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IT IS 9:00 AM JUNE 11TH, 2025.
WE ARE AT THE ROCKWALL COUNTY STORE COURTHOUSE.
CONTINUING OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS.
I'M GONNA ROLL RIGHT INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.
THE PUBLIC FORUM IS THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COURT ABOUT ANY COUNTY MATTERS.
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, THEY CAN COME FORWARD NOW SEEING NO ONE.
WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, DISCUSSION
[2. Discussion of FY2026 Budget, and all related issues; (Judge New)]
OF FY 2026, BUDGET AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.UH, UP FIRST IS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
MR. JARED ROSSON, TAKE IT AWAY.
UH, JUST WANTED TO START OFF BY SAYING, I BECAME THE LEADER OF THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN 2021, AND SINCE THAT TIME, OUR DEPARTMENT HAS TRANSITIONED FROM A REACTIONARY ENTITY THAT WAS WAITING FOR SOMETHING SOMEDAY TO HAPPEN.
TO BEING A VERY PROACTIVE AGENCY THAT CONSTANTLY STRIVES TO FIND WAYS TO BETTER PREPARE ROCKWALL COUNTY TO RESPOND TO AND RECOVER FROM ANY INCIDENT OR DISASTER.
I CAN SUPPORT THIS POSITION THROUGH DATA-DRIVEN METRICS.
MOST EM OFFICES PARTICIPATE IN A DISASTER ONCE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.
THIS YEAR, OUR OFFICE HAS PARTICIPATED IN EIGHT.
OUR OFFICE PROVIDES EMERGENCY MESSAGING TO 53,000 CITIZENS.
TO PUT THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE, OUR TWO LARGEST NEWS AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY, ROCKWELL HERALD BANNER AND BLUE RIBBON NEWS, REACH APPROXIMATELY 12,000 PEOPLE AND 18,000 PEOPLE PROSPECTIVELY.
WE ARE ONE OF THE ONLY EM OFFICES THAT HOLDS A YEARLY EXERCISE FOR ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS TO COME TOGETHER AND PRACTICE COORDINATING RESPONSE TO COMPLEX EMERGENCIES.
AND WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING ALL OF THIS DURING A TIME WHEN EVERYONE IS CLAMORING TO SEE MORE EFFICIENCY IN GOVERNMENT, AND A WORLD TRYING TO MINIMIZE MAN HOURS AND STRETCH SUPPLY CHAINS TO THE MOST EXTREME, IT IS EASY TO SEE HOW HAVING ADDITIONAL STAFF AND EQUIPMENT TO RESPOND TO A DISASTER COULD BE A NEGATIVE.
I WOULD CHALLENGE THAT ASSUMPTION WITH MY FINAL HIGHLIGHT.
IN THE LAST YEAR, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAD A TOTAL COST TO THE CITIZENS OF ROCKWELL COUNTY OF 330,000 IN THE SAME YEAR THROUGH OUR OWN GRANT WORKS, AND BECAUSE OF OPPORTUNITIES WE OPENED UP TO THE COUNTY, THE CITIZENS OF ROCKWELL COUNTY RECEIVED $668,000.
THIS RESULTED IN A NET POSITIVE OF APPROXIMATELY 338,000.
I WOULD CHALLENGE ANYONE TO TELL ME WHAT COULD BE MORE EFFICIENT IN GOVERNMENT THAN A PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT THAT ACTUALLY CREATES REVENUE.
ALL OF THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE WE ARE ABLE TO HIRE AND TRAIN HIGHLY EDUCATED, MOTIVATED, AND SKILLED STAFF.
I COME BEFORE YOU HOLDING A MASTER'S DEGREE, A MASTERPIECE OFFICER LICENSE, AND HAVING ATTENDED MORE THAN OR ATTENDED 102 EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIFIC COURSES.
MY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST, LLOYD, HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE, A MASTER'S DEGREE EQUIVALENT MANAGEMENT CERTIFICATE, A CAREER WORTH OF EXPERIENCE AS AN ADMINISTRATOR WITH ROY CITY, ISD.
AND HAVING ATTENDED APPROXIMATELY 90 EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COURSES, MY DEPUTY, WHICH LEAVES NEXT WEEK, MOVES ON TO BEGIN HIS CAREER AS AN EMERGENT OR AS A CITY MANAGER.
SO, I COME TO YOU BEFORE TODAY WITH A SIMPLE REQUEST, DO NOT REDUCE OUR BUDGET SO THAT WE LOSE THE EFFICIENCY THAT WE HAVE, UH, WORKED SO HARD TO ACHIEVE.
AND WITH THAT JUDGE, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UM, I, I DO WANNA, UH, PUT AN ASTERISK OF, OF THE EIGHT EMERGENCIES THIS YEAR.
UH, WE PARTICIPATE IN OTHER COUNTIES AND CITIES, EMERGENCIES.
WE'VE NOT HAD EIGHT HERE, WHICH WE'VE NOT HAD EIGHT IN ROCKWELL COUNTY.
WE'VE BEEN, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I'M VERY PROUD OF, IS HOW MUCH WE HAVE.
WE DID HAVE ONE DISASTER IN ROCKWELL COUNTY WITH THE WINDSTORM LAST MAY.
HOWEVER, WE'VE BEEN TRAVELING AROUND HELPING OTHER COUNTIES, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, BRINGING THAT KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE BACK TO ROCKWELL COUNTY TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T MAKE MISTAKES THAT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW OTHERWISE WOULD BE OUT THERE.
SO I'M, I'M A A ADVOCATE AND A FAN OF THAT.
AND IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORBID TO GO PARTICIPATE IN OTHER PEOPLE'S DISASTER, BUT THEY NEED THE HELP.
UH, WE, WE GO VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME, UH, TEEM, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PAYS FOR US TO GO, PAYS FOR OUR MILEAGE.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY PAY FROM THE TIME WE GET IN THE TRUCK TO WE, WE BRING IT BACK AND PARK IT BACK IN THE PARKING LOT.
UM, AND, AND JARED HAS BROUGHT BACK SOME VALUABLE INFORMATION.
HE WENT TO NORTH CAROLINA LAST YEAR, UH, AND, AND HELPED THERE.
AND, UH, WE DO A DEBRIEF AND, AND I SAID, WHAT? YOU KNOW, TELL ME WHAT YOU LEARNED THERE.
AND IT WAS JUST SIMPLE THINGS THAT YOU NEVER THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN EMERGENCY, UH, ONE OF WHICH IS TO HAVE A SET TIME TO ADDRESS THE MEDIA.
AND, AND, AND YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO SIMPLE.
YOU DON'T EVER THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT MEDIA WILL JUST CIRCLE YOU
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AND REALLY CLOG UP THE ARTERIES AND GET IN THE WAY.BUT IF YOU SAY, AT 11 O'CLOCK EVERY DAY, WE'RE GONNA MEET AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE, THE MOST RELEVANT UPDATED INFORMATION.
UH, SO JUST SIMPLE BLOCKING AND TACKLING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO TELL, TELL, TELL THIS, JARED, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU DO IN A LITTLE BIT OF A TRICK QUESTION, WHAT DO YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS AT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT? THAT IS A DIFFICULT QUESTION BECAUSE IT CHANGES SO MUCH.
UH, SO HONESTLY, DAY TO DAY, IF NOTHING, NOTHING POPS UP.
UH, OUR BIGGEST TASK THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS YEAR IS UPDATING OUR HAZARD MITIGATION ACTION PLAN.
THIS IS ABOUT 177 PAGE DOCUMENT.
THE BENEFIT OF THIS PLAN IS IT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE COUNTY TO HAVE AN APPROVED PLAN, AS WELL AS ALL OF, AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR CITIES.
STUFF THAT'S NOT EVEN TIED INTO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, REQUIRES HAVING AN APPROVED HAZARD MITIGATION ACTION PLAN.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY, FOR THE PAST YEAR, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TDO WEEKLY ON TRYING TO GET APPROVED.
LIKE I SAID, OTHER THAN KIND OF RUN OF THE MILL PAPERWORK LIKE THAT, THERE'S LITTLE PROBLEMS THAT POP UP THAT THIS YEAR, UH, MEASLES BECAME A HOT WORD FOR A HOT MINUTE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU HAVE THESE PROBLEMS, INITIALLY, UH, ESPECIALLY HERE IN ROCKWELL COUNTY, OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES REGION TWO DASH THREE IN ARLINGTON.
AND, BUT WHENEVER A DOCTOR IN ROCKWALL, GOOGLES ROCKWALL COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, MY DESK NUMBER COMES UP WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
AND SO WE FILLED THESE QUESTIONS OF, HEY, WHERE DO I, WHERE DO I SEND EITHER MEASLES RESULTS OR WHERE CAN I SEND SOMEBODY TO GO GET TESTED? AND THAT'S WHERE OUR OFFICE STEPS IN AND HELPS WITH THESE UNIQUE PROBLEMS. UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN FOR, IF WE HAVE THE TIME AND BANDWIDTH TO ASSIST ANY OF THE COUNTIES.
SO DID SOME EXTRA PROJECTS, LIKE SOME OF THE SURVEYS THAT WERE DONE FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
AND JUDGE, IF I MAY, LET ME, LET ME ADD TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WE ALSO OVERSEE THE AMBULANCE CONTRACT FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, PERFORMANCE, UH, METRICS THAT NEED TO BE KEPT AND UPDATING WITH THAT, JUST FOLLOWING ALONG WITH THAT CONTRACT, AND AS WELL AS ADDRESSING ANY RESIDENT COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS.
SO IF ANYONE HAS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE AMBULANCE SYSTEM, UH, THAT COMES TO US, AND THEN WE REVIEW IT.
AND THAT CAN TAKE A LOT OF, JUST DEPENDING UPON WHAT THE COMPLAINT IS, CAN TAKE A LOT OF MAN HOURS INVESTIGATING AND THEN WORKING TO RESOLVE ANY ISSUES.
AND, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, JUST THE OVERALL MONITORING OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THAT CONTRACT.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL GRANTS THAT WE ADMINISTER THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND THERE'S CONSTANT, AND WE WORK WITH LISA A LOT.
THEY REQUIRE CONSTANT, UH, UPDATING AND REPORTING.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO HAVE SOME EXTRA BANDWIDTH DUE TO THAT, DUE TO THAT THIRD PERSON TO BE ABLE TO THEN GO OUT OF OUR WAY TO FIND OTHER GRANTS THAT WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY GOTTEN BEFORE.
UM, SUCH AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, TRAILER, UM, UH, GRANT SURVEILLANCE TRAILER.
SOLAR, SOLAR SURVEILLANCE TRAILER.
AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, GENERATOR GRANT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH, UH, TEDOM AND THEN FEMA SO FAR.
AND SO THAT WILL BE FOR OVER A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A GENERATORS FOR THE CRITICAL FACILITIES.
AND SO THOSE AREN'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, NORMAL RUN OF THE MILL GRANTS.
THOSE ARE LIKE, HEY, WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY COMES UP, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SEE IT AND WE JUMP ON IT.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ADDED THAT AS WELL.
WELL, AND SINCE WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING OUR GRANTS, ALSO THE LOCAL EMERGENCY PLANNING COMMITTEE IS ANOTHER GROUP THAT WE CHAIR, UH, HELPS OUT ALL OF OUR CITI, ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, ALL OF OUR CITIES, KNOWING WHICH HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS ARE STORED THERE.
AND WE'RE ALSO SEEKING, AND Y'ALL JUST APPROVED THE CONTRACT YESTERDAY FOR THE LEPC GRANT.
SO TELL ME, UM, LLOYD, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE SAFETY, UH, SAFETY OFFICER, IS THAT CORRECT? OR? IT'S, IT'S CALLED THE LEADING QUESTION.
I WOULD DO THE FACT THAT IT'S A LEADING QUESTION, I WOULD GO, WHY? YES,
SO TELL ME, WE, WE, WE GOT THREE, THREE DIFFERENT, WE HAVE A COORDINATOR, WE HAVE AN ASSISTANT COORDINATOR TO TELL ME YOUR POSITION, LLOYD.
WHAT? UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S THE EM SPECIALIST.
AND SO, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I DO IS, UH, CHAIR THE LEPC COMMITTEE AND WORK WITH THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.
AND WE CAME UP WITH WHAT WE WERE GONNA ASK, UH, THE LEPC FOLKS FOR, BASED ON WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS NEEDED.
UH, I ALSO, WE JUST GOT FINISHED THE HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN, AND THAT'S FINALLY PASSED TEEMS MUSTER.
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ONCE THEY KICK IT UP TO AUSTIN, THEN THEY'RE SENDING IT OFF TO FEMA TO SEE WHAT THAT IS.UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I ALSO DO IS KEEPING UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
LIKE, UH, ROYCE CITY HAD THAT FIRE AT THE POWER SUBSTATION, SO I WAS COMMUNICATING WITH, UH, TANNER, 'CAUSE THAT CROSSED TWO OF MY, UH, JOBS, LEPC, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME THOSE TRANSFORMERS, WHEN THEY CATCH FIRE, PUT NASTY STUFF.
AND TANNER ASSURED ME THIS WAS JUST MINERAL OIL.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE, UH, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PART OF IT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I DO.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'LL ASK WITH THE GRANTS, UM, WHAT IS TYPICALLY THE LIFE LIFESPAN OF SOME OF THE GRANTS? LIKE, LIKE, LIKE IF YOU ASK FOR A GRANT AND YOU'RE GRANTED ONE FROM AN ORGANIZATION, WHAT'S THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU TO ASK FOR SOMETHING? ANOTHER ONE, IS THAT LIKE EVERY FIVE YEARS OR WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO THERE'S NO, THE ONLY GRANT THAT WE HAVE THAT IS REOCCURRING YEARLY IS OUR CITY'S READINESS INITIATIVE GRANT.
CRI, UH, THE REST OF THESE ARE ALL ONE-TIME GRANTS, AND THERE ISN'T A POINT OF YOU RECEIVED FUNDING LAST YEAR, YOU AREN'T GONNA RECEIVE FUNDING AGAIN THIS YEAR.
AND THEN, UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S, UM, ASSISTS YOU FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT, UM, IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AS WELL? NO, MA'AM.
AND, UM, THEN TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR ROLE WITH, UM, THE, THE, THE TEXT.
WE GET THE NIXLE TEXT THAT WE GET.
