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OF LINE ITEMS AND[*This meeting was joined in progress.]
[2. Discuss/Act on the FY2026 draft budget, and all related issues; (Judge New — Auditor) www.rockwallcountytexas.com/DocumentCenter/View/12564/FY26-PROPOSED-BUDGET Please see the attached Rockwall County Taxpayer Impact Statement]
I SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BUY, WE'RE GONNA BUY THINGS INSTEAD OF PAYING PEOPLE WITH THIS GRANT MONEY.AND SO WE STILL HAVE EIGHT VEHICLES THAT WE KIND OF APPROVED.
AND IF THAT, OUR ROTATION IS EIGHT TO EIGHT TO 10.
AND SO IT, IT, ALL OF THAT MONEY GOING TOWARDS VEHICLES, WE WOULDN'T EVEN, WE WOULDN'T EVEN GET EIGHT.
I THOUGHT WE PAID FOR THOSE EIGHT.
BUT THEN NEXT YEAR THERE'LL BE MORE.
EVERY YEAR WE'RE GONNA GET EIGHT TO 10 VEHICLES.
SO WE'LL EARMARK THIS MONEY FOR THE NEXT ROTATION, WHICH WILL BE EIGHT TO 10, JUDGE.
UH, JUST FOR OUR CLARIFICATION, SO WE ARE GOING TO KEEP FUND 41 IN THE, THE, THIS ANNUAL BUDGET AND JUST MARK IT AS CAPITAL PURCHASES? YES MA'AM.
MONEY OUT CAPITAL PURCHASES? YES MA'AM.
AND THEN DECISIONS CAN BE MADE? YES, MA'AM.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE SPENDING IT NOW.
WE CAN, WE HAVE TO GET THE MONEY, DO IT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR APPLICATION FOR THE MONEY.
WE'LL GET THE FUNDS AND THEN THE, THE GRANT HAS CRITERIA OF, OF HOW WE HAVE TO SPEND IT.
AND I THINK THE DEADLINE, WE DO HAVE A DEADLINE TO FILL THAT PAPERWORK OUT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S UNTIL LIKE THE END OF THIS YEAR.
IS THAT DECEMBER 31ST OR SOMETIME? YEAH, I DON'T EVEN, FIRST OF THE YEAR.
I THINK JANUARY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
THEY, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE TAKING THIS OUT OF FUND 41 NOW DOESN'T AFFECT US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER CORRECT.
IN APPLYING FOR THOSE FUNDS? NO, IT DOES NOT.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SO WE HAD THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY.
WE HAD MY SECOND TO REMOVE THE VEHICLE.
UH, SO IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.
THE NEXT THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO, JUDGE, IS I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE CLOUD GAVEL.
UM, I THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO CRUNCH NUMBERS AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA FIND THE $40,000 IN THE BUDGET.
SO I WANNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THAT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN TRY TO GET THAT IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO GOT A MOTION TO REMOVE CLOUD GAVEL FROM THE TYLER SOFTWARE FUND.
GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE.
AND THEN, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO BACK TO OUR SPECIAL FUNDS AT THIS POINT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT EVERYTHING LEFT OVER THERE IS MOVING FUND BALANCE, INCREASING THE CONTINGENCY, UM, DEPUTY CONSTABLES ITEMS, UM, AND THEN APPROVING THE TWO PART-TIME CLERKS TO PURCHASE IT OUT OF FUND 56.
SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE COURT, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE REST OF THE SPECIAL FUND ITEMS ON THIS REVISION SHEET.
SO WE ARE, UH, THE ROAD AND BRIDGE HAS NO COST IMPLICATIONS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, A FUND, A FUND BALANCE, UH, TRANSFER FOR FUND 51.
THAT INCREASES THE CONTINGENCY.
AND THEN WE'RE DOING, UM, UNIFORM FOR OUR PART-TIME DEPUTY CONSTABLE.
THEN WE'RE DOING COMPUTER AND ACCESSORIES FOR DEPUTY CONSTABLE.
AND THEN IN FUND 56, UH, WE ARE ADDING THE COMPUTER AND ACCESSORIES FOR THE TWO PART-TIME JP CLERKS AND, AND WE'RE ALSO TRANSFERRING 790,000.
WELL, I, I KIND OF SAID LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL AS PRESENTED.
WELL ON THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL WE'VE GOT 1.1 MILLION FROM FUND 2 0 3.
AND THEN ON THE FIRST PAGE WE HAVE 1.1 MILLION THAT'S GOING INTO FUND 2 0 3, WHICH IS WHERE THE REMODEL IS.
THE 1.1 COMES OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN IT IS POSITIONED IN THE FUND 2 0 3 OKAY.
FOR THE EXPENSES TO BE DRAWN OUT.
SO, SO IT'S STILL JUST THE 1.1 MILLION FROM FUND BALANCE.
IT DIDN'T BECOME 2.2 MAGICALLY.
WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS JUST MOVING IT FROM ONE POCKET TO ANOTHER BEFORE WE SPEND IT.
ULTIMATELY IT'S FUNDED FROM YOUR GENERAL FUND THOUGH.
THAT'S WHY IT'S IN BOTH PLACES.
WELL, IT'S FUNDED FROM OUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
WHICH IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT CHANGING THE WAY THESE NUMBERS COME OUT.
IT'S GOING TO BE FROM FUND BALANCE.
YEAH, FUND BALANCE INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND INTO FUND 2 0 3 AND THEN THE SEVEN 90 COMES FROM FUND 51 INTO 2 0 3.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY TO
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APPROVE ALL THE REMAINING SPECIAL FUNDS ON OUR LATEST SHEET.UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER, DID I GET A SECOND ON THAT OR NO? SECOND.
COMMISSIONER ALANA, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH, WAIT, I STILL DO.
UH, THIS JUST CAME OUT BY THE WAY.
I WAS HANDED TO THIS WHEN I SAT DOWN HERE, SO IT'S NOT LIKE I DIDN'T GET TO TAKE THE TIME.
TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED ALL THE STUDYING YOU DID THIS WEEKEND WAS ON WRONG MATERIAL.
I'M GETTING READY FROM MY MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN MEETING THIS AFTERNOON.
SO CAPITAL LEASE WE'VE GOT AT NA FUND 20, THE CAPITAL LEASE FROM ROAD BRIDGE.
COULD, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT FOR ME PLEASE? UH, THIS IS A LEASE FOR, UM, AN EQUIPMENT THAT THEY, RIGHT.
SO THE FIRST YEAR IS THE AMOUNT OF THE TRADE IN, THEREFORE THERE'S NO DOLLAR IMPLICATIONS FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY ROAD BRIDGE, THE ENGINEER.
NO, I REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WE JUST WERE ASKED TO VOTE ON ALL THESE LINE ITEMS AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS LINE ITEM.
SO, SO THAT, THAT IS TRADING OUR EQUIPMENT IN AGAIN THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN IT'S 45,000, UH, A YEAR AFTER THAT FOR FOUR YEARS.
AT WHICH POINT, AND WHAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, 'CAUSE I, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE LEASE AGREEMENT SAYING WE COULD ONLY, UH, UH, USE IT UP TO A THOUSAND HOURS A YEAR.
AND, AND MY QUESTION WAS WHAT IF WE GO OVER THE THOUSAND HOURS AND THEY SAID DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
WHAT I DIDN'T REALIZE, THIS TRULY IS NOT A LEASE, IT IS A LEASE TO OWN LEASE PURCHASE.
A LEASE PURCHASE AT THE END OF IT, WE OWN THE EQUIPMENT SO THE HOURS TRULY DON'T MATTER.
AND I LOST INTEREST WHEN I FIGURED THAT OUT.
AND COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER, I THINK THE MAIN REASON THAT WE HAVE IT ON HERE IS JUST SO THAT IT, IT, IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL OUTLAY SHEETS AND THE BUDGET SHEETS THAT THERE IS, UH, AN ONGOING EXPENSE FOR SOMETHING YOU'RE BUYING.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE APPROVING TO BUY THIS OR TO LEASE TO OWN.
