[A) INVOCATION]
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ALL RIGHT.WELCOME TO THE HISTORIC COURTROOM.
IT IS AUGUST 12TH, 2025, 9:00 AM I'M GONNA CALL OUR REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO ORDER.
I'M GONNA ASK COMMISSIONER GOANA TO LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION.
LORD, WE ASK A BLESSING OVER OUR ROCKWALL COUNTY KIDS AND TEACHERS TODAY AS THEY START BACK TO SCHOOL.
KEEP THEM SAFE, MOTIVATED, GIVE THEM COURAGE.
BLESS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND PROTECT 'EM AS THEY WORK TO PROTECT US.
WE SEEK A HEDGE OF PROTECTION FOR OUR MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN, BOTH HERE AND ABROAD.
LORD, AS THIS COURT BEGINS WORK ON MANY IMPORTANT ITEMS TODAY, I ASK AGAIN FOR YOUR BLESSING OVER US ALL.
GIVE US THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION, COURAGE TO STAND FOR OUR CONVICTIONS.
FINALLY, LORD MADE THE HOLY SPIRIT FILL THIS ROOM TODAY WITH YOUR PRESENCE AND YOUR HOLY NAME.
LET'S PLEDGE OUR ALLEGIANCE TO THE AMERICAN FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NOW, THE TEXAS FLAG, HONORING THE TEXAS FLAG, NOT PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
[D) RECOGNITION OF GUESTS]
M**K HAS A GUEST SHE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE.SO COMMISSIONER M**K, TAKE IT AWAY PLEASE.
MY GUEST IS STANDING UP RIGHT NOW, BUT I WOULD
I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO RECOGNIZE MARK O'CONNOR.
UM, EVERYONE, UM, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE WHEN YOU WALKED IN, YOU WOULD SEE THE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES BACK IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM THAT REPRESENT ALL THE COUNTY JUDGES THAT, UM, WE HAVE.
AND WE EVEN HAVE OUR, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE LAST ONE.
SO BEFORE WE MOVE OVER AND, AND HAVE TO ADD MORE, BUT MAYBE NOT ANYTIME SOON, JUDGE.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, MARK, I WANNA THANK YOU AND ON BEHALF OF THE, THE, THE HISTORIC FOUNDATION THAT YOU GUYS DID, THIS IS A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL ADDITION TO THIS COURTROOM.
AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER.
[1. PUBLIC FORUM]
ROLL RIGHT INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE PUBLIC FORUM.IT IS THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ABOUT ANY COUNTY MATTERS.
NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP, BUT THAT DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM SPEAKING.
SO ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, JUST MAKE YOUR WAY TOWARD THE MICROPHONE, SEEING NO ONE MOVING.
[2. Discussion of 89th Legislative Session, Update/Overview County-related bills, action on resolution in support of or opposition to any pending actions or bills, and all related issues; (Commissioners Court)]
MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, DISCUSSION OF THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, UPDATE SLASH OVERVIEW, COUNTY RELATED BILLS, ACTION ON RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF OR OPPOSITION TO ANY PENDING, PENDING ACTIONS OR BILLS AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.LET'S START IN OUR TYPICAL LOCATION, COMMISSIONER
THE EXCITING WORLD OF THE, UH, THE LEGISLATURE.
UM, SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT JUST A, UH, JUST A FEW THINGS.
UM, THE COURT, THE, UH, LEGISLATURE, OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST THING IN THE MEDIA RIGHT NOW IS THE REDISTRICTING, UM, WHICH, UM, OUR CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IS PART OF, AND OUR DISTRICT WILL CHANGE, UM, A LITTLE.
SO WE WILL HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF DALLAS, WHICH INCLUDES ADDISON, UH, FARMER'S BRANCH, UM, AND ALL OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IF THIS REDISTRICTING PROPOSED MAP GOES THROUGH.
UM, AND WE WILL GO, UH, FARTHER EAST INTO CAMP WOOD, UPSHIRE, UH, COUNTIES, RAINS COUNTY.
UM, AS WELL, THE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW IS A, UM, PRETTY SOLID CONSERVATIVE PLUS 23 REPUBLICAN DISTRICT.
IT WILL CHANGE, UM, TO A PLUS NINE OR 10, MORE THAN LIKELY A REPUBLICAN DISTRICT.
UM, BUT THIS MAP GOES THROUGH, AND THAT IS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.
THEY HAVE ABOUT 80,000 REGISTERED VOTERS, AND THEY'RE, THEY, UM, SINCE 2016 HAVE HAD A BIG PUSH TO MOVE TOWARDS THE, UH, DEMOCRAT SIDE, UM, IN RICHARDSON.
AND SO THEY HAVE ALMOST AS MANY REGISTERED VOTERS IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AS WE DO IN THE COUNTY OF ROCKWALL.
AND SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF A BALANCING ACT.
WE DO HAVE THE COUNTIES TO THE EAST THAT ARE, UH, STRONG, STRONG REPUBLICAN COUNTIES TO, TO HELP WITH THAT.
UM, BUT RICHARDSON, ONCE WAS, UH, DECLINING IN POPULATION, HAS STARTED TO, UH, GROW AGAIN.
UM, SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.
UM, MAYBE WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO HAVE A QUORUM TODAY IN THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE, AND THEY'LL GET SOME WORK DONE.
THEY'RE THREE SHY NOW OF A QUORUM.
SO WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO PEOPLE ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK.
UM, HB ONE, UM, UH, IS A BILL THAT'S, UH, UM, ANOTHER BILL THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED DOWN THERE THAT WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME IMPACT ON WHAT GOES ON, UH, IN THE COUNTY.
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THINK DANA'S GONNA TALK MORE ABOUT THOSE BILLS, SO I'LL LET HER DO THAT.UM, OUR COURT, UM, OUR DISTRICT COURT, UM, HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED YET IN THIS FIRST SPECIAL SESSION, WHICH OF COURSE IS MAKING ME NERVOUS.
'CAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO, I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE TO WAIT IF ANYBODY KNOW ME.
BUT I DID NOTICE THAT THE BRAZORIA COUNTY, UH, REP AND SENATOR HAVE FILED A SEPARATE BILL, UM, TO GET THEIR COURT, THE 490TH IS WHAT THEIR COURT WILL BE CALLED, THEIR NEW COURT THROUGH.
SO I JUST SAW THAT LAST NIGHT.
AND SO I WILL BE ADDRESSING THAT WITH OUR REP AND OUR SENATOR.
UM, MAYBE WE NEED TO GO TO THAT ANGLE TOO, AND, AND HAVE AN, UH, IT PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN IN THIS SPECIAL SESSION, IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT IT, BUT THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ONE, UM, WHERE WE MAY NEED TO FILE OUR OWN SEPARATE BILL, UM, TO GET OUR 503RD DISTRICT COURT BACK, UH, ON TARGET.
WE'RE GONNA, LATER IN THE AGENDA, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT A BUDGET THAT HAS JUST SHY OF $1.7 MILLION THAT WE'RE GONNA ALLOCATE FOR THE 503RD.
UM, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE, I I, I SHARE WITH THE, EVERYONE, AGAIN, ONE OF THE BIGGEST, UM, BILLS THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED HAS TO DO WITH PROHIBITING MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES FROM US HAVING AND WORKING WITH, UM, FROM A LOBBYING STANDPOINT WITH OUR, WITH OUR, WITH OUR AGENCIES, WHETHER IT'S THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, THE CONFERENCE OF URBAN COUNTIES, AND IN THE FORM AS FAR AS OUR MUNICIPALITIES WITH TML, UM, THEY REALLY ARE.
UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A NUMBER OF BILLS OUT THERE THAT ARE WANTING TO, UM, NOT ALLOW US TO USE THOSE TYPE OF TAXPAYER FUNDING FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE VOICES THERE.
AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A HUGE, THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE CHALLENGE FOR NOT ONLY COUNTIES.
WE'RE STILL SMALL IN, IN THE SENSE, BUT EVEN ONES MUCH SMALLER THAN US.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA ENCOURAGE EVERYONE THAT'S HERE OR LISTENING TO PLEASE REACH OUT TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO LOBBY, UM, ON BEHALF OF COUNTIES AND CITIES.
ALSO, SOME OTHER BILLS THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE THERE THAT THERE'S LIKE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR, BUT ONE IN PARTICULAR IS HOUSE BILL 17, BUT IT, IT'S, IT'S REGARDING, UM, THE NOTICE OF PROPERTY TAX.
AND IT'S ALSO REGARDING, YOU KNOW, HOW THE VOTER APPROVAL, IF THE CHANGES ARE GONNA, IF THERE WILL BE TAX RATE CHANGES AND THE FORMULAS THAT NEED TO BE USED.
AND THERE'S PROBABLY, THERE'S ACTUALLY FOUR OTHER BILLS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.
SO THAT CAN HAVE SOME IMPACT ON, ON US SPECIFICALLY IF, IF THOSE, IF THEY, THOSE BILLS ARE PASSED.
UM, THAT, THAT, THAT UNIFORM RATE FORMULA THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT ALSO, UM, I, UM, WELL, IN REGARDS TO NOT HAVING SOME OF THE DI SOME OF THE, UM, CERTAIN PARTY MEMBERS NOT THERE, THERE'S SEVERAL BILLS OUT THERE THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HOW THEY MAY ADDRESS THIS IN THE FUTURE AS FAR AS EXCESSIVE LEGISLATIVE ABSENCES.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.
WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAPPENS OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE, UM, THAT I HAD HERE, NOT REDISTRICTING, WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THAT.
UM, COMMISSIONER, UM, GOLAN AND I, THERE'S A NEW BILL THAT SENATOR PAXTON, UM, FILED SENATE BILL 66, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE POWERS REGARDING REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITIES AND HOW THAT MAY HAVE AN IMPACT ON REDU REUSING COLLECTED SALES AND, AND USE TAXES AND HOW THOSE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE, UM, ASSIST ASSISTING WITH COUNTIES AND CITIES IN REGARDS TO MOBILITY PROGRAMS. SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT ONE IS LOOKING LIKE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA CHECK ON THAT ONE.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, UM, SENATE BILL 70, UM, AUTHORED BY BOB HALL IS, UM, DEALS WITH IMMINENT DOMAIN AND IT WANTS TO, HE WANTS TO PROHIBIT POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS IN TEXAS FROM EXERCISING THE POWER OF IMMINENT DOMAIN TO TAKE PRIVATE PROPERTY LOCATED OUTSIDE THEIR OWN BOUNDARIES.
SO THAT'S ONE THAT WAS JUST PUBLISHED ALSO.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW, COMMISSIONER GOANA.
I'LL GET RIGHT BACK TO THAT SINCE I, UM, I THOUGHT DANA WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT HB ONE COMMISSIONER M**K, SO, SORRY.
OH, I WILL, UH, ADDRESS THAT ONE REAL QUICK.
THAT HB ONE, WHAT IT DOES REALLY IS IT CHANGES THE WAY THAT OUR, UM, UH, JPS AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAVE TO COORDINATE AND WORK TOGETHER IN, IN A DISASTROUS SITUATION, WHICH OF COURSE CAME OUT OF THE FLOODS IN KIRK COUNTY.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS BILL.
AND IT, IT IS GONNA REQUIRE A COUNTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A MEDICAL EXAMINER, WHICH IS US, UM, TO SEND OUR JPS TO SOME, UM, EXTENDED TRAINING, UM, SO THAT THEY ARE PREPARED FOR THESE DISASTER SITUATIONS.
SO THE GOVERNOR'S GOAL IS TO KIND OF STANDARDIZE OUR PROCEDURES, UM, AS FAR AS WHAT WE DO DURING A DISASTER.
AND WHAT, UM, THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS THAT HAPPENED, UM, IN KERR COUNTY WHEN THEY WERE COVERED BODIES THAT THEY WERE
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SENT FOR AUTOPSY AND THE FAMILIES DIDN'T WANT THE BODIES SENT FOR AUTOPSY.AND SO THERE WAS NO REAL, THE GOVERNOR SUSPENDED THE RULES ON SENDING, UM, THOSE RECOVERED BODIES FOR AUTOPSY, WHICH THEN LED TO A LACK OF IDENTIFICATION ON SOME FOR A, FOR A WHILE.
AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE FAMILIES EITHER.
SO THERE WAS KIND OF AN ARGUMENT GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH, DO WE REALLY NEED AN AUTOPSY? THE FAMILIES DIDN'T WANT THAT, BUT WE NEED SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS, WHICH IS A SAD TRUTH.
AND SO THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT GOING ON, AND THIS LEGISLATION IS GOING TO ADDRESS HOW WE HANDLE ALL OF THOSE SITUATIONS, UM, IN A DISASTER TYPE SITUATION, LIKE A FLOOD OR THINK OF TORNADOES HERE OR SOMETHING SIMILAR.
COMMISSIONER M**K, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER? COMMISSIONER LICHTY, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER M**K AND STACY, I'M SORRY, ALANA.
I AM GOING TO FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF MY COLLEAGUE, COMMISSIONER STACY, AND NOT PICK A FIGHT TODAY.
COMMISSIONER STACEY, YOU SHOULD HAVE CAME TO ME FIRST.
'CAUSE THAT WAS ALL I WAS GONNA SAY IS I'M NOT GONNA PICK A FIGHT Y'ALL HAVE DONE.
WELL, YOU'VE COVERED EVERYTHING, SO THANK Y'ALL.
[3. Discuss/Act on updates of the Strategic Plan 2050 Implementation Management Plan, and all related issues; (Commissioner Macalik)]
WE WILL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN 2050 IMPLEMENTATION MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.UM, ON JULY 31ST, UM, MYSELF AND FOUR OTHER OF ROCKWELL COUNTY EMPLOYEES, WELL, THREE EMPLOYEES AND, UM, ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL.
WE ATTENDED THE INVISIO, WHICH IS THE SOFTWARE COMPANY THAT WE WILL BE USING FOR THE FORWARD FACING, UM, TRANSPARENCY OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
WE ATTENDED A, A, UM, A SUMMIT.
THEY CALLED IT A SUMMIT, AND IT WAS ABOUT, UM, OTHER COUNTIES AND MOSTLY MUNICIPALITIES WERE THERE OF HOW THEY ARE, HOW THEY ARE IMPLEMENTING AND MANAGING THEIR STRATEGIC PLANS.
