIONER STACEY, I, I SENT AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE JUST ASKING THEIR STANCE.

UH, AND, AND I'VE GOTTEN ONE RESPONSE, UH, THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING EXCEPT THEIR STANCE ON IT.

UH, BUT THEY DID TELL ME THAT THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL AMENDMENTS THAT THE BILL'S BEEN CHANGED.

YOU, YOU CAN'T FIND THOSE ANYWHERE PUBLISHED FOR, UH, US TO CONSUME OR SEE IF WE LIKE THE AMENDMENTS OR DON'T LIKE THE AMENDMENTS.

YEAH.

COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTES.

THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT PUBLISHED.

SO IT, IT, WELL, IN MY FEAR IS WE, I SIT HERE AND SAY, I AM FOR HOUSE BILL 6 0 2, AND I AM, AS IT'S WRITTEN, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE SAYS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT CHANGES IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT CHANGES IT, IF IT MAKES IT BETTER IF IT SAYS THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT, BUT NOT REALLY.

UH, SO IT, IT, IT IS, AS COMMISSIONER ANA SAID, IT'S, IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB JUST KEEPING ON, STAYING ON TOP OF, OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO, YEAH.

I WANNA SAY ONE OTHER THING.

JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT THE TEMPERAMENT OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE IS ON WHY THIS LOCAL CONTROL ATTACK IS WHAT I CALL IT, IS REALLY HAPPENING.

AND IT'S BECAUSE COMMENTS ARE BEING MADE.

LIKE, LIKE THIS ONE, ZONING AND REGULATION ARE JUST ON LOAN FROM THE STATE.

WHO MADE THAT THAT? WELL, MANY PEOPLE HAVE MADE THAT, THAT, THAT IS, UM, THE, I WOULD SAY THE FACTORY SETTING.

RIGHT NOW, OUR STATE IS THE FACTORY SETTING LEGISLATURE IS, THEY, THEY HAVE ALL THE POWER.

THEY'VE LOANED POWER TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT THEY CAN TAKE BACK.

AND THEY'VE LOANED POWER TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT THEY CAN TAKE BACK.

AND THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CONSOLIDATING THAT POWER BACK AT THE STATE.

YEAH.

SO AGAIN, REACH OUT TO YOUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE AND SENATOR AND TELL 'EM THAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY THINK THAT LOCAL CONTROL

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IS ON LOAN FROM THE STATE, AND THAT THEY CAN TAKE THAT AWAY AT ANY TIME.

THEY DON'T LIKE IT WHEN WASHINGTON DOES THAT TO THEM.

SO WHY SHOULD THEY DO THAT TO US? JUDGE, IF I COULD, AND THIS IS SOMETHING NEW, THIS WASN'T SOMETHING YOU HEARD BEFORE THIS SESSION.

UM, SO I, I WOULD SAY GOING BACK THREE SESSIONS, THEY WHISPERED IT, RIGHT? THEY DIDN'T SAY IT OUT LOUD LAST SESSION.

THEY SAID IT OUT LOUD, BUT DIDN'T PUT ANY ENERGY OR EFFORT BEHIND IT.

THIS SESSION, THEY'RE SAYING IT OUT LOUD AND PUTTING ENERGY AND EFFORT BEHIND IT.

AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY ENERGY AND EFFORT.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY ACTIVELY ATTEMPTING TO CONSOLIDATE POWER IN AUSTIN, UH, A AS AS WE SPEAK.

SO IT, IT'S BEEN A THREE SESSION JUST GETTING LOUDER, LOUDER, LOUDER, LOUDER.

RIGHT.

MORE ACTIVE.

I, I, I TRULY FEAR WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THIS SESSION.

AND IF WE SOMEHOW SURVIVE NEXT SESSION IS, IS, IS, IS GONNA BE A MESS.

RIGHT.

MY POINT IS, THIS HAS BECOME A TALKING POINT.

YES.

AND IT'S, AS YOU SAID, THE FACTORY LANGUAGE.

AND FOR ANYONE WHO'S LISTENING, UH, THE, THE BILL THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GOANA MENTIONED SENATE BILL 2354, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY INTENSE, UH, CONVERSATION AND, UH, PROJECT THAT YOU CALLED RIVER ROCK TRAILS.

THERE'S GONNA BE A HEARING ON THIS, ON THE APPORTIONMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT LATER THIS WEEK.

UM, AND THE REASON THAT THAT WAS DISAPPROVED IN MY OPINION, IS BECAUSE THIS COURT IS ACTIVELY INVOLVED.

AND IF WE REVIEWED THE PLAT AND IF PLAT REVIEW AND APPROVAL WAS PASSED TO A THIRD PARTY, THAT WOULD END.

SO IT, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW CRITICAL IT IS AND HOW CRITICAL IT IS.

THESE BILLS ARE NOT JUST STATEWIDE, BUT FOR OUR COUNTY.

SO, UH, CONTACT YOUR REP AND SENATOR AND SPEAK OUT.

'CAUSE WE'RE ALL ON THIS ONE.

I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO AGENDA

[4. Discuss/ Act on updates and progress related to the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)]

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE COURTHOUSE, COURTROOM ADDITIONS, THIRD FLOOR PROJECT, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER GUANA, WELCOME.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SO BIG UPDATE.

I'VE GOT SOME GOOD NEWS AND SOME NOT SO GOOD NEWS.

BOTH, UH, COMBINED HERE.

UM, SO, UH, WE ACTUALLY GOT THE PRICING FOR THE ALTERNATE, UH, FOR THE MILLWORK.

UH, WE REALIZED THE FULL PRICE OF THAT ALTERNATE, UH, SAVINGS.

SO WE GOT THE FULL $166,000 IN SAVINGS INSTEAD OF THE 130 OR SO THAT WE ANTICIPATED.

UM, SO THAT'S GONNA BE HELD IN THE, INTO THE, IN THE CONTRACT AS AN OWNER'S CONTINGENCY FOR ANY SPENDING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE RE-ASKING THE COUNTY FOR MORE MONEY FOR ANYTHING.

UH, WHICH BRINGS US TO THE SECOND CHANGE ORDER THAT POPPED UP IS, UM, WE HAD SOME FIRE SUPPRESSION LINES THAT WERE UNDERSIZED, UM, THAT WERE EXISTING.

THOSE NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO CODE.

UH, THEY WERE, THERE'S A CALCULATION FOR THE, THE, THE DIAMETER OF THE PIPES THAT ESSENTIALLY NEEDS, UM, TO BE LARGER TO FEED, UH, ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE CORNERS OF THE, OF THE CORD.

UM, SO THAT IS A CHANGE ADD OF ROUGHLY 32 AND A HALF THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UM, AND THAT WILL COME OFF THE CONTINGENCY.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S TWO OTHERS CHANGE ORDERS THAT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON.

UM, ONE IS THE CHANGE FOR, UM, THE TREASURER'S DEPARTMENT CORRIDOR THAT IS STILL BEING PRICED.

UH, AND THE SECOND ONE IS A SAVINGS, UH, FROM THE EXTRA ELEVATOR, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT WE FOUND INSIDE THE ELEVATOR SHAFT, UH, WHEN IT WAS DEMOLISHED.

SO THAT I ANTICIPATE WILL BE CLOSE TO A WASH.

SO THE CONTINGENCY SHOULD SIT ABOUT $130,000.

UH, ONCE THESE ARE, UH, SIGNED AND, AND SENT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HEY, DO WE DEDUCT FROM CONTRACTS FOR SUBCONTRACTORS THAT GET TO WORK IN AIR CONDITIONING? ? I DON'T THINK WE, I DON'T THINK WE DO.

UH, 'CAUSE THEY, THEY ARE WORKING A LITTLE BIT OF EARLY TIME AND, UH, WEEKEND TIME HERE, SO, OKAY.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, A GIVE AND TAKE THERE.

I, I, I TOURED THAT AND I'M, I, I TOLD 'EM, I WAS LIKE, THIS IS THE NICEST CONSTRUCTION SIDE I'VE EVER WALKED ONTO.

IT'S, IT'S COMFORTABLE HERE.

WELL, I, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE STAYING HAPPY AND THEY'RE MOVING QUICK, SO, ALL RIGHT.

IT'S, IT'S EVEN BETTER.

VERY SMILING OVER THERE TOO.

YEP.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

ARE WE STILL ON SCHEDULE? YES.

UH, OUR ANTICIPATED SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS, UH, I BELIEVE LIKE JANUARY 6TH, JANUARY 7TH, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

UM, SO BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IN.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS, SALVADOR.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE, DISCUSS

[5. Discuss/ Act on updates and progress related to the American Rescue Plan monies and the planned County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

AN ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONIES AND THE PLANNED COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STACY.

YEAH, WE SEE, UH, MR. TCU WALKING UP HERE.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

NEW AND COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD MORNING.

LEMME JUST GET SET UP HERE REAL QUICK.

GO FROGS.

YEAH.

YEAH, GO FROGS.

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I DIDN'T GO THERE, BUT GO.

FROGS IS SECURITY HERE.

I'M ON COMMISSIONER STACEY'S TEAM.

JUST, I JUST HAVE TO REMIND HIM THAT SOMETIMES WELL, THINGS ARE GOING WELL IN THE COUNTY ANNEX BUILDING.

UM, CONTINUE TO HAVE EXCELLENT SAFETY, UH, PERFORMANCE ON SITE WITH NO INJURIES OR INCIDENTS TO REPORT ON.

UM, THEY'RE FOLLOWING THEIR SAFETY PLAN AS EXPECTED.

UH, WE ARE STILL PERFORMING UNDER BUDGET.

UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL PCOS THAT WE'LL GET INTO AFTER THIS BRIEF UPDATE.

UM, OUR SCHEDULE IS STILL IN GOOD SHAPE.

WE ARE FALLING A LITTLE BEHIND ON THE FURNITURE PROCUREMENT.

UH, SO WE'RE WAITING, UH, FOR THOSE DATES TO GO AHEAD AND INFORM OUR SCHEDULE.

UM, THE PAST FEW WEEKS, UH, A LOT, LOT WAS COMPLETED.

UH, THEY STARTED THE FLOOR PREP FOR THE CONCRETE SEAL SEALER INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

UM, THE WINDOW INSTALLATIONS IS A BIG ONE.

UH, THEY STARTED, STARTED CEILINGS, FIRST COAT OF PAINT.

UM, THE GAS SERVICE GOT CUT ON.

UM, THEY STARTED THE RTU SOFT STARTUP.

UH, THIS WEEK.

THE AC UNITS RTUS, UM, THE WATER HEATER AND THE WATER HEATER IS SET ON SITE.

THE BOOSTER PUMP, I THINK IS BEING SET THIS WEEK.

THE CERAMIC TILE IN THE RESTROOMS IS LARGELY COMPLETE.

IT LOOKS REALLY NICE.

UM, THEY WERE, LAST TIME I WAS THERE, WHICH LAST THURSDAY, THEY WERE FINISHING THE, UM, GROUT.

SO IT'S PROBABLY COMPLETE NOW.

THE GENERATOR IS SET AND ON SITE, AND THE STANDING SEAM PANELS ARE GOING UP.

LOOK, THE, THE STANDING SEAM PANELS ARE BLACK, AND THEY LOOK REALLY NICE WITH THE BUILDING.

MAKE THE COLORS POP OUT ON THE BRICK.

IF YOU GUYS GET A CHANCE TO, TO GO BY AND SEE IT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY NICE.

UH, THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE'LL BE FOCUSED ON FINISHING THE CONCRETE FLAT WORK.

THEY STARTED POURING THIS MORNING AT 5:00 AM TO FINISH ALL THAT WORK.

UH, SO THAT INCLUDES THE COLOR, UH, COLOR MATCHED, UH, CONCRETE AT THE ENTRANCE AND THE REST OF THE FIRE LANE.

UM, THE STOREFRONT INSTALLATIONS, THEY JUST RECEIVED THE HARDWARE FOR THAT.

UM, SO THEY'RE TAKING THE HARDWARE TO THEIR, UH, THEIR SHOP AND, AND MARKING UP THEIR STOREFRONTS, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE, THE HARDWARE.

AND THEN THEY'LL BE INSTALLING THAT HOPEFULLY, IF NOT THIS WEEK.