AND WE'RE APPROVING HERE, I GUESS TO TAKE THE EXISTING PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO USE BECAUSE FOR WHATEVER THE REASONS THAT WERE EXPLAINED TO US AND WE'RE TRADING THAT IN, THAT'S HOW WE UNDERSTAND IT.
WE HAD THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY.
WE HAD THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.
AND JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMOVE, UM, THE PARK HILL, UH, $244,000.
'CAUSE THAT WAS A QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THIS TOO, SO, OKAY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY TO REMOVE THE PARK HILL NEW COURTHOUSE.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IS THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
AND MY NEXT ONE IS, UH, ON THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE DOORS.
THERE, UH, THERE'S A THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WE COULD DO, UH, CONTROLLED ACCESS TO THE HANDICAPPED DOOR FOR MAYBE AROUND $30,000, UM, RATHER THAN REPLACING DOORS RIGHT NOW.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, THAT WE LOOK AT DOING A CAPITAL OUTLAY OF $30,000 FOR THE HANDICAP DOOR ACCESS CONTROLS AND NOT ANY OF THE DOOR REPLACEMENTS.
I HATE TO GET IN THE WEEDS ON WEED.
I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF, I I'M NOT A, I MEAN, I I'M COMING AROUND THAT IT IS GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE.
AND THIS IS MAYBE NOT THE YEAR POINT.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
OH, THERE, THERE, THERE, THERE IS A MOTION.
THERE'S MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.
NOW QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, FURTHER DISCUSSION.
A AND AGAIN, IT'S LIKE I SAID, I I, I DON'T WANT US TO GET IN ON THE WEEDS, BUT THE WEEDS ARE IMPORTANT.
WITH A BUILDING LIKE THIS AND THE AMOUNT OF VISITORS THAT COME TO IT AND THE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS THAT ARE HELD IN HERE.
AND SO WE WILL NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES AND HAVING THE SUPPORT STAFF HERE IN THE BUILDING WHEN SOMEONE'S BUZZING TO GET IN.
AND MAYBE NONE OF US ARE HERE, OR EACH ONE OF US GOING TO HAVE OUR OWN BUZZER IN OUR OFFICE SO WE CAN PUSH AND LET SOMEONE COME IN.
OR IS IT ALL BEING DEPENDENT ON
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ONE PERSON IN THE, IN THE JUDGE'S OFFICE.AND, AND THAT IS TOTALLY FAIR.
AND, AND MY ONLY COMMENT BACK IS THAT IT'S ON US TO SPEND THE MONEY.
SO WE COULD DEFINITELY DO A POLICY AND PROCEDURE BEFORE WE SPENT IT.
AND IF WE CAN'T FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY.
THIS IS JUST PUTTING IT IN, IN THE BUDGET.
I DID PUT A NOTE TO DO THE POLICY PROCEDURE AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT IN THE, IN A VERY NEW, IN A VERY UPCOMING COURT, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO REALLY GET SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE DO HAVE A TENANT IN HERE RIGHT NOW THAT, UM, THEIR, THEIR, UM, DISTRICT DIRECTOR SPOKE TO US LAST WEEK.
AND SO WE'VE GOTTA KEEP THAT IN MIND ALSO.
AND IF WE CHOOSE TO, UM, ENGAGE ANY OTHER TENANTS IN THE EMPTY SPACE.
BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM KATRINA PEARSON'S OFFICE SAID THAT THERE WAS NO ISSUE WITH THE ACCESS CONTROLS BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE HERE TO LET PEOPLE IN ANY WAY, CORRECT.
SO IF WE WERE TO DO IT THAT WAY, THEY WOULD BE FINE.
BUT YES, I DO AGREE THAT IF WE DO TENANTS, THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
WELL, THE VOTE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, WHICH I AGREE WITH BOTH OF YOU.
UM, BUT LAST WEEK I'D LIKE TO REMEMBER WE HAD A MEETING IN HERE WHERE BARRY COMPTON TOLD US THAT TWO OF THOSE DOORS ARE AT THERE AND ARE DONE LEFT.
THEY'RE AT THE END OF THE LIFE END AND THEY'RE USEFUL LIFE.
AND IF I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION CORRECTLY, IS TO ELIMINATE THE MONEY TO REPLACE THOSE DOORS.
AND IF THEY'RE AT THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE, WE NEED TO REPAIR 'EM.
AND IF WE DON'T DO IT THIS YEAR, WE'LL DO IT NEXT YEAR.
AND IF THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS TELLING US ANYTHING, THERE'S GONNA BE LESS MONEY NEXT YEAR THAN THERE IS THIS YEAR.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M GONNA VOTE NO ON THIS MOTION.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, WE HAVE THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES THREE TO TWO.
WELL, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I WOULD WAIT TO GET TO THIS ONE BEFORE I GOT LAUREN WORKED UP, BUT HERE WE GO.
HEY, YOU, YOU WANT TO DO AN EASY ONE AND REMOVE CLOUD GAVEL ALREADY DID THAT.
YOU DID THAT ALREADY? I ALREADY REMOVED CLOUD GAVEL.
THIS, THIS ONE, THIS ONE IS, UM, DIRECTLY TEED UP FOR COMMISSIONER LICHTY.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING.
I WANT TO REMOVE THE DA EXPANSION AND FUND IT WITH $250,000 OF FUND BALANCE.
I BET THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE SOME CONVERSATION.
THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION.
I JUST THREW AN IDEA OUT THERE FOR, FOR LAUREN.
WHERE DID YOU COME UP WITH 250,000.
BECAUSE AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO LIMIT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.
WE ARE MEETING WITH THE ARCHITECT AND THE DA THIS AFTERNOON, UM, TO LOOK AT SOME SORT OF PHASED APPROACH.
UM, AND AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO SAY THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE WILLING TO SPEND GETTING THIS DA'S OFFICE EXPANSION.
SO IT WAS ME TRYING TO SET A LINE WHERE I COULD GO TO THE ARCHITECT AND SAY, THE COURT HAS APPROVED 250,000.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THAT MONEY? LET'S FOCUS ON WHAT WE AGREE ON.
AT SOME POINT WE DO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
UM, THINGS I HAVE CONCERN WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT YOU SAID YOU'RE MEETING HIM WITH HIM AFTER THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, WE'LL KNOW MORE INFORMATION THEN.
UM, AND SECONDLY, THE 250,000 NUMBER MIGHT BE HIGH, MIGHT BE LOW, WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S, WE DON'T KNOW.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION TODAY.
AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD RATHER ACTUALLY HEAR WHAT THEY SAY BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS REMODELING THE OLD AUDITOR SPACE SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND YOU ALL KNOW WHERE I STAND ON IT, I THINK.
AND 250,000 IS MORE THAN I WOULD BE, BE WILLING TO SPEND RIGHT NOW UNLESS I KNEW MORE FACTS.
I PERSONALLY THINK TWO 50 IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A LOW NUMBER.
THAT SETTING A CAP IS PROBABLY A GREAT IDEA IN MY OPINION AT TWO 50.
AND HERE'S WHAT I AM ENVISIONING WITH THIS KIND OF PLAN, UM, IS FIRST WE NEED TO HAVE THE SPACE DESIGN FOR FULL BUILD OUT.
AND THEN WE NEED TO BITE OFF WHAT WE CAN CHEW THIS YEAR AND HAVE A PHASED PLAN APPROACH, IN MY OPINION, TO THIS DA EXPANSION.
SO MAYBE THIS YEAR TO MAKE IT OPERATIONAL, WE'RE ONLY GONNA SPEND THE 250 K AND THEN MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE WILL BUDGET ANOTHER 250 K.