WHAT, HOW DOES THAT, WHAT, HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHICH, WHICH ONES YOU'RE GOING TO, TO SHARE WITH THE, WITH THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP FOR IT AND, AND HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS? ALRIGHT, SO, UM, OUR NEX LITTLE EMERGENCY ALERTS, UH, THEY WORK TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
ONE, ALL OF OUR WEATHER INFORMATION IS AUTOMATICALLY RE-BROADCAST BY THE NATIONAL, OR WHEN THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RE ISSUE A WATCH OR A WARNING, THAT GETS AUTOMATICALLY RE-BROADCAST.
THE ONLY CAVEAT I HAVE THERE IS OUR WARNINGS.
WE, OR OUR WATCHES, EXCUSE ME, OUR WATCHES ARE ONLY RE-BROADCAST DURING THE DAY.
WE STOP AT 10:00 PM AND START AGAIN AT 7:00 AM BECAUSE THOSE, A WATCH IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN, A WARNING OF SOMETHING IS HAPPENING.
AND SO THE, THE WARNINGS ARE BROADCAST 24 7.
THE REST OF THE INFORMATION, IT'S UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE STAFF OF WHEN TO SEND SOMETHING OUT.
NOW WE SEND OUT INFORMATION ANYTIME THAT IT'S REQUESTED BY ONE OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE MAY HELP THEM STRUCTURING THAT MESSAGE.
UH, BUT MOST RECENT ONE IS I GOT A CALL 2:00 AM ON SUNDAY MORNING THAT, HEY, 30 IS GONNA BE CLOSED.
AND THAT WAS AFTER A VERY BUSY NIGHT THAT I KNOW WE WERE SENDING OUT A LOT OF MESSAGING BECAUSE OF ALL THE STORM GOING ON.
I MADE THE DECISION 2:00 AM ON 30, YOU KNOW, POSTED THAT TO OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT DIDN'T ACTUALLY PUSH THAT THROUGH OUR N EXCEL SERVICE.
I WOULD SAY, I, ESPECIALLY AS I WAS GROWING THE SERVICE, I WAS VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT HOW MUCH MESSAGING I WAS PUSHING OUT.
AND THE MORE THAT I WOULD ACTUALLY SURVEY OUR CITIZENS AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU WANNA RECEIVE? HOW MUCH DO YOU WANNA RECEIVE? RESOUNDING FEEDBACK THAT I GOT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT MORE, UNLESS IT'S, YOU KNOW, A SMALL ROAD CLOSED AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, WE WANT TO RECEIVE THIS INFORMATION FROM THE COUNTY.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING.
DID YOU WERE, HAD, HAD YOU SEEN THAT WE HAD DROPPED, WE HAD PEOPLE THAT DROPPED FROM THE SERVICE BECAUSE THEY MAYBE FELT LIKE THEY WERE GETTING, GETTING TOO MUCH.
AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THEY'RE TELLING YOU THEY, THEY WANT AS MUCH AS YOU WANNA PROVIDE THEM WITH? YES, MA'AM.
TELL ME, WE HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION, BUT TELL ME ABOUT YOUR SUCCESS RATE WITH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT YOUR PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE SIGNING UP FOR THE SERVICE VERSUS OTHER PLACES.
SO THIS YEAR I WAS ACTUALLY ASKED TO SPEAK AT THE TEUM CONFERENCE IN FORT WORTH, UH, ABOUT OUR SUCCESS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH NEXEL HERE IN ROCKWALL COUNTY.
AND QUICKLY, TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, OUR VENDOR, EVERBRIDGE ACTUALLY WAS GIVING A PRESENTATION BEFORE ON THIS EXACT SAME TOPIC OF HOW TO GET PEOPLE TO OPT INTO YOUR MESSAGING.
AND THEY SAID, YOU'LL NEVER SEE HIGHER THAN 20%.
IT'S IF YOU HIT 20%, GOOD JOB MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, THAT'S THE HIGHEST YOU'LL EVER SEE.
AND SO A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWED UP TO MINE TO ACTUALLY SAY, HOW DID YOU GET TO 40 WHEN YOUR VENDOR IS SAYING THAT THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
AND TO TAKE IT EVEN A STEP FURTHER AND HIGHLIGHT THE ACTUAL IMPORTANCE OF THIS, NOT JUST TO GET THAT MESSAGING OUT ABOUT SEVERE WEATHER AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO QUICKLY MOBILIZE OUR CITIZENS IN ROCKWALL COUNTY, UNLIKE OTHER PLACES, I'LL NEVER FORGET A DAY DURING COVID, WHEN WE HAD FIRST STARTED DOING OUR TESTING SITES AND THEY WERE BEING RUN BY THE NATIONAL GUARD RAN INTO A GUARDSMAN THAT INSTEAD OF THE REGULAR, WE'RE
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GONNA DO A HUNDRED CITIZENS A DAY.HE SAID, I'LL TEST EVERYONE YOU CAN GET HERE TODAY.
AND WHEN I HIT GO, WE HAD 2000 PEOPLE SHOW UP THAT DAY WITH NO PREVIOUS WARNING TO GET, YOU KNOW, SWABBED IN THE NOSE, WHICH IS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE,
SO I FEEL LIKE IF I CAN GET 2000 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP TO GET PUNCHED IN THE NOSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN MOBILIZE OUR CITIZENS DURING A TIME OF DISASTER TO REALLY BE A BIG BENEFIT.
AND THEN JUST ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, I KNOW THAT I THINK IT WAS TWO IN 2023, YOU, YOU RE REQUESTED A, UM, AS FAR AS A CAPITAL OUTLAY, YOU REQUESTED A NEW TRUCK, I BELIEVE.
AND, AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING, ANY OTHER CAPITAL OUTLAYS ON THIS, ON THIS BUDGET REQUEST THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THE ONLY CAPITAL OUTLAY IS WE WE'RE ACTUALLY OFFICED OUT OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH A NEW RENOVATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST APPROXIMATELY $6,000.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO PURCHASE SOME NEW DESK DESK CHAIRS AND FURNITURE.
UH, CURRENTLY WE SCRIMPED AND SCAVENGED FROM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TO HAVE OUR OFFICE FURNITURE.
I THINK IT WOULD REALLY BE A GOOD BOOST TO MORALE WITH A NEW BUILDING TO ALSO HAVE, UH, NEW FURNITURE GO ALONG WITH IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, FIRST OF ALL, I ABSOLUTELY COMMEND YOU FOR THE JOB YOU DO.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PROACTIVE APPROACH AND YOUR CONCERN FOR OUR COUNTY AND OUR RESIDENTS.
EVERY TIME IT RAINS, I DON'T NEED TO HEAR ABOUT IT.
BUT YOU GUYS ARE DOING A FABULOUS JOB AND, UM, YOU HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION FOR US AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING OUT, AS YOU SAID, GETTING MONEY AND BRINGING IT IN.
THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE BENEFIT.
I DO HAVE, UH, I THINK TWO QUESTIONS.
UM, HOW MANY VEHICLES DO YOU GUYS HAVE? WE HAVE THREE VEHICLES.
AND THE ONE JUST CAME LAST YEAR.
WHAT'S THAT? ONE OF 'EM WAS JUST ADDED LAST YEAR.
BECAUSE I NOTICED A BIG JUMP IN ONE OF YOUR LINE ITEMS, WHICH FRANKLY I WAS SURPRISED.
AUTO INSURANCE, DO WE PUT THAT ON, EVERYBODY GETS AUTO INSURANCE OR IS THAT LIKE A COUNTY DEAL? SO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS A, IS A SPECIAL FUND.
UH, THAT'S WHY WE CODE IT TO THEM.
UH, THE REVENUE THAT IS EARNED, UH, I MEAN THE REVENUE THAT SUPPORTS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS NOT SOLELY FUNDED BY THE COUNTY.
UH, THE COUNTY FUNDS 50% OF THEIR BUDGET AND THE CITIES PAY IN AND FUND THE OTHER 50%.
SO TO, TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE ALL OF THE EXPENSES OF THAT FUND, THAT'S WHY IT'S DETAILED IN THEIR BUDGET SOLELY, ORDINARILY, WE PAY INSURANCE AS A LUMP SUM IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTAL VEHICLE VEHICLES.
AND YOU'RE GETTING THREE CARS INSURED FOR $3,600 A YEAR.
THAT, UH, IS PROBABLY BECAUSE WE, UH, HAVE SO MANY THINGS INSURED THAT IT'S A REDUCED RATE.
I'M SAYING I'D LOVE TO GET YOUR NAME OF YOUR INSURANCE AGENT.
IT'S THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES RISK POOL CAN INSURE ME.
THEY, THEY CANNOT, AND YOU CANNOT USE OUR BUYING POWER TO BUY VEHICLES EITHER.
UH, SO
AND THEN WHEN YOU SAY WE HAVE THREE IN YOUR, THAT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER MONTH PER CAR, WHICH IS PRETTY CHEAP, PRETTY GOOD RATE, I THINK.
OVERALL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE INSURE SO MUCH WITH, WITH, UH, TAC THAT THAT'S WHY I'M SURE THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SMALL AMOUNT THAT WE APPORTION TO, TO THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THE, THE WHOLE BUDGET COSTS, UH, 300, 358.
SO ROUGHLY 360,000 FUNDS, ALL OF THIS, WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE SPEAKING OF, UH, FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN THE COUNTY SUPPORTS IT WITH $179,369.
AND THEN THE CITY IS PAYING ONE LITTLE CAVEAT.
THE 358 IS ALSO ACCOUNTING FOR ALL OF OUR FUNDING FROM CRA BECAUSE THAT WAS ADDED IN TO OUR BUDGET.
SO, UH, TOTAL COST OF THE COUNTY IS ACTUALLY 3 29, NOT 3 58.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE FY 25 BUDGET.
'CAUSE I THINK, DON'T WE HAVE CRI AND ANOTHER FUND? WE DID, BUT WE DIDN'T ADD CRI TO THE ACTUAL BUDGETS UNTIL JUDGE NEW ARRIVED.
SO IF SOMEBODY LOOKS AT THAT, THEY MIGHT SEE A BIG INCREASE ON THAT YEAR TO CITY READINESS INITIATIVE.
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OKAY.SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THE EXISTING DEPUTY COORDINATORS LEAVING TO GET A JOB AS A, YOU SAID CITY MANAGER? YES SIR.
UM, AND THE SPECIALIST IS GOING TO BE ADVANCED FROM THAT INTO THE DEPUTY COORDINATOR SALARY.
UM, AND YOU'RE PROPOSING, IS THERE A RANGE FOR THAT SALARY BAN? DO YOU HAVE AS FAR AS YOUR, UM, I KNOW LIKE A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S RANGE, WE'LL PAY FOR A CERTAIN JOB BETWEEN 60 AND 95.
THERE IS, AND THAT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSS MORE AFTER WE RECEIVED THE CAD DATA.
SO HE WAS PROMOTED AND THE RATE THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO, UH, PAY HIM AT WITHOUT FURTHER COMMISSIONER COURT APPROVAL IS 71,377.
UH, I THINK LLOYD'S WORTH A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
SO, LIKE I SAID, MAY HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY KEEP IT CLOSE.
SO IS 71 7, YOU SAID THAT'S THE BOTTOM OF THE RANGE? YES, SIR.
ACTUALLY THE BOTTOM OF THE RANGE IS 6 6 8 7 5.
BUT WITH A PROMOTION, OUR EMPLOYEES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A 10% INCREASE AS LONG AS IT IS IT WITHIN THE CORRECT RANGE AND DOES NOT EXCEED BUDGETED FUNDS.
AND WHAT'S THE TOP OF THE RANGE? TOP OF THE RANGE IS 99 1 3 2 FOR THE DEPUTY COURT.
AND WHILE WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT, ALSO ON MY INITIAL, UH, DRAFT THAT I SUBMITTED, I PUT THE SPECIALIST SALARY IS 55,000.
UH, NOW THAT CAN'T I'VE BEEN PROVI.
SO THE LOWEST THAT RANGE ALLOWS IS ACTUALLY 58,850.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO ADJUST THAT.
UM, THEN I, I THINK THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION.
UM, YOU HAVE TRAVEL, NOT, IT GOES UP ON, THIS IS LINE ITEM 500 ON THE BUDGET TRAVEL GOES UP ALMOST 30%.
UM, BUT IN SIGNIFICANTLY IT INCREASES SIGNIFICANTLY FROM YOUR YEAR TO DATE TRAVEL AND ALSO TRAVEL IN PRIOR YEARS.
AND I, I'M, IS THAT TRAVEL TO OTHER DISASTERS WE GET REIMBURSED FOR? OR WHAT IS THAT? NO, SIR.
SO THIS TRAVEL AND TRAINING LINE ITEM IS ACTUALLY THE FUNDS THAT WE USE TO HOLD OUR FULL SCALE EXERCISE EACH YEAR.
UH, THE WAY THAT WE CREATED THAT AMOUNT WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE HELD THE FULL SCALE ACTIVE SHOOTER EXERCISE OUT AT THE SCHOOL HERE IN ROCKWALL.
UH, WE WENT TO ALL OF OUR, UH, DEPARTMENTS AND ASKED THEM HOW MUCH WOULD IT HAVE COST YOU TO ACTUALLY SEND, UH, TO PAY FOR THE TIME FOR ALL OF YOUR OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS TO COME AND PARTICIPATE.
SO THAT WAY WE MADE THIS REQUEST TO EMERGENCY SERVICES CORPORATION TO HAVE FUNDING TO PAY THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE POLICE OFFICERS.
SO THAT WAY AS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS A YEARLY AND A CONTINUAL EXERCISE, IT WOULDN'T BECOME A HURDLE FOR OUR DEPARTMENTS TO SAY, NO, WE CAN'T PARTICIPATE THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR IT IN OUR TRAINING BUDGET.
WE CAN ACTUALLY REIMBURSE THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS FOR THE TIME THAT THEY SPENT AT THIS EXERCISE.
WE'VE HAD SOME DEPARTMENTS TAKE US UP ON IT AND SOME OF THEM HAVEN'T.
AND SO THIS HAS ALSO BECOME THE FUND THAT WE PURCHASED, THE SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT.
UH, A LOT OF IT'S DURABLE GOODS.
SO LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID OUR EXERCISE, THE DEPARTMENTS INDICATED WE HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY LEFT IN OUR TRAINING BUDGETS.
SO WE ACTUALLY PURCHASED A LOT OF EQUIPMENT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHICH IS NOW USED IN THEIR NEW TRAINING FACILITY IN THE OLD SALLY PORT.
SO THEY WERE ABLE TO BUILD THE SALLY PORT.
