May 13, 2025 Commissioners Court Regular Meeting

IT IS MAY 13TH, 2025, AND I'M GONNA CALL OUR REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

IT IS 9:00 AM AND WE ARE AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

[A) INVOCATION]

I'M GONNA ASK COMMISSIONER ALANA TO LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION, AND THEN COMMISSIONER STACEY DE LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGES.

FEEL STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE.

LORD, THANK YOU, UH, FOR THIS WONDERFUL DAY, THIS WONDERFUL COUNTY.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER TOGETHER, UH, TO DISCUSS IDEAS, UH, BE WITH US ALL TODAY.

UH, AS WE MAKE, UH, DECISIONS ON THIS COURT THAT IMPACT OUR COUNTY.

HELP US TO BE OPEN-MINDED, UM, TO BE OPEN TO IDEAS.

UH, PLEASE PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN HERE AND ABROAD, AND BE WITH OUR LEADERS, UH, BOTH LOCALLY AT THE STATE LEVEL AND FEDERALLY, UH, AS WE TURN THIS COUNTRY.

UH, BACK TO YOU.

IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

ALL RIGHT, FIRST TO THE AMERICAN, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION, GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, HONOR.

AND NOW TEXAS HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDERGONE ONE INDIVIDUAL, GOD, TEXAS.

[D) RECOGNITION OF GUESTS]

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM D, RECOGNITION OF GUESTS.

COMMISSIONER ALANA, THANK YOU.

HAVE GUESTS AND SOME RECOGNITION HERE.

I DO.

SO MAY, UM, IS JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

SO I HAVE A PROCLAMATION I WOULD LIKE TO READ.

UM, WHEREAS JEWISH HISTORY IS TIGHTLY WOVEN INTO OUR TAPESTRY WITH JEWISH AMERICANS HAVING ACHIEVED BOUNDLESS SUCCESS IN PUBLIC SERVICE, ACADEMIA, BUSINESS, AND THE FINE ARTS.

AND WHEREAS FOR COUNTLESS YEARS, ARTISTS AND INTELLECTUALS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS HAVE ALLUDED TO JUDAISM, INCLUDING HISTORICALLY BASED REFLECTIONS ON THE PROMISED LAND, THE PARTING OF THE RED SEA, 40 YEARS WANDERING IN THE WILDERNESS AND MONO RAINING DOWN FROM HEAVEN.

AND WHEREAS JEWISH AMERICANS EMBODY A SET OF VALUES THAT HAS INFLUENCED AMERICAN THOUGHT AT THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL, HELPING SHAPE THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR NATION FROM THE EARLIEST DAYS.

AND WHEREAS JEWS WORLDWIDE HAVE LONG EXPERIENCED ANTISEMITISM, AND NOW MORE THAN EVER, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH COMMUNITY TO FIGHT AGAINST TATE RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY AND TERRORISM.

AND WHEREAS AMERICANS MUST NOT ALLOW ANY SORT OF HOSTILITY OR PREJUDICE TO DISRUPT THE PRINCIPLES UPON WHICH OUR GREAT NATION WAS FOUNDED, FREEDOM, TOLERANCE, AND RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE UNDERSIGNED ELECTED OFFICIALS DEEMED THE MONTH OF MAY, JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH AND ROCKWALL COUNTY, TEXAS.

WE ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT ROLE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE PLAYED IN OUR NATION, TO APPRECIATE THEIR RICH HISTORY, TO SUPPORT ISRAEL AND ITS PEOPLE, AND TO REINFORCE THE VALUES THAT TRANSCEND ALL CULTURAL AND ETHNIC BOUNDARIES.

AMEN.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOANA.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, COMMISSIONER M**K, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A, A RECOGNITION.

I DO, I DO, JUDGE.

THIS MONTH IS WE HAVE, UM, THE COURT HAS HAS A PROCLAMATION FOR THE OLDER AMERICANS MONTH FOR THIS MONTH.

AND I'D LIKE FOR THE MEALS ON WHEEL, THIS STAFF AND ALL THE VOLUNTEERS, IF YOU GUYS WOULD JUST STAND SO WE COULD RECOGNIZE YOU.

AND THEN I HAVE A FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO SAY.

ALL RIGHT, SHERIFF, YOU WANNA COME UP AND HAVE SOME WORDS TO SAY ABOUT, I'M GONNA GO GET THAT POLICE WEEK.

MEALS ON WHEEL, MEALS ON WHEELS OFFERS A SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS FOR OLDER, OLDER ADULTS, ESPECIALLY DURING THE OLDER AMERICAN, UH, AMERICANS MONTH THIS MONTH BY YOUR ADDRESSING HUNGER, IMPROVING THEIR HEALTH, AND REDUCING SOCIAL ISOLATION.

THE BENEFITS INCLUDE YOUR, THEIR IMPROVED DIET, THEIR QUALITY, THEIR REDUCED HEALTHCARE COST, AND THEIR INCREASED INDEPENDENCE.

OLDER AMERICANS MONTH PROVIDES A CRUCIAL OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THESE BENEFITS AND ENCOURAGE THE SUPPORT FOR LOCAL MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAMS. AND I WANT TO APPLAUD EACH OF YOU IN THIS ROOM.

UM, I HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH MEALS ON WHEELS.

MY MOTHER, UM, DID HELP SERVE MEALS ON WHEELS MANY YEARS AGO, AND THEN SHE WAS A RECIPIENT HERSELF OF MEALS ON WHEELS.

SO MY HEART, I HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION AND FOR EACH OF YOU WHO SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

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WOULD YOU GIVE IT TO ME? GOOD MORNING.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, PROCLAMATION, UH, FOR YOUR HONORING POLICE WEEK.

UH, IN 1962, UH, PRESIDENT JOHN KENNEDY DESIGNATED THE WEEK OF WITH MAY 15TH IN IT, UH, AS POLICE WEEK AND POLICE MEMORIAL DAY.

THIS YEAR WILL BE ON THURSDAY, MAY 15TH.

UH, CHIEF ALDRIDGE WITH ROY CITY, UH, HAS BEEN KIND OF COORDINATING OUR EVENTS FOR THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND OUR EVENT WILL BE, THE CEREMONY WILL BE THURSDAY AT REST HAVEN 9:30 AM AND THIS COMMEMORATES ALL THOSE WHO WE'VE LOST IN THE PAST YEAR, UH, TO POLICE, UH, LINE OF DUTY DEATHS.

AND LAST YEAR THERE WERE OVER 165 WHO WERE LOST, UH, TO LINE OF DUTY DEATHS.

SO FAR THIS YEAR, WE'VE LOST 25.

OVER HALF OF THOSE HAVE BEEN, UH, GUNFIRE INCIDENTS.

SO WE ASK YOU TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO PAUSE AND THINK ABOUT THOSE WHO PROTECT US EACH DAY AND, UH, TO HONOR THEM DURING THIS, UH, DURING THIS WEEK.

THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION.

THANK YOU, SHERIFF.

US TO THE PUBLIC FORUM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

AND THANK YOU TO OUR OFFICERS, CITY, COUNTY, STATE.

THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE WORLD SEEMS TO BE COALESCING INTO BIG URBAN CENTERS THAT DON'T LIKE THEIR OFFICERS AND THE REST OF US THAT LOVE OUR OFFICERS.

SO, UH, JUST KNOW IN ROCKWALL COUNTY, YOU ARE APPRECIATED AND LOVED.

SO THANK YOU.

AND THAT BRINGS

[1. PUBLIC FORUM]

THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNTY ON ANY COUNTY MATTERS.

AND, AND I'M KIND OF SMILING AND LAUGHING BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER RECEIVED THIS MANY REQUESTS TO SPEAK.

SO THIS IS, UH, THIS MAKES ME HAPPY AND WE'RE GONNA ATTEMPT TO GO IN THE ORDER THEY WERE FILLED OUT.

I MAY MISS A FEW HERE.

SO FIRST UP, AND, AND I'M GONNA ASK TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO ABOUT THREE MINUTES IF YOU CAN.

I, I WON'T CUT YOU OFF, BUT JUST BE RESPECTFUL.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, HERE, HERE TO SPEAK.

SO, UH, FIRST UP IS MR. GARY MOODY, IF YOU WILL COME ON UP.

AND THEN ON DECK IS KEN JONES.

I WAS TOLD THERE'S BETS THAT I WOULDN'T STAY WITHIN THREE MINUTES BEING TAKEN UP HERE, .

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO.

I'VE SERVED, I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU HAVE OUR PRAYERS DAILY.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY IT'S A CHURCH AND STATE MATTER.

I BEG TO DIFFER.

IF YOU TURN IN THE GOOD BOOK, THE HISTORY THAT'S WRITTEN IN EXODUS 34 18.

MOSES WENT UP ON MOUNT SINAI FOR 40 DAYS, PROBABLY TOOK HIM THAT LONG TO LISTEN TO GOD AND GET WHAT HE WAS SAYING TO HIM.

AND GOD GAVE HIM TWO STONE TABLETS THAT HAD THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.

HE TOOK THEM DOWN THE MOUNTAIN AND IT WAS PLACED IN THE ARK OF THE COVENANT.

PRETTY IMPORTANT THING, NOT A CHURCH AND STATE MATTER.

IT'S A MORAL MATTER.

IF WE HAD EVERYTHING IN PLACE THAT WAS IN THERE AND WE FOLLOWED THOSE, WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE OR LESS STRESS AND MISERY, DIVORCES, AND CRIME.

POLICE WOULD SAY AMEN TO THAT.

AND THAT'S REALLY, I, I DID IT LESS THAN THREE MINUTES, BROTHER TOLD YOU I WOULD.

OH, UH, THAT'S WHERE I FEEL ABOUT IT.

I'M, I'M PRO, PRO FOR IT.

GOD BLESS YOU.

AND I HAVE TO SAY, IT HAD AN IMPACT ON MY LIFE.

THANK YOU, MR. MOODY.

MR. JONES, KEN JONES.

AND ON DECK IS JOHN WHITE.

GOOD MORNING.

HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING THIS MORNING? DOING WELL, MR. JONES.

GOOD.

I'D LIKE TO START OUT WITH A FUNNY LITTLE STORY I GOT FROM DR. DAVID JEREMIAH SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.

HE SAID, UH, THIS FARM BOY ASKED IF MOM, MOM, WHAT DOES THE COMMANDMENT MEAN? DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.

AND SHE SAID, SON, IT MEANS DON'T PLOW YOUR, UH, YOUR NEIGHBOR'S FIELD .

YOU KNOW, UM, WHEN, UM, I WAS GOING TO, UH, SCHOOL IN A LITTLE RURAL SCHOOL IN NORTH TEXAS WITH MY SISTERS AND DANA'S WONDERFUL MOM, UH, WHEN THE 10 10 COMMANDMENTS CAME UP, THEY LOADED UP THE SCHOOL BUS AND DROVE US OVER TO NEARBY WHITE RIDE TO SEE IT.

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AND, YOU KNOW, KIDS NOW NEED AN IMPACT ON THEIR LIVES BECAUSE, UH, OF THE, OF COURSE, THE MORAL DECAY AND, UH, UH, TODAY, UH, BOTH PARENTS HAVE TO WORK TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

AND THERE'S SO MANY FATHERLESS HOMES, I BELIEVE, UH, A-Y-M-C-A SURVEY, UH, REVEALED THAT AT LEAST HALF OF THE HOMES, UH, IN ROCKWALL, AND IT'S WORSE THAN OTHER PLACES AROUND THE METROPLEX OR FATHERLESS HOMES.

AND, UH, OF COURSE, THE SCHOOLS, UH, ARE AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE IN FEAR OF LOSING FUNDING.

AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE ACTION THAT YOU TAKE TODAY, UH, IF IT PREVENTS, UH, ONE SHOOTING, UH, ONE MURDER, ONE SUICIDE, ONE PERSON LEFT WITHOUT A SPOUSE, A CHILD OR PARENT, ONE PERSON, UH, IS PREVENTED FROM BEING HOMELESS.

ONE PERSON IS PREVENTED FROM GOING TO PRISON, UH, THEN THE ACCIDENT THAT YOU MAY TAKE TODAY IS WELL WORTH IT.

AND IT'S NOT ONLY WORTH IT FOR THIS GENERATION, IT'S WORTH IT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME HERE IN ROCKWALL COUNTY, EVEN FOR PEOPLE YET UNBORN.

IF YOU PUT A PLAQUE HERE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE USING IT AND NEEDING IT AND, UH, ADMIRING IT FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, AND IT'S GONNA BE WELL WORTHWHILE.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL SUPPORT IT TODAY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

GOD BLESS ROCKWALL COUNTY.

GOD BLESS TEXAS.

GOD BLESS AMERICA, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. JONES.

ALL RIGHT, JOHN WHITE AND ON DECK IS JIMMY MCCLINTOCK.

I PRINTED IT OUT SO IT WOULDN'T TAKE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.

I'M NOTORIOUS ABOUT EXTEMPORANEOUS SPEAKING.

MY HISTORY DOESN'T GO BACK TO DEUTERONOMY AND EXODUS, BUT I'M GONNA GO BACK TO 1776.

WHAT DO THE TWO CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTIONS OF 1776 AND 1787 HEAVEN COMMON? BOTH WERE HELD IN LIBERTY HALL IN PHILADELPHIA.

BOTH CONVENTIONS WERE GUIDED BY PRAYER.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT BEGINS WITH PRAYER.

OUR CITY COUNCILS ALSO BEGIN WITH PRAYER.

THE 1787 CONVENTION WAS MARKED BY SQUABBLING AND DISUNITY OF PURPOSE.

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN REMINDED THE DELEGATES TO THE 1787 CONVENTION, HOW THE DELEGATES TO THE 1776 DELEGATION CONVENTION CALLED ON GOD FOR GUIDANCE THROUGH DAILY PRAYERS AND LIBERTY HALL IN THE SAME ROOM THEY OCCUPIED IN 1787.

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN STATED, I HAVE LIVED SIR A LONG TIME.

AND THE LONGER I LIVE, THE MORE CONVINCING PROOFS I SEE OF THIS TRUTH THAT GOD GOVERNS IN THE AFFAIRS OF MEN.

AND IF A SPARROW CANNOT FALL TO THE GROUND WITHOUT HIS NOTICE, IS IT PROBABLE THAT AN EMPIRE CAN ARISE WITHOUT HIS AID? WE HAVE BEEN ASSURED, SIR, IN THE SACRED WRITINGS THAT ACCEPT THE LORD BILLED A LABOR IN VAIN THAT BUILD IT.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE THIS, AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WITHOUT HIS CONCURRING AID, WE SHALL SUCCEED IN THIS POLITICAL BUILDING NO BETTER THAN THE BUILDERS OF BABEL.

WE SHALL BE DIVIDED BY OUR LITTLE PARTIAL LOCAL INTEREST.

OUR PROJECTS WILL BE CONFOUNDED, AND WE OURSELVES SHALL BECOME A REPROACH AND A BY WORD TO FUTURE GENERATIONS.

THE 1787 CONVENTION IMMEDIATELY TURNED TO DAILY PRAYERS AND CHURCH ATTENDANCE.

THE OUTCOME IS OUR PRESENT CONSTITUTION.

IT WAS BIRTHED IN PRAYER MEETINGS.

WE CAN, ONE CAN ASSUME THAT MURDER IS WRONG, SO IT WAS RUNNING RED LIGHTS.

NOT ALL OF US EXERCISE.

SELF-CONTROL REMINDERS OF THE LAW ARE ESSENTIAL TO A HEALTHY SOCIETY.

SOME OF YOU WILL REMEMBER HOW IN THE OBSCENITY CASE BEFORE THE 1964 SUPREME COURT, THERE ARE ENOUGH OF US HERE THAT COULD REMEMBER THIS.

UM, YEAH, THAT WAS JACOB J JACOB ELLIS IN VERSUS OHIO JUSTICE.

UH, THE JUSTICE SUPREME COURT, JUSTICE SUPREMELY MA MARKED HE SAID ABOUT PORNOGRAPHY.

HE SAID, I KNOW IT WHEN I SEE IT.

, YOU KNOW, AND DURING A RECENT CONGRESSIONAL HEARING, A PROSPECTIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SAID SHE CANNOT DEFINE A WOMAN BECAUSE SHE'S NOT A BIOLOGIST.

WE CAN LAUGH AT FUNNY STATEMENTS.

CRIMES AGAINST OUR FELLOW CITIZENS ARE NOT LAUGHING MATTERS.

THE 10 COMMANDMENTS PROMOTE MORAL INTERACTIONS AMONG OUR POPULATION.

FEW OF US HAVE WITNESSED A MURDER.

SHERIFF GARRETT AND HIS DEPUTIES CAN DESCRIBE MURDER SCENES.

I SUPPORT THE INSTALLATION OF THE PROPOSED PRIVATELY FUNDED 10 COMMANDMENTS MONUMENT AS PROPOSED IN ITEM 14 OF TODAY'S AGENDA.

I ASK YOU FOR A UNANIMOUS VOTE FOR THE MONUMENT.

AND ON DECK IS MICHELLE THURGOOD.

THANK YOU, MR. WHITE.

MR. MCCLIN

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GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

UH, MY WIFE ALWAYS TELLS ME I TALK TOO SOFT.

IS CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? I CAN HEAR YOU WELL, LAUREN, GIVE ME THE THUMBS UP IF I'M NOT DOING GOOD.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, ON BEHALF OF HAVA, SHE TOLD ME, MAKE SURE YOU SIGN MY NAME AND TELL EVERYBODY GOOD MORNING.

SO FROM HAVA AND MYSELF, MY DAUGHTER, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US COME TODAY.

THIS IS, UH, I'M SITTING HERE AND AS I WAS CONTEMPLATING THIS FOR THE PAST FEW DAYS, I ASKED MYSELF A QUESTION, WHY HAVE WE NOT DONE THIS BEFORE IN ROCKWALL? I, I, I THINKING ABOUT PUTTING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS HERE.

AND I KNOW IN RECENT YEARS IN OUR, UH, COUNTRY, WE'VE HAD A MOVEMENT TO TEAR DOWN MONUMENTS AND THINGS RELATING TO HISTORY, RELATING TO EVENTS RELATING TO GOD.

AND SO I'M VERY PROUD TO BE IN A COMMUNITY THAT RESPECTS THESE AND PUTS VALUES ON THESE.

AND SO I'M OF COURSE, IN SUPPORT OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, UH, THAT WILL BE REPRESENTED ON THE COURTYARD HERE, I BELIEVE IS THE LOCATION GONNA BE.

AND, UH, AS A SYMBOL OF ROCKWALL COUNTY'S COMMITMENT TO THE RULE OF LAW, TO JUSTICE, AND MAINTAINING A CIVIL SOCIETY FOR ALL THE COMMUNITIES THAT YOU FIND GENTLEMEN AND LADIES REPRESENT IN, UH, WE'VE ALLUDED TO THE HISTORY BEING ATTACHED TO ISRAEL.

AND THERE'S A STATEMENT THAT GOD, UH, PRONOUNCED IN IN HEBREWS SAYS, UH, IT SAYS JUSTICE, JUSTICE YOU SHALL PURSUE.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT RELIGIOUS.

AND I'M GONNA GIVE A LIST HERE FOR REFERENCE OF DIFFERENT PLACES AROUND THE WORLD WHERE THERE IS A MONUMENT OR A REPRESENTATION TO SHOW THAT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS WAY ABOVE RELIGIOUS, UH, INTENT, IT'S REALLY CULTURE.

IT'S HOW CIVILIZATIONS LIVE AND DETERMINE HOW THEY WILL INTERACT WITH ONE ANOTHER DOWN AT THE LOWEST RUNG OF SOCIETY.

AND SO, UH, IF I MAY TAKE A FEW MINUTES IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUR CAPITAL IN AUSTIN, THERE'S REPRESENTATION IN LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS.

THERE IS AN OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA AND PHOENIX, ARIZONA, PLEASANT GROVE, UTAH, BLOOMFIELD, NEW MEXICO, AND TUS OKLAHOMA INTERNATIONALLY, AND DO PLATEAU NIGERIA IN THE UKRAINE, TDI CITY, PHILIPPINES.

AND THEN IN INSTITUTIONS IN THE STATES.

HERE WE HAVE IT AT THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT IN SEVERAL LOCATIONS.

THERE'S REPRESENTATION IN THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES CHAMBER, AND ALSO THE APPELLATE DIVISION COURTHOUSE IN NEW YORK CITY.

IN EUROPE, WE HAVE ST.

PEDRO IN VIN COLEY.

FORGIVE ME, MARY, IF I BUTCHERED THE PRONUNCIATION IN ROME, THE OLD CITY OF BURN, SWITZERLAND IN COPENHAGEN, HAGEN CATHEDRAL IN DENMARK, THE OLDEST KNOWN REPRESENTATION WAS FOUND IN ISRAEL DATING BACK TO 300 TO 800 OF THE COMMON ERROR.

AND I MENTIONED THESE TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT ROCK WALL'S WANTING TO DO, UH, UNUSUALLY REPRESENTING SOME RELIGIOUS VIEWPOINT OR THAT, BUT REALLY WHAT I SEE, WE ARE SAYING TO PEOPLE THAT LOOK AT WHERE THEY WANT TO LIVE IN AMERICA.

AND OF COURSE, THEY FIND ROCKWALL PRETTY PROMINENT, AND WE HAVE SO MANY ACCOLADES ABOUT OUR COUNTY AND CITIES.

BUT I THINK HAVING THIS REPRESENTATION WILL ALSO MAKE A STATEMENT TO PEOPLE THAT LOOK OF WHERE WOULD THEY WANT TO RAISE THEIR FAMILY AND LIVE? AND THEY SAY, THAT IS A COUNTY THAT HAS DECIDED TO REPRESENT THE RULE OF LAW JUSTICE FOR ALL, AND TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THOSE KIND OF VALUES FOR THE FUTURE.

AND I ASK THAT IT BE UNANIMOUS TODAY TOO, WHEN YOU VOTE.

AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. MCCLIN TALK.

MICHELLE THURGOOD AND ON DECK IS JERRY BREWER.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING A MOMENT TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC.

I THINK THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE TO EXPRESS THEIR FEELINGS AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO OUR TOWN, BOTH, UM, PRACTICALLY AND MORALLY.