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MAYBE THIS IS A TWO TO THREE YEAR PLAN, BUT FOR THIS YEAR TO GET 5, 6, 7 OFFICES WITH CLOSED LOCKED DOORS IN THERE, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER ENDS UP BEING WHEN YOU MEET WITH EVERYBODY.UM, I THINK SETTING A CAP FOR THIS YEAR IS A GOOD IDEA SO THAT NOBODY ELSE GETS DAZZLED BY A NUMBER.
THAT WE'RE GONNA GO SPEND MORE.
THE OTHER THING THAT WAS WHAT THAT YOU MENTIONED, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU RIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER, WAS THAT YOU WANNA TAKE IT OUT OF FUND BALANCE AND HERE WE GO.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE AGAINST THAT.
SO THAT'S THE SECOND REASON THAT I DON'T LIKE THIS PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW.
WHEN'S OUR NEXT MEETING? THURSDAY? THURSDAY.
THURSDAY MIGHT FEEL GREAT ABOUT IT THURSDAY, BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T LIKE IT.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE KNOW ENOUGH AND I DON'T LIKE TAKING OUT A FUND BALANCE AGAIN, I'LL SAY THE SAME THING I SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO.
IF ANYTHING THE LEGISLATURE IS TELLING US IS GONNA BE HARDER TO FIND MONEY NEXT YEAR THAN IT IS THIS YEAR.
SO WHAT IF WE DID THIS LAUREN? UM, WHAT IF WE WERE TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE BUDGET? 'CAUSE IT'S $962,000, THEN WE HAVE IT SITTING ON THE REVISION SHEET BLANK, AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON IT ON THURSDAY AFTER WE GET MORE INFORMATION.
SO THAT WAY IT DOESN'T DISAPPEAR OFF OF OUR RADAR.
BUT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PUTTING $962,000 IN THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE BUDGET.
AGAIN, LET'S FOCUS ON WHAT WE AGREE ON.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT OFF OUR RADAR.
SO, UM, WHY DON'T WE DO WHAT IT SAYS WE DID IN FOUR, WHICH IS WAITING ON ESTIMATE.
AND THAT ESTIMATE PROBABLY WILL GET MORE INFORMATION FROM YOUR MEETING.
AND I DID, I DID WANNA ASK, IS SB 22, IS THAT ALLOWED FOR NOT AT THE DA.
I I REMEMBERED THEIRS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE SHERIFF, SO I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT.
NO, TRUST ME, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M A FUND GRABBER, RIGHT, LISA? YES.
YOU ARE ON THE, ON THE FUND BALANCE DISCUSSION OR YOU'RE JUST WORRIED OUR FUND BALANCE IS GONNA GO TOO LOW.
IS THAT YOUR, WHAT ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT ON THE FUND BALANCE? I, WE, WE MAY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO NOT GO THERE FROM OUR TAX REVENUE TO NOT HAVE TO TAKE IT FROM THE FUND BALANCE.
AND, UM, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW ENOUGH TO MAKE THAT DECISION TODAY.
UM, OBVIOUSLY EVERY, EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COURT WANTS TO LOWER OUR TAX RATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
BUT AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, WHATEVER WE DO, WE'RE GONNA LOWER OUR TAX RATE.
UM, OUR FUND BALANCE, WE JUST GOT DONE TAKING A MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF IT.
NOT BECAUSE WE WERE AT THE TOP OF THE RANGE, BUT WE WERE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RANGE.
AND THIS WOULD BE TAKING ANOTHER CHUNK OF MONEY OUT OF THAT FUND BALANCE.
AND THERE'S A RANGE WHICH WE DISCUSSED WITH THE AUDITOR AT THE LAST WEEK'S MEETING AND WE'RE BEING PRUDENT IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, BUT I'M NOT READY TO TAKE MORE MONEY OUT OF FUND BALANCE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A FOUR TO SIX MONTH RANGE IS THE THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WHERE DID THAT MILLION TAKEN OUT? PUT US, DO YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY MONTHS OF FUND BALANCE THAT? RIGHT, RIGHT.
AT PROJECTED WOULD GIVE US FIVE, RIGHT? AT FIVE MONTHS.
SO PRIOR TO TAKING THAT OUT, WE WERE AT, AT THE TOP.
UM, SO THIS, NOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE, HEALTHY MIDDLE AND WE TEND TO END UP WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS LEFT OVER IN BUDGETS.
AND THERE TENDS TO BE USES FOR 'EM.
THERE TENDS TO BE THOSE SHOW UP AS WELL.
SO, SO, SO HERE, HERE, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO BASED ON THAT DISCUSSION COURT, IS I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE REVISION SHEET FOR DA EXPANSION TO WAITING ON ESTIMATE AND REMOVE THE 962,000 FROM THE NEXT DRAFT OF THE BUDGET.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER.
I WOULD SECOND THAT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICK DE IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES.
UM, SO JUST AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WHEN IS YOUR MEETING WITH THEM? UH, IN A COUPLE HOURS.
AND, AND I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS, BUT COMMISSIONER GOANA IS, IS CORRECT IF, IF WE SET A BENCHMARK, WE TEND TO SPEND TO IT PLUS CONTINGENCY.
SO I I DON'T HAVE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN.
BUT I JUST WANNA SAY IT TO MAKE MYSELF FEEL BETTER.
SO NOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE DISTRICT COURT, THE DISTRICT CLERK, UM, THAT IS GOING TO BE ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT.
UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT IT IS NECESSARY FOR THE ADDITION OF THE 503RD COURT, UM, TO HAVE IT AS STAFFED UP AS POSSIBLE.
I WANNA REMIND THE COURT THAT THE DISTRICT CLERK IS CURRENTLY WORKING A CASELOAD OF THREE COURTS BECAUSE THE OCA
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HAS SAID WE NEED A THIRD COURT.AND MOST OF THAT WORK IS FALLING ON THE DISTRICT CLERK RIGHT NOW.
AND AS BOBBY MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING, IT'S GONNA START SPEEDING UP THIS WORK.
'CAUSE THESE CASES ARE GONNA MOVE FASTER.
AND I JUST BELIEVE THAT ADDING THIS CLERK IS GONNA BE ESSENTIAL.
UM, AND I'M TRYING MY BEST TO CUT AS MUCH OUT OF THE BUDGET AS POSSIBLE.
BUT THIS IS ONE THAT I FEEL WE NEED TO STAND BY.
I, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WITH RAISES, I, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WITH CLERK PAY, I THINK THIS CLERK IS NECESSARY.
AND SO WAS WAS THAT A MOTION
SO I WANNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT, WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL 503RD DISTRICT CLERK, AND THEN ADDING THE COMPUTER AND MISCELLANEOUS ADDITIONS FOR $4,000.
SO WE HAVE THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KALANA.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
SO, UM, UH, I'M GONNA START WITH ITEM ONE BECAUSE THAT'S MY ITEM, UH, THAT I, THAT I BROUGHT TO THE COURT.
AND THAT IS DOING A 4%, BUT THEN MOVING THE RANGES 5.7%.
UM, IN DOING SOME VERY DETAILED MATH LAST WEEK AND SOME VERY RUSHED MATH THIS MORNING THAT I'M NOT PREPARED TO NECESSARILY PUBLICLY DO MY MATH FROM THIS MORNING 'CAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN DOUBLE CHECKED.
THE ONE THING THAT WE DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THE CHARTS ARE THE NEW POSITIONS.
IF, IF WE MOVE THE CHART, WE MOVED THE RATES ON THE NEW POSITIONS.
SO THAT WAS NOT REALLY ACCOUNTED FOR BECAUSE THE JUDGE'S INCREASE WAS A PERFORMANCE INCREASE, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY WERE PLANNING ON THESE NEW POSITIONS, WHICH ARE EXTENSIVE AS FAR AS HOW MANY THERE ARE FOR THE 503RD COURT.