THEN EARLY NEXT WEEK.

UM, ACOUSTICAL DRY, UH, ACOUSTICAL CEILINGS AND DRYWALL CEILINGS WILL CONTINUE.

THE LIGHTING INSTALLATIONS WILL START UP, UH, RIGHT AFTER, UH, THEY'LL FOLLOW BEHIND THE CEILINGS, MILLWORK INSTALLATIONS COMING UP, WHICH IS A BIG ONE.

AND THEN, UH, THEY'LL BE FOCUSING ON THE SOFFIT PANELS AT THE MANSARD WALL UP ON THE HIGH ROOF.

UH, PROCUREMENT WISE, UH, OBVIOUSLY I, I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THESE.

THE STOREFRONT HARDWARE WAS RECEIVED.

UH, MILLWORK WILL BE HERE TOMORROW.

UH, THE AC TWO PANELS ARE ON ONSITE.

THAT'S FOR, UH, THE AREAS LIKE THE MULTIPURPOSE AND THE, UM, THE TAX OFFICE WHERE THERE WAS EXPOSED, EXPOSED CEILINGS.

UM, WAIT, WHAT'S AN A CT PANEL? IT'S A, IT'S JUST A ACOUSTICAL TREAT, UH, TREATMENT PANEL.

AND IT'S JUST GOT IT SOUND, SOUND.

DEAD PANELS.

IT'S, IT'S THESE, BUT IT WON'T HAVE THE GRID.

IT'LL JUST BE GLUED TO THE GOT IT.

THE DECK, THE METAL DECKING.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS SIR.

YEAH, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE IN TERMS OF PROCUREMENT, UM, QUALITY ASSURANCE, QUALITY CONTROL WISE.

BUT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE PHOTOS, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE, UM, THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT AROSE LATE YESTERDAY ON THE, UH, STAINED CONCRETE FOR THE DRIVE.

SO FOR THOSE THAT SAY, FOR THE UPDATE, I JUST WANNA SAY FOR THE RECORD, WE'VE NOT THERE YET.

ALL THE OTHER CONCRETE WORK IS SET TO GET DONE, BUT THE ACTUAL COLORED PART AT THE FRONT ISN'T.

SO THE TWO-WAY DRIVE WILL STAND AS IT IS FOR NOW, AND WE'RE WORKING ON FIGURING OUT WHEN THAT DATE WILL BE FOR THEM TO COME BACK OUT.

IT WAS VERY LATE.

OKAY.

YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

I'M INFORMING YOU JUST NOW AND EVERYONE ELSE.

INTERESTING.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED.

BUT YOU CAN TALK TO BARRY AFTER YOU'RE DONE.

I THOUGHT I GOT THEM GUYS.

JUST CALL ME EVERY TIME, BUT GUESS NOT.

UM, SO QUALITY ASSURANCE, ENERGY INSPECTION.

UM, ALL THE ENERGY INSPECTIONS HAVE BEEN GOING WELL.

UH, THEY SHOULD HAVE AN ENERGY FINAL SOON FROM BUREAU OF VERITAS.

UM, THERE WERE A FEW ISSUES WITH LEAKING WINDOWS WHEN THEY DID THE SPRAY TEST.

UH, THEY SINCE HAVE, UH, COME UP WITH A

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SOLUTION TO THAT AND THEY'LL MOCK IT, MOCK IT UP ON SITE FOR ME TO, TO REVIEW AND, AND ACCEPT.

UM, BUT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE, SO I'M GLAD.

AND THEY AVOIDED HAVING TO TAKE THEM OUT COMPLETELY AND REINSTALL, WHICH IS GOOD.

UM, STILL WAITING FOR THE, THE CORE TESTING RESULTS.

UM, THAT'S FOR THE CONCRETE AT PAR, PART OF THE FIRE LANE.

UH, FIRST WEEK OF, OF MAY, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A SAFETY STAND DOWN WITH THE SUBCONTRACTORS.

UH, THAT'S WHEN HILL AND WILKINSON, THEY'LL, THEY'LL GIVE A SPEECH ON SAFETY, AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL FEED THE SUBCONTRACTORS ON SITE.

I WAS THINKING THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SCHEDULE THE, THE END USER TOURS AROUND THAT DATE.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

MAY 5TH THROUGH MAY 9TH ARE THE DAYS THEY'RE TARGETING.

SO, UH, JUST QUICKLY, A FEW PHOTOS.

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE CEILINGS GOING IN.

TAX OFFICE.

GOT THE FIRST COAT OF PAINT, UH, CORRIDORS, UH, TAPED IN BED.

WHAT'S THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TAX OFFICE? UM, THE, AS FAR AS THE, THE, THE FRONT, FRONT FACE FOR THE CUSTOMERS TO COME AND LOOK AT AND PURCHASE THEIR TAX TAXES.

THERE'S 10 OF THEM.

10.

10, YEP.

10 TRANSACTION DESK.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE UPDATE.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR NICO? I HAVE ONE QUE SO ON THE WINDOW ISSUE WHERE YOU SAID THERE WAS A, WE HAD SOME LEAKS MM-HMM.

BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE 'EM OUT.

AND I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT YET, BUT YEAH, WHEN YOU DO, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT'S A PERMANENT, AS PERMANENT AS CAN BE SOLUTION AND NOT SOMETHING JUST TO GET US THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

ABSOLUTELY.

I JUST DON'T, I DON'T WANNA BE DONE AND HAVE AN ISSUE WITH LEAKY WINDOWS AFTER OH YEAH.

PEOPLE IN, BECAUSE THEY'RE, I UNDERSTAND.

GONNA FIX IT WITHOUT TAKING THEM OUT.

YEAH.

AND I, I'VE BEEN THE WINDOWS SPECIFICALLY AND HOW THE FLASHING IS WHEN THEY PUT IT ON THE MOCKUP.

I MENTIONED SOMETHING ON OUR FINAL MOCKUP REVIEW COMMENTS, JUST ADDRESSING ANY ISSUES THERE.

UM, SOMEHOW IT STILL, WE STILL GOT HERE AND IT GOT INSTALLED.

SO I'M, I'M ON TOP OF IT.

BIGGER.

THANK YOU.

THEY WANTED, SO THEY'RE PROPOSED TO TAKE SOME OF THE BRICK AROUND AND PUT A NEW FLASHING PIECE AND EXTEND IT OUT FURTHER INTO THE BRICK AND THEN PATCH THE BRICK BACK VERSUS TAKING THE WHOLE THING OUT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY PROPOSE.

SO WE WILL, UH, I'LL STAY ON TOP OF 'EM AND MAKE SURE IT'S A, A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR SURE.

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR NICO? THANK YOU, NICO.

YEP.

APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT BRINGS US TO

[6. Discuss/ Act on the Sheriffs remodel project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

AGENDA ITEM SIX, DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STACY, BEFORE I PUNT TO NICO, UM, I, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SCHEDULING A MAY 13TH WORKSHOP.

UM, WE HAVE ALL THE PARTIES, UH, TOGETHER AND IN LINE, UM, AT OUR LAST OAC MEETING.

UM, WE BROUGHT THIS SUBJECT UP AND JUST KIND OF WORKED AS A GROUP, UM, TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THAT WOULD WORK.

THAT IS A COURT DAY.

SO THE IDEA WOULD BE IN THE AFTERNOON WE WOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP, PARK HILL AND BROADUS AND THE SHERIFF'S TEAM AND THE, AND THE CONTRACTOR ARE ALL PLANNING ON BEING HERE, KINDA WALK THROUGH THE PROJECT, PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN, DISCUSS EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE, UH, MAY 27TH WOULD BE OUR GOAL DATE TO SIGN THE CONTRACT, TO BEGIN THE PROJECT, TO ACTUALLY BEGIN CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.

THAT'S OUR CURRENT GOAL.

SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE ABOUT TWO WEEKS BEFORE WE'LL HAVE A FULL, UM, THEN, UH, AFTER THAT MEETING, IF TIME ALLOWS, WE WOULD HAVE THE COURT KIND OF GO BE ABLE TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE PROJECT IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO TO SEE SOME OF THE ROOMS AND, AND WHERE THE EXPANSION'S GONNA BE.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, NICO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT, THAT IS, UM, BEING SET UP.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH OF AN UPDATE AT THIS MOMENT.

UH, A LOT OF THINGS ARE PENDING.

THE, YESTERDAY, THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS REQUEST FOR PRICING TO THEIR SUBS WENT OUT, UM, WITH THE A HUNDRED PERCENT GMP CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, OR SORRY, GMPA HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGN DRAWINGS.

UM, SO WE'RE WAITING FOR PRICING BACK ON THAT, BUT EVERYTHING IS GOING AS SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW, UM, TO HAVE THE GMP IN EARLY MAY.

SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR NICO? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, NICO.

YEP.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

STACY BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[7. Discuss/Act on approving Proposed Change Order No. 34, 36, 37, and 39 to the agreement with Hill & Wilkinson Construction Group for the Rockwall County Annex project, and all related issues; {Commissioner Stacy)]

SEVEN, DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 34, 36, 37 AND 39 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR THE ROCKWALL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND

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ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STACY.

YEAH.

AND NICO, CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR PRESENTATION WHERE YOU HAD THESE KIND OF YEAH.

UM, AT LEAST SUMMARIZED OUT.

AND I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH 'EM, UM, UH, WITH THE COURT AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

UM, THERE THEY ARE.

SO, MM-HMM .

34, UM, IS ADDITIONAL CONCRETE WORK AND GUARDRAIL.

THAT IS A 29,000, UH, $782, UH, POTENTIAL CHANGE ORDER UNDER THE CONTRACTOR CONTINGENCY.

UM, 35 WE WILL GET TO LATER.

IT'S NOT IN THIS AGENDA ITEM.

UM, 36 IS THE, IS DOOR CHANGES, WHICH, UH, CREATED A $4,300 OWNER CONTINGENCY.

UM, 37 IS TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT, UM, WHICH WAS ALREADY AN ALLOWANCE.

UM, IT'S $114,890.

WHEN YOU, IT SAYS IT IN ALLOWANCE.

THINK ABOUT IT AS MORE LIKE IT INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT WAS IN, IT'S, IT WAS ALREADY ALLOWED.

THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A CHANGE ORDER.

WE'RE JUST RELEASING THE MONEY FOR ALL THE DATA CABLES AND THE DATA PORTS AND EVERYTHING TO BE INSTALLED IN THE BUILDING.

UM, UH, YEAH.

EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER, THAT, THAT WAS ONE QUESTION I HAD FROM THIS.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING IT'S NOT A CHANGE ORDER.

THIS IS JUST LITERALLY PUTTING IN EQUIPMENT WE KNEW YOU WERE GONNA NEED ALL.

CORRECT.

THAT IS AN ALLOWANCE.

IT'S NOT COMING FROM ANY CONTINGENCIES.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN, UH, 39 IS PART OF, BASICALLY IT IS A GENERATOR AND ACTUAL WIRING ISSUES THAT AROSE WHEN WE WENT TO ACTUALLY WIRE THE BUILDING.

I MEAN, IT'S A CUSTOM BUILDING.

YOU TRY TO DESIGN IT, THEN THE CONTRACTORS SHOW UP AND YOU HAVE LOW VOLTAGE, HIGH VOLTAGE, UM, PLUS GENERATOR.

AND THAT'S 33,000 OF OWNER CONTINGENCY AS WE KIND OF WORK THROUGH OUR CHANGES TO GET THE BUILDING COMPLETELY WIRED.

SO THIS ACTION ITEM IS 34, 36, 37, AND 39.

UM, SO THAT IS, UH, SO 40 IS A SEPARATE ITEM.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE CHART YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

AND THEN, UM, THE TWO OTHERS HOLD ON, WHICH WOULD BE 35 AND 38 ARE IN CONSENT BECAUSE OF TIMING ISSUES.

THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN SIGNED OFF ON, UM, TO BE MOVED FORWARD QUICKLY.

THAT IS 35.

IT SAYS DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES.

THAT'S TO, TO FINISH THE BUILD OUT OF DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES.

IT'S THE DRYWALL, THE DATA PORTS, THE ELECTRICAL, EVERYTHING WITH THAT.

AND THEN 38 YOU CAN SEE IS GRADING.