SO, AS BEEN STATED BEFORE, WE DO LIVE IN

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A VERY SPECIAL AREA THAT HAS A HISTORY OF HAVING A VERY STRONG MORAL FABRIC.

AND PLACING A 10 COMMANDMENT MONUMENT IN ROCKWELL COUNTY WOULD SERVE AS A POWERFUL SYMBOL OF THIS MORAL FOUNDATION THAT HAS SHAPED BOTH OUR NATION, BUT MOST ESPECIALLY THIS COMMUNITY.

THE FIRST TIME I ENTERED THIS COURTHOUSE ABOUT 13 YEARS AGO, I WAS, I BELIEVE I WAS REGISTERING A CAR.

AND, UH, I WAS VISITING WITH A LADY WHO WAS HELPING ME DO THAT.

AND SHE SIMPLY ASKED SOME PERSONAL QUESTIONS.

SHE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS AND WHAT RELIGION AND CHURCH DO I GO TO, AND ARE THERE ANY CUTE SINGLE BOYS THERE? AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, COMING FROM, I'M A PENNSYLVANIA GIRL, THAT'S WHERE I WAS RAISED.

AND IN THE EAST, YOU DON'T ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT RELIGION WHEN YOU ARE IN A PUBLIC BUILDING, .

AND I WAS REALLY TAKEN OFF BY IT.

BUT THEN VERY QUICKLY I WAS SMILING AND I WAS SO HAPPY, AND I FELT PERFECTLY AT HOME HERE.

AND WE CAN QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE QUESTION, BUT AT ITS VERY CORE, IT'S A REFLECTION OF WHO WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY, THAT WE AREN'T AFRAID ABOUT, TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE PERSONAL, THAT HAVE SHAPED THIS MORAL AREA AND COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO REFLECT THAT FOR OUR FUTURE CONSTITUENTS.

IT'S CERTAINLY WHO WE'VE BEEN IN THE PAST.

IT'S WHO WE ARE TODAY.

AND I HOPE IT'S ALL ALWAYS A PART OF WHO ROCKWELL COUNTY IS IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THIS 10 COMMAND MONUMENT.

IT ENCOURAGES REFLECTION.

THANK YOU, MICHELLE.

ALL RIGHT, JERRY BREWER, AND THEN ON DECK, SHERRY LONDON.

MORNING, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS THE VALUE OF HAVING A MONUMENT OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS AT OUR HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

THIS IS NOT MERELY A RELIGIOUS SYMBOL.

IT IS A HISTORICAL FOUNDATION FOR OUR LEGAL AND MORAL CODES.

THE 10 COMMANDMENTS HAVE SHAPED WESTERN LAW FOR CENTURIES.

PRINCIPLES LIKE PROHIBITIONS AGAINST THEFT, PERJURY, AND MURDER ARE REFLECTED DIRECTLY IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.

A MONUMENT ACKNOWLEDGES THE HISTORICAL ROOTS OF THESE LAWS AND REMINDS US THAT JUSTICE IS BUILT ON TIMELESS MORAL PRINCIPLES.

MOREOVER, SUCH A MONUMENT CAN SERVE AS A SYMBOL OF SHARED VALUES, RESPECT FOR LIFE, PROPERTY, HONESTY, AND FAMILY.

THESE ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE TO ANY ONE FAITH, BUT ARE IDEALS THAT UPHOLD CIVIL SOCIETY IN THE RULE OF LAW.

DISPLAYING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS DOESN'T COMPEL BELIEF.

IT REMINDS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CITIZENS ALIKE THAT JUSTICE IS NOT JUST ABOUT LEGALITY, BUT ABOUT WHAT IS DOING RIGHT.

LET US VIEW THIS NOT AS A PROMOTION OF A PARTICULAR RELIGION, BUT AS A RECOGNITION OF THE ETHICAL BACKBONE THAT HAS LONG GUIDED OUR NATION'S LEGAL AND MORAL TRADITION.

THANK YOU, MR. BURR.

ALL RIGHT, SHERRY LONDON AND ON DECK IS PHILLIP HATFIELD.

GOOD MORNING.

I HAD SOME THOUGHT ABOUT, DO I REALLY NEED TO COME AND SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I KNOW EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU SUPPORT IT.

BUT YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING, IF YOU DON'T STAND FOR SOMETHING, YOU'LL FALL FOR ANYTHING.

AND I WANNA COMMEND THIS COURT FOR STANDING FOR SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY WHEN GOD'S BEEN TAKEN OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS.

THEY SAY, YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE MORALITY WELL, WITH RESPECT, EVERY SINGLE LAW IS DOING JUST THAT.

BECAUSE IF WE WERE A MORAL PEOPLE, WE WOULDN'T REQUIRE LEGISLATION TO KEEP US ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW.

WE WOULDN'T REQUIRE A SOCIAL COMPACT THAT SAID, THIS IS WHAT IS OKAY, AND THIS IS WHAT IS NOT OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT EVERY SINGLE LAW ATTEMPTS TO DO.

SO I STAND HERE BLESSED BY A COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT AFRAID TO STAND FOR SOMETHING.

OUR LEGISLATURE HAD FIVE BILLS, UH, GOING THROUGH, UM, ABOUT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IN PUBLIC CLASSROOMS. ONE OF THOSE SENATE BILL 10 MADE IT OUT OF THE SENATE, MADE IT THROUGH THE HOUSE COMMITTEE.

IT'S IN CALENDARS RIGHT NOW.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL MAKE IT TO THE FLOOR FOR A VOTE.

BUT IN ROCK WALL, WE DON'T WAIT FOR AUSTIN TO ACT.

WE CAN LEAD THE WAY.

AND SO I'M BLESSED TO BE HERE IN A COMMUNITY THAT'S WILLING TO STAND FOR SOMETHING AND LEAD THE WAY.

THANK YOU, SHERRY.

PHILLIP HATFIELD, YOU FILLED OUT TWO.

DO YOU WANT TO, UH, JUST COMBINE 'EM? SURE, I CAN DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND THEN, THEN AFTER THAT IS DAVID NEMO.

FIRST OFF, GUYS, I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR SERVING OUR COUNTY.

YOU GUYS DO A WONDERFUL JOB.

WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.

VERY QUICKLY, I WAS GONNA SPEAK ON THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.

I WANNA SAY EVERYTHING I WANT TO SAY HAS BEEN SO ELOQUENTLY SAID.

THERE'S NOTHING MORE I CAN ADD.

YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE MONUMENT HERE.

THANK YOU TO THE AUTHOR, WHOEVER DID THIS.

I THINK IT'S MR. DICKIE, WHOEVER IT IS.

THANK YOU TO THE AUTHOR IN PRESENTING THAT.

THE NEXT THING I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT IS THE TERRY ROAD PROJECT.

I LIVE DOWN TERRY ROAD, UH, AND IT IS A HE CITY ROAD, BUT IT GOES TO A MAIN PARK,

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WHICH IS TERRY PARK.

NOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT TERRY PARK, WE HAVE A BOAT RAMP THERE, BUT WE HAVE FIVE BOAT RAMPS IN, IN THE, UH, COUNTY OF ROCKWALL.

AND THOSE FIVE BOAT RAMPS, ONE OF THE BUSIEST ONES IS THE ONE THAT IS RIGHT DOWN ON TERRY PARK, DOWN TERRY ROAD.

NOT ONLY IS THAT A HE CITY ROAD, BUT IS USED BY MOST RESIDENTS OF ROCKWALL COUNTY AS THEY FREQUENT OUR BEAUTIFUL PARK, LAUNCH THEIR BOATS, PICK UP THEIR BOATS.

YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN ON ANY SUNDAY, SEE HOW FULL IT IS WITH BOATS, TRAILERS, AND TRUCKS.

VERY TRAVELED ROAD.

OUR ROAD HAS DEFINITELY BEEN TORN UP.

UH, UH, DO LOTS OF THINGS.

CONSTRUCTION, NOT HAVING MAINTENANCE THE LAST FEW YEARS WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER POSITIVELY WHATEVER MONIES WE HAVE THAT COULD BE APPROPRIATED TO THAT.

I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ABOUT 2 MILLION FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

I MAY BE WRONG, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS LOOK AT THAT ROAD.

IT IS VERY DANGEROUS.

UH, YOU HAVE ROADS WHERE THE WHOLE RIGHT LANE IS CAVED IN.

TWO CARS CANNOT PASS.

THEN WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE WALKING THE ROAD, GOING TO AND FROM OUR BEAUTIFUL PARK PEOPLE RIDING BICYCLES.

AND THEN YOU STILL HAVE THE BOATS AND THE TRAILERS GOING, PASSING BACK AND FORTH.

UH, ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO, I WAS DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD.

UH, I WAS TURNING OFF OF MY ROAD, WHICH IS, UH, OFF OF, UH, LEMLEY DRIVE ONTO TERRY.

AND A POLICE OFFICER WAS HAVING TO MAKE A CALL AS HE WAS MAKING THE CALL RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT PART, THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN'T HARDLY RIDE.

BUT THE OFFICER MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THAT AS HIS RIGHT FRONT TIRE HIT THAT.

IT THREW HIM INTO MY LANE, THEN THREW HIM BACK OVER INTO THE OTHER LANE.

HE REGAINED CONTROL AND WENT ON DOWN TO HIS CALL DOWN AT TERRY PARK.

PLEASE CONSIDER THAT.

AND ALSO, I WANT TO TELL YOU THANK YOU TO OUR SHERIFFS, BECAUSE OUR COUNTY SHERIFF IS ALSO THERE.

HE HAS PATROL THERE.

AT LEAST TWICE A DAY YOU'LL SEE A, A, UH, SHERIFF FROM THE COUNTY THERE.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A HEATH CITY ROAD, IT IS A COUNTY ROAD GOING TO OUR BEAUTIFUL PARK.

AND GUYS, I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU.

WHATEVER YOU CAN APPROPRIATE TO THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

COMMANDMENT, UH, MEMORIALIZATION ON OUR COUNTY GROUNDS.

THANK YOU, MR. HATFIELD.

DAVID NEMO, AND ON DECK IS MITCH OBE.

BOY, IF I'D ONLY KNOWN THAT I HAD TO FOLLOW SO MANY ELOQUENT SPEAKERS, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE HERE.

UM, I WANNA START BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR SERVING IN THE POSITIONS THAT YOU SERVE.

IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE, UM, PEOPLE THAT I COUNT MEN OF GOD IN, IN PLACES WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

UM, I AM COMING FORTH MOSTLY BECAUSE I WANNA GO ON RECORD AS BEING DEFINITELY FOR THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, BEING ON A MONUMENT HERE.

UM, I I WANNA SAY QUICKLY THAT IN 1984, NOVEMBER, MY WIFE AND I WERE VISITING ROCKWALL.

AND WHILE WE WERE HERE WITH, UH, STAYING WITH HER COUSIN, HE SAID TO US, UH, YOU WANNA GO TO CHURCH TOMORROW WITH US? I SAID, SURE, BECAUSE WE'RE CHURCH COINED PEOPLE.

IT WAS IN THAT SERVICE WHERE GOD, ONE OF THE FEW TIMES IN MY LIFE THAT HE'S SPOKEN SO CLEARLY, BUT HE SAID TO ME, THIS IS WHERE I WANT YOU TO BE.

AND WITHIN A YEAR, WE WERE DOWN HERE LIVING.

WE MOVED A THOUSAND MILES, WE WERE IN DETROIT, AND I BEGAN TO SEE VERY QUICKLY THAT GOD HAD A SPECIAL CALLING ON ROCKWALL.

AND THE, THE, THE MOUNTING OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ON, UM, ON A, ON A MOUNT MONUMENT IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW OTHER CITIES W WE'RE SITTING, WE'RE SITTING, UM, AN EXAMPLE FOR THE OTHER CITIES TO FOLLOW, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S BEEN A SEASON WHERE, UM, I THINK IT WAS OBAMA THAT STOOD UP AND SAID, WE ARE NOT A GUY.

WE'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION.

AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, THAT'S A LIE.

WE, WE ARE, IT JUST DOESN'T APPEAR BECAUSE SO MANY THINGS WRONG ARE ARE, ARE GOING ON, AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING QUIET THAT SHOULD NOT BE QUIET ANYMORE.

AND SO I, UM, I I'M JUST EXCITED THAT, THAT WE ARE DOING THIS.

NOW, THE OTHER THING I FOUND OUT DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH ON ROCKWALL IS THAT IT WAS RECOGNIZED AS A TOWN IN 1854.

AND MY HEART BREAKS TO THINK, WHY DID OUR, OUR FOUNDING FATHERS OF THIS TOWN, WHICH BECAME A CITY, WHY DID THEY NOT SET UP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS? AND, AND, AND, AND I CONSOLE MYSELF WITH SAYING, IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND I, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT AND IS RIGHT, ESPECIALLY IN GOD'S EYES.

MITCH OWENBY, AM I SAYING THAT LAST NAME CORRECT, SIR? YES, SIR.

OWEN B AND ON DECK IS, UH, DAN GRIDLEY.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I, I JUST WANT TO SPEAK STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF THE 10

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I THINK IT SETS A PRECEDENT, UH, THAT IS LONG OVERDUE, STRONG SUPPORT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

DAN GRIDLEY AND ON DECK IS BUD WILDER.

WELL, GOOD MORNING.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

UM, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF GREAT REASONS FOR THIS MONUMENT, AND I COULDN'T AGREE WITH THEM MORE.

UH, AND I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE A BE FITTING REMINDER AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE IDEALS, THE PRINCIPLES, AND THE MORALS THAT THIS GREAT COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON.

SO I HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, BUD WILDER AND ON DECK IS KAREN MYERS.

BUD STILL HERE? IS BUD NOT HERE? NO, BUD WILDER.

ALL RIGHT, KAREN, YOU'RE UP STRAIGHT TO IT.

AND THEN ON DECK IS DR. STANLEY SA SCOTT.

SCOTT, YEAH, SORRY.

TO DECLARE TO YOU MY FULL AND COMPLETE SUPPORT FOR THE PRESENTA PRESENTATION OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS BEFORE US.

SORRY.

LAUREN'S FATHER-IN-LAW'S ON DECK, .

WELL, HELLO, FRIENDS.

I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

GLAD TO DO IT.

UM, WHAT I WANNA SAY IS I REALLY CAN'T SAY ANYTHING THAT COMPARES TO ANYTHING THAT OTHERS HAVE COME BEFORE ME TO SAY, OTHER THAN I THINK THAT WE ARE TASKED BY GOD TO GET THIS DONE, AND I'M SO FOR IT.

AND I THINK THAT 10 COMMANDMENTS SHOULD BE A MONUMENT ON OUR COURTHOUSE.

ON THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KAREN.

ALL RIGHT, DR. STANLEY SCOTT, I, I GET BETTER AS I GO ALONG.

MISTY GKI IS ON DECK.

I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I BROUGHT ALONG, UH, JUST SO HAPPENS TO HAVE MY CONSTITUTION WITH ME.

AND I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE WORDS THAT ARE SAID THERE ABOUT THE, ABOUT GOD BEING IN, IN OUR CREATION AND IN OUR, IN OUR, UH, EXCUSE ME.

IN OUR, UH, DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.

WE ARE ENDOWED BY OUR CREATOR IS ONE , THE, THE SUPREME LEADER OF THE WORLD, THE DIVINE PROVIDENCE.

AND THEN AT THE END, IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE, THE MEN WHO SIGNED US THAT STRUCK ME SO, SO HARD WITH FIRM RELIANCE UPON THE PROTECTION OF DIVINE PROVIDENCE.

WE MUTUALLY PLEDGE TO EACH OTHER, OUR LIVES, OUR FORTUNES, AND OUR SACRED DUTIES.

THESE 56 MEN ALL SIGNED THAT PLEDGE.

AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM IN THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR? 12 OF THEM WERE KILLED IN THE WAR.

OTHERS, THEIR SONS WERE ALSO KILLED.

MANY WERE WOUNDED.

SOME OF THEM FINISHED THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR IN ABJECT POVERTY.

HAVING GIVEN ALL OUR NATION FOUNDED ON THIS JUDAH CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLE IS ONE THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND TOUCH WITH ONE MORE TIME.

THESE 10 COMMANDMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO OUR NATION AND TO OUR PEOPLE BECAUSE WE LIFT UP THE, THE RULES BY WHICH GOD ESTABLISHED THE JEWISH NATION.

AND I KNOW SOMEBODY FROM THE JEWISH NATION, AND HIS NAME WAS JESUS.

AND SO I, I, I BRING THOSE THINGS TOGETHER IN ORDER TO SHARE WITH YOU THIS DAY MY HEARTFELT THANKS FOR THE NATION THAT GOD HAS ALLOWED ME TO BE BORN IN.

I THANK GOD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY.

I THANK GOD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY AND TO, WITH ALL THAT IS WITHIN ME,

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THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORLD, YOUR VOTE, AND YOUR SUPPORT IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN.

I THINK WE ARE SPEAKING GREAT WORDS TO A WORLD THAT NEEDS IT SO DESPERATELY.

THANK YOU, DR. SCOTT.

MISTY GKI AND ON DECK IS KAON HUDDLESTON.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

NEW AND COMMISSIONERS.

I THINK YOU ALMOST GOT MY NAME RIGHT THAT TIME.

I, I, YOU GUYS SO CLOSE , I, I WORK ON IT.

I KNEW WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER LI D THAT I WANTED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO SHOW SUPPORT.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I WOULD SAY SOMETHING, BUT I THINK, LIKE SHERRY LONDON SAID, I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO GET UP AND SAY SOMETHING.

AND, UM, THERE'S SO MANY BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID THAT LAST.

I DON'T KNOW HOW I COULD FOLLOW UP WHAT WAS JUST SAID RIGHT THEN.

UM, BUT WHAT I DO NEED TO SAY PERSONALLY, IT'S JUST, THANK YOU.

UH, LATELY LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENED NATIONALLY ON A STATE LEVEL, I THINK THAT IT JUST MAKES ME SO, SO THANKFUL FOR OUR LEADERSHIP THAT WE HAVE IN ROCKWALL COUNTY.

I KNOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN GET FRUSTRATED AND WE THINK THINGS AREN'T NECESSARILY THE WAY WE WANT 'EM TO BE, OR, BUT WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE YOU GUYS.

WE REALLY ARE, WE'RE VERY BLESSED, AND I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS PASS.

I KNOW IT WILL.

UM, BUT I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WAS LEFT TO SAY IS THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE YOU ALL.

CASON HUDDLESTON, AND ON DECK IS LOGAN HODGE, UH, COMMISSIONERS JUDGE, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME AND SPEAK.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND TO ALL OF YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR FRIENDSHIP.

UH, THIS MORNING, I COME BEFORE YOU TO, TO STRONGLY SUPPORT THE DISCIPLINE OF OUR 10 COMMANDMENTS AT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE.

THERE'S BEEN MANY, MANY OTHER ELEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SPOKEN, UM, BUT I WANT TO JUST ENCOURAGE YOU, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A RELIGIOUS GESTURE THAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, THOUGH I AM A RELIGIOUS MAN.

I LOVE JESUS.

BUT IT'S A WAY TO HONOR THE HISTORICAL FOUNDATIONS OF OUR LEGAL AND MORAL TRADITIONS OF OUR NATION.

THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, AS YOU KNOW, HAVE SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANTLY INFLUENCED THE DEVELOPMENT OF WESTERN LAW, INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES.

AND MOST OF OUR CORE LAWS SUCH AS THEFT, PERJURY, AND MURDER, REFLECT THE VERY PRINCIPLES FOUND IN THOSE COMMANDMENTS.

AND AS WE DISPLAY THEM, WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR HERITAGE, AND REMIND OURSELVES OF THE ENDURING VALUES THAT GUIDE OUR SOCIETY TOWARDS JUSTICE AND ORDER.

IMPORTANTLY, THE US SUPREME COURT HAS RECOGNIZED THAT THESE SUCH DISPLAYS CAN BE CONSTITUTIONAL WHEN PRESENTED IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT.

IN VAN ORDEN VERSUS PERRY 2005, THE COURT UPHELD THE 10 COMMANDMENTS MONUMENT ON PUBLIC GROUNDS.

BECAUSE IT WAS A PART OF A BROADER DISPLAY OF THE HISTORY OF LAW, IT WASN'T A, AN ATTEMPT TO PROMOTE A PARTICULAR RE RELIGION.

AND THIS SHOWS US THAT WE HERE IN ROCKWALL, WE CAN HONOR OUR LEGAL HISTORY WHILE RESPECTING THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE AS LONG AS WE DO IT THOROUGHLY AND THOUGHTFULLY.

PUBLIC OPINION ALSO DISPLAYS THIS, NOT ONLY IS A HUNDRED PERCENT HERE, BUT ACROSS AMERICA, ABOUT 70% BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT OF AMERICANS TO DISPLAY THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.

AND THIS REFLECTS THE BROAD RECOGNITION OF OUR HISTORICAL AND CULT CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THESE COMMANDMENTS.

AND IT GOES BEYOND THE RELIGIOUS MEANING.

THIS APPROACH, WHICH HAS BEEN UPHELD IN SEVERAL CASES, COURTS IN, IN, IN UPHELD BY COURTS IN SEVERAL CASES, DEMONSTRATES THAT THE INTENT IS TO EDUCATE AND COMMEMORATE NOT TO PROSELYTIZE.

IN FACT, IN 1961, AS IT WAS MENTIONED, THE 10 COMMANDMENTS MONUMENT HAS STOOD JUST NORTH OF THE TEXAS CAPITOL BETWEEN THE CAPITOL AND THE SUPREME COURT.

BUILDING THIS SIX FOOT HIGH, THREE FOOT WIDE MONUMENT MADE OF TEXAS SUNSET RED GRANITE SHAPED LIKE THE TRADITIONAL BIBLICAL TABLETS, AS WE HAVE MOST IN OUR MINDS, IS STILL MAINTAINED AND PROTECTED BY THE TEXAS STATE PRESERVATION BOARD.

IN CONCLUSION, DISPLAYING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS AT OUR ROCKWALL COUNTY COURTHOUSE IS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF A SPECIFIC FAITH.

IT'S ABOUT HONORING THE VERY ROOTS OF OUR LEGAL SYSTEM AND THE SHARED VALUES THAT UNITE US AND MAKE OUR COUNTRY THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE FACE OF THIS PLANET.