MAINLY THAT THOSE ADDITIONS DID NOT INCLUDE A MOVEMENT OF THE CHART.
SO WITH THAT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT DOING A 4%, TAKE THE JUDGES 4% AND MOVE THE CHART 4%.
AND THAT IS GONNA HAVE SOME INCREASE.
UM, I'M ESTIMATED AROUND 30 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS IF WE WERE TO DO THE, THE FULL COURT.
UM, AND THAT WOULD AT LEAST HAVE THIS COURT LOOKING AT THE CHARTS, TRYING TO BE, TRYING TO BE AGGRESSIVE BUT NOT SPENDING $208,000 IN ADDITION TO $1.2 MILLION IN RAISES.
'CAUSE I, I'VE SAID BEFORE, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO, TO HAVE THE PAY RANGE, PAY SCALES CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF BUDGET TIME.
BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION MAKES ME WANT TO HAVE IT NOW WITH THIS BUDGET AND SAY, LET'S MOVE, LET'S LOOK AT MOVING THE SCALES 4%, MAKING SURE NO ONE TOPS OUT.
AND THEN DOING THE FULL BUDGET IMPACT OF THESE NEW POSITIONS, WHICH WE DON'T QUITE HAVE JUST YET.
UM, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, WE, YOUR PROPOSAL LAST WEEK OF 5.7% MOVEMENT ON THE SCALE MM-HMM
WAS BASED UPON CONSUMER PRICE INDEX FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
INCREASED FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
THAT HAS, UM, SOME LOGICAL SENSE TO ME MM-HMM
AND AS I TOLD YOU THEN, I LIKED IT, LIKED YOUR THINKING 4%.
IT'S, IT'S A SMALLER NUMBER SO IT'LL REDUCE SOME, BUT I THINK VERY LITTLE.
UM, I'M AN ADVOCATE OF STICKING WITH OUR STUDIES AS CAMMY AND I HAVE DISCUSSED, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS TRYING TO DO.
SO I WOULD JUST AS SOON KEEP IT AT WHAT YOU PROPOSED LAST WEEK AND KEEP IT AT 5.7%.
I JUST BELIEVE THAT THE $208,550 BUDGET IMPACT IS A LOT TO, TO TAKE IN ONE BUDGET.
AND I STILL THINK WE'RE MOVING, WE'RE KIND OF MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BECAUSE THEY, THERE, THERE WERE 9% IN RAISES YEAR OVER YEAR FROM, FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GO BACK TO THIS CHART AND GO, WE NEGLECTED THIS CHART.
AND, AND, AND I JUST WANNA SAY I, I FEEL, I, I THINK, I THINK THE WORD REGRET'S PRETTY STRONG.
BUT, BUT I THINK THAT I HAD A BLIND SPOT FOR HOW IMPORTANT THESE CHARTS WERE WHEN I TOOK OFFICE.
UM, AND, AND THE NECESSITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH THE CHARTS.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE WERE VERY GENEROUS WITH RAISES.
THIS WOULD BE 14% RAISES, UM, AS A COURT, AS THE THREE OF US HAVE BEEN, UM, AS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THE CHARTS DO PLAY A BIGGER ROLE IN GOVERNMENT HIRING AND, AND PEER REVIEW AND, AND HOW, AND HOW WE WORK.
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THAT MAYBE IF WE LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD HAVE KEPT UP WITH IT, WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE THAT BIG OF A HIT.4% WAS CALCULATED BY THE JUDGE.
I THINK THAT IS A GOOD FAIR RAISE.
UM, AND, AND WE CAN THEN TURN AROUND AND TRY NEXT YEAR TO GET THE CHART FULLY CAUGHT UP AFTER OUR FIRST TERM AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOOD.
I JUST THINK 208,000 IS A LOT.
UM, JUST, UM, FOR YOU COMMISSIONER, LUCKY TO THINK ABOUT, AND I'M GONNA MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE CONFUSING PROBABLY FOR EVERYBODY, BUT JUST FOLLOW ME FOR A MINUTE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT LINE ITEM ONE AND TWO, THAT'S ABOUT 250 GRAND.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE NEW COURT FUNDED FOR, UM, 11 MONTHS.
AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE WE ONLY NEED TO FUND IT FOR NINE STARTING IN JANUARY.
SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO ONLY FUND IT FOR NINE, WE PICK UP A 250 GRAND.
THAT WAS MY SECRET MONEY COMMISSIONER.
UM, REMEMBER YOUR COURT'S CHANGED NOW.
UM, AND, BUT I, YOU WERE TO SAY THIS, WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THIS ITEM ONE TO 4% FROM 5.7.
WELL THEN WE'RE GONNA COME TO ITEMS TWO AND THREE.
AND THIS IS WHERE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE COURT STANDS ON THIS, BUT MY THINKING IS IF WE FIX THE PAY SCALES CORRECTLY, AND WE HAVE CORRECT DESCRIPTIONS OF WHAT THOSE JOB DUTIES ARE, WHICH I'M TOLD WE DO BY OUR HR PROFESSIONALS, THEN TO START HAVING PEOPLE MOVE PAY GRADES IN ORDER TO COMPENSATE THEM IS THE WRONG WAY OF APPROACHING IT.
I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR PAY GRADES ADJUST BY OUR COST OF LIVING.
UM, AND THEN GIVING MERIT RAISES ON TOP OF THAT, WHICH IS THE 4% THE JUDGES TALKED ABOUT, WHICH I'M IN FAVOR OF.
THAT'S WHY I LIKE THIS PLAN THAT YOU CAME UP WITH LAST WEEK.
SO, UH, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL, LET'S TALK ABOUT TWO AND THREE WHILE WE'RE AT IT.
I, AS I UNDERSTAND THOSE TWO MOVES, THOSE ARE CHANGING CLERK GRADES, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TOLD BY OUR HR TEAM THAT THOSE GRADES ARE CORRECT DESCRIPTIONS OF THE WORK THEY'RE DOING AND, AND BEFORE, AND, AND I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT, BUT THAT ISN'T A, THEY, THEY DON'T ADD.
SO 40, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING.
SO TWO IS BE THE COUNTY CLERK AND DISTRICT CLERK, AND THEN THREE WOULD BE IF WE INCLUDED MORE CLERKS INTO IT.
SO THAT'S NOT A HUNDRED AND YEAH.
I'M JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE.
UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY, COMMISSIONER LTE IS THAT, LET'S REMEMBER THAT YOU ALSO STATED THAT WE'RE GONNA TRUST THE DATA THAT WE GOT AND THE DATA THAT WE GOT SAID THOSE CLERKS WERE KIND OF ISOLATED AS UNDERPAID.
AND MOVING THEM TO JOB GRADE TWO WILL ALIGN THEM WITH THE DATA THAT WE RECEIVED.
SO SOMETIMES IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT MOVING A WHOLE SCALE, IT JUST DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS ONE OUTLIER IN THERE.
THEY'RE AN OUTLIER THAT WE HAVE TO FIX AND THE DATA SUPPORTS THAT AFTER WE ADJUST THE SCALES.
THEY WILL BE LESS, THEY WILL MM-HMM
LESS THAN WHAT THAT DATA BY ABOUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CORRECT BY ABOUT TO THE MIDPOINT BY ABOUT THREE GRAND.
BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING TO GO ALL THE WAY THERE WITH JOB GRADE TWO, BUT THAT, THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY'LL BE SHORT TO THE MIDPOINT.
SO THOSE, THE DATA STILL SAYS WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN JUST THAT GROUP.
WE HAVE A GREAT COUNTY TO WORK IN.
WE HAVE PEOPLE TRUST A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME TO WORK HERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE THEIR SALARIES.
I'M JUST TRYING TO TRUST THE DATA.
MAYBE WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. MY MY MY ONLY OR INTERPRETING THE DATA DIFFERENTLY, MY ONLY INPUT IS, IS AGAIN, WHAT I'VE SAID PREVIOUSLY, LET'S NOT GET FOCUSED SOLELY ON INCOME BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER THINGS.