WE ACTUALLY PROVIDED THE EQUIPMENT THAT NOW THEY'RE STILL USING.
SO THE TRAVEL BUDGET IN HERE, THAT'S, YOU HAVE LISTED AT $20,812, SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT REALLY TRAVEL.
SO THE, THE LINE ITEM IS FOR TRAVEL AND TRAINING AND YES, SIR.
MY, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, UH, IT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S LINE ITEM 6 8 0 DASH 500 520,000.
IT DOESN'T SAY TRAVEL AND TRAINING.
THIS IS WHY YOUR BOOK'S BETTER THAN MINE.
WHERE ARE YOU AT? OH YEAH, YOU'RE IN THE CITY READINESS GRANT.
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FUND.AND THE REASON IT SITS AT THAT IS BECAUSE CRI, UH, WE, MY APOLOGIES.
IT, THE REASON THAT LINE ITEM INCREASED IS EACH YEAR, THIS IS REALLY THE FUNDS THAT OUR OFFICE USES TO BUY SUPPLIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UH, WE HAVE TO PROPOSE A BUDGET TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND TELL THEM EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GONNA PURCHASE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PENS AND PAPER AND GAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT I'M GONNA NEED THAT WILL ALSO FIT INTO THAT CRI REQUIREMENT.
SO I PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO TRAVEL AND TRAINING LINE ITEM, AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS OUT OF IT AND PURCHASING OUR SUPPLIES.
WELL, MY APOLOGIES FOR GOING DOWN A RABBIT TRAIL THERE.
WELL, AND, AND IT, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS ALLOWS US TO DO, BACK TO THE ACTIVE SHOOTER TRAINING, THAT WAS REAL WORLD TRAINING.
SO IT'S, IT'S, UH, MORE EFFICIENT WHEN YOU HAVE SCHEDULED PLAN WHERE WE ALL SIT HERE, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
THAT'S NOT INDICATIVE OF REAL WORLD.
REAL WORLD IS SOMETHING HAPPENS ON A TUESDAY AT AT ONE 15, AND NOW WE'RE SCRAMBLING.
SO THAT, THAT ALLOWS US TO ACTUALLY HAVE A TRAINING.
UH, WE SET AT THAT ACTIVE TRAINER SHOOTING, AND IF WE GAVE THE OFFICERS AND WE, BEING JARED AND HIS TEAM REALLY NO, NO INSTRUCTIONS.
I MEAN, THIS WAS A REAL WORLD SHOW UP AND THEN JUST HANDLE THIS, HOW YOU WOULD HANDLE IT.
UH, AND, AND, UH, SO WE COULD GET SOME REAL WORLD, WHERE ARE WE, WHERE DO WE NEED TO IMPROVE? WHERE, WHERE ARE WE STRONG? UH, AND IT WAS, IT WAS SOMETHING TO WATCH, UH, ALL, ALL THE AGENCIES, YOU KNOW, FLIPPED THE SWITCH AND SAID, ALL RIGHT, IT'S GO TIME.
THERE'S AN ACTIVE SHOOTER, UM, CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULD SUSPECT TAKE THE LEAD, DID TAKE THE LEAD, UH, OTHER PEOPLE FELL BACK IN A SUPPORTIVE ROLE.
I MEAN, HAD A HUGE DEBRIEF AFTERWARDS OF WHAT WENT RIGHT, WHAT WENT WRONG.
UH, AND THEN FROM THERE YOU CAN GO TO TABLETOP DISCUSSIONS AND OTHER EFFICIENCIES.
BUT THIS GRANT ALLOWS US TO, IT WOULD BE EASY FOR AN ENTITY TO SAY, I, I, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET BECAUSE AS LISA HAS POINTED OUT BEFORE, YOU CAN'T SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING YOU'VE NOT BUDGETED FOR.
SAME WAY AT THE CITIES, UH, THEY, THEY COULD SAY, WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET FOR IT.
AND, AND THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO SAY, WE CAN COMPENSATE YOUR GUYS FOR PARTICIPATING.
UM, AND I, I'M, I'M A BIG FAN OF THAT KIND OF TRAINING.
I, I WAS AT THE COMMAND CENTER, SO I WASN'T AT WHERE THE ACTIVE SHOOTER EXERCISE WAS HAPPENING, BUT JUST BEING ON THE ACT ON THE, IN THE COMMAND CENTER, I GOT TO WITNESS THE, THE, THE PRE-PLANNING AND, AND THE STRATEGIES THAT THEY WERE, THAT THEY WERE DOING, AND HOW THEY WERE COMMUNICATING WITH THE FOLKS THAT WERE AT THE SCHOOL WITH AN ACTIVE SHOOTER, UM, EXERCISE BEING, BEING TAKEN ON.
AND IT WAS VERY, IT WAS VERY, IT WAS, IT MADE ME AS A COMMISSIONER FOR THE COM FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR CITIZENS KNOW THAT WE HAD, WE HAD PLANNED, WE HAD A PLAN.
'CAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU FAIL TO PLAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PLAN TO FAIL, YOU FAIL.
IT WAS, IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR ME.
UM, I'M ASKING YOU TO PREDICT THE FUTURE.
UH, I GOT THE CRYSTAL BALL OUT.
AT LEAST THE MAGIC EIGHT BALL.
UH, WHAT, WHAT'S THE MARKET FOR, UH, EM SPECIALIST? UM, I, I, IF, IF WE OPEN THIS POSITION AND SAY, YES, WE'RE GONNA FILL IT.
LLOYD'S STEPPING UP NOW, WE HAVE A VACANCY THERE, BUT, UH, WHAT, WHAT IS THE EM SPECIALIST WORLD LIKE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW? SO THE EM SPECIALIST ROLE IS, THE MARKET'S GONNA BE VERY GOOD.
UH, WE ARE GONNA BE, WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE IN NORTH TEXAS.
WE HAVE TWO UNIVERSITIES THAT HAVE, UH, BACHELOR'S DEGREES IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
THEY'RE CALLED MULTIPLE THINGS.
BUT WE BASICALLY HAVE A COUPLE HUNDRED NEW GRADUATES EACH YEAR FIGHTING FOR A COUPLE OF POSITIONS.
SO I THINK EVEN IF WE WENT TOWARDS THE LOWER PORTION OF THE SALARY OF THE 58,000, WE WOULD STILL GET VERY GOOD CANDIDATES FOR THAT POSITION.
THE BIG THING THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS THIRD POSITION IS THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT EFFECTIVELY WE HAVE TO TRAIN AND HAVE TO TEACH THEM.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A DEGREE, THEY HAVE, THEY KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF THE VOCABULARY.
NOW WE HAVE TO TEACH THEM ACTUALLY HOW TO MAKE IT PRACTICAL AND PUT IT INTO SERVICE.
UH, BUT AFTER WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, NOW WE HAVE,
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YOU KNOW, LLOYD, AS THE SPECIALIST HAS FOR THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, BEEN PERFORMING A LOT OF THE ROLES THAT A DEPUTY OR MORE SENIOR EMERGENCY MANAGER IS ACTUALLY ABLE TO FILL.AND HAVING THAT THIRD PERSON THERE ALLOWS US THE EXTRA MANPOWER DURING A DISASTER.
SO DURING OUR WINTER STORMS, WHEN WE GO TO 24 HOURS A DAY WITH A STAFF OF THREE, UH, YOU KNOW, MATT WOULD BE WORKING 6:00 PM TO 6:00 AM TO ENSURE THAT IF ANYBODY CALLED OUR OFFICE AND HAD A NEED, SOMEONE WAS ABLE TO ANSWER THE PHONE DURING THE DAY.
LLOYD AND I WORKING AS A TEAM, UH, LLOYD, REALLY HANDLING MORE OF THE PRACTICAL PROBLEMS, ALLOWING ME TO FREE UP MY TIME TO TRY TO FORESEE WHAT'S GONNA BE OUR NEXT PROBLEM TOMORROW, AND HOW CAN WE START SOLVING THAT TODAY TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THIS CONTINUES TO LOOK LIKE IT'S JUST SMOOTHLY AND SEAMLESSLY HAPPENING.
AND JUDGE, IF, IF I MAY, I MIGHT ALSO ADD THAT JARED, JARED HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF RUNNING AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THROUGH OUR OFFICE OF UNPAID INTERNS.
UM, SO WE HAVE KIND OF SOME INSIDE KNOWLEDGE ON SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE ABOUT TO GRADUATE, WHO WE WOULD BE THRILLED TO HAVE AND OTHERS WHO WE WOULD SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BUT, UH,
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S AN UNPAID INTERNSHIP THAT WE'VE PRETTY MUCH HAD CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT MY WHOLE, WHOLE TIME YEAR, KIND OF DEVELOPED YOUR MINOR LEAGUE TEAMS THAT CAN KIND OF DEVELOPED OUR MINOR LEAGUE TEAM.
AND SO I, I THINK THERE'S ALREADY SOME CANDIDATES, GOOD PROMISING CANDIDATES THAT MIGHT BE IN MIND THAT WE WOULD HOPE WOULD APPLY, AND SOME OTHER ONES THAT WE WOULD KNOW THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT FIT FOR US AS WELL.
WELL, ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES.
UM, ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE REMODEL, THERE IS AN INTENT TO HAVE FFNE.
SO YOU DON'T NEED TO ASK FOR THE $6,000 THAT'S, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PUT INTO THE REMODEL IN ORDER.
UM, IT'S EITHER GONNA HAPPEN OR IT'S NOT.
SO I'M JUST SAYING KEEP YOUR EYE OUT ON THAT.
HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COURT, WE WILL APPROVE FF AND E FOR THE SHERIFF REMODEL, AND THEN YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NEW FURNITURE.
WE ARE AWARE THAT IF WE REMODEL AN ENTIRE BUILDING AND THEN PUT PATCHWORK FURNITURE BACK IN, IT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DO.
UM, SO, UH, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF COORDINATION IN THAT, SO I KNOW YOU WEREN'T AWARE OF, OF THOSE EFFORTS.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I JUST WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER NOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN MEET WITH ME LATER OR, UH, OR SOMETHING, BUT WE, WE CURRENTLY NOW HAVE A STATE TEEM PERSON ON SITE.
UM, I, I KIND OF WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT COORDINATION ACTUALLY WORKS.
UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THIRD POSITION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND WHAT SORT OF EFFICIENCIES WE HAVE OR DON'T HAVE OR, OR HOW, HOW THAT WOULD WORK OR KIND OF MORE SPECIFICALLY THE CONCEPT OF, OF WHAT ARE WE REALLY LOSING.
UM, I, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN FULLY ARTICULATED IN THIS MEETING.
UM, AND SO I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO, TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
I, I JUST WOULD LIKE A LOT MORE INFORMATION ON IF THAT POSITION WASN'T FILLED, WHAT, WHAT IS LACKING AND, AND WHAT, WHAT IS THE STATE NOT DOING AND DOING WHILE, WHILE THEY'RE HERE.
UM, THAT RELATIONSHIP, IT'S PROBABLY A CONVERS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DETAILS.
YES, WE SHOULD DISCUSS MORE OFFLINE, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK SUMMARY BECAUSE WE, SO THE COUNTY LIAISON OFFICER ROLE AND POSITION WITH TDO IS VERY NEW.
AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EVER HAD THIS POSITION.
AND WHEN I SAY NEW, I MEAN THIS IS, AS IT'S ROLLING OUT ACROSS THE STATE, IT'S STILL VERY NEW.
AND THOSE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE BEING FORMED RIGHT NOW.
BUT IN OUR, UH, EXERCISE THAT WE HELD, UH, WITH, THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT WE JUST PARTICIPATED IN, I GOT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF HOW, HOW IS THIS ROLE GONNA WORK? WHEN I LOOKED AT MY CLO, AND ONE OF THE PROCESSES WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF DURING A DISASTER IS CALLED START REQUEST.
AND THAT'S JUST A FORM THAT WE HAVE TO FILL OUT AND SEND TO THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT SAYS, HEY, WE NEED THIS.
AND I WAS LIKE, MAN, FANTASTIC.
I'VE GOT A TIAM EMPLOYEE IN THE ROOM WITH ME NOW.
UH, COULD YOU TAKE CARE OF THE STAR REQUEST FOR ME AND FROM ON HIGH AT TEUM? THEY SAID, NO, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
AND I HAD TO KIND OF LIKE QUOTE MY HEAD AROUND AND BE LIKE, I CAN'T JUST LOOK AT YOU AND ASK YOU FOR THE THING ANYMORE.
I HAVE TO STILL, AND THEY SAID, HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOME HIGHER UPS AT TEDO THAT SAID, IF SHE'S NOT DOING ANYTHING IN A PINCH, YOU CAN USE HER.
BUT THIS IS A STATE EMPLOYEE AND WE DON'T WANT THE COUNTIES TO EXPECT THAT THIS PERSON'S GOING TO BE DOING COUNTY WORK.
THIS IS A STATE EMPLOYEE WHO'S GONNA BE PERFORMING TASKS FOR US.
AND SO THAT WAS THE QUICK ALL RIGHT.
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HOW, HOW MUCH I CAN KIND OF LEAN ON THIS EXTRA PERSON.SO THIS IS A STATE EMPLOYEE THAT WE OFFICE, UH, THERE ARE GONNA BE CONTINUED BENEFITS OF HAVING A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE, BUT I WOULDN'T PLAN ON BEING ABLE TO OFFSET COUNTY MAN HOURS WITH STATE EMPLOYEES.
UM, IF, I MEAN, AND WE ALWAYS VOLUNTEER, UH, TEUM IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY SOMEWHERE, THEY ASK FOR VOLUNTEERS OR WHO'S WILLING.
AND, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON HERE, I'VE, I'VE ENCOURAGED THE TEAM TO, TO RAISE THEIR HANDS AND LET'S GO GET THE EXPERIENCE.
OUR TEEM STAFF WOULDN'T LOOK TO US AND SAY, HEY, I NEED YOU TO FILL OUT THIS PAPERWORK IF IT DOESN'T DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE COUNTY.
SO WE, WE ARE, UM, SOMEWHAT OF A LANDLORD TENANT RELATIONSHIP, UH, BUT IT IS A RELATIONSHIP.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
WELL, UH, LET'S TAKE ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE WILL ROLL RIGHT INTO CONSTABLE FOUR.
LET'S CALL IT NINE FORTY FIVE.
ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING A COFFEE AND RESTROOM BREAK.
WE ARE GONNA ROLL RIGHT INTO CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR, MR. RANDY PARKS.
AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, LETTING ME GET HERE A LITTLE BIT EARLY.
UH, I ALL, I HANDED YOU OUT EACH, UH, A COPY OF SOMETHING HERE I WANTED TO GO OVER IF I COULD.
AND, UH, THEN I GUESS WE WILL AFTER THAT, WHAT, WILL WE GO OVER THE LINE ITEM? OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME BEFORE YOU TO LAY OUT MY BUDGET REQUEST TO YOU.
I AM COMING TO YOU ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR ROCKWELL COUNTY, RANDY ARROW PARKS ONLY FOR ME TODAY.
UH, FOR THESE REQUESTS, UH, THE BUDGET REQUEST I'M REQUESTING IS A FULL-TIME DEPUTY CONSTABLE.
I BELIEVE THAT MY STATS WILL SHOW THE DESPERATE NEED FOR THIS POSITION WITH THE INCREASED LOAD YEAR OVER YEAR.
THIS SHOULD FACILITATE, UH, THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL HELP.
THIS WILL PROVIDE THE NEEDED COVERAGE FOR COURTS VACATION, SICK TIME THAT ARE, UH, UNPREDICTABLE.
THE DEPUTY CONSTABLE POSITION WOULD ALSO PERFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL COUNTY PATROLS AND BACKING UP OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS AS NEEDED.
THIS POSITION I WAS LOOKING AT, POSSIBLY COULD BE FUNDED BY FUND 51 PUBLIC SAFETY SALES TAX FUND THAT I UNDERSTAND.
THIS NEW DEPUTY CONSTABLE POSITION WILL NOT ONLY HANDLE PRECINCT FOUR BUSINESS, BUT ALSO HELP WITH THE OTHER CONSTABLES PRECINCT ONE, TWO, AND THREE PRECINCTS AS NEEDED.
I'M ALSO REQUESTING A NEW VEHI VEHICLE.
UM, MY VEHICLE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR WILL, UH, BE EIGHT YEARS OLD AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
THE VEHICLE IS A, THAT I HAVE IS A 2019 TAHOE.
UM, AND PREDICT THAT I WILL HAVE CLOSE TO 80,000.
I'M NOT, IT'S HARD TO PREDICT BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
UH, THE MILEAGE ON MY CAR NOW IS JUST PRETTY CLOSE TO 64,000.
UM, MY CAR HAS THE HIGHEST MILEAGE BECAUSE I COVER MORE.
UM, AND IF I DID GET A CAR, UM, I WANNA BRING OUT THAT IT, IT TAKES UP TO A YEAR NOW TO GET A CAR.
SO THERE'LL BE, BE A BUNCH EXTRA MILEAGE PUT ON THIS CAR.
AND, UM, THE LAST THAT I HEARD, UH, THAT IT TOOK ABOUT A YEAR, UH, IF I'M ALLOWED A NEW DEPUTY CONSTABLE, THIS VEHICLE WILL TRANSITION TO THE NEW POSITION AND THE COUNTY WOULD NOT HAVE TO ALLOCATE AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE FOR THIS POSITION.
UH, NEXT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, DO YOU WANT ME JUDGE TO GO INTO THE LINE ITEM? WHAT THAT, HOW MUCH THAT CAR IS GONNA COST? YY YES, SIR.
LEMME JUMP OVER TO THAT REAL QUICK.
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OKAY.I TALKED TO KIMMY WITH HR AND SHE SO GLADLY HELPED ME WITH THIS, AND I SURE WAS GLAD.
UM, THE DEPUTY, FULL-TIME DEPUTY CONSTABLE, UH, THE SALARY 72 9, BUT WITH THE, UH, GROUP INSURANCE, RETIREMENT, WORKERS' COMP AND, AND, UH, UH, THE, SOME OF THE INSURANCE, UH, IT WOULD GO UP TO 99, 6 97.
UH, ALSO, UH, I WOULD NEED TO ADD ABOUT $5,700 TO THAT FOR A BADGE FOR THE CO FOR THE, UH, DEPUTY, UH, UNIFORMS IN A VEST AND, UH, OFFICE SUPPLIES.
SO THAT PUT IT AT 1 0 5, THE 3 97.
UH, DO, DO Y'ALL HAVE, UH, BODY CAMERAS FOR A DEPUTY CURRENTLY? YES.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE NEW CONSTABLE THAT CAME IN.
UM, SO, UH, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? UM, YES.
UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THIS DEPUTY WOULD ALSO BE SUPPORTING THE OTHER THREE PRECINCTS AS WELL.
SO, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT IS YES.
COULD BE DISTRIBUTED OVER THREE OTHER PRECINCT, ALL FOUR PRECINCTS, IS THAT YES, MA'AM.
YEAH, WE'D GET OUR STUFF DONE FIRST IN PRECINCT FOUR, FAST AS WE CAN, LIKE WE ALWAYS DO.
AND THEN, UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON NOW WITH A DEPUTY THAT WE HAVE HELPS US.
BUT, UH, UH, WE WOULD, UH, CERTAINLY TAKE CARE OF THAT.
OH, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE WANTING THE, THE TOTAL LOADED OF 105 3 97 TO BE ALL IN PRECINCT FOUR BUDGET? YES.
AND, UH, SO THAT PERSON WOULD BE ANSWERABLE TO ME.
AND, UH, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, UH, BEING, YOU KNOW, UH, HE'D JUST GO THROUGH ME, WE'D TAKE CARE OF OUR DEPARTMENT, THEN WE'D HELP THE OTHERS.
AND EVEN IF WE WERE WORKING IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND THEY NEEDED HELP, WE'D FIT IT IN MOST, YOU KNOW, SURELY.
IS THAT THE, THE RANGE, THE STARTING RANGE, THE 72, 72 9 IS STEP ONE FOR A DEPUTY.
AND, AND JUST REAL QUICK, CAMMY ON THAT, WERE YOU USING LIKE COLLIN COUNTY, SOME OF THE LARGER COUNTIES THAT WE SOMETIMES USE? UH, FOR THAT OR JUST, JUST IN GENERAL? THAT'S BASED ON THE ROCKWELL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
WELL, I'M SORRY, TO YOUR POINT, CONSTABLE, RANDY, UM, ISN'T, AND SOME OF THE, I'LL GET TO ANY ISSUE I HAVE WITH ALL OF THE CONSTABLE REPORTS IN A MINUTE, BUT ISN'T CONSTABLE TWO ASKING FOR DEPUTY ALSO? UH, I THINK HE'S ASKING FOR A PART-TIME, BUT OKAY.
BUT YOU SAID YOUR GUY WOULD SERVE ALL FOUR.
SO IF WE AGREE TO THIS, WE NEED TO TALK THROUGH THIS WITH TWO AND THE OTHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WORKS.
RIGHT? WELL, THAT'S A VOLUNTEER, NOT A PAID YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A VOLUNTEER.
BUT, BUT I, I WAS, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE, WHAT YOU SAID A MINUTE AGO IS, WAS I GUESS, NEW TO ME THAT THIS IS GONNA BE SOMEBODY FOR ALL FOUR PRECINCTS YES.
HELP, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT DECISION IN MY MIND THAN WHAT YEAH.
I WHAT? HE'S PRECINCT TWO ASKING FOR ONE, AND YEAH, I DON'T PRECINCT ONE HAVING A DA VOLUNTEER GUY, AND IT SEEMS, YES, SIR.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS EXPECTATIONS ARE THOUGH.
I'M, I'M JUST HERE TODAY FOR RANDY PARKS.
ALWAYS IN THE PAST IT WAS, IT WAS ALL OR NOTHING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT I'M HERE FOR MY PRECINCT AND, UH, I THINK Y'ALL UNDERSTAND.
BUT I'LL, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT IN A MINUTE WHEN IT'S MY TURN.
UH, ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO SHOW HERE IS THAT THIS VEHICLE THAT'S IN CAPITAL OUTLAY HERE IS A, UM, 2025 CHEVY TAHOE.
LIKE JUST A TAHOE JUST LIKE MINE.
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TAHOE'S REALLY WORKED GOOD FOR ME AND IT'S GOT EXTRA, UH, SPACE IN THERE TO PUT ALL MY EQUIPMENT.UH, AND LIKE I SAID, KEEPING THE 2019, IF WE GET THE DEPUTY, ALSO, I NEED TO ADD A NEW RADIO AND A CAMERA SYSTEM INTO THAT.
AND POSSIBLY WE COULD TAKE THAT AT A FUND 51.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
UH, I THINK THERE'S BEEN OTHER THINGS TAKEN OUTTA THAT FUND.
AND I THINK EVEN THE SHERIFF ONE TIME GOT A CAR AT A FUND, 51, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
UM, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP THE COUNTY.
UH, WE ALSO, UH, WELL, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO THAT YET, BUT THE ESTIMATED COST IS 86,410.
UH, THE NEW RADIO SYSTEM WOULD BE, AND CAMERAS 15,289 COMES TO A HUNDRED ONE SIX HUNDRED NINETY NINE TWENTY ONE.
IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND, DON'T IT?
SO, UM, AND I WOULD SAY TOO, THIS IS ON THE SIDEBAR THERE, BUT WE DID TRY TO GET A GRANT THIS YEAR AND DIDN'T GET IT, BUT, UH, UH, TO GET MORE EQUIPMENT FOR, UH, CONSTABLES FOR OUR COUNTY AND, UM, UH, AND WE'LL TRY AGAIN HERE IN THE NEXT LEGISLATURE.
BUT, UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? UM, IN, IN WHAT YOU PROPOSED, IT DOES HAVE SOME VIDEO AS A SERVICE, UH, FOR, I THINK IT'S THE BODY CAM, BUT IT COULD JUST BE THE CAR.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET WITH THE AUDITOR AND STRAIGHTEN OUT WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE.
JUST SO YOUR CAPITAL LEASE WOULD BE CORRECT? YES, SIR.
I MEAN, AND, AND THAT'S, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT WHEN WE'RE ASKING, LOOKING AT THE WHOLE BUDGETARY COSTS.
I DON'T MEAN TO HARP ON THAT, BUT I CAN'T TELL.
MOTOROLA, I THINK THE MOTOROLA YOU SUPPLIED IS JUST FOR THE INCAR SYSTEM, BUT I KNOW MOTOROLA ALSO SUPPLIES THE BODY CAMERAS, SO I'M SURE WE COULD, WE COULD, YEAH.
IT'S ONE, IT'S A PACKAGE DEAL.
AND THEN DOWN HERE IN MY LINE ITEM BUDGET UNDER, UH, CAPITAL LEASES, UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S IT DIDN'T, LISA, THAT THEY TAKE A LITTLE BIT OUCH OUT DURING THE YEAR TO TAKE CARE OF THAT PAYMENT ON THAT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT.
I JUST, BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL RIGHT WHAT, WHAT THE CHANGE IS GOING TO BE MONETARILY IF WE, IF WE AMEND YES, SIR.
'CAUSE YOURS IS AT YOURS, CAPITAL LEASE IS AT 6,300.
I I JUST, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT THAT'S RIGHT.
WELL, I'LL, I'LL CHECK THAT AGAIN.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE WHOLE REQUEST IS, IS DONE.
'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE DO A REQUEST, WE END UP GOING, BUT I KNOW WE LEFT THIS OUT, SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET YOU A NEW CAR, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GET A NEW LAPTOP.
UM, SO, BUT THAT'S NOT, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THAT IN THAT, THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING A STEP BACK AND GOING, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND WE GET THE CAR AND WE DO EVERYTHING THAT, THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR ALL OF WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.
'CAUSE I JUST DON'T WANNA GET A CAR AND THEN HAVE YOU COME BACK IN JANUARY AND SAY, WELL, WE NEED A LAPTOP.
UM, AND, AND SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA DO THAT DUE DILIGENCE AND THAT'S FINE.
I JUST, UM, I JUST THINK WE NEED THE IT IN TOTALITY.
AND I'LL STAY IN TOUCH WITH ELISA.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M IN HER OFFICE DAILY ANYWAY, SHE PROBABLY GETS TIRED OF SAYING, WELL, WELL, SHE, SHE, SHE'S CONFIRMING THAT, SO,
SO, UH, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? AND I WAS GONNA GO BACK TO THIS, WHAT I HANDED OUT TO YOU.
LET'S FINISH WHAT YOU HANDED OUT AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK INTO THE LINE ITEMS. YES.
SO, UH, TO SHOW YOU A FEW OTHER THINGS HERE, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY DEPARTMENT, UH, I CAN TELL YOU LAST THURSDAY, I CALLED THE COUNTY JUDGE, JUDGE NEW, AND, UH, TOLD HIM, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.
I WAS JUST HANDED, UH, 15, UH, EVICTIONS TO GO SERVE IN ONE DAY.
SO, UH, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT EVERY DAY, BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS IN MY DEPARTMENT, AND I KNOW Y'ALL LACK STATISTICS.
AND, UH, SO, UH, NUMBER TWO HERE, ACTUAL ATTEMPTS.
THIS IS HOW MANY TIMES THAT I HANDLE, UH, PA PAPERS, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, THE NUMBERS IN THE TABLE, THIS IS THE ACTUAL ATTEMPT FOR 2025 FROM JANUARY TO, TO MAY.
BECAUSE I, WHEN I FINISHED OUT THIS REPORT FOR YOU, SO WE
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STILL GOT JUDE JULY, WELL, THE REST OF THE YEAR, REALLY, UM, THE NUMBERS IN THE TABLE SHOW THE NEED FOR A FULL-TIME DEPUTY CONSTABLE.THE NUMBERS ONLY ARE REFLECT FIVE MONTHS, AND WE STILL GOT THAT MANY MORE TO GO.
THIS IS GETTING TO BE MORE THAN ONE CONSTABLE CAN HANDLE.
NOT EVERY DAY, BUT IT IN THE, IT, IT IS, UM, IN THE LONG RUN.
UH, THIS NEXT PAGE HERE ON PAGE THREE, IF YOU GO LOOK, LOOK AT THESE DIFFERENT PAPERS THAT I'VE BEEN HANDLING AND SERVING, YOU'LL SEE THE END OF MAY, JANUARY TO THEN IT'S, UH, 275 TOTAL ATTEMPTS.
HOW MANY TIMES IT CROSSES MY PATH.
UH, AND IT, AND MOST DEFINITELY THE EVICTIONS ARE THE TOP.
I THINK PRECINCT FOUR AND PRECINCT TWO, UH, SERVE THE MOST EVICTION, UH, NOTICES.
AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH, UH, RUP POSSESSION.
