* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE. IT IS 9:00 AM ON NOVEMBER 12TH. I'M GONNA CALL THE REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING TO ORDER. I'M [A) INVOCATION; Commissioner Macalik] GONNA ASK COMMISSIONER M**K TO LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION, AND THEN COMMISSIONER LICHTY TO US IN OUR PLEDGES, PLEASE STAND AS YOU ARE ABLE. THANK YOU. LET US PRAY, PLEASE. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS OF ALLOWING US TO GATHER HERE TODAY, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS PRIVILEGE OF SERVING OUR COUNTY. WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR GRACE AS WE DISCUSS THE MATTERS THAT ARE BEFORE US TODAY. GRANT US DISCERNING HEARTS AND MINDS SO THAT WE CAN APPROACH THE TOPICS WITH WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING. AND MAY OUR WORDS BE SPOKEN WITH HONESTY AND INTEGRITY, AND WE LISTEN ATTENTIVELY TO EVERYONE. AND WITH RESPECT. REMIND US, FATHER, THAT WE ARE IN THE POSITION NOT TO BE SERVED, BUT TO SERVE THE, THE PUBLIC, JUST AS CHRIST WHO IS KING CAME TO BE SERVED, NOT TO BE SERVED, BUT TO SERVE. WE COMMIT THIS MEETING AND THE OUTCOMES TO YOU. PHILIPPIANS TWO, THREE SAYS, DO NOTHING OUT OF SELFISH AMBITION OR VAIN CONCEIT, RATHER, IN HUMILITY, VALUE OTHERS ABOVE YOURSELVES. SO, LORD, AS WE HONORED OUR VETERANS YESTERDAY, TODAY, I PRAY FOR OUR TROOPS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND ALL WHO PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY TO KEEP US SAFE. SEND YOUR ANGELS TO WATCH OVER AND PROTECT THEM, AND BRING THEM HOME SAFELY TO THEIR FAMILIES EACH AND EVERY DAY. I PRAY ALL THIS IN YOUR NAME, AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN THE FLAG. FIRST FLAG, I ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. AND NOW PROTECT FLAG, HONOR THE TAX FLAG. I PLEDGE THE EXUS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. THAT BRINGS [a) Employee of the Quarter/Third Quarter 2025: Zachary Stimson – Sheriff’s Office] US UP TO RECOGNITION AND PRESENTATION. SHERIFF GARRETT, IF YOU HAD COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE, WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE ZACHARY STIMSON AS OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, RECOGNIZE OUR EMPLOYEES. UH, AS ALWAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE STRIVE TO, TO MAKE THIS COUNTY A BETTER PLACE AND, UH, AND, BUT STILL KEEP THAT, UH, THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL. UH, ZACH CAME TO US SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND HE'S A, A NAVY VET. SO, UH, THIS WEEK WE WANT TO THANK HIM FOR SERVICE. YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY BEING VETERANS DAY, UM, ZACH STIMPSON, UH, STARTED OUT WITH US IN PATROL, AND, UH, HE'S BEEN ONE OF OUR INVESTIGATORS FOR, UH, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW. AND DURING HIS TIME AS, AS AN INVESTIGATOR, HE'S TAKEN A LOT OF INITIATIVE IN DOING THINGS AS HE, AS HE DID WHEN HE WAS IN PATROL. AND, UH, HE ACTUALLY, UH, HAS TAKEN INITIATIVE TO LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT INVESTIGATIONS AND THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THAT W THAT SOME OF THE OTHER AGENCIES DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT. ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT HE'S BEEN INVESTIGATING IS CALLED 7 64. IT'S A, AN KIND OF AN ONLINE CULT GROUP, AND WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF IT, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT IT LATER, UH, ZACH WOULD BE, BE HAPPY TO, TO GIVE YOU THE DETAILS ON IT. UH, AND IT, IT TARGETS, UH, YOUNG, YOUNG WOMEN, ESPECIALLY YOUNG GIRLS, TEENAGE GIRLS. AND SO HE PUT TOGETHER A, UH, PROGRAM FOR, UH, HIS CHURCH AND THE COMMUNITY AND FOR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. AND WHAT HE WAS FINDING OUT WAS NO ONE ELSE KNEW ABOUT THIS GROUP. NO, NONE OF THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AROUND US OR ANYTHING. SO, UH, ZACH WAS, WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN, UH, PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND, AND MAKING PARENTS AWARE. HE ALSO, UH, WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US SOLVE A, UH, SERIAL BURGLARY MOTOR VEHICLE GROUP. UH, WE HAD SOME BURGLARY MOTOR VEHICLES OUT IN THE COUNTY AREA, AND AS HE INVESTIGATED THIS, FOUND OUT THAT ROY CITY AND ROCKWALL, UH, AND FATE WERE HAVING SOME OF THE SAME THINGS AND INITIATED, UH, SOME WARRANTS AND, AND GOT ALL THE SUSPECTS, UH, IN CUSTODY. I THINK THEY WERE FROM THE QUINLAN AREA. MM-HMM. THEY WERE ACTUALLY LIVING OUT OF A, A MOTEL OVER THERE. SO, UM, IT, IT IS, IT IS JUST AMAZING WATCH, WATCHING ZACH AND HIS, HIS TENACITY ON THESE THINGS. SOME OF THE ONLINE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS INVOLVING AN ONLINE TRACTOR PURCHASE, UH, THAT WAS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND IT'S A SCAM. AND, UH, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE GOTTEN THAT CALL SAYING YOU MISSED JURY DUTY AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL LOOKING INTO THOSE, BUT, UH, WHEN WE CAN GET THE WINS ON THESE, UH, WE WANT TO DO THAT. AND ZACH'S BEEN THE KIND OF EMPLOYEE THAT TAKES THE INITIATIVE AND, [00:05:01] UH, STAYS ON IT UNTIL HE GETS SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED ON THERE. SO, IT'S OUR PLEASURE TO NOMINATE INTO HAVE ZACH BE OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER, UH, FOR THIS QUARTER OF 2025. ZACH HAVE A, I I, I'VE LEARNED THE SMARTER THE PERSON IS, THE LESS LIKELY THEY ARE TO COME UP AND, AND SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE. SO, THANK YOU, OFFICER. DEPUTY STIMSON, UH, THAT [b) Employee of the Quarter/Third Quarter 2025: Patrick Kirlin – District Attorney’s Office] BRINGS US TO OUR NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT EMPLOYEE, THE COURT, THE DA'S OFFICE. MR. PATRICK KILAN. KENDA, COME TAKE IT AWAY, PLEASE. NO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONERS. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND CELEBRATE ONE OF OUR VERY OWN, UM, AND SOMEONE THAT WE ARE INCREDIBLY PROUD, UM, TO CALL ONE OF OUR OWN. UH, WE ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE PAT KLIN. UM, PAT HAS BEEN A PROSECUTOR FOR OVER 30 YEARS. WE WON'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH OVER 30 YEARS, UH, STARTED HIS CAREER IN DALLAS WHERE HE ROSE UP THE RANKS. SO MANY OF US CAME FROM DALLAS, AND HE ROSE RIGHT UP THE RANKS TO BE A SUPER CHIEF, UM, IN THE DALLAS COUNTY PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, MEANING THAT FOR THE LAST DECADE OR SO, HE WAS TRYING, UM, MANY OF THE CAPITAL MURDERS, UH, WHICH WE KNOW THERE ARE PLENTY OF 'EM IN DALLAS, UM, IN THE DALLAS COUNTY AREA. UM, FOR THAT TIME, HE WAS A GO-TO PROSECUTOR IN DALLAS COUNTY, UH, SUPERVISING COURTS, AND, UH, CERTAINLY TRYING SOME OF THE MOST SERIOUS CASES THERE IN DALLAS IN 2019. UM, I CALLED HIM AND BEGGED HIM, UH, TO COME TO ROCKWELL COUNTY TO BE A PROSECUTOR HERE. AND WE ARE INCREDIBLY LUCKY THAT HE ANSWERED THAT CALL AND CAME AND JOINED OUR OFFICE. HE HAS BEEN HERE SINCE THAT TIME AS A FELONY TRIAL PROSECUTOR, AND HAS CONTINUED TO TRY SOME OF THE MOST SERIOUS CASES IN ROCKWELL COUNTY. IN FACT, UM, WE JUST HAD OUR FIRST, UH, SERIES OF CAPITAL MURDERS THAT WERE FILED IN ROCKWELL COUNTY. UM, SINCE I WAS ELECTED IN 2008. UM, IT WAS NATURAL THAT WE WOULD CALL PAT TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THOSE CASES, AND HE ADMIRABLY DID THAT. IN FACT, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT HE WAS NOMINATED, UM, BY BARBARA TOKU IN, UH, THE FOUR 39TH, BECAUSE HE DID SUCH A GREAT JOB ON THOSE CASES AND DISPOSING OF THOSE CASES. NOT ONLY, UM, LOOKING AT THE FACTS, WORKING WITH THE VICTIMS, UH, BUT MAKING SURE THAT HE DRILLED DOWN INTO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ISSUES IN THAT CASE. UM, SO HE HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO US IN THAT SENSE. HE'S OBVIOUSLY A TALENTED TRIAL PROSECUTOR, UM, BUT PAT IS A LOT MORE THAN THAT. HE IS ALSO AN INCREDIBLE, UH, SUPERVISOR. HE'S ALSO AN INCREDIBLE MENTOR. I OFTEN GO BY HIS OFFICE AND SEE YOUNGER PROSECUTORS IN THERE, OR STAFF TALKING ABOUT CASES OR HOW THEY SHOULD TRY THEIR OWN CASES. I SEE HIM IN THE COURTROOMS WATCHING YOUNG PROSECUTORS AND GIVING THEM, UM, THE BENEFIT OF HIS VAST KNOWLEDGE. BUT THERE'S EVEN MORE, UM, PAT HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE KINDEST PEOPLE, AND EVERYBODY'S SHAKING THEIR HEAD THAT I HAVE EVER MET. UM, I HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM RAISE HIS VOICE. AND THAT IS SOMETHING, UM, IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHICH IS A VERY HIGH STRESS PLACE. UH, AND I, I THINK THAT HE HONESTLY HAS SOME KIND OF KIND GENE THAT SOMEDAY I WILL EMULATE. IT WON'T BE TODAY. UM, BUT I THINK THAT PART OF THAT MAY COME FROM A DEEP LOVE THAT HE HAS FOR HIS FAMILY, HIS BEAUTIFUL WIFE, HIS TWO KIDS. UM, SO PAT CURLIN IS INCREDIBLY HONOR OF, UH, IS INCREDIBLY, UM, DESERVING OF THIS AWARD. AND WHERE WE JUST HEARD ABOUT, UM, A DEPUTY THAT'S YOUNGER ON THE FORCE AND HAS GOTTEN IN THERE AND REALLY, UH, DONE SOME AMAZING THINGS. PAT CURLIN HAS. WE ARE CELEBRATING TODAY THE BREADTH OF HIS WORK, THE FACT THAT EVERY DAY HE SHOWS UP FOR WORK, AND HE MAKES US ALL PROUD, UM, TO FIGHT FOR THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND TO BE A PROSECUTOR. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, HE HAS AN ENORMOUS FAN BASE. UH, CONGRATULATIONS, PAT. WE ARE INCREDIBLY PROUD TO CALL YOU ONE OF OUR OWN. THANK. THANK YOU, [00:10:01] PAT. I DIDN'T MEAN TO SCARE YOU AWAY FROM THE MICROPHONE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO SAY SOME WORDS IF YOU'D LIKE. GO AHEAD. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, JUST TO SAY THANK YOU, UH, KENDA FOR THE KIND WORDS AND FOR THE, UH, THE TURNOUT. UM, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I DO, I HANDLE IT BETTER IN THE COURTROOM THAN IN FRONT OF, UH, EVERYBODY HERE, BUT I AM DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR THE RECOGNITION AND THE HONOR, AND ROCKWALL IS A FANTASTIC PLACE TO WORK. UM, WHEN I CAME HERE ORIGINALLY WHEN KENDA ASKED ME, UH, I THOUGHT A COUPLE OF YEARS, 'CAUSE I HAD RETIRED FROM DALLAS. AND, UH, HERE IT IS, I'M GOING ON SEVEN YEARS, AND I MAY BE HERE FOR ANOTHER 30. . THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. [1. PUBLIC FORUM: (This is the public’s opportunity to address the Commissioners Court about County matters. During this meeting, the Commissioners Court will not discuss, consider or take action on any item not included on this meeting’s agenda. We respectfully ask that anyone stepping forward to speak during the Public Forum to please limit remarks to three minutes or less.)] THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM ONE. PUBLIC FORUM IS THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COURT ABOUT ANY COUNTY MATTERS. WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP. FIRST ON THE LIST IS JORGE CHAVEZ. MR. CHAVEZ, COME FORWARD. YEP. MI MR. CHAVEZ, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SPEAK UNDER THE AGENDA ITEM. OKAY. IF WE WANTED TO DO THE AGENDA UNDER THE AGENDA ONLY. OKAY, GREAT. GREAT. AND, AND DOMINGA CRUZ THE SAME? YES. WITH HIM. GOT IT. GOT IT, GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE YOU BACK UP WHEN WE HIT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT REGARDING ANY COUNTY MATTERS? SEEING EVERYBODY LEAVING THE COURTROOM AND NO ONE HEADING, HEADING TO THE FRONT, WE WILL MOVE [2. Discuss/Act on updates of the Strategic Plan 2050 Implementation Management Plan, and all related issues; (Commissioner Macalik)] ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN 2050 IMPLEMENTATION MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER M**K, THANK YOU, JUDGE. UM, WANNA GIVE YOU A, AN UPDATE? UM, KAMI WEBB AND JIM BARTO AND I, WE HAD, UM, NOT QUITE THE LAST MEETING WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION, UM, DIRECTOR OR MANAGER FOR OUR PROGRAM WITH INVISIO LAST ON THUR. MY DATES ARE ALL KIND OF LAST THURSDAY, I THINK, RIGHT? THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. BUT ANYWAY, SO WE HAVE, UM, WE'VE NOW GONE THROUGH, UM, SEVERAL TIMES A LOT OF THE TRAINING OF THE, OF THE SOFTWARE AND THE PROCESSES AND THE PROCEDURES WITH THE MOST OF THE TEAM MEMBERS AND, AND HOW WE WILL BE USING AND ACCESSING THAT SOFTWARE. AND ULTIMATELY HOW IT WILL BE INTERFACING WITH OUR WEBSITE FOR TRANSPARENCY, STARTING IN PROBABLY JANUARY. UM, I, I DO WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT JUST REAL QUICKLY ABOUT PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE IT, IT, IT, AS WE, AS WE DID THE TRAINING, UM, WITH INVISIO, WE REALIZED THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, MANAGERS, DIRECTORS, UM, VARIOUS TEAM LEADS THAT ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE SOME FORM OF INVESTMENT AND, AND PARTICIPATION IN THE, IN THE, IN, IN THE PLAN. AND SO I JUST WANNA CALL OUT A KUDOS TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN DIGGING IN AND THEY'RE LEARNING AND THEY'VE BEEN SUBMITTING THEIR INFORMATION TO, UM, TO CAMMIE AND, UM, WHO'S KIND OF MA LOOKING AT AND WA WATCHING EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING INTO THE SOFTWARE. BUT TRULY, I I, I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF THEIR SUPPORT AND THEIR PARTICIPATION. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE SOME GREAT EMPLOYEES AND WE HAVE SOME GREAT OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS. AND I THINK THE GOAL ALL ALONG HAS BEEN FOR US TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND TO ACCOMPLISH THE, WHAT WE SET OUT FOR WHEN WE INITIALLY BEGAN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING. SO, AND I ALWAYS WANNA GIVE KUDOS TO CAMIE AND TO JIM FOR KIND OF BACKING ME UP AND HELPING ME OUT. 'CAUSE SOMETIMES I'M LIKE, I THINK, I THINK THE JUDGE WAS IN MY OFFICE THE OTHER DAY AND WE WERE ON A ZOOM CALL AND I WENT LIKE THIS. AND I DIDN'T MEAN THAT IT WAS DRIVING ME CRAZY. I JUST MEANT THIS IS BLOWING MY MIND, . SO I SAY THAT IN ALL, IN ALL IN ALL GREATNESS, THAT IT TAKES A TEAM, TEAMWORK MAKES A DREAM WORK. SO THAT'S MY UPDATE. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE, UM, THE TIMELINE AND THE KEY DELIVERABLES FROM WHAT I DID TWO WEEKS AGO. SO WE'LL WAIT UNTIL PROBABLY THE NEXT MEETING FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER [3. Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)] THREE, DISCUSS AN ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE COURTHOUSE COURTROOM EDITIONS, THIRD FLOOR PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER ALANA SAL'S ON THE WAY. SAL IS ON THE WAY ON THE WAY. GOOD MORNING COURT. GOOD MORNING. PROGRESS OF BEING MADE, OF COURSE. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S BEEN UP THERE RECENTLY, BUT IT LOOKS GREAT. THE MILLWORKS ALMOST COMPLETELY DONE. THERE'S SOME TOUCH UP THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. UM, THE LARGEST REMAINING ITEM ARE THE DETENTION PANELS. UM, AND THOSE ARE ACTIVELY PUT UP. I THINK MOST OF WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON NOW IS YOUR MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND, AND CEILINGS IN THERE. SO, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON TRACK TO, TO STAY ON SCHEDULE FOR A, A 1ST OF JANUARY COMPLETION. UM, AND WE ARE STILL UNDER BUDGET. WE'VE [00:15:01] HAD NO SURPRISES, UH, MAJOR TO DATE. SO WE DO DO STILL EXPECT MOST OF THAT OWNER'S CONTINGENCY TO COME BACK TO THE COUNTY, UM, WHICH IS BETWEEN THAT 150 TO 200,000 RANGE. UH, AGAIN, BARRING ANY SURPRISES FROM NOW UNTIL THE END. UM, WE'VE MADE SELECTIONS ON FURNITURE. I THINK WE'RE JUST WAITING ON A SIGNED AGREEMENT AT THIS POINT. AND, UM, SIGNAGE IS THE OTHER THING THAT'S KIND OF OPEN THERE, WHICH WE ARE REALLY CLOSE TO GETTING, GETTING COMPLETED WITH BARRY AND, AND THE MAINTENANCE GROUP. ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAL COMM? COMMISSIONER ALANA, WELCOME TO FURNITURE. OH, YES, IT'S THRILLING. . ALL RIGHT, SAL, I THINK YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK ON THIS ONE. ANYWAY, THANK YOU, SIR FOR THE UPDATE. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR, [4. Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the American Rescue Plan monies and the County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] DISCUSSING ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONIES AND THE COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY. YEAH, SO, UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, OUR GRAND OPENING COMING UP VERY SOON, 14TH, UM, AT 10 O'CLOCK. SO THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING. UM, ALL KNOWN PCOS HAVE BEEN, UH, PROCESSED, WHICH IS ALSO NICE. WE'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE TO THE END. UM, WE DO HAVE A FURNITURE DELIVERY DATE, WHICH IS AWESOME. IT'S JANUARY 8TH AND NINTH ON OUR LAST ORDER OF, UH, FURNITURE. SO, UM, HOPEFULLY BOBBY DOES BETTER WITH HIS FURNITURE DELIVERY THAN, UM, THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY. UM, NEXT WEEK IS, IS GONNA BE A PRETTY BIG WEEK AS FAR AS FINISHING SOME VERY KNOWN THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. UM, AND THEN OUR AUDIT IS ONGOING. YOU WILL SEE IN THE CONSENT AGENDA THERE IS A REFUND. SO THE AUDIT FOUND ABOUT $12,000 OF OVERAGES. SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. UM, IT'S NOT THAT THE BUDGET'S BEING BLOWN, IT'S JUST THAT AS, UH, LISA KNOWS FINISHING AN AUDIT IS JUST A PROCESS OF, CAN YOU SHOW ME THIS PAPERWORK? CAN YOU FIND THIS, CAN YOU BACK UP THIS NUMBER? UM, AND, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH, WITH, WITH THE ANNEX BUILDING AT THIS POINT. UM, WE KNOW HOW MUCH THE STATE, UH, IS GONNA CHARGE US TO MOVE THE TAX OFFICE, BUT WE'RE ON WEEK FOUR OF WAITING FOR THE INVOICE. UM, SO WE CAN'T CLOSE AN AUDIT WITHOUT PAYING THE STATE FOR MOVING THE ANNEX. SO, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, WHERE WE'RE AT. AND I THINK, NICO, WE GOT AN EMAIL THIS MORNING THAT SAYS, WE'RE AWARE OF YOUR REQUESTS THAT THE INVOICE IS BEING PROCESSED. YEAH, IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE GOT ABOUT EIGHT O'CLOCK THIS MORNING. SO IT'S THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, MAJOR OR SCARY. IT'S JUST ACTUALLY WRAPPING IT UP, MAKING THE FINAL CHANGE ORDER, AND THEN RELEASING THE FUNDS AND CLOSING THE PROJECT OUT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE AT THAT FINAL, FINAL REALM OF, OF GETTING THROUGH THAT. SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THE ANNEX. AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT I'M CONCURRENTLY WORKING WITH GRANT WORKS TO DO THE ARPA CLOSEOUTS AS WELL. UM, AND THERE MAY BE A FEW THINGS THAT I'LL LEAN ON THE COUNTY STAFF, UH, TO GATHER AS, AS FAR AS BID ADVERTISEMENT AND RFQ PAPERWORK FOR, UH, PRE-CONSTRUCTION. UM, BUT I'LL REACH OUT ON THOSE AND CURRENTLY WORKING ON THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE INTERESTING THINGS IS WE WERE SO WORRIED ABOUT THE TIMELINE AND 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE FUNDS SPENT BEFORE DECEMBER OF 2026, AND WE'RE GONNA BE ABOUT A YEAR EARLY OF GETTING ALL THE FUNDS SPENT. WE, WE WERE REALLY WORRIED, CAN WE GET THIS DONE IN THIS TIMELINE? WELL, WELL, WE WERE, WE WEREN'T A THOUGHT SPIRAL. SO THERE, THERE WAS AN IDEA OF WILL THIS COURT EVER VOTE ? YEAH, TRUE, TRUE. LET'S, LET'S NOT HAVE HER REVISION THIS HISTORY, FRANK. NO, I'M KIDDING. I'M KIDDING. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE FOR US, NICO? NOPE. THAT WAS IT FOR THE ANNEX. ANY QUESTIONS FOR NICO? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, SIR. LOOK FORWARD TO THAT GRAND OPENING THIS FRIDAY AT 10. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA [5. Discuss/Act on the Sheriff’s remodel project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] ITEM NUMBER FIVE, DISCUSS AN ACT ON THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY. YEAH, NICO IS GONNA TAKE THIS ONE OVER. YEAH. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. UM, BEFORE I GIVE THE UPDATE IN LIGHT OF VETERANS DAY YESTERDAY, UH, TO EVERYONE IN THE ROOM AND EVERYONE LISTENING THAT HAS SERVED OUR COUNTRY, I JUST WANTED TO GENUINELY, UH, UH, EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE, UH, FOR YOUR SERVICE. UM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RENOVATION IS UNDER BUDGET, AND WE ARE, UH, GONNA DISCUSS PCO NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS JUST A UTILIZATION OF AN ALLOWANCE THAT WAS ALREADY BUILT INTO THE GMP. UM, THERE'S NOTHING TO UPDATE AS FAR AS, UH, BUDGET, UM, CONT CONTINGENCY USAGE. UH, SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO THE SCHEDULE. WE ARE CURRENTLY BEHIND SCHEDULE WITH CONSTRUCTION. UM, I'M STILL WORKING WITH SCI TO COME UP WITH AN UPDATED SCHEDULE, UH, SO THAT WAY WE CAN BEGIN TO FAST TRACK AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE'LL GET BACK ON SCHEDULE. UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE, THE DELAYS IN SCHEDULE HAVE COME LARGELY DUE TO PERMITTING CHANGES, BUT THERE ALSO HAS [00:20:01] BEEN SOME OWNER REQUESTS THAT HAS, UH, CAUSED MINOR DELAYS. IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY THE PAST FEW WEEKS, UH, WE REALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING KIND OF SORTING THROUGH THE WEEDS OF LOW VOLTAGE SCOPES AS WELL AS, UM, THE FURNITURE LAYOUT AND, AND FIGURING OUT WHERE POWER AND DATA NEEDS TO BE LOCATED, UM, FOR CONSTRUCTION. AND THAT'S KIND OF HELD UP THE, THE CLOSING OF DRYWALL FOR PHASE ONE. SO, UM, BUT SCI CONTINUES TO KIND OF FIND THINGS TO DO AROUND THE JOB SITE, WHETHER IT'S, UM, BLOCKING, FIGURING OUT WHERE THEIR BLOCKING NEEDS TO GO IN THE, IN THE WALL FOR AV OR ACCESSORIES, WHATEVER. UM, THEY HAVE BEEN STAYING BUSY, WHICH, UH, I APPRECIATE. UH, THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE'LL JUST, UM, CONTINUE TRYING TO BRING CLARITY TO THOSE LOW VOLTAGE SCOPES AND ENSURE THAT THE SHERIFF'S TEAM HAS EVERYTHING INCLUDED, UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR INTENT FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE GET TOO FAR ALONG AND START CLOSING WALLS. SO, UM, PROCUREMENT WISE, UH, THE RTUS FOR THE PROJECT WILL ARRIVE MID-DECEMBER. UH, WE JUST RECEIVED THAT, UH, DATE LAST WEEK. UH, KIND OF WHAT'S AN RTU NICO ROOFTOP UNIT? SORRY, THE, YEP. THE AC UNITS FOR THE, FOR THE BUILDING. UH, WE RECEIVED THE FURNITURE TEST FIT LAYOUT FROM A FURNITURE VENDOR, UH, LAST WEEK. AND SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT, WE'LL BEGIN TO ASSESS ON HOW IT, HOW IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE, THE SHERIFF'S TEAM'S USE AND, UH, MAKE ANY TWEAKS, FINAL TWEAKS THAT THEY NEED TO, TO THE FINAL LAYOUT, UH, AND BE ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH THE REST OF THE PROJECT. UM, AS FAR AS QAQC, UH, THERE'S REALLY NO UPDATE THERE. UH, STILL WAITING TO GET THE INSPECTIONS, UH, FOR THE PRED DRYWALL OVERHEAD. AND THEN, UH, I BELIEVE BELIEVE WE DID GET OUR STRUCTURAL INSPECTION. UH, WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR, UM, AN EMAIL CONFIRMATION THAT IT WAS APPROVED, AND THAT INSPECTION IS FOR THE OPERABLE PARTITION BETWEEN THE TRAINING ROOM AND THE EOC ROOM. UH, THAT WRAPS UP MY UPDATES. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS FOR NICO? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, NICO. YEP. THAT TAKES US [6. Discuss/Act on installation of outdoor antennas for three control station radios by L3 Harris Technologies in relation to the Sheriff’s Office remodel, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSS AND ACT ON INSTALLATION OF OUTDOOR ANTENNAS FOR THREE CONTROL STATION RADIOS BY L THREE HARRIS TECHNOLOGIES IN RELATION TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE REMODEL IN ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY? YEAH, SO I'M GOING TO PUNT THE DETAILS TO NICO ON THIS. UM, BUT THIS IS, UH, DEFINITELY SOMETHING NEEDED TO HELP US BETTER FACILITATE, UH, THE REMODEL AND, AND OUR COMMUNICATION. AND WHEN THEY START TALKING ABOUT LOW VOLTAGE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS RUNNING THESE SORTS OF WIRES THROUGH THE BUILDING. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BETTER WAYS TO DO THAT, BUT I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU. YEAH. SO, UM, VERY SIMPLY, THIS IS JUST TO RELOCATE AND REPLACE THE CURRENT INTENT RADIO ANTENNA FOR HARRIS IN THE BUILDING. I THINK THEY HAVE IT IN A SERVER ROOM CURRENTLY, SO THEY'RE GETTING A NEW ANTENNA AND THEY'RE RELOCATING IT TO THE ROOF. UM, AND SO WE, WE NEED THAT APPROVED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH THINGS LIKE THE ROOFING AND THE, THE AC UNITS THAT WILL BE INSTALLED SOMETIME IN DECEMBER. NICO, IS THERE A, UM, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF A PROTOCOL OF WHETHER THAT TYPE OF ANTENNA BELONGS INSIDE VERSUS OUT ON THE ROOF, OR IS IT JUST A IT'S JUST A GAME DAY CALL? I THINK IT IS, YEAH. I THINK IT'S REALLY A, A SIGNAL THING WHERE THEY GET THE BEST SIGNAL, WHICH I WOULD IMAGINE ON THE ROOF WOULD BE MUCH BETTER THAN IN A SERVER ROOM, BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. UM, BUT I'D, I'D IMAGINE, UH, HARRIS KNOWS BEST. YES. AND IT DOES, AS YOU SAID. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. I, I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU. ARE YOU DONE, COMMISSIONER? UM, COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE. FIRST OF ALL, IS THIS, ARE WE JUST BUYING PARTS OR, BECAUSE THERE'S, I, THE, THE PURCHASE ORDER SAID THAT INSTALLATION IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THEY WOULD INSTALL. YEAH, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT THEY WILL BE INSTALLING IT ON THE ROOF. OKAY. AND IF THAT, IF IT'S THAT, IF THAT IT'S DOWN IN THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS. PARAGRAPH THREE, JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT SAYS WHERE THAT, BECAUSE IT SAYS IT EXCLUDES THE PRICING DOESN'T INCLUDE [00:25:01] THINGS THAT ARE OUR CUSTOMER'S RESPONSIBILITY INSTALLATION. AND IT COULD, IT COULD BE THE WHOLE THING IS INSTALLATION, RIGHT? YEAH. IT COULD BE THAT THEY RUN ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE CABLING TO THE LOCATION WHERE IT'S GOING AND SOMEONE JUST NEEDS TO LITERALLY ATTACH THE ANTENNA. BUT WHERE THIS IS ALL WE'RE GONNA BE CHARGED IS THIS $4,713? YES, SIR. OKAY. SECOND QUESTION. AND ARE THESE MONIES COMING FROM OUR OWNER CONTINGENCY, OR WHAT DO THEY COME OUT OF? UH, THERE'S A SIDE ALLOWANCE BUILT INTO THE TOTAL, TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET OUTSIDE OF THE GMP. SO OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACTOR'S CONTRACT, WE HAVE THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET, AND THERE'S A SMALL ALLOWANCE THAT I'VE ALLOWED FOR RADIO AND LOW VOLTAGE. IS THAT ADDITIONAL, IS THAT THE CONTINGENCY, OR IS JUST A SEPARATE AMOUNT? NO, IT'S AN ALLOWANCE. IT'S, YEAH. OKAY. MM-HMM . WELL, GOOD, BECAUSE I GOT A QUESTION ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM ABOUT THAT, SO YOU'RE WARMING ME UP. THANK YOU VERY WELL. APPRECIATE IT. NO PROBLEM. MAY I ASK A QUESTION, NICO, ON THE ANTENNAS? YES. UM, NICO, ARE THESE ANTENNAS PURELY FOR ROCKWELL COUNTY? THE L THREE'S NOT GOING TO RENT ANY SPACE OUT ON THESE ANTENNAS FOR OTHER BUSINESSES, CORRECT? THIS IS JUST FOR US. YES. THIS SHOULD BE JUST FOR US, JUST FOR THE, YEAH. SHERIFF'S OFFICE. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INSTALLATION OF OUTDOOR ANTENNAS FOR THREE CONTROL STATION RADIOS BY L THREE HARRIS TECHNOLOGIES FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE REMODEL, UM, NOT TO EXCEED $4,713 AND 25 CENTS. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GUANO. THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND THAT. GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LTE. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU, NICO. THAT BRINGS US TO [7. Discuss/Act on approving Prime Contract Change Order No. 005 to the agreement with SCI Construction for the Rockwall County Sheriff Office Renovation project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING PRIME CONTRACT CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 0 0 5 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH SCI CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ROCKWELL COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE RENOVATION PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY? YEAH, AND I'M GONNA HAVE NICO EXPLAIN THE DETAILS, BUT YEAH, THIS IS JUST A, A SAW CUT AND, AND CEILING CUTS THAT WE NEEDED TO DO IN ONE OF THE ROOMS, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOU EXPLAIN THAT. YEAH. SO THEY, THEY BUILT IN A CONTINGENCY, OR NOT CONTINGENCY, SORRY, AN ALLOWANCE INTO THEIR, THEIR CONTRACT FOR THIS, THIS SUCH WORK THAT THEY KIND OF EXPECTED, UH, JUST A LOT OF CONCRETE IN THIS BUILDING JUST THROUGHOUT, THAT'S IN BAD SHAPE, UM, THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO FLOAT OUT OR TOUCH UP OR, UH, CUT OUT AND REPLACE. UM, SO THIS IS JUST REALLY JUST UTILIZATION OF THAT ALLOWANCE MONEY THAT THEY'VE BUILT INTO THEIR CONTRACT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU, NIKO, OR IF IT'S FOR OUR AUDITOR MM-HMM . UM, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I READ THIS AND ALL, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT THIS IS OTHER THAN MM-HMM . PROCEDURALLY, IF WE HAVE IN THE CONTRACT A SAW CUT ALLOWANCE, WHICH TO ME SAYS WE'RE PROVIDING MONEY FIRST DOING SAW CUTS, WHY DO WE HAVE TO BRING IT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT? I BELIEVE THE CHANGE ORDER, IT'S, UH, UH, BECAUSE IT'S ALTERING THE CONTRACT, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY. YEAH. UL ULTIMATELY THOSE ALLOWANCES ARE SET ASIDE WITH KIND OF, WE, YOU KNOW, THEY GIVE US A GMP AND THEN THEY START THINKING, WHAT ARE THE UNKNOWNS? WELL, THE UNKNOWNS IS ALL THE CONCRETE WORK. SO THEY SET AN ALLOWANCE ASIDE. THIS IS TAKING THOSE ALLOWANCES AND BUILDING THEM INTO THE GMP. AND THEN IF WE DON'T NEED THOSE ALLOWANCES, THEY'RE RELEASED TO US AFTER, UH, AFTER THOSE PHASES ARE DONE TO COMMISSIONER ELECT'S POINT, THESE, IT DOES, THESE PCOS DON'T NECESSARILY CHANGE THE CONTRACT AMOUNT. THEY'RE ZERO COST PCOS. UH, SO THEY'RE JUST MERELY UTILIZATION OF WHAT'S ALREADY IN THERE. UNDERSTOOD. SO IT'S, I HAVE TO COME TO COURT AND THAT I HAVE, LIKE I SAID, NO PROBLEM WITH SPENDING THE MONEY AND DOING THE WORK AT ALL. IT JUST SEEMED, MAYBE I DON'T, DIDN'T READ THE CONTRACT CAREFULLY ENOUGH, BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE HAVE A SAW CUT ALLOWANCE AND WE'RE GONNA SPEND MONEY TO SAW CUT FROM THE SAW CUT ALLOWANCE, THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO A CHANGE ORDER. BUT NO, I'M, YOU TELL ME WE HAVE TO. I'M WITH YOU, . I'M WITH YOU. YOU NICO. AGREE NICO, AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE. BUT FOR SOME REASON, WHAT THIS DOES, THIS PREVENTS GETTING TO THE END AND ALL OF US THINKING, HEY, WE HAVE THIS EXTRA MONEY LEFT OVER. NOW WE WANT TO DO THIS SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE MONEY. AND, AND NOW THERE'S A PAPER TRAIL THAT SAYS, NO, WE SPENT ALL OF OUR ALLOWANCE MONEY ON, [00:30:01] ON THIS. BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT IN ASKING THAT. I SPENT MY FIRST SIX MONTHS SITTING BEHIND THIS MICROPHONE ASKING, WHY ARE WE SEEING THIS? WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO COME TO COURT? WHY THIS IS A SIMPLE DECISION. WHY, WHAT, WHY ARE WE VOTING ON THIS? WELL, FRANK, THAT JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH SMARTER THAN YOU ARE THAN ME, BECAUSE IT ONLY TOOK YOU SIX MONTHS. I'M WORKING ON 11 . I THINK MAYBE I JUST GAVE UP EARLIER, EARLIER . OKAY. UH, WELL, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PRIME CONTRACT ORDER NUMBER FIVE TO THE AGREEMENT WITH SCI CONSTRUCTION. I'LL SECOND THE, YOU'VE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU, NICO. THANK YOU GUYS. THIS BRINGS [8. Discuss/Act on approving key access for Commissioners Court to Developmental Services, Indigent Health Care and Veterans located at the Rockwall County Annex, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING KEY ACCESS FOR COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES, INDIGENT HEALTHCARE AND VETERANS LOCATED AT THE ROCKWALL COUNTY ANNEX AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY? YEAH. UM, I WAS, UH, UH, ON VACATION LAST WEEK, SO I DIDN'T GET TO THE AGENDA FAST ENOUGH. BUT THIS ITEM HAS ALREADY BEEN HANDLED BY SECURITY, SO THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED BY THE COURT. UM, BUT BASICALLY THE KEYING OF THOSE BUILDINGS, THE KEYING OF THESE DEPARTMENTS PRECLUDED US FROM ENTERING THEM. THAT HAS BEEN FIXED. AND WE WILL HAVE KEYS ISSUED TO THE COURT VERY SOON. THAT'S, AND IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL BEEN DONE AND HANDLED BY SECURITY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE DID A PREEMPTIVE, WHY IS THIS COMING BEFORE THE COURT ? WE, WE, WE CAUGHT IT. WE CAUGHT IT. ALL RIGHT. THAT [9. Discuss/Act on approving the final plat of lots 88 and 89 located in the Chavez Addition, Chisholm Trails #2, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)] BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT OF LOTS 88 AND 89, LOCATED AT THE CHAVEZ EDITION, CHISHOLM TRAILS NUMBER TWO AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER TI. UM, YES, THIS IS A SUBDIVISION OF LAND ON SANTA FE LANE IN PRECINCT THREE. UM, THERE'S BASICALLY TWO ISSUES THAT THE COURT'S GONNA CONSIDER. FIRST IS THE PLAT AND THE CONDITIONS ON THE PLAT THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE LETTER FROM OUR ENGINEER. AND THE SECOND ARE THE APPORTIONMENT FEES THAT ARE BEING CHARGED FOR THIS. UM, WE HAVE UNDER REGULATIONS 3.3 0.5, WE HAVE THREE CHOICES BEFORE US TO APPROVE, TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR TO DISAPPROVE. UM, AND WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO ASK FOR OUR COUNTY ENGINEER TO EXPLAIN THIS TO US. SURE. UM, I THINK YOU GAVE A VERY GOOD RUNDOWN OF THE ITEM. THESE ARE, IT'S APPROXIMATELY, UH, 1.64 ACRES PER LOT, TWO LOTS BEING CONSIDERED TODAY. AND I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAT SUBJECT TO, UM, THE ONE COMMENT OUTSTANDING, WHICH WAS REGARDING APPORTIONMENT FEES BEING PAID. SO, UM, BEFORE YOU, I, I, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE APPORTIONMENT DETERMINATION LETTER IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. UM, I ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, PUT AN UPDATED COPY OF THE PLAT IN FRONT OF YOU. SO WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE. AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TODAY, UH, TO SPEAK. UM, IF JUDGE, IF I MAY, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. UH, ERICA, I HAVE A, A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YOU, YOUR, YOUR LETTER OF OCTOBER 10TH THAT LAID OUT ALL THE CONDITIONS, UM, YOU SAID YOU'D RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO FIGURING OUT APPORTIONMENT, BUT DOESN'T THE APPROVAL HAVE TO BE SUBJECT TO ALL THESE CONDITIONS, OR HAVE THEY ALL BEEN SATISFIED ALREADY? THEY'VE BEEN SATISFIED. UM, OKAY. THAT'S WHY I GAVE YOU THE UPDATED PLAT. UM, ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS WERE ADDRESSED BESIDES THE APPORTIONMENT COMMENT. OKAY. THAT'S STILL UP FOR DISCUSSION TODAY. GREAT. UM, UH, OKAY. AT THIS POINT, I'M, THAT'S FOR ALL FOR RIGHT NOW. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ERIC? I KNOW THE, THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UH, AND, AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. SO IF, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD AND GOOD MORNING. UM, SO MY NAME IS DOMINGA. I AM HIS REALTOR. I AM REPRESENTING HIM, BUT HE IS THE PROPERTY OWNER. UM, SO WE DO HAVE THE 1.7 ACRES, WHICH HAS THE HOUSE, AND THEN WE WANT TO SUBDIVIDE THE, OR SEPARATE THE, THE 1.6 ACRES RIGHT NEXT TO IT SO HE CAN BUILD A HOUSE. UM, AND THE, OUR QUESTION IS THAT THEY'VE BEEN TWO PARCELS FOR THE LONGEST TIME EVER. HE HAS TWO SEPARATE IDS AND HE'S BEEN PAYING TAXES ON BOTH OF THEM. UM, THEY ALSO HAVE ROAD ACCESS, SO WE JUST WANNA KNOW IF IT WAS ABLE TO GET SUBDIVIDED OR NOT. UM, JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I DISCUSSED THIS WITH OUR ENGINEER AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEED, UH, INTO THE OWNER WAS A DEED OF THE ENTIRE THREE POINT, UH, AL THREE POINT SOMETHING ACRES. CORRECT. [00:35:01] IT WAS ONE MEETS AND BOUNDS FOR ALL OF IT. SO WHAT WE'RE CON BEING CONFRONTED WITH NOW IS A SUBDIVISION OF THAT PROPERTY. AND, AND THE STATE LAW SAYS YOU CAN'T SUBDIVIDE PROPERTY INTO LESS THAN FIVE ACRES WITHOUT PLATTING. IT, IT WASN'T PLATTED WHEN HE BOUGHT IT. AND THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUES WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE. BUT IT WASN'T PLATTED PROPERLY. BUT HE DID RECEIVE AN ACRE WAS 3.2 ACRES, ERICA, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE DEED, YOUR DEED WAS FOR 3.2 ACRES, ONE LARGE PARCEL. AND NOW YOU'RE SUBDIVIDING THAT INTO TWO. YES, WE ARE SUBDIVIDING, BUT THE, THESE TWO PROPERTIES HAVE TWO PROPERTY IDS AND BEEN PAYING TAXES OVER 20 SOMETHING YEARS. THEY ALREADY BEEN TWO SEPARATE LOTS AND UN UNRECORDED SUBDIVISION, WHICH WE'RE JUST TRYING TO RECORD IT. 'CAUSE IT'S ALREADY TWO LOTS. IT, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE SPINNING A LOTS, WHICH WHEN YOU DO A PLAT FROM A, I JUST DID A PLAT RECENTLY FROM A PROPERTY THAT DIDN'T HAVE TWO PROPERTY IDS, SO I HAD TO MAKE TWO PROPERTY IDS ON A PLAT. BUT THIS HAS TWO PROPER IDS, TWO DIFFERENT LOTS, LOT 88, LOT 89. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT PROPORTIONATE. WE WAIVED OR, OR SEE, UNDERSTAND, SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND, AND JUST PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT DOES, THEY CAN ASSIGN PROPERTY IDS WITHOUT HAVING IT PLATTED. AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THEY DID. THAT'S A DIFFERENT TREATMENT THAN HOW THE COUNTY PLATING ORDINANCES WORK OR PLATTING REGULATIONS WORK. SO I, I APPRECIATE THE SPOT YOU'RE IN. I REALLY DO. AND I, I THINK WE NEED TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION HERE. YES, SIR. BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO THE COURT THE REASON WE HAVE, BECAUSE MY FIRST QUESTION TO ERICA WAS, WHY ARE WE DEALING WITH THIS? WELL, BECAUSE THE DEED INTO MR. CHAVEZ, CORRECT? YES, SIR. DEED INTO MR. CHAVEZ WAS 3.2 ACRES OR SOMETHING. AND NOW, EVEN THOUGH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT'S BEEN TREATING IT AS TWO LOTS, AND WHEN HE BOUGHT IT, THE GUY SHOWED HIM A PLAT THAT WAS NEVER RECORDED, THAT SHOWED TWO LOTS. UM, HE GOT A, A DEED FOR 3.2 ACRES AND NOW HE'S SUBDIVIDING IT. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS. UM, AND GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE MORE, SIR? AND, AND I'LL BUILD HOUSES. SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. EITHER I'M TRYING TO SUBD DEVICE SO I CAN BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE, WHICH IS GONNA BENEFIT ROCKWELL COUNTY ALSO BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GONNA BUY AND SOMEBODY'S GONNA MOVE IN. SOMEBODY'S GONNA PAY TAXES ON IT, JUST LIKE IT'S BEEN PAYING TAXES ON IT FOR ALL THESE YEARS BECAUSE IT'S A UNRECORDED SUBDIVISION. ALL THE LOTS ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL, SAME SIZE LOTS. BUT LIKE THIS ONE, LIKE HE'S SAYING, IT WAS ONE IN MEETS AND BOUNDS WAS 3.27 ACRES, AND WE JUST DIVIDED TO WHERE, WHERE THE COUNTY ALL THE REQUIREMENTS WAS WERE IN THERE. SO IT HAS TO BE 1.64 ON EACH SIDE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO WAIVE THE, THE PROPORT BECAUSE I, AS I'VE KNOWN, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S PLOTTED HAS PAID THAT MENT. I'LL PROBABLY BE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES IF I PAY. UNDERSTOOD. BUT IF, IF WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT DIFFERENT THAN THOSE AMOUNTS THAT I GOT, UH, I MEAN, I CAN PROBABLY DO SOMETHING WITH THAT. BUT AS A SMALL BUILDER, I MEAN, TO PAY THAT AMOUNT AND THEN TRY TO SELL A HOUSE IN ROY CITY THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT UNDERSTOOD. YES, SIR. AND, AND WE'RE DEALING WITH A SITUATION HERE. WE'VE NEVER HAD A COUNTY ENGINEER BEFORE. YES, SIR. AND, UM, I KNOW I'VE HAD OTHER SITUATIONS IN PRECINCT THREE, UH, WHERE, UM, PLATS WERE RECORDED, MAYBE OR NOT RECORDED, AND ROADS WERE NOT DEDICATED THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEDICATED. AND WE'RE, THERE'S, WE RUN INTO CLEANUP SITUATIONS LIKE THIS AND, AND COURT. LET ME MAKE, I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION HERE. UH, FRANKLY, UM, ERICA DID HER JOB. SHE DID EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S SUPPOSED TO DO, WHICH IS TO LAY OUT, GO BY THE RULES AND ALL THIS MM-HMM . UH, WE'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO GO BY THE RULES. I'M NOT, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT THE WAY IT SOUNDED , BUT SHE DID HER JOB AND SHE LAID THIS OUT. AND WE'VE GOT THREE ITEMS WHICH GENERATE COSTS. UM, WE HAVE, AND THIS GOES BACK TO THE 16 ITEMS THAT WERE APPROVED IN FEBRUARY OF 2024 FOR INFRASTRUCTURE APPORTIONMENT. THE THREE THAT ARE GENERATING THE COST IS SCHOOLS, WHICH IS $75,591. ROADS, WHICH IS 5,000 168 57. AND THEN POLICE, WHICH IS 1000 847 57. AND I'VE, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS STREET. WHEN [00:40:01] I WAS, UH, RUNNING FOR OFFICE, I WALKED DOWN THIS STREET A COUPLE TIMES, KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS. IT'S CLOSE THERE BY POETRY ROAD RIGHT OFF 5 48. YES, SIR. UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF HOMES BUILT IN THERE. HE'S TRYING TO ADD ONE BECAUSE IN A PRIOR SIT, PREVIOUS SITUATION, WHICH WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH, WE WERE CONFRONTED WITH A CHALLENGE TO APPORTIONMENT, AND WE AGREED TO WAIVE THE SCHOOL APPORTIONMENT IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE. ONLY, UH, GIVEN THE FACTS HERE THAT THIS WAS NOT PROPERLY PLATTED, THAT THERE'S SOME ISSUE, WHE WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNTY ACTUALLY, UM, APPROVED IT OR DIDN'T APPROVE IT. THE PLAT WAS NEVER FILED, AND HE'S IN THIS SITUATION. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE TO THE COURT THAT WE CONSIDER WAIVING THE APPORTIONMENT FEE FOR THE SCHOOLS, UM, FOR ROADS AND POLICE, SIR, I, THAT'S JUST PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE TALKED TO OUR ENGINEER ABOUT IS MAKING SURE THAT ROAD'S ROUGH. IT'S A BAD ROAD. IT'S NOT IN THE CONDITION WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE IN. YES, SIR. AND I'VE TALKED TO THE ENGINEER ABOUT, UH, TAKING SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED THIS YEAR AND TRYING TO DO THAT ROAD ALSO TO REPAIR IT. BUT THIS, THE ROAD APPORTIONMENT IS PART OF OUR LEGAL REGULATIONS. AND IN FACT, WE'VE JUST GONE THROUGH A LONG TWO YEAR PROCESS. YOU HEARD COMMISSIONER M**K TALK ABOUT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN OF, OF SETTING OUT RULES FOR HOW WE WANT OUR COUNTY TO OPERATE. AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT STRATEGIC PLAN, ASKING FOR THESE ROAD FEES. AND I'LL, I'LL READ IT TO YOU. IT'S STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER THREE. IN OPERATING INITIATIVE NUMBER FOUR. IT SAYS, TO CONDUCT A STUDY TO IDENTIFY COMPATIBLE LAND USE AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT GUIDELINES AND COST RESPONSIBILITY BURDEN, APPORTIONMENT WITHIN STATE LAW. AND WE HAVE THE, THAT'S WHAT STATE LAW PROVIDES AND ALLOWS US TO DO. AND SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. AND I DON'T REALLY WANNA BACK OFF THAT. WE HAVE CHANGED IT FOR SCHOOLS BEFORE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE WAIVE THE SCHOOL APPORTIONMENT FOR MR. CHAVEZ, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES WE'RE DEALING WITH, BUT WE WOULD MAINTAIN THE APPORTIONMENT FOR ROADS AND POLICE. MR. CHAVEZ, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT, UM, I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH, WITH THAT? YES, SIR. IF, IF YOU CAN WAIVE THE, THE SCHOOLS, 'CAUSE THAT'S THE HIGHEST ONE. AND, AND I THINK WE CAN, WE'LL BE GOOD WITH THE OTHERS. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, THEN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. WHERE ARE WE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR LOTS 88 AND 89, LOCATED IN THE CHAVEZ EDITION, CHISHOLM TRAILS NUMBER TWO. AND THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE APPORTIONMENT FEES ASSESSED BY OUR COUNTY ENGINEER IN HER LETTER OF NOVEMBER 7TH, 2025, UM, WITH THE EXCLUSION OF SCHOOLS THAT WE WAIVE BASED UPON THE CONDITIONS IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE AND THE PROBLEMS THAT WERE DONE WITH THE FILING OF THE PRIOR PLAT THAT WE WAIVE THE SCHOOL APPORTIONMENT FEE UNDER ITEM ONE. I SECOND HAVE ANY MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICK D SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US [10. Discuss/Act on approving a request from Farmers Electric Cooperative (FEC) to work within the ROW on Edwards Rd at pole 151834 which is 1423’ SE of FM 550 running underground service to new home located in Rockwall County, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)] TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A REQUEST FROM FARMER'S ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE TO WORK WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY ON EDWARDS ROAD AT COAL 1 5 1 8 3 4, WHICH IS 1,423 FEET SOUTHEAST OF FM FIVE 50, RUNNING UNDERGROUND SERVICE TO THE NEW HOME LOCATED IN ROCKWALL COUNTY AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. MS. ERICA? YES, SIR. UM, SO THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE COUNTY ROAD, UH, CROSSING AGREEMENT. UM, IT IS JUST A SINGLE SERVICE, APPROXIMATELY FOUR FEET IN DEPTH. UM, MY ONLY SUGGESTION IS GOING TO BE THAT WE SHOULD ALSO ADD THAT ADDENDUM THAT WAS ADDED, UH, TO THE LAST, UH, RIGHT OF WAY CROSSING AGREEMENT. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MAKES SENSE TO REQUIRE THE LINE MARKINGS AND THE INDEMNIFICATION. UM, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. OTHER THAN THAT, I, I RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND THEN ADDING THAT ADDENDUM. YEAH. AND ERICA, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR US TO JUST DO KIND OF A REFRESH ON THIS AGREEMENT. OKAY. I SENT YOU AN EMAIL YESTERDAY, AND [00:45:01] I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T IN THE OFFICE, BUT I SENT YOU NO, I, I SAW IT. YOU SAW IT? OKAY. YES, SIR. UM, APOLOGIES ABOUT THE SPELLING OF YOUR, YOUR NAME. NO, THAT'S FINE. IT WAS A DAY OFF. IT WAS A VETERAN'S DAY. UM, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY THAT YOU WEREN'T WORKING HARD. NO, YOU'RE GOOD. . UM, 'CAUSE YOU WORK VERY WELL. I WAS VOLUNTEERING YESTERDAY, SO I WAS WORKING HARD. BUT ANYWAY, I THINK WE SHOULD KIND OF DO A REFRESH ON THIS AGREEMENT AND INCORPORATE THAT ADDENDUM IN AS, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER THINGS I MENTIONED IN MY EMAIL. I THINK THE, THE AGREEMENT WORKS WITH THAT ADDENDUM. SO, UM, COURT, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ERICA, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST FROM FARMER'S ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE TO WORK WITH IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ON EDWARDS ROAD AT POLL 1 5 4 8 3 4, WHICH IS 1 4 2 3 FEET SOUTHEAST OF FM FIVE 50, RUNNING UNDERGROUND SERVICE TO A NEW HOME TO BE LOCATED IN ROCKWALL COUNTY, TEXAS, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE ADDENDUM, UM, REQUIRING, UH, LOCATION MARKINGS. CAN, CAN I YOUR MOTION THAT IT'S POLL 1 5 1 8 3 4. YOU SAY 1 5 4. OH, GOSH, YES. AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT YOU DID. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTI SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS BRINGS [11. Discuss/Act on approving a request from RCH Water Supply Corporation to approve Crossing Agreement in connection with C.R. 245 & Kuban Road Transmission Line for R.C.H. W.S.C. located in Rockwall County, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty) ] US TO AGENDA ITEM 11, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A REQUEST FROM RCH WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION TO APPROVE CROSSING AGREEMENT IN CONNECTION WITH CR 2 45 AND CUBAN ROAD TRANSMISSION LINE FOR R-C-H-W-S-C, LOCATED IN ROCKWALL COUNTY AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LICHTY, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A CROSSING AGREEMENT. UH, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE AGREEMENTS WE'RE APPROVING HERE, NOT JUST ONE BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THE ROAD THEY'RE WORKING ON. ERICA, I'LL YOU, IF YOU WANNA PROVIDE ANY EXPLANATION ON THIS. YES, SIR. UM, IT'S APPROXIMATELY TWO MILES. UM, I KNOW THE PLANS THAT WERE INCLUDED ALSO SHOWED SOME AREAS THAT RAN INTO KAUFMAN COUNTY AS WELL AS, UH, SOME OF THE TXDOT RIGHT OF WAY ON 5 48, BUT YOU'RE ONLY CONSIDERING THE CROSSINGS IN THE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY. SO, UM, THERE'S THREE CROSSINGS. IT'S A 20 INCH WATERLINE AND A 30 INCH CASING. UM, APPROXIMATELY SIX FOOT OF DEPTH. UM, AND I, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND, AGAIN, APPROVAL WITH INCLUDING THAT ADDENDUM IN OUR, IN OUR PACKET. UM, ERICA, UM, NUMBER FIVE, YOU, IT'S BEEN HIGHLIGHTED THAT THERE'S NO UNDERGROUND CROSSING OF A PAVED SURFACE. IS WAS THAT HIGHLIGHTED FOR OUR, OUR, FOR US JUST TO MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTOOD? YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY'S SO INCLINED. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST FROM RCH WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION TO APPROVE THREE CROSSING AGREEMENTS, WHICH WERE INCLUDED WITHIN OUR PACKAGE WITH THE ADDENDUM MENTIONED IN THE PRIOR MOTION, AND RECOMMENDED BY OUR COUNTY ENGINEER. HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. I'LL SECOND IT. SECOND RECOMME COMMISSIONER M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. IT [12. Discuss/Act on approving the Memorandum of Understanding with Meals on Wheels for the provision of service to County citizens in the interest of public welfare, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)] BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 12, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH MEALS ON WHEELS FOR THE PROVISION OF SERVICE TO COUNTY CITIZENS IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC WELFARE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LICHTY. UM, THANK YOU, JUDGE. ACTUALLY, WHAT I'M GONNA DO, WE HAVE ITEMS, UM, 12, 13, 14, 15, AND 16 ARE ALL DEALING WITH THE SAME TYPE OF PROJECT HERE. SO I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A GENERAL OUTLINE ABOUT ALL THREE OF 'EM AND THEN, OR ALL FIVE OF 'EM, AND WE CAN MAYBE JUST MOVE ONE AT A TIME THROUGH. UM, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THESE ARE, UH, AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE ENTERED INTO, WHICH PROVIDE FOR FUNDS TO WORTHY LOCAL, UH, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. UM, THE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST BECAUSE THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE, UH, ACCOMPLISHING OBJECTIVES FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR, OF OUR COUNTY AND OUR CITIZENS, WHICH BY THE WAY, IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER ONE, UM, IS TO PROMOTE TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY, UH, FOR THE FOUNDATION OF EFFECTIVE ROCKWELL COUNTY OPERATIONS, UH, ET CETERA. AND IT GOES ON TO OPERATING INITIATIVE NUMBER SIX, WHICH SAYS TO FIND