THERE'S RETIREMENT, THERE'S INSURANCE, THERE'S WHERE YOU WORK THAT THAT'S ALL CALCULATED IN IT.
AND JUDGE, I I JUDGE I TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT, BUT I THINK THAT THE, THE, THE GROUP WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE, OUR CLERKS, THAT BENEFITS THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT DOESN'T PAY THEIR MONTHLY BILLS.
AND THAT'S WHERE, IF WE ARE LOOKING AT GIVING THEM JUST WHATEVER THAT PERCENTAGE MAY BE THAT COULD TAKE THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO MAKE THEIR MONTHLY COMMITMENTS TO HAVING TO LEAVE OUR, OUR GREAT COUNTY THAT WE, WE ALL AGREE IS A GREAT PLACE TO WORK, BUT THEY JUST CAN'T MAKE ENDS MEET.
WELL WE, WE, THAT'S NOT JUST BEGINNING CLERKS.
I MEAN, WE COULD SAY THAT ABOUT ANY, ANYBODY THAT WORKS FOR THE COUNTY WELL, OKAY.
BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE, ARE, WE
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HAVE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN VETTED BY THE, THE HR DEPARTMENT AND THEY ARE IN LINE WITH OTHER SIMILAR COUNTIES AND OTHER SIMILAR RESPONSIBILITIES.AND THEN TO KEEP IT MUDDY, ARE WE GOING TO GET SOME SORT OF MONTHLY COSTS FOR THE, FOR THIS DISTRICT COURT THAT WE COULD AT LEAST CONSIDER? WHAT WOULD IT, WHAT IT WOULD BE IF WE WENT FROM 11 MONTHS TO 10 MONTHS TO NINE MONTHS AND IT SEEMED ABOUT 125 GRAND A MONTH.
THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE TO, BASED, BASED ON THE NUMBERS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE JUST ADDED ANOTHER CLERK.
SO IT'S, IT KIND OF, SO IT'S TWO 50 OR MORE FOR THE TWO MONTHS.
I'M TRYING TO SHAVE OFF WITH THE JUDGE'S SECRET MONEY.
ARE YOU TRYING, AND, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, MY INTENTION WAS TO DRIVE DOWN THE TAX RATE ONCE ALL THE DUST SETTLED.
I WAS GONNA PULL OUT THE, THE TWO 50 AND GO.
ALL RIGHT, NOW WE CAN KNOCK ANOTHER POINT OFF THE TAX RATE.
UH, COMMISSIONER GUANO, ARE YOU, UH, WHAT YOU JUST SAID TO START THE DISTRICT COURT IN JANUARY, WOULD THAT BE ALL OF THE, UH, ACCOMPANYING OFFICE CLERKS AS WELL? I MEAN, 'CAUSE LIKE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAD PROSECUTORS COMING ON THOSE, WE, SO WE DELAY THE START OF ALL OF THE POSITIONS.
SO WHEN WE HAVE THE COURT FUNDED AT 11 MONTHS, WE'RE STILL FUNDING EVERYBODY FOR THE FULL 12 MONTHS UNLESS THEY'RE A COURT PERSONNEL.
IS THAT WHAT THIS BUDGET HAS? I CAN DOUBLE CHECK.
SO MY, MY MEMORY, SO IT'S GONNA BE MORE MONEY, COULD BE MORE.
I, AND, AND, AND THERE MAY BE SOME SPECIALIZED POSITIONS THAT WE WANT TO BRING ON BOARD THE MONTH BEFORE BECAUSE OF TRAINING AND, AND WHATNOT.
SO THE COURT CAN BE OPERATIONAL AT THE TIME AND, AND WE WOULD OF COURSE HAVE TO WORK WITH, WITH KEN ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T PUT HER IN A POSITION.
BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO FUND POSITIONS UNTIL WE ABSOLUTELY NEEDED TO.
I WOULDN'T WANNA FUND THEM FOR THE WHOLE YEAR WHEN THE COURT'S NOT OPERATIONAL UNTIL JANUARY.
THE LAST I HAD HEARD WAS THE 5 0 3, THE, THE GOVERNOR WOULD SIGN IT WOULD START DECEMBER 1ST.
HAS THAT CHANGED OVER THE WEEKEND THERE? THERE'S NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON AND I'M GONNA PUSH IT TO JANUARY IF I CAN.
I'M GONNA WORK ON THAT FOR SURE.
I I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO STAND IT UP UNTIL JANUARY IF WE HAPPEN TO GET IT ALL THROUGH THIS SESSION.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON THAT WE NEED TO STAND IT UP IN DECEMBER.
SO FOR US, THAT WOULD HELP WITH THIS BUDGET TREMENDOUSLY.
THAT WOULD RE REMIND ME MY MEMORY, MELISSA.
UH, WE FUNDED 11 MONTHS FOR THE NEW COURT, THE 503RD, BUT I DON'T THINK WE, I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT.
I THINK WE FUNDED A FULL YEAR FOR THE SUPPORT STAFF WITH THE DA, THE PAYROLL.
I JUST MESSAGED THE PAYROLL COORDINATOR AND SHE SAID THAT SHE HAS THEM IN THE BUDGET FOR 12 MONTHS.
KEN, DO YOU WANT TO ENLIGHTEN US ON WHAT YOU WOULD NEED TO START OUT WITH AND, UH, KEN PEPPER, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ABOUT THIS ALREADY, UM, BUT I DON'T FORESEE IF Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL ARE GONNA START THE ACTUAL FUNCTION OF THE COURT IN JANUARY, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON THAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE COULDN'T WAIT UNTIL JANUARY OR TWO WEEKS BEFORE.
THERE'S NOT, I MEAN, WE, WE TYPICALLY, UH, DO THAT TRAINING ON THE JOB.
UM, SO I'M NOT THAT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
WHAT I WOULD MENTION, AND THE REASON THAT I WANTED TO COME UP HERE IS I DO THINK THAT YOU NEED TO PAY THE JUDGE, UM, AHEAD OF TIME.
HE'S GOTTA, HE'S GOTTA HIRE HIS STAFF, HIS HIS OR HER STAFF.
UM, SO I THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT THAT POSITION IN THE BUDGET EARLY, UM, BECAUSE THAT IS A COUNTY, UH, FUNDED, WELL, NO, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S A DISTRICT COURT.
SO IT'S A SMALL PORTION WOULD BE NEEDED TO BE FUNDED.
BUT I DO THINK THAT YOU NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE JUDGE GOING.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT HIS POSITION IS REGARDING HIS STAFF BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO GET UP AND GOING.
BUT FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S PERSPECTIVE, I'VE JUST BEEN SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT IT.
IF Y'ALL WANTED TO GET US STARTED TWO WEEKS EARLY, JUST 'CAUSE WE WILL GO AHEAD AND HIRE THOSE POSITIONS TO START ON WHATEVER EFFECTIVE DATE, BUT WE WOULDN'T NEED TO PAY 'EM.
AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UH, THE $206,000 NUMBER, I MEAN 208, 5 50 NUMBER IS WRONG.
UM, AS FAR AS THE BUDGET INCREASE BECAUSE THERE ARE INCREASES ALREADY ABSORBED INTO THE BUDGET THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THIS INCREASE.
SO WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GO BACK AND, AND RE-LOOK AT IT.
THERE'S OVER $60,000 WORTH OF INCREASES THAT WE ALREADY TOOK IN BEFORE THIS.
SO THIS NUMBER WILL COME DOWN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT WILL COME DOWN, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE $200,000.
UM, I I JUST DOUBLE CHECKED THE MATH TODAY AND THERE'S JUST, THERE'S SOME OF THE POSITIONS WE'RE ALREADY ABSORBED.
AND SO I CAN GET WITH THE AUDITOR, UM, THIS AFTERNOON AND JUST POINT OUT THOSE, UM, ON A PHONE CALL AND THEN WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE MATH IS CLEANED UP.