COMMISSIONERS, I IMPLORE YOU AND LET US MOVE FORWARD TO DISPLAY WITH RESPECT BOTH OUR HISTORY AND OUR CONSTITUTION.

OVER 250 YEARS AGO, 53 OF THE 55 6, UH, OF 53 OF THE 56 SIGNERS OF THE CONSTITUTION WERE BY BELIEVING CHURCH ATTENDING CHRISTIANS.

CA LOGAN HODGE AND ON DECK IS THOMAS ROWELL.

HELLO.

AND I THANK Y'ALL FOR GIVING ME THE CHANCE TO SPEAK.

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THEY PARTNERED WITH GOD IN THE FOUNDING OF OUR NATION AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO SEEING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, SEEING THE BIBLE AS THE FOUNDING DOCUMENT DOCUMENTS FOR OUR VERY NATION.

AND THAT IS WHY I FAVOR THE PLAQUE OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS BEING PRESENTED IN THE, IN THE YARD OF THIS VERY BUILDING, A BUILDING WHOSE INSTITUTION IS BASED ON THE 10 COMMANDMENTS AS THE FIRST SET OF LAWS FOR HUMANITY.

BECAUSE THAT PHYSICAL REPRESENTATION OF THE SAME COMMANDMENTS IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS TRULY ABOUT.

AND WHY WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, BECAUSE IT IS FROM GOD.

WE GET OUR FREEDOM.

AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF WHETHER, IT'S A MATTER OF WHETHER, WHETHER THE ORIGINAL LAWS THAT ARE THE FOUNDATION FOR OUR GOVERNMENT, THIS VERY INSTITUTION THAT WE DECIDE TO HONOR THEM.

AND THE WAY THAT I APPROACH THIS IS THAT LIVING IS MAKING CHOICES.

I BELIEVE Y'ALL WILL MAKE THE CORRECT CHOICE TO HONOR GOD BY PUTTING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS OUTSIDE THIS VERY BUILDING.

AND IN THE WORDS OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN CHIEF THAT SPARRED AGAINST OUR, ONE OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, OUR OWN VERY GEORGE WASHINGTON, I WANT TO HONOR THE GOD THAT PROTECTED YOU AND THE NUMEROUS TIMES WE SPARRED AGAINST ONE ANOTHER.

AND I THANK Y'ALL FOR THE TIME TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITIES ONCE, IF Y'ALL TO HONOR GOD IN REPRESENTING GOD IN THE 10 COMMANDMENTS AND PUTTING THEM OUT OUTSIDE IN FRONT OF THIS VERY BUILDING.

AND THAT IS, I BELIEVE I'LL MAKE THE BE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU, LOGAN THOMAS, ROLL AND ON DECK IS ROBERT LAMBERTH.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, MY WIFE AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR CONSIDERING THIS MATTER, THIS PROPOSAL.

WE ARE IN COMPLETE SUPPORT FOR THE MATTER AS STATED, BECAUSE IT IS A DECLARATION OF OUR COMMITMENT TO THE GOD WHO CREATED US AND SET HIS LAW FOR ALL TO LIVE BY.

AND THEN CINDY HORN IS ON DECK.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COUNSEL.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU DO.

ROCKWELL IS BECAUSE OF FOLKS BEFORE YOU, LIKE YOU AND FOLKS THAT ARE COMING AFTER YOU ARE GONNA MAINTAIN AND BUILD ON WHAT YOU GUYS ARE BUILDING ON NOW, YOU KNOW, I, UM, I KIND OF LOOKED AROUND THE AUDIENCE AND, AND THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER GENTLEMAN.

OH, OH, I'M SORRY.

THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER GENTLEMAN THAT I THINK IS OLDER THAN ME, AND THAT'S DR.

STAN.

THERE MAY BE, THERE MAY BE ONE OR TWO THAT THAT'S OLDER.

WE MOVED TO ROCKWELL IN 1978, AND, UH, THAT'S A WONDERFUL MOVE FOR US.

I ACTUALLY MOVED FROM LAKE COLLINS, AND, AND I'M GONNA MAKE THIS SHORT BECAUSE SO MANY, SO MANY GOOD WORDS HAVE COME FORTH AND, AND SO MANY, AND I, I JUST APPRECIATE MY FELLOW CITIZENS HERE THAT COME AND, AND, AND STAND FOR SOMETHING.

BUT WHAT THEY'RE STANDING FOR IS GOOD.

I GREW UP IN A TIME WHEN I KNEW ABOUT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.

I'M LIVING IN A TIME WHEN I, WELL, I'VE SEEN OUR NATION.

WHEN WE TOOK PRAYER OUT OF THE CLASSROOM, WE TOOK BIBLE READING OUT OF THE CLASSROOM.

IS OUR NATION BETTER TODAY THAN IT? I DON'T THINK SO.

SO THIS IS EXCITING.

THIS IS ANOTHER WAY TO BRING THE PASS TO REBUILD, REFOCUS ON GOD.

OUR KIDS NEED IT, AND WE NEED IT.

SO, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

CINDY HORN.

AND ON DECK IS JOHANNA REYNOLDS.

I HOPE I CAN GET THROUGH THIS.

I'VE LOST MY VOICE A LITTLE BIT FROM A LOT OF TALKING GOING ON.

UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

WHEN I HEARD THIS WAS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA, I THOUGHT ABOUT THE TIME SIX YEARS AGO WHEN I LIVED IN VIRGINIA, AND LIKE ONE OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS SAID, WHAT WAS GOING ON WAS SHOCKING.

IT WAS, UM, DEVASTATING TO ME.

AND WE WERE TEARING DOWN MONUMENTS, UM, IN RICHMOND, THE CAPITOL.

THEY TORE DOWN ANYTHING OF RELIGIOUS SIGNIFICANCE OR HISTORICAL CON SIGNIFICANCE.

SO I'M INCREDIBLY HONORED TO BE SPEAKING BEFORE

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YOU TODAY, UM, WITH THESE WORDS.

UM, THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, THEY'RE NOT JUST RELIGIOUS PRECEPTS.

THEY'RE FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE SHAPED OUR LEGAL AND OUR MORAL TRADITIONS FOR CENTURIES.

DISPLAY 'EM, DISPLAYING THEM AT THE COURTHOUSE, ACKNOWLEDGES THE HISTORICAL ROOTS OF OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM AND REINFORCES TIMELESS VALUES LIKE HONESTY, RESPECT, AND JUSTICE, IN MY OPINION, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE LOST IN THIS COUNTRY.

IT'S NOT ABOUT PROMOTING A SPECIFIC RELIGION, BUT HONORING THE ETHICAL FRAMEWORK, UM, THAT HAS GUIDED LAWMAKERS AND CITIZENS ALIKE IN A TIME THAT WE SEEK UNITY AND SHARED VALUES.

THE 10 COMMANDMENTS SERVE AS A POWERFUL REMINDER OF THE MORAL COMPASS THAT UNDERPINS OUR LAWS IN SOCIETY.

I ENCOURAGE OUR COUNTY TO APPROVE THIS EFFORT AND LET, UM, ROCKWELL COUNTY BE KNOWN FOR ITS SUPPORT OF THE MORAL VALUES THAT MAKE AMERICA GREAT.

THANK YOU, CINDY.

JOHANNA, IT'S A BLESSING TO BE ABLE TO STAND HERE TODAY AND ADDRESS YOU ALL WITHOUT FEAR THAT I'M GONNA BE SHOT OR ARRESTED ON THE WAY OUT THE DOOR , WHICH MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

AT ANY RATE, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK LAUREN.

TY IN PARTICULAR, I BELIEVE HAS CRAFTED THIS.

YES, IT'S GONNA BE A BLESSING TO OUR COUNTY.

I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO APPROVE IT.

SO ANYWAY, BUT WE WANT IT TO GO ON RECORD TO SHOW SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGEMENT TO OTHERS WHO MIGHT BE A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT PUBLIC SPEAKING.

AND WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE NOT SUPPORTING IT.

UM, I'M IMPRESSED THAT WE HAD A YOUNG MAN, LOGAN, WHO CAME UP HERE.

I MEAN, HE'S PROBABLY THE KID OF THE GROUP.

WE HAVE HIM, AS JEAN SAID, FROM, WELL, THEY'RE NOT CRADLE EXACTLY, BUT, YOU KNOW, BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM OF LIFE.

, AND I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH, UH, THE WORDS OF SHERRY LONDON AND SEVERAL OTHERS WHO PRECEDED ME HAVE SAID THINGS THAT ARE ON MY HEART THAT DON'T NEED TO BE REITERATED.

BUT I, THE ONE THING THAT POPPED IN MY HEAD THIS MORNING, I WAS PRAYING IF I GOT TO SPEAK, WAS JUST TO SPECULATE WITH YOU ALL, WHAT IN THE WORLD WERE THE JUDGES THINKING? WHO SAID POSTING 10 COMMANDMENTS IS A BAD THING FOR KIDS TO READ IN SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY MIGHT OBEY THEM.

WHICH ONE OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS MIGHT THEY BE THINKING OF? SO ANYWAY, I'M GRATEFUL THAT THESE WILL BE ON PUBLIC DISPLAY AND CHILDREN THAT ARE VISITING OUR SQUARE MIGHT ACTUALLY READ THEM AND OBEY THEM.

SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING THEM THAT PRIVILEGE.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, JOHANNA.

THAT'S THE LAST PERSON THAT HAS SIGNED UP.

BUT THOSE OF YOU THAT WATCH ONLINE AND, AND ATTEND THE COURT MEETINGS KNOW JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE SIGNED UP DOES NOT, OR JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED UP DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM SPEAKING.

SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT? UH, THAT THE HAND IN THE, I'M GONNA CALL IT LAVENDER WENT UP FIRST.

LAVENDER, AND THEN YOU CAN BE ON DECK.

KNOWS THAT COLOR? LAVENDER.

IT IS LAVENDER, ISN'T IT? OKAY.

I IMPRESSED SOMEBODY TODAY WITH MY KNOWLEDGE OF COLORS, .

AND YOU'LL NEED TO TELL US YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS BETH MAYNARD, AND WE HAVEN'T LIVED IN ROCKWALL VERY LONG WITH THIS THING MOVES.

UM, WE, WE GOT HERE IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR, MOVED UP HERE FROM SAN ANTONIO.

UM, THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING ALL OF US.

EVEN THOSE OF US WHO MAY NOT AGREE WITH THE TOTAL VIEWPOINT IS EXPRESSED SO FAR.

SO I WANTED TO COME UP AND EXPRESS A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT.

UM, I TOTALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING EVERYBODY HAS SAID SO FAR.

COUPLE OF THINGS I WANNA ADDRESS.

I WAS A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER FOR A LONG TIME, AND, UH, PEOPLE HAVE SAID WE'VE TAKEN GOD OUT OF SCHOOLS.

WE'VE TAKEN PRAYER OUTTA SCHOOLS.

AND AS LONG AS THEY'RE BELIEVING PEOPLE IN A SCHOOL ROOM, YOU CANNOT TAKE GOD OUT OF IT.

UH, YOU CANNOT TAKE PRAYER OUT OF SCHOOL BECAUSE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY TEACHERS PRAY ALL THE TIME.

UM, AND HAVING A DISPLAY OF SOMETHING IN A CLASSROOM DOES NOT MEAN KIDS ARE GONNA FOLLOW IT.

I CAN HAVE A DISPLAY IN MY CLASSROOM OF EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO DO TO PASS A CERTAIN TEST.

I'D STILL HAVE 75% OF THE KIDS NOT PASS YOU.

BRAIN RESEARCH TELLS US THAT YOU SEE SOMETHING ONCE OR TWICE AND THEN YOUR EYES JUST GLOSS OVER IT.

THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ARE IMPORTANT.

UM, THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE, I'M FORGOTTEN, WHO HE WAS DRESSED VERY NICELY, HAD A

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DARK SUIT AND A BEARD.

HE HAD A LOT OF GREAT POINTS.

UM, BUT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IS NOT OUR ONLY BASIS OF LAW IN THIS COUNTRY.

UH, THE CODE OF RABI PREDATES THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.

UH, THE CODE OF RABI 10 COMMANDMENTS.

OTHER, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT JUST THERE.

WERE NOT JUST 10 IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.

THERE WERE A LOT, UM, UH, THE MAGNA CARTA.

UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS GOING UP.

I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND SAY, THERE ARE THOSE OF US IN THE COMMUNITY THAT Y'ALL REPRESENT.

I APPRECIATE Y'ALL REPRESENTING US TOO.

UM, THAT WOULD RATHER NOT, RATHER IT NOT GO UP.

SO I JUST WANTED TO REPRESENT THAT SIDE.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU, BETH.

UH, WHERE, I'M SORRY YOU MOVED.

COME ON UP AND THANK YOU.

GIVE US YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

I'M MELVA PHELPS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WATCHING JEOPARDY THE OTHER DAY, AND HERE ARE THESE THREE BRILLIANT CONTESTANTS.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY SMART PEOPLE ON JEOPARDY, BROAD KNOWLEDGE.

AND THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT IS THIS CALLED? UM, AND THE, THE CLUE THAT WAS GIVEN WAS, UM, THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO UNTO OTHERS AS WE WANT OTHERS TO DO UNTO US.

AND WHAT IS THAT CALLED? NOT ONE OF THOSE THREE CONTESTANTS WHO WERE ADULTS KNEW WHAT IT WAS CALLED, WHICH IS THE GOLDEN RULE.

I WAS ABSOLUTELY APPALLED.

THAT'S HOW LONG THE EMPHASIS ON THE GOLDEN RULE ON 10 COMMANDMENTS ON COMMON SENSE HAS BEEN LEFT OUT OF OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM.

I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE DO ON EARTH IS SEEN IN HEAVEN AND RECORDED.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE STANDS FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

AND IN THE MOMENT IN WHICH WE ARE LIVING RIGHT NOW, WE IN THIS COUNTY ARE GOING TO REALLY BE CHALLENGED IN THE DAYS AHEAD ABOUT WHAT WE BELIEVE BECAUSE WE HAVE, AND THIS IS CONTROVERSIAL, BUT I'M GONNA SAY IT BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER GOD WHO IS GOING TO BE INTRODUCED NEXT DOOR, AND ANOTHER SET OF LAWS THAT IS NOT ACCORDING TO OUR CONSTITUTION, NOR OUR FOUNDATIONAL BELIEFS.

AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY TO PUT OUR FOOT DOWN, TO PUT OUR MONUMENT DOWN AND SAY, THIS IS WHO WE ARE IN THIS COUNTY.

AND BE A SIGN AND A WONDER TO THOSE AROUND US TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO STAND FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

AMEN.

ONE FINAL THING THE SCRIPTURE SAYS, BLESSED IS THE NATION WHOSE GOD IS THE LORD.

WE CAN BRING THAT ON DOWN.

BLESSED IS THE COUNTY AND THE CITIES THERE IN, AND GOD IS THE LORD.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL DOING THIS TODAY, YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DECLARE IN OUR COUNTY, AND I HOPE EACH OF YOU WILL VOTE FOR IT.

UH, THIS BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM TWO, DISCUSSION OF 89TH, LEGISLATIVE SESSION, UPDATE OVERVIEW, COUNTY RELATED BILLS AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT? ALL RIGHT.

SEE YOU.

NO ONE.

UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO DO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

THEN I'M GONNA JUMP AROUND LIKE I'M PRONE TO DO, TO AGENDA ITEM 22.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE A, A, A LITTLE BREAK.

UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, NO, THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND WE, WE WILL, UH, MOVE ON AGENDA ITEM 14 AS WELL.

SO, WELL THAT, THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S A VOTE OF COMPETENCE, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE LEAVING.

SO,

[2. Discussion of 89th Legislative Session Update/Overview County-related bills, and all related issues; (Commissioners Court)]

COMMISSIONERS, UH, LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER GALANA.

BUSY, UH, LEGISLATIVE, UH, SESSION WEEK DOWN IN AUSTIN.

WE, UM, LAST WEEK WAS A VERY

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I WAS DOWN THERE TWO DIFFERENT TIMES, UH, IN AUSTIN LAST WEEK.

UM, TRYING TO WORK ON SOME BILLS, UM, TRYING TO PREVENT SOME BILLS.

SO I'LL, I'LL GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE.

UM, I TESTIFIED ON BEHALF OF HB 32 53 LAST WEEK, WHICH IS A RURAL CONSTABLES GRANT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

AND SO WHAT THIS WOULD DO WAS PROVIDE US WITH SOME MUCH NEEDED FUNDS FOR CONSTABLES, FOR EQUIPMENT, UM, FOR DEPUTIES, AND FOR MANY OTHER THINGS FOR OUR, UH, CONSTABLE DEPARTMENTS AS THEIR WORKLOAD CONTINUES TO INCREASE.

AND THAT BILL HAS, UH, BEEN PLACED ON HOUSE CALENDAR NOW.

UM, AND IT SHOULD, UH, IT SHOULD GET A VOTE SOON, I HOPE.

WE'RE REALLY PUTTING THE PRESSURE ON TO TRY TO GET HP 32 53 VOTED ON, NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON QUICKLY, AND THEN, UH, AND THEN REFERRED TO THE SENATE FOR IT TO HAVE ANY CHANCE.

WE'RE OBVIOUSLY DOWN TO THE WIRE.

UM, I MET WITH, UH, SENATOR ANGELA PAXTON'S, UH, LEGISLATIVE TEAM ON, UM, SB 1844, UH, LAST WEEK.

THAT BILL, UM, HAS PASSED THE SENATE, BUT CRADDOCK HAS THE SIMILAR BILL IN THE HOUSE.

AND WE JUST, THIS BILL IS A DE ANNEXATION BILL THAT BASICALLY SAYS IF YOU, UH, RESIDE IN A CITY, BUT THEY DON'T PROVIDE, UH, CERTAIN SERVICES, UM, TO YOU FROM THE CITY, THINK, UM, IF YOU'RE ON SEPTIC, UH, YOU COULD JUST DE ANNEX YOURSELF OUT OF THE CITY AND THEN SUDDENLY BE IN THE COUNTY, WHICH WOULD THEN LEAVE US HERE IN THE COUNTY.

UH, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PROVIDE SERVICES LIKE EMERGENCY SERVICES, FIRE, POLICE, ALL THE THINGS THAT, THAT YOU NEED, UM, THAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM THE CITY CURRENTLY IF YOU'RE IN THAT SITUATION.

AND THAT COMES AT A COST.

AND, UH, PERSONALLY I BELIEVE THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT DE ANNEX THEMSELVES UNDER THIS SITUATION ARE GONNA FIND THEMSELVES WORSE OFF.

UM, PROBABLY NOT WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICES RIGHT AWAY.

AND MAYBE AT, UH, UH, AN INCREASED COST AS WE TRY TO GRAPPLE WITH WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS FOR THE COUNTY IF IT HAPPENS.

THE GOOD NEWS IS, WHILE THAT BILL DID PASS THE SENATE 1844, UM, I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH, UH, THE LEGISLATIVE TEAM.

AND WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY, UM, GOOD, UH, UH, AMENDMENTS IN PLACE THROUGH A SUBSTITUTE THAT ARE GONNA KIND OF DEFINE THIS BILL TO A NEIGHBORHOOD IN AUSTIN, WHICH IS WHAT I FOUND OUT THEY'RE REALLY AFTER WITH THIS BILL, IS THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD IN AUSTIN, UM, THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS BEEN TAXING FOR 30 YEARS THAT HAS NO CITY SERVICES.

ZERO.

UM, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BILL IS FOR, BUT I'VE ASKED FOR IT TO BE SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UM, AND I THINK THE HOUSE BILL IS GONNA DO JUST THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT SHOULD ULTIMATELY PASS AND, UM, AND HOPEFULLY, UH, PROTECT US.

UM, I'LL GIVE A COUPLE MORE AND THEN I'LL LET, UH, COMMISSIONER MLA GIVE AN UPDATE.

'CAUSE WE COULD BE HERE ALL DAY IF I KEEP GOING.

UM, HB 23 AND SB 2354 ARE THE BILLS THAT ALLOW THIRD PARTY PLATING.

SO THINK OF, UM, YOU KNOW, A, UH, DEVELOPER, UM, BEING ABLE TO CIRCUMVENT, UH, UH, A CITY MUNICIPALITY OR THE COUNTY AND GO GET THEIR OWN, UH, THIRD PARTY, UH, INSPECTIONS AND ON AND ON TO BE ABLE TO GET PLATTED.

UM, THINK OF WHERE THIS, I SAID THIS LAST SESSION, THINK OF WHERE THIS PROBABLY ENDS UP.

UH, EVENTUALLY, WHO IS GONNA OWN THESE THIRD PARTY COMPANIES? UH, WHO'S, WHO'S REALLY INTERESTED IN THESE? THE DEVELOPERS.

IT'S GONNA REALLY PUT THEM ON A, UH, ON AN UNLEVEL PLAYING FIELD, AND IT'LL BE EXTREMELY UNFAIR TO, TO COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES.

UM, THIS BILL IS GOING TO PASS, UM, DESPITE ALL OF OUR EFFORTS AGAINST THAT, IT'S GOING TO PASS.

WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD AMENDMENTS ADDED TO IT THAT ADD PRETTY STRINGENT LIABILITY ON THE DEVELOPER AND THE, AND THE THIRD PARTY.

UM, BUT, UH, ANNA SHOCK CLOCK, UH, THAT WILL HELP US A LITTLE BIT.

UM, AND WE'RE ABLE TO REVIEW.

UH, ORIGINALLY WE WEREN'T EVEN REALLY ABLE TO REVIEW THESE DOCUMENTS WE GOT FROM THESE THIRD PARTY PEOPLE.

WE JUST HAD TO ACCEPT THEM.

BUT NOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO REVIEW IN A FINAL PLAT, UM, SO THAT, UM, WE DON'T JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT SOMEONE ELSE'S DOCUMENTS, UM, FOR US.

SO THAT'S SOMEWHAT GOOD NEWS ON A REALLY BAD BILL.

I ALSO WANNA

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BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO ONE MORE, UM, HB 21, WHICH IS, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH WHAT A HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION IS, BUT, UM, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THESE IS THAT, UM, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN TEXAS, WHICH IS REALLY STRANGE, IS THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE BEEN, UH, BUYING LIKE APARTMENT BUILDINGS, UM, IN OTHER COUNTIES AND THEN APPLYING FOR HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION STATUS AND GRANTS ON THESE THINGS.

AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT REMOVES IT FROM THE TAX ROLL IN THE MUNICIPALITY WHERE IT IS.

SO THINK ABOUT A BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN TAX REVENUE FOR A CITY SUDDENLY BEING YANKED OFF OF THEIR TAX ROLL.

UH, BECAUSE IT'S TURNED INTO SOMEWHAT OF A NONPROFIT TYPE SITUATION.

AND ONE OF, AND THIS HAS HAPPENED, THIS IS HAPPENING NOW IN OUR COUNTY, UH, PECOS COUNTY.

UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THIS YET, BUT PECOS COUNTY BOUGHT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX HERE AND IS ATTEMPTING TO DO THIS IN ROCKWALL COUNTY AND TAKE ONE OF THEM OFF THE TAX RULES HERE, WHICH WILL AFFECT ALL OF YOU BECAUSE WHO'S GONNA PICK UP THE SLACK ON THOSE TAXES? SO THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT MAKE NO SENSE, BUT THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS ALLOWED THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO STOP IT.

AND I THINK, UH, WE'LL BE SUCCESSFUL WITH THE BILL, UM, IN THAT REGARD.

UM, WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER ONES, UM, UH, THAT I'LL LET, UM, COMMISSIONER M**K TALK ABOUT.

'CAUSE WE HAVE JUST AN EXTREMELY LONG LIST.

RIGHT? AND YOU, AND YOU, YOU DID, YOU HIT, YOU HIT ON A COUPLE OF ONES THAT ARE, I THINK JUST VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY ARE ABOUT LOSING CONTROL OR MANAGEMENT FOR THE COUNTIES AND THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE, THE HOU, THE, THE FINANCE, THE HOUSING FINANCE COURT.

THAT IS ONE THAT, THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR OTHER BILLS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THE ONE THAT BOB, UM, COMMISSIONER GALL ALANO WAS TALKING ABOUT.

UM, I'M THERE, THERE'S JUST OTHERS THAT, THAT I WANTED TO JUST KINDA SHARE WITH YOU.

UM, THERE'S SENATE BILL 1173 THAT IS, UM, CHAIR, UM, WRITTEN BY CHARLES PERRY.

UM, AND IT, AND IT, IT SUPPORTS ONE THAT FROM REPRESENTATIVE DAVID SPILLER, WHICH IS RELATING TO THE AMOUNT OF EXPENDITURE MADE BY CERTAIN POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS, UM, FOR WHICH A COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT METHOD MAY BE BE, MAY BE REQUIRED.

AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A PROCUREMENT THRESHOLD OF 50,000 FOR OUR, FOR THE COUNTY.

AND THIS IS WANTING TO GO TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND, WHICH WOULD BE ACROSS MULTIPLE, UM, STATUTES THAT AFFECT SCHOOL DISTRICTS, MUNICIPALITIES, OBVIOUSLY COUNTIES, EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICTS, AND OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS.

SO I SEE THAT AS SOME OP YOU KNOW, SOME THAT THERE'S, I'M A, I'M OPPOSED TO THAT PERSONALLY.

SO, UM, IN ADDITION, UM, HOUSE BILL 10 91, UM, BY, UM, DENNIS PAUL IS RELATING TO THE PRACTICES AND THE PROCEDURES FOR EARLY VOTING, UM, BALLOT AND VOTING BY MAIL.

AND THERE IS A NUMBER, AND I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR COME UP IN A FEW MINUTES, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL BILLS THAT, UM, ARE IN REGARDS TO OUR, OUR VOTING, UM, AND OUR ELECTIONS THAT, UM, COULD HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS FOR THE COUNTIES AND OUR CITIZENS.

SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT ONE WITH YOU.

UM, SEE, AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUBDIVISIONS.

THERE'S HOUSE BILL 38 92 THAT'S CHAIRED, ARE AUTHORED BY, UM, CECIL BELL THAT IS RELATING TO COUNTY REGULATION THAT'S RELATED TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING FOR SUBDIVISIONS AND COUNTY AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE BUILDING AND SETBACK LINES.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT WILL, UM, IMPACT, UM, THE CONTROL AND THE MANAGEMENT THAT THE COUNTY CAN HAVE IN THAT.

UM, HOUSE BILL 36 87, UM, BY HARLESS IS RELATING TO THE CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS OF A FIRE MARSHAL AND ANY RELATED EMPLOYEE OFFICER, INSPECTOR OR INVESTIGATOR THAT'S APPOINTED BY CERTAIN COUNTIES AND EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICTS.

UM, THE, AS AS WE KNOW THIS COUNTY, WE, WE WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT SOME POINT WE WILL NEED A FIRE MARSHAL.

AND THIS IS A BILL THAT COULD, UM, UM, HAVE SOME NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON WHAT OUR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES WITH THE COUNTY AND THAT POSITION WOULD BE.

AND HOUSE BILL 45 82, THIS WILL BE MY LAST ONE.

AND THIS IS AUTHORED BY SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, UM, REPRESENTATIVES.

UM, BELL BEING ONE, KEITH BELL BEING ONE, BUT THERE'S ABOUT, UM, FOUR OR FIVE OTHERS.

BUT IT'S RELATING TO THE REIMBURSEMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE COST THAT ARE INCURRED BY DEVELOPER OR CERTAIN HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS BY CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES.

SO THAT'S SAYING THAT, UM, SOME OF THE COST THAT, UM, DEVELOPERS MAY HAVE, IF THIS ONE IS PASSED, THIS COULD BE A COST THAT COULD BE PASSED DOWN TO OUR CITIZENS AS WELL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS POINT, JUDGE.

I'LL SAY COMMISSIONER KY.

SORRY, GO AHEAD.

ONE THING I FORGOT TO SAY.

OUR COURT 503RD DISTRICT COURT IS STILL ON TRACK.

OH, YES.

UM, IT IS, UH, THERE WAS A COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE ON THAT BILL THAT TOOK ME LIKE A WEEK TO FIND IT.

IT WOULD.

AND SO I WAS, YOU

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KNOW, A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS FOR ABOUT A WEEK, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SENATOR HALL'S OFFICE HELPED ME TRACK DOWN, UH, THE COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FINALLY.

AND WE ARE, UH, GOOD ON THE COURT STILL.

COMMISSIONER, NO LABOR REFORM.

AND EVERY MUD LEGISLATION REFORM BILL IS DEAD, BY THE WAY.

SO WE HAVE NO HOPE OF ANY OF THE DEATH.

IT'S TIME, TIME OF DEATH OFFICIAL NOW.

GOT IT.

EVERYONE'S STILL IN ATTENDANCE.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR EXTENSIVE EFFORTS ON TRACKING THIS STUFF.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WE DO THAT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL DOING IT.

UM, EVERY NOW AND THEN, THERE'S A BILL WHERE, UM, JOHN, THE, THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND I WANT TO BE SURE TO GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR THAT.

UM, I SAW AN ARTICLE, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IT IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS THIS SUNDAY ABOUT THE EL MILAGRO GRO RANCH.

SORRY IF, UH, I BUTCHERED THAT, WHERE SOMEONE FOUGHT A SUCCESSFULLY FOUGHT AGAINST TXDOT OVER A ROAD BEING BUILT THROUGH THEIR RANCH IN A RURAL PART OF THE COUNTY.

THAT MAY RING, MAKE SOME OF YOU THINK ABOUT SOMETHING .

UM, BUT IN IT, IT REFERENCED SENATE BILL 25 13.

AND I BRING THIS UP, NOT BECAUSE IT'S A BIG DEAL, REALLY, BUT IT'S A, IT'S AT LEAST A BABY STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND, UH, WANNA THANK THOSE THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF IT AND, AND THINK WE AS A COURT SHOULD BE IN FAVOR.

IT'S A BILL THAT ESSENTIALLY REQUIRES IF THE STATE IS GOING TO EXERCISE, UH, CONDEMNATION AUTHORITY, EMINENT DOMAIN, AND THEY DON'T GET A RESPONSE, THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO TRY AND TRACK DOWN THE OWNER AND FIND 'EM AND LET 'EM KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, UH, SO THEY CAN ACT PROMPTLY ON IT.

AGAIN, I VIEW IT AS A BABY STEP, BUT IT'S IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND, UM, WHEN OUR LEGISLATURE IS LOOKING OUT FOR THE CITIZENS AND TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR BEHALF, I SAY THANK YOU.

AND, OH, ONE MORE THING.

THANK YOU TO MY CONSTITUENT KATHY MARCHETTI, WHO IS KIND ENOUGH TO TEXT ME ON SUNDAY AND TELL ME ABOUT THIS ARTICLE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STACEY, I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD AT THIS TIME.

HEY, DENNIS LONDON, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP AND GIVING US, I KNOW DENNIS SPENDS A LOT OF TIME IN AUSTIN.

HE'S PART OF A GROUP THAT IS COMMISSIONER GOANA AND MYSELF AND CITIZENS WITH ELECTEDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHO I'M GOING TO, UH, TOTAL UP AT THE END OF THIS SESSION, THE AMOUNT OF HOURS WE'VE SPENT, AND IT'S GONNA BE A SCARY NUMBER.

UM, BUT, UH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GIVING US A UPDATE.

THANK YOU ALL.

UM, YES, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DISCUSSING THESE BILLS.

UH, I WAS TRACKING OVER 104 PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT WERE AIMED IN ONE FORM OR FASHION AT, UM, LOCAL CONTROLS, LOCAL GOVERNANCE, WHETHER IT WAS COUNTY, CITY, OR ANY POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OR LOCAL MUNICIPALITY.

UM, THERE ARE STILL WELL OVER A DOZEN AND A HALF TO TWO DOZEN THAT ARE VIABLE, UM, AND HAVE A CHANCE AND OPPORTUNITY OF GETTING THROUGH THIS SESSION.

UH, THERE IS ONE BILL THAT STILL HAS A LITTLE BIT TO DO WITH MUDS, AND THAT WAS A BETTENCOURT BILL AND PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING BY SENATOR BETTENCOURT WE CAN CONSIDER TO BE ANTI LOCAL CONTROL, ANTI LOCAL GOVERNANCE.

UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, ONE OF THE COUNTERS TO ONE OF THOSE BILLS ON MUDS WAS OUR OWN SENATOR, SENATOR HALL.

UM, AND I'M, I'M REACHING OUT TO HIS OFFICE SOON TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, CAN YOU JUST DROP THIS? UM, THERE ARE PIECES THAT ARE TRYING TO PUT CERTAIN AUTHORITY AND THEY'RE SAYING, WE'RE GONNA BRACKET IT RIGHT? AND WE KEEP HEARING THIS BRACKETING.

WE'RE GONNA BRACKET IT OUT, WE'RE GONNA BRACKET YOU OUT, WE'RE GONNA BRACKET THEM IN.

AND THE BRACKETING ASPECT, IF ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE BRACKETING IS, UM, IS WHEN THEY SAY, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT FOR COUNTIES OVER 200,000 OR 900,000, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MILLION PEOPLE IN YOU.

OR IF YOU DON'T HAVE X NUMBER OF PEOPLE, THIS ISN'T GOING TO.

SO WHEN WE WANNA BRACKET THIS OUT, THIS IS GREAT, YOU CAN BRACKET IT OUT, BUT THE NEXT SESSION, ONE SWIPE OF A PEN CAN ERASE THE BRACKET.

SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE ASK FOR THESE BRACKETS OR THESE PARTICULAR AMENDMENTS.

'CAUSE AMENDMENTS ARE JUST THAT.

IT'S A PIECE THAT WAS ADDED IN BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR DIDN'T THINK OF IT.

BUT NOW AFTER THE FACT, THEY'RE GONNA GO, OH, WAIT A MINUTE.

HOLD ON.

WE CAN JUST REMOVE THAT DURING THE NEXT SESSION.

SO IT'LL BE AN ONGOING BATTLE SESSION AFTER SESSION.

UH, WE HAD A TON OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT BILLS LAST SESSION, AND THERE WAS ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT WAS AIMED, UH, IN, I WON'T WANNA SAY AIMED AT ROCKWELL, BUT THERE WAS A BIG CONTENTIOUS PIECE OVER IN HEATH, UM, AS WELL AS OVER IN ROYCE CITY AND FATE.

WELL, NOW WE HAD PROBABLY ABOUT WHAT, TWO DOZEN BILLS ALL DEALING WITH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

AND THEY'RE NOT BRACKETING OUT ANYBODY.

THEY'RE WANTING TO BLANKET THIS ACROSS, SAYING IT'S ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, ABOUT AVAILABILITY, ABOUT

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A HOUSING SHORTAGE.

IT'S NOT A HOUSING SHORTAGE, IT'S NOT AVAILABILITY AND IT'S NOT AFFORDABILITY.

UM, 'CAUSE THE COSTS OF THESE, IF WE'VE WATCHED ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN OTHER STATES, IF WE'VE WATCHED WHAT'S EVEN HAPPENED IN SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES, THEY PUT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN.

AND WHAT HAPPENS, THE COST OF ALL THE RENTAL UNITS GOES UP, THE COST OF ALL THE LEASES GOES UP.

'CAUSE NOW THEY HAVE MORE INVENTORY TO PLAY WITH.

THEY SAY THAT IT'S, UH, AN AVAILABILITY PERSPECTIVE.

IT'S NOT AVAILABILITY.

UH, WE HAVE PLENTY OF HOUSING RIGHT NOW.

THERE ARE HOMES THAT ARE SITTING ON THE MARKET THAT ARE IN THE 180 TO 220,000 THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING ON THE MARKET FOR WELL OVER A YEAR.

AND THIS IS THROUGHOUT ALL OF TEXAS, NOT JUST IN CERTAIN AREAS.

SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, A A A LOT OF WHAT WE HEAR, ESPECIALLY FROM THE REAL ESTATE ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO WRITE THE BIG CHECKS TO THE, TO OUR LEGISLATORS.

IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE'RE HEARING.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK PAST THE SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

WE HAVE TO RISE ABOVE IT, HOLD THE CONVERSATIONS, AND ALSO CALL OUR OFFICIALS AND ASK THEM, WHY ARE YOU PUSHING THIS? WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS? UM, THOSE, THOSE BILLS THAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING, AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JUDGE KNEW YOU AND I HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER GUANA, WE'VE BEEN THERE.

WE'VE, I'VE TALKED WITH ALL OF YOU AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER ABOUT THESE.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE UNDER ATTACK IS REALLY THE ONLY WAY TO PUT IT.

UM, THE LOCAL CONTROLS, AND, AND THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, DURING ONE OF MY PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WHERE WE HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS ALL WAS A PRECEDENT STARTED BACK IN 19 26, 19 27 FROM THE SUPREME COURT CASE.

AND THERE WAS A GUY DOWN THERE WANTED TO ARGUE WITH ME SAYING, OH, HERE WE ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT EUCLID AGAIN.

I'M LIKE, YEAH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT EUCLID.

WELL, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SUPREME COURT CASE AND PRECEDENTS THAT WAS SET.

I'LL ABSOLUTELY DO IT.

BUT HE, HE WAS JUST LIKE, OH, WELL, IT DOESN'T APPLY TODAY.

I THINK IT APPLIES MORE TODAY THAN IT EVER HAS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WATCH WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE CRIME RATES WITH, AND THIS COULD EVEN GO BACK TO THE BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, RIGHT? WE, WE CAN'T IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MORAL PRINCIPLES, WE WOULDN'T NEED LAWS OR IF WE HAD THE MORAL PRINCIPLE, WE WOULDN'T NEED LAWS IF, IF WE WERE A JUST AND RIGHT PEOPLE.

BUT WE ARE ALL A, A FAILED PEOPLE.

BUT WE'RE TRYING.

AND SO AS WE CONTINUE TO TRY, AS ALL OF OUR LEGISLATURES ARE CONTINUING TO TRY, ALL WE CAN DO IS HOPE AND PRAY THAT THE RIGHT THING IS GONNA BE DONE.

AND, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE, THE 10 COMMANDMENTS OUT.

'CAUSE THIS ISN'T A LEFT OR RIGHT ISSUE.

IT'S NOT A LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE, IT'S NOT, THIS IS JUST A, A, A MORAL PEOPLE ISSUE.

IT'S RIGHT AND WRONG.

SO I STAND FOR THAT, BUT ALSO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THE BILLS AND, AND THE LEGISLATURE.

UM, I HATE TO SAY THAT THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA GO DOWN AS A SESSION KNOWN AS THE SESSION OF DECEPTION.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE GOOD STUFF THAT WAS PASSED, A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT ARE ON THE WAY TO BEING PASSED, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T WANT OR WE DIDN'T WANT THAT ARE PASSING.

AND WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING BACK AT THIS, GOING, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? SO HOPEFULLY, UM, NONE, I DON'T WANNA SAY ALL IS LOST, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, RECOVER WHAT WE HAVE GOING THERE NOW.

WE DON'T LOSE OUR LOCAL CONTROL.

WE KEEP OUR, OUR CAPABILITIES WITHIN OUR POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS AND LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, AND WHATEVER I CAN DO TO HELP, YOU KNOW, I'M HERE.

SO I APPRECIATE THE TIME.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.

THANK YOU, DENNIS.

APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

TO GO TO AGENDA ITEM 22, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO TO 14 AFTER 22.

SO WE'RE GONNA JUMP AROUND HERE KINDA LIKE, UH, A GRASSHOPPER, LIKE I SAY, WE'RE GOING

[22. Discuss/Act on canvassing the election returns for the Mobile City, Texas, Special Election held on May 3, 2025, for the election of Mayor and City Commissioner, Place 1, and adopt a resolution certifying the election results and authorizing the issuance of certificates of election to the elected candidates, and all related issues; (Judge New- Election Administrator)]

SO AGENDA ITEM 22, DISCUSS AND ACT ON CANVASSING THE ELECTION RETURNS FOR MOBILE CITY, TEXAS SPECIAL ELECTION HELD ON MAY 3RD, 2025 FOR THE ELECTION OF MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSIONERS.

PLACE ONE AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION CERTIFYING THE ELECTION RESULTS AND AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATES OF ELECTION TO THE ELECTED CANDIDATES AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

MR. LYNCH, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

UH, I SKIPPED MASS ON SUNDAY, BUT I FEEL LIKE I GOT ENOUGH HERE THIS MORNING.

SO FEELING PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THAT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CANVASSING OF THE ELECTION RETURNS FOR CITY TEXAS SPECIAL ELECTION HELD ON MAY 3RD, 2025 FOR THE ELECTION OF MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSIONER, PLACE ONE AND ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, CERTIFYING THE ELECTION RESULTS AND AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATES OF ELECTION TO THE ELECTED CANDIDATES.

UM, HEY, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO HERE, SIR, UH, IS JUST THE, THE MECHANICAL PART, UH, OF CANVASSING THE ELECTION FOR THE CITY OF MOBILE CITY.

UM, AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT, UH, INSTALLATION OF THOSE TWO OFFICERS THAT WERE ELECTED, UH, LAST SATURDAY.

UM, I, YOU'VE GOT THE DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF YOU, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT, UM, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU'RE GONNA COORDINATE OR THEY'RE GONNA COORDINATE WITH YOU DIRECTLY FOR THE SWEARING IN OR WHATEVER THE, THAT, THAT PIECE OF IT.

SO, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT THAT OR ANY OF THE OTHER ELECTIONS THAT WE PRESIDED OVER ON MAY 3RD, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.

I, I, IF NOT, THEN, UH, THIS REQUIRES A MOTION, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THIS REQUIRES A ROLL CALL VOTE.

ISN'T THIS JUST STANDARD VOTE? UH, YES, SIR.

JUST AN ORAL RESOLUTION IS SUFFICIENT.

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GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.

I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THANK YOU, MR. AND JUST A COUPLE OF, UH, KIND OF A CAVEAT.

UH, THERE WAS, UH, AS A RESULT OF MAY 3RD, THERE'S A RUNOFF IN THE CITY OF ROULETTE.

UM, WHAT WE HAVE, UH, AGREED TO DO, UH, WITH DALLAS COUNTY IS WE ARE GONNA EXPORT THOSE VOTERS INTO DALLAS COUNTY SO THAT THEY WILL ESSENTIALLY RUN THEIR ELECTION FOR THEM.

UH, WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME FOR, UH, HUNT COLIN AND KAUFMAN.

SO THIS ISN'T ANYTHING IRREGULAR AND, UM, WHAT COMMISSIONER M**K ALLUDED TO AS FAR AS THE, WHAT'S HAPPENING DOWN IN AUSTIN, UM, SEVERAL BILLS, UH, ODD NUMBERED YEARS MOVING THE MAY ELECTION TO NOVEMBER.

UM, LOTS OF LOTS OF DIFFERENT BILLS DOWN THERE WITH FAR REACHING IMPACTS AND SECOND AND THIRD ORDER EFFECTS.

BUT THE MOST DANGEROUS ONE, UM, IS, IS THE ELIMINATION OF COUNTYWIDE, UH, POLLING, UH, THE AUTHOR OF THAT BILL HAS, YOU KNOW, SAID THAT IT WOULDN'T COST COUNTIES ANY ADDITIONAL MONIES TO, TO MIGRATE TO THAT SORT OF IDEA.

UH, AND THAT, THAT'S JUST FLAT OUT DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE, I, WE HAVE 13 LOCATIONS OPEN ON ELECTION DAY.

IF THAT WERE TO PASS, WE'D HAVE TO FIND AN ADDITIONAL 13 FOR, UM, ELECTION DAY.

SO WHEN YOU SAY IT'S NOT GONNA BE AT ANY COST TO THE COUNTY, IT'S JUST, IT'S DISINGENUOUS.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD FOR, FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE LISTENING AND IN THE AUDIENCE THAT IS OUR, UM, OUR, OUR REPRESENTATIVE SENATOR HALL THAT IS THE AUTHOR OF THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. CONGRATULATIONS.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE IN THIS ROOM AND LISTENING TO PLEASE GIVE HIS OFFICE A CALL.

I KNOW HIS, HIS LOCAL DISTRICT DIRECTOR HAS WALKED OUT, BUT PLEASE, LET'S LET HIM KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT HERE IN ROCKWALL.