WAYS TO BETTER INTEGRATE AND EXPAND THE ROLES OF EXISTING PUBLIC COMMITTEES AND REVIEW AND ENGAGE WITH OUTSIDE ENTITIES, WHICH WE'RE DOING HERE THAT CAN PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR UNFULFILLED NEEDS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. [00:50:01] ADDITIONALLY, IN, UM, STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER SIX, OPERATING INITIATIVE NUMBER SIX, IT SAYS WE SHOULD IMPROVE COUNTY HEALTH AND WELFARE OUTCOMES BY ENHANCING RELATIONSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY NONPROFITS THROUGH JOINT PLANNING EFFORTS AND INCREASING ACCESS TO RESOURCES, SERVICES, AND INFORMATION. SO WE'VE OUTLINED THESE THINGS THAT WE WANNA DO AS A COUNTY THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. THEY'RE DOING GOOD PURPOSES BECAUSE THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE PROVIDING GOOD SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS, OUR CITIZENS OF ROCKWALL COUNTY. UM, WE HAVEN'T DONE MOUS IN THE PAST, AND, UH, I WOULD APPLAUD, UH, THE AUDITOR FOR WORKING WITH ME TO GET THESE DONE. SHE'S REALLY, UH, AND, AND OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT, UH, OVER, UH, IN THE DA'S OFFICE. DERY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE ON THESE. UM, THE BENEFIT OF THESE NNO MOUS IN THE PAST, WE WOULD JUST MAKE GRANTS TO THE ORGANIZATIONS. AND NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A COUPLE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE SIGNIFICANT. FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE ASKING THE NGOS TO AGREE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT THEY WILL THROUGHOUT THE NEXT YEAR. AND SO IF YOU LOOK ON EACH OF THESE AGREEMENT, THERE'S AN ATTACHMENT A, WHICH OUTLINES THE SERVICES THAT THE ORGANIZATION WILL PROVIDE, AND THEN THEY AGREE THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE THOSE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. UH, THE SECOND THING THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY, I THINK IN THESE, UM, MOUS, IS THAT IT REQUIRES, UH, IF THERE IS A BREACH, IF FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE, UH, NGOS WOULD FAIL TO PERFORM THE SERVICES OR DISCONTINUE THE SERVICES, THEN WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECLARE THAT A BREACH AND ASK THEM TO REIMBURSE US FOR ANY UNEARNED UNEARNED PORTIONS OF THE GRANTS WE'VE GIVEN TO THEM. UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THEY'RE VERY SIMPLE. DERY DID A GREAT JOB OF DRAFTING 'EM APPRECIATES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND, UH, SO WITH THAT, WE, WE'VE GOT FIVE OF THESE TO DEAL WITH. UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MY INTRODUCTION OR ANY OF THE INDIVIDUAL ONES, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M READY TO START GOING. ANY, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON AGENDA ITEM 12, NOT SPECIFIC TO 12, JUST ONE OF THE QUES HE'S JUST MENTIONED. CAN WE JUST ASK A BROAD QUESTION? SURE. ABSOLUTELY. UM, I, I LOVE THIS. I'M, I'M REALLY VERY HAPPY BECAUSE IT DOES SUPPORT THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT IT ALSO REALLY KEEPS EVERYONE YOU, YOU KNOW, IN THE KNOW AND, AND, AND, AND FROM A TRANSPARENCY STANDPOINT. BUT ARE THERE ANY NONPROFITS THAT ARE NOT IN THIS FIRST ROUND? AND IT MAY BE THE FIRST ROUND THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE SUPPORTED IN THE PAST THAT WE ARE NOT DOING AN MOU TODAY ON? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. UH, IN FACT, THERE WAS A COUPLE HERE THAT WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS, I DIDN'T REALIZE WE'D SUPPORT IT. FOR EXAMPLE, HELPING HANDS, UH, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTING THEM SINCE MM-HMM . GEE, THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, BECAUSE I WAS ON THE BOARD THERE AND WE WOULD ALWAYS COME AND MAKE A PRESENTATION, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND GET A GRANT. BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY THAT ASKED FOR MONEY OR THAT WE'VE SUPPORTED IN THE PAST THAT WE DIDN'T. NO. UH, IN, UH, THE ANNUAL BUDGET, IN THE SECTION, ITS HEALTH AND WELFARE, THERE'S A LISTING OF ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE COUNTY, UH, PROVIDES FUNDS TO ANNUALLY. UM, THESE, UH, FIVE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE NOT LIKE BY STATUTE, AN EXTENSION OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER AGENCIES LISTED, UH, THAT RECEIVE FUNDS LIKE THE, UM, HISTORIC COMMISSION OR THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD. THEY'RE NOT ON HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE AN EXTENSION OF THE COUNTY THEMSELVES. SO THIS IS, THESE ARE THE ONLY FIVE THAT YOU'LL BE, UH, RECEIVING THIS SHEET. OKAY. AT THIS TIME. OKAY. I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY, MY QUESTION. 'CAUSE THERE WAS ONE THAT I DIDN'T SEE IN HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF STATUTE THAT, UM, AND THAT'S THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER, I BELIEVE. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND I'M, UH, UH, UH, NO, YOU WON'T BE RECEIVING ANYMORE. THESE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT WE REACHED OUT TO AND THE AGENCIES THEMSELVES, UH, WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UH, PUT IN THEIR EXHIBIT WHAT THEY WILL BE OFFERING, UH, FOR THEIR FUNDS. SO THEY WERE A PART OF THIS TOO. AND, UM, THEY WERE ALL VERY HELPFUL TO WORK WITH. AND I, I TOLD THEM THAT THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T NEED TO BE REPRESENTED HERE TODAY. SO I, I, I SEE MARGIE FROM MEALS ON WHEELS IS HERE, AND I THINK BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB GRACE CLINIC IS HERE. UH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE WERE TOLD, I, I TOLD THEM THAT IT WAS NOT NECESSARY. THIS IS MORE OF A, OKAY. UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WOULD GRACE CLINIC OR MEALS ON WHEELS WANNA SAY SOMETHING? I KNEW MARGIE WOULD. YEAH, I KNEW MARGIE WOULD THE AGENDA WE GOT AND KNOCK THEM DOWN. HELLO, MARGIE. HELLO, [00:55:01] JUDGE. NEW AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I JUST WANNA PERSONALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE VITAL SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE FOR THE ELDERLY AND DISABLED. AND WE ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT OUR NEXT CHAPTER. AS YOU KNOW, WE BROKE GROUND ON OUR NEW FACILITY AND IT WILL PROBABLY, UM, BE COMPLETED MAYBE AT THE END OF SUMMER OF 2026. WE WILL BE ABLE TO TRIPLE OUR SERVICES AND EVERYONE WILL BE WELCOME TO THE TABLE THERE AT OUR BEAUTIFUL SENIOR LIFE CENTER. AND THE HEART OF THE FACILITY WILL BE THE BIG COMMERCIAL KITCHEN TO PROVIDE NUTRITION. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MARGIE. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT DILIGENTLY FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW, SO CONGRATULATIONS THAT, ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS SEPARATE ITEMS, SO WE HAVE TO SET 'EM UP AND KNOCK 'EM DOWN AS SEPARATE ITEMS. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON AGENDA ITEM 12. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MOU WITH MEALS ON WHEELS FOR THE PROVISION OF SERVICE COUNTY CITIZENS AND INTEREST OF PUBLIC WELFARE. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. I WILL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LTE. IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT BRINGS US [13. Discuss/Act on approving the Resolution and Memorandum of Understanding with Helping Hands for the provision of service to County citizens in the interest of public welfare, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)] TO AGENDA ITEM 13, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE RESOLUTION AND MEMORANDUM UNDERSTANDING WITH HELPING HANDS FOR THE PROVISION OF SERVICE TO COUNTY CITIZENS IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC WELFARE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LTE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF YOU'RE SO INCLINED. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT. GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. I WILL SECOND THAT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. BRINGS [14. Discuss/Act on approving the Resolution and Memorandum of Understanding with Boys & Girls Club for the provision of service to County citizens in the interest of public welfare, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)] US TO AGENDA ITEM 14, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE RESOLUTION AND MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB FOR THE PROVISION OF SERVICE TO COUNTY CITIZENS IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC WELFARE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LTY, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTY. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTE SET PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT [15. Discuss/Act on approving the Resolution and Memorandum of Understanding with Grace Clinic for the provision of service to County citizens in the interest of public welfare, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)] BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 15, DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING THE RESOLUTION AND MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH GRACE CLINIC FOR THE PROVISION OF SERVICE TO COUNTY CITIZENS IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC WELFARE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LICHTY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT WE APPROVE THE, THE RESOLUTION MEMORANDUM AND UNDERSTANDING WITH GRACE CLINIC FOR THE PROVISION OF SERVICE TO THE COUNTY CITIZENS IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC WELFARE. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GANA, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT BRINGS US TO [16. Discuss/Act on approving the Resolution and Memorandum of Understanding with Lonestar CASA for the provision of service to County citizens in the interest of public welfare, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)] AGENDA ITEM 16, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE RESOLUTION AND MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH LONE STAR CASA FOR THE PROVISION OF SERVICE TO COUNTY CITIZENS IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC WELFARE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LICHTY, I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THAT. GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. I'LL OH, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACEY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT BRINGS US TO [17. Discuss/Act on approval of a principal amount of bonds to be issued as part of the first issuance of the Rockwall County TRIP 21 Road Bonds, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)] AGENDA ITEM 17, DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVAL OF A PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF BONDS TO BE ISSUED AS PART OF THE FIRST ISSUANCE OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY TRIP. 21 ROAD BONDS AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LTE, THIS ONE WILL SLOW US DOWN JUST A BIT. I THINK , THAT'S WHY WE, UH, WE PROBABLY SHOULD TAKE A BREAK AND GET SOME COFFEE , BUT WE'RE CLOSE TO BEING DONE. I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU ALL WANNA DO? LET'S KEEP ROLLING. I'LL KEEP ROLLING. OKAY, LET'S KEEP ROLLING. FINE WITH ME. OKAY. ITEM 17. SO WE, ON OCTOBER, WE'VE BEEN, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR TO IDENTIFY ROADS THAT WE CAN ISSUE BONDS ON. AND THIS COURT HAS MADE THIS AN ITEM OF PRIORITY FOR US. AND IN OCTOBER, ON OCTOBER 14TH, WE APPROVED A PRELIMINARY, UH, RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZED OUR STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND START WORKING ON THIS PROJECT AND APPROVED A TIMELINE FROM OUR BOND CONSULTANT, WHICH LAID OUT THE DATES FOR EVERYTHING. UM, WHICH BY THE WAY, I'LL SAY FOR THE RECORD, WE ASKED THEM FOR, TO GIVE US A TIMELINE TO DO IT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. I KNOW I'VE HAD A BUNCH OF, SEVERAL QUESTIONS RAISED BY RESIDENTS IN MY PRECINCT AND ELSEWHERE ON THE TIMING AND COULD IT BE DONE FASTER OR SLOWER? UH, WE ASKED OUR CONSULTANTS TO, TO PROVIDE US THIS TIMELINE SO WE COULD GET IT DONE QUICKLY. THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. SO THAT'S WHAT WAS APPROVED. WE APPROVED THAT IN OCTOBER. NOW, UM, WE'VE SINCE THEN BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL MEETINGS. WE HAD A WORKSHOP OCTOBER 29TH, WAS IT, I THINK JOHN. AND, UM, WE AT THAT POINT LAID OUT OUR PRIORITY LIST. OUR CONSULTANT ITS, JOHN POLLSTER, WHO'S KIND ENOUGH TO COME HERE AND SPEND THE MORNING WITH US, GAVE [01:00:01] US THIS LIST. AND WE'VE DONE THROUGH MULTIPLE ITERATIONS OF THIS, WHICH LAYS OUT THE PRIORITIES AND THE FUNDING FOR THE FIRST ISSUANCE OF BONDS FROM THIS TRIP 21 BOND PROGRAM. THIS IS NOT A RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO, UH, APPROVE THE ONE, WE'RE THE ONE THAT THE ULTIMATE FINAL RESOLUTION THAT HA THAT SAYS GO IS GONNA BE DONE IN JANUARY 13TH, WHICH IS CALLED A PARAMETER RESOLUTION, WHICH SETS OUT THE PARAMETER FOR THE BONDS. BUT THE REASON THAT I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP. AND I DID IT IN CON AFTER DISCUSSING THIS WITH, UH, JOHN POLLSTER AND COMMISSIONER STACY, UH, WAS BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE. I THINK WE ARE. UM, THIS $50 MILLION WOULD PROVIDE FUNDING WITH ABOUT THREE OR MILLION OR SO OF EXTRA FUNDS FOR THINGS THAT COULD COME UP IN THE FIRST ISSUANCE FOR THOSE PRIORITIES THAT ARE LAID OUT ON, UH, MR. POLLSTER'S SPREADSHEET HERE. UM, AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD FOR US TO SIT DOWN AND SAY, YEP, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THE 50 MILLION BONDS. IF SOMETHING CAME UP BETWEEN NOW AND SOMETIME IN DECEMBER, WE COULD ADJUST THIS. BUT I THINK THERE'S A DATE IN DECEMBER, IF I REMEMBER. I DON'T HAVE THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF ME, BUT BY WHICH THEY SAID, YOU GOTTA GIVE US A FIRM NUMBER BY THIS DATE. AND THAT'S LIKE DECEMBER, EARLY DECEMBER. SO I THOUGHT, LET'S JUST GET IT TAKEN CARE OF AND GET IT DONE. I THINK EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING FABULOUSLY AS A COMMISSIONER'S COURT WITH A COMMON OBJECTIVE, WHICH IS TO ISSUE BONDS AND, AND CREATE BOND AND BUILD ROADS. SO THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT FORWARD. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER LICHTY. AND YEAH, THE, THE, THE WORK HAS CULMINATING INTO THIS DOCUMENT . YEAH. SO, UH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T, UH, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET ANY ARGUMENT. THE ARGUMENT'S OVER, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE, THE PROJECTS AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHAT IT'S GONNA COST AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE TIMING OF BONDS, WHICH YEP. AND, AND, AND WHAT THIS DOES, THERE'S TWO, ACTUALLY THERE'S A SECOND THING THIS DOES IN THE FIRST RESOLUTION, UM, WHICH WE RECEIVED FROM, UM, FROM OUR BOND COUNCIL, AND WHICH I DIDN'T NOTICE, UH, IT SAID THAT THESE WERE 20, 25 SERIES BONDS. THEY'RE ACTUALLY 2026 BECAUSE THEY'LL BE ISSUED NEXT YEAR. AND SO THAT CHANGES THAT ALSO. BUT IT JUST APPROVES THE 50 MILLION IN BONDS AND, UH, RECHANGE AND CHANGES THE DESIGNATION TO AMEND IT TO BE A 2026 SERIES. UM, UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I DON'T HAVE REALLY A QUESTION FOR THE, THE COURT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF, IF MR. POLLSTER WOULD COME UP AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S ON HERE 'CAUSE IT, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE, THAT WE COVERED ALL OF IT. I KNOW THERE'S EXTRA MONEY IN THERE, AS YOU JUST SAID. AND THERE'S SOME, UM, OF OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT WITHIN EACH ONE OF US THAT WE DIDN'T, NOT EVERYONE GAVE IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE MYSELF FOR MY, FOR PRECINCT TWO, I DIDN'T IDENTIFY ANY SPECIAL PROJECT FOR THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF REALLY WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING IDENTIFIED. SO, SO ON THE SPREADSHEET YOU HAVE AT THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S TWO NUMBERS FOR TRIP 21. ONE IS FOR, UH, ALLOCATING OF THE FUNDS FOR THOSE PROJECTS. AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND COLUMN OF TRIP 21 WHERE WE'RE TRANSFERRING AS THE TWO COMMISSIONERS PROPOSED IN OUR WORKSHOP. AND THEN, UH, SO THAT, THAT RAISED IT FROM THE 35 TO ROUGHLY 46. TYPICALLY WHEN YOU DO A BOND ISSUANCE, YOU LIKE TO HAVE ROUND NUMBERS. SO 50 MILLION IS A ROUND NUMBER 'CAUSE WE CAN'T GO BELOW TO 45. AND THE DIFFERENCE WOULD JUST BE PUT INTO PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. SO IF SOMETHING COMES UP BETWEEN NOW AND WHENEVER Y'ALL DECIDE TO ISSUE IN THE FUTURE, YOU'LL HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR UNFORESEEN ISSUES. SO THIS REPRESENTS EVERYTHING THAT I, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND THEN HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT HAD MODIFICATIONS. AND IT SHOULD BE ACCURATE. I NEVER SAY ANYTHING DEFINITIVELY IS ACCURATE. UM, JOHN, THANKS FOR COMING THIS MORNING. YES, SIR. AND FOR THE EXPLANATION. I DO, UM, I ACTUALLY JUST WANNA, PROBABLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE LISTENING AND FOR THE COURT AND EVERYONE HERE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THIS IS OUR FIRST ISSUANCE. WE CAN ISSUE MORE BONDS. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 150 MILLION. BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN GET THESE THINGS DONE, THESE PROJECTS NOW AND START MOVING, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MONEY SITTING. WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE 'EM ALL FORWARD. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE DIDN'T DO MORE, IS WE THOUGHT THIS IS ABOUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN RIGHT NOW. CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO WHAT I TRY TO DO IS, WHEN Y'ALL GIVE US THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT YOU WANT TO DO, WE TRY TO GIVE YOU THE ANSWER BACK ON HOW MUCH YOU NEED FOR THAT. AND I'M LOOKING OUT ABOUT ANOTHER [01:05:01] TWO YEARS, OR IT COULD BE SOONER, BUT I, I LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA NEED FOR ADVANCED PLANNING OR WHATEVER, AND I GAVE YOU THOSE NOTES. SO IT ONLY ISSUES WHAT YOU NEED TO GET STARTED WITH RIGHT NOW. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT REQUIRE ENGINEERING, WE STILL HAVE A, UH, LIST OF FIRMS THAT'S RELATIVELY NEW. SO THE SPEED WILL BE THERE. WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR AN RFQ TO GET FIRMS SELECTED. WE CAN JUST USE THAT, THAT EVERGREEN LIST THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY EXISTING. SO YES, IT WILL BE STUFF WE'RE GONNA START RIGHT NOW AND ONLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW. I I WOULD LIKE A CLARIFICATION TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION FOR PEOPLE SITTING AT HOME. THE, THE WORD RIGHT NOW, HAS DIFFERENT MEANING TO, TO YOUR AVERAGE CITIZEN THAN IT DOES TO TDOT AGREE, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW TO TDOT MAY BE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, DOG EARS, PEOPLE YEARS TEXT. YEAH. I MEAN THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT'S IT. JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. BUT IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT, THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT NOW WILL BE LATER. CORRECT? CORRECT. THIS IS AS RIGHT NOW AS, AS WE CAN GET ON THE RECORD. YEAH. YEAH. AND SO FOR BENEFIT OF, UH, OF THE COURT AND EVERYONE LISTENING, AND ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER M**K, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IN MORE PLACES THAN I COULD HAVE ESPOUSED THIS MORNING. YEAH. ALL OF THEM . YEAH. IS THERE, IS THERE MONEY INCLUDED FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ON THE, UM, ON THE LOOP IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD? SO HOW DO WE COME ACROSS THAT MONEY LATER THEN WE HAVE TO ISSUE MORE BOND. TO DO THAT, WE'D HAVE TO ISSUE MORE BONDS. OKAY. AND SO, WHICH WHICH WE CAN DO. YES, I WAS GONNA SAY, SO THE FIRST ISSUANCE, WHEN YOU GO OUT FOR YOUR FIRST ISSUANCE, YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR BOND RATINGS AND RATING AGENCIES. AND THAT'S A COST, THAT'S A BUILT IN COST. BUT THAT AGENCY RATING LASTS FOR THE THREE YEAR PERIOD. SO THE SECOND AND THIRD TIME YOU GO OUT, AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME, IT'S RELATIVELY INSIGNIFICANT. CAUSE TO GO BACK OUT TO THE MARKET FOR THAT. FOR THE SECOND AND THIRD ONES. IT IS, THIS IS TIME. YES, SIR. IT'S ANOTHER FOUR MONTHS OF WAITING. ALL RIGHT. WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, COULD I, COULD I RESPOND TO THAT? OH, YOU CERTAINLY CAN. PLEASE. AND THEN, THEN I'M GONNA HURT US INTO A MOTION AFTER YOU RESPOND TO THAT. SOONER OR LATER, WE'LL GET THERE. YEAH. AND I AM SMILING, BUT I'M NOT, UM, I , UH, JUST FOR, FOR, TO KEEP THE COURT UP TO SPEED. UH, MR. POLLSTER AND I HAVE MET WITH HALF CONSULTANTS. WE'VE HAD TWO MEETINGS SINCE OUR LAST WORKSHOP ON OCTOBER 29TH. AND WE'VE GOT TAKEAWAYS WE'RE WORKING ON TO TRY AND MOVE FORWARD TO TRY AND GET, UH, IN FACT, I'VE MET WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER, UH, UH, ALANA, ALSO ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, SOME ASSISTANCE YOU'RE GONNA BE GIVING US AND WORKING TO TRY AND DEVELOP A SET OF GOALS AND PARAMETERS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MOVE TOWARD THAT VOTE. WHATEVER COMES. AND THIS, AND THIS ALSO DOES HAVE THE FUNDS NEEDED FOR THE, UM, THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. WE PUT SOME, PUT SOME OF THAT IN HERE TOO. YEAH. YES, SIR. JUST FOR, FOR THE PEOPLE LISTENING. YES, IT DOES. YES, IT DOES. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY IS SO INCLINED. UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, UM, AS AMENDED BY BOND COUNSEL. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYONE. IT'S BEEN A THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ELECT. IT'S BEEN A LONG SCENIC PATH TO GET HERE, BUT WE DID GET HERE. UM, AGENDA [18. Discuss/Act on amending the County Travel Policy to update the per diem amount according to the U.S. General Services Administration (GSA) published rate, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)] ITEM 18, DISCUSS AND ACT ON AMENDING THE COUNTY TRAVEL POLICY TO UPDATE THE PER DIEM AMOUNT ACCORDING TO THE US GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION, PUBLISHED RATE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. UH, COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS JUST THE GSA PUBLISHED NEW RATES, AND IT'S BEEN OUR STANDARD PROCEDURE TO ADOPT THEM AS AS THEY COME OUT. SO THIS IS THE, THE DAILY PER DIEM, BASIC AMOUNTS CHANGED. BREAKFAST, LUNCH, DINNER, UM, NOTHING, NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY HERE. UM, GOT A COMMENT. UH, I LOOKED AT THIS TRAVEL POLICY, AND IF EVER TURN EVERYONE TO PAGE FIVE OF IT. UM, THE SECOND PARAGRAPH UNDER THE AIRFARE HEADING, IT SAYS, IF IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO TRAVEL A DAY EARLY, SUCH AS A SATURDAY IN ORDER TO GET A DISCOUNTED AIRFARE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, WELL, SHOULDN'T THAT REALLY BE A DAY EARLY OR A DAY LATE? IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU CAN SAVE MONEY, WHAT THIS SAYS IS IF YOU SAVE MORE MONEY BY SPENDING ANOTHER NIGHT ON YOUR AIRFARE, THEN DO IT. UM, AND THAT COULD ALSO BE COME HOME A DAY LATE. RIGHT. I AGREE WITH THAT. IF, IF IT SAVES MONEY, I MEAN, IF, IF THE COST IS, IF THE COST OF STAYING IN THE HOTEL IS LESS THAN THE COST OF TRAVELING ON A SPECIFIC DAY, THEN YEAH. AND WE DO, WE CONTEMPLATED [01:10:01] FOR TRAVELING EARLY. LIKE WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT THERE, I DON'T THINK TO A CONFERENCE. I DON'T THINK WE CONTEMPLATED FOR COMING BACK. AND I'M JUST SAYING IF WE COULD AMEND THAT TO SAY IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO TRAVEL A DAY EARLY INSERT OR A DAY LATE. LET'S SEE HOW THIS IS AMENDING THE POLICY. YEAH. SO WE CAN, WE CAN AMEND THAT RIGHT NOW. UHHUH , LISA HASN'T TURNED HER RED LIGHT ON YET. , I, I, I, I UNDERSTAND. UH, I I BELIEVE IT'S USUALLY BECAUSE SATURDAY IS THE CHEAPER DAY TO FLY THAN SUNDAY. UM, SO I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT. BUT YOU'RE CORRECT THAT IF THE CONFERENCE ENDS ON FRIDAY AND IT'S CHEAPER TO FLY ON SATURDAY, THAT COULD ALSO BE A SCENARIO. SO THAT'S FINE. WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE. . ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL, SHE, SHE DIDN'T WANT ANOTHER JOHN STACEY ON COURT, BUT YET HERE SHE'S . OH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AMEND THE COUNTY TRAVEL POLICY AS PROVIDED TO US WITH ONE ADDITIONAL CHANGE ON PAGE FIVE TO INSERT THE LANGUAGE, OR A DAY LATE AFTER THE LANGUAGE A DAY EARLY. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TY. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE DISCUSSION THAT DOES INCLUDE THE UPDATING OF THE PER DIEM 'CAUSE THAT'S WRITTEN IN THERE. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE, I SAID, AS PRESENTED TO US. OKAY. PERFECT. YEAH. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. FULL REGISTER OUR VOTES NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. THIS BRINGS US [19. Discuss/Act on approving the installation of a new cellular fire alarm communicator at the Adult Probation facility at a cost of $698.00, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)] TO AGENDA ITEM 19. DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW CELLULAR FIRE ALARM COMMUNICATOR AT THE ADULT PROBATION FACILITY AT A COST OF $698 IN ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BARRY. YOU CAN COME TELL US ABOUT IT. UH, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM'S GOING TO BE THE MONITORING OF THIS, OF THIS SYSTEM. WE ALREADY MONITOR THIS SYSTEM. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ADDING, IT'S JUST THAT THIS IS STILL DONE ON, UM, YOU KNOW, PHONE LINES THAT ARE STARTING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS, UM, COMMUNICATING WITH THE MONITORING SERVICE. SO THE, UM, COMPANY RECOMMENDED TO GO TO THIS CELLULAR NEWER VERSION, AND THAT COMES WITH A DIFFERENT CONTRACT FOR THE MONITORING THAT IS SLIGHTLY MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW. I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, JUST UPGRADING THEM TO BE A, A TAD MORE MODERN AND HOPEFULLY BETTER. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BARRY? IF NOT, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW CELLULAR FIRE ALARM COMMUNICATOR AT THE ADULT PROBATION FACILITY AT A COST OF $698. SECOND. GOT MY MOTION. GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GALANA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW. THANK YOU. PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA [20. Discuss/Act on approving alarm monitoring services agreement for the Adult Probation facility at an annual cost of $660.00, and all related issues; (Judge New – Auditor)] ITEM 20, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING ALARM MONITORING SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE ADULT PROBATION FACILITY AT AN ANNUAL COST OF $660. BARRY ALREADY SUMMARIZED IT. UH, DERY YOU, YOU WANNA COME FORWARD? THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A WHILE. OH, OKAY. THIS IS ALREADY ON. YOU'RE WELCOME. I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO THE COURT'S ATTENTION WHENEVER I WAS REVIEWING THE BACKUP BEFORE I KNOW SHERRY THIS MORNING, I CHECKED WITH HER. SHE HAS ALL THE MOST RECENT, UH, CORRECT VERSIONS OF THE ADDENDUMS THAT WE HAVE CREATED TO GO ALONG WITH SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS. THE REASON I'M STEPPING UP HERE IS NOT ONLY IS THERE AN ADDENDUM THAT I DON'T THINK WAS IN THE BACK OF ORIGINALLY ON NUMBER 20, UM, BUT THAT THEY HAVE AGREED TO. THERE'S A FEW ADDENDUMS, I BELIEVE ALSO IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND I KNOW THAT GOES REALLY QUICKLY. SO I JUST, I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO POINT OUT THAT I NEEDED TO SPEAK ABOUT ONE ITEM ON THERE, ITEM G WHENEVER TIME IS RIGHT. GOT IT. SO UNDER, UH, ITEM 20, THERE'S AN ADDENDUM FOR THAT THAT WE DON'T HAVE. UH, ON, ON AGENDA ITEM 20, THE ARE MONITORING WHAT PAGE? UM, I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS IN YOUR BACKUP WHENEVER I CHECKED ONLINE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UH, SHERRY HAS A COPY OF IT FOR WHENEVER THE COURT APPROVES IT. UH, THE, THE ACTUAL ADDENDUM. I I ONLY HAVE ONE COPY WITH ME. WELL, THAT, THAT'S OKAY IF YOU COULD SUMMARIZE IT FOR US. OH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. UH, IT'S, IT'S TWO STANDARD PROVISIONS THAT WE ALWAYS INCLUDE, UH, OR WE TRY TO GET INCLUDED WITH ALL AGREEMENTS. UH, AND IN THIS ONE, IT'S BASICALLY THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT UNDER OUR TEXAS CONSTITUTION THAT WE CANNOT INDEMNIFY ANY OTHER PARTY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT THEY HAVE AGREED TO. UH, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, AN APPROPRIATIONS CLAUSE. 'CAUSE IT WAS A MULTI-YEAR TERM AGREEMENT. AND SO THAT'S THE TWO ITEMS ADDRESSED. AND OF COURSE, ALL, ALWAYS THE ADDENDUM STATE THAT IN THE EVENT OF A CONFLICT, OUR ADDENDUM CONTROLS. GOT IT. [01:15:01] GOT IT. SO THE ADDENDUM ELIMINATES THAT INDEMNITY PROVISION OF SECTION 16? THAT'S CORRECT. BECAUSE IT, IT CONTROLS GREAT. ONE, ONE THOUGHT I HAD JUST FOR AS LONG AS YOU'RE UP HERE, AND I'M, I NOT GONNA HOLD THIS UP OVER IT, BUT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS DOES IS IN SECTION 11, IT'S GOT KIND OF A UNUSUAL PROVISION THAT IF THEY GET TOO MANY FALSE ALARMS, THEY CAN TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT, WHICH OKAY, GREAT. IF THEY WANT TO, I DOUBT THEY WOULD, BUT IF THEY WANT TO. BUT IF THEY DO, THEY SHOULD GIVE US A PRO RATA REFUND IF THEY NEGLECT TO TERMINATE IT. SO I DON'T HAVE THE AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF ME MAKE CHANGE TO THIS. BUT YEAH, IN THE FUTURE, A LOT OF TIMES WE DO SEEK, UM, TO GET, UH, A PROVISION IN THERE THAT STATES THAT WE WERE ONLY GONNA PAY FOR SERVICES RENDERED UP INTO AND INCLUDING THE TERMINATION DATE. UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS ONE. I THINK THIS ONE'S ONE THAT CRAIG PRIMARILY WORKED ON. UM, AND THERE MAY HAVE BEEN NO, NO, NOT TO THROW AT HIM. WE WE'RE NOT ALWAYS ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY NEGOTIATE EVERY PROVISION THAT WE WANT IN AN AGREEMENT. SURE. BUT WE DEFINITELY TRY TO GET THE ONES THAT ARE SUPER IMPORTANT, SUCH AS INDEMNITY AND APP APPROPRIATIONS. UM, I'M NOT SURE. I'M JUST SAYING OF THE HISTORY OF NEGOTIATION WITH THIS. TOTALLY GET IT. AND FOR $660 A YEAR, I'M NOT GONNA, LIKE I SAY, HOLD IT UP. I'M GLAD YOU GOT THE INDEMNITY. THANKS SO MUCH. YEAH, NO PROBLEM. AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GONNA MAKE IT, WAIT A MINUTE, JUDGE, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE? YOU CERTAINLY CAN. I'M SORRY. UM, I JUST WANNA CONFIRM THE, UM, LIKE ITEM NUMBER 19 THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, AND THEN THIS ONE, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY WORDING IN HERE LIKE WE DO DOWN BELOW IN THE CONSENT AGENDA WHEN IT SAYS, UM, APPROVED DURING THE FY 2026 BUDGET PROCESS. SO AM I TO ASSUME THAT THE TWO ITEMS, THE ITEM WE JUST APPROVED, AND THEN THIS ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR $660 WAS NOT PART OF THE FY 26 BUDGET? THAT IS A CORRECT ASSUMPTION. THIS IS CHANGING. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I LOOKED FOR AND I COULDN'T FIND IT, SO I WASN'T SURE. BUT WHAT I, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS JUST FOR A QUICK MOMENT IF I CAN WITH THE AUDITOR AND, AND, AND YOU GUYS HERE ON THE COURT, WOULD, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF A, FROM A TRANSPARENCY STANDPOINT ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO CREATE SOME KIND OF A RUNNING LIST SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, NEXT YEAR WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON THE FY 27 BUDGET, WE CAN LOOK AT THE ITEMS THAT CAME UP DURING THE YEAR THAT WE ALL AGREED THAT THEY WERE NECESSARY AND WE VOTED FOR 'EM, BUT WE THEN KNOW THE AMOUNT SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF BEGIN TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DILIGENT WHEN WE'RE, UM, WE'RE REVIEWING FYI 27. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY TO DO, THAT'S IT'S US AND AND YOU RECEIVE IT, IT'S THE SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS THAT YOU RECEIVE ANNUALLY AT, UH, THAT I THINK THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS MADE THAT THEY WERE NOT SENT TO YOU DURING THE BUDGET TIME, BUT THEY WERE, NO, WE, WE, WE DISTRIBUTE PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES OF ALL THE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE GO ALONG ANNUALLY. UH, THIS ONE CAME UP BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME, UH, THERE WAS A FLAW GOING ON WITH THE, UH, THE SERVICE THAT WE HAD HAD, AND THEN WE WERE UPDATING IT MM-HMM . FOR, TO THE CELLULAR THING FOR, FOR A BETTER, BETTER SERVICE TO US. SO YEAH, THAT'S WHY IT CAME IN FRONT OF YOU AND NOT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. YEAH. I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER M**K IS, IS REQUESTING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR AND, AND, AND JUST TO SEE HOW MANY THINGS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET MM-HMM . THAT, THAT WE TRULY DIDN'T THINK OF. WE DIDN'T ALLOCATE MONEY FOR IT AND, AND SHOWED UP ANYWAY. AND WE DECIDED, YES, WE NEED TO DO THIS. RIGHT. A AND, AND THEN IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE, WE WOULD INCLUDE THE WORDING GOING FORWARD WITH ANYTHING THAT WAS IN A, IN A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER. WE INCLUDE THE, THE WORDING, JUST LIKE WE ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT SAYS APPROVED DURING THE FY OF 2026 BUDGET PROCESS. AND IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF WE DON'T SEE IT IN HERE, THEN AT LEAST WE CAN, WE CAN ALL MAKE SURE WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE PROVING THAT EATING CONTINGENCY. AND, AND THEN, AND THEN IF THERE IS A RUNNING, YOU KNOW, TYPE WAY THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE THAT TO US, LISA, FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. THEY ARE ALL ACCUMULATED TOGETHER IN THE NEXT YEAR. SO IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD PREFER US TO PUT A DATE ON WHEN YOU STARTED THAT AGREEMENT, THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING WE COULD INCLUDE. OKAY. SO I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS ALREADY BEING DONE IS THAT IF IT'S A DISCUSS ACT, IT'S SOMETHING NEW. IF IT'S IN THE CONSENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD, THAT YOU WANTED YOUR AGREEMENTS CORRECT. TO BE PUT ON CONSENT AND WE'RE STIPULATING FY 26. BUT, SO THAT'S MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING. NO, THEN, THEN, THEN I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BE UP TO US OR WHOEVER, UM, REPLACES FELICIA. THAT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT COULD KEEP, THAT COULD BE A REPORT THAT COULD BE CREATED TO KEEP US SO THAT I'M NOT TRYING TO DO IT MYSELF, UM, FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT. [01:20:02] GOT IT. IF YOU DO IT YOURSELF, COULD YOU SEND ME A COPY? SURE. ME TOO. SURE. ME TOO. I DO IT. DO Y'ALL WANT MY COPY? OH, YES. . ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, IN ORDER TO BLOCK THIS TRAIN FROM WHEREVER IT'S GOING, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ALARM MONITORING SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR ADULT PROBATION AT AN ANNUAL COST OF $660 TO INCLUDE THE ADDENDUMS THAT DERY SPOKE OF. AND JUST GOOD NEWS AS TO COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER TY'S CONCERN, UH, WHILE OUR ATTORNEYS MAY DEBATE LATER, UM, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CONTE CONTEXT ON THE ADDENDUM OF THE APPROPRIATIONS CLAUSE THAT WE HAVE IN HERE, THERE IS AN INDEPENDENT SENTENCE CLAUSE IN THERE THAT SAYS, IN THE EVENT OF TERMINATION, ROCKWELL COUNTY SHALL PAY SUMMIT FOR WORK COMPLETED UP TO THE TERMINATION DATE. SO IT'S AT LEAST ARGUABLE THERE. GOOD. WELL, WITH THAT, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE MY MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. STACY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED, YOU DID. THAT BRINGS US [21. CONSENT AGENDA] TO AGENDA ITEM 21, CONSENT AGENDA. AND YOU WANTED TO SPEAK, OR HAVE YOU ALREADY SPOKEN DERY ABOUT ITEM G? UH, YES, I DID. IF, IF WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET ME DO THAT. UH, I APPRECIATE IT ON ITEM G. SO THERE IS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF ITEMS IN HERE AND I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A ADDENDUM THAT, UM, WE DO HAVE THE LATEST VERSIONS FOR EACH ONE. I THINK THE MOTOROLA HAD AN ADDENDUM THAT'S IN THERE. HOPEFULLY IT WAS IN YOUR BACKUP, BUT IF NOT, THERE IS A GOOD ADDENDUM IN THERE THAT HAS MANY MORE PROVISIONS THAN THE ONE I JUST TALKED ABOUT. BUT ON ITEM G, UH, I DON'T WANNA PUT A HALT TO ANYTHING THAT IS CRITICAL, AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT PER MY CONVERSATION WITH BARRY. UM, THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE RENTAL FOR THE DISHWASHER, UM, OVER AT THE JAIL, I BELIEVE. AND ON THIS ONE, UH, CRAIG REACHED OUT TO SSDC. I KNOW IT SAYS DX HERE, UH, BUT ON MY AGREEMENT IT SAYS SSDC. YOU REACHED OUT TO THEM ABOUT DOING, UM, AN ADDENDUM BECAUSE THEY HAD SOME PROVISIONS IN THERE AGAIN THAT WE ALWAYS TRY TO NEGOTIATE. UM, THEY DIDN'T RESPOND ON TIME, REALLY. AND SO AS I WAS REVIEWING THAT, UH, NO, I'M SORRY, THEY DID RESPOND. THEY CAME BACK AND STATED THAT THEY LEAD, THEIR LEASING DEPARTMENT IS UNWILLING TO CHANGE ANY TERMS WITHIN THEIR AGREEMENT. UH, I REACHED BACK OUT TO THEM BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, CRAIG, UM, HE LEFT FOR LONDON. THAT'S WHERE HE IS AT RIGHT NOW. SO HE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO RESPOND HIMSELF, BUT I REACHED BACK OUT TO THEM AND, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE PERSON WHO, I BELIEVE IT WAS THEIR, UH, LEASING MANAGER OR SALES MANAGER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, I REACHED OUT TO HIM, UH, VIA PHONE CALL AND I SAID, HEY, I UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT YOU WERE JUST RELAYING THE RESPONSE FROM YOUR LEASING DEPARTMENT ABOUT NOT CHANGING ANYTHING IN THE AGREEMENT. BUT THIS ADDENDUM IS NOBODY HAS TO CHANGE ANYTHING IN THE WORDS OF THE AGREEMENT ITSELF. THIS ADDENDUM IS JUST ADDITIONAL TO IT. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT WAS ABOUT INDEMNITY AND IT WAS ABOUT APPROPRIATIONS 'CAUSE IT'S A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT. UM, HE KIND OF UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS SAYING AND I SAID, HEY, I'M WILLING TO SPEAK TO YOUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT OR ANYBODY ELSE ELSE WHO CAN UNDER, UH, THAT, THAT I CAN EXPLAIN THIS TO. HE SAID HE WOULD TRY TO GET THAT OVER TO THEM FOR ME. HE DIDN'T CLARIFY WHO. UM, AND THEN I SAID I WOULD FOLLOW UP MY PHONE CALL WITH HIM WITH A EMAIL, AND I DID SO LENGTHY EMAIL. ANYWAY, ALL I JUST SAY, I, I REALLY TRIED TO GET THEM TO REACH BACK OUT TO ME BEFORE TODAY. 'CAUSE I LET THEM KNOW THAT TODAY YOU GUYS WOULD BE VOTING ON THIS AGREEMENT. AND I, YOU KNOW, THIS CAN MOVE FORWARD, RIGHT? IF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SO DESIRES, IT DOES HAVE AN INDEMNITY PROVISION IN SECTION FIVE OF THE AGREEMENT. UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE A NON APPROPRIATIONS CLAUSE IN THERE ON THIS LEASING AGREEMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ARGUABLE IN COURT, RIGHT? UH, IF THE, IF THE, IF THIS COURT CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD, IT MAY BE SOMETHING FOR OUR ATTORNEYS TO ARGUE LATER IF IT EVER IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT GOES TO SOME TYPE OF LITIGATION. UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE FOR THE, WE'RE HERE FOR THOSE SMALL CHANCES. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. UM, BUT I KNOW THAT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR BARRY AND FOR THE JAIL. UH, AND I KNOW IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH, WE'RE ALREADY IN AN AGREEMENT WITH THIS SAME COMPANY FOR THE CLEANING SUPPLIES THAT THEY USE, UH, OVER THERE. AND I GUESS THIS EQUIPMENT GOES WITH THAT. UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THESE ARE THINGS IN OUR CONSTITUTION, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT GOES BEYOND THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS IS GONNA BE NULL AND VOID. BUT THAT'S STILL GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE IS LITIGATED IN THE EVENTUALITY. ANYTHING EVER EVEN HAPPENED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE Y'ALL AWARE THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THEM. THE ADDENDUM IS IN THERE, OR IT'S WITH THE PACKET THAT SHERRY HAS, BUT IT IS NOT SIGNED BY SSDC AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY WILL, 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET BACK TO ME. ALL RIGHT. SO COURT, HOW COMFORTABLE ARE WE, DO WE WANNA PULL ITEM G OUT? IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH WE NEED THE LEASE AND WE NEED, UH, THE DISHWASHER. WE CAN'T HAND WASH 'EM. WELL, YEAH, AND BARRY, HOW IS THIS TIMING LOOKING? [01:25:07] IS, IS YOUR QUESTION ASKING? HOW HARMFUL IS THIS? IF YOU DELAY, UM, AS THE COMMISSIONER STATED, THEY ARE HAND WASHING. UM, THIS, YEAH, THIS UNIT IS, IS DOWN. UM, WE DID NOT BUDGET TO BUY A NEW ONE. THE LEASE SEEMED LIKE A, A BETTER OPTION FOR US FINANCIALLY. AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS. IT'S JUST THAT THE WAY THE LEASE WORKS, AS, UH, DERY WAS EXPLAINING IT IS TIED TO THE CHEMICAL THAT THIS MACHINE RUNS. UH, I I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS, BUT THAT'S WHO WILL LEASE YOU A DISHWASHER MACHINE IS WHO YOU PURCHASED SAID CHEMICALS FROM. SO, UM, THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, THE SOONER THE BETTER. IF YOU GUYS ARE UNCOMFORTABLE THOUGH, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. YES, SIR. IS THE OLD DISHWASHER OUT OF THERE? NO, WE, WE HAVE NOT RE WE HAVE NOT REMOVED IT YET. WHO'S, ARE WE GONNA REMOVE IT OR ARE THEY WE ARE GOING TO, OKAY. WELL HERE'S THE INDEMNITY ANDRY JUMP IN HERE. IF YOU THINK I'M READING THIS WRONG. THE INDEMNITY SAYS THAT WE, THE COUNTY, I GUESS AGREE TO INDEMNIFY AND HOLD HARMLESS FROM ALL COSTS AND DAMAGES, INCLUDING ATTORNEY'S FEES INCURRED BY THE DISTRIBUTOR OR SSDC, WHICH IS THEM BY REASON OF THE DISPOSITION, BY SCRAPPING OR OTHERWISE, OF ANY EXISTING DISH WASHING MACHINES OR OTHER APPLIANCES OR TABLES REMOVED TO ACCOMMODATE THE INSTALLATION OF THE EQUIPMENT. SO IT'S A EXTREMELY ODD AND LIMITED INDEMNITY AND GIVE, SINCE WE'RE GONNA BE REMOVING IT ALL ANYWAY. AND SINCE THE INDEMNITY IS JUST TO, FOR DAMAGES THAT THEY WOULD SUFFER BY REASON OF REMOVING IT. AND I, I DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. IT'S A, IT'S A STUPID INDEMNITY. WHOEVER DRAFTED THEIR CONTRACT DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB FOR 'EM, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY HURT US. UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE. SORRY TO JUMP IN. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE WERE REMOVING WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE. YEAH, AND I THINK CRAIG PROBABLY THOUGHT THAT AS WELL. BUT I'M JUST ASKING, DON'T YOU THINK THAT'S AN ODD INDEMNITY TO, I MEAN, WHAT A, I'M GLAD IT'S LIMITED THOUGH. YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S GREAT FOR US. YEAH. AND IF WE'RE REMOVING IT, IT BASICALLY REMOVES THE INDEMNITY, WHICH IS ALWAYS MY BIGGEST CONCERN IN THESE MM-HMM . SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS A THROUGH. I GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACEY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT BRINGS [23. NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFER(S)] US TO AGENDA ITEM 23, NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS. JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS. 2025 DASH 35 20 25 DASH 36, 20 26 DASH OH 1 20 26 DASH OH TWO. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT BRINGS US TO [24. APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL(S)] AGENDA ITEM 24, APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL. YES, SIR. I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT PAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $526,529 AND 95 CENTS, AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL, MOVE TO APPROVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACEY, A C THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. I'M ALSO SUBMITTING UNPAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,233,058 AND 31 CENTS. AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL. MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GANA. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K. IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. AND LASTLY, I SUBMIT TO THE COURT A PAYROLL REPORT FOR THE PAY PERIOD ENDING OCTOBER, 2020, OCTOBER 25TH, 2025 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,140,390 AND 85 CENTS AND ASK FOR COURT'S APPROVAL. MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACEY. IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM [25. EXECUTIVE SESSION] 25, EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ROCKWALL COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA OR IN THIS ITEM IN THE ORDER DEEMED APPROPRIATE AS AUTHORIZED BY CHAPTER 5 5 1 OPEN MEETING, SUB CHAPTER D TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF ITS ATTORNEY. ON THOSE ITEMS WE WILL BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON, UH, [01:30:01] AGENDA ITEM, A PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION AND ATTORNEY-CLIENT INFORMATION DISCUSSION OF DR. HORTON LITIGATION AND MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS AND UNDER PERSONNEL MATTERS, DISCUSSION OF NOMINEE CANDIDATES TO THE ROCKWALL CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. DISCUSSION REGARDING EMPLOYEE NUMBER 6 49 IN CONNECTION WITH FMLA DISCUSSION REGARDING THE REPLACEMENT OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT CHIEF ASSISTANT POSITION, DISCUSSION OF OPEN STATUS JUDGE POSITION OF COUNTY COURT OF LAW, NUMBER ONE AT 10 30. WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. [26. RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION] ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYONE. AT 1228 WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION PURSUANT TO OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 5 5 1, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.001. COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION AND TAKE ANY ACTION NECESSARY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND I CAN SAY NO ACTION TAKEN, UH, COURT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE OFFER THE POSITION OF THE COMMISSIONER COURT CHIEF ASSISTANT TO MEREDITH GROSS, EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 1ST, 2025, AND AN ANNUAL SALARY OF $74,830. I'LL SECOND GOT MY MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES. NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO, UH, COURT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOMINATE FOR THE BOARD OF ROCKWELL CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, ANTHONY CRAWFORD. AND WE CAST ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR VOTES, WHICH ARE 338 VOTES FOR ANTHONY CRAWFORD. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. NOTED. GOT IT. I'LL SECOND THAT. MR. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE MY MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, BEAR WITH ME. I'M RUNNING BEHIND HERE. WE'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. AND THAT BRINGS US TO WHERE DOES THAT BRING US COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER COURT REPORT. BEAR WITH ME. THERE WE ARE. THAT [27. COMMISSIONERS COURT REPORTS] BRINGS US TO COMMISSIONER COURT REPORTS. COMMISSIONER ANA. UH, JUST YESTERDAY WAS VETERANS DAY. SO I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, THANK YOU, UH, TO ALL THE VETERANS THAT, UH, HAVE SERVED AND THOSE THAT ARE CONTINUING TO SERVE. WE APPRECIATE YOU, UH, WE HONOR YOU. THERE WERE SEVERAL, UH, WONDERFUL EVENTS THROUGHOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS COMMUNITY DOES SUPPORT OUR VETERANS. I'M PROUD OF THAT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER M**K. AND I WILL SECOND HIS, HIS COMMENTS AND, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TODAY. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER STACY. YEAH, I WAS GONNA DITTO THAT. AND ALSO HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE MARINE CORPS AND ALL, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY GET THEIR OWN DAY RIGHT BEFORE VETERAN'S DAY, SO, AND THEY DO. WE, WE, WE LOVE OUR MARINES. AND THEN, UM, TODAY ON MY FACEBOOK, UH, I SAW THAT, UH, CROSS PLAINS BAND WON THEIR FIRST EVER STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW WHERE CROSS PLAINS IS, BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M FROM. AND, UM, AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY COOL, UH, THAT THIS LITTLE BITTY TOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF WEST TEXAS JUST WON THEIR FIRST EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD BANNED STATE TITLE LAST NIGHT. SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING AND IT'S KIND OF COOL. COMMISSIONER LICHTY. OKAY. THANK YOU, JUDGE. I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A COMMENT, UH, ABOUT IN HONOR OF OUR 250TH YEAR, UH, HISTORY NOTE FROM THIS WEEK IN 17 75, 250 YEARS AGO. FIRST OF ALL, UH, TO ECHO, UM, COMMISSIONER STACY'S COMMENT ON NOVEMBER 10TH, 1775, A SMALL GROUP OF MEN GATHERED IN PHILADELPHIA AND FORMED A CORPS OF MARINES. I GIVE HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE MARINES, INCLUDING MY FATHER-IN-LAW, STANLEY B SCOTT JR. SEMPER FI. ADDITIONALLY ON NOVEMBER 12TH, 1775 IN CHARLESTON HARBOR, SOUTH CAROLINA AT 4:00 AM THE HMS TAMR AND HMS CHEROKEE DRIFTED CLOSE TO THE USS DEFENSE. BOTH BRITISH SHIPS COMMENCED TO FIRE BROADSIDE SHOTS AT THE DEFENSE. FOR THREE HOURS, THE USS DEFENSE MANAGED TO SINK ONE OF THE SHIPS AND THEN WITHDREW FROM THE AREA. DURING THE BATTLE, THE HMS TAMR SHOT OVER 100 ROUNDS AT THE DEFENSE, BUT ONLY STRUCK HER THREE TIMES, MANY OF THE ONE. THIS IS ONE OF MANY EVIDENCE TO ME OF GOD'S PROVIDENTIAL BLESSING ON THE CREATION OF OUR GREAT NATION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LICHTY. I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, READ INTO THE RECORD A GRIEVANCE ON BEHALF OF THE HOLIDAY OF THANKSGIVING. UH, IT, THANKSGIVING HAS BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY REMOVED, UH, AND PREEMPTED [01:35:01] BY CHRISTMAS, WHICH I LOVE THE BIRTH OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. BUT I JUST WANT IT STATED FOR THE RECORD, LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT THANKSGIVING. AND AT 1232, WE ARE ADJOURNED. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.