UH, AND GOOD AS FAR AS WHAT I'M
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SEEING, BECAUSE I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I'M SEEING SOME OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR JUST SHOWING UP AND BEING COUNTED AGAIN.SO DO WE WANT TO PUSH THIS THEN? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CORRECT NUMBER AT 5.7 AND WHERE THAT IMPACT TAKES CLERKS, PUTTING THEM TO JOB GRADE TWO.
I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE BOTH NUMBERS ACCURATELY BEFORE I MAKE A VOTE.
SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT WAY WE COULD REALLY TRUST THE DATA, CAN'T WE, BOBBY? THE DATA IS THE DATA.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, MAN.
THAT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE SAYING DATA NEVER LIES, BUT IT CAN BE TORTURED TO ADMITTING TO THINGS THAT IT DID NOT COMMIT.
UH, SO THAT, THAT ESSENTIALLY TAKES CARE OF THE FIRST THREE LINE ITEMS FOR US.
AND, AND THEN THE ONE THING I DO WANNA REMIND THE COURT, WAIT.
UM, IS THAT, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THAT WE COULD UNMAKE.
UM, I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT IN, IN, INTO THE WORLD.
UM, WE, WE CANNOT MAKE EVERYTHING, WE HAVE NOT APPROVED A BUDGET.
SO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE, WHEN THE, WHEN THE SMOKE CLEARS AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO HIT CERTAIN TAX RATES, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT REVENUE CONTROLS, THERE MIGHT BE A POSITION OR TWO OR SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ADDED THAT WE COULD END UP TAKING AWAY BEFORE WE GET TO THE FINAL DRAFT.
I JUST WANTED TO, I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE IT.
UM, IF YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE ALMOST DONE WITH MY LIST.
UM, SO I DON'T HAVE A LIST THAT I'M THINKING, HEY, CUT THIS, CUT THIS, CUT THIS.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE HAVE MADE DECISIONS THAT, THAT NOW THAT THE SMOKE IS CLEARING AND EVERYTHING'S LAYING DOWN, THAT WE COULD DECIDE, HEY, WE, WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT.
AND EVEN THOUGH WE THOUGHT WE DID.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ON YOUR SEVEN AND EIGHT, THE DISTRICT CLERK.
UM, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE'VE JUST HAD AND POSSIBLY THE TIMING OF THAT, THAT THOSE TWO NUMBERS COULD PROBABLY BE ALTERED OR MODIFIED A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.
WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON IT, BUT YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO SEE, ARE WE, DID WE DECIDE THAT WE WANTED TO SEE, UM, THE COURT ONLY FUNDED FOR, WE DIDN'T HAVE NINE MONTHS ON THE NEXT BUDGET? OR WHAT IS THE DECISION THAT WE DECIDED TO DO WITH THOSE MEETING? WELL, SO WE REALLY, I I WE DIDN'T MAKE A DECISION.
WE DIDN'T YEAH, BUT WHAT DO WE WANTED TO RAISE? THAT HOUSE HAS IT STARTING IN DECEMBER.
I, WHICH WHICH GIVES US AN ADDITIONAL MONTH.
SO, SO COULD WE JUST FUND EVERY POSITION TO DECEMBER? I MEAN, WOULD THE COURT BE COMFORTABLE STARTING WITH THAT? I MEAN, WE ONLY HAVE TO STAND UP THE JUDGE IN DECEMBER.
I MEAN, I'M GONNA CLAR I'LL CLARIFY THAT BY THURSDAY.
AND THEY WEREN'T OPEN THIS MORNING YET, BUT I'LL CLARIFY THAT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'LL BE FINE.
THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US TIME TO STAFF.
I I I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, AGAIN, BOTH OF THOSE NUMBERS, UH, JUST STANDING UP THE JUDGE IN DECEMBER AND THEN STANDING UP THE JUDGE IN COURT IN DECEMBER.
AND THIS, I'M ALL ABOUT PHASING EVERYTHING.
I MEAN, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE WHOLE POINT OF EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS PHASING.
AND I, I WANNA SEE THE NUMBERS TOO, WHERE WE, WHERE WE ONLY ARE PAYING FOR MAYBE THE JUDGE IN DECEMBER AND EVERYBODY ELSE STARTING AFTER THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS.
BECAUSE THAT AFFECTS EVERY SINGLE NUMBER WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HALF.
SO HERE, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME ANGER THE JUDGES REAL QUICK.
'CAUSE I KNOW SOME OF 'EM ARE LISTENING AND THEN WE COULD JUST NOT HIRE A COUNTY JUDGE AND JUST NOT FUND THAT COURT AT ALL.
YOU DID NOT AREN'T, AREN'T YOU THE COUNTY JUDGE? UH, WELL,
FIRE COMMISSIONER LTI, DO YOU WANT KEEP ON YOUR SIDE AND THEN MOVE TO ME? NO, LET, LET'S, LET'S DO THE PING PONG MATCH.
WE'LL WE'LL GO OVER TO COMMISSIONER
SO I'LL START WITH, UM, THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS, UM, EXCUSE ME.
WE'LL GO ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR IN A MOMENT.
UM, THE, THE CHAIRS, UH, I DID TRY TO GET, UM, A, A QUOTE FROM OUR JUDGES, UM, AT THE NEW COURTHOUSE.
AND THEIR CHAIRS ALSO WERE BRAND NEW NINE YEARS AGO WHEN THEY CAME IN.
AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH, UM, LISA AND ELENA TO SEE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT.
I, BASED ON THE GENTLEMAN THAT, UM, THAT CAME TO SHARE WITH US AND HAD A COUPLE OF CHAIRS THAT WE ALL TRIED AND NONE OF US REALLY LIKED, THOSE WERE RANGING ANYWHERE FROM 600 TO I BELIEVE $800 EACH IS WHAT, UM, IS WHAT I THINK HE, HE SAID.
UM, I, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE IF WE JUST DECIDE AT THIS POINT, AND WE'LL TRY TO GET THIS BEFORE THURSDAY.
I THINK WE CAN, TO FIGURE OUT AT LEAST A THOUSAND A PER A THOUSAND A PERSON ON HERE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA, HOPEFULLY IF WE GET THE SAME QUALITY, THEY'RE GONNA LAST FOR NINE TO 10 TO 12 YEARS JUST AS THESE HAVE
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IN THE ONES IN, IN THE COURTROOM WITH OUR JUDGES RIGHT NOW.THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A CHAIR.
WELL, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THEY THINK IT IS.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK THESE CHAIRS ARE GONNA BE WAY MORE THAN THAT, BUT I JUST HAVE A YEAH, I'VE NOT BOUGHT CHAIRS.
I, I AM ENVISIONING WELL, EXECUTIVE CHAIRS LIKE THIS STYLE.
IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WANTING AND WELL, I WAS GOING ON THE LOW END GOING I KNOW, I'M THINKING THEY'RE TRYING, THEY'RE GONNA BE CLOSER TO $2,000 EACH.
THAT THAT ALSO WAS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A CHAIR.
WELL, WE CAN PUT WAITING ON ESTIMATE AGAIN.
I WILL TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT THURSDAY.
AND WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT HAVING THAT UPHOLSTERY COMPANY LOOK AT JUST FILLING STUFF, THEMING THESE MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, AND SEEING IF THAT IS A, A BETTER ROUTE TO GO TO.
I WILL TAKE THAT ON TO CALL THE RE THE, THE, THE REUPHOLSTERY.
'CAUSE SHE'S, THEY'VE DONE SOME WORK FOR ME PERSONALLY, SO I SEE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA PUT WAITING ON ESTIMATE PLEASE.
