Nov 25, 2025 Commissioners Court Regular Meeting

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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

I'M GONNA CALL OUR REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING TO ORDER.

IT IS NOVEMBER 25TH, 2025, 9:00 AM I'M GONNA ASK COMMISSIONER ALANA TO LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION AND COMMISSIONER STACY DE LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGES.

PLEASE STAND AS YOU ARE ABLE.

ALL RIGHT.

PLEASE JOIN ME.

[A) INVOCATION; Bobby GaIlana]

THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOODNESS, FOR YOUR BLESSINGS OVER ALL OF US.

THANK YOU THAT THROUGH YOU THERE IS ALWAYS HOPE FOR YOUR SALVATION, EVEN IN THE TOUGHEST OF TIMES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR MERCY AND GRACE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE SACRIFICE SO THAT WE MIGHT HAVE FREEDOM IN LIFE.

THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING OUR MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN.

OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

HELP US TO SET OUR EYES AND HEARTS TO YOU AND YOU.

OUR SPIRITS FILL US WITH YOUR PEACE AND JOY.

WE LOVE AND NEED YOU THIS DAY AND EVERY DAY WE GIVE YOU PRAISE AND THANKS.

AMEN.

AMEN.

ALRIGHT, FIRST TO THE AMERICAN FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AND NOW, TEXAS, HONOR OF THE TEXAS FLAG, MY PLEDGE TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDERGROUND.

ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

THIS BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

THE PUBLIC FORUM IS THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COURT ABOUT ANY COUNTY MATTERS.

UH, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP, BUT IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, THEY CAN COME FORWARD NOW.

SEE, NO ONE WILL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM

[2. Discuss/Act on updates of the Strategic Plan 2050 Implementation Management Plan, and all related issues; (Commissioner Macalik)]

COMMISSIONER M**K.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

LAST WEEK, INVISIO, THEY HOSTED AN END USER TRAINING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES FROM EACH OF THE GOALS TO LEARN HOW TO ENTER AND MAKE THE UPDATES TO THE STRATEGIES AND THE STATUSES OF EACH GOAL.

WE ARE CAUGHT UP WITH OUR, UM, TIMELINE OF WHERE WE NEED TO BE BY AT THIS POINT.

SO THE NEXT STEP FOR US IS WITH EACH GOAL OWNER IS GOING TO MEET WITH THEIR TEAMS, AND THAT'S EACH OF US.

AND, UM, SHERIFF, UM, GARRETT, AND, UM, DISTRICT ATTORNEY KENDA CULPEPPER.

AND WE WILL CREATE OUR WORK PLANS.

AND WE HAVE A, AND THE, THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE I GAVE YOU WILL SHOW YOU THOSE DATES.

UM, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON 'EM, JUST ASK ME, AND I'M HAPPY TO HELP YOU.

BUT WE ARE ON TRACK WITH OUR TIMELINE AND WITH OUR MILESTONES, AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE US, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED EFFORT.

UH, THAT BRINGS

[3. Discuss/ Act on updates and progress related to the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Ga Ilana)]

COMMISSIONER ALANA.

ALRIGHT, SO IT'S JUST, UH, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN UPDATE TODAY TOO MUCH, BUT, UM, IT'S COMING ALONG VERY NICELY.

UM, WE ARE, UM, PRETTY MUCH ON SCHEDULE FOR WHERE WE, UH, NEED TO BE, UM, APPROACHING THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

THEY'RE REALLY WORKING ON THE JAIL CELL PORTION OF IT RIGHT NOW IS KIND OF ALL THAT'S LEFT BESIDES TOUCH UP WORK.

UM, AND WE HAD A CHANCE TO WALK THROUGH AFTER THE GRAND OPENING OF THE ANNEX, UM, LAST WEEK.

AND IT'S, IT JUST LOOKS FANTASTIC.

THEY'VE DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB WITH IT.

SO.

ALL RIGHT.

AND I WILL ECHO THAT.