YEAH, IT'S SB 76, AND, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF THAT BY, BY, BY SOME DIFFERENT FOLKS.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST, THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE THE, THE MOST FAR WRENCHING IMPACTS FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY AND, AND EVERY OTHER COUNTY THAT USES IT, WHICH IS ABOUT HALF THE STATE THAT, THAT EMPLOYS THAT SYSTEM OF VOTING.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

NOTE, UH, SHOW YOU HOW OLD I AM.

THANK

[14. Discuss/Act on (1) Approval of Acceptance of Donations for the Construction of a Ten Commandments Monument, and/or the Approval of Acceptance of Donation of a Ten Commandments Monument, (2) Approval of Acceptance of Donations of Funds and Labor for Monument Implementation Expenses, and (3) the Arrangement for and Placement on the Grounds of the Rockwall County Historic Courthouse of a Monument commemorating the Ten Commandments, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)]

YOU EVERYONE.

IT IS 10 29.

WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, WHICH IS, AND ACT ON NUMBER ONE, APPROVAL OF ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 10 COMMANDMENTS MONUMENT AND OR THE APPROVAL OF ACCEPTANCE OF DONATION OF A 10 COMMANDMENTS MONUMENT.

NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS OF FUNDS AND LABOR FOR MONUMENT IMPLEMENTATION EXPENSES.

AND NUMBER THREE, THE ARRANGEMENT FOR AND PLACEMENT ON THE GROUNDS OF THE ROCKWELL COUNTY HISTORIC COURTHOUSE OF A MONUMENT COMMEMORATING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IN ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

UM, TODAY I AM PROUD TO BRING BEFORE THIS COURT A PROPOSAL FOR PLACING A MONUMENT STATING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ON THE GROUNDS OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

I THINK IT'S PARTICULARLY APPROPRIATE TO PUT A MONUMENT SHOWING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ON THE GROUNDS OF THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, BECAUSE THE COURTHOUSE IS A PLACE OF HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE IN OUR COUNTY.

FURTHER, THE GROUNDS OF THE HISTORICAL AND COURTHOUSE INCLUDE THE DISCOVERY STATUTE, WHICH REFLECTS WHAT IS LIKELY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL EVENT IN ROCKWALL COUNTY'S HISTORY.

IT IS ALSO NOR NOTEWORTHY THAT THE COURTHOUSE GROUNDS INCLUDE BENCHES HONORING PERSONS WHO PLAYED IMPORTANT ROLES IN OUR COUNTY'S PAST.

I WAS, SO, IM MOVED BY EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT THIS MORNING.

UM, IT SHOWED SUCH STRONG COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR SUCH A POSITIVE MOVE.

WE, AS COMMISSIONERS, GET USED TO PEOPLE COMING AND SPEAKING IN A NEGATIVE VEIN OFTEN, BUT IT WAS SO ENCOURAGING TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLES TALKING POSITIVELY AND WITH A UNIFIED VOICE ABOUT WHO WE ARE AS A COUNTY.

GOING BACK, COMMISSIONER M**K, TO YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE, WE HAVE A STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY, AND IT WAS SO GOOD TO SEE THAT TODAY.

UM, I ALSO THINK IT, UH, COMMISSIONER GOANA THAT IT WAS VERY SIGNIFICANT THAT WE'RE GONNA ACT ON THIS THE SAME DAY THAT WE PASSED THE JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH RECOGNITION, WHICH YOU BROUGHT FORWARD.

AND I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT, BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ORIGINATED AS A JEWISH, UH, COMMANDMENTS, JEWISH LAWS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST ON A PERSONAL

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I REMEMBER IN THE THIRD GRADE, ONE DAY, OUR TEACHER, MRS. LRE, STOOD UP AND SAID, WE'RE NOT GONNA PRAY TODAY BECAUSE THE LAW HAS CHANGED AND WE CAN'T PRAY IN CLASS ANYMORE.

AND THAT WAS, UH, WHEN THE SUPREME COURT DECISION WAS, WAS HANDED DOWN THAT SAID, YOU CAN'T HAVE PRAYER IN SCHOOL FOR SOME REASON, I REMEMBER VERY SPECIFICALLY THAT DATE, WHICH ON A SIDE NOTE IS INTERESTING SINCE I THINK MISSED ABOUT 50 DAYS OF THIRD GRADE.

BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE, .

UM, BUT THAT DATE, IT WAS, I WAS STUCK IN MY MIND BECAUSE I THOUGHT, WOW, WE CAN'T PRAY IN SCHOOL ANYMORE.

AND NOW TODAY WE'RE HAVING A CHANCE TO START SHIFTING THE DIRECTION IN ANOTHER WAY AND IN A POSITIVE WAY.

AND I THINK FROM WHAT YOU HEARD EVERYBODY SPEAK, AND I'M NOT GONNA BEGIN TO TRY AND RELATE ALL THOSE ELOQUENT STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE, BUT, UM, I'M REALLY HONORED AND PROUD TO DO THIS.

I HAVE PREPARED A MOTION.

I CERTAINLY WANNA GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE HERE ON THE COURT TO SPEAK, BUT SOMETHING YOU MAY WANNA LOOK AT, A MOTION I'VE PREPARED.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL SEE IN THERE IS THAT, IF YOU WANNA PASS THOSE DOWN, IS THAT, UM, I'VE, SO I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER WORK WITH ME.

SO, UM, WE HAVE SOME SORT OF CONSENSUS BUILDING AND FINDING THE EXACT LOCATION, THE, THE WAY IT IS GONNA BE FORMED, AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

THIS WAS RECENTLY DONE IN TARRANT COUNTY, UM, AND, UH, IT PASSED THERE BY A THREE TO TWO VOTE.

UM, UH, THE COMMAND OR THE RESOLUTION YOU'LL SEE WAS BASED UPON A STATUTE THAT WAS APPROVED IN ARKANSAS A FEW YEARS AGO TO PUT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ON THEIR CAPITOL GROUNDS.

UH, IT'S THAT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS HAVE BEEN ON THE STATE OF TEXAS CAPITOL GROUNDS.

AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS IDENTIFIED, THERE'S A SUPREME COURT'S CASE THAT SPECIFICALLY APPROVED THAT.

I'VE ASKED OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO LOOK AT IT.

I THINK YOU ALL SAW A MEMO FROM, FROM OUR LEGAL COUNSEL ON THIS POINT.

UM, I LEFT EARLY IN YOUR, EARLIER THIS MORNING, A SUMMARY.

UM, FIRST LIBERTY INSTITUTE, ONE OF THE GREATEST CONSTITUTIONAL LAW FIRMS IN OUR COUNTRY, UM, HAS PROVIDED ME A, UH, A SUMMARY OF CASES DEALING WITH THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.

I'VE GIVEN YOU ALL THAT TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF IT.

AND I'VE SENT A, I'VE INCLUDED ON YOUR PACKAGES A MEMO FROM JEFF MATHER, WHO'S A ROCKWELL COUNTY RESIDENT, CITY OF ROCKWELL RESIDENT, A WONDERFUL FRIEND, DEAR FRIEND OF MINE, WONDERFUL PERSON, UM, WHO SAYS, IN THE EVENT THAT ROCKWELL COUNTY ACCEPTS THE DON ACCEPTED THE DONATION OF A 10 COMMANDMENTS MEMORIAL AND PLACED IT ON THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE GROUNDS, FIRST LIBERTY INSTITUTE WOULD AGREE TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY PRO BONO IN ANY LEGAL ACTION BROUGHT TO CHALLENGE THE 10 COMMANDMENTS DISPLAY.

UH, MR. MAIER HAS TOLD ME HE'S VERY CONFIDENT THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE LAW.

AND AS I SPOKE EARLIER, UH, THIS MORNING, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALWAYS FOLLOW THE LAW.

SO, THAT BEING SAID, I'M HONORED TO DO THIS, AND I'LL GIVE EACH OF YOU A CHANCE TO SPEAK, BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN IT'S READY, WHEN YOU WERE READY, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER STACEY, YOU GOT COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? YEAH.

MY ONLY COMMENT, UM, IF THE CHALLENGE, IF WE'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT, WOULD BE FOR YOU AND COMMISSIONER ALANA TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON THIS, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.

UH, COMMISSIONER, I THINK Y'ALL ARE THE TWO APPROPRIATE PEOPLE.

UM, I, I HAVE, UH, NOTHING REALLY TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION OTHER THAN I, THIS RESOLUTION IS JUST STATING OUR INTENTION OF DOING IT.

WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO HAVE FURTHER COURT ACTION TO DO IT AND TO PLACE IT.

I JUST WANT TO, PROCEDURALLY, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING ASKED.

WELL, ACTUALLY, THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, WE DON'T NEED FURTHER COURT ACTION, BUT WHAT IT SAYS, AS YOU'LL HEAR WHEN I READ IT, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AT NO EXPENSE TO THE COUNTY.

IT ALLOWS US TO TAKE THE, UH, UH, ACCEPT FUNDS AND DONATIONS.

IT ALSO SAYS THAT WE WILL TAKE IT BEFORE THE ROCKWALL COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND GET THEIR INPUT ON THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO PUT IT AND HOW TO, HOW TO SET IT UP.

UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM BRINGING IT BACK.

I JUST DIDN'T WRITE THIS, THAT THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.

AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HAVE, UH, ANOTHER, UH, COMMISSIONER ON BOARD TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T GET VEERED TOO OFF, TOO FAR OFF TRACK AND, AND TO KEEP ME IN LINE.

AND ALSO, THE REASON I BROUGHT IT BEFORE THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION IS BECAUSE I KIND OF VIEW THAT AS THEIR ROLE.

BUT, BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER GOANA WOULD BE THE PERFECT PERSON TO ADD TO THIS AND, AND TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD.

WELL, LIKE I SAID, I, I HAVE NOTHING, NOTHING TO ADD, UM, OTHER THAN I WOULD LIKE IF COMMISSIONER GOANA WOULD ACCEPT, AND IF THE COURT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA DO SOME SORT OF FORMAL THING,

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ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER M**K, YOU KNOW, I, I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THIS.

I AM A RELIGIOUS PERSON, AND IT WAS, IT WAS JUST VERY, UM, HEARTWARMING TO ME TO HEAR SO MANY PEOPLE.

AND AS YOU SAID, JUDGE, THIS IS THE MOST, MOST FORMS THAT YOU'VE HAD, THAT PEOPLE HAVE, ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT SOMETHING.

AND I THINK IT JUST SPEAKS A LOT TO THE MORAL COMPASS OF ROCKWELL COUNTY.

AND I AM, I'M PROUD TO BE A LIFELONG ROCKWELL COUNTY RESIDENT.

AND, UM, I'M VERY EXCITED THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS TO US.

COMMISSIONER, UH, LTI, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONER ALANA? YEAH, COMMISSIONER LTI.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS.

THIS IS FANTASTIC.

UM, I FULLY SUPPORT IT.

I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU, UH, TO GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED.

UM, WHAT A GREAT DAY TODAY WAS.

MM-HMM .

UH, WITH ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, UH, COMING FORTH AND, UH, EXPRESSING ONE, THEIR GRATITUDE TO THEIR SUPPORT, UH, FOR IT AND THEIR EXCITEMENT, UH, AND ENTHUSIASM WAS, UH, OVERWHELMING.

AND SO, UH, LET'S GET THIS DONE.

LET'S GET IT DONE.

THE AUDITOR HAS A QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER LAKE, CAN YOU, COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH THE, HOW YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WE WOULD BE TAKING DONATIONS, OR IS IT ANOTHER ENTITY GOING TO ACCEPT THE DONATIONS AND THEN WE'LL ACCEPT THE MONUMENT ITSELF? WELL, THE WAY I'VE SET THIS UP, WE COULD DO IT EITHER WAY.

AND THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE HERITAGE.

I GOT AN EMAIL HERE FROM SOMEWHERE, SOME, IT'S HERITAGE FOUNDATION THAT ACTUALLY WORKED WITH TARRANT COUNTY IN GETTING THEIRS SET UP.

AND ARKANSAS, THE STATE OF ARKANSAS WORKED WITH THEM.

AND THEY, THEY PROMOTE THIS, AND THEY PROMOTE THE PING OF 10 COMMANDMENTS, MONUMENTS, THE WAY I'VE WRITTEN THIS RESOLUTION, UM, IF YOU LOOK ON THE, UH, THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE, DOES, DOES THE AUDITOR HAVE A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION? NO, SIR, I DO NOT.

SORRY, BUT I'M SORRY.

SORRY, NOT SORRY.

I, YEAH, BUT I SHOULD HAVE GIVEN THAT TO YOU.

UM, AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS, UH, THAT THEY AC APPROVE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS DONATION DONATIONS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND OR THE APPROVAL OF ACCEPTANT, OF DONATIONS OF A 10 COMMANDMENTS MONUMENT.

I, SO I'VE, I'VE WRITTEN THIS SO THAT WE COULD DO IT EITHER WAY.

WE COULD ACCEPT DONATIONS DIRECTLY, OR WE COULD HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA MAKE THE DONATION, MAKE 'EM TO THIS 5 0 1 C3 ORGANIZATION I MENTIONED THAT WORKED WITH TARRANT COUNTY, SO THAT, UM, THEN THEY WOULD, AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH HIM AND THE, THE PRESIDENT OF IT AND SAID, IF YOU DO THIS, DO YOU DO IT AS A, UH, UH, AS A COMPLETE DONATION OF A GIFT? SO IT THEN BECOMES COUNTY PROPERTY? AND HE SAID, YES, THEY DO.

BUT THAT WAY, UM, THEY WORK WITH THE TAX EXEMPT STATUS OF THAT ORGANIZATION FOR POTENTIAL DONORS.

SO, THE WAY I'VE WRITTEN THIS, WE COULD DO THAT EITHER WAY.

UM, AND I DIDN'T WANNA TIE US IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF AT THE BEGINNING, BUT I, I EXPECTED EXACTLY THE RESULT WE GOT THIS MORNING, WHICH WAS HUGE SUPPORT.

AND SO I WANTED TO GET SOMETHING DONE THAT WOULD ALLOW US THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO IT.

WHATEVER WE DETERMINE IS THE BEST.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLAN AND I WILL WORK WITH AND BE, WE WILL KEEP THE COURT AND YOU INFORMED OF WHAT DOES THAT WORK? YES, SIR.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO TARRANT COUNTY TO FIND OUT EXACTLY HOW THEY HANDLED AS WELL.

IF I, YEAH.

THAT, THAT'D BE AWESOME.

AND, AND I'VE GOT THE NAME OF THE GUY, UH, THE GUY, I'VE GOT THE NAME OF THE COMMISSIONER WHO PROPOSED THIS IN TARRANT COUNTY, AND BE HAPPY TO GIVE THAT TO HIM.

BUT YOU PROBABLY WANNA TALK TO THEIR AUDITOR AND SPEAK AUDITOR LANGUAGE TO 'EM.

SO, BUT YEAH.

AND LET'S WORK ON IT TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING PROPERLY.

ANYTHING FURTHER? COMMISSIONER GALANA? NO.

MM-HMM .

AND A MORAL COMPASS WHEN WE'RE GUIDING THE CITIZENS.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, UH, JIMMY MCCLIN TALKED, UH, ASKED THE QUESTION KIND OF PARAPHRASED, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE THIS MONUMENT JUST ABOUT IN FRONT OF EVERY GOVERNMENT BUILDING.

AND THEN, UH, HOW DID WE GET AWAY FROM THAT TO WHERE WE, WE'VE TAKEN 'EM DOWN? AND THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS, WE ALLOWED OURSELVES TO GET AWAY FROM IT.

WE WERE DECEIVED, IN MY OPINION, BY BEING TOLD WE COULDN'T DO THIS.

IF YOU GO INTO GOVERNMENT, YOU CANNOT HAVE A RELIGIOUS STANCE, CANNOT HAVE A MORAL SINNER IF YOU'RE IN GOVERNMENT, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE MORALS, AND YOU HAVE TO REPRESENT THEM AS WELL.

THAT'S A DECEPTION.

THAT IS A DECEPTION.

WE, WE CAN, AND I THINK SHALL HAVE A MORAL CENTER

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UH, IF THE CITIZENS DON'T HAVE MORALS, THEN WE SHOULD BE AN EXAMPLE TO THEM OF, OF WHAT THEY SHOULD AND, AND, AND CAN DO.

SO, UH, THE ANSWER TO HIS QUESTION IS, WE, WE ALLOWED OURSELVES TO BE TRICKED, UH, IS WHAT WE DID.

AND, AND I SEE THIS AS UNDOING THAT DECEPTION WHERE WE, WE WILL, UH, PUT, PUT THE COUNTY ON THE PROPER PATH.

SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO SAY I'M FOR THIS, BUT, UH, I AM FOR THIS.

SO, AND JUDGE, NO, I APPRECIATE, UH, WHEN I CAME TO YOU SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND ASKED ABOUT THIS, YOUR ABSOLUTE A HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH, SO YOU'RE WELCOME.

HEREIN, AND TO ARRANGE FOR A SUITABLE TIME FOR THE PLACEMENT OF THE MONUMENT.

ALRIGHT, THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING MOTION, WHEREAS THE 10 COMMANDMENTS FOUND IN THE BIBLE AND THE HEBREW TORAH AT EXODUS 20 VERSES ONE THROUGH 17 IN DEUTERONOMY FIVE, VERSES SIX THROUGH 21, ARE AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THE MORAL AND HISTORICAL FOUNDATION OF THE LAWS IN LEGAL SYSTEM OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND ROCKWALL COUNTY.

WHEREAS THE COURTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND OF VARIOUS STATES HAVE FREQUENTLY CITED THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IN PUBLISHED DECISIONS, WHEREAS NUMEROUS PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND PUBLIC PLACES IN THE UNITED STATES, INCLUDING THE TEXAS STATE CAPITAL GROUNDS DISPLAY THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.

WHEREAS THE 10 COMMANDMENTS REPRESENT A PHILOSOPHY OF GOVERNMENT HELD BY MANY OF THE FOUNDERS OF THIS NATION, AND BY MANY TEXANS, ROCKWALL COUNTY RESIDENTS, AND OTHER AMERICANS.

TODAY THAT GOD HAS ORDAINED CIVIL GOVERNMENTS AND HAS ENDOWED PEOPLE WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, INCLUDING LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.

WHEREAS IN ORDER THAT THEY MAY UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF THE AMERICAN SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT, THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, OF AMERICA, OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND OF ROCKWALL COUNTY, NEED TO IDENTIFY THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, ONE OF MANY SOURCES AS INFLUENCING THE DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT HAS BECOME MODERN LAW.

WHEREAS THE PLACING OF THE MONUMENTS TO THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ON THE GROUNDS OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, WOULD HELP THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND OF ROCKWALL COUNTY TO KNOW THAT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ARE ONE OF THE MORAL AND HISTORICAL FOUNDATIONS OF THE LAW.

AND WHEREAS THE GROUNDS OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY HISTORIC COURTHOUSE CONTAIN AND IN THE FUTURE MAY CONTAIN OTHER MONUMENTS AND ITEMS OF HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT HEREBY APPROVES ONE, THE ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 10 COMMANDMENTS MONUMENT AND OR THE APPROVAL OF THE ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS OF A 10 COMMANDMENTS MONUMENT.

TWO, THE ACCEPTANCE OF DONATIONS OF FUNDS AND LABOR FOR MONUMENT CONSTRUCTION AND IMPLEMENTATION EXPENSES.

THREE, THE ARRANGEMENT FOR AND PLACEMENT ON THE GROUNDS OF THE ROCKWELL COUNTY HISTORIC CO COURTHOUSE OF A MONUMENT COMMEMORATING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE MONUMENT COMMEMORATING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS SHALL CONTAIN THE FOLLOWING TEXT, WHICH WAS DISPLAYED ON THE MONUMENT DECLARED CONSTITUTIONAL BY THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT IN VAN ORDEN V PERRY, 5 45 US 6 77 2005.

I AM THE LORD THY GOD.

THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.

THOU SHALT TAKE THOU SHALT NOT MAKE TO THYSELF ANY GRAVE GRAVEN IMAGES, THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN.

REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY TO KEEP IT HOLY HONOR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER THAT THY DAYS MAY BE LONG UPON THE LAND, WHICH THE LORD THY GOD GIVETH.

THE THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.

THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR.

THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.

THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE NOR HIS MAN SERVANT, NOR HIS MAID SERVANT, NOR HIS CATTLE, NOR ANYTHING THAT IS THY NEIGHBORS FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DESIGNATES COMMISSIONER'S LAUREN LICHTY AND BOBBY GOANA, THE COURT DELEGATES TO ARRANGE FOR THE MONUMENT AND RELATED ACCOUTREMENTS TO BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED AND PLACED ON THE GROUNDS OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY HISTORIC COURTHOUSE BY PRIVATE PERSONS OR ENTITIES AT NO EXPENSE TO ROCKWALL COUNTY.

FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE COURT DELEGATES SHALL APPROVE THE DESIGN AND SITE SELECTION FOR THE MONUMENT DESCRIBED

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FURTHER RESOLVED THAT BEFORE APPROVING THE DESIGN AND SITE SELECTION FOR THE MONUMENT DESCRIBED HEREIN, THE COURT DELEGATES SHALL CONSULT WITH THE ROCKWALL COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND OBTAIN THE COMMISSION'S VIEWS ON DESIGN AND SITE SELECTION.

FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE PLACEMENT OF THE MONUMENT UNDER THIS RESOLUTION SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED TO MEAN THAT ROCKWALL COUNTY OR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ROCKWALL COUNTY FAVORS, ENDORSES, OR ESTABLISHES ANY RELIGION.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTI.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ROCKWALL COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS LISTED IN THIS AGENDA.

GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GUANA.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER LICHTY, COMMISSIONER GOANA FOR BEING WILLING TO ASSIST, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS BRINGS US ALL THE WAY UP TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, .

YEAH, WE'RE MOVE.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG, UH, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE COURTHOUSE COURTROOM EDITIONS.

THIRD FLOOR PROJECT.

YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, NO, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THIS POINT.

UH, I, I APOLOGIZE.

SYKE SAL, UH, I, SORRY, SAL, Y'ALL SORRY.

[28. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

ITEM IN THE ORDER DEEMED APPROPRIATE AS AUTHORIZED BY CHAPTER 5 5 1 OPEN MEETING SUBCHAPTER D TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF ITS ATTORNEY.

