[Notice of Commissioners Court Consortium Meeting on September 17, 2025.]
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THE CONSORTIUM OPERATES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN OUR CORPORATION.
UH, IT'S MORE OF A FREE FLOWING, UH, ENVIRONMENT.
UH, AND IF YOU'LL REMEMBER LAST MONTH OR THE MONTH BEFORE, WE'VE CHANGED THE ROAD CONSORTIUM TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORTIUM.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'VE ASKED R-I-R-I-S-D TO BE HERE.
TODAY IS OUR FIRST ENTITY TO GO OVER INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THEM GO OVER, UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT SCHOOL INFRASTRUCTURE IS, WHAT THEY PROJECT COMING.
NEXT MONTH WILL BE THE SHERIFF, UH, TALKING ABOUT JAIL AND DISPATCH.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE OFF NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
THE CONSORTIUM'S NOT GONNA TAKE OFF, BUT JUST HAVING ENTITIES PRESENT, UH, BECAUSE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER GET A LITTLE SQUIRRELY.
AND THEN IN JANUARY, NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT'S GONNA DO A PRESENTATION.
AND THEN I HOPE TO JUST CONTINUE, CONTINUE FOLLOWING AFTER THAT WITH OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, BEFORE I HAVE DR.
VILLA REAL AND HIS TEAM COME UP, I THINK IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE.
LET'S JUST GO AROUND AND INTRODUCE OURSELVES.
I'M, I'M DANA MCL, AND I'M COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR PRECINCT TWO.
I'M BOBBY ALANA, UH, COUNTY COMMISSIONER, PRECINCT ONE.
UH, JAMES BRANCH ROYCE CITY COUNCIL AND CANDIDATE FOR COMMISSIONER PRECINCT.
MAYOR ROY, CITY, CITY, ROY CITY, MARY SMITH, ROCKWELL CITY MANAGER.
RICHARD ROCKWELL, CITY COUNCIL PLACE WORK.
MAYOR SCOTT DOTSON, MAYOR PRO TEM AND CITY COUNCIL.
HE MITCH OBY, EMS, CHIEF ROCKWELL COUNTY, EMS. MICHAEL KOVAC, CITY MANAGER, CITY OF FATE.
ANDREW GREENBERG, MAYOR OF FATE.
JOHN STACY KA, COMMISSIONER OF PRECINCT FOR FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER, PRECINCT MAYOR
UH, AND, AND MITCH FORGOT TO MENTION, ONE OF HIS DUTIES IS HE IS MY COUNCILMAN FOR THE CITY OF HEATH AND HAPPY TO BE SO.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO DR.
BILL REAL, WHO WAS HERE JUST A SECOND AGO.
SO, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO BE HERE, SIR? YEAH, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
AND WE CAN SCOOT THIS TO WHEREVER YOU WANT.
NEW THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF THE CONSORTIUM.
WHAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMITTEE.
I'VE BEEN ASKED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE, UM, ON OUR DEMOGRAPHIC REPORT, LOOKING AT GROWTH IN THE DISTRICT, WHAT WE ANTICIPATE CURRENTLY AND WHERE WE'LL BE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, SO IN FRONT OF YOU IS A REPORT OF OUR SECOND QUARTER REPORT THAT ENDS IN MAY OF 2025, THE MOST RECENT AND THE MOST ACCURATE REPORT.
LOOKING AT THE GROWTH IN ROCKWELL ISD.
SO PAGE NUMBER ONE, I'LL GO THROUGH THAT.
LOCAL ECONOMIC CONDITIONS, THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FROM JANUARY, 2020 TO 2025 IN ROCKWELL COUNTY.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN JUNE OF 2025, THERE WAS A 3.5% UNEMPLOYMENT RATE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT IN DFW OVERALL, WE HAD A 4.1% UNEMPLOYMENT RATE.
ON THE NEXT PAGE, IF YOU LOOK AT HOUSING ACTIVITY, THE DALLAS AREA, THE HOUSING START MARKETS, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE SECOND QUARTER 2025 STARTS ARE AT 45,229.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE WERE BACK IN 2019 AT 32,678 STARTS SINCE 2019.
THAT'S A CHANGE IN HOUSING, STARTS OF 38%.
NEXT PAGE, DFW, NEW HOME STARTS AND CLOSINGS, ANNUAL HOUSING STARTS AND ANNUAL CLOSINGS.
THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS ANNUAL CLOSINGS.
THE PURPLE LINE REPRESENTS ANNUAL HOUSING STARTS.
YOU CAN SEE CLOSINGS ARE AT 48,858 WITH 46,525 ANNUAL CLOSINGS.
NEXT PAGE, DFW HOUSING MARKET TRENDS.
IF YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE WE'VE BEEN FROM JANUARY THROUGH JUNE OF 2024 THROUGH JANUARY OF JUNE OF 2025.
UH, IN DECEMBER, THE AVERAGE MARKET HOME WAS $502,418.
NEXT PAGE, THE NEW HOME RANKING REPORT.
PRINCETON RANKS NUMBER ONE WITH 3,826 ANNUAL STARTS, 3,231.
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ANNUAL CLOSINGS.THEY HAVE AN INVENTORY OF 1,980 VACANT DEVELOPMENT LOT.
AND THEN FUTURE LOTS IS 8,421.
ROCKWELL ISD RANKS IN THE TOP 20 WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, NEW, NEW STARTS.
CLOSINGS INVENTORY, AND VACANT DEVELOPMENT LOTS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE LARGEST NUMBER THERE IS 12,384.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT NOW, WE YIELD ABOUT ONE STUDENT PER NEW ROOFTOP.
SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PREDICTION OF STUDENT GROWTH.
AS YOU LOOK AT THOSE FUTURE HOME SITES, HOW FAR DOES THAT PROJECT OUT IN ANY IDEA ON FUTURE? IS THAT LIKE NEXT? I THINK OUR PROJECTION, YEAH, IF YOU GO TO, IF YOU GO TO THE, OH, LET'S SEE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT 20, 34 TO 35.
DOES THAT INCLUDE APARTMENT NUMBERS? IT DOES INCLUDE HOUSING UNITS, YES, SIR.
THERE'S, AND THERE'S ANOTHER REPORT ON APARTMENTS.
WHAT, THERE'S ANOTHER REPORT ON APARTMENTS THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH.
SO DISTRICT NEW HOMES STARTS IN CLOSINGS.
YOU CAN SEE IN 2025 YEAR TO DATE, THE STARTS IN 2025 WERE 360 IN THE FIRST QUARTER, 328 FOR A TOTAL OF 688 ANNUAL STARTS.
AND THEN THE ANNUAL CLOSINGS ARE PRETTY CLOSE AT 2025, AT 673.
THAT'S DOWN FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.
DISTRICT HOUSING OVERVIEW BY ELEMENTARY ZONE, YOU CAN SEE THAT HAYES ELEMENTARY IS THE THIRD HIGHEST WITH HOUSING ACTIVITY.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE SHANNON ELEMENTARY IS THE SECOND HIGHEST WITH ANNUAL STARTS, QUARTER STARTS, HOMES UNDER CONSTRUCTION INVENTORY, AND THEN VACANT DEVELOPMENT LOT DEVELOPED LOTS.