THAT WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE POURING CONCRETE TODAY.

SO WE HAD TO GET THE GRADING APPROVED AND ALL THE DIRT WORK DONE SO THAT WE COULD GET TO THE CONCRETE WORK TODAY.

SO WE DIDN'T SLOW DOWN.

UM, ALL THE ACTIVATION OF THAT.

SO THOSE ARE ALL THE PCOS.

THE ACTION ITEM IS 34, 36, 37, 39.

QUICK QUESTION ON 36.

THAT IS A, A CHANGE OF DOORS.

UH, TWO PART QUESTION.

IS THAT COMING FROM OWNERS CONTINGENCY OR CONTRACTORS? OWNERS? OWNER'S CONTINGENCY? AND JUST BRIEFLY, WHY DID WE CHANGE THE DOORS? UH, THAT WAS A PART OF, SO THERE'S TWO THINGS ON PCO 36 THAT'S PART OF A SI NINE.

IT WAS THE DOOR AND HARD, UH, THE DOOR DOORFRAMES AND HARDWARE, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES CHANGES.

AND THEN ALSO, UH, WHEN WE WERE TOURING THE STORAGE ROOM, UH, WE IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR FRP ON THE WALLS, UH, JUST FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES.

AND, UH, KNOWING THAT THOSE WALLS ARE GONNA GET BUMPED AND SCRATCHED, UH, THE FRP WILL HELP PREVENT AND MAKE IT LOOK MUCH NICER.

SO, UM, THAT WAS AN AD.

BOTH THOSE WERE ADS.

SO IT'S COMING FROM OWNER'S CONTENT.

GOT IT.

SO THIS, WE'RE NOT CHANGING EVERY DOOR IN THE BUILDING.

NO, THIS IS, WE, WE'VE ADDED A DOOR BECAUSE OF A, A CHANGE AND WE'VE ADDED SOME FRP.

YES, ALL THAT.

THAT MAKES ME MORE COMFORTABLE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

NOPE.

I BELIEVE THIS REQUIRES ACTION.

OKAY, WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 34, 36, 37 AND 39 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR THE ROCKWALL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY.

I WILL SECOND IT.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LTE.

IS THERE FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THANK YOU, NICO.

YEP.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM

[8. Discuss/Act on approving Proposed Change Order No. 40 to the agreement with Hill & Wilkinson Construction Group for the Rockwall County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

EIGHT, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 40 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STACY.

ALRIGHT, SO IF YOU LOOKED AT YOUR AGENDA, THIS IS TAKING $915,900 OF PROJECT SAVINGS OUT OF THE ANNEX.

IT IS, UM, THE GOAL,

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UM, TO MOVE THIS TO THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL, BUT THAT DOES TAKE COURT ACTION.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS, UM, TO BE VERY CLEAR, THIS IS A PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER.

SO IF WE APPROVE IT, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ASKING HILL AND WILKINSON TO CREATE A NEW CONTRACT WITH THIS MONEY FREED FROM THAT CONTRACT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO REALLOCATE THE $915,900.

NOW, THIS IS ARPA MONEY.

THIS IS NOT ARPA INTEREST MONEY, SO IT WOULD NEED TO GO TO ANOTHER ARPA QUALIFIED PROJECT, WHICH IS WHY IT'S MY RECOMMEND, IT WILL BE MY RECOMMENDATION WHEN THIS OCCURS, WHEN THIS MONEY IS ACTUALLY FREED FOR US TO MOVE IT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE REMODEL, WHICH IS A, UM, UH, AN ARPA QUALIFIED PROJECT.

AND THE FINAL RULE OF ARPA, UM, THERE IS A, A, A VERY DIRECT RULING.

UM, WE, UH, COMMISSIONER LTI AND I GOT ON THE PHONE WITH LISA, UM, AND GRANT WORKS.

THERE IS A VERY SPECIFIC RULING THAT SAYS PROJECT SAVINGS CAN BE MOVED FROM ONE ARPA PROJECT TO ANOTHER ARPA PROJECT.

SO WE'RE NOT BENDING ARPA RULES.

IT IS A VERY CLEAR STATED ITEMIZED.

AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, I AM GOING TO, UH, I THINK YOU LIKE TO CALL THEM RESOLUTIONS OR MOTIONS.

THE MOTION WILL CITE THE VERY SPECIFIC ARPA RULE THAT WE'RE ACTING UPON, MOVING IT FROM ONE PROJECT TO THE OTHER SO THAT WE CAN CITE OUR AUTHORITY SO THAT THAT WOULD BE THE PLAN.

UM, BUT WE ARE AT THE POINT, UM, I THINK NICO CAN, CAN CONFIRM WHERE WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE, UM, PULLING THIS MONEY OUT.

THE CONTRACTOR FEELS COMFORTABLE, BROUGHT US, FEELS COMFORTABLE, WE'RE STILL LEAVING HEALTHY CONTINGENCIES WITHIN THE PROJECT.

MOST OF THIS IS SAVINGS OF, OF WHAT WE JUST HAD SET ASIDE TO DO THESE.

UM, I THINK LANDSCAPING AND MOVING, UM, IF WE EVER GET OUR FURNITURE PURCHASE DONE, LANDSCAPING AND MOVING ARE GOING TO BE THE LAST TWO BIG HURDLES FOR US TO, TO FIGURE OUT, UM, IF WE CAN GET THE CONCRETE BUTTONED UP, WHICH IS HOPEFULLY HAPPENING TODAY.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT ONE LITTLE STRIP.

SO WE FEEL REALLY GOOD.

UM, WHEN WE SAY A PROJECT IS UNDER BUDGET, AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE UNDER BUDGET.

AND THIS IS, UH, $915,900 OF THAT PROJECT RUNNING UNDER BUDGET.

I HAVE.

SO MY ONLY QUESTION ON COMMISSIONER STACY IS THAT WE'VE GOT ABOUT, WHAT, THREE, FOUR MORE MONTHS OF, OF COMPLETING THE, THE PROJECT MM-HMM .

ROUGHLY? YES.

DO WE AND YOU FEEL LIKE, UH, THE CONTINGENCY THAT WE, WE STILL HAVE LEFT REMOVING THIS 915,000 SAVINGS, WE WILL STILL NOT COME UP SHORT.

YEAH.

WE HAVE A HEALTHY CONTINGENCY LEFT, OWNERS AND CONTRACTORS.

YEP.

YEAH.

IT'S ALMOST, WE'RE STILL LEAVING ALMOST 400,000 ROUGHLY.

YEP.

IN CONTINGENCY.

YEP.

I HAVE PLANS FOR THE 400,000.

I WANT TO SAY ON THE RECORD, I FEEL OBLIGATED TO SAY THAT YOU SHOULD SAY IT ON THE RECORD.

'CAUSE I KNOW YOU DO HAVE PLANS FOR IT .

UM, BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST MAKE GOOD USE, UM, OF THIS, BASICALLY IT'S A FEDERAL GRANT.

I MEAN, HOWEVER YOU WANNA STATE IT.

SO, UM, WE WANNA MAKE THE BEST USE.

AND, AND JUST, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, I, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK A, WE TOOK A FEDERAL GRANT AND, AND OF COURSE, IF ANY OF Y'ALL REMEMBER, UH, THE FIVE OF US, UH, BEFORE, UH, COMMISSIONER LTI AND GOANA FOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.

BUT WE'VE TAKEN THIS GRANT AND THE INTEREST THANKS TO THE TREASURER AND THE AUDITOR AND OUR GOOD FINANCIALS, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PARLAY THAT INTO FINISHING THE THIRD FLOOR COURTROOMS TO GET ANOTHER NEEDED DISTRICT COURT INTO THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE BOUGHT TO OVER $200,000 WORTH OF NEEDED SHERIFF CARS AND, AND THINGS FOR THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE BUILT AN ANNEX BUILDING FOR NEEDED SERVICE UPGRADES TO THE COUNTY.

AND WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO COMPLETE THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL ALL FROM THAT ONE FEDERAL GRANT.

SO I JUST WANNA SAY WE'VE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB AS A TEAM, THE AUDITOR, THE TREASURER, AND US AS A COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND CREATE AND, AND BUILD IT INTO THE FACILITIES PLAN.

SO I'M GLAD THAT, THAT BARRY AND PARK HILL HAD A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN TOGETHER SO THAT WHEN THIS MONEY CAME AVAILABLE, WE KNEW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

WE HAD A PLAN, AND WE'RE FUNDING THAT PLAN AND WE'RE MAKING IT HAPPEN.

SO, I JUST WANNA SAY IT, IT IS, IT IS A GREAT JOB.

IT IS TAXPAYER MONEY.

I DON'T WANNA, FREE FEDERAL MONEY IS TAXPAYER MONEY, BUT USING IT TO ITS MAXIMUM EFFORT, I THINK WE'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB AS JUST A GROUP AND AS A COUNTY.

SO, UM, THIS IS JUST MORE OF THAT, OF RUNNING A PRO PROJECT.

WELL, UM, STAYING ON TOP OF IT AND NOT SPENDING, UM, NEEDLESS MONEY ON A BUILDING HAS, HAS BEEN A, A REMARKABLE THING.

SO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR EFFORT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO TO REITERATE, UH, THE AGENDA ITEM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, IS TO ESSENTIALLY REDO THE CONTRACT, LEAVING THE

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EXCESS MONEY EXPOSED.

WE'RE AT A LATER DATE, WE CAN COME BACK AND MOVE BACK.

IT, IT, IT IS TO HAVE HILL AND WILKINSON REDO THEIR CONTRACT TO LEAVE THE MONEY EXPOSED.

SO THAT WILL BE, THAT CONTRACT WILL BE ON OUR NEXT COURT.

GOT IT.

YEAH.

AND IT'LL BE A CHANGE ORDER YEAH.

OFFICIAL.

YEAH.

IT'LL BE A OFFICIAL CHANGE ORDER TO THE OWNER.

YEP.

AND, AND, AND WILL WE DO THAT IN ONE STEP, OR IS THAT A TWO STEP PROCESS? WILL WE, SO WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER LICHTY ? SO COMMISSIONER LICHTY AND I, UM, UH, GOT ON A CALL WITH GRANT WORKS YESTERDAY AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE FOR THAT EXACT REASON IS WHAT ARE THE LEGAL STEPS TO MAKE THIS OCCUR? SO WHAT WILL END UP HAPPENING IS, IS THERE'LL BE TWO ACTION ITEMS BACK TO BACK, AND, AND ONE WILL BE ACCEPTING THE ORDER, AND THE NEXT WILL BE PUTTING THAT MONEY IMMEDIATELY INTO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SO THAT WE NEVER, THAT MONEY NEVER COMES FREE AND WE NEVER TAKE CUSTODY OF IT SO THAT WE, SO THAT IT STAYS COMPLETELY OBLIGATED IN, UM, INTO ARPA APPROVED PROJECTS.

DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANY, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUMMARY.

WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IT.

.

UH, YEAH, THAT'S GREAT SUMMARY.

I, AND I, I KNOW WE'RE ALL TRYING TO BE AS EFFICIENT WITH OUR TIME AS POSSIBLE.

SO I'VE JUST BEEN SITTING HERE LETTING, UH, COMMISSIONER STACY EXPLAIN WHAT YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF.

UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

AND THE ONLY THING I'D CORRECT IS I THINK THE ORDER WE WILL DEAL WITH IT IN THE NEXT, IN THAT MEETING WILL BE DIFFERENT.

YEAH.

BUT WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH IT ALL.

VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT A BINDING CHANGE ORDER YET.

AND AS TO YOUR POINT, JUDGE NEW, THE MONEY IS NOT FREED UP NOW.

IT WILL BE FREED UP AND IMMEDIATELY TRANSFERRED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AT A LATER DATE.

THIS IS JUST EFFECTIVELY A, IT'S KIND OF A UNUSUAL WAY THAT THEY DO IT WITH PROPOSED CHANGE ORDERS AND THEN ACTUAL CHANGE ORDERS.

THIS WILL BE AN OFFICIAL CHANGE ORDER.

THESE PROPOSED CHANGE ORDERS DON'T CHANGE THE CONTRACT AMOUNT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

ON THE RECORD, , THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE CON WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY DOES NOT CHANGE THE CONTRACT.