SO THEN THE NEXT ONE THAT, UM, WAS NOT ON HERE AND I JUST THINK WE DIDN'T GET IT ON, BUT, UM, I WANTED TO BRING IT BACK UP BECAUSE, UM, THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, UM, PRESENTED TO US, UM, LAST WEEK WHEN HE WAS TALKING THAT HE WAS BEING, UM, HE HAD, HE HAD REDUCED HIS BUDGET BY, UM, 43,000 OR SOMETHING FOR THE SOFTWARE AND HE WANTED TO ALSO HAVE AN INCREASE WITH HIS STAFF AND IT, THAT WAS GOING TO BE A TOTAL OF 13,000 TIMES THREE OF 'EM, WHICH WAS 39,000.
SO HE BROUGHT US BACK, I THINK 50 SOMETHING THOUSAND AND IS WANTING TO PUT BACK 39,000 IN FOR HIS STAFF.
SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE OVERLOOKED THE REQUESTS THAT HE MADE OR WE JUST DIDN'T EVEN TAKE A VOTE ON IT.
DO WE KNOW WHERE HIS STAFF IS GOING WITH THE NEW POTENTIAL FOUR OR 5.7% ADJUSTMENT? COMMISSIONER, STACY, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA? WELL, UH, ACCORDING TO THIS, UH, HE'S ASKING FOR 10%, 10% AND 11%.
UM, AND NOW I'M LOOKING AT AN OLD SHEET.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE IN LIEU OF, UH, AND HE'S ASKING FOR IT IN LIEU OF ANY SORT OF MERIT INCREASE.
AND SO, UH, WE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'D BE MEETING HIM HALFWAY PRETTY MUCH IF WE DID A 4%.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S WHY HE CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER $13,000 INCREASE BECAUSE IF WE DO, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT 15 THAT HE'S ASKING FOR, AGAIN, I'M USING A VERY OLD SHEET FROM LIKE THE VERY, VERY FIRST DRAFT OF THE BUDGET.
UM, I HAVE NO ISSUE CLARIFYING, UH, HIS FULL REQUEST AND DOING THE MATH ON IT, BUT IT IS, UM, DOING LAUREN'S FAVORITE THING.
IT IS DOING JOB GRADE SHIFTING.
IT'S SHIFTING A SUPERVISOR FROM 13 TO 16, AN ASSISTANT COORDINATOR FROM 12 TO 13, AND A SENIOR CLERK FROM 11 TO 12.
NOW, WE HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY MEMORIALIZED MY JOB GRADES THAT I HAVE THROWN AROUND.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, WE BASICALLY GOT RID OF EIGHT JOB GRADES.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU CAN KIND OF KNOW JOB GRADE NINE IS JOB GRADE ONE.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF DO A LITTLE BIT OF MATH WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THE SCALES OF THE JOB GRADES.
WE JUST SIMPLIFIED ONES WE DON'T USE.
UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU LOOKED AT OUR SCALE, YOU WOULD BE GOING FROM LIKE A, A, A 12, A, A FOUR TO A SIX, THOSE, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
SO WE, WE COULD, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT.
UM, BUT HE SAID THE NUMBER 13,000, UM, THIS IS SHOWING AT ALMOST 17,000 AND I'M DOING REALLY BAD EARLY, EARLY MORNING MATH.
SO I'M ASSUMING HE'S TAKING IN ACCOUNT SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE'RE FUNDING.
THE TOTAL FOR HIS REQUEST IS $16,020.
YEAH, THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS WHAT, UH, MELISSA FOUND IN HIS ORIGINAL REQUEST TO THE COUNTY JUDGE AT BUDGET TIME.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE BASING THE 16,000 ON.
AND SO SOME OF IT, SOME, SOME OF IT IS GOING TO BE, UM, ACCOUNTED FOR BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A FOUR AND THIS IS A 10 AND HE'S ASKING FOR IT IN LIEU OF A MERIT INCREASE.
SO HE'S SAYING CHANGE THE JOB GRADES INSTEAD OF THAT.
BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A 5.7% JOB GRADE OR A 4% JOB GRADE, EVEN MOVING THE JOB GRADES WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THAT SALARY INCREASE AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAP THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT WITH BOTH SCENARIOS.
SO I, I THINK THAT, THAT BASED UPON THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER MACKLEY, SO IT MAY ALREADY BE COVERED.
WELL, SOME OF IT, YEAH, SOME OF IT, WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ELECTIONS REQUEST AS BEING NOT DONE, BEING DONE AT 4% AND DOING DONE AT 5.7%.
SO WE NEED THREE SETS OF NUMBERS ON HIS REQUEST FOR THIS NEXT YES.
BEFORE WE MEET AGAIN ON THURSDAY WHEN WE MEET AGAIN ON THURSDAY.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ADD IT TO THE SHEET AND THAT WAY WE CAN AT LEAST,
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UM, LOOK AT IT AND MAKE A DECISION IN THAT RESPECT.I JUST, UH, WANTED TO REMIND THE COURT THAT IN THE FIRST DRAFT, THE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR AND ELECTIONS SALARY IS ADJUSTED.
SO MAYBE THAT'S WHAT HE WAS DEDUCTING FROM HIS ORIGINAL REQUEST ON.
YEAH, BECAUSE ONE OF THIS IS HIS, HIS, YEAH.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL DIVE INTO THE REQUEST 'CAUSE YOU ARE CORRECT.
WE HAVEN'T DOVE INTO THAT AT ALL.
IT'LL BE ADDED TO THE, TO THE PILE.
UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM FOR ME ANYWAY, IS OUR LEGAL SERVICES TO DISCUSS THAT.
WE, WE, WE WILL TAKE THAT OUT.
WE, YEAH, WE OWE IT IT TO THE PEOPLE.
UM, IS THAT ALL YOU HAD, COMMISSIONER ANA, COMMISSIONER NEY? YEAH.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY.
I'M GONNA TAKE THIS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION SHORTLY.
SO, UM, WE DO NEED TO DISCUSS IT BIG BECAUSE IT'S A BIG NUMBER.
ONE OTHER THING I WANNA BRING UP, AND THAT'S, UM, THE STIPEND.
UM, I ASKED TAMMY TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND FIND OUT HOW THIS ALL STARTED.
AND IT STARTED BECAUSE OF, AS I UNDERSTOOD YOUR EMAIL KAMI, UM, TO HELP PROVIDE A SUPPLEMENT FOR MEDICARE EXHIBIT OR FUND D PREMIUMS. AND WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT FUND D PREMIUMS, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW A LOT EXCEPT THAT I GET IT, UM, IS IT'S A NUMBER THAT VARIES SIGNIFICANTLY DEPENDING UPON WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOUR HEALTH IS AND WHAT DRUGS YOU TAKE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY, YOU CAN'T PIN DOWN A NUMBER IN SAYING THIS IS WHAT PART D IS.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IT THAT WHAT IS WHAT IT WAS STARTED FOR.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT LAST YEAR, JUDGE, THE COURT DECIDED, OR TWO YEARS AGO MAYBE IT WAS THE COURT DECIDED TO SAY, ANYBODY WHO ISN'T GETTING IT WON'T GET IT.
SO THAT, SO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IS FROZEN.
THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT WAS, UM, $150 WHEN IT WAS DONE BACK IN 2008.
IS THAT CORRECT, CAMMY? I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON WHY IT WAS INCREASED, BUT AT SOME POINT ALONG THE ROAD IT WAS INCREASED AND IT WAS DECREASED AND I WOULD PROPOSE, UM, IN FACT, WE'RE MAKING MOTIONS TODAY, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT, UM, THE STIPEND AMOUNT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING IT AS OF TODAY WOULD BE $150, WHAT IT WAS PUT AT ORIGINALLY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTE TO FREEZE THE STIPEND, BOTH INCREASE AND DECREASE AT, AT $150.
AND JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW AT 94 PEOPLE, THAT'S, UM, 59 9, WELL, THE NUMBER SAID 94, SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
UM, $56,400 WOULD BE THE BUDGET IMPACT ON THAT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SECOND THAT MOTION SO WE CAN, OKAY.