I WAS REAL IMPRESSED WITH THE, THE STATUS OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

THE, THE COURTROOMS LOOK AWESOME, LOOK LIKE COURTROOMS, DON'T THEY? THEY DO, BUT THEY LOOK VERY NICE.

YES, THEY DO.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT TAKES US

[4. Discuss/ Act on updates and progress related to the American Rescue Plan monies and the County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

COMMISSIONER STACY.

YEAH.

UH, NICO'S WALKING UP, BUT I'M GONNA TAKE THIS ONE.

UM, WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO FINISHING OUT EVERYTHING.

UM, WE MADE A DECISION WITH HILL AND WILKINSON, UM, YESTERDAY.

UH, MOST OF THE AUDIT IS NOW KIND OF ON HILL AND WILKINSON AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING THE PROJECT AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RELEASE, UM, THE REST OF THE PAY APPS AND RE AND RELEASE ALL THE SUBCONTRACTORS 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOWN TO.

THAT WILL ALLOW US TO GET A PCO, WHICH SHOULD RELEASE MOST OF THE REMAINING MONEY.

AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS PROBABLY RUN ALMOST $4 MILLION UNDER BUDGET, SO IT WILL RELEASE THE REST OF THE MONEY SO THAT WE CAN PUT IT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BECAUSE IT'S ARPA AND TRY TO GET IT SPENT.

UM, AND SO THAT SHOULD BE COMING TO YOU IN DECEMBER.

UM, THE ACTUAL CLOSEOUT WILL PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO JANUARY, POTENTIALLY FEBRUARY, BECAUSE WE ARE AUDITORS, LOVE AUDITORS.

BUT MY GOODNESS, WE ARE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS OF EVERY LAPTOP, EVERY DESK, EVERY TV THAT THEY CHARGE TO THIS PROJECT.

, NICO AND I WERE ON A CALL FOR OVER AN HOUR YESTERDAY JUST

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IT ALL HAS TO HAPPEN.

BUT NOW ALL OF THE AUDITING IS NOW ON HILL AND WILKINSON, SO WE'RE GONNA HOLD THEIR MONEY UNTIL THE AUDIT IS DONE.

WE WILL RELEASE EVERYTHING ELSE SO THAT WE CAN GET MOVING FORWARD.

SO WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO GETTING THAT DONE.

ALL THE BILLS ARE PAID.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THROUGH THIS FINAL CONSTRUCTION AUDIT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, NICO, BUT I THINK THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR WHERE WE ARE.

NOPE, I THINK YOU COVERED IT.

AND THANK YOU NICO, FOR WORKING THROUGH THAT AUDIT, BECAUSE MAN, THERE, IT'S FUN, ISN'T IT? OH MY GOODNESS.

, UM, .

THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE.

ALL RIGHT, WELL ANYWAYS, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAD ON THAT JUDGE IN, IN COURT.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE,

[5. Discuss/Act on the Sheriff's remodel project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]

COMMISSIONER STACY.

WELL NOW WE'LL HAND THIS OVER TO NICO.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

UH, THE ROCKWALL COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE IS CURRENTLY PERFORMING UNDER BUDGET, UH, WITH ROUGHLY 400,000, UH, CONSTRUCTION COSTS SPENT.

THAT'S NOT INCLUDING PAY APP NUMBER THREE, UH, THAT WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR.

OUR ACTUAL WORK IN PLACE IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO A MILLION BY NOW.

UM, SO THE 400,000 REALLY ONLY COVERS THE WORK THROUGH SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE, THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

UM, THE CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY, WE'VE SPENT 75,000 OF THAT.

UM, THAT NUMBER IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST, WHICH IS WHY I HAVE A ASTERISK NEXT TO IT.

UM, SO IT DOES NOT TOTAL INTO THE GRAND TOTALS.

UM, SO THAT 75,000 IS ESSENTIALLY, WE'VE EXHAUSTED ALL THAT WE'VE PUT IN TO THE CONTINGENCY SINCE THE, THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT.