AND IT WAS A, IT WAS A, IT WAS A FULL DAY OF BEST PRACTICES SHARING, SHARING THINGS THAT, UM, THOSE DIFFERENT, THOSE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, UM, POLITICAL ORGANIZATIONS HAD HAD USED.
BUT IT WAS REALLY, IT, IT TALKED A LOT OF THE, I WANTED TO KIND OF GO OVER THE TOP THINGS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE PLANNING DRIVERS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE PERFORMANCES, HOW WE ARE COMMUNICATING THE PERFORMANCES OF THOSE.
UM, IT OBVIOUSLY WE HAD TO, THEY STARTED OUT WITH INTRODUCING PERFORMANCE MA MEASURES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU MEASURE THINGS IN AN ORGANIZATION AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO OUR, OUR CITIZENS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND HOW THE STORYTELLING, AND THAT WAS A WORD THAT THEY USED, BUT THAT, THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THE PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENTS THAT ARE USED.
UM, WE, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING, UM, SOME REALLY GREAT SPEAKERS.
ONE OF 'EM, THEN THE HOST OF THIS EVENT WAS THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, AND I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH MCKINNEY'S NEW, UM, CITY HALL.
UM, I THINK THEY TOLD ME $187 MILLION FOR THEIR NEW CITY HALL
BUT THEY, UM, THEY HOSTED US THAT DAY, BUT ALSO, UM, ONE OF THEIR DIRECTOR LEVELS, UM, HAD SOME VERY INTERESTING COMMENTS, UM, OF, FROM AN ENGAGEMENT STANDPOINT, THAT'S THIS GEN, THIS THAT WAS THIS GENTLEMAN'S BACKGROUND.
BUT THE, THE PROCESSES AND THE PROCEDURES AND THE SUCCESSES THAT MCKINNEY HAD IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE ACTION PLANNING AND BEING ABLE TO OVERCOME RESISTANCE AMONG, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EMPLOYEES AND MAKING SURE THE ENGAGEMENT, UM, THE ENGAGEMENT STEPS, UM, WERE IMPORTANT.
AND WE, WE SHARED HE AND, AND MANY OTHERS IN SOME BREAKOUT GROUPS.
WE SHARED A LOT OF, OF, OF BEST PRACTICES.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS WAS.
AND CAMMIE, I'M NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE, ON THE SPOT, SO TO SPEAK, BUT I, I, I KIND OF WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT YOU WERE THERE BECAUSE, UM, CAMMI WILL BE PLAYING A REAL IMPORTANT ROLE AS FAR AS HER ROLE, AS FAR AS HER POSITION AND HER, UM, UM, EXPERIENCES.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE THAT I'M MISSING, UM, FOR, FOR YOU TO PUT ON THAT FOR RIGHT NOW.
WELL, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE WILL, I WILL BE REPORTING A LITTLE BIT MORE TO YOU GUYS IN THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN HAVE REAL FIRM, UM, THERE, THERE ARE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE, TO THE PLAN AS FAR AS THE IMPLEMENTATION THAT WE HAD, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND THAT WE WERE GIVEN FROM OUR CONSULTANT BAKER TILLY.
SO I WANNA HAVE A TIME WHERE I CAN VISIT WITH EACH OF YOU AND WE CAN KIND OF GO OVER THOSE CHANGES AT THAT TIME.
BUT IT WAS A, IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL, IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL AND EYE-OPENING, UM, CONFERENCE THAT WE ATTENDED THAT DAY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOUR CONTINUED EFFORTS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER M**K? OKAY, THANK YOU.
[4. Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)]
WILL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE COURTHOUSE, COURTROOM ADDITIONS, THIRD FLOOR PROJECT, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.COMMISSIONER GUANA, COME ON UP.
SAL, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT SHIRT.
WE HAVE TO GET SOME WALKUP MUSIC FOR SALVADOR.
VERY EVENTUALLY WE'LL GET THERE.
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HE'S GOTTA GIVE ME A FEW OPTIONS TO PICK FROM, YOU KNOW.UH, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.
UM, SO WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR OAC C FOR THE, THE COURTHOUSE THIRD FLOOR INFILL YESTERDAY.
UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT TO UPDATE OTHER THAN THE, UH, THE STRUCTURAL STEEL PARTITIONS FOR THE, UH, CORRECTIONAL PORTION OF IT.
UH, WE WERE NOTIFIED THE DAY BEFORE DELIVERY THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DELAYED ABOUT A MONTH.
UM, WE DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA AFFECT THE OVERALL SCHEDULE MUCH YET.
UH, IF THEY DELAY IT AGAIN, IT PROBABLY WILL.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF AT THE MERCY OF THE, THE SECURITY CONSULTANT THAT DOES THOSE PARTITIONS.
UM, THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF THOSE OR LESS THAT DO THAT, THAT KIND OF WORK, UM, IN ACROSS THE ENTIRE US.
AND WE HAVE WHO WE HAVE AT THIS POINT.
IT'S KINDA LIKE AN ELEVATOR COMPANY.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF OPTIONS WE HAVE.
UM, SO, UH, WE'RE JUST KIND OF AT THE MERCY OF WHEN THEY CAN GET US THESE PARTITIONS DELIVERED.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, PAY APP'S, UH, BEING REVIEWED RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON SCHEDULE AND, UH, AND RUNNING SMOOTHLY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAL? ALL RIGHT.
[5. Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the American Rescue Plan monies and the planned County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]
TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONIES AND THE PLANNED COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.COMMISSIONER STACY? YEAH, SO WE HAVE AN OPEN BUILDING, WHICH IS, WHICH IS SUPER EXCITING.
UM, WE HAVE THE AUDITOR ELECTIONS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, INDIGENT AND, UH, VETERANS ALL WORKING AND OPERATING WITHIN THIS BUILDING.
UM, I JUST, UH, YESTERDAY APPROVED A PCO ON SOME SIGNS THAT WILL BE GOING INTO THE BUILDING.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE MORE DISCUSSION WITH SALVADOR, UM, AND BARRY AND I TOMORROW ABOUT SOME OF THE FURNITURE REQUESTS SINCE EVERYONE'S MOVED IN, KIND OF LOOKING THROUGH WHAT THEY HAVE.
UM, AND THAT SHOULD BE OUR LAST PCO.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE DONE WITH THE BUILDING, BUT IT SHOULD NOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BECAUSE I SAID IT IN PUBLIC, BUT, UM, IT SHOULD STOP US FROM SPENDING MONEY ON THE BUILDING.
AND THEN WHAT WE'VE GOTTA DO IS MOVE THE TAX OFFICE.
IT'S A, IT'S A TWO STEP PROCESS.
THE STATE HAS TO COME IN AND DO SOME WORK.
WE'RE HOPING IT'S NEXT WEEK, AND THEN THEY WILL GET THE ALL CLEAR.
AND THEN THE SECOND THE STATE CAN COME MOVE THE TAX OFFICE, WE WILL MOVE THE TAX OFFICE.
UM, I TALKED TO, UH, THE TAX ASSESSOR, KIM SWEET, AND SHE BASICALLY SAID WHATEVER DATE THEY GIVE US, WE SAY YES, BECAUSE APPARENTLY AT ONE POINT IN TIME THEY SAID NO.
AND THEN IT TOOK ALMOST A YEAR FOR THEM TO COME BACK AROUND.
PROBABLY NOT QUITE THAT LONG, BUT SHE SAID IT TOOK A REALLY LONG TIME FOR THEM TO COME BACK TO US.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE 100% AT THEIR MERCY WHEN THEY SAY THEY'RE READY TO MOVE, THE TAX OFFICE IS GOING TO MOVE WHATEVER DATE THAT IS, WHENEVER WE ARE NOTIFIED OF THAT.
AND THAT'S THE LAST BIG MOVEMENT IN THERE.
BUT THAT, THAT BUILDING'S LOOKING REALLY GOOD.
WE'RE FINISHING OUT THE PUNCH LIST.
IT'S NOT QUITE DONE YET, BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE.
SO IT'S KIND OF GETTING EXCITING TO GET THAT OFF THE, OFF THE TO-DO LIST.
DID I COVER EVERYTHING, NICO? OKAY, GOOD.
IT, IT, IT IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, EXCITING THAT, UH, IN A COUPLE MONTHS WE MAY LOOK AT THE AGENDA AND THE ANNEX AND ARPA MAY NOT, MAY NOT BE ON IT ANYMORE.
AND I'M GONNA KEEP IT ON HERE UNTIL WE DO OUR FINAL CHANGE ORDER.
SO I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER, BUT IT'LL BE A VERY QUICK ITEM UNTIL WE GET OUR FINAL CHANGE ORDER, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT OFF, JUST, SO I JUST THINK THAT IS A LITTLE CLEANER TO, TO GET THROUGH ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
[6. Discuss/Act on the Sheriffs remodel project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]
MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX, DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.COMMISSIONER STACY, AND AT THIS POINT, I AM GONNA ASK NICO TO COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT WE HAVE STARTED THE PROJECT.
UM, SO YOU WANNA GIVE US A QUICK LITTLE UPDATE ON, ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE REMODEL? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
UH, SO THEY STARTED DEMO YESTERDAY.
UH, THEY WILL CONTINUE THAT FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, PROBABLY UNTIL THE NEXT TIME WE MEET.
UH, AND THEN THEY'LL START JUMPING INTO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.
UM, THE MAIN THING RIGHT NOW IS GETTING THE PERMITTING RESOLVED.
IT'S IN THE THIRD RE UH, THIRD ROUND OF REVIEW COMMENTS.
UH, SO WE'RE JUST WAITING TO GET THE OFFICIAL, UH, GO AHEAD ON THAT.
BUT WE HAVE GOTTEN A GREEN LIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND START, UH, START THE DEMO.
SO, UM, WE'RE ON SCHEDULE SO FAR.
WE KNOW WHAT THE GOAL IS, AND SO WE'RE JUST READY TO EXECUTE.
ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS FOR NICO? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, NICO.
[7. Discussion of Historic Courthouse doors locking and unlocking schedule and personnel in charge of opening and closing the Historic Courthouse after the Tax Assessor's Office moves to the County Annex, and all related issues; (Commissioners Stacy)]
SEVEN, DISCUSSION OF HISTORIC COURTHOUSE DOORS LOCKING AN UN UNLOCKING SCHEDULE AND PERSONNEL IN CHARGE OF OPENING AND CLOSING THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AFTER THE TAX ASSESSOR'S OFFICE MOVES TO THE COUNTY ANNEX AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.COMMISSIONER STACY, AT SOME POINT THE TAX OFFICE IS MOVING, SO, UM, THIS BUILDING HAS TO
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BE OPEN AND CLOSED IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.UM, I, I, UH, I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER ALANA AND MYSELF, AND I KNOW, UH, WITH BARRY, I'VE TALKED TO CAPTAIN BROWN.
I, I, WE, WE'VE BEEN SENDING IDEAS AROUND, BUT AT SOME POINT, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IS PUT IT ON COURT AND TALK ABOUT IT.
SO, SO WHAT, WHAT ARE SOME IDEAS WE HAVE TO USE THIS BUILDING AND, AND, UM, I MEAN, I CAN START, I THINK WE USE THE HANDICAP AS THE ACCESS POINT INTO THE BUILDING IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT, WHICH MEANS THAT UNLESS WE'RE HOLDING A PUBLIC MEETING, ALL THE DOORS ARE LOCKED EXCEPT THE HANDICAP DOOR.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS BEST, BUT, UM, I'M GONNA JUST START THE CONVERSATION THERE AND LET YOU GUYS PILE ON
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DO THAT, BUT YOU CAN PROBABLY CONVINCE ME LATER.
KEEP IN MIND, I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP OUR BUILDING OPEN.
UM, DON'T WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO AUTO LOCKS? I MEAN, THIS IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
SO WHAT, WHAT, NO, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT, DANA.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE.
AND MARY, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I RESPECT AND TRUST YOU.
LIKE WHAT, WHAT IS IT? YOU JUST HAVE A LITTLE DEAL AND IT, YOU CAN RE LOCK EVERY DOOR IN THE BUILDING REMOTELY.
YOU CAN UNLOCK EVERY DOOR REMOTELY.
EVERY DOOR LOCKS, WHATEVER YOU SET IT FOR.
UH, I, I DON'T THINK OUR DOORS DO THAT WELL, BUT IT'S NOT HARD TO, WE, WE RETROFITTED A BUILDING WITH IT REASONABLY.
THAT LEADS TO A FURTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE DOORS, UHHUH
UH, SO, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS MY INTENTION WAS TO MAKE THIS A GROUP PROJECT.
SO, AND WHAT, WHAT I'LL DO IS I WILL GIVE YOU A FULL REPORT BACK ON HOW WE, WE CAN OR CANNOT, OR WHAT THE COST LOOKS LIKE.
IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THERE'S ABOUT 20 WAYS WE COULD DO THIS.
AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET US ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO WE WILL, I, I WILL VET THAT OUT FOR YOU IN NEXT COURT.
I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU SOME, SOME ANSWERS.
AND LET'S, LET'S, UH, BRING OUR TENANTS INTO THE CONVERSATION AND QUITE POSSIBLY OUR FUTURE TENANTS.
YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE ALL THE ELECTEDS KIND OF A ONE STOP SHOP HERE.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET WITH OUR STATE REPS AND, AND SEE IF, UH, I, I DEFINITELY THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF A LOCKING MECHANISM.
BECAUSE I, I HAVE WORKED HERE, YOU KNOW, LATER, AFTER 5:00 PM OFTEN, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTERTIME WHEN IT STARTS GETTING DARK ABOUT FIVE 30, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT IT'S SAFE ALSO FOR, FOR ANYONE, MYSELF INCLUDED, BUT ANYONE TO BE WORKING IN HERE.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE DOORS I LEFT LAST NIGHT, AND, AND THE DOOR I USUALLY GO OUT WAS STILL CRACKED ABOUT THIS MUCH.
SO IT JUST DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T CLOSE ALL THE WAY WHEN SOMEONE DID IT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
SO, JOHN, I APPLAUD YOU FOR PUTTING THIS ON HERE.
'CAUSE I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT I ALSO THINK THIS IS A HISTORIC BUILDING TOO.
AND I, AND I, I, I, I CAN'T QUANTIFY THIS NUMBER, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT COME AND LIKE TO LOOK AT THE BUILDING.