AND THEN RIGHT NOW THE, UH, YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST ACTIVITY IN THE CATEGORY OF STEVENSON.
ANNUAL STARTS AT 250 QUARTER STARTS AT 75 ANNUAL CLOSINGS, 2 86 QUARTER CLOSING, 62 UNDER CONSTRUCTION, 110 HOMES AND INVENTORY 139.
SO FUTURE LOTS FOR STEVENSON IS 749 HOMES.
IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, AMY PARKS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 2,902, AND THEN YOU'RE OVER 3000.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POLAND DEVELOPED AREA, GARCIA HAS 1,491 FUTURE LOTS.
THE NEXT THING, UM, DOEL, UM, AS FAR AS THE SHANNON, UM, IS THAT GOING TO BE THE ELEMENTARY THAT WILL SUPPORT AT THIS POINT THE KLUTZ FARM EDITION? UH, I HAVE IT.
I HAVE AN ELEMENTARY ENROLLMENT UPDATE BY CAMPUS.
OH, AND THEN FUTURE YEARS, I'M GETTING, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND I, I THINK WE'LL ANSWER THAT.
THE DISTRICT HAS 69 ACTIVE BUILDING, SUB BUILDING SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITHIN ROCKWELL ISD.
THERE ARE 42 FUTURE SUBDIVISION IN VARIOUS STAGES OF PLANNING OF THESE GROUNDWORK IS UNDERWAY ON MORE THAN 3,200 LOTS WITHIN NINE SUBDIVISION.
AGAIN, WE YIELD ONE STUDENT PER ROOFTOP AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.
82 LOTS WERE DELIVERED IN THE SECOND QUARTER.
SO THE RED OUTLINE REPRESENTS THE GROUNDWORK UNDERWAY.
AND YOU CAN SEE OUR ENTIRE DISTRICT WHERE THEY ARE IN THE COMMUNITY ACT, ACTIVE LOTS.
YOU SEE THE GREEN THERE, FUTURE LOTS.
YOU SEE WHERE THE GROWTH WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.
AND THEN THE ELEMENTARY ATTENDANCE ZONES, THE TOP FIVE PERFORMING SUBDIVISIONS, MOST OF THEM ARE IN FATE.
WILLIAMSBURG HAS 184 CLOSINGS.
AVONDALE AND FATE HAS 105 MONTERA 102.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE TOP FIVE PERFORMING SUBDIVISIONS.
RESIDENTIAL ACTIVITY YOU CAN SEE IN THE GARCIA AREA.
THAT'S OUR LARGEST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THERE ARE 815 TOTAL LOTS, 498, FUTURE LOTS, 108 VACANT DEVELOPMENT LOTS.
YOU CAN SEE FALCON POINT ON THE NEXT PAGE.
UM, THAT'S NEAR AMY PARKS ATTENDANCE ZONE 298 TOTAL LOTS, 200, FUTURE LOTS.
UM, THAT CAMPUS IS OVER 700 STUDENTS.
UM, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO GROW IN THAT AREA.
SEVEN, VACANT DEVELOPMENT LOTS, 90 OCCUPIED HOMES.
AND THE SECOND PHASE IS UNDERWAY.
ON THE NEXT PAGE, IMPACTING POLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, HORIZON LAKES 1,800 TOTAL LOTS 1,800.
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THE H HUFFINES MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY LAUNCH.FIRST PHASE OF 900 ACRE DEVELOPMENT IN JUNE OR JULY OF TWO, UH, 2025.
THIS IS THE MULTIFAMILY OVERVIEW.
AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE SMALL BLUE FUTURE.
UM, THERE ARE NEARLY 3,500 FU FUTURE RENTED UNITS OR RENTAL UNITS IN VARIOUS STAGES, PLANNING ACROSS THE DISTRICT AND NINE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, INCLUDING APPROXIMATELY 155 SQUARE FEET RENTAL HOMES.
AND THOSE, A LOT OF THOSE ARE LOCATED, UM, YOU SEE IN THE NORTHEAST AREA.
NOW WE GET TO ENROLLMENTS BY GRADE LEVEL ON THE NEXT PAGE BY YEAR IN 25, 26, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE.
UM, I THINK THE THIRD TO THE LAST COLUMN THERE, WE ANTICIPATE SERVING ALMOST 19,400 STUDENTS THIS YEAR.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTION THERE.
WE'RE GROWING ABOUT 1% A YEAR, MOVING TO 2% OVER THE YEARS IN STUDENT TOTAL ENROLLMENT GROWTH.
AND THEN BY 20 34, 35, WE ANTICIPATE, BASED ON WHAT I'VE JUST EXPLAINED ON DEVELOPMENT FUTURE LOTS, ET CETERA.
IN, UH, 10 YEARS, WE'LL BE AT 23,519 STUDENTS CAMPUSES BY, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, LINDA LYON IN 25, 26.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE GROWTH NUMBERS THERE.
THE YELLOW REPRESENTS, UH, THE, THE HIGHEST ENROLLMENT CAMPUS IN OUR DISTRICT.
SO WE HAVE LINDA LYON, WE HAVE BILLY STEVENSON AND GARCIA AS THE LARGEST ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
AND AS THE YEARS PROGRESS AND WE PLUG IN THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, YOU CAN SEE THAT GARCIA IS GOING TO BE THE ONGOING LARGEST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH ENROLLMENT GROWTH NEXT YEAR.
WE ANTICIPATE OVER 900 STUDENTS IN THAT ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT CAPACITIES ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, WANNA MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY SOMETHING.
WE BUILD SCHOOLS TO SERVE THIS AMOUNT OF STUDENTS, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY.
WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY ACCOUNT FOR 21 STUDENTS IN ONE CLASSROOM PER THEIR INDIVIDUAL EDUCATION PLAN.
THEY, WE MIGHT HAVE FOUR STUDENTS IN A CLASSROOM DUE TO THEIR DISABILITIES AND MAKING SURE WE MEET THEIR NEEDS.
SO WE HAVE FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY AS WHERE AS WELL.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, YOU CAN SEE HOW OVERCROWDED THOSE CAMPUSES WILL BE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
SO WE GO TO THE 10 YEAR FORECAST ON SECONDARY SCHOOLS.
YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW THERE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
MOST RECENTLY, WE MOVED ALL OF OUR SIXTH GRADERS INTO THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS TO PROVIDE A BETTER ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE.
A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE COURSES THEY CAN TAKE WHEN YOU MOVE FROM ELEMENTARY INTO THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
THAT BEING SAID, UH, WE LOOK FOR OUR CAPACITY TO BE ABOUT 1,350 STUDENTS.
AND YOU CAN SEE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, LOOKING AT THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, THE NUMBERS YIELDING ONE STUDENT PER ROOFTOP, WHAT OUR ENROLLMENTS WILL BE AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
SO BIG CONCERNS ON ENROLLMENT GROWTH THERE.
AND THEN, UM, HIGH SCHOOLS, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE OR AT LEAST THE SOUTH SIDE, THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HAVE THE LARGEST ENROLLMENT GROWTH.