NO, IT'S IMPORTANT WE DO IT ON TIMED PROPERLY.

YES.

UM, AND THAT LED ME, LEADS ME TO MY, MY NEXT QUESTION, THE, THE CHANGE OR THE OFFICIAL CHANGE ORDER.

DO WE WANT THAT? 'CAUSE DO WE WANT THAT SEPARATE FROM THE PCOS BECAUSE THE PCOS GO ON A CHANGE ORDER TOO, EVEN THOUGH THAT THEY'RE NOT CHANGING THE CONTENT? WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.

BUT YES, I'M GONNA CALL YOU THIS AFTERNOON AND FILL YOU IN ON ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND, AND, AND SAY, THIS IS HOW WE WANT IT DONE.

AND WE'LL GET WITH HILL AND WILKINSON AND WE'LL, WE'LL PUT IT ON THAT TREK.

OKAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU GUYS.

DON'T RUN OFF YET, NICO.

WE, WE, WE'VE NOT, WE'VE NOT VOTED YET.

THIS WHEELS COULD FLY OFF AT ANY MOMENT.

.

OKAY.

WELL, I'M, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 40 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR THE ROCKWALL COUNTY ANNEX.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

ARE THERE FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THANK YOU, NICO.

YEP.

OKAY.

THIS BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[9. Discuss and Act on Local Government Code 262.001 Appointment of Agent to make contracts for the Annex Building, Sheriff Renovation, and 3rd Floor Project Infill, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

NINE, DISCUSSING ACT ON A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 2 6 2 0.001 APPOINTMENT OF AGENT TO MAKE CONTRACTS FOR THE ANNEX BUILDING, SHERIFF RENOVATION, AND THIRD FLOOR PROJECT INFILL AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STACY? YES.

UM, I BELIEVE, UH, I THINK THIS, THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP, UM, IN A COURT, UM, A FEW COURTS BACK.

AND, UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER LTE, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND JUST TRYING TO FIND A GOOD WAY OF GRANTING THIS AUTHORITY THAT THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY LARGE THING THAT I THINK HAS BEEN SIMPLIFIED BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY INTO A MOTION THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

BUT JUST AS A RECAP, UM, THERE IS $75,000, I'M THE AGENT ON THE ANNEX, $75,000, AND THE AGENT ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BECAUSE NO ONE TRUSTS, UH, COMMISSIONER ALANI, HE GOT 25,000 ON THE THIRD FLOOR.

UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS, , ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS, IS, IS THE AMOUNT AND, AND THEN WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO.

SO, UM, WHAT WE WANNA DO IS MAKE THIS AUTHORITY EXTREMELY CLEAR, AND, AND I'M, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT THE CART BEFORE A HORSE, AND I'M NOT MAKING THE MOTION, BUT WHAT THE MOTION IS GOING TO INCLUDE IS THE APPOINTMENT OF THE AGENT, THE CONTRACT, AND THE AMOUNT.

BUT IT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT TYING IT TO THE CONTINGENCY OF THE PROJECT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST SOMEONE CAN'T JUST GO OFF AND, AND, AND SPEND MONEY.

WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S IMPLIED, BUT WE WANNA MAKE IT EXPLICIT AND NOT IMPLIED.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE APPROVE THE ORDERS THAT ARE APPROVED BY THE

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AGENT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A RATIFICATION BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

SO WHEN THOSE ITEMS ARE RATIFIED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THEN THE, THEN THE AUTHORITY KIND OF RESETS IF YOU, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

UM, SO IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE, LET'S JUST CALL IT $50,000 AND THAT YOU HAVE OBLIGATED 25,000, IT GOES TO THE NEXT COURT AND THE COURT RATIFIES THAT YOU NOW HAVE $50,000.

IF THE CONTINGENCY GOES TO ZERO, YOU HAVE ZERO.

YOU'RE MANAGING THE CONTINGENCIES AND THE UNEXPECTED AMOUNTS.

AND SO I THINK THAT THIS MOTION WILL DO THAT.

SO THE FIRST KIND OF CONVERSATION I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS HOW MUCH MONEY, UM, AND THEN ALSO, SORRY, UH, I WANNA RESEND ALL THE ORDERS.

SO, SO I HAVE, I HAVE 'EM DATE STAMPED, SO I JUST WANT THE COURT TO KNOW IT'S MY INTENTION BEFORE THIS IS DONE THAT WE WILL RESCIND ALL, IF WE WANNA GO THIS ROUTE, I'M GONNA MAKE MOTIONS TO RESCIND THE ORDERS AND TO REDO THE ORDERS.

I THINK IT'LL MAKE A CLEANER RECORD FOR WHAT IS GOING ON.

R-E-S-C-I-N-D? YES.

OKAY.

'CAUSE NOT RECENT OUT.

NOT RECENT TO TAKE AWAY TO VOTE THEM OUT.

OKAY.

UM, AND SO I WANNA VOTE THOSE MOTIONS DEAD AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, AND THEN REINSTITUTE THIS.

AND SO, UM, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT SAYING THAT, UM, YEAH, SO THEN I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT INTO THESE PROJECTS.

I THINK IT'S FAIRLY ARBITRARY AT 75, 75 25.

UM, THE SHERIFF'S PROJECT HASN'T BEGUN, SO I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I'M, I'M, I'M WORKING A, YOU KNOW, A $20 MILLION BILL, AND SO $75,000 FELT GOOD.

I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED, OR, OR ANYONE WOULD NEED 75,000 FOR THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL EXPLICITLY WHEN THOSE CONTINGENCIES ARE GONNA BE CUT, UM, DRASTICALLY IN HALF.

I MEAN, WE WERE WORKING WITH A MILLION DOLLAR CONTINGENCY ON THE ANNEX BUILDING FOR MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE TIME, SO I WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

UM, I THINK 75 IS PLENTY.

I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MORE .

AND, UM, AND THEN JUST LOOKING AT WHAT DO WE WANNA DO FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

AND THEN, UM, LOOKING AT JUST KIND OF CLEANING THE RECORD AND, AND DISCUSSING THE MOTION AND WHAT WE'RE TENDING TO DO.

BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, COMMISSIONER LTI.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER STACY.

YEAH.

WHEN I BROUGHT THIS UP A FEW WEEKS AGO, UM, IT WAS BECAUSE I REALLY WASN'T SURE WHAT OUR, WHAT YOUR AUTHORITY, THE AUTHORITY OF THE AGENT, NOT YOU OR BOBBY, BUT JUST THE AUTHORITY OF THE AGENTS IN GENERAL WAS, AND, UH, WE'VE CHECKED AND WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH AUDITORS, LOOKED AT MINUTES AND RESOLUTIONS, AND IT WASN'T, IT WAS NO CLEARER AFTERWARDS THAN PREVIOUSLY, I HATE TO SAY.

SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY IT.

UM, AND THE BIGGEST QUESTION I THINK WAS, WAS THAT AN AGGREGATE AUTHORITY OR A PER INDIVIDUAL ITEM AUTHORITY.

UM, AND IN THE MINUTES, THEY JUST SAID THE HAVE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE UP TO $75,000.

UH, AND IF YOU'RE WANTING TO DO THE $75,000 CHANGE ORDER, YOU LOOK AT THAT AS A PER ITEM.

UH, AND IF YOU'RE WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE'S NOT GETTING OUT OF CONTROL, YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT AS AN AGGREGATE.

SO WE MADE IT VERY CLEAR, AND THIS IS, LET ME EMPHASIZE ON THE RECORD, THIS IS NOT BECAUSE OF A LACK OF TRUST OF ANYONE, ANY AGENT.

NO ONE HAS BEEN ACTING OUTSIDE THEIR AUTHORITY.

IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE SHORE IT UP ON AN ONGOING BASIS SO WE UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THAT AUTHORITY IS.

AND SO, WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO, I PREPARED A RESOLUTION, WHICH I SENT TO COMMISSIONER STACY YESTERDAY, AND I THINK HE'S HAPPY WITH, UM, WHICH ESTABLISHES THAT ON A CONTRACT, EACH CONTRACT BASIS, WE APPOINT THE AGENT UNDER SECTION, I THINK IT'S 2 62 0.00, ONE OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, WHICH WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO, AND THEN WE CAP THE AUTHORITY ON AN AGGREGATE BASIS AT WHATEVER THE AMOUNT IS IN HIS EXAMPLE, $75,000.

BUT THAT ONCE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVES A RES, A CHANGE ORDER OR RATIFIES IT.

AND THE DIFFERENCE BEING THAT SOME OF THESE, WHEN HE ACTS AS OUR AGENT, HE BINDS THE COUNTY OR ANYONE WHOSE AGENT BINDS THE COUNTY.

SO IN SOME CASES, THAT WILL BE SIGNED BECAUSE OF THE URGENCY OF THE MOMENT, AND THE COUNTY WILL BE BOUND.

BUT THEN WHEN IT'S RATIFIED BY US, THEN THAT REDUCES THE AMOUNT HE'S APPROVED AND ALLOWS IT TO GO BACK UP TO WHATEVER THAT AUTHORITY IS.

SO I'VE TRIED TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLE OF A RESOLUTION AS POSSIBLE.

UM, DO WE HAVE COPIES OF THAT FOR EVERYBODY? UM, I, I DON'T, I CAN, I CAN GO PRINT 'EM OFF, BUT, BUT I, I DO THINK THAT WHEN, WHEN I GO TO MAKE THE FIRST MOTION, IT WILL MAKE SENSE.

THE, IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR LANGUAGE.

IT, IT IS NOT CONVOLUTED IN ANY WAY.

IT'S EXTRAORDINARILY CLEAR LANGUAGE MIGHT ADD.

WELL, PRIOR TO THAT, HAS THIS BEEN RUN BY LEGAL COUNSEL AT ALL? UM,

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NO, BECAUSE IT, IT DOES FALL WITHIN, UM, THE, THE AREA GRANTED, AND IT'S NOT, AND ALL IT IS DOING IS DEFINING THE POWER WE'RE ESTABLISHING WE'RE WE'RE NOT EXPANDING ANYTHING.

WE'RE NOT EXPANDING ANYTHING.

ARE ARE, ARE WE GOING TO EXPAND, UH, THE AMOUNT OF THE THIRD FLOOR COURTROOMS? I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO, I, I WOULD AGREE.

UM, BECAUSE, AND, AND COMMISSIONER LICHTY WAS CORRECT, THERE WERE JUST ARBITRARY NUMBERS.

I MEAN, WE JUST PULLED THEM OUT OF THE AIR.

AND, AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE KIND OF OUR FIRST DISCUSSION IS, IS, IS WHAT, WHAT POWER.

GRANTED, THIS MOTION WILL CLEARLY LINK THIS TO BASICALLY NON COURT ACTIONS, UNEXPECTED ITEMS, AND TO THE CONTINGENCIES.

SO WHEN THE CONTINGENCY'S GONE, YOUR AUTHORITY TO SPEND AND TO OBLIGATE THE COUNTY IS GONE.

CORRECT.

WHICH IS THE INTENT.

THAT'S, IT WAS ALWAYS THAT WAY, THAT THAT'S HOW WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA WORK.

IT NOW SAYS IT, WE DO HAVE AN AUDITOR, AND SHE WILL NOT LET YOU SPEND MONEY THAT'S NOT PUT INTO A, A PROJECT, BUT IT JUST MAKES IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK I WAS, UH, JOKING WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER TY WHEN WE WERE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS, IS YOU HAVE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS IN THESE CONTRACTS WHEN EVERYONE'S FRIENDS, SO THAT IF A COMMISSIONER DOES TRY SOMETHING AND, AND NO ONE HAS THAT, YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE MOTION AND SAY, THIS IS THE MOTION THAT WE GRANTED.

AND IT IS EXTREMELY CLEAR, AND IT IS EXTREMELY ON PURPOSE.

AND, AND THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON.

UH, JUDGE, COULD I SUGGEST WE TAKE A 10 MINUTE COFFEE REFILL? MAN, I, RECESS.

I WAS JUST TAKING, AND I'LL GO PRINT OFF COPIES OF THIS.

I'LL GIVE ONE TO OUR COUNCIL.

I'LL GIVE ONE TO EACH OF YOU AND, UH, WE CAN DEAL WITH IT.

YEP.