I SAW SOME PEOPLE TAKING PICTURES AT THE, IN THE PHONE BOOTH YESTERDAY AFTERNOON WITH THEIR CHILDREN, AND THEY LIKE TO COME AND LOOK AT THE, THE PHOTOS WE HAVE ON THE WALLS DOWN HERE.
SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT HOW WE WOULD, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU COULD, WE COULD PUT SIGNS UP THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND TO THE, THE ONE DOOR, BUT I'M NOT REALLY SURE THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST, MOST EFFECTIVE.
BUT I, I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION EITHER, SO I'M JUST KIND OF THROWING THAT OUT.
BUT, BUT I, WHAT I'M HEARING IS, IS YOU WOULD RATHER JUST KEEP IT AS ACCESSIBLE AS IT IS.
YOU, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA CHANGE THAT, WHICH IS, WHICH IS TOTALLY FAIR.
AND THEN IT COMES DOWN TO, WELL, WHO OPENS IT AND THEN WHO LOCKS IT? BECAUSE WE HAVE VARIABLE SCHEDULES.
SO OPENING, UH, I CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT.
AND BY I, I MEAN FELICIA, UH, 'CAUSE SHE GETS HERE AT SEVEN 30 SO SHE CAN UNLOCK ALL THE DOORS.
THEN WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHO, WHO LOCKS 'EM UP WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY LEAVE.
I MEAN, THIS GETS INTO A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FUTURE USE OF THIS BUILDING AND WHAT WE, UH, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHAT THAT'S WHAT THE WILL OF THE COURT IS.
'CAUSE WE MAY HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS ON WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE FUTURE USE OF THIS BUILDING BE.
BUT I KNOW IN MY INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR ELECTEDS, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD DEFINITELY PREFER SOMETHING MORE SECURE.
UH, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ALL IN THIS BUILDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SECURE ACCESS WHERE THEY ARE NOW.
AND IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO KEEP THE
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BUILDING, UM, LOCKED ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, PEOPLE DO COME IN AND WANNA LOOK AT PICTURES AND, AND WANNA LOOK AT THINGS AND IT'S A HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.AND SO, UM, ONCE WE DECIDE ON A DIRECTION, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF AGREE WITH, WITH LAUREN, I WOULD LOVE FOR THERE TO BE SOME WAY FOR THE DOORS TO AUTOMATICALLY LOCK, ESPECIALLY IN THE EVENING, UM, WHEN SOME OF US ARE WORKING HERE LATE AND THOSE DOORS JUST DON'T CLOSE PROPERLY RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD TAKE, BUT SOMETHING TO EXPLORE.
AS LONG AS WE'RE ON THIS TOPIC, CAN I ASK WHY ARE THE DOORS THE BOTTOM HANDICAPPED DOOR OPEN THE LAST TWO DAYS BROKEN? IT'S BROKEN
THAT'S, IT'S NOT PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER.
IT BEING RECONCI, ITS SUMMARY.
SO IT DOES LOCK AT NIGHT THOUGH, IN CASE ANYBODY'S GETTING ANY, ANY IDEAS? YEAH, WE CAN LOCK IT AT NIGHT.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER STACY, FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD.
[8. Discuss/Act on the use, supervision, and scheduling of the Annex Multipurpose Room for the future amendment of the Facility Use Rule and Procedures, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE USE SUPERVISIONS AND SCHEDULING OF THE ANNEX MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM FOR THE FUTURE AMENDMENT OF THE FACILITY, USE RULE AND PROCEDURES AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.COMMISSIONER STACY, I HAVE CHANGED NOT A WORD FROM LAST COURT OTHER THAN, UM, I PUT THE WORD ACT IN THE, IN THE
AND WITH THE 14 ITEMS I HAD LAST, I, I OVERLOOKED PUTTING, DISCUSS AND ACT.
SO, UH, NOW, UM, WITHOUT ANY COMMENTS, I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT, UM, I THINK WE'RE READY TO, TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND GET THIS IN PLACE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I HAVE A COUPLE, UM, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I DIDN'T ASK THESE LAST, LAST TIME.
I GOT FOCUSED ON ANOTHER, I WENT DOWN ANOTHER TRAIL THAT DAY.
BUT, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE, UM, WELL, A NUMBER OF THE ITEMS, BUT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT ON UNDER RESERVATIONS OF 4.5, UM, THE, THE PROCEDURES THAT, LIKE THE LIBRARY MEETING ROOM HAS RIGHT NOW, AND I, I KNOW I SEE YOU MARCINE IN HERE, SO THANK YOU FOR COMING.
BUT, UM, THE, IF YOU WANT TO RESERVE THAT, THAT, THAT BOARDROOM, THAT SMALL BOARDROOM AT THE LIBRARY, WE GO THROUGH MARCINE OR SOMEONE IN HER, IN HER MM-HMM
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ON THERE, BUT I, I CONSIDERED THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF A, OF A ROOM THAT CAN BE USED.
IS THAT, IS THAT A A FAIR STATEMENT? MARCINE? IT'S NOT IN A PUBLIC AREA.
THE ENTRY IS THROUGH STAFF AREA, UHHUH
SO WE HAVE BEEN LIMITING THAT TO, UM, LIBRARY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE FRIENDS.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S LIKE, THERE IS A PUBLIC CONFERENCE ROOM OUT IN THE PUBLIC AREA RIGHT.
THAT PEOPLE CAN RESERVE MM-HMM
I'M, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE.
SO THAT'S A DIFF SO THAT ONE WOULD BE, THAT ONE WOULD BE ON HERE AS FAR AS, AS A, AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESERVE? IT COULD BE, YES.
WE TREAT IT AS BASICALLY YOU'VE CHECKED OUT AN ITEM, BUT WE COULD TREAT IT DIFFERENTLY.
I, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS ONE TIME, WE TRY TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY, UM, PAUL, WE'RE ADDRESSING LIBRARY THINGS.
THE, UM, LIBRARY HOURS ARE HOPEFULLY GOING TO CHANGE OCTOBER 1ST, WHICH WOULD CHANGE THE AVAILABILITY OF THE LIBRARY ROOMS. OKAY, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
SO WE MIGHT WANNA INCLUDE THAT IN THE DRAFT.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S JUST DUE TO THE, UM, DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME? NO, THAT'S DUE TO THE REQUIREMENT FROM THE STATE LIBRARY THAT WE'D ASKED FOR THE I REMEMBER THAT NOW.
SO DO YOU WANT US TO CHANGE IT MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY, EIGHT TO SIX, TUESDAY, THURSDAY, EIGHT TO EIGHT, FRIDAY EIGHT TO FIVE, AND SATURDAY NINE TO FOUR? NO, SIR.
WELL, THIS DOES SAY NINE HERE.
UM, SO LOOKING AT AGAIN, HOW THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, IT IS SPECIFIC TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE USE SUPERVISION AND SCHEDULING OF THE ANNEX MULTIPURPOSE ROOM FOR THE FUTURE AMENDMENT OF THE FACILITY USED RULE.
OH, IT DID THAT AND PROCEDURE.
UM, SO I THINK WE'VE PAINTED HER, PAINTED OURSELVES BACK, BACK IN THE CORNER.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THE LIBRARY ANOTHER TIME.
WELL, I, YOU CAN STILL MAKE A MOTION.
JUST, I DON'T THINK WE CAN INCLUDE THE LIBRARY IN IT SINCE WE'VE SPECIFIED EXACTLY WHAT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS ABOUT.
AND THERE WAS JUST ONE MORE AGENDA ITEM ON THE ANNEX ON THE NEW BUILDING THAT I HAD A QUESTION FOR.
AND IT'S REGARDING, UM, THE, WHEN THE, WHEN IT'S BEING USED, AND I, I NUMBER FIT NUMBER 8.5 PERHAPS, BUT I WROTE HERE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE USING OUR,
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OUR IT EQUIPMENT, THE ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT, WE, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION I'M A PART OF THAT HAS, HAS THE IT EQUIPMENT AND WE TRY NOT TO LET INDIVIDUALS USE IT, UM, WITHOUT SOMEONE THERE THAT KNOWS HOW TO OPERATE THE EQUIPMENT AND THAT.'CAUSE IF YOU GET SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY COULD MESS, THEY COULD MESS YOUR, YOUR, OUR SYSTEMS UP.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO HAVE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING IT AND, AND HAVING A, A SLIDESHOW OR SOME TYPE OF A PRESENTATION IF WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM IT THAT WOULD BE THERE KIND OF OVERSEEING IT.
THAT'S JUST A, WELL, I, I DO THINK THAT'S WHAT 8.5 SAYS.
IS IT REGULATES THE ABILITY WITHOUT PRIOR ARRANGEMENTS.
SO, BUT, BUT THEY, BUT THEY CAN STILL USE IT.
WOULD WE JUST HAVE A FEE FOR IT IS WHAT I'M, I MEAN THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I WAS KIND OF GOING.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE DONE WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION IS THAT IF THEY WANTED TO USE IT, AND I WOULD SAY PROBABLY WELL OVER 50 TO 60% OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO USE THE, UM, THE, THE, THE OR THE CLUB I HAVE THAT THEY, THEY WANT TO USE AUDIO VISUAL AND THEY'RE PREPARED TO PAY THE FEE THAT IS, IS RESPECTIVE OF THAT.
SO WOULD THE FEE JUST COVER IT BEING THERE TO GET THEM SET UP OR? WELL, OUR, WE WE'RE, THE ROTARY CLUB I'M TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT STAYS THE WHOLE TIME.
SO FOR WHATEVER THAT PERIOD IS TYPICALLY, USUALLY IT'S ONLY AN HOUR, TWO HOURS.
THAT'S GONNA BE A, A, A, A PRETTY STRONG FEE.
WELL, NO, WE JUST DO ONE FEE AND THEY, THAT PERSON STAYS FOR, TYPICALLY IT'S NOT MORE THAN TWO TO THREE HOURS.
I'M, I'M, IT WOULD COST A WHOLE LOT TO REPLACE IT.
IF, IF THEY, IF THERE SOMETHING IS MESSED UP, IT COULD, COULD, YEAH.
I'M JUST THINKING, ALRIGHT, SOMEBODY'S GONNA RENT THAT ON A SATURDAY AND MM-HMM
YEAH, SEVERAL HUNDRED PROBABLY 6, 6, 700.
UM, BUT YOU, YOU, YOU ARE CORRECT.
BE THERE COULD BE A TRAINING OPPORTUNITY BE MAYBE YOU BRING THEM IN THE WEEK BEFORE, THE WEEK OF, AND THEY COME AND THEY HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S TRAINED ON IT, AND THAT'S DURING, DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
I MEAN THERE, I GUESS THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS FOR THAT.
YEAH, I, WELL, I CAN TELL YOU JUST YESTERDAY I TURNED SOMETHING ON OVER AT THE CONFERENCE ROOM IN THE ANNEX AND COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO TURN IT OFF.
UM, AND I DON'T REALLY EVEN KNOW WHAT I TURNED ON, BUT I KNOW THE LIGHT CHANGED ON IT.
SO SOME SOMETHING HAPPENED MM-HMM
UM, SO THAT, THAT, THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE, THE CONS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD, AND IT, IT TRULY IS JUST ABOUT, UM, THE INVESTMENT THAT WE HAVE IN THERE AND MAKING SURE, BUT YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB ON, ON ADDRESSING MOST OF IT.
DO, DO WE WANT TO ATTEMPT AT THIS POINT TO, TO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE USE SUPERVISION AND SCHEDULING OF THE MULTI, OF THE ANNEX MULTIPURPOSE ROOM AS REFLECTED IN THE ORDER OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADOPTING FACILITY USE RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR COUNTY BUILDINGS IN ROCKWALL COUNTY, TEXAS AS PRESENTED TO US TODAY.
AND THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WITH SUCH ORDER AND SUCH RULES AND REGULATIONS AND PROCEDURES ON A GOING FORWARD BASIS.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTI.
STACY, IS THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW? ALL RIGHT.
WE THANK YOU COMMISSIONER STACEY FOR THE WORK.
[9. Discuss/Act on adding an alarm phone line to the County Annex for $59.99 per month for a 36 month term, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy - IT Director)]
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.DISCUSS AN ACT ON ADDING AN ALARM PHONE LINE TO THE COUNTY ANNEX FOR 59 99 PER MONTH FOR A 36 MONTH TERM AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.
BRIAN IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT THIS IS GETTING, UM, A LANDLINE FOR THE ALARM AT THE COUNTY ANNEX BUILDING.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE, AND YEAH, IT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT RIGHT.
UM, I, I BELIEVE WHEN THIS FIRST CAME, UH, CRAIG CALLED AND SAID, IS THERE ANOTHER WAY? LIKE, NO
SO, UM, SO ANYWAYS, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ADDING A LINE AT THE, AT THE COUNTY ANNEX.
QUESTIONS FOR ME? I HAVE A QUESTION I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK, BUT I CAN'T HELP MYSELF.
WE HAVE, GOING BACK TO JUDGE NEWS' POINT A MOMENT AGO, WE HAVE A, UH, ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT SAYS WE'LL PAY 59 9 A MONTH.
AND YESTERDAY WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM SOMEONE THAT SAID, IT'S $60 A MONTH.
TELL ME THAT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
SO IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
WE CAN JUST DUPLICATE, DO IT, AMEND IT FOR $60 A MONTH AND MOVE FORWARD.
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I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ADDING AN ALARM PHONE TO THE COUNTY ANNEX FOR $60 A MONTH FOR A 36 MONTH TERM.GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
[10. Discuss/Act on moving the Emergency Management Department during the Sheriffs renovation project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]
BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 10, DISCUSS AN ACT ON MOVING THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT DURING THE SHERIFF'S RENOVATION PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.COMMISSIONER STACY, I JUST WANT THE COURT TO KNOW THAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS IN THE OLD INDIGENT, UM, SPACE IN WHITMORE, UM, THAT IS TEMPORARY AND THEY'LL BE PUT BACK IN THEIR PERMANENT SPACE WHEN IT'S OVER.
UM, IT WAS JUST THE EASIEST WAY TO HANDLE MOVING EVERYONE AROUND THE REMODEL.
SO THIS IS JUST AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THE MOVE HAS HAPPENED.
SO IF YOU GO LOOKING FOR THEM, YOU KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.
AND I DID GO LOOKING FOR 'EM YESTERDAY AND I WAS LIKE, WHOA.
AND I WALKED IN AND I WENT, THEY'RE GONE.
THEY HAVE STARTED THE DEMO, SO THERE YOU HAVE IT.