SO ON, UH, PAGE FOUR, I I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
ABOUT PAGE THREE, WE GOT, UH, OUT OF, EXCUSE ME, OUT OF COUNTY CIVIL PAPERWORK FROM OTHER COUNTIES, STATES OR DEPARTMENTS.
HOW DO THEY KNOW WHICH PRECINCT TO ASSIGN THAT TO? WELL, THEY'RE, THEY CALL EVERYBODY.
AND, UH, WE ALL LOOK IT UP AND TELL 'EM WHICH PRECINCT TO SEND THAT TO.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T CALL THE CONSTABLES, THEY JUST FIGURE THAT'S IT, AND THEY SEND IT TO THAT CONSTABLE.
WELL, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT TO GIVE IT TO THAT CONSTABLE, WE JUST, WE SERVE THE ONES THAT ARE IN OUR PRECINCT.
SO, SO THEY, THEY ESSENTIALLY JUST SEND IT TO ONE OF YOU AND THEN YOU GUYS FIGURE OUT WHO, AND WE FIGURE OUT WHO ACTUALLY, WE DON'T SEND IT BACK TO 'EM.
WE JUST TO SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN.
AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY HELPS US ALL BEING ON THE SAME FLOOR AND WE'RE ABLE TO HELP EACH OTHER AND HELP THE J JPS ALSO.
UM, WHAT IS NOW IT SAYS TOTAL ATTEMPTS FROM JANUARY TO NOW.
WHEN, WHEN DID YOU RUN THIS REPORT? I RAN IT TO END OF MAY.
SO THIS IS GONNA SHOW YOU IN, UH, PAGE FOUR.
THESE ARE, THIS IS A PREDICTION THAT I, I FEEL, UH, THE NEXT ILLUSTRATION SHOWS THAT PREDICTED AMOUNTS OF ATTEMPTS FOR THE VARIOUS TYPES OF SERVICE.
UH, WHEN YOU GET DOWN THERE, YOU, YOU WOULD JUMP FROM, UH, 201 EVICTIONS, FOR INSTANCE, UP TO POSSIBLY 461, I'M ASSUMING, AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHY, HOW I CAME BY THIS.
SO, EXCUSE ME, I'M GET A DRINK OF WATER HERE.
SO YOU SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT KIND OF PAPERS.
SO THIS WOULD BE ATTEMPTS FROM JANUARY TO THE END OF THE YEAR, AND TO SHOW THAT, GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE FIVE, ACTUAL ATTEMPTS IN 2024.
SO THERE WAS 366 EVICTIONS LAST YEAR.
UH, WE'RE FIGURING IT'S GONNA JUMP BECAUSE IT'S JUMPED ALREADY FROM JANUARY TO MAY TO LAST YEAR.
UH, MATTER OF FACT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL ATTEMPTS THAT PAPERS THAT I'VE TAKEN CARE OF, UH, WERE 567 ATTEMPTS.
AND, UH, AND IF WHEN, UH, CONSTABLE CHENEY COMES IN HERE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A HIGH FIGURE ALSO.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON HOW I FIGURED THAT OUT? OKAY.
I MEAN, I SO YOU DIDN'T JUST DIVIDE WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON THROUGH MAY BY FIVE AND MULTIPLY IT BY 12? NO, BECAUSE LIKE ON SOME OF THESE I SEE YOUR ACTUALS IN 2024 UHHUH
THEY, I, I, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S, THAT WE NEED TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME FIGURING OUT YEAH, BUT YOU ASKED, DO I UNDERSTAND? ITS, AND I DON'T, IT'S SO INVOLVED.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
AND, AND, AND CONSTABLE, UM, IS THERE ANY WAY, AND NOT NOW, BUT CAN YOU JUST WRITE A NOTE, UM, TO SUPPORT THIS? IS, IS THERE NOT ALL PAPERS ARE CREATED EQUAL? NO.
I KNOW LIKE RITZ OF POSSESSION ARE REALLY, REALLY HARD AND SOME ARE EASIER.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU COULD, UM, KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA,
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UH, OF A, OF A TIMETABLE ON WHAT IT KIND OF TAKES OKAY.TO, TO DO THIS? BECAUSE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU THROW A NUMBER.
I, I MEAN, NOW WE'RE PROJECTING A NUMBER AND GOING, WELL, THAT'S ONE, OR THAT'S TWO, OR THAT'S THREE.
AND THEY'RE NOT ALL CREATED EQUAL.
WHEN THEY GO TO COURT AND THEY'VE GOT AN EVICTION HEARING, UH, IF THE PLAINTIFF WINS, UH, IN OTHER WORDS, IF, IF THE, IF THE PLAINTIFF WINS THE EVICTION, UH, AND THEY GET OUT OF THE HOUSE WITHIN FIVE DAYS, 75% OF THEM, THEY'RE OUT, BUT THE OTHERS ARE NOT OUT.
SO ON THE SIXTH DAY, THEY CAN COME TO COURT AND GET A WRIT OF POSSESSION.
AND IT DEPENDS ON WHAT PART OF THE COUNTY YOU'RE IN.
PROBABLY HOW MANY WRITS OF POSSESSIONS YOU'RE GONNA GET, DEPENDING ON WHAT PEOPLE MAKE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SALARY WISE AND EVERYTHING.
BECAUSE IN, IN MY POSITION, UM, WHEN THEY, WHEN, WHEN IT COMES TO THE SIXTH DAY AND THEY FILE FOR A RITA POSITION TO MOVE 'EM OUT, UM, I GOT A PRETTY GOOD IDEA JUST BY LOOKING AT 'EM, TALKING TO 'EM.
EVEN IF YOU GIVE THEM A COUPLE OF DAYS, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THOSE TWO DAYS.
AND WHEN YOU DRIVE UP, IN MOST CASES, THEY'RE SITTING THERE SMOKING A CIGARETTE AND WATCHING TV AND ALL THE, THE HOUSE IS FULL OF FURNITURE.
AND, UH, SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU DON'T, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT AREAS YOU'RE IN AND HOW MANY MORE RA POSSESSION THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT'S IN A PERSON'S MIND, WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO, YOU KNOW? AND SO, UM, AND THEN, SO ONCE YOU GET AN EVICTION AND IT COMES ACROSS MY DESK, AND THEN I GO OUT AND ATTEMPT IT AND I GET 'EM, I CAN SERVE THEM.
A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON'T GET 'EM THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE PEOPLE WORK DAY AND NIGHT.
SO THEN YOU GO THE NEXT, YOU GO THE NEXT DAY, AND YOU SERVE IT AGAIN.
OKAY? WE'RE ONLY REQUIRED TO MAKE TWO PASSES, UM, ON TWO DAYS.
SO ON, UH, THE THIRD DAY, THEN WE ALREADY HAVE A, A COURT ORDER CALL, A SUBSTITUTE SERVICE, AND FROM THE JUDGE, AND WE, WE SIGNED A SWORN AFFIDAVIT SAYING HOW MANY TIMES WE WENT BY THERE.
AND THEN THEY GIVE US THE, THEY GIVE US THIS, UH, UH, COURT ORDER, AND THEN WE GO BY AND, UH, WE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, MAKE COPIES OF ALL THAT.
AND THEN WE GO BY AND, AND, UH, DUCT TAPE IT ON THEIR FRONT DOOR.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TRY TO KNOCK IT AGAIN, BUT I STILL DO.
'CAUSE IF THEY COME TO THE DOOR, THEN, THEN I CANCEL THE, UH, UH, SUBSTITUTE SERVICE.
SO, AND THEN, UH, IF IT GOES TO A, UH, WR OF POSSESSION, THEN I'M OUT THERE TWO MORE TIMES.
I GOTTA GO BY AND PUT A WARNING ON THAT DOOR, AND THEN I GOTTA GO WHENEVER THAT MOVE OUT IS I GOTTA GO AGAIN.
SO SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS TO AN EVICTION AND, UH, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, UH, WELL, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THERE'S MORE, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS.
THE ONES THAT, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE THEM OUT TO THE ONES YOU DO.
THE PLAINTIFF HIRES A COMPANY AND I, I REQUIRE THREE TO FOUR PEOPLE TO COME THERE, AND THEY NEED A LOCKSMITH ALSO.
AND BECAUSE, UH, A LOT OF CASES, THESE PEOPLE ARE GONE WHEN YOU GET IN, WE GOTTA MAKE ENTRY, SO WE GOTTA A LOCKSMITH, AND THEN WE GET IN THERE IF ALL THEIR FURNITURE'S STILL IN THERE, THESE PEOPLE GOTTA PUT ALL THAT STUFF IN THE FRONT YARD AND BAG IT UP WITH TRASH BAGS.
AND WE GET EVERYTHING IN THAT HOUSE.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY COMING BACK AND SAY, WHERE'S GRANDMA'S $5,000 RING OR ROLEX WATCH.
BUT, BUT YOU DON'T DO THAT, RIGHT? NO, I'M, I'M THE PLAINTIFF BRINGS SOMEBODY YES, THEY HIRE SOMEBODY.
YEAH, I'M WATCHING THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'M DOING, UH, FIGHTS BETWEEN THE, THE WORKOUT, THE WORKING PEOPLE VERSUS THESE PEOPLE WHERE YOU'RE MOVING OUT.
SOMETIMES I GOTTA PUT 'EM IN JAIL MOST OF THE TIMES.
NOT, UH, THERE'S NO, I COULD TELL YOU CASES, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
AND SOMETIMES I'M IN A BRAND NEW HOUSE AND THERE MAY BE CHICKENS AND DOGS IN THERE.
I MEAN, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO.
AND SO, BUT ANYWAY, WHAT I'M TO BRING THIS DOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YOU GOT COMING AND IT'S JUST A CONTINUOUS THING.
CAN, CAN THE DEPUTY CONSTABLE SERVE PAPERS AS WELL? YES.
DO THEY HAVE THE SAME AUTHORITY AS A CONSTABLE? YES.
AND THEY'LL BE DOING MOVE OUTS AND, UH, EVERYTHING
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THAT I DO, EVERYTHING.WHAT ABOUT A RESERVE DEPUTY CONSTABLE RESERVE? UH, YOU TAKE LIKE CHAD FOG THAT DOES IT FOR BENEDITO, CONSTABLE BENEDITO, UH, HE DOES ALL OF IT, PLUS HE HELPS A LOT ON OUR COMPUTER EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING.
HOW MUCH OF YOUR TIME DAILY, CONSTABLE, DO YOU SPEND, UH, WRITING TRAFFIC CITATIONS, TRAFFIC TICKETS? WELL, I KNEW HE WAS GONNA BRING THAT UP, USED TO, WHEN I HAD ALL MY STUFF DONE, I WROTE LOTS OF, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS.
UH, MY OLD, ONE OF MY OLD PREDECESSORS, JOHNNY CULLINS, USED TO GIVE ME A HARD TIME ABOUT IT.
BUT I, THAT'S HOW I GOT THIS JOB BECAUSE I DO A LOT OF THINGS.
AND SO I JUST GOT THIS, UH, NEW STALKER RADAR THAT WE GOT FROM, UH, SAN ANTONIO.
ALL WE HAD TO DO IS PAY OUT OF OUR BUDGET TO PUT 'EM IN.
SO I HAVE A FEW TICKETS, BUT NOT, NOT MUCH TIME IN MY AREA BECAUSE MINE'S SERVING PAPERS AND ALSO BAILIFF IN THE COURT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, YOU KNOW, I'M, WHEN I DO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M UP THERE EVERY DAY, SOMETIMES LATER IN THE EVENING GETTING THIS STUFF DONE.
SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, UH, TICKET WRITING GOING ON IN MY PRECINCT RIGHT NOW.
BUT THAT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT COULDN'T BE, UH, WE'RE JUST NOT OUT THERE TO WRITE PEOPLE TICKETS.
WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE DRIVING THE COUNTY IN OUR PRECINCT, UH, WE SOME SEE SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE PULLED OVER FOR BREAKING THE LAW.
SO YOUR, YOUR VEHICLE, NOT TO GET US OFF TOPIC, BUT DID YOU GET YOUR, YOUR 2019 TAHOE, WAS THAT NEW WHEN YOU GOT IT? WAS THAT A NEW VEHICLE OR WAS THAT A HANDY DOWN? THAT'S BRAND NEW.
AND I HAD RADAR IN IT, BUT IT WAS
WELL, LET, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND WRAP UP THIS PAPER THAT YOU HANDED OUT, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE LINE ITEMS. OKAY.
SO I'D LIKE TO SAY AFTER PROVIDING THE NUMBERS ABOVE THE, IN THE TABLES, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE WORK IN PRECINCT FOUR IS DOING NOTHING BUT INCREASING.
AS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE MOVING TO ROCKWELL COUNTY, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD INCREASING IN THE DESPERATELY NEEDED HELP TO HELP ALLEVIATE THE WORKLOAD FROM JUST ONE PERSON.
AS YOU, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND THE JUDGE, UH, ARE LOOKING AT THE GROWTH OF OUR COUNTY, THE CONSTABLES NEED TO BE PART OF THE GROWTH DISCUSSION.
WE PERFORM NOT ONLY THE MAJORITY OF THE CIVIL IN THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO RUN TRAFFIC, INCLUDING WRITTEN CITATIONS AND WARNINGS.
I ALSO PATROL IN MY PRECINCT WHEN, UH, I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING AT THE TIME, HELP WITH ACCIDENTS AND ASSIST OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AS NEEDS HAVE GROWN AT A TIME WHEN WE NEED MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT ON THE STREETS.
THIS IS THE TIME WE NEED IT MOST.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION FOR THE BUDGET REQUEST.
I LOOK FORWARD IN WORKING WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU DURING THIS PROCESS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, CONSTABLE.
UH, SO LET, LET'S, UH, THE, THE NUMBER ONE LINE ITEM, OKAY.
YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER THAT? YEAH, LET, LET, LET'S GO OVER THAT.
SO THESE ARE SOME IDEAS THAT I HAVE, AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE THE SAME AMOUNT.
WE NORMALLY DON'T LIKE TO WRITE ANYTHING IN THE SALARY DEAL UP IN THERE AND EVERYTHING, BUT, UH, THIS, I, UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL TAKE CARE OF.
UH, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT ON THIS, UM, I PUT DOWN, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE MAKING 86,973.
UH, WE PUT THE 1 0 1 2 88 DOWN THERE.