LET'S, SO AT 10 0 6, WE'RE GONNA TAKE ABOUT A 15 MINUTE BREAK.

THANK YOU.

WE ARE IN 10 20.

WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO OUR REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

WE ARE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.

I'M GONNA REREAD IT, UH, BRIEFLY DISCUSS AN ACT ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 2 6 2 0.001 APPOINTMENT OF AGENT TO MAKE CONTRACTS FOR THE ANNEX BUILDING, SHERIFF RENOVATION, AND THIRD FLOOR PROJECT INFILL AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STACY? YES.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

UM, SO THIS KIND OF TAKES THE DISCUSSION, UM, I THINK FULL CIRCLE TO THE AMOUNT, UM, IT'S, IT'S MY OPINION, UM, THAT 75,000 IS A GOOD AMOUNT BASED UPON MY WORK ON THE ANNEX BUILDING.

I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL, BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M GETTING THERE QUICKLY.

UM, IN BEING SOME SORT OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGER OF SOME SORT.

UM, I, I THINK THAT IT, THAT IT'S A GOOD AMOUNT IF, IF THERE IS A, A MAJOR PROBLEM THAT IS UNTIMELY.

I DO THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH TALKING WITH COMMISSIONER GOANA AND, AND WITH MY WORK ON THE ANNEX BUILDING, I'VE ONLY SIGNED FOR PCOS OUTSIDE OF COURT, AND THAT PRODUCT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A YEAR.

SO I THINK THAT IT'S OUR INTENT NOT TO USE AGENT POWER UNLESS WE HAVE TO.

SO I THINK 75 IS A GOOD AMOUNT.

IT'S TIED TO THE CONTINGENCY, IT HELPS THE PROJECT MOVE ALONG EFFICIENTLY.

SO, I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BUT I'M GONNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WHEN I GO TO MAKE THESE MOTIONS, I'M GONNA DO 75 ACROSS THE BOARD.

THAT'S MY INTENTION.

UM, AND SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING.

I THINK THINK 75 SOUNDS GOOD BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE SAID.

YEAH, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

SO, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, UM, FIRST, UM, SINCE THIS IS DISCUSS THE GOVERNMENT CODE IS I WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY TAKE AWAY THE THREE OLD CONTRACTS FOR THE RECORD INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE THIS MOTION SUPERSEDE THE OLD MOTION.

SO BASICALLY I WANT TO GET RID OF ALL AGENT POWER, AND I WASN'T TRYING TO DO THEM ONE AT A TIME.

SO DANIEL, UNLESS YOU CAN THINK OF ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO IT ALL TOGETHER, BUT I HAVE 'EM DATE STAMPED THE AUTHORITY OF THE AMOUNT IN THE PERSON.

SO I WAS JUST GONNA LOOK AND SAY I WOULD LIKE TO, ARE, ARE WE OKAY UNDER THE LANGUAGE THAT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN? YES, YOU ARE.

OKAY.

AND YOU CAN PUT ALL OF THOSE IN A SINGLE MOTION.

OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO, WAIT, WAIT, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES.

THERE'S, IF I REMEMBER IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, THERE'S A COUPLE PCOS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED.

YES.

UH, RESCINDING THIS WILL NOT AFFECT THOSE.

WILL IT? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TODAY'S CONSENT AGENDA, CORRECT? YES.

IN TODAY'S CONSENT AGENDA, NO, NOT UNLESS, I MEAN, THEY CAN IF YOU WANT THEM TO, BUT NO, I DON'T WANT 'EM TO, UH, THEN NO, AS LONG AS THE MOTION DOESN'T REFERENCE THOSE, THEN IT WON'T HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THEM.

SO WE WILL MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND AS TO ACTIONS TAKEN FROM AND AFTER THIS DATE, I, I WAS GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT TODAY'S DATE.

OKAY, GREAT.

YEP.

YES.

AND, AND THAT DOESN'T AFFECT WHAT WE'RE DOING LATER IN CONSENT AT ALL? NO, BECAUSE THOSE WERE SIGNED, UH, THE LATEST I THINK WAS FOUR 11.

SO WE'RE JUST RATIFYING THOSE BASICALLY.

YEAH, NO, WE'RE JUST RATIFYING THEM.

OKAY.

SO I'M GONNA ATTEMPT TO MAKE A MOTION.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO

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REMOVE THE AUTHORITY GRANTED UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE 2 6 2 0.01 APPOINTMENT OF AGENT TO COMMISSIONER STACY FOR $75,000 ON THE COUNTY ANNEX BUILDING FROM AUGUST 13TH, 2024 FROM COMMISSIONER STACY, $75,000 FOR THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL ON DECEMBER 10TH, 2024 AND $25,000 FROM COMMISSIONER ALANA ON JANUARY 28TH, 2025.

AND I WANT THE EFFECTIVE DATE TO BE APRIL 22ND, 2025.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO RESCIND ALL THREE ORDERS EFFECTIVE TODAY BY COMMISSIONER STACY.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES.

NOW, THE MOTION TO RESCIND IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY.

SO I'M GONNA MAKE THESE MOTIONS ALL SEPARATELY.

SO I'M GONNA GO IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE WRITTEN HERE.

SO, UM, I'M GOING TO READ IT.

UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION, UH, HEREBY PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED BY SECTION 2 6 2 0.001 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER GOANA TO ACT AS ROCKWALL COUNTY A, UH, AGENT WITH RESPECT TO THE THIRD FLOOR, UH, INFILL PROJECT WITH SUCH AGENT'S AUTHORITY BEING LIMITED TO APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDERS AND UNSCHEDULED EXPENSES AND AGGREGATE AMOUNT OF UP TO $75,000 OVER THE TERM OF SUCH CONTRACT WITH RESPECT TO CHANGE ORDERS AND UNSCHEDULED EXPENSES, EXPENSES WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED OR RATIFIED BY THE ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMISSION'S COURT.

PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH AGENT'S AUTHORITY IS FURTHER LIMITED TO APPROVING ANY SUCH CHANGE ORDERS OR UNSCHEDULED EXPENSES ONLY TO THE EXTENT OF UNUSED OR UNCOMMITTED FUNDS AVAILABLE AS CONTINGENCY FUNDS BUDGETED UNDER SUCH CONTRACT AND PROVIDED FURTHER THAT THE AUTHORITY GRANTED IN THIS MOTION MAY BE TERMINATED, MODIFIED, OR SUPPLEMENTED AT ANY TIME BY THE ROCKWELL COUNTY COMMISSION'S COURT.

WERE SUSPECT TO ACTIONS OCCURRING AFTER SUCH TERMINATION MODIFICATION OR SUPPLEMENT.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.

I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LTE.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

ONE DOWN TWO TO GO.

YES.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HEREBY MADE PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED BY SECTION 2 6 2 0.001 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER STACEY TO ACT AS A ROCKWALL COUNTY AGENT WITH RESPECT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE REMODEL WITH SUCH AGENT'S AUTHORITY BEING LIMITED TO APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDERS AND UNSCHEDULED EXPENSES IN AN AGGREGATE AMOUNT OF UP TO $75,000 OVER THE TERM OF SUCH CONTRACT WITH RESPECT TO CHANGE ORDERS AND UNSCHEDULED EXPENSES WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED OR RATIFIED BY THE ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH AGENT'S AUTHORITY IS FURTHER LIMITED TO APPROVING ANY SUCH CHANGE ORDERS OR UNSCHEDULED EXPENSES ONLY TO THE EXTENT OF UNUSED OR UN UNCOMMITTED FUNDS AVAILABLE AS CONTINGENCY FUNDS BUDGETED UNDER SUCH CONTRACT AND PROVIDED FURTHER THAT THE AUTHORITY GRANTED IN THIS MOTION MAY BE TERMINATED, MODIFIED, OR SUPPLEMENTED AT ANY TIME BY THE ROCKWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WITH RESPECT TO ACTIONS OCCURRING AFTER SUCH TERMINATION MODIFICATION OR SUPPLEMENT.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.

I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LTE.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

AND THE LAST ONE, UH, I MAKE A MOTION, UH, MADE PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED BY SECTION 2 6 2 0.001 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER STACY TO ACT AS ROCKWALL COUNTY AGENT WITH RESPECT TO THE ROCKWALL COUNTY ANNEX WITH SUCH AGENT'S AUTHORITY BEING LIMITED TO APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDERS AND UNSCHEDULED EXPENSES AND AN AGGREGATE AMOUNT OF UP TO $75,000 OVER THE TERM OF SUCH CONTRACT WITH RESPECT TO CHANGE ORDERS AND UNSCHEDULED EXPENSES WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED OR RATIFIED BY THE ROCKWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH AGENT'S AUTHORITY IS FURTHER LIMITED TO APPROVING ANY SUCH CHANGE ORDERS OR UNSCHEDULED EXPENSES ONLY TO THE EXTENT OF UNUSED OR UNCOMMITTED FUNDS AVAILABLE AS CONTINGENCY FUNDS BUDGETED UNDER SUCH CONTRACT AND PROVIDED FURTHER THAT THE AUTHORITY GRANTED IN THIS MOTION MAY BE TERMINATED, MODIFIED, OR SUPPLEMENTED AT ANY TIME BY THE ROCKWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WITH RESPECT TO ACTIONS OCCURRING AFTER SUCH TERMINATION MODIFICATION OR SUPPLEMENT.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL DONE.

THAT BRINGS US, I BELIEVE,

[10. Discuss/ Act on approval of Facility Use Agreement with fees waived for the use of Liberty Hall on May 9th, 2025, by the Rockwall County Bar Association for their Annual Bench Bar Conference, and all related issues; (Commissioner Ga Ilana)]

TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVAL OF FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH FEES WAIVED FOR THE USE OF LIBERTY HALL ON MAY 9TH, 2025 BY THE ROCKWALL COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR ANNUAL BENCH BAR CONFERENCE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER ANO.

ALRIGHT, SO,

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UM, THE BAR ASSOCIATION HAS ASKED, AGAIN, APPARENTLY THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE FOR, TO HAVE THEIR FEES WAIVED FOR THEIR, UH, ANNUAL MEETING AT LIBERTY HALL.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY'S HERE FROM THE BAR ASSOCIATION TO SPEAK.

WE'LL JUST MAKE CRAIG SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE ASSOCIATION.

I'M TOTALLY KIDDING.

.

UM, I JUST WANNA SAY I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING AN ANNEX ROOM SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SIT HERE AND YES, AGREED.

MAKE ALL OF THESE AMENDMENTS.

AND I JUST WANT ANY EMPLOYEE THAT'S LIKE LISTENING TO KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA BE OUR PREFERRED METHODOLOGY GOING FORWARD.

CORRECT.

UM, IS TO USE AN ANNEX ROOM INSTEAD OF WAIVING FEES AND, AND, AND DOING ALL THIS IN THE, UH, IN LIBERTY HALL.

BUT, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE A FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH FEES WAIVE FOR THE USE OF LIBERTY HALL ON MAY 9TH, 2025 BY THE ROCKWELL COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR ANNUAL BENCH BAR CONFERENCE.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, I I DO HAVE A QUESTION, UH, ABOUT INSURANCE.

UH, I DON'T SEE INSURANCE ATTACHED FROM, WHY DON'T WE ADD THAT TO THE MOTION? OKAY.

OR IF IT PLEASES THE COURT, I WILL REMOVE MY MOTION.

OKAY.

MY SECOND MOTION AND SECOND, BOTH REMOVED.

UM, I WILL MAKE A NEW MOTION TO APPROVAL, A FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH FEES WAIVE FOR THE USE OF LIBERTY HALL ON MAY 9TH, 2025 BY THE ROCKWALL COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR ANNUAL BENCH BAR CONFERENCE ON THE CONDITION THAT THEY GIVE US A CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE AND ADD US AS A NAMED INSURED.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.

I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OBJECTION.

WHOOP.

HOLD UP.

LEGAL.

I WAS RELUCTANT TO SPEAK, BUT I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD.

PLEASE, PLEASE DO.

UH, I, I'M NOT AWARE, SINCE THE ROCKWELL COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION, REALLY, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T CARRY INSURANCE THAT I'M AWARE OF.

AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LEAD TIME ON THIS.