ALL OF THEM WILL GROW, BUT THE LARGEST GROWTH WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 30.
AND THEN THE LAST PAGE, YOU CAN SEE IN 2034 AND 35, WE ANTICIPATE SERVING ALMOST 24,000 STUDENTS.
AND JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE REPORT IN THE SECOND QUARTER, NEW HOME STARTS WITHIN ROCKWELL ISD, WE'RE UP 8.6%.
SECOND BULLET, THE DISTRICT HAS 69 ACTIVELY, UH, ACTIVE BUILDING, BUILDING SUBDIVISIONS WITH MORE THAN 2,500 LOTS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO BUILD ON.
AND THEN ROCKWELL IDS 42, FUTURE SUBDIVISIONS WITH NEARLY 1200, UH, 12,400 LOTS IN THE PLANNING STAGES.
GROUNDWORK IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY WITH APPROXIMATELY 3,200 LOTS IN NINE SUBDIVISIONS IN ROCKWELL.
ISD IS FORECASTING, UH, MORE THAN 20,000 STUDENTS IN 29 30, AND APPROXIMATELY 23,500 STUDENTS IN 2034 AND 35.
VIAL? UM, NO, NO SURPRISE TO ANYONE.
A LOT OF GROWTH COMING TO ROCKWALL COUNTY.
AND, AND ONE REASON I WANTED TO CHANGE THE ROAD CONSORTIUM TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORTIUM IS BECAUSE IT'S ALL CONNECTED.
I MEAN, WE, IF WE SOLVE ROADS, WE'VE
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NOT REALLY SOLVED INFRASTRUCTURE.WE WE HAVE TO SOLVE SCHOOLS, WE HAD TO SOLVE WATER, ROADS, POLICE, AMBULANCE, FIRE.
WE, WE, WE HAVE TO SOLVE ALL INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO ROADS.
I KNOW EVERYBODY GETS EMAILED THEIR, THEIR ROAD PACKET.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD WAY TO, TO START.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. POLLSTER? I SAW HIM HERE SOMEWHERE.
WE WILL, WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS WHILE HE IS NOT HERE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON HIM, I, I DO WANNA SAY IT'S THE, THE INTENTION, UH, IT'S MY INTENTION AND, AND I BELIEVE THE INTENTION OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO HAVE OUR, UH, ROAD LIST TO GO OUT FOR BOND BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'LL GO OUT FOR BOND, BUT WE WILL HAVE THE LIST AND, AND START DOING THE WORK.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE WAITING TO GET INFORMATION IN, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T EXCEED OBVIOUSLY OUR BONDING CAPACITY AND, UH, DON'T APPLY TOO MUCH UPWARD PRESSURE ON THE TAX RATE.
SO, UH, WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP, UH, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, ONCE WE GET PAST THE BUDGET SO WE CAN FINALIZE THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ON THE FIRST ISSUANCE OF THE TRIP 21 BOND.
SO, UH, THAT, THAT IS FORTHCOMING.
DOES ANY, HERE'S MR. POLLSTER, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON, ON THE ROAD PROJECTS? SO, YEAH, LET ME, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT YOU HAVE FIRST.
SO WHAT, WHAT I WASN'T ABLE TO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE WHEN Y'ALL DID YOUR WORKSHOP.
UH, BUT BRENDA WAS, DID A GREAT JOB.
YOU HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM BOTH THE COMMUNITIES AND THEN THE INPUT FROM THAT WORKSHOP THAT Y'ALL HAD.
AND THAT'S THE, UM, SHEET THAT SAYS PRIORITIES SUBMITTED.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE YOU HAVE IS YOUR ACTUAL 21 ROAD BOMB PROGRAM WITH A ORANGE COLUMN THAT SAYS FIRST ISSUANCE.
YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE FIRST ISSUANCE HAS ABOUT A $33 MILLION NU NUMBER THERE.
AND THE NUMBERS ON THE OTHER SHEET ARE ABOUT 46.
BUT THE REASON THAT IS, IS BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE TIME WE PUT TOGETHER THE WISHLIST AND, AND THE SECOND LIST, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES.
UH, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER LEAKY HAD A COUPLE OF CHANGES.
SO THEY, THE CHANGES ARE REFLECTED IN THE FIRST ISSUANCE TRIP LIST.
UH, AND WE'LL GO OVER, IF YOU WANNA GO OVER 'EM AD NAUSEUM, UH, PROJECT BY PROJECT.
SO THIS ONE, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE ONLY ONE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS IS A WORKING DOCUMENT.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT? WE'LL CHANGE THAT OBVIOUSLY.
NO, BUT AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE MOST, THE LATEST.
IT'S THE LATEST FROM THE LAST, YEAH, I THINK YOU AND BRENDA TALKED.
YEAH, IT'S THE LATEST ONE THAT I'VE SENT OUT THIS AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER.
I SENT IT OUT AND THEN REESE SENT OUT A REVISAL.
SO WHAT CHRISTINA'S GIVEN IS THE REVISE.
OH, WHAT YOU SENT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT C AFTERNOON.
WE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING INTO THE MICS IF WE'RE BROADCASTING.
'CAUSE I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME HEARING FROM WHAT I CAN TELL.
BRENDA, YOU NEED TO GET TO A, A MICROPHONE.
THIS IS THE, OH, YOU CAN HAVE MINE AND I'LL, I'LL GO SIT DOWN TODAY.
YEAH, LET, LET'S, LET'S JUST START.
SO, SO I'D KIND OF LIKE TO LET YOU TELL YOU WHAT YOU GOT FIRST AND THEN Y'ALL CAN HACK IT TO PIECES.
SO THE, THE SHEET YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT FIRST IS NOT THE ONE THAT SAYS FIRST ISSUANCE FROM THE TRIP.
YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE WORKING DOCUMENT WHERE THIS IS ALL THE DATA THAT WE GOT FROM THE COMMUNITIES AND FROM THE INPUT ONE.
BRENDA WAS HERE AT WORKSHOP AND THEN WE PUT NOTES IN WHAT IT IS Y'ALL ARE SAYING YOU WANT TO DO.
SO THE NOTES ARE WHERE YOU NEED TO BE LOOKING.
UH, JUDGE, IT'S THE OTHER DOCUMENT JUST IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING CALLED PRIORITY DATED 9 7 25.
THAT'S WAS THE NUMBER WHERE, THIS IS THE STUFF WE ALLALL SUBMITTED AS Y'ALL'S PRIORITIES.
AND THEN WORKING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS POST WORKSHOP.
THOSE OF US, THOSE THAT COMMUNICATED TO US.
'CAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY PRETTY MUCH KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
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WE MADE CHANGES BASED UPON WHAT WE WERE TOLD BY COURT MEMBERS THAT HAD COMMENTS.THAT'S WHAT THE PRIORITIZATION SHOWS.
IT TELLS YOU WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT WE THOUGHT OR WHAT YOU SAID AT THE TIME WE PUT THAT DOCUMENT TOGETHER.
NOW WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS AFTER WE GET ALL THIS ROPED AND SAUCED DOWN, WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE ONE DOCUMENT GOING FORWARD.