SO SINCE THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED, THIS REALLY IS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY ACTION UNLESS THERE'S ANY ASSOCIATED EXPENSES TO THE MOVE, THEN NO, IT WOULD ALL, IT IS ALL BEING PUT INTO THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE SHERIFF REMODEL, SO THERE'S NO EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE.
[11. Discuss/Act on renewal of Transportation Services Contract, or entering into a new Transportation Services Contract, between Rockwall County and Innovative Transportation Solutions, Inc., and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM 11.LET ME READ IT INTO THE RECORD FIRST.
YOU, YOU'RE OUT, OUT AHEAD OF THE STARTING GUN HERE.
AGENDA ITEM 11, DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE RENEWAL OF TRANSPORTATION SERVICES CONTRACT OR ENTERING INTO A NEW TRANSPORTATION SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN ROCKWALL COUNTY AND INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS INCORPORATED AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.
COMMISSIONER LTY, FIRST OF ALL, MY APOLOGIES FOR JUMPING THE GUN.
THIS IS TO RENEW OUR CONTRACT WITH, UH, INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS, WHICH WE'VE BEEN, HAS BEEN WORKING FOR US NOW SINCE I THINK 2008 OR SO, BRENDA, IS THAT CORRECT? MAYBE BEFORE THAT.
UM, ON JANUARY 14TH OF THIS YEAR, OUR COURT APPROVED ISSUING AN RFP OR RFQ TO BID OUT THE PROCESS, A PRO, UH, A STEP WHICH WAS AGREED UPON AND IN FACT, ENCOURAGED BY ITS AT THAT MEETING.
UM, THE RFQ WAS ISSUED, WE WAITED, WENT THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS, AND WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF TWO, UM, PROPOSALS.
ONE FROM RF, ONE FROM INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS, AND THE OTHER FROM AN ORGANIZATION WHICH WAS NOT QUALIFIED BASED UPON THE STANDARDS WE SET.
SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.
UM, OUR, THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP NOW IS THAT OUR CONTRACT, EXISTING CONTRACT WITH THEM EXPIRES SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025, UM, WHICH IS LESS THAN TWO MONTHS AWAY.
WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF MIDDLE OF OUR BUDGETING PROCESS.
WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS.
IF WE FOR SOME REASON DID NOT REVIEW THE RENEW THIS CONTRACT, WE WOULD HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF WORK TO DO.
UH, WE ARE PLANNING PROJECTS FOR YEARS INTO THE FUTURE AS EVERYONE ON THIS COURT KNOWS, AND WE NEED THE CON SOME SORT OF CONTINUITY.
ITS HAS SERVED THE COUNTY WELL NOW FOR, AS I SAID, ALMOST 20 YEARS.
UM, UH, THEY HAVE AGREED, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ITS PERSONNEL.
THEY AGREED THAT THEY WOULD RENEW THIS CONTRACT ON ANOTHER YEAR, FOR ANOTHER YEAR AT EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE AND ON THE SAME TERMS. AND BASED UPON THAT, I BROUGHT THIS BEFORE THE COURT, AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ADDRESSED TO ME OR TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER.
UH, DID YOU ATTEMPT TO NEGOTIATE A REDUCED PRICE? NO, SIR.
BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD AT THAT
I MEAN, WE, WE, WE'VE NEGOTIATED ATTORNEYS PRICES DOWN.
WE WE'VE NEGOTIATED SEVERAL PRICES DOWN.
UM, YEAH, NO, I ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T JUDGE, AND I WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF TOOK IT AS A WIN THAT AFTER WE WENT THROUGH THE BIDDING PROCESS AND LEARNED THAT THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE THAT WAS EVEN WILLING TO DO THIS, THAT THEY DIDN'T ASK US TO INCREASE THEIR PRICE.
UM, BUT IF YOU WANNA DISCUSS THAT, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO, TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
I MEAN, I, WE DO NEED TO SAVE MONEY WHEREVER WE CAN.
AND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO THEIR MONEY, AND THIS IS GONNA GET REALLY CONVOLUTED REALLY QUICKLY, IMMEDIATELY DOESN'T HAVE A BUDGET IMPACT BECAUSE THEY'RE PAID WITH BOND FUNDS.
SO, SO, UH, HAVING IT DONE BEFORE THE BUDGET IS, IS IS
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THAT IT, IT IT'S A TIMELINE.EVENTUALLY IT WILL HAVE A BUDGET IMPACT BECAUSE BONDS APPLY UPWARD PRESSURE ON THE TAX RATE, WHICH APPLIES NEGATIVE PRESSURE ON THE BUDGET.
UM, SO I I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE HAVE YOU NEGOTIATE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY.
I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS DONE AND MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOREVER AND I'M, LISTEN, WE'VE GOTTA QUIT DELAYING THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE SOMEONE LIKE GET OFF HIGH CENTER, SOMEONE ELSE'S FAMOUS WORDS AND LET'S GET THIS DONE, GUYS.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE JUDGE'S FAMOUS WORDS.
WHAT'S THAT? MY FAMOUS WORD? YES.
SO I I I, I, I JUST, I'M NOT DONE.
I, I, LOOK, THEY DIDN'T RAISE THE PRICE ON THIS RFQ AND THEY VERY WELL SHOULD HAVE, IN MY OPINION, THEY COULD HAVE BECAUSE WE SENT IT OUT TO THERE AND THEY COULD HAVE EASILY, WHAT WOULD WE HAVE DONE THEN IF THEY'D HAVE RAISED THE PRICE WHEN THEY CAME BACK TO BID, WHICH THEY COULD HAVE EASILY DONE, THEY AGREED TO LEAVE IT THE SAME BECAUSE OF YOUR CONVERSATION.
NOW WE'RE GONNA BE DISINGENUOUS AND GO BACK TO 'EM AND SAY, WELL, THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
LIKE, THAT'S NOT HOW WE DO BUSINESS GUYS.
LET'S GET THE CONSORTIUM GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
LET'S QUIT DEBATING THIS, WHICH IS, IN MY OPINION, RIDICULOUS BECAUSE HE IS THE ONLY FIRM THAT DOES WHAT HE DOES.
SO EITHER WE DO THIS OR WE DON'T.
LET'S TAKE A VOTE, LET'S MOVE FORWARD OR NOT MOVE FORWARD.
I, I AGREE WITH OFF A HIGH CENTER
I I I HAVE A PROBLEM, UH, WI WI WITH THEM AND, AND I THINK IT'S A LEGITIMATE PROBLEM.
SO TRIP 21 BOND, EITHER ONE OF TWO THINGS ARE TRUE.
EITHER OUR CONSULTANT LEFT SOMETHING OFF OF IT WITH THE INTENTIONS OF DECEIVING OR JUST MADE A HORRIBLE, EGREGIOUS ERROR AND LEFT SOMETHING OFF.
AND, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE OUTER LOOP NOT BEING ON THE TRIP 21 LIST OF PROJECTS, EE EITHER IT WAS LEFT OFF, SO IT, IT DIDN'T CREATE ANY ANTI-BOT MOMENTUM OR IT WAS LEFT OFF JUST BY ERROR.
WELL, BACK THEN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE OUTER LOOP BEING A CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE WHEN THAT BOND WAS DISCUSSED.
I DON'T REMEMBER IT BEING SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO DERAIL THE BOND.
LIKE, NOW THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE THIS HAS REALLY COME TO THE SURFACE AS THOSE ROUTES HAVE BEEN DECIDED ON.
SO I DON'T LISTEN, YOU WERE IN MORE OF THOSE MEETINGS, BUT I DON'T, I JUST CANNOT SEE THAT BEING WHAT WAS DONE BY ITS SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PUBLIC OUTCRY ON THAT SOUTHERN ROUTE WAS NOT THERE AT THAT TIME DURING THAT BOND DISCUSSION.
SO WHY WOULD THEY HAVE HIDDEN IT? WHY WOULD, WOULD THEY HAVE HAD THE FORESIGHT TO SAY, OH MY GOD, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE THE DIRECTION THE COURT'S BEEN GOING FOR 15 YEARS ON THIS OUTER LOOP.
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN THAT.
WELL, WELL, LET'S, LET'S REMOVE THAT AND THEN ASK WHY WASN'T IT ON THERE? I MEAN, COG, RIGHT NOW, OUR, OUR REPRESENTATIVE WHO, WHO DEALS WITH COG IS COMING BACK AND SAYING, WE'VE PLANNED THIS FOREVER.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GET DIFFERENT TIMES, DIFFERENT YEARS.
WHY WASN'T IT ON THERE? WHY, WHY, WHY ARE WE NOW PAINTED IN A CORNER? UH, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THIS QUESTION, BUT THIS IS NOT A REFERENDUM ON THE OUTER LOOP.
NO, NO, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.
IT IT IS JUST ME, ME, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION.
BECAUSE I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH, UH, MR. POLLSTER, UH, AND I BELIEVE, UH, HIS ASSISTANT, BRENDA CALLOWAY WAS ON THE PHONE WITH US WHEN WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO.
AND BRENDA, BY THE WAY, YOU DO A FABULOUS JOB.
UM, AND THE TRIP 21 BONDS WISH I HAD THE BOOK IN FRONT OF ME.
I DON'T INCLUDED MONEY FOR THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE OUTER LOOP.
SO I THINK, AND, AND THOSE, THAT CONTRACT WAS ENTERED INTO WITH HALF, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR LESS THAN THE AMOUNT THAT WAS PROJECTED BY A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS.
UM, SO TO SAY THAT IT WAS DELIBERATELY LEFT OUT, I DON'T THINK WOULD BE CORRECT BECAUSE IN FACT, THE NORTHERN SECTION WAS, NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO A TOPIC WHICH, UH, IS GONNA BE EVEN MORE FUN, WHICH IS WHAT ARE OUR OBLIGATIONS ON THE SOUTHERN SECTION OF THE OUTER LOOP AND WHERE ARE WE GONNA SPEND THAT MONEY IF WE ENTER INTO A CONTRACT? UM, AND, UH, AS BRENDA, I'M SURE CAN CORRECT MY LANGUAGE, EACH SEGMENT OF
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THE OUTER LOOP HAS TO STAND ON ITS OWN.IS THAT CORRECT? THERE'S A TERM FOR IT.
BRENDA, IF YOU COULD COME UP HERE PLEASE.
I'M INTRODUCING BRENDA CALLAWAY FROM INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION, SER SOLUTIONS INC.
UM, BRENDA, THERE'S A TERM FOR THAT.
WHEN WE HAD OUR CONVERSATION, IT WAS THAT EACH SEGMENT OF THE OUTER LOOP HAS TO STAND ON ITS OWN.
IT'S GOT A, UM, IT BEGAN AN END AT A LOGICAL TERMINI, I THINK IS THE TERM LOGICAL TERMIN TERM THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND SO IN, IN EFFECT, ALTHOUGH IT WOULD SEEM ODD, THE OUTER LOOP COULD BE BUILT TO 2 76, RIGHT? OR IS IT 30? WHICH ONE IS IT RIGHT NOW? IT EXTENDS TO 2 76, 6 AND HALF CONTRACT.
SO IT COULD BE BUILT THERE AND STAND ON ITS OWN.
I DON'T THAT WOULD REALLY BE AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION, BUT IT COULD BE.
UM, AND THAT ACTUALLY LEAVES US AS A COUNTY, I BELIEVE, SOME OPTIONS.
UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, RIGHT NOW THAT TRIP 21 BOND FUNDS DO NOT INCLUDE MONEY FOR THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE OUTER LOOP.
IT WASN'T DISCUSSED, BUT THE NORTHERN PORTION WAS, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE.
AND THAT'S WHERE OUR OBLIGATIONS TODAY BEGIN AND END.
CORRECT? UM, NO, I THINK IT IS, BUT IF, IF IT'S NOT, TELL ME WHY.
WELL, IN THE CONTRACT WITH HALF RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT IT WAS STRUCTURED IS WE WERE MOVING THROUGH EACH PHASE CONNECTING COLLIN COUNTY TO 2 76, THEN SEEING WHERE KAUFMAN COUNTY CAME IN.
SO WE WOULD KNOW WHAT THAT CONNECTION POINT WAS.
SO WHAT WE DID WITH HAFS CONTRACT IS WE STAGED IT AND PHASED IT AND SAID, OKAY, WE WANNA GET TO ENVIRONMENTAL AND SCHEMATIC DETERMINATION IN THE NORTH.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE PRESSURE POINTS WERE AT THAT TIME IN ROYCE CITY AND FATE.
AND IN THE CITY OF ROCKWALL, THE DEVELOPERS WERE COMING IN, THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE SEEING YOUR GROWTH.
AND WE WANTED TO PRESERVE THAT CORRIDOR AT THAT TIME.
THE SOUTHERN PORTION IS IN HOUSE CONTRACT AS A FEASIBILITY BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO SEE WHERE THE CONNECTION POINT WAS AT 2 76 AND WHERE THE CONNECTION POINT WAS GONNA BE FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY OUTER LOOP.
THE 2050 MTP SHOWS A CONNECTION THROUGH THERE, AND IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO CONNECT IT.
BUT IN THEIR CONTRACT, WE WERE DOING A FEASIBILITY TO SEE WHERE YOUR PRESSURE POINTS WOULD BE IN THE SOUTH AND WHERE THE NORTHERN PART OF ROCKWELL COUNTY AND WHERE KAUFMAN COUNTY WOULD END.
SO YOU WOULD KNOW WHERE YOU NEEDED TO CONNECT.
SO JUST KIND OF PHASING THROUGH, UM, I BELIEVE THE INTENT, AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH JOHN ON THIS, 'CAUSE I WAS NOT WORKING FOR ITS AT THE TIME, BUT I THINK THE INTENT WAS TO CONTINUE ON WITH THAT SOUTHERN PORTION WHEN WE GOT THOSE TWO POINTS LOCKED IN USING THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES PORTION OF THE 2021 TRIP BOND PROGRAM.
DON, DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE WORD YOU SAID, BUT WHAT I SAID IF I STATED IT CORRECTLY, IS OUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS END WITH THE NORTHERN PORTION RIGHT NOW.
WELL, WE, WE CERTAINLY HAVEN'T SIGNED A CONTRACT.
YOU HAVEN'T NOW TO DO THIS, THIS GENERAL FEASIBILITY, FEASIBILITY STUDY STUDY AS A PART OF IT, YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED, SIGNED A CONTRACT.