I JUST KNOW THAT FOR THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, THEY'VE, THEY'VE HELD IT, UH, WITHOUT PROBLEM.

IT, IT JUST MAY BE THAT, UH, REQUIRING INSURANCE AS PART OF, OF PROVING THIS AGREEMENT MAY WELL BE A MEANS OF CANCELING THE PROGRAM.

IS IT, ISN'T THE BAR ASSOCIATION AN ENTITY, A LEGAL ENTITY? UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE 5 0 1 C3.

I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THE QUESTION ON THIS, AND, UH, NOR WAS EITHER REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE BAR ASSOCIATION.

I'M JUST MAKING A GUESS.

UM, AND I, AND I JUST THROW THAT OUT.

YEAH, I, AND I, I DON'T KNOW EITHER, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UM, I, I OVERSEE THE, THE ROTARY BUILDING AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE GROUPS, LIKE FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S DOING A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A, A WEDDING OR RECEPTION, I KNOW THAT WE SEND THEM TO A SITE THAT IS CALLED EVENT, UM, I THINK IT'S CALLED EVENT PLACE.COM, BUT DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT MM-HMM .

BUT WE SEND THAT TO THEM AND THEY'RE ABLE TO BUY, UM, VERY, VERY, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSERVATIVELY A A A A, SOME TYPE OF AN INSURANCE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, JUST SO THAT IF ANYTHING IS DAMAGED OR SOMETHING TO THAT EXTENT SURE.

THEY HAVE INSURANCE THAT THEY'VE PURCHASED IT THAT WILL HELP RECOVER THAT.

SURE.

SO I, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE, ONE OPTION WE USE AND, AND, AND I'M, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT WILLING TO SIMPLY BE THE MESSENGER YEAH.

TO LET 'EM KNOW.

I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE THAT IT COULD BE A PROBLEM.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT SITE PARTICULARLY WE'VE USED FOR OTHER EVENTS, IT CAN BE DONE IN, IN, IN LIKE AN HOUR.

OH, YEAH.

YEAH.

QUICK, EASY.

YEAH.

UM, OF COURSE, THEY'LL HAVE TO MEET TO, TO TAKE ACTION.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR NEXT MEETING IS? I DO NOT KNOW.

HUH.

WELL, THEY CAN DO A MEETING.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO COMPLICATE HOW AM I DOING? YEAH, THANK YOU.

WELL DONE, SIR.

WELL DONE AT, AT THIS POINT, I, I AM NOT PREPARED TO CHANGE MY MOTION.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K.

UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL WHOOPS, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

IT IS APPROVED CONTINGENT ON THE INSURANCE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, THIS BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 11,

[11. Discuss/ Act on reviewing bids and selecting a firm for the Night Vision Goggles and Equipment for the Sheriffs Office, and all related issues; (Judge New-Auditor)]

DISCUSS AND ACT ON REVIEWING BIDS AND SELECTING A FIRM FOR THE NIGHT VISION GOGGLES AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

SHERIFF GARRETT, MAN, CHIEF DEPUTY MCKNIGHT'S, JUST GONNA HANG HIM OUT TO DRY.

WAIT, WAVE HIM OFF.

.

I'M, I'M USED TO IT.

SO, , UM, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS, UH, THE ITEM THAT YOU LOOKED AT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO ON THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE, UH, NOT VISION EQUIPMENT WE, UH, ARE REQUESTING OUT OF OUR SEIZURE FUNDS.

AND THE BIDS WENT OUT AND WE GOT THE, GOT THE RESULTS.

I HAD A, HAD A BETTER RETURN THAN WHAT I WAS ANTICIPATING

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WE WOULD GET.

AND, UH, SO THE SCORING WAS DONE ON 'EM.

AND, UH, WE HAVE SELECTED A, UH, VENDOR FOR THESE THAT WOULD BE I IDENT MARKETING SERVICES OUT OF ROCKWALL.

SO WE GOT A LOCAL VENDOR.

YES, SIR.

WONDERFUL.

YEAH, THOSE BIDS CAME ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THEY WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THERE WERE SOME, UH, YEAH, I HAD ALEX DO, UH, A SPREADSHEET TO KIND OF MATCH APPLES AND APPLES ON THERE.

AND SO LOOKING AT, UH, SOME OF THEM, ONE WAS, WHAT WAS IT? THREE POINTS, LISA? UH, A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FIRST AND THE SECOND PLACE ONE.

AND, UH, THE BIG DEAL WAS THE WARRANTY AND THE TRAINING VERSION OF THAT, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US.

WONDERFUL.

SO, UM, OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, SHERIFF.

UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING ABOUT THIS IS SOME OF THESE WERE GROSS PRICES AND SOME WERE PER UNIT.

HOW MANY UNITS ARE YOU BUYING? 15, I BELIEVE IT WAS.

YES, SIR.

15.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO THIS AT, BASED ON THAT, THIS SHAKES OUT TO, IN MY NUMBERS, ABOUT 10,000 $194 A UNIT.

THAT'S SIR.

CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

THANKS.

IT'S, AND THIS, THIS IS BEING PROVIDED FROM THE, WHICH, WHICH PROGRAM? SEIZURE FUNDS.

FEDERAL SEIZURE FUNDS.

YES.

YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB ON IT, .

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE A, WE APPROVE THE SELECTION OF I IDENT MARKETING SERVICES, UM, FOR THE FIRM FOR PROVIDING NIGHT VISION GOGGLES AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BID THEY SUBMITTED TO AND WAS APPROVED BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTI.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCELROY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

DO WE NEED TO EX, UM, INCLUDE THIS, THAT IT'S BEING PROVIDED THROUGH THE SEIZURE FUNDS? JUST IN THE MOTION? I DON'T KNOW.

I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO IT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, CAN I JUST AMEND IT TO SAY YEP, WE HAVEN'T TAKEN ACTION.

YOU CAN AMEND IT.

THAT THOSE, I'LL AMEND THAT MOTION TO SAY THAT THE FUNDS WILL BE PROVIDED THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S SEIZURE FUND.

AND I'LL, WE GOT AN AMENDED MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY AND I'LL SECOND BY THE AMENDED MOTION.

AND WE, WE GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MACK LICK.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF DEPUTY, THAT BRINGS US

[12. Discuss/ Act on approving the Request for Proposal for Transportation Related Consulting Services and authorize the Auditor to advertise by public notice, and all related issues; (Judge New -Auditor)]

TO AGENDA ITEM 12, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR TRANSPORTATION RELATED CONSULTING SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE THE AUDITOR TO ADVERTISE BY PUBLIC NOTICE IN ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER, THIS IS, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONERS.

UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT, GOSH, TWO MONTHS AGO MAYBE.

UH, AND, AND BEFORE WE PUT THIS OUT, FORBID THE COURT WANTED COMMISSIONER M**K AND MYSELF TO TAKE IT TO THE ROAD CONSORTIUM.

WE HAD MATTHEW HIT SEND A SURVEY TO THE CONSORTIUM.

WE HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY JUST ASKING WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM SO WE CAN USE, UH, THEIR WISHES, WHAT THEY DEEM IMPORTANT WHEN WE GRADE THE APPLICANTS WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE.

THE AUDITOR HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB AND FOUND, UH, A COUPLE DIFFERENT RFPS OUT THERE.

THIS ONE MOST CLOSELY MATCHES DENTON COUNTY'S RFP, UH, WHICH I, I KNOW WHERE WE LIKE TO BE AHEAD AND LIKE TO BE FIRST, BUT WE DID TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

SO, UH, IT, IT WILL BE OUR, OUR CONTRACT.

YOU'VE, UH, ALL HAD OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT.

DO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY EDITS WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE OR WE OKAY WITH IT AS WRITTEN? LET'S START WITH NUMERICAL COMMISSIONER NUMBER ONE.

NO, I, I'M GOOD AS IT'S WRITTEN.

OH, OKAY.

I DON'T, I DON'T NEED TO.

I, I I MISREAD THE, THE, THE SCOWL .

NO, I'M JUST, UH, I'M READY TO GET THIS OUT THERE.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

GOT IT.

UH, COMMISSIONER LTI.

UM, YEAH, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S TWO PLACES IT REFERS TO ONCE AS A SELECTION COMMITTEE AND ONCE AS AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE.

UM, I THINK WE SHOULD CORRECT THOSE, UM, TO MAKE IT, I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE SAME COMMITTEE.

IT, YES.

OKAY.

AND WHO IS THAT COMMITTEE? BECAUSE I WANT TO GO BACK TO OUR, UH, WE HAD, UH, RESOLUTIONS APPROVED ON THIS JANUARY 14TH, I THINK.

AND IT WAS, AS I RECALL, AND I THOUGHT I BROUGHT IT WITH ME, BUT I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T.

UM, AS I RECALL WHAT THOSE MINUTES SAID

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WAS THAT THE CONSORTIUM WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE RE PREPARATION OF THIS RFP, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WERE, AND THAT THEY WOULD REVIEW THE, UM, THE BIDS AND THAT THEY WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THE DECISION ULTIMATELY, ULTIMATELY BEING OURS, BUT THAT THEY WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

SO, AND I MAY BE GETTING THE CART A HO OF THE, THE CART AHEAD OF THE HORSE HERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT EVALUATION OR SELECTION COMMITTEE, WHATEVER IT SOUNDS NAMED, HAS MEMBERS OR IS SELECT CHOSEN BY THE ROAD CONSORTIUM? IS THAT THE INTENT? UM, MY THOUGHTS WOULD BE, UH, SINCE I'M A FAN OF SURVEYS NOW, WE GOT, UH, SOMEBODY ON BOARD THAT CAN DO SURVEYS IS TO GO BACK TO THE CONSORTIUM, UH, AND, AND, UH, USE OUR GRADING SCALES THAT'S IN HERE AND LET THEM GRADE THE APPLICANTS NOW.

BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT, ULTIMATELY THE CHOICE IS OURS.

BUT YES, I, I WANT THEM INVOLVED ON THE FRONT, ESSENTIALLY.

THEY'RE THE FIRST HURDLE.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

AND THEN IT COMES TO THE COURT, RIGHT.

BECAUSE THERE'S SOMEBODY THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK WITH AS 100% AS MUCH AS WE ARE, AS MUCH AS WE ARE, AS I, AS MUCH AS, UH, SURVEYS MAY BE GOOD.

I THINK THAT THIS MAY BE MORE THAN A JUST A SURVEY RESPONSE, IN MY OPINION.

SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CONSORTIUM.

YEP.

I, OR WHOEVER THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE THEY CHOOSE IS.

I, I, I AGREE.

UM, I, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE, I'M, I'M THINK I'M HEARING YOU COMMISSIONER LATI THAT MAYBE, UM, DEFINITELY THE CONSORTIUM CAN HAVE, CAN, CAN, CAN, CAN EVALUATE THIS AND BE A PART OF IT, BUT I THINK MAYBE THEY, WE MAY WANNA SEE IF THERE'S, UM, JUDGE, MAYBE LIKE THEY APPOINT THREE OR FOUR, UM, SMALLER INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE, A SMALLER COMMITTEE FROM THE CONSORTIUM, EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN ALL SEE IT AND THEY CAN GRADE IT, BUT THEN THERE'S REALLY THREE OR FOUR THAT WOULD PARTICIPATE WITH, WITH THE COURT, UM, THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

UM, RIGHT.

AND IF, AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.

IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT ON PAGE THREE, IT SAYS WHEN THAT WE WILL APPOINT AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE AT SOME POINT IN THIS PROCESS, RIGHT? SO, UM, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO DO IT NOW.

IS IS THAT HOW THAT READS, LISA? YEAH, AND I AGREE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER STACY.

AS I SAID, I MAY BE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD HERE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S THE COURSE WE'RE TAKING.

UM, THE OTHER, UH, QUESTION I HAD AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON THERE? I'M NOW ON PAGE FIVE.

UM, GOT A FEW QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS HERE.

UM, THERE'S A, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS PROBABLY TOO TECHNICAL, I APOLOGIZE IF IF IT IS, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY TOP PARAGRAPH, IT SAYS, IT SAYS IT'LL BE BOARD OF THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS AND THEN IT SAYS, SELECTED CONSULTANTS, SUB CONSULTANTS WILL BE INELIGIBLE FOR CONSIDERATION IN ANY DESIGN ROLE WITHIN THE ROCKWELL COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, UM, ON PROJECTS PROCURED OR ADMINISTERED DIRECTLY BY THE COUNTY, WHICH I THOUGHT MADE PERFECT SENSE UNTIL I GOT BACK TO PAGE EIGHT.