'CAUSE I'VE DONE BOND PROGRAMS IN DIFFERENT COUNTIES WHERE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE ISSUANCES AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP ONE DOCUMENT BEING YOUR CONTROLLING DOCUMENT.
AND THE DOCUMENT YOU SEE THAT SAYS FIRST ISSUANCE WILL ULTIMATELY BE THE CONTROLLING DOCUMENT.
'CAUSE IT'LL TELL THE AUDITOR WHERE WE'RE TAKING THE MONEY FOR THOSE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE PRIORITY LIST THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU NOW.
SO, UH, I'M HAVING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, 'CAUSE SOMEBODY IN THE FUTURE IS GONNA NEED TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT Y'ALL DID AND BE ABLE TO RECREATE IT.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO START RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, THE NOTES TELL US WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE TOLD BY THE COMMUNITIES.
AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S DO BEN PAY JUST 'CAUSE IT'S THE FIRST ONE.
THE UH, UM, ORIGINAL THOUGHT WAS WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING 1.75 MILLION AND WE HAD SOME MONEY IN THE BOND PROGRAM TO PARTICIPATE ON A 20% MATCH ON A FEDERAL PROJECT.
I THINK SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN THE CONCEPT ON HOW WE WANNA APPROACH IT.
SO THE ORIGINAL INTENT FROM WHAT WE GOT FROM THE WORKSHOP AND, AND THE FIRST ITERATION WAS TO BE ABLE TO PUT MONEY INTO, UH, INTERLOCAL WITH FATE FOR 3.8 MILLION AND SOME CHANGE.
BUT WE HAVEN'T ISSUED ANY OF YOUR PRECINCT DISCRETIONARY ACCOUNT FUNDS.
SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING ON YOUR FIRST ISSUANCE, YOU'LL SEE IN BEN PAYING, YOU'LL SEE 1.75 MILLION BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THAT'S IN BEN PAY.
SO ANYTHING YOU WANNA MAKE UP ON BEN, PAYING ABOVE THAT 1 7 5 HAS TO COME OUT OF A DISCRETIONARY ACCOUNT OR SOME OTHER THIRD THING.
SO THE 3.8 IS THE GOAL, UH, FROM THE PRIORITIES, BUT WHAT WE ONLY HAVE IN BEN PAYING IS 1 7 5.
SO IF 3.8 IS THE GOAL, THEN IN PRECINCT FOUR WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH COMMISSIONER STA ON HOW HE WANTS TO APPROACH THAT.
SO THE REASON WHY WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA DRAW YOU BACK TO THE FIRST ISSUANCE LINE IS BECAUSE THOSE ALL WILL HAVE AUDITOR NUMBERS.
AND THEN WHEN YOU SAY I WANNA MOVE FORWARD ON JODY DOKES ROAD, WHEN WE SUBMIT THE FUNDING MEMO TO LISA, IT'LL SHOW THOSE AUDITOR NUMBERS FOR THOSE LINE ITEMS. SO THAT'S WHY IT HAS TO HAVE TWO SHEETS.
THAT'S ALL I HAD TO DO IS A PREAMBLE AND THEN ALL THE SMART QUESTIONS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE ANSWERED BY BRENDA.
SO, SO CAN I, CAN I ADD, CAN I DUMB THIS THAT A LITTLE BIT AND ASK QUESTIONS? OKAY.
SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, AND MAYBE EVERYBODY ELSE, NO PROJECT CAN'T GET CLOSER TO A MIC.
YEAH, THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU OUT HERE.
SO I'M LOOKING AT THE ANTICIPATED FIRST ISSUANCE.
SO AM I CLEAR WITH ON THE SECOND PAGE, VERY BOTTOM TOTAL FOR EVERY PROJECT ON THIS PAGE, 664 MILLION, RIGHT? NO, THAT IS THE, ALL THE, WHAT'S THE LEVERAGING FOR ALL THE BOND PROGRAM IF FOR THE WHOLE 150, THE, THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COLOR THAT IS.
UH, I MEN ONLY HAVE FIVE COLORS.
IT'S THE 33.067 IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
YOUR FIRST ISSUANCE RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING LIKE BASED ON WHEN YOU TAKE THE 46.
OKAY, I AGAIN, SO I'M LOOKING AT, SO WHERE IT SAYS PROJECT TOTAL, SO AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS TOTALED UP AT THE BOTTOM EQUALS 664 MILLION IF WE GET THE LEVERAGING FROM OUR PARTNERS? CORRECT.
AND THEN THE COLUMN TRIP 21 COUNTY COMMITMENT 150 MILLION, THAT IS THE TRIP 21 MONEY.
AND THEN THE FIRST ISSUANCE IS A SUBSET 33 MILLION.
OH, 67 IS A SUBSET OF THAT ONE 50.
SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN TAKING BEN PAYNE? WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN CITY OF FATE NEEDS 10.3 MILLION DISCUSSION NEEDED FOR BALANCE OF FUNDING? THAT MEANS THEY'VE GOT A, THE CITY OF FATE HAS DEFINED 10.3 MILLION.
I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH LOOKING TOWARDS US TO DO THAT.
SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO BRING ANOTHER, SO BEN PAIN WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE.
'CAUSE WE, WE, IF WE GET INTO THE WEEDS, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE WEEDS ON 40 PROJECTS.
THIS ONE, IT'S NOT ON OR IS IT ON THE BUTTON? OH, I JUST MENTIONED,
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WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT, HOPEFULLY IT'S 14 AND A HALF, BUT IT COULD BE 14 AND A HALF TO 18 AND A HALF OR EVEN 19.SO, WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, I WAS JUST SAYING WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO BRING, EVEN IF WE GOT 10.3, WE'LL STILL HAVE TO BRING EIGHT FROM OUR, FROM OTHER SOURCES WHICH OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE.
NO, I'M JUST ASKING SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
SO IS THERE A LIMIT FOR THE FIRST ISSUANCE OF THE BOND? YOU CAN ONLY ISSUE X AMOUNT OR YOU COULD ISSUE THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OR YOU CAN, SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO IS ONCE WE GET A NUMBER FROM Y'ALL ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE THINK ARE VIABLE FIRST PROJECTS, BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED AN ISSUE ANYMORE THAN YOU NEED TO SPEND BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ACTUALLY HARD TO SPEND MONEY ON TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
SO YOU WANNA LIMIT IT TO ONLY WHAT YOU NEED.
WE'RE GONNA THEN COME BACK TO, UH, LISA AND MARTY SHU.
THEY'RE GONNA RUN THAT THROUGH YOUR CALCULATIONS AND THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK AND GIVE TO THE COURT SCENARIOS ON PLUS OR MINUS WHAT WE THINK THE NUMBER IS.
AND THEN THE COURT WILL MAKE THE DECISION ON WHAT SCENARIO THEY'LL PICK.
SO THEY'LL GIVE YOU FOUR SCENARIOS, UH, 20 MILLION, 40 MILLION, 60 MILLION, WHATEVER.
AND THEN THE COURT GOES, AH, WE CAN AFFORD THIS ONE.
AND THEN IF IT'S LESS THAN WHAT WE THINK IT IS, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND PAIR IT UP.