YOU'RE THAT'S EXACTLY FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF LOOKING AT POTENTIAL OTHER ROUTES IN THE SOUTH BECAUSE WE'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO GO FORWARD YET AT THIS POINT.
UH, I UNDERSTAND, AND, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A REFERENDUM ON THE OUTER LOOP, BUT I, I'M JUST TRYING TO STATE WHAT OUR COUNTY'S LEGAL OBLIGATIONS ARE, AND I THINK I'M PRETTY ACCURATE ON WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED.
WELL, AND, AND I WILL EVEN SAY THIS, EVEN IF YOU DECIDED FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU WANTED TO END IT AT 2 76, I THINK THAT YOU WOULD BENEFIT FROM I S'S SERVICES WITH ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE GOT ON YOUR PRIORITY LIST.
AND I THINK THAT WE COULD ASSIST YOU IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE.
SO IF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU EXTEND OUR CONTRACT, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT, IS WHETHER OR NOT OUR SERVICES ARE NEEDED OTHER THAN ON THE OUTER LOOP.
I, I, I PUT US ON HIGH CENTER AND, AND THANK YOU.
I'LL, I'LL NOW GET US OFF OF HIGH CENTER.
SEE, WE NEED TO STAY FOCUSED WITH THE AGENDA ITEM.
TOLD YOU SO I'M JUST STARTING, UH, YEAH, AND I YOU'RE, BUT I'LL STOP BECAUSE YOU, YOU'RE CORRECT.
IT'S NOT A REFERENDUM ON THE OUTER LOOP.
I WAS JUST, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE IT ON.
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REASON I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST THIS, BUT I ALSO CAN DO MATH AND, AND, AND KNOW, UM, THAT, UH, I, I KNOW WHERE THIS IS GONNA GO.SO, UH, WELL, WELL, THAT'S A GREAT TRANSITION.
UM, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ENTER INTO A NEW CONTRACT WITH, UH, ITS, UM, AS PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONER LTI AT THE SAME RATE AND FOR A SERVICE TIME OF ONE YEAR.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER I'LL THAT GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW? IT PASSES FOUR TO ONE.
[12. Discuss/Act on the commercial development of property on East Highline Drive and Honey Creek Road, and an Easement Agreement between Rockwall County and the owner of the property, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)]
US TO AGENDA ITEM 12, DISCUSS AN ACT ON THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY ON EAST HIGHLINE DRIVE IN HONEY CREEK ROAD, AND AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN ROCKWALL COUNTY AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.UH, JUDGE, UM, I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE REMOVE THIS FROM THE AGENDA.
WE ARE, UH, ON HIGH CENTER
AND IN FACT, WE HAVE A CONFERENCE CALL TOMORROW, UH, TO DISCUSS IT WITH THE DEVELOPER.
AND AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
DANIEL RAY, DO WE NEED TO TABLE IT TO A FUTURE DATE OR CAN WE JUST GO AROUND IT AND LEAVE IT? LEAVE IT SITTING.
YOU CAN GO AROUND IT AND LEAVE IT SITTING.
IF YOU WERE PLANNING ON TAKING ACTION AT THE NEXT ORDER, IF THERE WAS A ISSUE OF TIMELINESS THAT YOU, YOU WOULDN'T VOTE TO TABLE, YOU'D VOTE TO POSTPONE AND THEN STATE A SPECIFIC DATE, BUT RIGHT NOW, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THE ITEM.
[13. Discuss/Act on approving a Crossing Agreement with AMG Technology Investments dba Nextlink Internet for installation of 1-2" HDPE for fiber installation on Poetry Road located in Rockwall County, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)]
MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 13, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A CROSSING AGREEMENT WITH A MG TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS, DBA NEXT LINK INTERNET FOR INSTALLATION OF A ONE TO TWO INCH HD PE FOR FIBER INSTALLATION ON POETRY ROAD LOCATED IN ROCKWELL COUNTY, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.THIS IS, UH, A, AN AGREEMENT ON OUR STANDARD FORM FOR INSTALLING FIBER LINES.
AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR COUNTY ENGINEER, ERICA BRIDGES.
JUST TO GO OVER SOME OF THE FINE POINTS OF THIS.
UM, NEXT LINK IS GOING TO BE INSTALLING A TWO INCH CONDUIT ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF POETRY ROAD, UH, APPROXIMATELY 4,300 LINEAR FEET, UH, APPROXIMATELY THREE TO FOUR FOOT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE.
UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING A DEPTH OF ABOUT FOUR FEET DEEP.
UM, AND WHEN THEY CROSS UTILITIES, WHICH THEY WILL, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING KEEPING A THREE FOOT SEPARATION DISTANCE FROM THOSE UTILITIES, UH, THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING INSTALLING BY DIRECTIONAL BORE.
SO WITH THAT, I OPEN THAT UP TO QUESTIONS.
IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I HAVE A, A QUESTION AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE US DOWN A RABBIT HOLE, UH, OR PUT US ON HIGH CENTER OR PUT US ON HIGH CENTER AGAIN.
BUT, AND THIS IS MORE OF A LEGAL QUESTION, IS THERE ANY WAY WHEN WE GET THESE AGREEMENTS WHERE, WHERE THEY, UH, WANT TO, UH, INSTALL WHATEVER UTILITIES CAN WE WRITE INTO THE AGREEMENT THAT IF WE'RE OUT DIGGING IN THE AREA AND NOTIFY THEM THAT THEY COME MARK THEIR LINES WITHIN 48 HOURS? 'CAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL VENDORS, AND I, I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY THAT NEXT LINK IS ONE, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL VENDORS THAT WE CALL TO GET THEM TO COME MARK.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA DIG, WE GIVE 'EM AMPLE NOTICE, THEY JUST REFUSE TO COME OUT AND MARK THEIR LINES.
SO INEVITABLY WE CUT THROUGH A LINE, WE END UP BEARING THE COST WHEN, WHEN WE SHOULDN'T HAVE.
NOW THIS LOOKS JUST TO BE A STRAIGHT LINE AND FOUR FEET DEEP, SO SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF GOING FORWARD, ANY OF OUR AGREEMENTS, WE CAN JUST WRITE INTO IT THAT THEY'LL COME OUT WITHIN 48 HOURS AND MARK.
UM, SO YES, YOU DEFINITELY CAN DO THAT.
IN FACT, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND SAY IF THEY ADD A PROVISION THAT IF THEY FA IF THE CONTRACTOR FAILS TO DO THAT, THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS IF IT'S INADVERTENTLY CUT IN THE FUTURE.
I SEE DANIEL'S
THAT'S, UH, I, I'VE HANDLED PROBABLY 70 OR SO CASES IN THE PAST 10 YEARS WHERE THAT EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED.
AND IT ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO AN ARGUMENT ABOUT, WELL, WHERE WAS IT IN THE DITCH AND WAS IT ON THE BACKSIDE AND WAS IT TWO FEET DEEP? UH, AND INEVITABLY WHAT THE FIBER COMPANIES SAY IS, WELL, YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE A DIG TEST THERE.
UH, AND IF YOU HAVE A ALL CLEAR FROM US AND THEN YOU HIT IT AND YOU CAN PROVE IT WAS IN THE RIGHT SPOT, UH, OR THAT YOU'VE
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DUG IN THE RIGHT SPOT, THEN WE WON'T REQUIRE YOU TO PAY.BUT OTHERWISE, UH, YOU NEED TO PAY US FOR THE DAMAGE.
IF YOU DID PUT THAT IN THE CONTRACT OR EVEN ADOPTED SOME, UH, USUAL STIPULATIONS TO APPROVE THIS SORT OF DEAL, UM, THAT HAD, THAT AS AN INCLUSION, UH, IN THE STIPULATIONS, UH, EITHER ONE OF THOSE WOULD WORK.
I THINK, UH, TO COMMISSIONER TY'S POINT, IF WE'RE, UH, DOING AN APPROVAL, UH, LIKE THIS, THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN THAT IS, UH, A MORE SPECIFIC UH, HOLD HARMLESS, UH, AGREEMENT, UH, THAT IF THEY DON'T COME OUT AND, YOU KNOW, DO THEIR JOB WITH A LINE LOCATE, UH, THAT WE HAVE A PIECE OF PAPER SAYING THAT THEY'RE GONNA HOLD THE COUNTY HARMLESS AND NOT CHARGE THE TAXPAYERS FOR THAT SORT OF THING, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT GONNA ARGUE.
UH, BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S A FACT SPECIFIC SITUATION ABOUT WHERE YOU DUG AND WHETHER IT WAS THE RIGHT SPOT.
NO, AND I'D BE FINE DOING IT THAT WAY ALSO.
I, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE JUDGE'S POINT AND HIS POINTING THIS OUT BECAUSE IF THEY DO THEIR JOB AND PUT IT DOWN, THEY'RE GREAT.
BUT IF THEY DON'T MARKET, THEN THEY'RE SETTING EVERYONE UP FOR AN ISSUE DOWN THE ROAD.
AND IN THAT CASE, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, DANIEL, I'D APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN OUR STANDARD FORM CONTRACT WILL DO.
SO SPECIFICALLY WITH THE AGENDA, ITEM 13, DO WE WANT TO ATTEMPT, UH, A MOTION THAT INCLUDES AMENDING THE LANGUAGE IN, IN THE CONTRACT? I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A CROSSING AGREEMENT, UH, WITH A MG TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS, DBA NEXT LINK INTERNET FOR INSTALLATION OF A ONE TO TWO INCH HDPE FOR FIBER INSTALLATION ON POETRY ROAD LOCATED IN ROCKWALL COUNTY WITH, UH, A PROVISION TO BE ADDED TO THE AGREEMENT BY OUR GENERAL COUNSEL, UH, TO PROVIDE, TO REQUIRE THE CONTRACTOR TO MARK THE LOCATION OF THE LINE AND THEIR FAILURE TO DO SO, TO HOLD THE COUNTY HARMLESS FROM ANY DAMAGES FROM FUTURE BREAKAGE.
JUST ONE CLARIFICATION, YOU SAID ONE TO TWO INCH HDPE LINE.
SO, OH, SORRY, JUST A LITTLE, SORRY.
UH, I'D LIKE TO AMEND THAT MOTION TO SAY AN AGREE, AN EASEMENT, UH, INSTALLATION OF A ONE OF ONE TWO INCH HDP.
SO WE HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTE SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW? IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
[14. Discuss/Act on accepting a grant award from the Motor Crime Prevention Authority SB 224 Catalytic Converter Grant Program, and all related issues; (Judge New-Auditor)]
TO AGENDA ITEM 14, DISCUSSING ACT ON ACCEPTING A GRANT AWARD FROM MOTOR CRIME PREVENTION AUTHORITY, SB 2 24 CATALYTIC CONVERTER GRANT PROGRAM, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.THIS IS WHERE THE AUDITOR AND I STARE AT EACH OTHER AND
I, I DID, UH, I WAS GIVEN AN UPDATE ON THE, WHAT THE, THE GRANT, UH, THAT WAS APPROVED THAT, UH, WOULD BE FOR SOME DRONES.
UM, I MET WITH THE, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS BRINK SHERIFF.
COME, COME ON UP HERE, SHERIFF.
AND, UH, UH, THE AGREEMENT, UH, IS WRITTEN JUST SO THAT IF, IF THE GRANT WAS NOT RENEWED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THAT THE COUNTY WOULD NOT BE, UH, THEY, THEY'D COME GET THEIR DRONE AND ACTUALLY THEY'D LEAVE PROBABLY THE DRONES.
THEY'D PROBABLY COME AND GET THEIR STATIONS.
BUT THERE, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT YEAR WE WERE IN, UH, WE WOULD NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR FURTHER PAYMENTS.
IS, UH, AND IT, AND IT IS WRITTEN IN THERE.
THIS IS A BUYBOARD, UH, COOPERATIVE PURCHASE.
SO WE'RE COVERED ON THE BIDDING.
AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, SHERIFF, TO GIVE THE DETAILS OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA USE IT FOR.
IS THIS A DRONES WE WERE TESTING AT THE COURTHOUSE? YES.
THIS IS THE DFR DRONES THAT, DRONES AS FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND SO, UH, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS, UH, DESIGNATED IN THE GRANT WERE TWO DRONE AS FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND SO, UH, I WAS OUT OF TOWN LAST WEEK WHEN LISA, I THINK KEITH MET WITH THEM AND, UH, WENT OVER THE DETAILS SO SHE COULD UNDERSTAND ALL THE DETAILS OF THE, THE CONTRACT WITH, UH, BRINK SPECIFICALLY.
AND WE'LL HAVE PROBABLY ANOTHER VENDOR OR TWO COMING ALONG IN THAT.
UH, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T GONNA CAUSE TROUBLE TODAY, SO THEY HAD ME COME TO A MEETING.
IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING.
DO WE HAVE THIS 40? I WAS, I WAS SHOCKED.
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BESIDES GENERAL FUND, UH, AND GRAY, UH, CAPTAIN WELCH WAS NOT, UH, SURE YET EITHER.SO THAT'S THE, THE SHERIFF'S DECISION, SO WE STILL NEED TO MEET ON THAT.
BUT, UH, SO WE, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH $45,238 TO GET A $226,000 DRONE.
SEEMS LIKE A IT IS, IT IS AN 80 20, UH, GRANT.
SO, UH, AND EVERYTHING IS PAID, PARDON? 83.33.
BUT WE, WE DO PAY, UH, ANY, ANY COST OUT FRONT, AND THEN WE ARE REIMBURSED BY THE GRANT.
AND, UM, THERE IS, UH, QUITE A BIT OF TRAINING INVOLVED.
UH, BRINKS SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE PROBABLY ON SITE FOR TWO WEEKS.
SO, UH, THEY HAD AN AMAZING VIDEO OF WHAT, WHAT THE DRONE COULD DO TO HELP.
UH, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME MORE DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE, IN THE FUTURE ABOUT WHERE THE DRONE WILL BE SET UP AND WHAT LOCATION, BECAUSE IT IS PUT IN A CONTAINER AND THEN THEY COMMAND IT TO OPEN THE CONTAINER AND, AND FLY OUT.
I'M, I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
I'VE WANTED US TO GO THIS DIRECTION SINCE I'VE BEEN JUDGE OF THERE, THERE'S NO REASON WE CAN'T GET THE DRONE OUT AHEAD OF AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
JUST SENDING BACK DETAILED INFORMATION OF WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO WALK INTO.