AND THE THING THAT I FOUND OUT WAS YOU TAKE, LIKE THE DEPUTIES IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, THEY TOP OUT AND THEY'RE MAKING, UH, 94,004 12, THE ONES THAT TOPPED OUT.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GUARDS ALSO DOWN AT THE COURTHOUSE, UH, WHICH THEY'RE, UH, THEY DESERVE THIS MONEY AND, BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT ON THE STREETS.
AND IN JANUARY, UM, BECAUSE OF SENATE BILL 22, WHICH Y'ALL KNOW ALL ABOUT, THAT, WHERE THEY GOT MORE MONEY THROUGH A GRANT TO PAY THEIR DEPUTIES, UM, THEY GOT A STEP RAISE, UM, AND, UH, WHICH WAS, UH, AFTER SENATE BILL 22, THEY GOT THE STEP RAISE 5% DURING
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THIS PROCESS LAST YEAR.AND, UH, SO THAT THE STEP OR THE 5% WAS $4,700 THE WAY I UNDERSTAND.
AND THAT GAVE A TOTAL OF 99,000 1 1 2.
AND I CALLED ONE OF THE DEPUTIES YESTERDAY AND I ASKED HIM WHAT HE MADE, AND HE WAS NICE TO TELL ME, 99 1 1 2.
MATTER OF FACT, HE HAD TO LOOK AT THE SLIP IN HIS WALLET.
AND, UH, SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS WE GOT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE JPS AT 1 0 1 2 88, UH, THAT WAS JUST, IT'S THE SAME AS THEIR SALARY.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF WE GOT DEPUTIES AND I'VE GOT 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I'M AT 86 9 73, UH, AND THEY'RE AT 99 1 1 2, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG.
AND, AND WHEN, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE COME TO EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S BUDGET TIME, EVERYBODY LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UM, BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS, IS, AND YOU'LL PROBABLY HEAR THIS FROM THE OTHER CONSTABLES ALSO, BUT, UH, AND YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT Y'ALL POSSIBLY MIGHT HAVE GOT A COUPLE SALARY SURVEYS, AND I NEVER, NEVER DID KNOW, UH, WHAT THAT CAME OUT TO.
UM, BUT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, UH, I'M LOOKING AT FOR RANDY PARKS, WHAT I'M DOING OUT THERE AND, UH, SERVING THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THEY TOLD ME ANOTHER BUDGET.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE JOB PAID WHEN YOU GOT IT.
BUT THIS 20 YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, AND EVERY DAY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE KNEW WHAT THE JOB WAS.
UH, IT'S PRETTY CRAZY OUT THERE NOW.
SO WHEN WE GO TO DOORS AND EVERYTHING, WE GOT VESTS ON.
I HAD, AND I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, LAST WEEK I SERVED A GUY AT ROY CITY, KNOCKED ON HIS DOOR.
HE HAD A LITTLE PLAQUE DOWN THERE AND SAID HE WAS A PEACE OFFICER.
AND I'D ALREADY CHECKED HIM OUT BECAUSE I'D HEARD SOME THINGS WITH ROY CITY PD.
AND SO HE WASN'T WANTING TO WORK WITH ME AND EVERYTHING, AND, UH, WAS PRETTY RUDE, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYTHING.
I JUST GO UP AND TELL HIM WHO I AM, AND THIS IS AN EVICTION HEARING YOU GOTTA COME TO.
AND HE TELL, TOLD ME SOME STUFF I CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW OVER THE AIR, BUT, UH, HE SAID, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO, UH, I JUST TOOK THE PAPER AND THREW IT IN HIS DOOR.
THAT'S A, UH, BONAFIDE WAY TO SERVE SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER YPS DEAD WAS A LONG TIME.
CONSTABLE HARRIS, SHE KNOWS ALL THESE THINGS.
AND, UH, SO, AND WHILE I WAS WALKING OFF, I HEARD HIM RUNNING DOWN THE SIDEWALK, AND I LOOKED BACK AND HE TOOK THAT PAPER AND THREW IT AND HIT ME IN THE FACE.
AND I SAID, SIR, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA LOOK AT THIS.
AND, UH, I SAID, YOU JUST COMMITTED A FELONY BY HITTING ME WITH THIS.
BUT I SAID, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.
I'LL, I'LL PROBABLY SEE YOU AGAIN.
AND, UH, WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS WHEN IT GOES TO THE WR OF POSSESSION, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, ALL I'M SAYING IS IT, IT IS CRAZY OUT THERE.
AND, UH, BUT THAT'S JUST PART OF THE JOB.
I DON'T LIKE EVICTING PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I GOTTA DO.
AND, UH, BUT I'M SAYING IF YOU GET THIS SURVEY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SAY, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE CLO PROBABLY CLOSE TO THAT OR SOMEWHERE, WHEREVER IT IS, YOU KNOW.
AND, UH, HEY ERICA, CAN YOU GIVE ME THE LOAD ON 1 0 1 2 88, WHAT THE FULL LOADED AMOUNT IS? AND, AND, AND RANDY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE DID DO AN INTERNAL SALARY SURVEY, BUT CONSTABLES WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT.
IT WAS A VERY TARGETED SURVEY AT, UH, POSITION.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, OKAY.
UH, THE LOAD ON A 1 0 1 IS 2 38.
THE FULLTIME POSITION HE WAS ASKING FOR TOO.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT.
LET ME, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION POSSIBLE.
UH, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND, AND GOSH, ALL, ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT LIKES TO LOOK AT THE GUYS THAT ARE AND YEAH.
SIT SITTING AT THE COURTHOUSE AS THEY WALK IN AND, AND THINK THE GUYS JUST SIT THERE AND, AND, AND DON'T DO ANYTHING.
UH, SO EVERYBODY, UH, SAYS, WELL, YOU KNOW, I DO MORE THAN THOSE GUYS THERE.
WELL, BUT HOW SO YOU, YOU'RE ASKING TO GO FROM FULLY LOADED 121,271
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TO 138,000.SO WHAT, HOW DOES THAT BENEFIT THE, THE, THE CITIZENS OF ROCKWALL COUNTY? BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, MY FIRST YEAR WE GAVE YOU, YOU GUYS THE CONSTABLES, A GREATER RAISE, AND WE GAVE THE REST OF THE EMPLOYEES JUST TO GET YOU GUYS WHERE, WHERE YOU NEEDED TO BE.
AND THEN YOU GOT ANOTHER RAISE THE NEXT YEAR, AND THEN WHATEVER RAISE WE GET THIS YEAR.
YOU, YOU, YOU'LL GET THAT AS WELL.
TELL, TELL ME HOW THAT BENEFITS, OKAY, SO YOU REMEMBER THE YEAR WHEN THE PRIOR COMMISSIONERS HERE GAVE THEMSELVES, WAS IT A 22% RAISE OR 25? HOW MUCH? 26.
AND I KEPT TELLING ONE OF THE ONES THAT DIDN'T HEAR, NOW YOU GOTTA DO A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME.
AND IT COSTS SOME OF 'EM, THEIR JOBS AND PEOPLE ARE LISTENING RIGHT NOW AND EVERYTHING.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT, UH, THAT'S BACK.
AND DURING THAT TIME THEY GOT 26 AND WE GOT 15.
SO IT TOOK A WHILE TO CATCH UP TO ALL OF THAT OVER THE YEARS.
AND WE PR WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING WE GET.
I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, I I'M NOT GONNA WHAT, WHATEVER YOU'RE GONNA DO, I'M GONNA WALK AWAY DOING MATT, I'M GONNA DO MY JOB.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER SALARIES AND EVERYTHING, AND WE'RE ELECTED AND WE'RE OUT ON THE STREET AND DOING LOTS OF THINGS, UH, AND, AND I, I WANT TO GRAD CONGRATULATE ALL THE DEPUTIES FOR WHAT THEY DO.
'CAUSE THEY WORKED UP TO THAT POINT.
UM, IT'S NOT THAT MAYBE WE DO, WE DO THINGS DIFFERENT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES, I'M JUST SAYING, UH, IF THERE'S ANY WAY YOU COULD INCREASE THIS, SOME LOOKING AT ALL THAT, IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
BUT WHATEVER YOU CAN DO, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR, JUST TO HAVE A CLARIFY, THE CONSTABLES WEREN'T IN THIS STUDY THAT WE DID.
I DID AN ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARY SURVEY.
I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T SEND IT TO Y'ALL.
THERE WERE, UM, LEMME SEE HOW MANY COUNTIES I, 19 COUNTIES THAT I SURVEYED OKAY.
SO, SO THEY ARE IN SOMETHING WE HAVE, YES, WE DO HAVE A COMPARABLE, I DO.
AND WHAT'S THE MEAN SALARY FOR CONSTABLES IN THAT? WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO TELL YOU WHAT COUNTIES I SURVEYED OR JUST YES.
UM, BOWIE, LIBERTY, BASTROP HUNT, TOM GREEN, GREG GRAYSON, RANDALL PARKER, KAUFMAN, AL ELLIS, SMITH, BRAZORIA, WILLIAMSON, FORT BEND, DENTON, COLIN, AND DALLAS.
AND THE AVERAGE SALARY FOR CONSTABLE FOR THOSE WAS 90,000 4 9 5.
HOW MUCH WAS THAT AGAIN? WHAT? 90,003 DID YOU SAY? 90,000 409 5.
WE, WE HAVE SOME COUNTIES IN THERE, MIGHT NINE.
WE HAVE SOME COUNTIES IN THERE.
I MAY DISAGREE WITH HAVING IN THAT SURVEY, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT OFFLINE.
I MEAN, TOM GREEN IN SAN ANGELO MAKES NO SENSE TO BE IN OUR SURVEY, SO, NO, I, I, I AGREE.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE, WE'RE STUCK WITH WHO WILL ANSWER THE SURVEY, BUT APPLES TO APPLES IN, IN MY OPINION, IS PREVIOUS SURVEY, A FAST GROWING COUNTY NEXT TO A BIG URBAN COUNTY IS YEAH.
AND TO BE FAIR, UH, TOM, TOM GREEN IS POPULATION SIMILAR TO US AND A COUNTY BUDGET THAT IS IN OUR BALLPARK.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHY THAT THEY KIND OF SHOW UP.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM, I GET IT FROM THE NUMBER I GET, IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COST OF LIVING THAN HERE.
UM, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S IT, IT, IT'S NOT JUST AS RANDOM AS IT SOUNDS.
IT'S, AND, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY NICE THAT SHE PUTS ALL THE DATA ON THE FRONT SO WE CAN KIND OF MANIPULATE IT HOW WE WANT TO RIGHT OFF THE SPREADSHEET AND COME TO OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.
DID, DID, AND DID Y'ALL SAY HUNT COUNTY? YEP.
Y YOU DON'T THINK HUNT COUNTY SHOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE? WHAT, WHAT DO WHAT DO THE CONSTABLES GET OVER THERE? 76 5 8.
WELL, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, UH, DENSITIES LIKE OURS EITHER.
UH, WELL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR LINE ITEM? OH, JUST ON THAT LINE ITEM? WELL, OR OR, OR GOING FORWARD? WELL, I'M WAITING FOR BOBBY TO FINISH.
I JUST, WE WILL TALK, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO BRING UP
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THE WHOLE ENTIRE STUDY.NOW WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
I JUST WANT SEE A COMPETITIVE SET THAT MAKES SENSE FOR OUR COST OF LIVING IN OUR AREA AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING WHAT'S RIGHT.
AND IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO DO THAT.
MY, IF, IF I CAN SPEAK PLEASE, I DON'T WANT TO INTER TAKE OTHER PEOPLE'S TIME, BUT I, I GOTTA TELL YOU, THANKS FOR COMING.
FIRST OF ALL, I'VE KNOWN, I THINK YOU WERE LIKE ONE OF THE FIRST 10 PEOPLE I EVER MET WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 1986.
UM, BUT SO WE GO WAY BACK AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COUNTY SO MUCH.
THIS, YOU STARTED YOUR, YOUR PRESENTATION BY SAYING YOU'RE JUST SPEAKING FOR RANDY PARKS.
AND PRECINCT FOUR, AND I GET THAT, BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU ALL, AND I'M SPEAKING TO MY, UH, COLLEAGUES UP HERE ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY DRIVES ME CRAZY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
BECAUSE NOT TO CRITICIZE RANDY, OR WHEN STEVE FRAZIER COMES IN, HIM OR ANY OF THESE GUYS, THAT'S WHAT THEIR JOB IS.
THEY COME DO LOOK FOR THEMSELVES.
BUT WE AS A COUNTY, I I, I THINK WE SHOULD BE SOMEHOW LOOKING AT THIS ON MORE OF A GLOBAL BASIS.
UM, TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE, SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR A NEW CAR.
OKAY? IT'S A 2019 AND IT'S GOT 50 TO 8,000 MILES OR WHATEVER.
WELL, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S GOT LIKE 60, ABOUT 64.
WELL, AND YESTERDAY WE GOT A PRESENTATION WHERE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS GETTING 10, WHERE THEY'RE ASKING FOR 10 NEW VEHICLES, AND THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME COST.
BUT THE FIRST THING THAT WENT THROUGH MY HEAD WHEN I LOOK AT THIS IS DO WE HAVE THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT LOOK AT THE SHERIFF'S CARS, LOOK AT THE CONSTABLE'S CARS, AND DO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? BECAUSE, UM, I DON'T KNOW RANDY, WHY YOURS WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE SHERIFF'S IF, WELL, WELL JUST WAIT A MINUTE NOW.
THE POINT OF THIS IS IF, IF A SHERIFF IS, IF WE HAVE A GROUP THAT, AND I THINK YOU DO THIS PART OF THIS, RIGHT, BOBBY, IN THIS PART OF YOUR DEAL.
SO IF WE HAVE A GROUP THAT'S LOOKING AT CARS AND SAYING, WHEN ARE WE GONNA REPLACE 'EM? I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD LOOK AT THE CONSTABLES CARS TOO.
SO EVERY, WE'D BE TREATING CONSTABLES AND SHERIFFS SIMILARLY.
UM, AND ARE THAT WE WOULD BE PURCHASING IT FROM THE SAME VENDORS, RIGHT.
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'D TREAT 'EM DIFFERENTLY.
ULTIMATELY WE WILL PURCHASE FROM THE SAME VENDOR THROUGH THE SAME PROGRAM, AND WE'LL HAVE CAPTAIN BROWN HANDLE ALL OF THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE GOAL OF THE FLEET COMMITTEE IN GENERAL IS TO CENTRALIZE THIS.
SO DID YOU LOOK AT, DID YOU, DID THE FLEET COMMITTEE CONSIDER HIS REQUESTS? WE DID, AND IT'S, UH, IT'S ON THE LIST, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S DOWN A LIST.