IF IT'S MATCHES, THEN WE'RE ALL GOOD.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS JUDGE YOU MENTIONED HAVING ANOTHER WORKSHOP.
YOU ASKED FOR ALL THE PRIORITIES FROM THE CITIES THE CITY SUBMITTED, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
WHAT IS THERE LEFT A WORKSHOP? SO, UH, OUR ABILITY TO BOND, WHICH IS, IS THE MISSING PIECE OF INFORMATION AND WHAT THAT DOES TO THE TAX RATE.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS A CART AND A HORSE SITUATION.
UH, THE BOND COUNCIL, UH, THE BOND CONSULTANT NEEDS TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE WANT TO GO BOND WITH.
SO WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM AN AMOUNT AND LET'S SAY IT'S 35 MILLION, THEN THEY GO OUT AND SEE WHAT THAT COST DOES, WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR, WHAT PEOPLE ARE BUYING BONDS FOR RIGHT NOW.
THEN WE CAN CALCULATE WHAT THAT DOES TO OUR, OUR INS RATE AND HOW MUCH UPWARD PRESSURE IT APPLIES.
THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
IF IT APPLIES TOO MUCH UPWARD PRESSURE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT NUMBER DOWN.
IF, IF, IF WE STILL HAVE SOME GAP, WE MAY TAKE THAT NUMBER UP.
SO IT TRULY IS A CART AND A HORSE.
YOU GOTTA GET A NUMBER SO YOU CAN GET THE BOND INFO.
THEN YOU GO BACK TO THE NUMBER AND AS JOHN WAS SAYING, IF IT MATCHES, THEN WE'VE HOOKED OUR HORSE UP TO OUR, TO OUR WAGON AND WE'RE OFF AND RUNNING.
SO, SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, WE'RE NO LONGER DISCUSSING PROJECTS.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE PRIORITY.
SO OUR PRIORITY, OUR PRIORITY IS YOUR PRIORITY, NOT YOUR PRIORITY.
SO I GOT IN TROUBLE LAST TIME I DID THIS.
THE COUNTY DOES NOT DELEGATE ITS FIDUCIARY AUTHORITY TO ANYBODY.
SO THE FINAL SAY IS WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
BUT IF THESE ARE THE CITY'S PRIORITIES, THEN WE'RE NO LONGER TALKING ABOUT PRIORITIES.
NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE FUND IT.
THAT, THAT, THAT IS THE WORKSHOP.
THAT IS THE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'VE MOVED PAST NOW THE DISCUSSION OF I THINK WE SHOULD FIX THIS ROAD NOW.
WE NEED, NOW THE DISCUSSION IS HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT? SO THERE'S ONE OTHER AS GOING TO ADD IS, IS THERE ARE ROADS ON THIS PRIORITY LIST THAT WEREN'T ON THE BOND PROGRAM THAT CAN'T BE DEALT WITH BY COMMISSIONER'S PRECINCT.
DISCRETIONARY IF THEY SO CHOOSE.
AND THE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE WORKSHOP AS WELL, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE EXCEEDING THEIR DISCRETIONARY FUNDS AND OTHERS THAT HAVEN'T USED ALL THEIR DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LACK OF MICROPHONE THERE.
WHERE ARE WE ON CRUDE SHAW? WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? THAT'S LOCKED AND AND WHAT, WHERE ARE WE THERE? COME ON.
UH, THAT ESSENTIALLY, UH, A LOT OF THAT IS COMING FROM THE SCHOOL, FROM ROY CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UH, AND THEN, UH, SOME OF IT IS COMING FROM THE COUNTY AND, AND WE, WE HAVE THAT MONEY THAT WAS TAKEN FROM AN OH EIGHT BOND ISSUANCE.
UH, NOW IF THAT COMES IN OVER BUDGET, THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SCHOOL AND HAVE A CONVERSATION.
BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW PORTION IS COMING FROM ROYCE CITY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT PORTION IS COMING FROM THE COUNTY.
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I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SUM TOTAL OF, OF THE FUNDING FOR THAT.SO HOW, HOW QUICK ARE WE MOVING ON THAT? UM, I DON'T MIRANDA HELP? NOPE.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE WAITING ON? OKAY, SO WE JUST GOT A PURCHASE AND SALES AGREEMENT FOR TWO PARCELS, ONE FOR HITON AND ONE FOR BOYD WICK.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE SIGNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
THEN WE'LL GO TO THE TITLE COMPANY FOR THOSE PARCELS.
WE GOT THE SIGNED DEDICATION DEED FROM WATERSCAPE TODAY.
SO THAT'S THE MEGA TAIL PROPERTY THAT USED TO BE THE PULLING PROPERTY.
WE GOT A POSSESSION AND USE AGREEMENT FOR, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES, UM, ON THERE THROUGH ROYCE CITY THAT LACEY'S BEEN WORKING AND YOS
UM, THEN WE'VE GOT NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT THAT'S WORKING ON AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR US.
IT'S BEEN THROUGH REVIEW OF OUR FOLKS AND IT'S BACK IN THEIR COURT FOR SIGNATURE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE PLANS ARE AVAILABLE AND WE'RE TARGETING A MARCH, 2026 LETTING, IF WE CAN GET ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY IN HAND.
UM, NO UTILITY COSTS ON THIS ONE AND THE UTILITIES ARE OUT THERE CURRENTLY MOVING OR HAVE BEEN MOVED.
HEY JOHN, UH, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TO EXPEDITE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AND UM, COMMISSIONER LICHTY HAD ASKED THE QUESTION, WELL, IF ON A LOCAL LEVEL WE'RE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE FUNDING TO POTENTIALLY EXPEDITE SOME OF THESE, WHAT ASSURANCE CAN WE HAVE AND WHAT DOES EXPEDITING THESE PROJECTS LOOK LIKE? UH, OKAY, THAT'S A LOADED QUESTION, BUT I'M GONNA TRY TO ANSWER IT.
UM, IF YOU MEAN BY EXPEDITE YOU MEAN THE COUNTY FUND IT AND TRY TO BUILD IT THEMSELVES? TXDOT ESSENTIALLY SAID THEY'RE NOT IN THAT GAME.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING THAT.
UH, THEY'LL LET YOU DO AN INTERSECTION BLOWOUT OR MAYBE A, A A A PERMIT, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.
IF YOU MEAN EXPEDITE IT BY GETTING THE PROJECT READY SO THEY CAN GET FUNDING.
THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE ISSUANCE IS ON THESE ON SYSTEM PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY NEGOTIATED WITH FIRMS ON A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE ABILITY TO THE COUNTY EXECUTE IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE.
AND SO A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE IN HERE.
AND FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE WHICH ONE'S? THE ONE THAT'S, UH, FUNDED AND WE'RE WORKING TO GET IT IN RIGHT NOW, 5 49.
SO WE JUST MET WITH TEX DOT 'CAUSE WE MEET TECH QUARTERLY WITH T DOT STAFF AND WE JUST MET WITH 'EM LAST MONDAY.