I THINK THERE'S A, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN THE CONTRACT THAT ANY DAMAGE OF THE DRONE.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THE, THE COMPANY HAS BEEN REALLY RESPONSIVE AND CONTINUE TO PUT IN THERE THINGS THAT WOULD SUPPORT US, UH, TO MAKE THE, MAKE THE PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL.
SO THEY WILL COME OUT, UH, DURING THE DEPLOYMENT PHASE, UH, OF THE BOXES, THE DRONES, AND DO A HEAT MAP.
WHERE WOULD BE THE BEST LOCATION FOR THESE IN THE, IN THE COUNTY.
AND, AND IF THE DRONE WAS SHOT DOWN, IT, IT, MY QUESTION TO THEM WAS, IF THE BAD GUY SHOOTS DOWN THE DRONE, WHAT HAPPENS TO US? AND THEY SAID THAT THEY REPLACED THE DRONE.
SO, UH, I THINK TODAY WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS THAT YOU ALL ACCEPT THE GRANT AWARD, AND THEN I THINK MORE, MORE DETAIL WILL COME BACK TO YOU ON, ON OH, HOW AND WHERE, DETAILS LIKE THAT.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR LISA OR THE SHERIFF? IS IT, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE, DOES THIS HAVE TO BE GENERAL FUND OR COULD YOU GET THIS OUT OF ANY OF YOUR OTHER PROPRIETARY FUNDS FROM THE SHERIFF? I JUST, IT'S JUST A QUESTION BECAUSE THERE'S NO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY'S SO INCLINED.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, APPROVE ACCEPTING A GRANT AWARD FROM THE MOTOR CRIME PREVENTION AUTHORITY, SB 2 24 CATALYTIC CONVERTER GRANT PROGRAM.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUANO.
I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.
[15. Discuss/Act on re-advertising by Public Notice for Bids on Road Construction Materials for the Road & Bridge Department pursuant to Local Government Code Section 262.023, and all related issues; (Judge New-Auditor)]
AGENDA ITEM 15, DISCUSS AN ACT ON RE-ADVERTISING BY PUBLIC NOTICE FOR BIDS ON ROAD CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT PURSUANT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2 6 2 0.023, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.THE, WE HAD, UH, WE, WE RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM, FROM THE COURT AND WENT OUT FOR BID FOR ANNUAL ROAD MATERIALS AS, AS WE DO EVERY YEAR.
UH, WE DID OUR ADVERTISEMENT AND ON AND RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE, SO WE FOUND THAT PROBLEMATIC.
IT'S NEVER HAPPENED TO US BEFORE.
SO WE ARE COMING BACK TO YOU TO, UH, REQUEST THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO IT AGAIN.
AND, UH, WE'VE TALKED TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND, AND CAME UP WITH SOME IDEAS OF HOW WE CAN, UH, REACH OUT AND TRY TO GET SOME MORE ACTIVITY.
SO, WE'LL, YOU GIVE US THIS APPROVAL AND WE'LL TAKE IT FROM HERE AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY'S SO INCLINED.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT WE, UM, WE ACT ON RE-ADVERTISING BY THE PUBLIC NOTICE FOR BIDS ON THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT PURSUANT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K.
STACY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
[16. Discussion of Order of the Special Election for the City of Mobile City for November 4, 2025, and all related issues; (Judge New - Auditor)]
THIS BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 16, DISCUSSION OF ORDER OF THE SPECIAL ELECTION FOR THE CITY OF MOBILE CITY FOR NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025.IN ALL RELATED ISSUES, COMMISSIONERS, I HAVE ORDERED A NEW ELECTION FOR MOBILE CITY.
UH, THE PERSON WHO WON THE POSITION OF MAYOR MOVED OUT OF MOBILE CITY, UH,
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VACATING THE POSITION, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ELECTEDS TO HAVE A QUORUM.SO WE HAVE TO CALL A NEW ELECTION FOR A MAYOR AND A COUNCIL MEMBER, WHICH THEY CALL COMMISSIONERS.
SO THERE WILL BE TWO PEOPLE THAT, THAT WILL BE ON THE ELECTION.
I HAVE ALREADY CALLED THE ELECTION.
THIS IS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, UH, IN, IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING WHY WE'RE DOING ANOTHER ELECTION.
SO, UH, I WILL CONSIDER DISCUSSION OVER, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
[17. Discuss/Act on selecting the salary grievance committee members as prescribed by Local Government Code 152.014-152.017, and all related issues; (Judge New)]
AGENDA ITEM 17.DISCUSS AN ACT ON SELECTING THE SALARY GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS PRESCRIBED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 1 5 2 0.014 THROUGH 1 5 2 0.017, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.
SO, GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE, WHENEVER ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE UNHAPPY WITH THEIR SALARY, THEY CAN FILE A GRIEVANCE.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS WE CAN FORM A COMMITTEE.
UH, WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE THAT HEARS THEIR GRIEVANCE.
UH, AND, AND I SIT AT THE HEAD AS A NON-VOTING MEMBER OF THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN DO THAT.
AND, AND, UH, ONE OF THE WAYS IS WE HAVE, UH, ME SETTING AS THE HEAD, WE HAVE THE SHERIFF, THE COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR, COUNTY TREASURER, DISTRICT CLERK, AND OUR CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND COUNTY CLERK.
AND THEN THREE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE CHOOSE FROM, PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE GRAND JURY POOL.
SO, UH, THE OTHER WAY WE CAN DO IT, YOU HAVE TO REACH NINE MEMBERS.
SO THE OTHER WAY WE CAN DO IT IS HAVE NO ELECTED OFFICIALS JUST HAVE ME SETTING AS THE HEAD, AS NON-VOTING AND HAVE NINE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE SERVED IN THE GRAND JURY POOL.
SO WE, WE CAN EITHER HAVE ELECTEDS AND THREE PEOPLE OR NO ELECTEDS AND NINE PEOPLE.
I DON'T KNOW THE BENEFIT OF DOING EITHER WAY.
UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ELECTEDS, I THINK WE CAN ROUND UP A LITTLE EASIER AND QUICKER IF, IF, IF WE NEED TO.
UH, AND TO BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY.
SO IT GOES THROUGH SPECIFICALLY HOW WE DRAW THE, THE CITIZENS' NAMES.
YOU KNOW, YOU PUT THEIR NAMES IN A HAT, I DRAW 'EM OUT OF A HAT.
WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS THEN DO I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO FORCE THEM TO BE ON THIS GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE? IF, IF SO, I'M KIND OF UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
UH, BUT, UH, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING, THE, THE TIMELINE ON THE BUDGET IS PRETTY STRICT.
IF SOMEBODY FILES A GRIEVANCE, IT, IT COULD THROW A TWO WEEK, UH, HICCUP IN THERE.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS FIGURING OUT WHICH DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.
SO WE CAN ALREADY AT LEAST HAVE A GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE TEED UP.
AND THAT WAY IF SOMEBODY FILES IT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT CAUGHT MISSING DEADLINES.
UH, WITH, WITH THE BUDGET, WHO IS IT STATUTE THAT DECIDES THESE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS ON THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE? IS IT WHO DECIDES? AND SECOND PART TO THAT QUESTION, WHO DECIDED WHAT ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE ON THAT GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE? IS THAT ALSO IN THE STATUTE OR IS THAT, THAT THAT IS IN THE STATUTE.
THAT'S HOW, IT'S HOW IT'S LINED OUT.
JUDGE, I FIRST OF ALL APPRECIATE YOU INCLUDING ALL THE INFORMATION YOU DID WITH THE PACKET.
MY INCLINATION WOULD BE TO GO FOR THE PUBLIC MEMBERS ON THIS COMMITTEE EXCEPT FOR HOW THEY'RE CHOSEN.
AND YOUR POINT IS, IS, IS, IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING IS, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE AND WE PULL 'EM OUT OF A HAT.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO SERVE, THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? AND, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE YOU SERVED ON A GRAND JURY DOESN'T MEAN YOU WANNA SERVE ON A GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A PUNISHMENT IF YEAH.
IF WE BEFORE DOING YOUR CIVIC DUTY, IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD ELECT OR CHOOSE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH AND KNOW AND ARE RAISING THEIR HAND AND SAYING THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT, IN MY OPINION, THAT'D BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
BUT WE, IT, THE WAY I READ THE STATUTE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION.
I, I, I THINK YOU DON'T WANT TO GUIDE THE PUBLIC ONE EITHER, THOUGH.
AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE PERCEPTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHO'S GONNA BE ON THIS COMMITTEE FROM THE PUBLIC EITHER.
I THINK IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN YOU'RE PICKING A GRAND JURY, YOU, I MEAN, YOU NEED TO, IF WE'RE GONNA GO THAT ROUTE, THEN WE CAN PICK THOSE MEMBERS.
AND I'M SURE WE CAN PICK ALTERNATES THAT WILL SERVE IN LIEU OF SOMEONE SAYING NO OR NOT BEING AVAILABLE OR TELLING US THEY CAN'T.
SO I, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO GUIDE THAT BY SAYING WE WANT TO PICK THESE SPECIFIC PEOPLE.
AND IF, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WOULD BE TRYING TO GUIDE THE DECISIONS
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NECESSARILY, BUT I WOULD JUST WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SERVE AND SPEND THE TIME NECESSARY TO DO THE WORK, TO FIGURE IT OUT.AND, UH, UM, SO EVEN THOUGH MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO GO WITH PUBLIC MEMBERS, UH, I THINK, UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE OPTION, IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER.
I'D RATHER GO WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE NOTED PLUS THREE PUBLIC MEMBERS.
I HAVE A CONCERN GOING WITH THE ELECTEDS BECAUSE ESPECIALLY ANYBODY THAT MIGHT BE UP FOR REELECTION AT THIS TIME, I HAVE A CONCERN THAT, THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO APPROACH THIS IN AN UNBIASED MANNER WITH THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION.
AND I WOULD RATHER, BEFORE THOSE REASONS, I WOULD RATHER GO WITH THE PUBLIC.
THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN, IN THE GRAND JURY POOL HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO BE IN THE GRAND JURY POOL.
THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE WILLING TO SERVE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST MY PERCEPTION OF GOING WITH THE ELECTEDS.
WELL, I DON'T, I, THEY'RE UNDER PRESSURE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE UNDER AN ELECTION SOON TO NOT, IT'S JUST MY OPINION.
SO MAYBE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE VIEWED AS INCREASING ANY SPENDING.
THEY WANT IMPARTIAL PEOPLE LISTENING TO THIS DEAL.
WE, WE'VE, UH, ONCE AGAIN BEEN PAINTED INTO THE CORNER BY A STATUTE FROM, FROM THE STATE THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND HAVING SAID THAT, CAN I THINK OF A BETTER WAY? I DON'T KNOW.
AT SOME POINT, IT, IT JUST COMES DOWN TO, UH, A JURY OF, OF PEERS.
SO WE GOT ONE FOR THE, AND NOT DOING A POLL.
AND WE HAVE FOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WOULD BE ON THIS COMMITTEE HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANT TO ASK THEM ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SERVING ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT I'M SAYING THAT IS ALSO, I, I'M, I'M, I'M UNCOMFORTABLE
I, I DON'T WANNA PRE-INTERVIEW PEOPLE.
IF, IF WE ARE GONNA SEEK THIS COMMITTEE, WE'LL SEEK THIS COMMITTEE.
UM, THERE WILL BE A SALARY GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE COMPOSED OF THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THE SHERIFF COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, COUNTY TREASURER, COUNTY CLERK, DISTRICT CLERK, COUNTY ATTORNEY, OR CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
UH, AND, AND THE NUM AND, AND THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC MEMBERS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE NINE VOTING MEMBERS.
SO, AND CAN, CAN I HAVE TONY, DO YOU MIND
LET ME, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME TRY SOMETHING HERE.
I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE HAVING THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THREE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE JUDGE.
UH, I WAS JUST ASKING, UH, DANIEL, WHETHER YOU HAVE TO PULL THE PUBLIC NAMES TODAY OR NOT, BECAUSE IT DOES SAY FURTHER INTO THE STATUTE IS AT THE MEETING, THE SLIPS SHALL BE FOLDED IN PLACE IN AN APPROPRIATE CONTAINER.
IF SO, WE'LL HAVE TO GET LAST YEAR'S GRAND JURY LIST, WHICH THE DISTRICT CLERK HAS READY AND GET IT OVER HERE AND DO IT TODAY.
DOES IT, DOESN'T IT SAY THAT THE PUBLIC MEMBERS SHALL BE SELECTED AS PROVIDED IN SECTION BB ONE AT A MEETING OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AT ANY TIME DURING THE YEAR, BUT NOT LATER THAN THE 15TH DAY AFTER REQUEST FOR HEARING IS RECEIVED? SO I DON'T THINK THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO DO IT TODAY.
THAT, THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT.
IS, IS WE'RE, WE'RE SETTING THE STRUCTURE AND THEN IF THERE'S A GRIEVANCE, THEN WE HAVE THE STRUCTURE, THEN WE, THEN WE MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY.
WE HAVE QUICKLY TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY.
AND, AND IT DEFINITELY DOES TALK ABOUT THE ALTERNATE TOO.
SO IF SOME, ONE OF THE THREE CANNOT, CANNOT PERFORM THE DUTIES, THEN, THEN IT HAS THE, THE WORDING FOR THE ALTERNATE.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES, YOU MAY.
THE GRAND JURY, THE GRAND JURY POOL, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GRAND JURORS THAT WERE, THAT WERE SELECTED TO BE CHOSEN FROM, OR DID THEY NEED TO SERVE ON THE GRAND JURY? 'CAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE.
I DON'T THINK THEY NEEDED TO SERVE ON THE GRAND JURY.
LET ME FIND THE EXACT, IT DOES SAY IT IS LAST YEAR'S TERM, AND IT'S NOT A PAID, THIS IS NOT PAID.
IT SAYS THE NAME OF EACH PERSON WHO SERVED ON A GRAND JURY IN THE COUNTY DURING THE PRECEDING CALENDAR YEAR.
SO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A VERY NARROW, VERY NARROW GROUP OF PEOPLE.
ARE ARE, ARE WE GOOD, DANIEL? YES.
[18. Discuss/Act on the proposed FY2026 budget, and all related issues; (Judge New - Auditor)]
THAT BRINGS US[01:15:01]
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.AND ACT IS A FUNNY WORD THERE ON PROPOSED FY 2026 BUDGET AND ALL RELATED ISSUES.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, I DON'T EXPECT ANY ACTION.