UH, FROM VALUE ENGINEERING AND BEING COST EFFECTIVE AND FINDING WAYS WE CAN SAVE MONEY, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THAT CONTINGENCY BY ROUGHLY 75,000.

AND THAT'S INCLUDING THE PCOS THAT ARE ON THIS AGENDA.

YES.

AND SO EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN THE, THE SUMMARY FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS HAS CAPTURED ALL THE PCOS THAT YOU'LL SEE TODAY.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT FORECASTING ANY FURTHER IN THE FUTURE.

SO THERE ARE SOME PENDING PCOS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, IN THE FUTURE THAT AREN'T SHOWN ON HERE.

UM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONTINGENCY OR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS OR HOW THAT WORKS? NO.

OKAY.

NO QUESTIONS.

I'LL MOVE FORWARD.

UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO THIS POINT, WE'VE EXPENDED ABOUT 420,000, UH, NOW.

PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

THAT INCLUDES MY TIME, PARK HILL, THE AUDITOR, UM, GRANT WORKS CONSULTANTS.

UM, WE'VE EXPENDED, NO, WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED OUR OWNER'S CONTINGENCY AT ALL.

UM, THAT'S OUTSIDE OF S CI'S CONTRACT AND OUR TOTAL PRO PROJECT BUDGET.

UM, SO THAT'S BEEN UNTAPPED, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

OUR OWNER PROCUREMENT, WE'VE EXPENDED 370,000 UP UNTIL THIS POINT.

THAT INCLUDES, UH, EVIDENCE LOCKERS, THE DISPATCH CONSOLES.

WE RECENTLY RELEASED, UH, L THREE HARRIS, UH, FOR INSTALLATION OF INTENT, THEIR RADIO ANTENNA.

UH, THIS ALSO PROJECTS, UM, A PCO, UH, PROPOSAL THAT WE'LL LOOK AT TODAY FOR L THREE HARRIS FOR RELOCATING, UH, THE DISPATCH CONSOLES, TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT.

UM, SO THAT'S INCREASED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED.

UM, SO, BUT OVERALL, WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE UNDER BUDGET, WE'RE PERFORMING WELL.

UM, AND HOPEFULLY I'LL HAVE PAY AT THREE.

UH, THE NEXT TIME I REPORT TO YOU GUYS, IT'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE OF A CONSTRUCTION COST.

UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY BEHIND SCHEDULE WITH CONSTRUCTION, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN NO ADDITIONAL DELAYS CLAIMED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE.

HOW FAR BEHIND ARE WE? UH, THE CONTRACTOR IS, IS CLAIMING 28 DAYS AT THIS POINT, 28 DAYS BEHIND.

AND SO IF WE CALCULATE THEIR GCS, UM, AND WE, WE DIVIDE IT OUT, THAT'S ROUGHLY 25,000, $30,000 OF EXTENDED COST DUE TO THE DELAY.

GOT IT.

AND THE DELAY WA CAME FROM PERMITTING, ESSENTIALLY.

SO THEN WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO CATCH UP.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE IN THE MODE OF RIGHT NOW.

I AM FAMILIAR BEING A SUBCONTRACTOR.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH CATCH UP MODE.

THE GOOD THING IS, IS WE DO HAVE SOME EXTRA MONEY IN PERMITTING, UM, SPECIFICALLY IN OUR TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET.

UM, AND THAT WAS JUST HAPPENED TO BE BY CHANCE BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR HAD

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AND I ALSO HAD SOME IN MIND.

SO, UH, I THINK WE'LL BE GOOD THERE.

UM, THE LAST, THE LAST FEW WEEKS, UM, THE TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON ELECTRICAL NWA.

UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THE COORDINATION DONE THAT'S ALLOWED US TO START, UH, CONTINUING THE NWA, MEP, WHICH IS MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE SOME OF THE ROUGH FRAMING.

UH, WE'VE GOTTEN IN-WALL BLOCKING FOR A LOT OF THE ACCESSORIES AND, AND TVS AND WHATNOT THAT WILL BE ON THE WALL.

UM, ONE-SIDED DRYWALL HAS CONTINUED, UM, AND LOW VOLTAGE, UH, CABLE DEMOLITION.