UM, AND THEY THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS I I, I THINK I'VE TOLD YOU ABOUT LEVEL THAT, BUT THEY THINK THEY'VE GOT SOME PROJECTS IN THE 26 YEAR WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PROJECTS AND THE 5 49 PROJECT DOLLAR AMOUNT FITS ONE OF THE SLOTS THEY'RE LOOKING TO FIND.
SO BY US GETTING THAT PROJECT READY, DOING THE ENVIRONMENTAL THE RIGHT OF WAY UTILITY RELOCATIONS AND IT GOT FUNDED BECAUSE OF THAT, NOW WE THINK WE'RE GONNA GET A SLOT IN SOME MONTH IN 26.
SO THE, I'VE ALWAYS SAID THE BEST WAY TO EXPEDITE A PROJECT IS BECAUSE EVEN IF THEY GIVE YOU THEM, WE'VE GOT THE MONEY IN 5 49, WE'VE HAD IT FOR A COUPLE YEARS, BUT WE HADN'T FINISHED THE RIDE UTILITY RELOCATIONS AND WE HADN'T GOTTEN A LOCATION IN THE LETTING.
SO ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE DONE ANYWAY.
SO I'M SAYING JUST START 'EM BECAUSE THAT'S THAT YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THE FUNDINGS ARE GONNA COME UP AND IF YOU GOT PROJECTS READY, YOU CAN GET 'EM FUNDED.
THANKS FOR THE DETAIL ON THAT, JOHN.
IT MAY BE A WHILE, BUT YET YOU SEE 'EM WORKING ON THE FRONTAGE THERE BY THE HIGHWAY.
SO WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR PART OF 5 48 TO T 76, BRENDA
UM, THERE IS A SEGMENT THAT GOES DOWN 5 48 ABOUT TO THE BRIDGE THAT THEY'RE GONNA RECONSTRUCT WITH THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 30 PROJECT.
SO THAT WILL BE DONE FIRST AND THEN THE PROJECT THAT TEGNA AND PERKINS IS WORKING ON FOR YOU THAT THEY'RE ABOUT TO CLEAR, IT WILL COME BACK LATER ON AND DO 5 48 DOWN CLOSE TO CRENSHAW.
AND ISN'T 5 48 1 OF THE ONES WE'RE GETTING MONEY FOR ENGINEERING? YES.
SO THE NEXT STEP ON 5 48 IS THE PSNE ONCE YOU'RE CLEARED.
AND SO THAT'S PART OF THIS FIRST ISSUANCE
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ASK IS TO ALL THESE CONTRACTS THAT ARE CLEARING LIKE FIVE 50 ONES CLEARED, THE NEXT STEP IS THE PSNE.SO THOSE ARE ALL PART OF THIS, UM, CONFAB, IT'S RIGHT NUMBER 26.
OH, I THOUGHT SHE WAS ONE SOUTH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT'S GOTTA BE HARDER QUESTIONS THAN THAT.
DOWN TO THE FUTURE OUTER LOOP.
YEAH, IT'S FROM DOWNTOWN DEPUTY CRENSHAW.
UM, JOHN, UM, OKAY, SO YOU'VE GOT TRIP 21 COUNTY COMMITMENTS HERE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT FIRST ISSUANCES, A LOT OF 'EM HAVE ZEROS OBVIOUSLY OR LESSER AMOUNTS.
HAVE YOU REACHED THE CONCLUSION ALREADY THAT WHAT YOU'VE GOT OUTLINED IN THE FIRST ISSUANCES ON THIS REPORT IS THE MAXIMUM WE CAN USE? NO.
SO THERE'S MORE ROOM AVAILABLE THERE, SO YES.
SO THIS, WHAT ALL WE DID WAS TAKE WHAT WE HEARD FROM Y'ALL, Y'ALL BEING THE CONSORTIUM, THE CITIES AND THE COURT, AND THIS PRIORITY SHEET THAT'S GOT ALL THE PROJECTS AND ALL THE NOTES.
WE TOOK THOSE AND THEN WHEN WE HEARD THAT THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT WE MADE NEEDED TO BE MADE, WE MADE 'EM ON THIS SHEET, BUT NOT THIS SHEET.
THE, THE THE PRIORITIZATION SHEET, BECAUSE THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL ASK.
THIS IS WHAT IT NETTED OUT TO BE IS THAT 33.
SO WHERE IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS YOU WANT TO DO AND IF YOU HEAR FROM YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CITIES OR FROM YOURSELVES THAT YOU, YOU SEE
UM, SO THAT LEADS ME IN MY NEXT TWO QUESTIONS WITH BOTH COME FROM THAT.
THERE WERE TWO ITEMS IN HERE WHICH, UM, MCCLENNAN CHISHOLM HAD IDENTIFIED AS THEIR TWO PRIORITIES.
UM, THE FIRST IS, UH, NUMBER THREE, UM, FM 5 49 FROM 2 76 TO 2 0 5 AND WHICH IS A ONE I THINK BRENDA YOU WERE SAYING WE MAY GET MOVED UP AND GET IT FUNDED MORE QUICKLY YET WE'VE GOT 6 MILLION IN TRIP 21 AND ZERO IN FIRST ISSUANCE.
DOES THAT MEAN WE DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED IT BECAUSE TDOT'S GONNA SPEND IT? YES.
THE SIX, THE 6 MILLION WAS SEED MONEY FOR CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS.
SO IF WE NEEDED TO USE THAT MONEY TO MOVE IT UP, WE HAD IT AVAILABLE.
BUT BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION WITH T STOCK, WE DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO SEED ANY CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS.
SO IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT A PRIORITY, IT JUST MEANS THAT WE'VE GOT IT FUNDED ELSEWHERE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD NEWS.
SECOND ONE ALSO IN MY PRECINCT AND ALSO A MCLENNAN CHISHOLM PRIORITY, UM, IS, UH, FM FIVE 50.
ITEM I THINK IT'S 15, 16 OR 15? YES.
IT'S WIDENING OR STRAIGHTENING OUT THE CURVE THERE.
AND THERE I DON'T HAVE, DON'T SEE ANY MONEY ALLOCATED TO EITHER OF THOSE IN THIS FIRST ISSUANCE.
IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? YES SIR.
WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE ENGINEERING FOR THE FM FIVE 50 PROJECT.
IT WAS FUNDED WITH 2008 BOND FUNDS.
THEY'RE DOING THE SCHEMATIC AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVAL.
THEY WILL NOT HAVE THAT APPROVED UNTIL SOMETIME IN THE SPRING OF 2027.
THERE'S NO NEED TO ISSUE ANY FUNDS TO PROGRESS IT ANY FURTHER RIGHT NOW WHEN THEY WOULD JUST SET THEIR STAGNANT.
WE'RE NOT READY FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING YET.
UH, UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT, THAT THAT'S OKAY WITH MCCLENNAN CHM.
THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
THAT CAN'T BE ALL THE QUESTIONS.
WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA POINT OUT, WHEN YOU GO DOWN THROUGH THE REPRIORITIZATION, YOU'RE GONNA NOTICE THAT THE BOTTOM LINE ON IT, UM, IS CLOSER TO THE 46, UM, MILLION DOLLAR TYPE RANGE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE 6 MILLION TAKEN OUT FOR 5 49.
UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT AFTER TALKING WITH COMMISSIONER STACY, THE UM, NORTH KING ROAD IN THE SABINE CREEK ROAD, HE'S NOT SURE HE WANTS TO ADVANCE WITH IT THROUGH THE FIRST ISSUANCE.
SO THAT'S NOT ON OUR FIRST ISSUANCE SPREADSHEET.
UM, SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS LIKE THAT BASED ON CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD,
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PROJECTS THAT AREN'T INCLUDED IN THE FIRST ISSUANCE.AND THAT'S WHY YOUR, YOUR TOTALS DON'T MATCH UP THE RE IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THERE'S GONNA BE SOMEBODY COME BEHIND Y'ALL AND YOU'RE GONNA TRY TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED.
AND SO ONCE WE GET, ONCE WE GET Y'ALL'S ORIGINAL PRIORITY REQUEST, WE DON'T THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO CHANGE THE, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST THAT NEEDS TO STAY THE ORIGINAL REQUEST SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER SHEET THAT SHOWS THE ITERATIONS OF CHANGES.
BUT ONCE WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE AGREE WHAT THOSE ARE, IT'LL ROLL ON TO FIRST ISSUANCE AND THEN THAT NUMBER, ONCE THE COURT VOTES ON IT, IS LITERALLY SET IN CONCRETE.
UH, DOW ROCK, THE 6 MILLION FOR DOW ROCK WILL, WILL NEED TO TAKE OFF THERE UNTIL WE YES.
TILL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR FRIENDS YES.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION, UH, JOHN, WHAT DOES IT, I'M LOOKING AT AND I'M SEEING ON, YOU KNOW, JUDGE PRECINCT ONE, PRECINCT TWO, THREE AND FOUR STRATEGIC PROJECTS, BUT THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT AMOUNTS AND THEN THERE'S BOND MONEY THAT'LL BE SPENT FOR THAT.
BUT NOTHING IS NAMED AND LIKE PRECINCT THREE SAYS TO BE DETERMINED, BUT THERE'S NO BOND FUNDS PUT IN THERE.
IS THAT, IS THAT OKAY, SO THE TWO BE DETERMINED ON PRECINCT THREE WAS THE $9.2 MILLION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY EARMARKED FOR THAT BACK ROAD IN HEATH TO REROUTE SEVEN 40 BEHIND THE CITY HALL.
THAT THE, THE PREVIOUS, UH, ADMINISTRATION SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT THE ROAD PRIOR TO THE BOMB PROGRAM.
BUT REMEMBER THIS WAS THE FIRST BOMB PROGRAM WHERE THE, ALL THE LOW HANGING FRUIT PRIORITIES WERE DONE 2004 AND 2008 DID THE BIG KAHUNA PROJECTS, 30 ALL THE INTERCHANGES.
UH, AND SO EACH PRECINCT NOW HAS DIFFERENT NEEDS.
AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE DO, WE ROLLED BACK TO WHAT WE DO WITH OUR OTHER COUNTIES AND PUT, TRY TO BE RELATIVELY EQUAL BETWEEN THE FIVE MEMBERS OF THE COURT AND WE'D ALREADY ALLOCATED THE MONEY TO THOSE PRECINCTS BEFORE WE ZEROED OUT THAT PROJECT.
SO WE COULDN'T TAKE THE 9.2 FROM PRECINCT THREE, WE JUST SAID IT'S NO LONGER FOR THAT ROAD.
IT'LL BE DETERMINED BY A FUTURE DECISION BY THE COURT.
THE STRATEGIC PROJECTS, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST OVER THE LAST 14 BOND PROGRAMS WE'VE DONE IS LIKE YOU SEE RIGHT NOW, FIVE MINUTES AFTER THE BOND PROGRAM PASSES, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO DO THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK OF OR SOMEBODY ASKED YOU ABOUT.
AND YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN YOUR BOND PROGRAM TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS.
AND SO EACH MEMBER HAS A CERTAIN DEGREE OF FLEXIBILITY ON THAT LAST LINE ITEM.
E EACH COMMISSIONER AND THE JUDGE HAS $4 MILLION, UH, THAT THEY CAN ALLOCATE.
UH, A COUPLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALREADY ALLOCATED SOME OF THEIR FUNDS.
UM, SO I DO WANNA MAKE A POINT ABOUT THAT THEY TECHNICALLY HAVE ONLY SPENT OH EIGHT MONEY, SO THEY, EVERYBODY STILL HAS THEIR 4 MILLION BECAUSE Y'ALL JUST AGREED TO LET 'EM SPEND OH EIGHT ON PROJECTS THAT WERE IN 21.
SO THE, EVEN THOUGH IT SAID DISCRETIONARY, YOU HAVEN'T TOUCHED YOUR DISCRETIONARY ACCOUNTS YET.
SO THAT'S STILL WHOLE, IT GETS A LITTLE SQUIRRELY BECAUSE IT WAS AN AGREEMENT ON TRIP 21, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT, WE'RE USING OLD MONEY EIGHT MONEY TO HONOR A TRIP 21 AGREEMENT.
UH, SO IT, IT IT'S JUST ADDED MONEY.
SO HERE'S THE REASON I SAY THAT YOUR 21 BOND PROGRAM, THE WAY LISA AND ITS HAVE TO WORK IS THIS 150 MILLION WHENEVER IT'S ISSUED, HOWEVER IT'S ISSUED, HAS TO STAY IN ITS OWN LITTLE BUBBLE.
SO IF YOU ADD MONEY TO A PROJECT THAT'S OUTSIDE TRIP 21, IT'LL BE ALLOCATED TO THAT PROJECT, BUT IT WILL NEVER BE CO-MINGLED.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU GOT TWO BATHTUBS, YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE A 21 BATHTUB AND A OH EIGHT BATHTUB.
YOU'LL HAVE A PROJECT THAT YOU TAKE 21 MONEY OUT OF THE BATHTUB AND OH EIGHT MONEY OUTTA THE BATHTUB.
BUT YOU'LL NEVER TAKE THOSE TWO AND COMMINGLE AMONGST THEMSELVES.
NO, I, I, I AGREE WITH THAT AND AND APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT WE DO HAVE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE ALREADY ALLOCATED BASED ON THE TRIP 21 NARRATIVE ALLOCATED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO, TO ENTITIES.
AND WE, WE NEED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION IN A WORKSHOP OF WHAT ARE, ARE WE GONNA DOUBLE ALLOCATE THAT WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED, YES, IT'S OH EIGHT, BUT DOES DOES THAT REACH OUR AGREEMENT ON THE TRIP 21 NARRATIVE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS OH EIGHT MONEY? CORRECT.
SO WHATEVER YOU COMMITTED TO LIKE THE 2 MILLION FOR HEATH, THAT THAT 2 MILLION WAS JUST PAID OUTTA OH EIGHT THAT I DON'T THINK HEATH CARED WHETHER IT CAME OUTTA OH EIGHT OR 21.
WHAT THE COURT HAS TO DECIDE IS, 'CAUSE THOSE MONIES WERE ROUGHLY ALLOCATED EQUALLY AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS IN 21.