WE WILL, UH, BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSING REAL ESTATE LEASE AND ATTORNEY ENGAGEMENT LETTER.

AND AT 10 48, WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'LL FIX

[29. RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION]

THAT.

AT 1120, WE ARE GOING TO RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION.

PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 5 5 1, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.001.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION TO TAKE ANY ACTION NECESSARY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, NO ACTION

[3. Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)]

TAKEN.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE COURTHOUSE, COURTROOM ADDITIONS THIRD FLOOR PROJECT IN ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER GUANA SAL, IT'S FINALLY YOUR TIME TO SHINE, MAN.

FINALLY, FINALLY, .

UM, SO NOT A WHOLE LOT OF UPDATES.

UM, WE HAVE TWO, UH, PCOS ON THE AGENDA RIGHT AFTER THIS.

UH, THE ONLY TWO ITEMS OF NOTE, UM, IS THAT THE TREASURER'S CORRIDOR CHANGE TO, UH, NOT IMPACT HIS SPACE, UH, HAS BEEN PRICED AND IT'S BEEN FOUND NEGLIGIBLE BY THE CONTRACT.

SO THERE WILL BE NO CHANGE ORDER, UM, UH, CREDIT OR ADDITION TO THAT AS WELL.

SO, UM, NO COST CHANGE.

UH, THE SECOND PART IS THAT THE ELEVATOR SAVINGS, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA REALIZE THAT TILL A LITTLE BIT LATER FULLY ON WHEN THE ELEVATOR INSTALLER COMES TO DO THE PROGRAMMING.

UH, SO THEY'RE GONNA BREAK THAT OUT INTO TWO PCOS.

ONE FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PART OF IT, ONE FOR THE ELEVATOR PORTION OF IT, UM, BUT THAT, THOSE ARE TO, TO COME.

UH, SO WE'LL GET SOME OF THAT MONEY BACK INTO CONTINGENCY PRETTY SOON.

THE REST OF IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LATER DOWN THE ROAD.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAL? DON'T THINK SO.

IT'S GOOD NEWS ON THE TREASURER.

IT'LL MAKE HIM HAPPY.

THAT THERE'S NO, NO COST IMPLICATIONS AND, UH, NO SERVICE INTERRUPTIONS FOR THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.

THANKS SAL.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

[4. Discuss/Act on approving Proposed Change Order No. 001 for a deductive alternate for a millwork change for a credit of $166,200.00 for the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)]

THIS BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 0 0 1 FOR A DEDUCTIVE ALTERNATE FOR A MILLWORK CHANGE FOR A CREDIT OF $166,200 FOR THE COURTHOUSE COURTROOM EDITION'S.

THIRD FLOOR PROJECT, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER GUANA.

THAT'S PERFECT.

SO THIS IS A DEDUCTIVE ALTERNATE FROM BIDDING.

UH, WE REALIZE THE FULL SAVINGS FOR THE ALTERNATE, THIS IS BASICALLY TO SIMPLIFY THE MILLWORK.

UM, SO THIS PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER IS JUST BRINGING THAT, UH, OUT OF THE, UM, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD OUT OF THE ACTUAL PROJECT COST AND INTO A PROJECT CONTINGENCY.

UM, SO THIS WILL BE HELD AS AN OWNER'S CONTINGENCY THROUGHOUT, UM, WHICH WILL KIND OF HELP WITH THE SECOND PCO THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT.

M**K, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

DOES THIS REQUIRE ACTION? I DO BELIEVE IT DOES.

I WILL, WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY'S SO INCLINED.

UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVED PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE FOR THE DEDUCTIVE ALTERNATE FOR A MILLWORK CHANGE FOR A CREDIT OF $166,200 FOR THE COURTHOUSE COURTROOM ADDITIONS TO THE THIRD FLOOR INFILL PROJECT.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY.

I'LL SECOND IT.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER

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THANK YOU EVERYONE.

THIS BRINGS

[5. Discuss/Act on approving Proposed Change Order No. 002 for increasing existing fire suppression lines to be paid from Owner's Contingency in the amount of $32,474.85 for the Courthouse Courtroom 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)]

US TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 0 0 2 FOR INCREASED EXISTING FIRE SUPPRESSION LINES TO BE PAID FROM OWNER'S CONTINGENCY IN THE AMOUNT OF $32,474 AND 85 CENTS FOR THE COURTHOUSE, COURTROOM, THIRD FLOOR PROJECT, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER GOANA.

SO NOW WE'RE GONNA SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF THAT MONEY WE JUST SAVED, SO, EXACTLY.

THIS BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM SIX, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONIES AND THE PLANNED COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

SO THIS IS A, UH, THE FIRE SUPPRESSION WAS KIND OF STUBBED INTO THIS AREA.

UH, THERE WERE SOME SMALL LINES THAT WERE RAN, UH, JUST FOR THE MINIMUM PURPOSE THAT WERE NEEDED.

UH, BUT NOW THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY INFILLING THIS SPACE, UH, THE, THEY DID A, A PRESSURE TEST IN THE CALCULATION AND FOUND THAT THE, THE SIZE WAS TOO SMALL.

UM, SO THAT SIZE NEEDS TO BE UP IN ORDER TO SERVICE, UH, THE, THE NEW COURTROOM FILL IN.

AND SO THIS WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF THE OWNER'S CONTINGENCY, WHICH IS THAT 166,000 THAT WE JUST GOT A CREDIT BACK FOR.

AND THIS WILL BE TAKEN OUTTA THAT CONTINGENCY.

UM, SO THE OVERALL NO MONEY CHANGE.

UH, WE'RE JUST PULLING OUTTA THE CONTINGENCY ON THIS ONE.

GOT IT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I, I WILL JUST SAY THAT BY MY COUNT, WE STILL HAVE 130 3007 $25 AND 15 CENTS GOING INTO OUR CONTINGENCY.

SO IT'S NOT A BAD DAY FOR THE THIRD FLOOR.

UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO FOR INCREASED, UH, EXISTING FIRE SUPPRESSION, LINES TO BE PAID OUT OF OWNER'S CONTINGENCY.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GANA.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THANK YOU, SAL.

[6. Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the American Rescue Plan monies and the planned County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

COMMISSIONER STACY, AND WE HAVE THE PATIENT NICO HERE.

, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, NICO.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

JUST GET THIS PULLED UP REAL QUICK.

I, THE ROCKWALL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT IS PROGRESSING AS EXPECTED.

UM, IN TERMS OF OUR UPDATE, THERE ARE NO SAFETY INCIDENTS TO REPORT ON.

UH, SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

UH, HILL AND WILKINSON IS CONTINUING TO ENFORCE THE SAFETY PLAN ON SITE.

UH, WE ARE ON SCHEDULE AND WE ARE ON BUDGET.

UH, PROCUREMENT IS MOSTLY COMPLETE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FURNITURE.

UH, WE'LL BE GETTING SOME CONCRETE DATES ON THE ARRIVAL OF, OF FURNITURE PACKAGES TOMORROW.

AND IN TERMS OF QUALITY ASSURANCE, QUALITY CONTROL, THERE'S REALLY, UH, NO UPDATE.

THERE'S NO NEW ITEMS ON THE NON-CONFORMANCE LOG.

UH, AND WE'RE JUST ACTIVELY TRACKING THOSE OPEN ITEMS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THEY FIND A RESOLUTION.

UH, THE PAST FEW WEEKS, THE MOST NOTABLE ACTIVITIES THAT WERE COMPLETED, UM, THE METAL STANDING SEAM PANELS ON THE CLEAR STORY, UH, WERE COMPLETED, UH, DRYWALL, TWO-SIDED TAPE AND BED AND PAINTING.

UM, JUST WALL FINISHES IN GENERAL IS MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS RIGHT NOW.

UH, WE RECENTLY JUST, UH, POURED THE SECOND PHASE OF THE CONCRETE, UM, COLOR MATCHED CONCRETE AT THE COURTHOUSE ENTRANCE.

UH, WE ARE DOING THE RTU SETUP SET UP STARTUP TESTING RIGHT NOW.

UM, THAT'S MOSTLY COMPLETE.

UH, IN TERMS OF THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, UH, WORKING ON LIGHTING, TRIM OUT, UH, NOTABLY FORMING AND REINFORCING THE SIDEWALKS, UM, AND POURING THEM NEXT WEEK IS THE GOAL.

UM, LANDSCAPING BEDS WILL START SOON.

UH, RESILIENT FLOORING, UH, THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING SOME OF THE SEALED CONCRETE INSIDE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.

UM, AND YEAH, THINGS ARE, ARE GOING VERY WELL.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO REPORT ON.

I'LL SHOW YOU GUYS SOME, SOME PHOTOS OF KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST PHOTOS, UH, SHOWING SOME OF THE ADHERED STONE GOING ON THE COLUMNS.

UM, THERE'S THE GENERATOR IN PLACE, THE STOREFRONT AND HARDWARE.

WE WERE WAITING ON THAT FOR A LITTLE WHILE THAT'S FINALLY ARRIVED AND GETTING INSTALLED, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS.

AS I MENTIONED.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE STANDING SEAM PANELS, UM,

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ON THE CLEAR STORY SOFFITS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED, THE WRAPS ALL THE WAY AROUND.

UM, SO THE DIRT AREAS, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE SIDEWALKS THAT HAVE YET TO BE POURED, AS WELL AS SOME LANDSCAPING BEDS.

SO Y'ALL WILL SEE THAT HOPEFULLY ON OUR NEXT UPDATE.

UM, SOME QUICK PICTURES OF, YOU KNOW, WALL FINISHES, MILLWORK, UM, UM, AND YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE APPROXIMATELY 80 TO 85% COMPLETE WITH CONSTRUCTION.

SO IT'S, UH, IT'S LOOKING GOOD ON SITE.

ANY ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, YEAH.

FIRST OFF, ON THE LANDSCAPING, UM, WHAT TYPE OF, AND YOU MAY HAVE, MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE DESIGN AND I JUST DIDN'T, DON'T RECALL IT, BUT WHAT KIND OF, UM, LANDSCAPING ARE WE DOING IN THAT AREA? IS IT ZEROSCAPE? I MEAN, WATERING, I'M THINKING OF THAT TYPE OF, UH, IT'S A DECOMPOSED, GRANITE DECOMPOSED, THE WHOLE THING.

UM, THERE IS, I'D ASSUME THERE'S SOME BUSHES AND SOME LANDSCAPING.

I DON'T KNOW, KINDA LIKE MATCHING A LITTLE BIT WHAT WE HAVE IN BETWEEN THAT WALKWAY.

WE HAVE A WHOLE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT OUR, UH, AG AGENT LOVE.

IT HAS COME UP, UH, FOR.

AND WE, WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME, UH, GOOD OF NOT ONLY LOOKING AT PLANTS AND IF THEY'RE VIABLE, UH, LINE OF SIGHT OUT THE BUILDING AND, AND MAKING SURE WE, WE, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR, RESTRICT ANY SIDE.

GOOD.

SO, KNOW WE WE'RE ALL RIGHT.

MY EXPECTATIONS ARE, IT'S LOVELY WHEN WE'RE .

WELL, SPEAKING OF EXPECTATIONS, THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MANY OF US HAVE BUILT OUR, BUILT OUR OWN HOMES AND SO FORTH.

AND THE MOST FUN THING ABOUT IT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, EVERY WEEK OR SO, GETTING TO GO AND SEE WHAT ALL THEY, WHAT ALL HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED IN YOUR, IN YOUR HOME.

AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE, UM, THE TOUR THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

AS WELL.

ESPECIALLY, I'M ENCOURAGED WHEN YOU SAY WE'RE 80, 80, 80% R PLUS.

ON TO AGENDA ITEM SEVEN, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 41 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR THE ROCKWELL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

YOU GUYS WILL BE IMPRESSED WITH THE JOB THAT PARK HILL AND, AND HELEN WILKINSON HAVE HAS DONE ON THE PROJECT.

IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD.

GOOD.

I'M PROUD OF, OF WHERE WE'RE AT, SO THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAD, JUDGE.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR NICO? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU NICO.

AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE

[7. Discuss/Act on approving Proposed Change Order No. 41 to the agreement with Hill & Wilkinson Construction Group for the Rockwall County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

COMMISSIONER STACY? YEAH, REAL QUICK, THIS IS A CREDIT BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO MANUAL BLINDS.

IT WAS, UM, MOTORIZED BLINDS, WAS IN THE, UH, AT LEAST THE ORIGINAL BIDDING.

THIS IS A DECISION THAT WAS MADE EIGHT MONTHS AGO, IT FEELS LIKE.

BUT IT'S FINALLY COMING TO THE POINT WHERE, WHERE WE ACTUALLY GET TO REALIZE THE CREDIT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, IS WE'RE GETTING A CREDIT OF $9,461 AND 7 CENTS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I BELIEVE THIS TAKES A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE FOR PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER 41 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR THE ANNEX PROJECT.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GALANA.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

COMMISSIONER STACEY? YEAH.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

UH, JUDGE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A WORKSHOP AT 2:00 PM UM, SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THIS AT

[9. Discuss/Act on approving Addendum #1 to the Memorandum of Understanding Between Rockwall County and the Rockwall County Sheriff's Office for the Sheriff's Office Renovation project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

LENGTH.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NINE, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING ADDENDUM ONE TO THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN ROCKWALL COUNTY AND THE ROCKWALL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RENOVATION PROJECT IN ALL RELATED ISSUES.

SO, UM, THI THIS ITEM, UH, HAS BEEN WORKED UP WITH, UH, GRANT WORKS, UH, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS, AND THE, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING SOME OF THE EXCESS, WHICH IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, WHICH WOULD FREE UP THE EXCESS.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND OBLIGATE IT BEFORE WE FREE IT.

AND SO THIS IS THE MOU ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND IT'S TAKING THAT EXTRA 900 AND, UH, $15,000 AND PUTTING IT IN THERE.

I WROTE A, A MEMO TO BE PUT IN THE COURT WHERE IT JUST KIND OF TALKS ABOUT THE FINAL RULING.

SO Y'ALL COULD SEE REALLY EASILY WHERE, WHERE WE GET, UM, OUR AUTHORITY TO DO THIS.

BUT, UM, I THINK, UH, THANKS TO, UH, SOME CONVERSATIONS, COMMISSIONER TY AND I HAD, WE KIND OF RANG THE BELL ABOUT WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO DO THIS AND GRANT WORKS AND, UM, LISA'S OFFICE AND, AND, AND ALSO, UH, CRAIG HAS STEPPED UP AND, AND HELPED US NAVIGATE THE WATERS.

UM, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS ARPA.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME.

UM, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE A LOT TO GO ON.

SO WE WENT BACK TO THE FINAL RULE AND, AND WHAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED, SO THE GOAL IS, IS NINE AND 10 ARE, ARE TOGETHER.

I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF ONE ACTION, BUT THEY ARE GONNA BE DIVIDED INTO TWO ACTIONS.

WE'RE FIRST GONNA TAKE THE MOU OBLIGATE THE FUNDS, AND THEN ITEM 10 WOULD BE FREEING UP THE MONEY, WHICH WOULD IMMEDIATELY GO INTO THE MOU SO THAT THE COUNTY NEVER TAKES POSSESSION OF THOSE DOLLARS.

THEY JUST MOVE FROM ONE ARPA PROJECT TO THE NEXT ARPA PROJECT.

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THAT'S THE INTENT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? COMMISSIONER? I, I, I BELIEVE WE UH, WE PUT FOR YOU ON THE COVER PAGE THE SUGGESTED MOTION THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY GRANT WORKS.

THAT IS TRUE.

UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YEAH, BUT NOT, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A TOTAL COST YET, DO WE ON THIS PROJECT? NO.

WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT MORE AT TWO O'CLOCK OR WHATEVER.

CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO APPROVE ADDENDUM ONE.

TO THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN ROCKWALL COUNTY AND ROCKWALL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RENOVATION PROJECT, CONTINGENT UPON THE DE OBLIGATION OF $915,900 IN UNSPENT ARPA FUNDS FROM THE ROCKWALL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT.

THIS ADDENDUM WOULD AUTHORIZE AN INCREASE IN S-L-F-R-F FUNDING TO $3,109,313 AND 3 CENTS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RENOVATION PROJECT TO SUPPORT ELIGIBLE EXPENSES UNDER THE EXISTING SCOPE.

I'LL SECOND GOT MY MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

STACY, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THIS BRINGS US TO

[10. Discuss/Act on Official Change Order No. 05 for the Proposed Changer Orders No. 6, 29, 31 through 40, previously approved by Commissioners Court, to the agreement with Hill & Wilkinson Construction Group for the Rockwall County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

AGENDA ITEM 10.

AND, AND AGAIN, NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT, THIS IS THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL CHANGE ORDER THAT RELEASES SAID FUNDS.

SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND HOLD, LET, LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ THE AGENDA ITEM.

UH, THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 11, DISCUSSING ACT ON APPROVING AMENDMENT 0 0 1 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, A I A DOCUMENT G 8 0 0 2 DASH 2017 WITH PARK HILL TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES AS AN ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICE IN ALL RELATED ISSUES.

I'M SORRY.

AGENDA, I APOLOGIZE.

THE AGENDA, AGENDA DISCUSS, ACT ON OFFICIAL CHANGE ORDER NUMBER FIVE FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGE ORDERS.

NUMBER 6 29 31 THROUGH 40 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR THE ROCKWELL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STACY, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR THE, UH, RELEASING THE $915,900 FROM THE ANNEX BUILDING.

THIS IS THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL CHANGE ORDER.

UM, LAST COURT WE APPROVED A PCO.

THIS BECAME, THAT PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER, BECAME THIS CHANGE ORDER.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

NOPE.

ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE OFFICIAL CHANGE ORDER NUMBER FIVE FOR, UH, THE HILL AND WILKINSON CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR THE ROCKWELL COUNTY ANNEX.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FOUR TO ZERO NOTED FOR THE RECORD.

COMMISSIONER M**K IS SWEARING IN LIBRARY BOARD MEMBERS AT THIS VERY MOMENT.

SO SHE, SHE HAD TO LEAVE THE MEETING, BUT IT'S FOR A GOOD CAUSE.

SO IT PASSES FOUR TO ZERO.

[11. Discuss/Act on approving an amendment (001) to the Professional Services Agreement AIA Document G8002-2017 with Parkhill to provide Construction Phase services, as an additional professional service, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

COMMISSIONER STACY? YEAH, AND, AND SALVADOR IS HERE IF Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GONNA LAY THIS OUT.

UM, WHEN, UH, THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS DONE FOR PARK HILL ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, IT WAS NOT THE INTENT TO PUT ANYTHING IN THE CONTRACT UNTIL IT WAS REALIZED.

THEY KNEW THEY WERE GONNA DESIGN IT, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHEN IT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED.

SO THIS, IT WAS ALWAYS THE INTENT TO MODIFY THE CONTRACT TO INCLUDE THIS CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.

THANKS TO, UH, THE TEAM AT BROAD US THIS WAS NEGOTIATED DOWN.

THIS MONEY HAS ALWAYS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET OF WHAT WE EXPECTED TO PAY FOR THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL.

SO THIS ISN'T ANYTHING NEW, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND ACTIVATE IT.

OBVIOUSLY, IF WE DON'T CONSTRUCT IT, NOTHING HAPPENS, BUT THIS AT LEAST GETS US OVER THE HUMP TO SAY THAT WE WILL HAVE A CONSTRUCTION PARK HILL AS OUR, YOU KNOW, OVERSEEING THE CONSTRUCTION AS WE, AS WE GET INTO, UH, THEIR DESIGN AND BUILD OF THE, UM, OF THIS PROJECT.

SO, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

IT IS FOR $74,450.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACTOR YET, RIGHT? WE DO HAVE A CONTRACTOR.

SCI IS OUR CONTRACTOR, SO WE DO, YES.

ORDERS, UM, WITHOUT, WITHOUT ANY OF THIS.

ALRIGHT.

WELL THAT, THAT RESOLVES MY QUESTION.

I DIDN'T SEE THE CONTRACTOR NAMED IN HERE.

YEAH, THAT'S BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY FOR PARK HILL TO KIND OF OVERSEE THE CONSTRUCTION FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT.

ISN'T THAT CORRECT, SAL? YOU CAN, YOU CAN CLARIFY THAT REAL QUICK.

SO SSCI IS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.

SO THEY WERE SELECTED ON, IN THEIR OWN PROPOSAL, UH, USING THEIR OWN RFP PREVIOUSLY.

SO SCI IS UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY DIRECTLY, AND THEN PARKHILL IS UNDER, UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY DIRECTLY.

IF THESE ADDITIONAL SERVICES ARE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, THIS IS TYPICALLY IN OUR, OUR BASE CONTRACT.

UM, BUT WHAT THIS DOES IS ALLOWS US TO REVIEW SUBMITTALS, UH, DO SITE OBSERVATION, UH, REVIEW AND ANSWER RFIS, UH, HELP ISSUE ANY CHANGE

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WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF DONE RIGHT NOW AT THIS POINT.

UM, SO ANY PART FROM HERE THROUGHOUT CONSTRUCTION, UH, WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE AT THE COUNTY'S RISK WITH THE CONTRACTOR.

SO THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, CORRECT.

THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

AND I ASSUME, AND YOU CAN CONFIRM, I HOPE THAT THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IDENTIFIES THE CONTRACTOR.

IT IT DOES NOT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.

SO THE A I A CONTRACTS END UP KIND OF, UH, THEY, THEY END UP BEING, UM, AMENDMENTS TO EACH OTHER .

SO THE C MARS CONTRACT WILL BE INCLUDED INTO OUR CONTRACT, AND OUR CONTRACT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE C MARS CONTRACT.

THEY KIND OF GET INTER INTERTWINED, UH, BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL USED USING THE A I A DOCUMENTS AND I DON'T, I REALLY HATE GETTING BORED DOWN ON TECHNICAL POINTS, BUT I JUST, THERE'S NOWHERE THE CONTRACTOR'S NAMED.

'CAUSE IT, IT'S A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER CONTRACT SUPERVISE THE CONTRACTOR, DON'T WE? WE, WE SUPERVISE THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS, NOT THE CONTRACTOR.

THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS ARE THE SPECIFICATIONS AND THE DRAWINGS WHICH THE CONTRACTOR USES TO BUILD.

RIGHT.