WE'VE GOT SHERIFF VEHICLES THAT ARE AT 130,000.
90,000 THAT'LL BE OVER A HUNDRED BEFORE WE GET THERE.
IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON WHAT, HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE TO DEVOTE TO RIGHT, OKAY.
SO, BUT YOU DO CONSIDER THE CONSTABLES AS PART OF THIS, SO ABSOLUTELY.
AND SO I, OR ALL COUNTY FLEET ASSETS, MY, MY, MY INCLINATION RANDY, WOULD BE TO SAY WE'RE GONNA RELY ON WHAT THIS COMMITTEE DOES AND WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR VEHICLES AS A WHOLE.
AND THEN I GET INTO THE OTHER THINGS IN THIS BUDGET.
AND I MEAN THAT SINCERELY, RIGHT.
BUT SOME OF OUR SMALLER AMOUNTS, BUT I LOOK AT TWO, TWO ITEMS, UNIFORMS AND ACCESSORIES AND AMMO AND RANGE SUPPLIES.
EVERY ONE OF THOSE IS DIFFERENT.
AND, AND I, I JUST WONDER, WELL, WHY GAS, OIL AND MAINTENANCE, UM, NOT TO PICK ON YOU, BUT YOURS IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN ALL THE OTHERS, AND I WONDER WHY.
AND MY POINT OF ALL THIS IS NOT THAT I WANNA FLY SPEC EVERYTHING THAT RANDY DOES AND EVERY ITEM ON HIS BUDGET, BUT THAT WE AS COMMISSIONERS, I THINK, SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS AND THINKING, HOW DO WE GET TO THESE NUMBERS FOR EACH OF THESE GUYS? AND THEN IF, FOR EXAMPLE, CONSTABLE, UH, PARKS WERE TO COME AND SAY, WELL, ON AMMO, I'M DIFFERENT BECAUSE TELL US ABOUT IT.
BUT OTHERWISE, I WOULD THINK THESE LINE ITEMS WOULD PRETTY MUCH LINE UP ON ALL OF THEM.
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THAT'S MY SOAPBOX FOR RIGHT NOW.JUST AGAIN, SPEAKING TO MY COMMISSIONERS HERE, I, I THINK ONE THING WE SHOULD LOOK AT IS WHAT IS THE ROLE OF A CONSTABLE? AND HE SAYS HE SPENDS TIME NOT AS MUCH AS HE USED TO, BUT SPENDS TIME DOING TRAFFIC CITATIONS.
IS THAT REALLY WHAT WE WANT CONSTABLES DOING? JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE TIME, YOU KNOW, BUT MY BIGGEST THING THAT I LOOK AT NOW IS BY LAW, I'VE GOT A JP I'VE GOT TO, UH, BAILIFF THE JP COURT, PRECINCT FOUR, AND ALL THE CASELOADS GOING UP.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS, IS SERVING MY PAPERS.
AND, UM, AND I GET THE MAIN PAPERS THAT, THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO IS THE ONE FOR JP FOUR.
SO, BUT I DO GET OUTTA COUNTY PAPERS, AND SO I JUST TAKE 'EM AS THEY COME AND THEY, THEY PAY ME.
AND THAT GOES INTO THE COUNTY COFFERS.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH MONEY THAT I'VE SPENT SO FAR, UM, AND EVEN LIKE IN UNIFORM AND ACCESSORIES, DID Y'ALL GET A LIST OF WHAT IT'S DOWN TO NOW, HOW MUCH MONEY I'VE SPENT THIS YEAR? DID THEY THE AUDITOR GIVE YOU TO YES, WE GOT A YEAR TO DATE FIGURE, WHICH IN MY UNDERSTANDING IS THROUGH MARCH.
WELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT UNIFORMS AND ACCESSORIES, THAT 9 32 13, I'VE GOT SOME MORE THAT HAVE COME IN AND THAT SHOULD GO UP, BE DOWN TO ABOUT 6 28 69.
THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE INVOICES.
UM, AND, AND PRETTY MUCH EVERY YEAR WHEN THE YEAR'S OVER, I'M, I'M WITHIN A THOUSAND DOLLARS OF MY TOTAL BUDGET.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THE REASON IT'S ALL, AND I'VE GONE OVER THIS WITH JUDGE NEW EVER SINCE HE'S BEEN HERE, UH, THE GAS, OIL AND MAINTENANCE, UM, RIGHT NOW IN THIS CAR, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA GO OUT ON IT.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE THE BRAKES NOW RUN YOU CLOSE TO $500.
I DRIVE MORE MILES GOING BACK AND FORTH TO FAYTON ROY CITY SEVERAL TIMES A DAY.
AND, UM, DENNIS BAILEY TOLD ME ONE TIME, CAN'T YOU JUST GO ONE TIME AND PARK IT? NO, BECAUSE ALL THIS STUFF IS COMING IN DURING DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY.
SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT'LL BE, UH, PROBABLY PRETTY MUCH TAKEN CARE OF.
UH, IF YOU ALSO LOOK AT AMMO, UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, I'M AT 2 35, SO THERE'LL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT MONEY LEFT IN THAT, UH, AS FAR AS ALL OF THEM DOING THE SAME, THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, MAYBE YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S MY POINT.
AND, AND YOUR NUMBERS MAY BE THE ONES THAT ARE CORRECT, BUT, UH, YOU TALK ABOUT GAS, OIL AND MAINTENANCE.
PRECINCT TWO IS ASKING FOR $3,000.
UH, PRECINCT TWO IS ASKING FOR $400.
PRECINCT ONE IS ASKING FOR, UM, 250.
AND ON GAS, OIL AND MAINTENANCE PRECINCT ONE IS ASKING FOR 3,800.
I, AGAIN, MY POINT IS NOT THAT YOU'RE WRONG, MY POINT IS THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT, I I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIAL, WHY YOU NEED A LOT MORE GAS, OIL AND MAINTENANCE OTHER.
'CAUSE ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DO A BUDGET.
I'VE GOT, AND IF YOURS IS RIGHT FOR EVERYBODY, THEN WE SHOULD RAISE EVERYBODY TO YOUR LEVELS.
WELL, IT'S REAL HARD JOB TO DO THAT.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH I'M OUT DURING THE DAY IN MY MILEAGE, YOU, Y'ALL CHECK THOSE GAS TICKETS AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, IT GIVES YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO A GAS TICKET, WE PUT OUR ODOMETER IN THERE.
AND SO, AND YOU TAKE, UH, CONSTABLE BENEDITO, HE'S JUST DRIVING IN PRECINCT ONE.
I'M, I'M GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE COUNTY TO GET TO FATE.
AND ROY CITY IN PRECINCT FOUR, COMMISSIONER, MY COMMISSIONER KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE GOING OVER THERE AND COMING BACK AND ALL THIS TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING, AND YOU'RE SITTING IN ALL THAT.
YOU, YOU GOTTA GET THINGS DONE AT A CERTAIN TIME, OR IT'S HARD TO GET IT DONE.
AND THE TRAFFIC IS TREMENDOUS.
RANDY, I'M, I'M NOT ARGUING YOU ANY OF THESE POINTS.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
BUT IF, UH, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT, EXCUSE ME, IF YOU LOOK AT MY
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LAST TWO YEARS, YOU'LL SEE IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.NOW, IF I DID HAVE SOMETHING COME UP ON THE CAR, UH, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE A DEAL WHERE, UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK MORE MONEY OUTTA THAT, SO I HAD TO GO TO ANOTHER LINE ITEM.
SO, BOBBY, DO YOU GUYS IN YOUR TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE? FLEET COMMITTEE, I'M SORRY, DO YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH SHOULD BE ALLOCATED TO THESE ITEMS FOR GAS, OIL AND MAINTENANCE FOR EACH CAR EACH YEAR? NO, WE DO.
I MEAN, WE HAVE AN AVERAGE THAT WE LOOK AT.
BUT, AND, AND WE TALK ABOUT ONES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF A RANGE.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT A CAR THAT'S TAKEN ON A LOT OF MAINTENANCE AND IT'S OUTSIDE OF A WARRANTY, THEN THAT CAR MOVES UP THE LIST TO GO TO GET OUT.
AND, AND WE TALK ABOUT THINGS.
IF WE GET A BIG REPAIR, THAT CAR MAY JUST GO AND WE MAY MIDYEAR, UM, BUY ANOTHER VEHICLE.
AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE FUNDS FOR.
AND, UH, AND CONTINGENCIES IN CASE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS.
AND WE, WE MAKE A FINANCIAL DECISION THAT A $8,000, UH, REPLACEMENT OF A PART IS NOT WORTH IT ON A 2019 TAHOE, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA KEEP A VEHICLE THAT'S GOT THAT KIND OF RISK TO ONE, WHOEVER'S DRIVING IT INTO THE COUNTY.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THAT GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT TRYING TO GET THIS TO BE MORE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, MAKE MORE SENSE, UNIFORM FROM CONSTABLE TO CONSTABLE AND UNIFORM.
THAT'S THE INEFFICIENCY OF COUNTY BUDGETING THAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR.
BUT, BUT, UM, I AGREE THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL LINE ITEMS IN HERE THAT COULD BE, UH, MORE UNIFORM AND NOT UP FOR SUCH DEBATE.
AND THEN THE ISSUE OF A NEW DEPUTY, UH, CONSTABLE, AGAIN, WE MAY NEED ONE YEAH.
OVERALL, BUT, BUT I WOULD THINK IT'S OUR JOB IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT, TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STAFF IT ALL DUE RESPECT TO RANDY.
I DON'T THINK, UNLESS THERE'S A LEGAL REASON TO THAT, WE WOULD WANNA SAY, WE'RE GONNA HIRE A LEGAL DE, UH, A, A DEPUTY CONSTABLE AND, AND RANDY GETS TO RUN A SHOW.
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
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'D DE DEFINE THAT WORKLOAD IF WE DO IT.
I, I, I DO NOT LIKE THE RESERVE CONSTABLES THAT WE NOT INDIVIDUALLY.
I DON'T LIKE THE VOLUNTEER CONCEPT OF THAT.
I, I THINK IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA FOR THE COUNTY FROM A LIABILITY STANDPOINT.
I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE DOING THAT.
I DO THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR A DEPUTY CONSTABLE IN LIEU OF THOSE POSITIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF, UM, AND PUT SOMEONE ACTUALLY ON THE BOOKS.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RATHER DO.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE THERE YET TO HAVE ONE ASSIGNED TO A SPECIFIC PRECINCT, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT, UH, CONSTABLE PARKS IS SAYING WHEN HE SAYS LIKE, WELL, WHO'S GONNA MANAGE THEIR TIME THEN? I MEAN, IS IT GONNA BE A FIGHT EVERY DAY FOR YOU TO GET USE OF THE, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I SEE.
MAYBE I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT, BUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE SITTING UP HERE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.
AND I, AND I THINK IF I AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER LICHTY, I THINK IT'S MORE OF A, MAYBE WE NEED ONE OVERALL.
YEAH, MAYBE, AND I'M NOT LOOKING, I'M NOT REALLY ONE REALLY LOOKING FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, KEEPING UP WITH HER TIME SHEETS AND EVERYTH, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, YOU KNOW? I KNOW.
SO, YOU KNOW, BUT IT IS CERTAIN THINGS YOU GOTTA DO.
BUT IF, IF YOU DID, I MEAN, IF YOU DID, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL.
IF, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO DIVIDE IT OUT, THAT'S AN IDEA.
YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TREY'S GOING IS ASKING FOR, AND, BUT I THINK POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, HE MAY BE ASKING FOR A PART-TIME, UH, CLERK.
AND, UH, BUT THERE'S THINGS TO LOOK AT BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU IT'S GROWING AND FOLKS, IT'S COMING.
AND JUST, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE, WE WERE GIVEN A LIST OF ALL THE NEW EMPLOYEE REQUESTS.
AND IF WE, IF WE AGREED TO EVERY NEW EMPLOYEE THAT'S REQUESTED, WE WOULD INCREASE OUR STAFFING THIS YEAR, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES BY 7.5%, WHICH IS A HUGE NUMBER IF YOU GOT 385 EMPLOYEES, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO WE GOTTA WATCH ALL THIS STUFF REALLY CAREFULLY, OR WE'LL BUILD A BUREAUCRACY THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD.
SO WHAT, WHATEVER Y'ALL DECIDE TO DO, EXCUSE ME, I, I'VE GOT THESE ALLERGIES, BUT
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IF YOU DON'T WANNA PUT HIM IN MY DEAL AND YOU WANNA SPREAD HIM OUT, I THINK Y'ALL GOT A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHO THIS DEPUTY'S GONNA BE ALREADY.I I, I DON'T I THAT I'M, YEAH.
SO, AND I'M BECAUSE, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T PROMISE ANYBODY ANYTHING OR ANYTHING.
WE'RE JUST, IT'S ALL IN, IN YOUR HANDS.
AND, BUT I'M THE ONE THAT STARTED THE RESERVE PROGRAM YEARS AGO BY HAVING RESERVES.
IT HELPED CUT BACK ON THE COUNTY BUDGET.
BUT TRYING TO FIND THEM GUYS, OR LADIES OR MEN, THEY'RE HARD TO FIND NOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND MOST OF 'EM THAT I EVER HAD, UH, THEY'D BE HERE FOR TWO OR THREE MONTHS, AND MOST OF 'EM ARE YOUNG GUYS OUTTA THE ACADEMY.
ALL THEY WANTED TO DO WAS WRITE TICKETS.
AND THEN IN THREE MONTHS, THEY'RE GONE TO ANOTHER AGENCY.
SO, AND I DID HAVE A FELLOW WITH ME THAT WORKED FOR THE CITY OF ROCKWELL FOR 14 YEARS AS A RESERVE.
UH, AND HE, HE DID A GREAT JOB, BUT HE'S GOT TOO MUCH TO DO OVER THERE NOW.
BUT I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE AMMO JUST BRIEFLY, BECAUSE, UM, IT, IT WAS A STICKING POINT FOR A, A PREVIOUS MEMBER OF THE COURT.
HE, AND, AND FINALLY, IT, IT, IT TOOK US DIVING INTO IT AND THE SHERIFF HELPING, WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO PROVIDE THEM WITH 50 ROUNDS SO THEY CAN MAINTAIN THEIR CERTIFICATION.
THAT, THAT, THAT IS CERTIFICATION.
SO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE 50 ROUNDS IS THEM TRAINING IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THEIR QUALIFICATION.