THE OH EIGHT WAS COME ONE COME.
AND SO THE ASSUMPTION IS IF YOU VOTED FOR IT, YOU WERE OKAY WITH WHATEVER THEY DID WITH IT, WHOEVER VOTED FOR IT.
SO THE 21 WILL STILL HAVE THE 4 MILLION
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PER PRECINCT AND JUDGE, IT'LL BE A POLICY TO QUESTION ON HOW Y'ALL DEAL WITH IT.WILL BE A COURT COMMISSIONER'S COURT DECISION ON POLICY.
'CAUSE I WOULD SU SUSPECT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME DISAGREEMENT ON WHETHER WE SPENT THE MONEY OR DIDN'T SPEND THE MONEY.
JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT WE WANT IT TRULY, THAT TRULY IS WHAT WE WANT.
UM, AND THEN, THEN WE CAN KNOW WHAT OUR BONDING CAPACITY IS AND THEN WE CAN GET DOWN TO THE REAL WORK OF, ALRIGHT, WHAT CAN WE GET DONE AND, AND STAY IN OUR BONDING CAPACITY ON THE FIRST ISSUANCE.
SO WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO BY AT LEAST TWO COMMISSIONERS IS TO, ONCE I GET A ROUGH IDEA OF WHAT WE THINK THE NUMBER IS, PLUS OR MINUS, GO TO MARTY AND ASK HER FOR TWO OR THREE SCENARIOS SO SHE CAN BRING THAT TO Y'ALL AND SHOW YOU A RANGE.
UH, AM I STILL OKAY TO DO THAT? YES.
COORDINATE IT WITH LISA BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY.
SHE'S THE ONLY ONE I'M ACTUALLY REALLY AFRAID OF.
LISA'S ALREADY PRE-RUNNING SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS WITH MARTY, SO YEAH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER, RIGHT? WE DON'T REALLY.
WE'RE CLOSE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND 40 MILLION.
SO I'LL JUST GET HER TO DO TRANCHES.
SHE'LL TELL YOU WHAT IT DOES TO YOUR INS AND, AND THEN YOU CAN, YOU CAN ROLL THE DICE ON THAT ONE.
THAT, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
I I DON'T LIKE THE ROLL THE DICE STATEMENT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT, THAT SOUNDS APPROPRIATE.
UM, CAN I, ONE MORE QUESTION HERE.
NO, I SAID FOR NOW I SAID THAT WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
UM, BUT THANKS FOR PAYING ATTENTION.
UM,
UM, HAVE WE DETERMINED THAT THE MONEY THAT'S ALLOCATED IN FOR THAT IN THE FIRST ISSUANCE, UM, IS EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN SPEND RIGHT NOW REASONABLY, IS THAT KIND OF THE DECISION THAT'S BEEN MADE THERE? 3 MILLION? YES.
UM, THE 3 MILLION THAT YOU SEE ALLOCATED FOR FM SEVEN 40 IS MY ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE ADVANCED PLANNING, THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND SCHEMATIC WORK IS GONNA BE.
WHICH IS BASICALLY A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT WE THINK THE TOTAL COST IS.
AND, AND, AND AGAIN, THE THINKING BEING IF WE CAN'T WORK WITH IT NOW, WAIT TILL THE SECOND ISSUANCE.
AND 3 MILLION IS WHAT YOU THINK WE CAN USE YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE, ARE WE GETTING AN UPDATE ON LIKE THE ROAD STUDY AND THE OUTER LOOP IN THIS MEETING? SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONTH IF YEAH.
MIKE MICHAEL MORRIS IS, UNLESS I'M WRONG, IS DOING A PRESENTATION NEXT MONTH, UH, IN OCTOBER'S MEETING REGARDING THE OUTER LOOP.
UH, AND AS FAR AS THE STUDY, WHICH, WHICH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE, UH, COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WE'VE YEAH, I'M JUST, WE'VE DISCUSSED, I'M, I FEEL LIKE THE LAST TIME WE ACTUALLY DOVE INTO THIS WAS IN APRIL, AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD WORKSHOPS, BUT I JUST NOW WE'VE WE'VE HAD SOME PRETTY SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS, UH, UH, ABOUT THAT.
I'M NOT, I'M SAYING IT IN DEPTH.
SU SUBSEQUENT, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT LAST MEETING, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, LTY AND STACEY ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT SOME ALTERNATIVES.
COG TOOK SOME TIME TO RUN THOSE CALCULATIONS.
WE DID SOME INTERNAL LOOKING AT IT AND THEN WE MET WITH, UH, MICHAEL MORRIS.
WHEN WAS THAT? THAT WAS LAST WEDNESDAY.
TURN, TURN ON THAT MICROPHONE PLEASE.
AND HE WENT OVER THE, WE DID IT LAST WEDNESDAY WITH MICHAEL MORRIS.
THAT WAS A YEAR, TWO YEARS AGO.
I'M GOOD IF IT'S, IF IT'S, WE'RE GONNA TO DIVE INTO IT.
I'M NOT AND JUDGE, I NOT SAYING WE HAVEN'T HAD DISCUSSIONS, I'M SAYING SINCE THE CONSORTIUMS WE HAVEN'T HAD IN DEPTH YOU, WE'VE HAD 'EM IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
I'M TALKING IN, IN THESE CONSORTIUM MEETINGS.
WE, SINCE APRIL WE HAVEN'T HAD A REALLY IN DEPTH CONVERSATION.
OCTOBER'S, WHEN WE'RE PLANNING ON, HE'S GONNA COME IN AND GIVE THE SAME, HOPEFULLY THE SAME EXPLANATION OKAY.
TO Y'ALL THAT HE GAVE I'M TWO COMMISS AND THEN, UH, WE'LL JUST TAKE IT FROM THERE.
AND AS FAR AS THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THAT WILL BE FUNDED WITH THE FIRST ISSUANCE OF THE BOND MONEY.
UM, SO WE, WE ARE PLANNING TO GO, UH, GO AHEAD WITH, WITH THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
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WE WILL PROBABLY, WE'VE, WE GOT AN INITIAL PRESENTATION ON THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, I THINK.UM, AND WE'VE GOT, WE GOT A PROPOSAL FROM PRE NICHOLS, GOT A PROPOSAL FROM PRE NICHOLS.
WE HAD A LONG TEAMS MEETING AFTER THAT WHERE WE'VE MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS, THINGS WE WANTED TO SEE CHANGED, ET CETERA.
AND THEY'VE, THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK TO US WITH A SECOND PROPOSAL.
IN FACT, I THINK IT JUST CAME IN EITHER YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
JUST HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH IT IN DETAIL.
AND I'VE, FROM, I'M PLANNING TO PRESENT THAT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AS A PROPOSAL TO VOTE ON THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER.
AND DO, DO ANY OF THE OTHER CITIES, I MEAN, SEEING THIS, HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS OR, I, I, I, I FEEL LIKE THE LIST IS PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOHN? I DON'T SEE JEFF NEIL HERE, BUT HE'S VERY STEALTHY.
WE, WE WILL LEAVE HIM ALONE IN MAINE.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AT 6 21? WE'RE ADJOURNED.