UH, THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE'LL BE FOCUSED ON, I BELIEVE TODAY OR TOMORROW THEY'LL BE GETTING THE IN-WALL INSPECTION ON THEIR FRAMING AND ALL THE, UH, IN-WALL SYSTEMS. SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BEGIN TWO SIDING, DRYWALL, AND CLOSING THE WALLS.

UM, SO THEY'LL BEGIN THAT.

THEY'RE INSTALLING DOOR FRAMES CURRENTLY AS WELL.

UM, INSTALLING ROOF CURBS FOR THE AC UNITS UP TOP.

THOSE WILL BE DELIVERED IN MID-DECEMBER, SO THEY'RE JUST GETTING AHEAD OF THE GAME AND STARTING TO INSTALL THE ROOF, ROOF CURBS, UH, FOR THOSE UNITS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO FINISHING THE OVERHEAD HVAC SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THE OVERHEAD INSPECTION.

UH, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

UM, ON THE TOPIC OF PROCUREMENT, THE ONLY ADDITIONAL THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT THE DISPATCH CONSOLES ARTWORK APPROVAL, UM, WAS SUBMITTED BY THE SHERIFF AND APPROVED.

UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RELEASE THAT PO OFFICIALLY.

UM, AND THEN QUALITY ASSURANCE, QUALITY CONTROL WISE, UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD, I WOULD COMMENT ON IS WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN STRUCTURAL, UM, APPROVAL ON THE OPERABLE PARTITION FRAMING.

UH, THAT'S KIND OF BEEN A LINGERING ITEM.

UH, I MENTIONED THAT WE'LL HAVE THE ROUGH END INSPECTION TODAY OR TOMORROW.

AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE FOR UPDATES.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? STACY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND, AND GREAT, GREAT PRESENTATION, NICO.

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE STILL IN THE, IN BEGINNING PHASES THOUGH.

WE LOOK LIKE WE'VE GOT ABOUT A MILLION LEFT OVER FROM WHATEVER THE PROJECT BUDGET WAS COMPARED TO WHERE WE'RE REMAINING RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND THEN YOU'VE, YOU STATED WE'VE PROBABLY, UM, COMMISSIONER STACEY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE HOPEFULLY ABOUT 4 MILLION LEFTOVER, UM, IN THE OTHER PROJECT.

NO, WE MOVED MOST OF THAT MONEY.

YOU'VE ALREADY MOVED IT INTO THIS.

YEAH, WE MOVED A, WE'VE MOVED A LOT OF THAT MONEY AROUND THERE.

THERE IS NO FREE MONEY.

OKAY.

WELL, I'M NOT, I'M NOT CALLING IT FREE BY ANY MEANS, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, ALL, NO, NO, THE, THE ANNEX IS EXPECTED TO BE UPWARDS OF 300,000, BUT NOT OVER A MILLION.

OH, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I'M SORRY.

I WROTE DOWN WHILE AGO, SO THAT YOU, WHEN YOU SAID THAT WE HAD, WE'RE 4 MILLION UNDER, BUT ESTIMATED UNDER THE BUDGET.

YEAH, HE, HE, HE SAID THAT, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN QUARANTINED.

YES, WE'VE ALREADY MOVED MOST OF IT OUT.

OKAY.

IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT, THAT, MY POINT WAS IS THAT WE ARE UNDER BUDGET.

WE'RE MOVE.

WE'VE MOVED SO MUCH MONEY OF THAT OUT THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A TON IN THERE, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS SIGNIFICANT FUNDS IN THERE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WE'RE DOING WELL ON OUR BUDGET, BUT IT, IT'S PROBABLY TOO EARLY TO TELL ROUGHLY HOW MUCH WE'LL HAVE LEFT OVER.

AND, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS THE BIGGEST PART.

I MEAN, WE'RE IN THE CONCRETE WALLS, WE'RE IN THE OLD JAIL.

UM, WE'RE TEARING STUFF DOWN THAT HASN'T BEEN LOOKED AT IN 25, 30 YEARS.