AND THEN PAGE EIGHT AT THE BOTTOM.

TASK THREE IS DESIGN MANAGEMENT.

AND I THINK WHAT THIS IS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT WHAT THEY WILL DO IS THEY WILL WORK WITH US TO, UM, WITH DESIGN CONTRACTORS, I THINK IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY, BUT MY FIRST REACTION WAS IT SEEMED INCONSISTENT.

AND IF YOU AGREE, I'VE GOT A QUICK SOLUTION FOR THAT.

WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR QUICK SOLUTION? I I, I DO SEE, I, YEAH, AGAIN, LIKE WE, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, TAKING THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS IN MY MIND, I KNOW HOW IT WORKS, RIGHT? RIGHT.

BUT, AND, AND THAT'S HOW IT, AND I KIND OF COULD ALMOST READ YOUR MIND ON THIS ONE, WHICH IS REALLY SCARY.

UM, , I THINK THE WORD DESIGN MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR ALL PROJECTS.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE ON NINE AND YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THOSE, UM, SIX BULLETS MM-HMM .

THEY, THEY KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT THAT WORD DESIGN MANAGEMENT MAY INVOLVE, INCLUDE AND WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD BE.

THAT'S, IF Y'ALL THINK THIS IS CLEAR, I'M OKAY NOT MAKING A COMMENT, BUT IT JUST SEEMED A LITTLE INCONSISTENT TO ME.

OKAY.

WHAT IS YOUR COMMENT? MY COMMENT WOULD BE AT THE END OF THAT PARAGRAPH, AT THE TOP, PAGE THREE, WE JUST SAY, UH, PUT A COMMA THERE AND SAY, EXCEPT FOR SUPERVISORY AND OVERSIGHT ROLES AS CONTEMPLATED BY

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TASK THREE SPECIFIED BELOW, I CAN ADD THAT.

UH, I MEAN, THAT, THAT SEEMS TO BE A SIMPLE CLARIFICATION, I THINK.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT.

UH, THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD ON THIS PAGE, WE SAY CONTRACT AWARD IS JUNE 24TH.

I UNDERSTAND THAT'S ALL KIND OF FLOWING, BUT I WONDERED IF THIS SHOULDN'T COINCIDE WITH THE EXPIRATION OF OUR ITS CONTRACT, WHICH I THINK IS SEPTEMBER.

SEPTEMBER, CERTAINLY SHOULD SEPTEMBER OR 30 DAYS WITH WRITTEN NOTICE.

SO IS IT, SO YEAH.

OKAY.

SO JUST, WELL, WE CAN DO THAT IF WE WANNA DO IT 30 DAYS, BUT I WAS THINKING SEPTEMBER 30TH, JUST 'CAUSE THAT'S THE DATE IT TERMINATE.

I, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IT IN DIFFERENT FASHION, I AGAIN, DON'T REALLY CARE.

WE'RE SELECTING A CONTRACTOR AND POTENTIALLY A CHANGING A CONTRACTOR.

'CAUSE I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE OVERLAPPING CONTRACTS.

RIGHT.

I I UNDERSTAND.

YEAH, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

BUT THE CONTRACT AWARD DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THE CONTRACT STARTS.

RIGHT.

CAN WE CONTRACT AWARD ON THIS DATE? SURE.

AND SAY THE CONTRACT IS SLATED TO START YEAH.

SO THAT WE'RE NOT DELAYING THIS CONTRACT AWARD FOR SO LONG.

IT, IT SAYS THAT ON PAGE FIVE.

YEAH.

SECOND PARAGRAPH.

THE TERM OF THE RESULTING CONTRACT WILL BE OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

SO IT DOES STIPULATE WHEN IT, WHEN IT BEGINS.

OKAY, GREAT.

THEN I APOLOGIZE, MISSED THAT.

UM, AND THEN, SORRY, I NOTICED A TYPO ON THE DATE, SO I WAS GONNA MAKE SURE I GOT THAT IN BEFORE, UH, ON THE DATE DUE ON THE FIRST PAGE AND ON THE FIFTH PAGE, THEY'RE CONFLICTING DATES.

I THINK ONE'S THE TYPO.

I THINK PAGE ONE IS A TYPO.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE JUNE FIR FOURTH.

FOURTH.

WHAT ELSE, COMMISSIONER? OKAY.

UM, THE, THE OTHER THING I HAD ON THIS PAGE IS I DIDN'T SEE IT.

THIS TASK ONE, AND BY THE WAY, WHOEVER DID THIS, IT WAS A FABULOUS JOB.

THIS IS VERY WELL WRITTEN, VERY DETAILED.

SO KUDOS TO YOU ALL.

YEAH, WELL YOU GUYS HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT.

YOU DIDN'T JUST YEAH.

CHANGE THE NAMES.

UM, SO, BUT IT DOESN'T MENTION ANYWHERE HERE IN THIS TASK ONE ABOUT OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE SHOULDN'T ADD THAT THEY WILL ASSIST US IN REVIEW AND PROPOSING REVISIONS TO THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A CERTAINLY A GOOD IDEA.

WE'RE GONNA DO I KIND OF DISAGREE, I'M SORRY.

BUT WHY IS THAT? UM, BE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT EFFORT.

A DIFFERENT PLANNING EFFORT.

AND, UM, WHILE I DO THINK THAT I, I SHOULD SAY I, I DISAGREE JUST ON THE SURFACE, NOT NECESSARILY IN THE CONTRACT, IS THAT DOING THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WE DEFINITELY WOULD WANT OUR TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANT TO BE INVOLVED, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THEM TO BE THE FIRM THAT DOES IT.

THAT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE PROCESS.

SO I'M SORRY IF I, IF I JUMPED, I JUST, WHEN THAT CAME UP, I SAID THAT IS A YEAH.

A WHOLE SEPARATE MANAGEMENT PLANNING PROCESS.

I JUST SEE IT THAT THEY WOULD BE A PARTICIPANT IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ENGINEER.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR COUNTY ENGINEER ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S GONNA BE INVOLVED WITH IT AS WELL.

WELL, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A COUNTY ENGINEER HAVE THAT ITEM LATER ON.

THAT'S TRUE.

NO, ABSOLUTELY.

I WOULD ENVISION IT BEING A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR.

BUT IF WE'RE GETTING SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE REALLY WORKING WITH CAREFULLY, YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DETAIL IN HERE THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, ALL OF WHICH WAS GREAT, I THOUGHT, MAN, AT SOME POINT THEY SHOULD BE ADVISING US AND HELPING US WORK TOWARD, UH, OUR SOLUTIONS WITH MASTER THOROUGH FOOD PLAN.

SO I I WOULD, I WOULD MENTION THAT SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

AND WE ALSO, I BELIEVE, HAVE FREEZE AND NICHOLS ALSO.

DON'T WE HAVE A, HAVE HELPING US WITH THAT AS WELL HAVE IN THE PAST? PERHAPS? UM, NO, NO.

IN THE PAST WE USED, UM, OH, THEIR NAME ESCAPES ME.

NOT FRIES, NICHOLS DOES THAT ALL, ALL OVER THE STATE.

OKAY.

BUT WE, WE'VE NOT, WE'VE NOT USED THEM.

CAN CAN I, CAN I, ON PAGE FIVE, FREEMAN MILLIKEN, OH, THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

SORRY.

THE, THE NAME OKAY.

HAD TO SPIT IT OUT WHILE, WHEN IT, WHEN IT APPEARED I HAD TO, OKAY.

SO ON PAGE FIVE, UNDER TASK ONE A, YOU GO DOWN, IT SAYS DEVELOP OVERALL PROGRAM AND STRATEGIC LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.

YOU COULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT, INCLUDING ADVICE OR PLANNING ON THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

THAT WOULD BE A VERY NATURAL SPOT.

THAT'D BE FINE TO ADD A MENTION OF THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN RIGHT THERE ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

OKAY.

SAY, SAY IT AGAIN.

DEVELOP OVERALL PROGRAM AND STRATEGIC LONG RATE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, INCLUDING WORKING WITH US ON A MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN OR SOME LANGUAGE VERY CLOSE THEREOF.

SO THEN THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN WOULD BE ADDED INTO THEIR SCOPE.

DO DO YOU HAVE THAT, LISA? YEAH.

GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD SUGGESTION.

UM, GREAT, THANKS.

UM, AND

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THE ONLY OTHER THING OTHER THAN A KNIT THAT I'M TOO EMBARRASSED TO RAISE, UM, I I, I, IS IT APOSTROPHE AND NO.

OKAY.

IT'S NOT, NOT THAT BAD.

I, ALL RIGHT.

I'VE, I'M TRYING TO CURE MYSELF OF ALL THIS.

I'M STILL IN REHAB FOR MY, FOR YOUR ATTORNEY.

MY BEING AN ATTORNEY.

YEAH.

UM, UH, OH, ACTUALLY TWO COMMENTS.

I'M SORRY.

I SAID ONE, BUT I HAVE TWO.

UM, TASK FOUR.

WHAT PAGE ARE UH, PAGE NINE.

OKAY.

THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.

THIS SOUNDED MORE LIKE THEY WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO OUT AND DO IT, WHICH I WOULD BE SURPRISED UNLESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COUNTY ROADS.

I WONDERED WHAT THE INTENTION WAS HERE.

UM, IT SAYS A CONSULTANT SHALL PROVIDE MANAGEMENT ASSISTANCE NECESSARY FOR COMPLETION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL ESTATE REQUIRED FOR RIGHT AWAY TO COMPLETE PROJECTS WITHIN THE PROGRAM.

JUST ONE, JUST REALLY A QUESTION.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE INTENTION IS HERE? I THINK THAT THEY DO THAT.

I THINK THEY HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.

UM, THEY, THEY, THEY'VE HIRED FIRMS TO DO THAT.

YES.

YEAH.

BUT THEY MANAGE IT.

BUT THEY MANAGE IT.

YES, THEY DO.

YEAH.

YES.

OH, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT.

GREAT.

OKAY.

AND THEN MY LAST, I PROMISE, COMMENT IS ON PAGE 12.

UM, THE TECHNICAL QUALIFICATIONS, UH, ITEM TWO, UNLESS YOU GOT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT TALKS ABOUT VERIFIABLE EXPERIENCES, SIMILAR PROJECTS AND COMPLEXITY, DA DA DA.

DO WE, AND IS THERE ANYWHERE WE ASK FOR A LIST OF REFERENCE PERSONS? WE CAN GET, THIS SEEMED LIKE AN OBVIOUS PLACE TO DO IT, UH, BUT WILL THEY PROVIDE LISTS OF PROJECTS, GIVE US NAMES AND CONTACT INFORMATION ON PEOPLE, REFERENCE PERSONS WE CAN REACH OUT AND CALL? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

I DO A BRIEF, I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE IT IS BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT IN HERE.

BUT IF WE DON'T, I'LL, I'LL ADD IF YOU DON'T ADD IT, REFERENCE IF YOU DON'T ADD IT.

AND THOSE ARE MY LITTLE MINIMAL COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

UH, IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON MAKING YOUR EVALUATION COMMITTEE LARGER THAN JUST THE FIVE OF YOU, UH, I'M ONLY ASKING FOR FIVE HARD COPIES.

SO, AND ONE ORIGINAL, WHICH THE AUDITOR KEEPS FOR, FOR POSTERITY, FOR YOUR , FOR, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS FOR THINGS.

DO YOU WANT, WILL THE PEOPLE, THE OTHER PEOPLE BE HAPPY WITH DIGITAL COPIES OR DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE MORE COPIES? LET, LET, LET'S BUMP THAT UP TO 10.

OKAY.

AND, AND LISA, DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT OF ALL THE EDITS? YES.

AND, UH, IT DOESN'T GO OUT UNTIL MAY 2ND.

SO, UH, THE NEWSPAPER OR AD WILL GO NEXT WEEK, SO WE HAVE SOME TIME.

SO IF YOU, IF IT'S WITH YOU ALL, I WILL MAKE MY EDITS AND THEN SEND IT TO COMMISSIONER LTI TO DO A ONCE OVER FOR ME.