SO, UH, WHILE, WHILE IT SEEMED LIKE, HEY, WE'RE JUST GIVING PEOPLE AMMO, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY NOT THERE, THERE'S EVERY YEAR THEY HAVE TO GO SHOW THEY'RE PROFICIENT.
UH, AND WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE AMMUNITION TO SHOW THAT PROFICIENCY.
AND ALSO IT MAKES SENSE THAT IF SOME OF THEM NEED MORE TRAINING TO REMAIN PROFICIENT, WE WANT 'EM TO HAVE THAT TRAINING TO REMAIN PROFICIENT.
AND IN FACT, UH, I SAT IN ON COURT THAT DAY, AND IT WAS WHI WHICH DAY, THAT WAS A MULTIPLE, THAT WAS THE DAY, THE DAY THAT WE GOT INTO A DEEP DISCUSSION ON IS 50 OR 51 WHAT WE NEED, RIGHT? OH, YEAH.
INVENTORY, AMMUNITION WAS, WHICH MADE THE AUDITOR CRY WHEN WE SAID IT WAS GREAT COMEDY.
I GOTTA TELL YOU, IT WAS GREAT COMEDY SITTING BACK THERE AND WATCHING IT.
YOU, YOU MIGHT, YOUR NUMBER MIGHT BE RIGHT, RANDY.
WELL, I CAN JUST WAIT, JUST WAIT A MINUTE.
YOUR NUMBER MIGHT BE RIGHT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT.
BUT I KNOW THIS, WE NEED TO SUPPORT YOU AND WE NEED TO GIVE YOU THE AMMO YOU NEED.
AND I KNOW THAT IF YOU GOTTA SHOOT 50 SHELLS NO, TO STAY CERTIFIED, YOU BETTER SHOOT A LOT MORE THAN THAT TO BE TRAINED.
WE PERFECT OURSELVES IN DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
MATTER OF FACT, IF Y'ALL WANTED TO GO WITH US ONE TIME TO SEE WHAT WE DO, WE'D WELCOME YOU AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
AND, UH, BUT WE GO OUT THERE SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE I'M SHOOTING A AR, I'M SHOOTING MY SHOTGUN, I GOT AN OFF DUTY THAT I CARRY ON ME ALL THE TIME, AND I'VE GOT MY DUTY, UH, HOLSTER WEAPON TOO.
SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT GUNS THAT YOU HAVE DIFFERENT AMMO WITH.
AND, UH, AND AFTER THAT DEAL AND YOU VALIDATE, UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TRAINING AND, UM, SO I MEAN, ALL RIGHT.
DID, DID, AND NOT TO CUT YOU OFF, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RE RELATING TO THE LINE ITEMS? BUT I, HEY, CAN I TELL YOU ONE THING? YES, SIR.
WE DO HAVE STEVE FRAZIER, THAT IS THE NEW CONSTABLE AND, UH, PRECINCT, THREE LAUREN'S PRECINCT.
AND LET ME TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN GOING OVER A LOT OF STUFF WITH HIM TO GET HIM UP TO SPEED, AND Y'ALL PICK THE RIGHT GUY EVER SINCE THE RETIREMENT DEAL.
YOU PICK THE RIGHT CONSTABLE, I BELIEVE HE'S A GOOD CHRISTIAN MAN.
HE WAS WITH GARLAND PD IN THE PAST, AND HE KNOWS ABOUT WHAT HE'S SITTING BACK THERE GETTING READY TO COME UP.
AND THE WAY IT WAS LINED UP ON HERE, HE WAS GONNA BE THE FIRST ONE TO TALK.
AND, AND, UH, WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY.
SO I'M GLAD Y'ALL CALLED ME UP HERE, BUT I, I'M TELLING YOU THAT THINGS ARE REALLY PICKING UP IN WHATEVER WAY YOU CAN DO IT OR HELP US FINANCIALLY OR WITH YOU, FIGURE OUT THE AMMO AND WHAT YOU THINK'S, RIGHT.
I, I WOULD SUSPECT YOUR MEETING WILL BE BRIEF, BUT THAT'S, I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IT, BUT I WOULD SUSPECT IT WOULD BE BRIEF.
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I'M JUST KIDDING.I HOPE YOU LIKED MY PRESENTATION.
IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE GIVING ME? I DON'T KNOW.
I KNOW WHAT YOU WERE PROVIDED, BUT, UH, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE MOST YES, IT, IT'S, WELL, WELCOME.
I'M, I'M IN AN AMBUSH, SO YOU, YOU ARE.
AND, AND WE, WE, UH, WE LURED YOU INTO THE AMBUSH.
SO I, I APPRECIATE, FIRST OFF, I WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I KNOW IT'S AN UNUSUAL SITUATION.
IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.
AND I THINK, UH, DAN OTTO WAS, UH, APPOINTED AS WELL.
SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN, UH, A BUSY TIME, A LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
I'M FROM THE POLICE WORLD, AND SO THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UH, PICKING ME.
AND IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE, UH, THE COURT.
AND IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE THE CITIZENS, UH, ROCKWALL COUNTY.
NOW, REGARDING THIS LITTLE SHEET THAT I JUST GAVE YOU, UH, I HAVE MYSELF A LITTLE CONUNDRUM HERE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 10 DAYS.
AND SO A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS ALL THE EXPERIENCE FROM ALL THE OTHER CONSTABLES TALKING AND, AND, UH, MAKING SUGGESTIONS.
UM, AND WHEN I SAY A CONUNDRUM, I DON'T WANT TO ALIENATE MY, UH, FRIENDS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE I'M WALKING IN WITH NOT A WHOLE LOT OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE BUDGET OR HOW THINGS WORK IN THAT OFFICE.
SO, UM, SOME OF THESE FIGURES ARE BASED ON A LOT OF THE EXPERIENCE OF THE GUYS THAT CAME BEFORE ME.
AND SOME OF THIS IS FROM DAN OTTO, UH, WHEN BEFORE HE LEFT.
SO I'M WILLING TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF THESE, AND IF I GOT AN ANSWER, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.
AND IF I DON'T, I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
HOW ABOUT THAT? HOW ABOUT THAT? SO SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE 10 DAYS, WE'RE GONNA JUMP RIGHT PAST THE CONSTABLE SALARY
BUT, UH, AND, AND GET DOWN TO UNIFORMS AND ACCESSORIES.
UH, AND, AND I'M JUST MAKING THE ASSUMPTION IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE NEW AND CONSTABLE OTTO TURNED IN SOME STUFF, BUT WE PROBABLY NEED TO, UH, GET NEW UNIFORMS. NEW MIGHT NOT FIT.
MIGHT, MIGHT NOT, MIGHT NOT FIT.
WELL, CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT ON THAT, JUDGE? YES, PLEASE.
THE SHIRT I'M WEARING IS RANDY'S, SO I'M TRYING TO GET, I'VE TAKEN THINGS YEP.
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'VE PURCHASED OUTTA MY POCKET TO TRY TO GET THINGS GOING.
I'M FROM THE POLICE WORLD WHERE A QUARTERMASTER GIVES YOU THINGS.
AND SO THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME, AND THE GUYS HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.
SO LOOK, LOOKING AT OUR 2025 YEAR TO DATE, THOUGH, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'VE SPENT ANYTHING ON UNIFORMS. AND MY ONLY REASON FOR BRINGING THAT UP MM-HMM
YOU'RE, YOU, YOU CAN GET SOME NOW, INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THIS BUDGET TO KICK IN, WHICH IS NOT GONNA BE TILL OCTOBER ONE CORRECT.
IS WHEN THIS BUDGET WILL KICK IN, BUT YOU'VE GOT $900 THAT, THAT YOU CAN GET UNIFORMS AND YES, SIR.
UM, GET, GET YOURSELF EN ENOUGH TO GET US TO THE NEXT BUDGET.
UH, SO JUDGE, JUDGE, IS THAT NEXT BUDGET, 1900 OR 900? AGAIN, I CAN'T TELL.
THAT'S 900 ON THE UNIFORM BUDGET.
SO, UM, THE OTHER THING, EQUIPMENT, FURNITURE, WELL, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON THE AMMO? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE, BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF RANDY CLARIFIED THIS, BUT IN ALL MY YEARS OF, OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TRAINING, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN QUALIFICATIONS AND TRAINING.
AND YOU JUST POINTED ALL THAT OUT.
SO, UM, I ENCOURAGE POLICE OFFICERS, CONSTABLES, SHERIFFS DEPUTIES TO SHOOT OFTEN.
AND, AND IF IT HAS TO COME OUTTA MY POCKET, I MEAN, I'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT, BUT, UH, JUST FOR CONSIDERATION.
NO, I, I DON'T, UH, I DON'T SEE US REDUCING THAT TOO MUCH.
FURNITURE, WE'RE ASKING FOR $500.
SO I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES ON MY PHONE.
LOOK, I'M THE NEW GUY, SO I DON'T WANT
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TO COME IN HERE AND TELL YOU I NEED THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS.I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO DO THAT.
BUT WHAT I DID WITNESS, WHEN I WALKED IN, I NEED THE PRACTICAL THINGS TO WORK.
AND, AND, UM, SO I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES OF WHAT I HAVE.
UH, I HAD TO CHANGE OUT A CHAIR THAT WAS BASICALLY BROKEN, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST WANT ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE AND LOOK, YOU KNOW, LOOK PROFESSIONAL, UH, ENOUGH TO DO MY JOB.
BUT I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES IF YOU WANTED TO SEE 'EM ON MY PHONE.
SO ONE OF THE REASONS I BRING THAT UP, WE HAVE A $500 LIMIT THAT WE, WE RAISED THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO MM-HMM
TO WHERE YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME TO THE COURT.
UH, IF, IF YOU'RE SPENDING UP TO $500.
SO, UH, I DON'T SEE WHERE WE'VE SPENT ANYTHING THIS YEAR,
HE DOESN'T, HE DOESN'T HAVE A FUNDING LINE IN EQUIPMENT, BUT, BUT FRAZIER, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE SOME STUFF AROUND TO HELP YOU OUT SO YOU CAN BUY IT NOW.
I FOUND THAT OUT RIGHT BEFORE I CAME OVER HERE, WHICH IS PART, THIS IS OUR AMBUSH
WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT ON HERE IN THE CAPITAL OUTLAY.
UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SUGGESTED, AND I KNOW ALL THIS IS FOR CONSIDERATION.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT UNTIL I GOT ABOUT 30 MINUTES AGO.
IF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING, YOU NEED A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR THE OFFICE AND IT'S, IT'S LESS THAN $500, UM, JUST COME TO ME.
I, I'VE ALREADY, WE'VE MET SEVERAL TIMES IN THE ELEVATOR, AND I'M ALWAYS LIKE, WHAT DO YOU, YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST MAKE THIS A SECOND OFFICE.
BECAUSE, BUT, AND I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA BRING TO BUY YOU A VEST YES.
I'VE GOT A VEST WAITING ON ME.
I JUST, WE HAD AGREED AT 500 AND THEN, UM, AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE I NEEDED, UM, AN AFFIDAVIT, WAS IT AN AFFIDAVIT TO GET APPROVAL FOR ANYTHING ABOVE FIVE, 500 ABOVE.
BUT THEY'VE RECONSIDERED AND SAID FOUR 50.
SO AT THAT POINT, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET IT.
HE WANTS TO BUY IT FROM HIS PREVIOUS EMPLOYER.
SO WE WERE GONNA BRING IT TO THE BOARD.
AND WE PROBABLY WILL NEED TO STILL BRING IT SINCE IT'S A PURCHASE FROM ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.
BUT WE CAN PUT IT ON YOUR NEXT COURT FOR APPROVAL.
AND ROCKWELL, ID WANTED SOMETHING FROM YOU GUYS INSTEAD OF FROM ME.
WANTED SOMETHING FROM THE COUNTY.
UH, SO I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
SO LET'S, LET'S JUMP DOWN TO, UH, THE CAPITAL OUTLAY.
SO ON THAT ONE, AGAIN, IT WAS THE DISCUSSIONS OF ALL OF THE OTHER CONSTABLES THAT CAME IN AND, AND LOOKED AT EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON.
UM, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO CONSTABLE EGAN THAT WAS THERE, THAT PASSED AWAY, UM, THIS WERE, THIS WAS FURNITURE FROM HIS TIME IN OFFICE.
AND, AND DAN OTTO, THE GENTLEMAN, I RELIEVED, UH, DIDN'T DO ANYTHING THAT I KNOW OF.
UH, BUT ANYWAY, THAT, LISTEN, JUST SOMETHING PRACTICAL.
SO IT'S PRIMARILY JUST OFFICE FURNITURE? YES, SIR.
AND, AND BECAUSE THERE WAS A $500 AMOUNT FOR THE FURNITURE, UH, I WAS TOLD EARLIER THAT MAYBE WE COULD DIP INTO ANOTHER FUND TO HELP IF THERE WAS AN, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT.
AND EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY CIRCLES FUND 51
HEY, INCLUDING MYSELF, THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME.
I'M PART OF THAT GROUP AS WELL.
WE'RE LIKE A PACK OF HYENAS RIGHT AROUND THAT FUND.
I'M, I'M JUST TALKING SO YOU GUYS CAN MAKE A DECISION AND CONSIDER IT.
WHO HAS QUESTIONS FOR CONSTABLE FRAZIER? MAN, LOOK AT THAT.
SEE HOW EASY THAT IS? THAT, THAT IS EASY.
THANK YOU FOR WILLING, BEING WILLING TO SERVE.
THANK YOU FOR WALKING INTO THIS AMBUSH WITH A SMILE.
UH, AND I THINK YOU, YOU KNOW, I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU EVER NEED ANYTHING FROM THE COURT, JUST, WELL, I APPRECIATE IT.
I KNOW, I KNOW YOU GUYS, UH, HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
AND, UM, ALSO, UH, EVEN THOUGH I JUST WALKED INTO THIS SITUATION, UM, I WAS OKAY GOING FIRST BECAUSE I WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT IT.
WELL, A LITTLE BIT UNFAIR THOUGH, CONSTABLE.
I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT.
BUT THE CON, THE CAPITAL LEASES, I KNOW THAT'S, UM, WE'VE GOT, YOU PUT 6,300 IN THERE AND YEAR TO DATE'S, YOU KNOW, BEEN A LITTLE LESS IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
WHAT IS CAPITAL LEASES? LISA, OR YEAH, THE BODY CAMERAS.
IS THAT ALL AT 10 53 WE'RE ADJOURNED.