AND SO WE'RE RUNNING INTO ALL THE PROBLEMS NOW, AND I THINK WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE DID VALUE ENGINEER ABOUT 75,000, KNOWING THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY END UP KIND OF GOING OVER THE DEMO BUDGET ABOUT THAT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY.

SO WE KNEW THAT THAT MONEY WAS TECHNICALLY COMING OUT, BUT WAS GONNA STAY IN THE PROJECT.

UM, SO IT'S, IT, IT IS THE PART WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS THE STUFF WHERE IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START TEARING DOWN CEILINGS THAT ARE CONCRETE AND THEN YOU SEE STUFF THAT YOU COULDN'T SEE BEFORE.

ONE OF THESE PCOS IS THAT, IS THAT WE TORE OUT A CEILING AND THEN FOUND THAT THERE WAS STUFF ABOVE THE CEILING THAT WE WASN'T EVEN, YOU COULDN'T EVEN SEE IT.

IT'S A CONCRETE CEILING.

SO THERE'S JUST THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW.

AND SO, UH, THE, THE ONE THAT, THAT NICO'S DANCING AROUND, IS IT, UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE.

THAT'S, THAT'S, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERING, UM, IT GOES 6, 8, 9, 10, 11.

WELL, NUMBER SEVEN IS IT, AND, AND THE REASON IS, IS THERE'S A LOT OF IT IN THERE.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY IT IS, WHEN YOU THINK OF DATA CABLES, UM, LOW VOLTAGE CABLES, HDMI, UM, STUFF THAT GOES TO L THREE HARRIS STUFF THAT GOES TO 9 1 1, GOING

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AND THERE'S JUST A LOT TO UNPACK.

AND WE'RE JUST, THIS WILL BE THE BULK OF IT.

AND THEN WHEN WE GO INTO, YOU KNOW, PHASE TWO, THAT'S GONNA BE A WHOLE LOT MORE OF, YOU KNOW, REDOING SOME OF THE INTERIOR, BUT NOT AS MUCH EXPOSURE AND DEMOLITION AND ALL THAT.

AND THEN PHASE THREE IS FOCUSED ON DISPATCH, AND THEN PHASE FOUR IS PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER.

SO THIS IS THE BULK.

YEAH.

SO JUST TO KIND OF PUT SOME OF THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE, WHAT HE WAS MENTIONING ABOUT THE IT, THE PCO SEVEN IS PROBABLY GONNA BE ROUGHLY 70,000.

SO THAT JUST KIND OF SPEAKS TO HOW MUCH THERE IS GOING ON BETWEEN THOSE LOW VOLTAGE SYSTEMS. AND THERE WAS SOME SIGNIFICANT SCOPE GAP AND LACK OF, LACK OF DESIGN OR PLAN FOR THOSE CLOSETS ALL CONSOLIDATING TO ONE THAT, UH, IS REFLECTED IN THAT COST.

AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING, UH, ROCKWELL, IT DECI, UH, IS PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY WANT TO PURCHASE FIVE ADDITIONAL RACKS.

SO THAT 70,000 DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE THAT.

UM, BUT THEY ARE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE AND BEING THOUGHTFUL IN THE WAY THEY, UH, THAT WE ADDRESS THIS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S PERMANENT.

IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.

SO.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, NICO.

YEP.

MR. STACY, FOR THE UPDATE THAT BRINGS

[6. Discuss/Act on allocating $4,800 Kologik COPSync subscription agreements expense for Constables 1-4 to the Public Safety Sales Tax fund for FY2026, and all related issues; (Judge New)]

CONSTABLE FOG IS ALREADY AT THE MIC.

I I THINK I CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SO THE LATE IN SEPTEMBER, UM, THE COURT WAS, UH, PRESENTED THE, UH, COPS INC UH, SUBSCRIPTION, AND IT WAS BELIEVED THAT IT WOULD ALL BE PURCHASED AND PAID FOR OUT OF REMAINING FY 25 FUNDS, WHICH WAS TRUE WHEN THE PRODUCT ARRIVED BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, EVERYTHING WAS GOOD.