YOU GUYS WERE GIVEN THIS BUDGET AT TWO MINUTES BEFORE FIVE O'CLOCK YESTERDAY.
I I CERTAINLY DIDN'T INTEND FOR YOU GUYS TO STAY UP LATE READING THE BUDGET.
'CAUSE I, I DIDN'T EXPECT THERE TO BE ANY ACTION TODAY, BUT I DO JUST WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF, OF WHAT THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS HAVE HAVE BROUGHT US TO.
SO THE BUDGET THAT, UH, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, OR YOU HAVE AT LEAST IN YOUR INBOX, HAS A PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.2498, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHICH IS 2 4 1 9.
UH, THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE IS 0.2521, AND OUR CURRENT TAX RATE IS 0.25.
SO, UH, AS, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I AM, UM, ALL ABOUT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
AND I TRIED REALLY HARD TO GET THERE.
AND JUST TO BE COMPLETELY FORTHRIGHT, I'M NOT DONE TRYING YET.
UH, AND, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS, THIS BODY TO NOT BE DONE TRYING TO GET TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
BUT WHAT IS APPLYING UPWARD PRESSURE IS THE 503RD DISTRICT COURT THAT, UH, WHILE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S INCREASING DOUBT
I'M, I'M STILL HOPEFUL IF, IF I'M A GAMBLING MAN, I'M SAYING WE'RE GETTING THE COURT.
WE NEED A BUDGET FOR THE COURT, WE NEED THE COURT.
UH, BUT THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE 10 POSITIONS PLUS A JUDGE.
AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN THIS BUDGET.
WHAT'S ALSO REFLECTED IN THIS BUDGET IS SEVEN POSITIONS THAT HAVE NO BUDGET IMPACT, THAT WE'RE USING FUNDS.
UH, AND WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB.
OUR, OUR CLERKS ARE USING THEIR RECORD MANAGEMENT FUNDS TO BRING IN CLERKS, BOTH OUR DISTRICT AND COUNTY CLERK.
UH, THE FIRE MARSHAL, WHICH WILL SURPRISE NO ONE IS IN MY FIRST ITERATION OF THE, OF THE BUDGET, AGAIN, WILL BE FUNDED BY FUND 51, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY SALES TAX THAT WE COLLECT OUT IN THE COUNTY.
UH, I HAVE A GRANT WRITER AS HEADCOUNT, BUT NO BUDGET, UH, IMPLICATIONS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THAT CAN SUPPORT ITSELF.
UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL SEE, WE'LL SEE IF WE, IF WE CAN GET THAT THROUGH.
WE'LL, UM, WE'LL SEE IF THAT THAT HOLDS TRUE OR NOT.
UM, WE'VE ADDED THREE POSITIONS, UH, AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
WE'VE ADDED A CLERK THERE TO HANDLE ALL DEPARTMENTS INSTEAD OF EACH DEPARTMENT GETTING THEIR CLERK.
UH, THERE WILL BE ONE IN THIS FIRST ITERATION OF THE BUDGET THAT REPORTS TO ERICA.
WE'VE ADDED A MAINTENANCE TECH, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS DUE TO THE FACT WE HAVE A NEW BUILDING THAT'S GONNA NEED MAINTENANCE TECH.
AND, UM, FINALLY MADE IT THE SHERIFF'S CRIMINAL INTEL ANALYST.
I'VE TRIED TO GET THAT IN THE BUDGET THE LAST THREE BUDGETS AND COULDN'T, COULDN'T GET IT IN.
AND AT LEAST THIS TIME IT'S IN THE FIRST FIRST DRAFT OF THE BUDGET.
UM, SO WE'VE GOT A 4% MERIT RAISE FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES WHO DID NOT GET A STEP RAISE THAT EXCEEDS 4%.
SO IF YOUR STEP RAISE TAKES YOU UP ABOVE THE 4%, YOU DON'T ALSO GET A 4% ON TOP OF THAT.
UH, WE HAVE A 3% RAISE FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS.
UH, WE HAVE 13,000 PER EMPLOYEE ALLOCATED FOR INSURANCE.
UH, THE RETIREMENT, WE'VE, UH, I'VE CONTINUED TO REDUCE THE STIPEND.
UH, IT'S NOW DOWN IN THIS BUDGET TO, TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS, UH, PER RETIRED PERSON THAT WAS GETTING THE STIPEND.
BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS US BETWEEN A TWO AND 3% COLA FOR OUR RETIREES.
SO WHILE WE'RE TAKING THE STIPEND AWAY, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT A, UH, A COLA.
UH, WE ARE PUTTING 10% INTO RETIREMENT FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES.
SO, UH, WE'RE OUR, OUR PENSION, OUR INSURANCE IS, IS WELL FUNDED.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS JUST LOOKING OUT THAT, THAT I'M GOING TO ATTEMPT TO DO WITH THE SHERIFF'S SB 22 FUNDS, MY GOAL IS NEXT YEAR TO USE THAT TO BUY VEHICLES.
UM, AND, AND THAT WITH THE CAPITAL PURCHASE THAT WE MADE THIS YEAR DOING SB 22 NEXT YEAR, MAN, THAT SHOULD GET US IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE WITH THE VEHICLES FOR, FOR THE SHERIFF.
UH, IT, IT SHOULD AND, AND I'M HOPEFUL I NEED TO DIG IN THAT THAT'S MY GOAL IS, IS TO USE THE MONEY AND QUITE HONEST, UH,
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IT, IT'S JUST EASIER TO PULL THAT SB 22 AWAY FROM SALARIES, UH, AND, AND HAVE IT GO TO BUY MATERIALS AND GOODS.UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE AT THE SHERIFF.
WE'VE, UH, ADDRESSED IN THIS BUDGET, UH, SOMEWHAT OF AN OVERSIGHT AT THE DA'S OFFICE LAST YEAR.
UH, AND KIND OF SEMANTICS TRIPPED ME UP A LITTLE BIT.
I SAID ANYBODY THAT GOT SB 22 WASN'T ALSO GETTING THE RAISE.
I DIDN'T, EVEN THOUGH I SAID THAT, I DIDN'T INTEND THAT WHAT I INTENDED, ANYBODY THAT USED SB 22 AND GOT THEIR STEP RAISES WEREN'T ALSO GETTING A RAISE.
SO IT HIT SOME PEOPLE AT THE DA'S OFFICE WHO DIDN'T, DIDN'T GET A RAISE, UH, JUST BECAUSE THEY GOT SOME SB 22 FUNDS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT SIZING THEM, AND THEY'RE GONNA GET THE 4% ON TOP OF THAT.
UH, SO, UM, THAT IS JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF, OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
AGAIN, I DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE ROBUST DEBATE.
I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW KIND OF WHAT MY GOAL WAS.
UH, AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I'M A LITTLE SAD AND DISTRAUGHT THAT I COULDN'T GET TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, BUT I'VE, I'VE NOT GIVEN UP YET.
I'VE, I'VE LEFT SOME FUND BALANCES ALONE AND NOT EVEN LOOKED AT 'EM WITH, WITH THE HOPES THAT THE COURT WOULD, WOULD WADE IN ONCE YOU'VE HAD TIME TO FULLY ABSORB.
UM, ONE THING I WILL TELL YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET, YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT, UH, 2025 SALARY, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT 2026 SALARY.
THEY'RE GONNA BE JUST THE SAME.
AND YOU'RE GONNA SAY, WHERE'S THE 4%, WHERE'S THE 3%? GO TO PAGE THREE.
UH, AND THERE'LL BE A LINE ITEM THERE THAT HAS JUST SHY OF $1.3 MILLION.
THAT, THAT IS WHERE THAT MONEY IS HIDDEN.
UH, OUR, OUR NEW HIDDEN HIT, IT'S WHERE IT'S SP IT'S HIDDEN RIGHT THERE IN PLAIN SIGHT RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE.
UM, THE 503RD IS JUST OVER 1.6 MILLION.
AND THERE'S REALLY NO, NO, NO WAY AROUND IT.
UH, WE, WE NEED, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COURT.
WE NEED, WE NEED PEOPLE NOT JUST IN THE COURT, BUT THE DA'S OFFICE AND THE CLERK NEED PEOPLE.
SO, UH, THAT IS THE FIRST ITERATION OF THE BUDGET.
UH, AND I'LL ATTEMPT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WELL, I HAVE SEVERAL, BUT I HAVE ONE FIRST QUESTION IS, IS THE STEP PLAN FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FUNDED IN THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE BUDGET? YES, SIR.
I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT THE STEP PLAN IS FUNDED AND FUNDED IN THE SAME MANNER AS I DID PREVIOUSLY.
IF, UH, YOUR STEP PLAN DIDN'T GET YOU TO A 4% MERIT RAISE, THEN, THEN WE FIGURED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR STEP PLAN AND THE 4%.
IF YOUR STEP PLAN GOT YOU ABOVE 4%, THEN YOU GET THE STEP PLAN.
AND SO, AND AGAIN, MAYBE A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT TO DEPARTMENT HEADS, THE 4% IS A MERIT RAISE.
SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERY EMPLOYEE WILL GET 4%.
IT IS UP TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO RUN THEIR DEPARTMENT UNLESS THIS COURT CHANGES THEIR MIND IN THE SECOND DRAFT OF THE BUDGET.
THAT'S HOW YOU WROTE THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE BUDGET.
UM, THE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS SOME CIVILIAN CARS.
GRANTED, I WAS READING THIS BUDGET ON MY PHONE.
I'M ASSUMING ALL OF THAT IS INCLUDED IN GENERAL FUND AND THERE IS NO FUND TRANSFERS FROM F FROM THIS FY TO COVER ANY OF THOSE CARS.
UM, I HAVE AN EXTREMELY RANDOM QUESTION.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE.
AS I WAS FLIPPING THROUGH THE BUDGET ON MY PHONE, I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS ONE DISTRICT JUDGE THAT DIDN'T GET A LAPTOP APPROVED IN THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE BUDGET, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE EVERY OTHER WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT OR A TYPO.
I MAY HAVE JUST BEEN ANGRY THAT DAY.
IT JUST STUCK OUT TO ME WHEN I WAS FLIPPING THROUGH AGAIN, I WASN'T HERE TO TRY TO DO, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT I WAS THINKING, MELISSA? NO, I DO NOT.
SO THERE, THERE, I DID DIG INTO THOSE A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT DEEPER OF, HEY, IS IT AT ITS END OF LIFE OR CAN WE, CAN WE GET ANOTHER YEAR? UM, AND, AND THERE IS NO FUND TRANSFER TO FUND 180 5 IN THIS DRAFT.
SO THAT WASN'T, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE BUDGET.
AND THEN, UM, THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE AND, AND, AND IS I, I THINK, WELL, ON THURSDAY I'M GONNA AT LEAST MAKE THE MOTION FOR US TO, UM, MOVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FROM THREE PEOPLE TO TWO PEOPLE.
I DO KNOW THAT THE CITIES HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PART OF THAT, BUT THERE IS A CAR, AN EMERGENCY
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MANAGEMENT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED AS A FIRE MARSHAL.SO THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME ADDED BENEFIT IN DOING THAT.
MY QUESTION IS FOR US TO LOOK INTO IS THAT IF THAT WERE TO PASS AND, AND IT WOULD REDUCE THE BUDGET THAT THE CITY'S ALREADY APPROVED, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT? BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE'VE SENT A BUDGET TO THE CITIES, AND THE CITIES HAVE PAID IN, IF WE REDUCE THAT PRICE POINT, DO WE SEND THE CITIES AN UPDATED INVOICE SAYING THAT, THAT WE REDUCED IT BECAUSE THE COURT STILL HAS TO APPROVE THE BUDGET? SO MY QUESTION IS MORE PROCEDURAL THAN US DEBATING WHETHER THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
I COULD GET OUT VOTED, BUT I'M JUST ASKING HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
I DON'T, UH, I DID, SORRY, JUDGE.
I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
UH, I DID SPEAK, UH, BY EMAIL WITH, UH, THE CITY MANAGER OF MARY SMITH YESTERDAY, AND I ASKED HER ABOUT THE FINAL BUDGET AMOUNT FOR US ON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
AND, UH, IT WAS LEFT MORE OPEN THAT IT WAS THE DECISION OF THIS COURT.
UH, I'M NOT SURE IF SHE WAS REFERRING TO JUST MERIT INCREASE OR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED WITH THE CONSORTIUM.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS COULD OR COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
I JUST, I'M JUST SAYING, I, I JUST KIND OF WANT THAT VETTED OUT.
'CAUSE I WOULD HATE FOR US TO GET INTO AN HOUR LONG DEBATE ON THURSDAY, WHETHER IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR A BAD IDEA IF THE SHIP HAS ALREADY SAILED.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT BEFORE WE HAVE THE DEBATE.
I, I CAN CONFIRM WITH HER FOR YOU, UH, AND THEN GET YOU SOME INFORMATION AFTER COURT TODAY.
UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, HER, HER EMAIL TO ME INFERRED THAT IT WAS STILL A FINAL DECISION OF, OF, OF WHAT YOU ALL WERE DOING.
THE, THE CITY, EXCUSE ME, THE CITIES HAVEN'T ADOPTED A BUDGET YET.
I DON'T THINK ANY CITY HAS, BUT THEY DEFINITELY HAVE OUR, THE AMOUNT WE SENT THEM.
SO ANYWAYS, TH THOSE WERE, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I DID, WE JUST GOT IT LATE YESTERDAY.
UM, DANIEL, CAN YOU, CAN YOU DIG INTO THE, THE LEGALITIES THERE? OR MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A BETTER ONE.
CAN, CAN, CAN YOU DIG INTO THE LEGALITIES OF THAT, THE EMERGENCY SERVICES CONTRACT? SO COMMISSIONER STACY IS ASKING, WE'VE SENT THE BUDGET TO THE CITIES AND, AND THE COUNTY PAYS HALF THE CITIES BASED ON THEIR STRENGTH DIVVY UP THE, THE REMAINING HALF.
WE'VE ALREADY SENT THE BUDGET TO THEM.
WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY APPROVE THE BUDGET AND THEN WE REDUCE OUR BUDGET, WE REDUCE THE, THE HEAD COUNT FROM THREE TO TWO.