UH, LOOK, IIII GIVE UP , I GIVE UP.

I, I JUST SAID CAN'T IMAGINE A DOCUMENT WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE AGREEING TO PROVIDE SERVICES BETWEEN AN OWNER AND A CONTRACTOR AND THE CONTRACTOR'S NOT IDENTIFIED.

NOT IN, IT JUST SEEMS ODD.

WE, WE WERE CONTRACTED WITH THE COUNTY BEFORE THERE WAS A CONTRACTOR IDENTIFIED.

SO WE WERE, WE WERE IDENTIFIED FOR DESIGN, UM, AND UP UNTIL CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AT THAT POINT.

UH, SO THE CONTRACTOR, UH, WAS THE OWNER THEN CONTRACT WITH THE CONTRACTOR, WHICH IS A CMAR AT THIS POINT.

UH, AND THAT'S SCI, UM, OKAY.

SO IT ALL KIND OF FUNNELS BACK TO THE OWNER, NOT TO US AS THE DESIGNER.

NICO, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, NO, NOT A QUESTION, JUST A COMMENT.

OH, YOU NEED TO COME FIND A MICROPHONE.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT, COMMISSIONER LTI.

UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT THAT WE HAD ON THE ANNEX, UH, WHICH YOU WOULD SEE BOTH NAMES ON THE CONTRACT.

SO THAT MAY BE WHERE YOUR COMMU UH, CONFUSIONS COMING IN.

UH, THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE AGREEMENTS, UM, AS A DIFFERENT DELIVERY METHOD FOR CONSTRUCTION.

SO, OH, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT I'M JUST USUALLY LOOKING AT THE FOUR CORNERS OF A DOCUMENT AND THEY USUALLY INCLUDE ALL THE TERMS. AND I GOT TWO SMART GUYS AND I GOT A SMART COMMISSIONER SITTING NEXT TO ME THAT SAY, NO, THIS WORKS.

AND I'M LOOKING AT THE AUDITOR AND SHE SEEMS TO THINK IT WORKS , BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF ODD NOT TO HAVE A CONTRACTOR NAMED IN AN AGREEMENT WHERE YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA ADMINISTER THE CONTRACTS BETWEEN US AND THE CONTRACTOR.

THEY ARE NAMED IN THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS.

UM, SO THE DOCUMENTS WE ISSUE TO SCI TO GET A, TO GET A PRICE, THEIR, THEIR CONTRACT IS IN THERE AS AN AMENDMENT IN THERE.

SO IT'S, IT, IT DOES INTERTWINE AND WORK TOGETHER.

BUT I, LIKE I SAY, I GIVE UP.

I, I GIVE UP.

THE ONLY, THE ONLY QUESTION I DO HAVE IS, IS IT REFERENCES THE DOLLAR AMOUNT REFERENCES A LUMP SUM, AND THAT'S NOT IN TERMS OF PAYMENT, CORRECT? AS A LUMP? NO.

CORRECT.

THAT'LL, THAT'LL STILL BE BILLED OUT MONTHLY HOW WE NORMALLY DO.

UM, SO THAT'S JUST THE LUMP SUM OF THE SERVICES.

UM, OKAY.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 13, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A RESOLUTION MODIFYING THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE TO PLACE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, GIS AND RODDEN BRIDGE UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND DECLARING THE INTENT TO ESTABLISH A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT IN THE FY 2026 BUDGET AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

WELL, SINCE YOU'VE GIVEN UP, DON'T LOOK TO ME.

UH, UH, I'M GOING TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AMENDMENT 0 0 1 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT DOCUMENT G 8 0 0 2 DASH 2017 WITH PARK HILL TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STA SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES.

NOW IT PASSES FOUR TO

[12. Discuss/Act on authorizing Rockwall County Human Resources and Gallagher Benefits Services to advertise and accept proposals for individual-specific and Aggregate Stop Loss Reinsurance, Medical Administration, Pharmacy Benefit Management, Dental, Vision, Life and Disability, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy - HR)]

ZERO.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.

DISCUSS AND ACT ON AUTHORIZING ROCKWALL COUNTY HUMAN RESOURCES AND GALLAGHER BENEFITS SERVICES TO ADVERTISE AND ACCEPT PROPOSALS FOR INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC AND AGGREGATE STOP-LOSS, REINSURANCE, MEDICAL ADMINISTRATION, PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGEMENT, DENTAL, VISION, LIFE AND DISABILITY, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER STACY, THIS IS JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET BIDS FOR OUR UPCOMING INSURANCE YEAR.

THIS NOTHING CRAZY IS HAPPENING.

WE'RE NOT AGREEING TO ANYTHING, WE'RE JUST ALLOWING, UM, OUR, UH, BENEFITS CONSULTANTS TO GO OUT, ADVERTISE AND TRY TO GET BIDS FOR US.

IT'S ALL WE'RE DOING.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AUTHORIZING THE ROCKWELL COUNTY HUMAN RESOURCES AND GALLAGHER BENEFIT SERVICES TO ADVERTISE AND ACCEPT PROPOSALS FOR INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC AND AGGREGATE STOP LOSS REINSURANCE, MEDICAL ADMINISTRATION, PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGEMENT, DENTAL, VISION, LIFE AND

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DISABILITY INSURANCE.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

STACY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER.

YOUR VOTES NOW PASSES FOUR TO ZERO.

[13. Discuss/Act on approving a Resolution modifying the organizational structure to place Environmental Health, GIS, and Road & Bridge under the supervision of the County Engineer, and declaring the intent to establish a Development Services department in the FY2026 budget, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

COMMISSIONER STACY? YES.

UM, THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE RESOLUTION, I GUESS TO, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS TO, TO JUST RATIFY, UM, THE HIRING OF OUR NEW ENGINEER, MAKING IT VERY CLEAR THE JOB DUTIES AND THE STRUCTURE AND ALSO TO LET THE, THE AUDITOR STAFF AND THE JUDGE KNOW, UH, IN THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE BUDGET THAT WE, UM, IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COURT TO ESTABLISH, UH, A DEPARTMENT THAT ISN'T CURRENTLY EXISTING.

UM, THE COUNTY ENGINEER WILL BE KIND OF A STANDALONE.

LISA, I THINK, UH, WILL BE PAID OUT OF OUR COUNTY ENGINEERING SERVICES ITEM.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY A DEPARTMENT.

SO, UM, THIS IS A, A VERY, VERY MILD, UM, MODIFICATION TO THE, UH, JOB DESCRIPTION.

UM, IT JUST SAYS THE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE COUNTY ENGINEER AND ALSO A RESOLUTION, UM, THAT I BELIEVE EVERYONE'S HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, ARE YOU DONE? YEAH.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 15, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVAL OF A PAVEMENT INVESTIGATION AGREEMENT OR SIMILAR AGREEMENT FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO TERRY LANE.

SO ITEM TWO IN YOUR RESOLUTION SAYS, THE COUNTY ENGINEER SHALL PERFORM THE DUTIES AS DESCRIBED ON THE UP UPDATE DATED JOB DESCRIPTION ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT B.

AND I KNOW WE LOOKED AT THIS JOB DESCRIPTION BEFORE AND EVERYBODY'S PRETTY MUCH SIGNED OFF ON IT.

IS IT NORMAL THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE CAMMY? DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS HERE ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT? NO.

AND THE, THE REASON I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE ARE WE SOMEHOW BY APPROVING IT HERE, ARE WE TYING OURSELVES INTO, UH, AN REQUIREMENT THAT IF THIS EVER CHANGES, THAT WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT EVERY TIME? 'CAUSE I SURE HOPE NOT.

AND, AND THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS, UH, I HAD ONE OF OUR PEOPLE ASK, SENT, SENT ME A QUESTION SAYING ABOUT POTENTIAL ISSUE IN THE DESCRIPTION, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT NEED CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET US LOCKED INTO SOMETHING WHERE WE ARE HAVING TO TAKE ACTION EVERY TIME WE SAY, WELL, OH, ALSO YOU NEED TO DO THIS.

WE TYPICALLY TREAT OUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS AS LIVING DOCUMENTS.

I KNOW THAT THE COURT HAS AT ONE POINT TAKEN ACTION ON A NUMBER OF JOB DESCRIPTIONS BACK IN 2016.

UM, BUT WE HAVE CONTINUED TO UPDATE AS NEEDED.

UM, SO WOULD YOU BE GREAT IF WE SAID HERE, THE COUNTY ENGINEER SHALL PERFORM THE DUTIES AS DESCRIBED IN THE UPDATED JOB DESCRIPTION ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT B, AS THE SAME MAY BE CHANGED FROM TIME TO TIME IN ACCORDANCE WITH COUNTY PROCEDURES? YES.

THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'D BE GOOD.

THANK YOU, CAMMY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I AM GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE AMENDED RESOLUTION MODIFYING THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE TO PLACE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH GIS AND RODDEN BRIDGE UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND DECLARE THE INTENT TO ESTABLISH A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT IN THE FY 2026 BUDGET.

I WILL SECOND.

SO IT'S MY MOTION.

IT'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FOUR TO ZERO.

[15. Discuss/Act on approval of a Pavement Investigation Agreement (or similar agreement) for improvements to Terry Lane in the City of Heath, Texas, in an amount up to $20,508.70, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)]

IN THE CITY OF HEATH IN THE AMOUNT UP TO $20,508 70 CENTS IN ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER LICHTY, UM, THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PRECEDES MY TIME ON THE COURT.

UM, IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, UH, COMMISSIONER GILBERT, UH, MADE A MOTION AND THE COURT APPROVED ENTERING INTO INTER AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF HEATH FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, FOR DOING ROAD ROADWORK IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS PART OF FUNDS THAT WERE DESIGNATED BY THE COURT TO BE USED

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IN EACH PRECINCT FOR THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMISSIONER.

AND FROM TALKING TO COMMISSIONER, FORMER COMMISSIONER GILBERT ON THIS IN DETAIL AND TALKING TO THE CITY, IT WAS THEIR UNDERSTANDING, UH, THAT THESE FUNDS WOULD BE USED FOR CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO TERRY LANE IN THE CITY OF HEATH, AS WAS SPOKEN TO, SPOKEN WITH RESPECT TO BY ONE OF THE EARLIER, UH, PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

UM, THE ATTACHED TO YOUR DOCUMENTS ARE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED BACK IN 2022, AND ALSO A PROPOSAL FOR PAVEMENT INVESTIGATIVE INVESTIGATION AGREEMENT, UM, WITH TEAM CONSULTANTS.

AND AS I'M SURE YOU ALL READ IT, IT'S TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE SAMPLINGS OF TERRY LANE IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THE BASE.

THE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT RIGHT NOW, TERRY LANE, WELL, LET'S PUT THIS WAY.

THE LAST TIME IT WAS WORKED ON, IT WAS CONCRETE.

UM, AND THE CITY THINKS THAT THEY CAN USE THE MONEY MORE EFFICIENTLY TO DO AN ASPHALT OVERLAY ON CONCRETE, UM, AND STILL HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT.

AND THAT WOULD BE MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE AND WOULD PROBABLY ALLOW THE FUNDS THAT WERE SPENT NOT ONLY TO COMPLETE THE ROAD WORK, THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, BUT ALSO TO BUILD, FINISH BUILDING THE PORTION OF THE TRAIL THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEING BUILT BY DEVELOPERS.

UM, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE THAT TRAIL IS VERY SIGNIFICANT TO THE CITY OF HEATH AND TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO ACCESS, UH, TERRY PARK.

SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE COME UP WITH THIS AGREEMENT.

I, SO YOU'LL KNOW, I SENT THIS AGREEMENT TO OUR, UH, OUR ROAD CONSULTANT, UM, ITS AND ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT THIS AND TO GET THEIR CONFIRMATION THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE STEPS TO BE TAKEN AND THAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY HELP DETERMINE THE, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO AN ASPHALT OVERLAY.

AND THEY SAID, YES, IT WAS A GOOD JOB.

IT WAS, IT'S A GOOD TEST TO BE DONE.

IT'S ABOUT 20,000, WHICH I THINK IF MY MATH'S RIGHT, IT'S ABOUT 1% OF THE TOTAL GRANT.

UM, AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS, OR, OR ONE OF THE CONCERNS, NOT THE WHOLE PURPOSE.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS I'VE HAD IS THAT IF WE DO AN ASPHALT OVERLAY, WE'RE SPENDING BOND MONEY THAT'S 20 YEAR MONEY, AND I DON'T WANNA USE 20 YEAR MONEY ON A FIVE YEAR REPAIR.

SO THEY HAVE TOLD ME THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THESE, WHICH YOU'RE GONNA GET A 15 TO 20 YEAR LIFE OUT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THAT'S GREAT.

SO THIS IS TO DO THE INITIAL TESTING TO DETERMINE IF WE'RE GONNA PROCEED WITH AN ASPHALT OVERLAY OR CONCRETE COMMISSIONER LICH LICK.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UM, WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT HAS PROCURED $2 MILLION FOR THE CITY OF HEATH TO USE TO BUILD ROADS.

WHY DO WE NEED TO SEE THIS AND ACT ON IT? THERE'S AN ARGUMENT WE DON'T.

IT'S AN INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT.

IN FACT, I'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.

I THINK, UH, THE AUDITOR WAS INVOLVED IN THIS EMAIL CHANGE.

THE REASON I DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA IS FRANKLY JUST TRANSPARENCY.

UM, I WAS, IT WAS SUGGESTED TO BE BY SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE AUDITOR THAT I DON'T DO THIS.

AND I THOUGHT, ACTUALLY, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE COURT APPROVE IT BECAUSE I WANNA BE REAL CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THE ROAD WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON.

AND, AND, AND I'M GONNA MAKE THIS THIS QUICK, IT'S JUST THAT WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SAY NO, THE CITY OF HEATH CAN STILL DO IT, IS IS WOULD BE MY ONLY POINT.

I DO, I DO APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY AND I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL OF THE TRANSPARENCY.

IT'S JUST THAT WHAT IF THE, WHAT IF YOU GET OUT VOTED THREE TO ONE, THE CITY OF HEATH CAN STILL JUST KEEP ON DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING 'CAUSE THEY HAVE THE MONEY.

WELL, I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THEY WOULD DO THAT.

I WOULD TOO, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING.

YEAH, I SUPPOSE THAT RISK EXISTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'D GO BACK TO THE TITLE OF THIS DOCUMENT.

AND I WASN'T HERE WHEN THIS WAS DONE.

NEITHER WERE NO ONE, NO ONE UP HERE WAS NO, NONE OF US WERE.

NONE OF US WERE.

AND BUT HAD I BEEN HERE, I WOULD'VE PROBABLY MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT .

UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT , BUT I THINK THAT IT WAS CLEARLY FROM BOTH DISCUSSING WITH BOTH THE CITY AND COMMISSIONER GILBERT, IT WAS CLEARLY THE UNDERSTANDING INFORMALLY THAT THIS

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WOULD BE DONE ON TERRY LANE.

I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY, THEY WANNA DO TERRY LANE.

IT'S A, THE STREET'S IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.

UM, AND SO I, I'M HOPING THE COURT GOES ALONG WITH THIS.

AND REALLY, LIKE I SAID, THE BIGGEST REASON I DID IT IS TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, Y'ALL.

AND IT'S, IT'S COURT MONEY.

WE'RE SPENDING IT.

WE'RE ALL IN THIS SHIP TOGETHER, AND I WANNA LET YOU GO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO OFF.

AND, UH, THE NEXT ONE, ONCE WE APPROVE THIS, I'M, WHO KNOWS, I MAY NOT COME BACK AFTER THIS GRILLING I'VE BEEN RECEIVING THIS MORNING, BUT, UH, FOR NOW, IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

I, I HAD HAD SOME SIMILAR QUESTIONS AS TO WHY, WHY DO WE NEED TO APPROVE IT IF WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THEM THE MONEY IN APPROVING IT DOES THAT WE'RE NOT TIED TO ANY FUTURE ACTION ON THIS ROAD, ARE WE? SO I MAY HAVE BEEN THE PERSON THAT CAUSED THIS.

I, I, I DON'T KNOW.

I, MY READING IS WE DO HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

THEY NEED TO HAVE AN APPROVED, WE'VE NOT GIVEN THEM THE MONEY.

THEY, AND, AND THEY BEING HEATH, HEATH GOES OUT AND ENTERS INTO A CONTRACT FOR ROADWAY.

AND, AND I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER TRAILS FITS UNDER THAT OR NOT, BUT THEY GO OUT AND ISSUE A CONTRACT.

AND IF IT'S WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THIS, THEY BRING US THE INVOICE AND THEN WE PAY IT.

BUT IF, IF I WERE THE CITY OF HEATH AND, AND I HAVE REPRESENTED THE CITY OF HEATH, I WOULD CERTAINLY WANT THIS APPROVED PRIOR TO GOING UNDER CONTRACT AND, AND ISSUING A WORK ORDER AND THEN COMING BACK WITH AN INVOICE AND THEN HAVE IT POTENTIALLY NOT BE APPROVED.

I, AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE NOT TIED TO THIS ROAD AFTER THIS FOR ANY FUTURE.

NOW WE, WE WE'RE NOT.

'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE ROAD SURFACE YEP.

VERSUS CONCRETE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA LAST 20 YEARS IN MY OPINION, 20 YOUR MONEY.

AND I WOULD SAY ESPECIALLY, WE'RE NEVER SEEN ASPHALT LAST 20 YEARS.

WE'RE, WE'RE DOING SOMEWHAT OF AN EXPLORATORY YEAH.

A PRICING, UH, MANEUVER HERE THAT WE MAY GET THAT INFORMATION AND THEN COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE RIGHT.

THE THE BASE HERE LAST 10 YEARS MAYBE IS, IS NOT GONNA WORK.

WE, WE CAN'T, THIS IS NOT A 20 YEAR SOLUTION.

THIS IS A FIVE YEAR SOLUTION.

IT'S, I YEAH, NO, I'VE NEVER SEEN ASPHALT LAST 20 YEARS ANYWHERE.

I MEAN, WE'D LUCKY IF WE GET 10.

WELL, AND SO IF IT'S THEIR MONEY AND WE'RE NOT TIED TO A REPAIR THAT DOESN'T LAST THE TERM OF THE MONEY, THEN I'M OKAY.

BUT IS THAT A GOOD USE OF IT? YOUR CONCERN IS VALID.

UH, COMMISSIONER GOANA, AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

THEY SAID, WELL, TO DO COMPLETE CONCRETE, UM, THEY'RE GONNA CHEW UP THE $2 MILLION AND, UM, MAYBE MORE.

AND WE COULDN'T DO THE TRAILS.

THIS THIS IS, THIS IS SUCH A SIGNIFICANT TRAIL TO THE ENTIRE, UH, TRAIL SYSTEM OF OUR COUNTY, WHICH WE'RE NOW WORKING ON A MASTER TRAIL PLAN.

IT'S SUCH A SIGNIFICANT TRAIL THAT IT'S IMPORTANT WE DO IT.

AND I, THE JUDGE'S CONCERN, I CAN GUESS EXACTLY WHY HE HAS IT BASED ON THE LANGUAGE.

BUT IF THERE IS A CONCERN AND, AND OUR LAWYERS WERE TO TELL US THERE IS PREPARE IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO GET AN AMENDMENT TO THE INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT, IT CLARIFIES IT .

UM, BUT YEAH, THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I DID IT.

UH, BOBBY IS JUST THAT, IT'S LIKE I HEARD THE SAME THING.

I THOUGHT REALLY ASPHALT AND WE WOULDN'T BE TIED TO DOING REPAIRS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT STILL, WE HAVE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND THEY ASSURE ME, IN FACT, I'VE BEEN TOLD BY TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF HEATH THAT, OH, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO IN THE PARK CITIES.

NOW, THERE'S A REASON I NEVER MOVED TO THE PARK CITIES, BUT ASPHALT ISN'T ONE OF THEM, BUT THEY SAY THAT'S WHAT THEY DO THERE.

AND IT WORKS GREAT AND IT LOOKS GREAT, AND DA DA DA DA DA.

MAYBE I, I WANTED TO KNOW THAT BEFORE WE PROCEED DOWN A PATH THAT IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD WORKING SOLUTION AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS $20,000 PLUS AGREEMENT.

BUT THI THIS IS HEATH, HEATH WANTS THIS.

ABSOLUTELY.

HE HEATH AGREES TO IT.

HEATH IS GOING TO CONTRACT AND THEN TURN IN INVOICES TO, TO THE COURT.

KNOW IF WE CAN PROCEED ON THAT WITH GETTING THIS ROAD.

DOES, DOES THE AGREEMENT STATE IF IT'S GONNA BE OUR STANDARDS OR CITY OF HEATH STANDARDS SINCE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM US? WELL, ON THIS, ON THIS INTER ON THIS ENGINEERING, I CALL IT AN ENGINEERING AGREEMENT.

IT DOESN'T, THIS IS JUST AN INVESTIGATIVE AGREEMENT.

I THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO SIX OR SEVEN BORINGS IN THE ROAD, WHICH YOU WOULD, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH MORE THAN I AM.

AND CERTAINLY OUR NEW COUNTY ENGINEER IS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET INPUT FROM Y'ALL ON THAT BE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT.

BUT THEY'RE JUST DOING BORINGS IN THE ROW THAT THEY'RE GONNA SEND OFF AND HAVE STUDIED.

AND THE WHOLE PROCESS IS GONNA TAKE FOUR WEEKS, SIX WEEKS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, PLUS OR MINUS.

AND THEN WE'LL

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AND THIS ROAD IS, IT IS TERRIBLE.

IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

YOU KNOW, I WENT OUT WITH, UH, UH, WAYNE, WAYNE HENSLEY, AND WE DID A CO TOUR OF SOME ROADS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT FIXING NEXT YEAR IN THE COUNTY, COUNTY ROADS, SIX ROADS.

WE DROVE, WAYNE AND I, NOT ONE OF THEM WAS NEARLY AS BAD AS TERRY LANE, NOT ONE OF 'EM.

AND YET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIXED THEM IN THE COUNTY.

SO WE NEED TO GET, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, TERRY LANE IS A CITY ROAD.

TERRY LANE IS A CITY ROAD.

BUT THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE, HASN'T IT, COMMISSIONER? IT HAS.