BUT THE SUBSCRIPTION AGREEMENT ITSELF WAS ACTUALLY AN FY 26 EXPENSE BECAUSE OF THE DATE OF THE SERVICE.

UH, THERE'S NO WAY I COULD CHARGE IT TO, UH, 25.

SO WE CHARGED IT, WE MEANING THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE IN THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, WHEN WE PAID THE BILL, UH, IT WAS CHARGED TO EACH OF THE FOUR CONSTABLES $1,200.

I I PUT THE BACKUP IN AND THERE'S AN EMAIL EXPLAINING IT, UM, TO CAMMIE FOR THE AGENDA ITEM.

UH, SO CO CONSTABLE FOG CAME TO ME AND SAID THAT THAT WAS NOT WHAT THEY HAD INTENDED.

NOBODY WAS EXPECTING $1,200 HITTING THEIR FY 26 BUDGET BECAUSE IT WAS NOT BUDGETED FUNDS.

SO I SAID, WHAT, WELL, WHAT CAN WE DO TO FIX IT? AND HE SAID, LET'S FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO CHARGE IT.

SO I, UH, I'M PRESENTING IT TO THAT, THAT IS A FIX.

YEAH.

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SO I'M PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY, THERE IS SOME CONTINGENCY FUNDS IN YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY SALES TAX, WHICH CAN BE USED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPENSES.

UH, IT WOULD BE $1,200 TIMES FOUR, SO $4,800.

AND, UH, WE WOULD CHARGE IT TO A SUBSCRIPTION LINE.

AND THEN NEXT YEAR IT WILL, BECAUSE IT IS AN ONGOING MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT OR SUBSCRIPTION AGREEMENT, WE'LL PUT IT AND BUDGET IT IN THEIR BUDGET.

SO THIS WOULD BE A ONE TIME, UH, LINE IN YOUR FUND, 51.

HOW MUCH ROUGHLY IS IN FUND? 51? I, I THINK, UH, I BROUGHT MY BUDGET WITH ME.

I THINK WE HAVE A HUNDRED OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN CONTINGENCY.

UM, YEAH, IF YOU HAD 181,000 IN YOUR CONTINGENCY THERE, YOU DON'T HAVE A DUES AND SUBSCRIPTION LINE, BUT WE CAN ADD IT AND JUST, UH, OFFSET IT WITH THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS.

GOT IT.

GOT IT.

GOT IT.

AND I, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND HOW THIS HAPPENED, BUT IT GETS BACK TO OUR LAST MEETING WHEN WE, WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT I RECALL FOR THESE PAST NEARLY THREE YEARS THAT WERE NOT BUDGETED AND WE FIND A PLACE FOR 'EM.

AND THAT'S GOOD THAT WE ARE OUR, OUR, OUR CITIZENS PROBABLY APPRECIATE THAT, BUT BE BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS.

WE WENT THROUGH THIS PAST, THIS PAST BUDGET SEASON OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, AND THEN WE ACCEPTED, THEN WE HAD TO TAKE OUT, AND NOW WE'RE STARTING TO PULL FROM IT.

I WOULD, I REALLY WOULD LIKE A FULL RUNNING, YOU, YOU, YOU WANT TO TRACK, I WANNA TRACK HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY ARE, ARE, ARE SPENDING OUT OF THE FUNDS THAT WE, WE HAVE MONEY IN, BUT I, BUT AGAIN, IT WAS SUCH A LABORIOUS ACTION THAT

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BUT THIS IS ONE THAT, UM, LISA, I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR US.

AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT WITH SHERRY EARLIER ON SOME OTHER ITEMS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT WE NEED TO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M KEEPING TRACK ON 'EM.

NO PROBLEM.

AND I PROBABLY AM NOT THE ONE TO DO IT.

I THINK THAT I, I MEAN, , I MIGHT NOT, I MIGHT NOT CATCH EVERYTHING.

LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY.