DO DO WE SEND A CHECK BACK TO THEM OR DO WE JUST CORRECT WHAT CAN YOU I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER AS I STAND HERE, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
THIS IS A TON OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, I REALLY APPRECIATED YOUR LITTLE SUMMARY YOU JUST GAVE AND WOULD ASK IF IT'S POSSIBLE, COULD YOU GET US THAT SUMMARY PRIOR TO OUR MEETING ON THURSDAY? BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING THE OVERVIEW, IF WE KIND OF HAVE THE BIG RULES THAT YOU'VE IMPLEMENTED IN DOING THIS, IT WILL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER THAN WHEN, AS WE SCOUR THE LINE ITEMS. IF YOU COULD DO THAT, I'D SURE APPRECIATE.
I JUST HAVE A QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTION, UH, ONLY BECAUSE I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THIS COURT ASK ME ABOUT IT.
SO THE STIPEND ISSUE WHERE YOU REDUCED IT BY A HUNDRED DOLLARS LAST YEAR AND WE REDUCED IT BY A HUNDRED DOLLARS AGAIN THIS YEAR? CORRECT.
HAVE WE MADE THAT MONEY UP TO THOSE RETIREES THAT WE TOOK THE MONEY FROM BY DOING A, IS THAT YOUR GOAL OR ARE WE JUST LEAVING THEM SHORTER THAN THEY WERE? WE HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION ON THE NEXT COURT.
I'LL BE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT BECAUSE WHAT I FEEL LIKE HAS HAPPENED IS THAT WE DID NOT DO THAT LAST YEAR, AND I HOPE WE ARE GOING TO FIX THAT THIS YEAR.
WELL THAT I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE ADDRESSED IT PROPERLY LAST YEAR, AND ESPECIALLY NOT TO THOSE RETIREES.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHAT USED TO BE $300 A MONTH TO CERTAIN PEOPLE? YES, I AM.
I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
SO I'LL BE INTERESTED IN THAT.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? SO THE BUDGET'S APPROVED, THE BUDGET IS NOT APPROVED,
I BEAT YOU UP FOR A MASK, FRANK.
I THOUGHT, UH, JUDGE, I I THINK YOU DID WRITE A GREAT BUDGET.
I, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR HEART TO GET THE NO, NO REVENUE RATE.
I SHARE THAT DESIRE AND THAT HEART.
UM, AND, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY YOU DID WRITE A GOOD BUDGET AND FROM NOW UNTIL ABOUT SEPTEMBER 9TH, I'M PROBABLY GONNA BEAT IT UP, UM, EVERY TIME WE GET TOGETHER.
BUT, UM, WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS.
BUT I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
REALLY, REALLY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK.
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HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS AND RACKING YOUR BRAIN.WELL, AND, AND NOT JUST ME AND THE AUDITOR, MELISSA AND MELISSA, LISA CAMIE.
ERICA KNICKERBOCKER, I MEAN, IT'S A, YEAH.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TALK ONE MORE THING, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, UH, AND THE VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE AND OUR PRIOR TAX RATE, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, WHICH I THINK I AM, REGARDLESS OF WHICH RATE WE CHOOSE, THE VOTERS WILL GET A REDUCTION IN THE TAX RATE BASED UPON LAST YEAR'S THAT, THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
SO ANYTHING WE DO, WHETHER IT'S A NO NEW REVENUE RATE OR THE VOTER APPROVED RATE OR WHATEVER, UH, THE VOTERS WILL GET A REDUCTION IN THEIR TAXES, THEIR TAX RATE.
THEIR TAX RATE FOR NEXT YEAR, THEY'RE ALL RIGHT.
AND THAT'S, WE HAVE CONTROL OVER, WE DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER THE VALUES THAT ARE ASSESSED TO 'EM, BUT AS FAR AS THE TAX RATE, WHATEVER WE DO, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WILL BE GIVING THE VOTERS A REDUCTION IN THEIR TAX RATE.
I CAN'T SEE US DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN GIVING THEM A REDUCTION.
AGAIN, MY, MY GOAL IS TO GET TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.
[19. CONSENT AGENDA]
SO, ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 19, WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ONE ITEM OFF AGENDA OR ITEM 19, I'D LIKE TO PULL E OFF OF CONSENT AGENDA.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA A THROUGH D AND F THROUGH J.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.
M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
[19.e. Commissioner Stacy - Acknowledge Proposed Change Order 60 and 62 to the agreement with Hill & Wilkinson Construction Group for the Rockwall County Annex project]
ARE WE PULLING E OFF FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION OR JUST UH, YEAH, I WOULD PULL IT OFF FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.AND JUST NOT, DIDN'T WANT IT IN THE CONSENT TO AGENDA.
AND THE REASON I DID THAT IS BECAUSE, LET ME FIND IT HERE.
E IS INCLUDES CHANGE ORDER 62.
WHICH IS THE NEMO Q NEMO Q PROJECT, WHICH WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN MY OPINION, AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO.
BUT I, I HAVE ALREADY STATED MY OPINION ON THIS AND I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO VOTE NO ON THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE OF ONE ITEM.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR IF SOMEBODY HAS FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER 60 AND 62 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH HILL WIL AND CONSTRUCTION GROUP FOR THE ROCKWALL COUNTY ANNEX PROJECTS.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY SECOND.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FOUR TO ONE.
[20. PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS/DISPOSITIONS]
BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 20, DISCUSSING ACT ON APPROVING THE FOLLOWING PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS AND DISPOSITIONS OF FIXED ASSETS.LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT READINESS GRANT TRAVEL AND TRAINING.
WE HAVE AUDITOR TRANSFER TO SURPLUS.
WE HAVE GENERAL GOVERNMENT MOVING MONEY FOR CONTINGENCY TO RELOCATE THE COUNTY ANNEX.
WE HAVE THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S PURCHASE OF A DOCUMENT SCANNER AND IT TO PURCHASE EQUIPMENT FOR A Y DRIVE EXPANSION.
JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PROPERTY ACQUISITION DISPOSITIONS, 20 A, B, C, D, AND E.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY SECOND, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE.
[21. NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFER(S)]
ZERO.THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 21, NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS.
2025 DASH 20 DASH 21 DASH 22 DASH 23 AND 24.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.
I'LL SECOND THEN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LTE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE.
THAT PASSES, SAYS FIVE TO ZERO.
[22. APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL(S)]
US TO AGENDA ITEM 22, APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS AND PAYROLL.UM, SUBMITTED TO THE COURT, PAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $592,832 AND 24 CENTS AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GALEANO.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LTI, IF YOU'LL REGISTER.
YOUR VOTES NOW PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
I'M ALSO SUBMITTING TO THE COURT UNPAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,112,987 AND 6 CENTS.
AND I ASKED FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.
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APPROVE.GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.
IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
I HAVE TWO PAYROLL REPORTS TO SUBMIT TO YOU.
I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT A PAYROLL REPORT FOR THE PAY PERIOD ENDING JULY 19TH, 2025 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,112,579 AND 86 CENTS.
AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K.
IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
I'LL ALSO SUBMIT TO YOU PAYROLL REPORT NUMBER TWO FOR THE PAY PERIOD ENDING AUGUST 2ND, 2025 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,099,227 AND 73 CENTS.
AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICH DEEF, YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW.
MAN, I THINK THAT WAS OUR LAST CHANCE TO GET ANY PAYROLL UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT THERE.
AND WE, WE, WE MISSED IT AND WE'LL NEVER, NEVER SEE A SUB MILLION DOLLARS AGAIN.
[23. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 23, EXECUTIVE SESSION.THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ROCKWALL COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS LISTED IN THIS AGENDA.
ITEM IN THE ORDER DEEMED APPROPRIATE AS AUTHORIZED BY CHAPTER 5 5 1 OPEN MEETING SUBCHAPTER D TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF ATTORNEY.
WE WILL BE GOING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION AND ATTORNEY-CLIENT INFORMATION.
NUMBER ONE, DMDS SLASH DR. HORTON VERSUS ROCKWALL COUNTY, ET AL.
NUMBER TWO, PECOS COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE ACTION NUMBER THREE, PURDUE PHARMA PROPOSED BANKRUPTCY PLAN AND SETTLEMENT AND UNDER PERSONNEL MATTERS DISCUSSION REGARDING EMPLOYEE TERMINATION APPEAL.
DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT AND DUTIES OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.074.
THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND THREE STRATEGIC PLAN, IMPLEMENTATION MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION REGARDING SUPPORTING ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND FOUR EMPLOYEE AND RELATED CONTRACTED FUNDING.
AND ITEM D UNDER ADVICE OF COUNSEL TO REVIEW OF EXISTING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS AND NUMBER TWO, ONSITE SEWER FACILITIES RULES AND UPDATES.
AND AT 10 36, WE ARE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU EVERYONE.
AT 1 21 WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 5 5 1 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.001.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION TO TAKE ANY ACTION NECESSARY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND I CAN TELL YOU NO ACTION WAS TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I WILL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS IF SOMEBODY IS SO INCLINED.
JUDGE, I HAVE A COUPLE MOTIONS REGARDING ITEM 23 A.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ROCKWELL COUNTY PAYING THE FEES AND EXPENSES OF THE COUNTY'S LEGAL COUNSEL IN THE LAWSUIT BROUGHT BY DMDS LAND COMPANY AND DR HORTON VERSUS ROCKWALL COUNTY.
TO THE EXTENT SUCH FEES AND EXPENSES ARE APPROPRIATELY ALLOCATED TO THE DEFENSE OF THE COUNTY JUDGE AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITIES IN SUCH LITIGATION, HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTI SECOND.
IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
JUDGE ALSO RELATED TO ITEM 23 A, UM, SUBSECTION THREE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED 13TH BANKRUPTCY PLAN, UH, FOR PURDUE PHARMA IN THEIR PROPOSED BANKRUPTCY OR IN THEIR BANKRUPTCY PROCEEDING.
AND TO ASK OUR GENERAL COUNSEL TO NOTIFY UH, COUNTY'S COUNSEL OF THAT DECISION.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
AND JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON, UM, ITEM 23 C.
UM, IT IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PROMOTE EMPLOYEE NUMBER 1 8 9 7 WITH A NEW SALARY OF $42,500 EFFECTIVE AUGUST 13TH, 2025.
GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.
IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO AND THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM.
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BEAR WITH ME 25 COMMISSIONER COURT REPORTS.LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER STACEY DOWN HERE.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, I, UM, JUST LOOKING IN THE BACK, I WANT TO THANK OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, UM, AND, AND DAVID WHITE FOR BUILDING THE SHELVES, UM, THAT I KNOW THAT THE HISTORIC FOUNDATION WORKED REALLY HARD ON.
BUT, UH, UM, I GUESS AT ONE POINT, UM, I HAD TO GET UP AND, AND WALK ACROSS THE STREET FROM ALL THE BANGING AND AND DRILLING, UH, IN THE WALL RIGHT NEXT TO MY OFFICE.
SO I JUST WANNA THANK THE HARD WORK OF THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT TO COME THROUGH.
I THINK IT LOOKS FANTASTIC, THE HISTORIC FOUNDATION AND EVERYBODY FOR, UH, PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
COMMISSIONER LICHTY
SO NOT A LOT OF OFFICIAL ACTIONS OCCURRED.
HOWEVER, THERE WERE SEVERAL MATTERS WHICH OCCURRED IN PREPARATION FOR THE UPCOMING REVOLUTIONARY WAR, INCLUDING ON AUGUST 14TH, 1775, MAJOR JOHN BROWN, RETURN TO TA KONDO ROGAN, NEW YORK FROM A SCOUTING MISSION TO CANADA.
HIS REPORT THAT THE FRENCH AND INDIAN POPULATIONS IN CANADA WOULD REMAIN NEUTRAL, ENCOURAGED GENERAL SKYLER TO INVADE CANADA.
ON THAT SAME DATE, AUGUST 14TH, 1775, THE PENNSYLVANIA JOURNAL REPORTED THAT AN INDIAN CHIEF NAMED SHAN AND FOUR OTHERS OF THE ST.
FRANCIS TRIBE CAME TO OFFER THEIR SERVICES IN SUPPORT OF THE AMERICANS FIGHTING FOR LIBERTY.
UH, WHICH BRINGS UP AN INTERESTING ISSUE BECAUSE THE REAL REVOLUTIONARY WAR HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT UPON THE NATIVE AMERICAN POPULATION.
WITH SOME LIKE THE MOHAWKS SIDING WITH THE BRITISH AND SOME LIKE THE ONEIDA AND TUSKA AURORA TRIBES SIDING WITH THE AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARIES.
BUT MANY JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO REMAIN NEUTRAL IN GENERAL.
IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE PEACE TREATY THAT ENDED IT HAD A VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT UPON THE NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES, BOTH IN THE ORIGINAL 13 COLONIES AND IN THE LAND TO THE WEST THAT WAS SEEDED TO THE UNITED STATES.
COMMISSIONER M**K, I LOVE THAT YOU USED THE WORD SIGNIFICANT IMPACT 'CAUSE I'M GONNA NOW USE THAT AS WELL.
'CAUSE TODAY IS NATIONAL VINYL RECORD DAY, AND I WANT US TO THINK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THAT VINYL RECORDS HAVE.
BUT NOW HOW DO WE LISTEN TO MUSIC WE DOWNLOADED AND WE PUT IT ON OUR PHONES AND SO FORTH.
MY 16-YEAR-OLD SON GOT A VINYL IN THE MAIL YESTERDAY.
SO DEFINITELY I'VE KIND OF THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING JUST, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT WAS TODAY.
BUT THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT,
AND I'LL BE DOING THAT AGAIN, UH, THURSDAY AT, UH, THE ROCKWALL ROCKWALL ROTARY CLUB.
SO FOR ANY ROTARY MEMBERS LISTENING, UM, PLEASE COME.
IT'S AN INTERESTING TOPIC AND BRING A GUEST.
AND DID THE, IS TOMORROW A SIGNIFICANT DAY FOR YOU,
WELL, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU BOTH.
UH, SO WITH MY UPDATE, I WANNA SAY THERE WERE, UH, KIDS STANDING OUT AT THE BUS STOP THIS MORNING.
SO JUST, UH, EVERYBODY ALLOW A LITTLE EXTRA TIME.
IT'LL TAKE THEM A LITTLE WHILE TO GET BACK INTO THE SCHOOL MODE.
UH, SO AT 1 27, WE ARE ADJOURNED.