UH, WELL, AND EVEN NOT, NOT TO GO DOWN A RABBIT HOLE, UH, TERRY LANE WAS ON A PREVIOUS BOND PACKAGE THAT WAS SOLD.

UM, AND THIS AGREEMENT IS OUT OF A 2021 BOND PACKAGE THAT HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED.

BUT WE DID HAVE FUNDS LEFT OFF OF A 2008 PACKAGE THAT WE, VIA THIS AGREEMENT, UH, ISOLATED FOR HEATH.

UH, SO IT, IT, IT, IT IS THE COMPLEX INNER WORKINGS OF BUILDING ROADS IN ROCKWALL COUNTY.

AND I I WOULD SAY IF, IF HEATH WANTS THIS, I THINK IT'S A PROPER THING TO DO, TO DO THIS EXPLORATORY, UH, ENGINEERING.

JUST TO MAKE SURE.

'CAUSE BACK TO COMMISSIONER ALANA'S POINT, ASPHALT TYPICALLY DOESN'T SURVIVE WELL, BUT IT TYPICALLY DOESN'T HAVE A CONCRETE BASE.

AND, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE UNKNOWN.

IF IT HAS CONCRETE BASE, WE, WE MAY HAVE A CHANCE.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL ME.

THEY, AND, BUT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT.

JUST THE FACT THAT AS A CONCRETE BASE, YOU COULD HAVE BAD BASE UNDER THE CONCRETE.

CERTAINLY COULD.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOTTA DO THIS.

AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW EVERYBODY ON THIS COURT WOULD AGREE WITH ME.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING ENOUGH ROAD REPAIR AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN BUILDING ENOUGH ROADS.

AND IF WE CAN GET IT STARTED AND WE CAN GET PEOPLE MOVING AROUND THIS COUNTY SAFER AND QUICKER, EVERYBODY'S IN FAVOR OF IT.

SO THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.

AND, AND I AGREE.

I, I, I, THE ONLY THING I DISAGREE WITH IS WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE GETTING HAMMERED WITH QUESTIONS.

I I DON'T FEEL THAT THAT'S TRUE.

I THINK THESE ARE VERY, IT WAS THIS GRILLING, I THINK THAT SAID THERE, THERE WAS NO, THERE WAS NO GRILLING, UH, OF ANY POINT.

WE'RE, WE'RE NOT DONE YET, .

SO, UM, IT, IT'S, IT WON'T LIMIT DISCUSSION.

UM, BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE OF THE PAYMENT INVESTIGATION AGREEMENT FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO TERRY LANE IN THE CITY OF HEATH IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,508 AND 70 CENTS.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.

I'LL SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES.

NOW THAT PASSES FOUR TO ZERO.

UH, WE ARE GOING TO DO, YOU KNOW WHAT, NOW WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LUNCH BREAK.

IT'S 12 O'CLOCK.

LET'S MEET BACK HERE AT ONE 15.

AND THAT'LL PUT US UNDER PRESSURE TO GET DONE BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE WORKSHOP.

SO WE AT ONE 15, WE'RE GONNA BE BACK AT 1201.

WE ARE IN RECESS.

ON AGENDA ITEM 16, DISCUSSING ACT ON APPROVING THE FINAL CERTIFICATION RELEASE OF CLAIMS AND INVOICE FOR CEDAR CREEK WATERSHED.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO THE REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT SESSION.

WE ARE

[16. Discuss/Act on approving the Final Certification, Release of Claims and Invoice for Cedar Creek Watershed 3 project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty-Auditor)]

THREE PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

THIS IS A PROJECT WE STARTED WORKING ON, UM, ACTUALLY BEFORE I GOT ON COMMISSIONER'S COURT, AND I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON IT, AND IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

ONE OF THE BEST DAMS EVER BEEN BUILT IN THIS COUNTY.

WE GOTTA GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY, JUST RIGHT, RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.

YOU GOTTA GET OUR, GET OUR DAMN JOKE OUT OF THE WAY.

UH, AH.

ANYWAY, UM, I, THE, THE CONTRACTOR, UH, OUR CONTRACTORS COMPLETED THE WORK.

OUR OVERSIGHT OFFICERS LOOKED AT IT.

I WENT OUT AND DID A SITE INSPECTION WITH THEM ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

UH, UH, LOOKED LIKE EVERYTHING WAS DONE JUST EXACTLY ACCORDING TO PAR, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD.

THE MONEY'S GOTTA BE SPENT, AND WE'LL BE AT OUR FINAL PAYMENT, AND WE'LL BE DONE WITH THIS ONE.

THEY'VE ALREADY MOVED OFF AND, UM, THEY'RE PLANTING GRASS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO, OKAY.

IT'S A GREAT THING TO DO.

THIS REQUIRES, UH, ACTION ON OUR BEHALF, I BELIEVE.

FIVE TO ZERO BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM

I BELIEVE IF WE JUST APPROVE THE FINAL CERTIFICATION, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION APPROVING THE FINAL CERTIFICATION RELEASE OF CLAIMS AND INVOICES FOR CEDAR CREEK WATERSHED.

NUMBER THREE PROJECT.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

I'LL, I'LL SECOND THAT.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES.

NOW THAT PASSES

[17. Discuss/Act on accepting a donation of a gift card and donating the gift card to a tax-exempt charitable organization per Texas Penal Code 36.08(i), and all related issues; (Judge New)]

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17, DISCUSS AN ACT ON ACCEPTING A DONATION OF A GIFT CARD AND DONATING THE GIFT CARD TO A TAX EXEMPT CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION PER TEXAS PENAL CODE THREE 6.08.

MS. KAMI WEBB, DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER THIS BRIEFLY? LISA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD ABOUT THIS? I'LL LET, I'LL HEAR WHAT CAMMY HAS TO SAY, AND THEN I'LL ADD, ADD ANYTHING PERTINENT.

I, I DIDN'T PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA.

I'M ASSUMING THIS HAS TO DO WITH A GIFT CARD THAT WAS GIFTED TO OUR INDIGENT HEALTH PERSONNEL.

IT'S A $20 GIFT CARD FROM PANERA.

UM, SO I BELIEVE THE INTENT WOULD BE FOR THE COURT TO ACCEPT IT UNDER THE STATUTE TO, TO ACCEPT IT AND ALLOW OUR INDIGENT CARE TO DONATE TO THEN USE IT AS NEEDED FOR ONE OF OUR INDIGENT.

OR DO WE HAVE TO DONATE IT TO, WE DONATE IT.

WE DONATE IT.

SO, UH, YEAH, THE, UM, IT, I ALWAYS LOVE IT WHEN, WHEN THE PUBLIC ACKNOWLEDGES OUR STAFF.

UM, IT IS, IT IS.

SOME, SOMEBODY WAS THANKING OUR INDIGENT HEALTHCARE DIRECTOR FOR HELPING THEIR GRANDSON AND, AND, AND SEND HIM UP, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WANTING TO BUY 'EM LUNCH.

UH, THEY CALLED ME AND I TOLD THEM, I SAID, UH, WELL, IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE GIFT AND THEN WE DONATE IT ELSEWHERE.

UH, IT IS REFERENCED IN THE PENAL CODE.

IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE.

UM, NOT SURE EXACTLY IF THE PENAL CODE APPLIES THE SAME WAY TO INDIGENT HEALTH, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, WE RECEIVED SOMETHING AND WE'LL, WE CAN DONATE MAYBE TO HELPING HANDS SINCE IT IS, YOU KNOW, INDIGENT.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST.

YEAH, THAT WOULD GET IT.

ESSENTIALLY ALONG THE SAME LINES, BUT WE, WE DID, UH, IN THE PA THE, WHEN THIS HAPPENED IN THE PAST FOR THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE, REACHED OUT TO THE TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION, AND THEY CONCURRED THAT, THAT WE DO IT, UH, THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT.

SO, UH, IF YOU JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THE DONATION AND THEN WE'LL CAN DONATE IT TO HELPING HANDS, PLEASE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE AND ACCEPT A DONATION OF A GIFT CARD AND DONATE THE SAID GIFT CARD TO HELPING HANDS.

I'LL SECOND.

GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

STACY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

[18. Discuss/Act on approving the Texas Statewide Automated Victim Notification Service (SAVNS) Agreement with SylogistGov, Inc. for FY2026 in the amount of $15,320 to be reimbursed by the Office of the Attorney General, and all related issues; (Judge New - Auditor)]

BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 18, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE TEXAS STATEWIDE AUTOMATED VICTIM NOTIFICATION SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH SIST GOV INC.

FOR FY 2026 IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,320 TO BE REIMBURSED BY THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN ALL RELATED ISSUES.

I'M GONNA TRY TO SUMMARIZE THIS BRIEFLY.

UH, LISA, SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS IS A MOVE BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.

THEY'VE MOVED TO THIS COMPANY FROM A PREVIOUS SYSTEM, AND, UH, THEY SENT A LETTER REQUESTING THAT WE ALL MIGRATE TO THIS NEW SYSTEM, THAT IT IS LEGIT AND THEY WILL PAY FOR WHAT IT COSTS THE COUNTY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THEY PAY US THE EXACT AMOUNT OF WHAT WE PAY FOR OUR, FOR USING THIS COMPANY.

SO IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT.

IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, THEN I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE TEXAS STATEWIDE AUTOMATED VICTIM NOTIFICATION SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH SLOGS GOV INC.

FOR THE FY 2026 IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,320 TO BEING REIMBURSED BY THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WOULD, I'LL JUST SAY ONE THING.

I AM GLAD TO FINALLY SEE A FUNDED MANDATE.

, YOU, YOU'RE HERE JUST IN TIME.

AND THIS MAY BE THE LAST ONE EVER.

YEAH, DON'T SAY IT OUT LOUD.

IF EVERYONE WILL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

THIS BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 19, DISCUSS AND ACT ON ADOPTING A SPECIAL BUDGET FOR GRANT MONEY IN THE AMOUNT OF $45,961 40 CENTS FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION, PURSUANT TO SECTION 1 1 1 0 1 0 6 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

[19. Discuss/Act on adopting a special budget for grant money in the amount of $45,961.40 from the Office of the Governor Criminal Justice Division pursuant to Section 111.0106 of the Texas Local Government Code, and all related issues; (Judge New - Auditor)]

I'M GONNA LET YOU HANDLE THIS ONE.

YES, SIR.

UH, THE GRANT WAS APPLIED FOR UNDER, WITH THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

UH, WE RECEIVED THE GRANT, THE MONEY HAS ARRIVED, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THE MONEY, WE NEED TO GIVE IT A BUDGET.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING TODAY, IS I'M CERTIFYING TO YOU THAT THERE'S NEW MONEY

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THAT'S COME ABOUT AFTER WE'VE PASSED THE BUDGET, AND THAT WE'LL NEED TO SET UP A BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO EXPEND THOSE MONIES.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY, IS THE ADOPTING A SPECIAL BUDGET AND CERTIFYING THOSE FUNDS.

UH, LISA, LISA, IS THIS FOR FY 25 OR FY 20.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE AUDITOR.

UM, SO WE GOT THE EMAIL YOU SENT, I IT TO ALANA, SAID THAT THE PAYMENT AMOUNT IS $45,961 AND 40 CENTS, BUT THEN THE GRANT AWARD SAID IT WAS 60,000.

SO IS THERE MORE MONEY THAT WE'VE GOTTA PAY OUT LATER, OR HOW DOES THAT ALL WORK? IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY THE REST IS OUR MATCH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S A PERCENTAGE OF THE AMOUNT.

I DON'T, UH, I, I'D HAVE TO FIND OUT THE EXACT REASON, COMMISSIONER, BUT IN MY JUST EXPERIENCE, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY THAT THAT 45,000 IS, IS THE PART THAT THEY'RE PAYING, AND THEN THE REST IS OUR MATCH.

I, I IS, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

AND I BELIEVE OUR MATCH WAS MADE BY, UH, CALCULATING HOURS IN, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO WRITE A CHECK.

WE JUST USE THE HOURS WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING AS, AS OUR MATCH.

IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.

IT'S, YEAH.

IT IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.

IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.

WELL, BUT IT SAYS THE AWARD AMOUNT IS 60,000.

I, I JUST COULDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.

YEAH, I, I, READING THROUGH THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING.

IT IT, AND IT, IT IS CONFUSING, BUT I BELIEVE, UH, LISA'S CORRECT.

AND THAT IS THEIR 45,000 PLUS OUR MATCH, WHICH AGAIN, WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO.

WE'RE SAYING OUR MATCH IS THE HOURS WE'VE INVESTED, UM, ON, ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

BUT I, I'LL FIND OUT FOR SURE AND, AND LET YOU KNOW AFTER COURT.

BUT, BUT FOR NOW, WE'VE RECEIVED 45,000 FOR TO BE ABLE TO EXPEND THOSE MONIES, WE NEED TO MAKE THIS BUDGET FOR IT.

SO, OKAY.

SO EVEN IF WE GET MORE MONEY AFTERWARDS, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU IF IT INCLUDED, IF WE GO UP TO THE 60,000.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NONE.

I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT A SPECIAL BUDGET FOR GRANT MONEY IN THE AMOUNT OF $45,961 40 CENTS FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION, PURSUANT TO SECTION 1 1 1 0.0106 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 20, DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING THE ROCKWALL COUNTY LIBRARY APPLICATION FOR THE TEXAS STATE BOOK FESTIVAL COLLECTIONS ENHANCEMENT GRANT.

THAT

[20. Discuss/Act on approving the Rockwall County Library application for the Texas State Book Festival Collections Enhancement Grant, and all related issues; (Judge New - Library Director)]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING.

SHE TOLD ME BEFORE SHE LEFT, JUDGE THAT, FIRST OF ALL, SHE APOLOGIZED FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO STAY, BUT SHE TOLD ME BEFORE SHE LEFT THAT THIS WAS A, AS SHE PUT IT, A VERY SIMPLE GRANT REQUEST AND THINKS WE'LL GET IT.

AND SHE, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL, ALL ALL WE NEED TO KNOW, REALLY.

HEY, IT'S FREE MONEY.

IT'S FREE MONEY, LET FREE MONEY.

LET'S, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GO FOR IT.

LET'S APPLY FOR IT.

MARCINE DID SPEAK TO ME ALSO, AND SHE SAYS IT'S $2,500.

UH, AND, AND WE'VE, I BELIEVE WE'VE APPLIED FOR THESE GRANTS BEFORE.

SO THAT'S THE IMPRESSION I GOT.

THIS IS KIND OF A ROUTINE THING.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ROCKWALL COUNTY LIBRARY'S APPLICATION FOR THE TEXAS STATE BOOK FESTIVAL COLLECTIONS ENHANCEMENT GRANT.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES.

AGENDA ITEM 21, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE ROCKWALL COUNTY SHERIFF APPLICATION FOR THE MOTOR VEHICLE CRIME PREVENTION AUTHORITY, SB 2 24 CATALYTIC CONVERTER GRANT PROGRAM, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.

THIS BRINGS US TO

[21. Discuss/Act on approving the Rockall County Sheriff application for the Motor Vehicle Crime Prevention Authority SB 224 Catalytic Converter Grant Program, and all related issues; (Judge New -Sheriff-Auditor)]

SHERIFF.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

UH, THIS GRANT IS FOR, IS UNDER THE MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT PREVENTION AUTHORITY.

AND, UH, IT WILL PROVIDE US WITH, WE'RE ASKING PERMISSION TO, UM, APPLY FOR THIS GRANT.

UH, YOU DO HAVE SOME PAPERWORK ON THAT.

SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS MAY CHANGE, BUT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO BUY, UM, TECHNOLOGY AND EQUIPMENT THAT WILL HELP US IN THE, THE DETECTION, PREVENTION AND APPREHENSION OF,

[02:30:01]

UH, ITEMS THAT MIGHT BE USED IN THE THEFT OF A VEHICLE, CATALYTIC CONVERTER OR OTHER THINGS.

UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE, UH, DRONE TECHNOLOGIES.

ONE OF IS THE DFR DRONE OR, UM, DRONE FOR FIRST RESPONDER, WHICH IS AN AUTO, UH, AUTONOMOUS DRONE.

UH, THERE ARE, UH, I GUESS RESTRICTIONS TO THE FAA, BUT THEY FILE THE RESTRIC THE RESTRICTION PAPERWORK FOR US SO WE CAN FLY OUTTA LINE OF SIGHT FOR THESE DRONES, UH, TO RESPOND TO, UH, VARIOUS CALLS BEFORE A DEPUTY CAN GET THERE.

UH, THE OTHER THING IS FOR, UH, UH, TRACKING DEVICES FOR STOLEN VEHICLES, UH, THAT WE COULD USE.

WE USE BAIT VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND, UH, IF, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UH, YOU APPROVED, UH, ONE OF OUR DEPUTIES BEING INVOLVED WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT PREVENTION OR THEFT PREVENTION AUTHORITY.

UM, AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE UTILIZES ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THE THIRD, UH, THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE THE, UH, LPR LICENSE PLATE READER GRANTS, UH, CAMERAS FOR THE GRANT.

AND THOSE, THOSE HAVE HELPED US TREMENDOUSLY, UH, WITH THE ONES THAT, THAT WE DO HAVE AND OTHER PLACES HAVE IN PREVENTING AND, UM, CAPTURING CRIMINALS.

IF YOU'LL REMEMBER EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE AWARDED, UM, WE GAVE AN AWARD TO ONE OF OUR DEPUTIES WHO WAS ABLE TO ACCESS AND HELPED ROCKWELL PD SOLVE A MURDER.

AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS HOW THAT WAS DONE THROUGH THAT TECHNOLOGY.

SO THIS WILL GIVE US, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO BASICALLY DEPLOY AND RESPOND IN THREE DIFFERENT WAYS.

GOT IT.

AND, AND THIS IS ONE SHERIFF THAT, THAT, I THINK THIS IS ONE YOU TALKED TO ME ABOUT, THAT WE WOULD PAY THIS AND THEN THEY WOULD REIMBURSE US.

YES, SIR.

LESS OUR MATCH.

THIS IS, THIS IS A 20, UH, THIS IS AN 80% REIMBURSEMENT GRANT.

SO WE WOULD PAY THE AMOUNT OUT AND THEN THEY WOULD REIMBURSE US THE 80%.

AND, AND IS THIS SOMETHING WE'RE WANTING TO DO WITH THIS BUDGET WITH THE 25 BUDGET? I BELIEVE THIS GOES INTO EFFECT PROBABLY THE 1ST OF OCTOBER.

SO WE, WE WOULD APPROVE IT NOW, BUT APPLY FOR THE 26TH BUDGET.

THE, UH, SO WE WILL KNOW ABOUT THE AWARD OF THE GRANT BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST, PROBABLY AROUND AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, IF THE GRANT IS AWARDED, BUT WILL GO INTO EFFECT IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, UH, WITH SOME OF THE LEGISLATION THAT'S, UH, BEING BOUNCED AROUND RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH DRONE TECHNOLOGY.

UH, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COULD AFFECT WHAT THE, THE REST OF THE BACKUP YOU HAVE IN THERE.

AS FAR AS THE QUOTES ON THE DRONES.

SHERIFF, SHERIFF, DID YOU WANT TO USE GENERAL FUND MONEY OR SEIZURE FUND MONEY FOR IT? UH, WE COULD USE EITHER ONE IF WE, IF WE USE THE GENERAL FUND MONEY, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A BUDGETED RIGHT ITEM AND, AND THEN REIMBURSED BECAUSE THE APPLICATION WE'RE SAYING ON, ON THE APPLICATION AND YOU'RE APPROVING TODAY, IT SAYS GENERAL FUND.

SO THIS WOULD BE AN EXPENSE FOR FY 26.

BUT THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD CHANGE WHEN WE APPLY FOR THE GRANT THOUGH? IF WE, IF YOU WANTED TO USE SEIZURES OR AMOUNT.

RIGHT.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE UNTIL THE 23RD TO ACTUALLY COMPLETE THE GRANT APPLICATION AND PUT IT IN.

SO I, I WOULD SAY LET'S, LET'S APPLY FOR IT.

AND I DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN PEOPLE'S MOUTH.

I DO SEE THE BENEFIT OF IT, UH, AND TO GET SOMEBODY TO PAY FOR 80% OF IT AND THEN WE'LL DETERMINE IF WE GET IT AND THEY SAY, YES, WE GET IT NOW, THEN WE'LL NEED TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT CONTINGENCY FUNDS AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE QUESTION OF HOW QUICK ARE WE GONNA GET OUR MONEY BACK? AND, AND THEN LISA AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE, THE 20% WHERE OUR PLAN WAS TO USE THE, UH, THE SEIZURE FUNDS.

SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

WELL, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ROCKWELL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE APPLYING FOR THE MOTOR VEHICLE CRIME PREVENTION AUTHORITY, SB 2 24 CATALYTIC CONVERTER GRANT PROGRAM.

I'LL SECOND.

GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GUANA.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE.

AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 24, CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU SHERIFF.

THIS BRINGS US TO, WE ARE GOING TO, WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF AGENDA ITEM 22.

WE'RE GOING TO SKIP AGENDA ITEM 23

[24. CONSENT AGENDA]

AND JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM 24 A THROUGH J.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, I'LL SECOND THAT.

GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

M**K, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

[25. PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS/DISPOSITIONS]

THAT PASSES

[02:35:01]

FIVE TO ZERO.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 25, PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS, DISPOSITION, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE FOLLOWING PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS, A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION TRANSFER 2010 FORWARD, F-150, TRUCK B, ROAD AND BRIDGE TRANSFER TO SURPLUS 2012 PETERBILT, DUMP TRUCK AND C, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TO PURCHASE FROM CAPITAL OUTLAY A SCRAP HOPPER AT A QUOTED COST OF $750.

THERE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT, WELL I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS, DISPOSITIONS A THROUGH C.

SECOND, GOT MY MOTION, GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE.

US TO APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS AND PAYROLL.

AND THAT BRINGS

[27. APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL(S)]

I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT PAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $625,132 AND 15 CENTS, AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES.

NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

I ALSO SUBMIT TO THE COURT UNPAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $913,752 AND 31 CENTS.

AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MLU SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GUANO.

IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

I'M SUBMITTING TO YOU A PAYROLL REPORT FOR THE PAY PERIOD ENDING APRIL 26TH, 2025 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,124,803 AND 30 CENTS.

AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.

SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

STACY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

[30. COMMISSIONERS COURT REPORTS]