IT'D BE GOOD.

IT'D BE GOOD.

AND THEN, UH, THEN MAKE SURE THAT I'VE COVERED ALL OF WHAT YOU'VE, I'VE ALREADY SAID.

IT WOULD BE GOOD.

.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR VOLUNTEERING.

COMMISSIONER .

BOY, THAT WAS QUITE A LOOK THERE.

FRANK .

NO, I APOLOGIZE.

IS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I, I WANNA MAKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL GOOD, GOOD, GOOD EDITS.

AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE, I WAS GONNA SAY I'M HAPPY TO HELP .

WE APPRECIATE.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE IT IF THAT'S OKAY.

UM, I AM GOING, I, UM, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, WE APPROVE WITH THE, THE EDITS THAT WE, UM, GA WE COMPLETED TODAY FOR THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR TRANSPORTATION RELATED CONSULTING, UM, SERVICES.

ALL RIGHT.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WELL, I DIDN'T ADD, I'M SORRY THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD AUTHORIZE THE AUDITOR TO ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC NOTICE.

SORRY.

OKAY.

WE'VE GOT AN AMENDED MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW.

IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

OKAY, THAT BRINGS US

[13. Discuss/Act on approving Amendment No. 2 to the Department of State Health Services' Cities Readiness Initiative (CRI) grant program, and all related issues; (Judge New - Auditor)]

TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING AMENDMENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES, CITY READINESS INITIATIVE, GRANT PROGRAM, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

GOT MR. ROSSON, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.

THANK YOU.

DO I NEED TO, I GUESS I DON'T NEED TO TURN THE MIC ON ANYMORE.

NOPE.

WE, WE GOT IT.

AT LEAST TODAY.

WE'RE ALL GOOD.

[01:40:01]

UH, LISA, DO YOU JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK BRIEF OF WHAT THE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO IS? MATTHEW TOLD ME THAT THIS WAS OUR ADOPTION OF THIS GRANT.

I BELIEVE IT'S JUST EXTENDING THE CONTRACT IS, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS.

I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK BEFORE I YEAH.

LAUNCHED INTO INCORRECT INFORMATION.

UH, YES.

SO THE CRI GRANT IS A GRANT THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR PROBABLY 10 TO 15 YEARS NOW.

UH, THE FUNDING THIS YEAR HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM 70,000 DOWN TO 40,000.

AND THIS IS WHAT MY OFFICE USES MOSTLY FOR OUR SUPPLIES.

AND, UH, WE USE IT FOR NICKEL, OUR STARLINK, OUR DUTY PHONE ASSOCIATION FEES, AND SOME OF OUR CONFERENCES, UH, FOR OUR BUDGET YEAR.

AND ESSENTIALLY THIS REQUIRES A 10% MATCH BY US.

SO IT'S 90.

SO THIS FUNDED BY THE STATE, SO, SO 4,000, IS IT? MM-HMM .

YEAH.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR JARED? ALL RIGHT.

SO I AM GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES CITY READINESS INITIATIVE, CRI GRANT PROGRAM AS PRESENTED.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

GOT MY MOTION.

WE GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THANK YOU, JARED.

THANK Y'ALL.

BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 14.

YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GONNA HOLD OFF ON AGENDA ITEM 14 UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE'RE GONNA GO TO AGENDA ITEM 15, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING ENGAGEMENT LETTER WITH TERRELL AND WALDROP FOR LEGAL CONSULTING SERVICES RELATED TO WATER RIGHTS AND RELATED MATTERS AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

SHOULD THAT BE EXECUTIVE SESSION AS WELL? YES.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE 14 AND 15 IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO THAT BRINGS

[16. CONSENT AGENDA]

US TO 16 CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ML.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, JUST ONE SECOND.

UM, JUST SINCE IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT MEETINGS WE'RE APPROVING, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE'RE APPROVING THE MEETINGS FROM COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UM, ON FEBRUARY 25TH, 2025 AND MARCH 19TH, 2025.

OKAY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT REQUIRES AN AMENDED MOTION.

WE'RE JUST JUST MAKING A NOTE.

ADDING, ADDING TO IT.

OKAY.

MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WE HAVE THAT PUT IN, SO, RIGHT.

WELL, AND THE REASON I DID IS BECAUSE WE GOT OTHER MINUTES, UH, FRIDAY, AND THOSE ARE NOT BEING APPROVED FROM A DIFFERENT MEETING.

GOT IT.

JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THAT BRINGS US TO

[17. PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS/DISPOSITIONS]

PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS AND DISPOSITIONS.

WELL, MY MICROPHONE'S STILL ON, SO I'M GONNA APPROVE PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS AND DISPOSITIONS.

A, B, C, D, E, F, G, AND H.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

ALANA, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THERE ARE NO NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS.

SO THAT BRINGS US

[19. APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL(S)]

TO APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL.

THANK YOU.

I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT PAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $121,103 AND 40 CENTS, AND I ASKED FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUANO.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE.

THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT UNPAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,781,504 AND 76 CENTS, AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUANO.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

AND I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT THE PAYROLL REPORT FOR THE PAY PERIOD ENDING APRIL THE 12TH, 2025 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,087,442 AND 60 CENTS.

AND I ASKED FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUANO.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA

[20. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

ITEM 20 EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ROCKWALL COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS LISTED IN THIS AGENDA.

ITEM IN THE ORDER DEEMED APPROPRIATE AS AUTHORIZED BY CHAPTER 5 5 1 OPEN MEETING, SUB CHAPTER D TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE,

[01:45:01]

OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF THE ATTORNEY.

WE WILL BE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON REAL ESTATE MATTERS AND TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF OUR ATTORNEY.

AND AT 10 58, WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

[21. RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION]

IT'S 1245.

WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE AND OPEN SESSION PURSUANT TO OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 5 5 1 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.001.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION TO TAKE ANY ACTION NECESSARY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND I WILL TELL YOU NO ACTION TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE WILL GO TO

[14. Discuss/ Act on calling Special Session meeting to hear appeal from DR Horton on River Rock Trails infrastructure cost apportionment, and all related issues; (Judge New}]

AGENDA ITEM 14.

UH, THERE'LL BE NO ACTION TAKEN IN THERE.

WE DO ALREADY HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION.

AND FRANK, WE, WE DO HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION ON 20 B 20.

I'M, I'M GETTING OKAY.

GET GETTING TO THAT ONE.

THANK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S, LET'S, LET ME TAKE YOUR LEAD AND LET'S GET THAT ONE OUTTA

[20.b) Real Estate Matters: Discuss the appointment of the County Engineer position.]

THE WAY.

SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION CONCERNING THE NEW COUNTY ENGINEER THAT WE, UH, HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ERICA BRIDGES, UH, TO COMMENCE MAY 12TH, 2025 WITH AN ANNUAL SALARY OF $153,600, ALLOWING TWO WEEKS OF VACATION MADE AVAILABLE FOR USE AS THE DATE OF HIRED.

AND THAT SHE WILL HAVE A COUNTY ISSUED CELL PHONE AND THAT THE COUNTY WILL PROVIDE FOR A BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,000.

I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU MY MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACEY, IF YOU WILL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

THAT'S MUCH CLEANER.

NOW

[15. Discuss/Act on approving Engagement Letter with Terrill & Waldrop for legal consulting services related to water rights and related matters, and all related issues; (Daniel Ray, General Counsel)]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING ENGAGEMENT LETTER WITH TERRELL AND WALDROP FOR LEGAL CONSULTING SERVICES RELATED TO THE WATER RIGHTS AND RELATED MATTERS AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

AND I AM GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, APPROVE THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER WITH TERRELL AND WALDROP FOR LEGAL CONSULTING SERVICES RELATED TO WATER RIGHTS AND RELATED MATTERS.

I'LL SECOND THAT A MOTION.

WE HAVE MY MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

BEAR WITH ME IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES.

NOW IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

JUDGE, DO YOU HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT ON THAT? UH, ITEM NUMBER 15 OR IS IT OPEN-ENDED ITEM ITEM 15? WE, WE HAVE A, UH, BILLING LETTER FROM THEM.

SO THERE, THERE'S NOT A, NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT.

OKAY.

BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, THE AMOUNT THEY ARE GONNA BILL US.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM

[22. COMMISSIONERS COURT REPORTS]

22.

COMMISSIONER REPORTS.

LET'S START AND GO REVERSE NUMERICAL ORDER.

COMMISSIONER STACY.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SEND, UM, I MEAN, THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO DENTON COUNTY.

UM, THE COMMISSIONER, BOBBY MITCHELL AND HER HUSBAND WERE STABBED.

UM, HER HUSBAND, UH, ENDED UP PASSING AWAY EARLY MONDAY MORNING.

UM, AND THAT'S JUST A, A TERRIBLE THING TO HAVE HAPPENED.

UM, THE SUSPECT HAS BEEN, UM, AT LEAST ARRESTED AND THERE'S BEEN SOME PUBLIC, UH, STATEMENTS MADE UP ON THAT.

BUT IT'S JUST A, A TERRIBLE THING AND IT'S JUST VERY SAD FOR IT TO HAPPEN ON EASTER.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WITH THAT, JUST BE DILIGENT THROUGH THE, THE SESSION THAT WE'RE UNDER.

UM, LOTS OF HEARINGS, LOTS OF THINGS GOING ON.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL I GOT.

JUDGE COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

UM, I WILL KEEP IT SIMPLE.

I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, YOU JUDGE N AND YOU COMMISSIONER STACY AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO CAME OUT TO OUR PRECINCT THREE TOWN HALL, UH, ON SATURDAY.

IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS.

WE HAD ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE THERE.

UH, THANKS TO REPRESENTATIVE PEARSON WHO ATTENDED.

UM, WE HAD GREAT INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AND A GREAT DISCUSSION.

AND I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME UP, CAME TO THE MEETING.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER M**K.

UM, JUST WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT EARLY VOTING STARTED TODAY.

YES, MA'AM.

AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF CONTESTED RACES IN OUR COUNTY, SO PLEASE, YES, MA'AM.

UM, GO VOTE AND GO STARS.

MY GOODNESS.

COMMISSIONER GOLAN, I WANNA ECHO COMMISSIONER MICK'S, UH, THOUGHTS ABOUT THE ELECTION, PLEASE GO VOTE.

THESE ARE SOME OF OUR LOWEST TURNOUT ELECTIONS, AND WE HAVE CONTESTED RACES UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT DECISIONS REALLY IMPACT YOU.

OF COURSE, UNLESS THE LEGISLATURE TAKES ALL THAT POWER AWAY, AND THEN MAYBE IT DOESN'T.

THE OTHER THING I WANNA REMIND YOU IS PLEASE REACH

[01:50:01]

OUT TO YOUR SENATOR, SENATOR HALL AND REPRESENTATIVE PEARSON FOR THE BILLS WE MENTIONED EARLIER.

UM, THE ACT NOW, UH, HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD OR WE RISK LOSING, UM, CONTROL HERE LOCALLY, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT ANY OF US WANT.

I AGREE.

SO MY ONLY, UH, COMMISSIONER REPORT UPDATE, I WANNA SAY, UH, UH, PREVIOUS SENATOR DON HUFFINES WAS JUDGED FOR THE DAY, UH, AND JUST HAD A, A, A LOVELY DAY.

AND, AND, AND I TRULY MEAN THAT.

I ENJOYED, YOU KNOW, I WON'T, I WON'T TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF, OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT I REALLY ENJOYED HAVING HIM.

AND JUST THE OVERARCHING CONVERSATION.

WE TALKED ABOUT GOD, RELIGION, POLITICS, LEGAL MATTERS, GROWTH IN THE COUNTY, GROWTH IN THE STATE, UH, THE, THE, THE POLITICS OF NORTH TEXAS VERSUS THE POLITICS OF HOUSTON.

AND IT WAS, UH, UH, A DAY THAT I REALLY ENJOYED.

AND, AND I'M THANKFUL FOR HIM COMING HERE.

AND, AND I REALLY APPRECIATED, UH, HIM BEING THE ROCKWELL COUNTY JUDGE FOR THE DAY.

SO WITH THAT, AT 1251, WE'RE ADJOURNED.