CAN WE DISCUSS FOR JUST A SECOND NOW? YES, YES, YES.
UM, OUR CURRENT POLICY, CAMMY JUST SAYS THE STIPEND IS SET BY COURT THEN.
ISN'T THAT WHAT WE CHANGED IT TO? IS IT THEIR GRANDFATHER BUT THEN THE STIPEND SET BY COURT? CORRECT.
WHEN, WHEN, WHEN DID WE CHANGE THAT, JOHN? IT WAS, IT WAS LAST SEPTEMBER OR AUGUST, OR, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT VOTE, BUT IT WAS A YEAR AGO THAT, THAT WE CHANGED THAT.
UM, COMMISSIONER LICHTY, I'M JUST ASKING JUST FOR CLARITY, ARE YOU WANTING US TO GO TO THAT POLICY AND MAKE IT 150 AGAIN, OR ARE YOU GOOD WITH JUST SAYING 150 AND THEN TRY TO HAVE THE COURT JUST LEAVE IT ALONE? WELL, ALL I'M DEALING WITH IS THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, SO NO, NO, I, NO, I GET YOU.
I'M, I'M JUST ASKING IS, IS, MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
SO, SO I'M, I'M ASKING IS THERE A, A SECONDARY POLICY DECISION THAT YOU ENVISION WITH THIS MOTION SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT 150, PUT IT IN A POLICY AND LEAVE IT AND JUST LEAVE IT SITTING THERE? OR ARE YOU STILL GONNA LEAVE IT CONTINGENT UPON THE COURT? BECAUSE YOU SAID 150 AND LEAVE IT? SO I'M ASKING, ARE YOU WANTING THAT TO BE A POLICY DECISION? OKAY.
OR ARE YOU WANTING THAT TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE JUST ASKING THE COURT NOT TO GO BACK? OKAY.
I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION BETTER NOW.
'CAUSE I DID SAY AND JUST LEAVE IT.
UM, BUT TO BE AS PRECISE AS POSSIBLE TO YOUR QUESTION, I'M TALKING ABOUT A DECISION FOR THIS BUDGET ONLY, WHICH WOULD MEAN
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ONLY WE'RE GONNA GO TO 150 A MONTH FOR THE STIPEND RECIPIENTS.WE, I'M NOT SUGGESTING A POLICY CHANGE.
SO THE LANGUAGE WOULD CONTINUE AS IT IS TO SAY SUBJECT TO COURT'S DISCRETION IN THE FUTURE.
AND, UM, BUT I PROBABLY REVEALED HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT.
ARE WE STILL DISCUSSING A COLA ON, ON WELL, THAT'S A SECONDARY DISCUSSION, BUT YEAH, I, WELL, IT, IT, IT, IT HELPS ME MAKE A DECISION ON THE 150.
I THOUGHT WE PRETTY MUCH DECIDED ON THAT.
WAS I WRONG? I THOUGHT WE DECIDED, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE MADE A DECISION.
WELL, WE HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THE COURT WAS IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE IT STILL STAYED BELOW THE 10% OF ELECTED RATE.
I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER THAT WE SET, IF WE'RE GONNA SET IT AT 150, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT BASED ON THE COLA, UM, BEING WHERE WE SET IT WOULD BE THAT WE JUST SET IT AND, AND WE CREATE A POLICY THAT LEAVES IT THERE AND THAT THIS COURT DOESN'T TRY TO DIVE BACK INTO IT AND WE GO ROUND AND ROUND AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND THE NEXT YEAR AND THE NEXT JUST LEAVE GOING.
WELL, WELL, THE, THE ONLY THING ABOUT THE POLICY IS WE SET THE POLICY.
SO IT, IT DOESN'T PREVENT US FROM GOING BACK.
AND THEN, BUT, BUT IT DOES, DOES SEND A MESSAGE THAT IT DOES THAT, THAT THIS COURT WANTS TO KEEP IT AT 150.
IT SENDS A MESSAGE FOR THIS COURT AS LONG AS WE'RE TOGETHER.
UH, CAMMY, WHERE ARE WE AT RIGHT NOW? BUT OUR INTENTIONS WERE TO GO FROM THREE TO TWO, TWO TO ONE, ONE TO ZERO.
WHERE, WHERE ARE WE AT, RIGHT? AS FAR AS COLA OPTIONS? NO, NO, NO.
WHAT ARE WE GIVING MONTHLY NOW? 200 NOW.
SO THIS WOULD BE REDUCING IT TO ONE 50 AND THEN SAYING IT'S OUR INTENTIONS, AND THIS IS NOT YOUR MOTION, BUT READING INTO IT, IT'S OUR INTENTIONS TO NOT REDUCE IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
AND, AND AGAIN, THE REASON FOR THAT IS BASED ON WHAT WE, THE REASON IT WAS INSTITUTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND, UM, IT WAS 150 TO BEGIN WITH.
AGAIN, THE MEDICARE D IS ALL OVER THE BOARD, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD PICK OUT AN AVERAGE NUMBER, BUT WE'RE, BUT OKAY.
AND, AND I, I, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE, WHAT WE'RE, WHERE YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING COMMISSIONER LICK FEE, BUT THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE GRANDFATHERED IN AND I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN AT 300 AND THEN IT WENT TO 200, AND THEN LAST YEAR WE, WE DROPPED, WE DROPPED IT, OR THIS YEAR WE'RE PLANNING ON IT.
UM, THE CURRENT RECIPIENTS WERE GRANDFATHERED.
THERE WAS NOT A SPECIFIC RATE THAT THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED.
IT WENT FROM 300 TO 200 FOR FY 25.
AND THEN IN THE FIRST DRAFT FOR FY 26, IT'S DOWN TO 100.
BUT THE RECIPIENT LIST IS WHAT IS GRANDFATHERED.
NOT NECESSARILY THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, NOT THE DOLLAR THAT'S DETERMINED BY THE COURT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY A SECOND BY MYSELF.
IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.
WHAT ELSE, COMMISSIONER? UH, THE ONLY OTHER, UH,
[3. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE TO DISCUSS IS LEGAL SERVICES, AND WE'LL DO THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.WELL, I THINK THAT BRINGS US TO THE POINT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ROCKWALL COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS LISTED IN THIS AGENDA.
ITEM IN THE ORDER DEEMED APPROPRIATE AS AUTHORIZED BY CHAPTER 5 5, 1 OPEN MEETINGS, SUBCHAPTER D TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF ITS ATTORNEY.
UH, WE WILL BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION.
AND AT 10 0 2, WE'RE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[4. RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION ]
ALL RIGHT.AT 10 53, WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION.
PURSUANT TO OPEN MEETINGS ACT IN CHAPTER 5 5, 1 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.001.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION TO TAKE ANY ACTION NECESSARY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WILL TELL YOU NO ACTION TAKEN.
[5. COMMISSIONERS COURT REPORTS]
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH I HAVE LEARNED NOT TO SKIP ON THESE MEETINGS.I'M GONNA SEED MY TIME TO COMMISSIONER LICHTY.
I'LL JUST SAY I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A NICE LABOR DAY DAY OFF.
WELL, BOBBY, YOU DIDN'T SEE MUCH TIME, DID YOU? NO, I HAVE NOTHING, JUDGE.
I'LL, I'LL GET YOU ON SEPTEMBER 9TH THOUGH.
HEY, MELISSA, NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
HOW QUICK CAN WE GET THE REVISIONS OF ALL THE THINGS TODAY? WILL WE HAVE BY TOMORROW WHERE WE CAN DO A LITTLE WORK IN PREPARATION FOR THURSDAY? IT DEPENDS ON HOW QUICKLY I CAN GET WITH THE PAYROLL COORDINATOR AND HOW QUICKLY SHE CAN GET THOSE NUMBERS.
WELL, LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S A HOLD UP THERE, LET ME KNOW.