JEFF LEY.

YEAH.

NO, AND, AND, AND YEAH, I, I, I AGREE.

I I'D LIKE TO HAVE A, A LIST OF WHAT, WHAT WE DIDN'T CAPTURE IN THE BUDGET, AND SO WE CAN JUST HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

WHY, WHY DIDN'T WE CAPTURE IT? AND THIS ONE NO ONE'S FAULT.

UH, OTHER THAN WE GOT AN INVOICE, WE CLOSED OUT THE BUDGET'S.

YEAH.

AND I THINK IT'S GOOD BUDGETING 'CAUSE IT SHOWS US WE CAN START HAVING A TREND AND WE CAN SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF COMES UP DURING THE YEARS.

ANY COMMISSIONER, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A MOTION IF WE'RE READY.

ALL RIGHT.

FIRE, FIRE AWAY.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY.

NOT YET.

WELL, YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION, WE CAN DISCUSS IT AFTERWARDS.

OKAY.

WANT, OKAY.

OKAY.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ALLOCATE $4,800 FOR CO LOGIC COPSE SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR CONSTABLES ONE THROUGH FOUR TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY SALES TAX FUND FOR FY 26.

I'LL SECOND GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACY.

NOW FURTHER CONVERSATION.

UM, THANKS.

UH, LISA, ARE THESE THE SAME THINGS THAT ARE SHOWING UP IN ITEM 14 OF OUR AGENDA? OR ARE THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS? THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS, SIR.

OKAY.

14.

UH, WHEN WE GET TO 14, I CAN, WE CAN GO THROUGH 'EM, BUT THEY'RE ALL, UH, FIXING OVERAGES IN 25 IN CERTAIN AREAS, RIGHT.

THERE'S SOFT, BUT THERE'S SOFT.

THE FIRST FOUR OF 'EM ARE SOFTWARE TRANSFERS, RIGHT? THERE'S FOUR CONSTABLE SOFTWARE TRANSFERS.

OH, LET ME GET TO THAT.

HANG ON.

SORRY.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SOFTWARE WAS, BUT YOU'RE, BUT THAT IS FY 25 THAT SOMETHING WAS CODED, SO OBVIOUSLY IT WAS APPROVED, UH UH RIGHT.

AND FOR THEM LATE IN 25, THAT COULD BE AND MOVED INTO 26.

IT KIND OF LOOKED LIKE THE SAME THING TO ME, BUT I'M TRYING TO, BUT THE NUMBERS DON'T MATCH.

THEY'RE CLOSE, BUT THEY DON'T MATCH.

IT'S WASN'T MOVED INTO 26.

26 IS EXPENSES SEPARATE THAN THESE, THESE MOVEMENTS? OKAY, GO AHEAD, SHERRY.

THIS WAS THE PART OF THAT PROJECT THAT WAS RECEIVED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 25.

OKAY.

SO WE COULD PAY IT IN 25 AND WE JUST HAD TO MOVE MONEY, MONEY AROUND WITHIN THAT BUDGET TO MAKE SURE TO ALLOCATE IT PROPERLY.

SO IT'S NOT THE SAME AS THIS SOFTWARE TRANSFER.

NO.

OKAY.

THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALANA, I SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

STACY, IF YOU WILL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

GLAD I COULD ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.

, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

[7. Discuss/Act on approving the relocation of dispatch equipment for the Rockwall County Sheriff's Office by L3 Harris Technologies in relation to the Sheriff's Office remodel at a cost of $20,600, and all related issues; (County Auditor - Commissioner Stacy)]

YEAH, THIS, IT, THAT, THAT SHOWS UP BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE COME FROM THE AUDITOR BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, UH, BEING APPROVED BY THE DA'S OFFICE.

UM, THIS ONE HAS BEEN APPROVED BY CRAIG.

UM, AND, UH, AND, AND WE'RE ALL GOOD HERE.

SO WE HAD A $30,000 ALLOWANCE FOR THIS.

UM, I, UH, I, I TEXTED, UH, LAUREN WHEN I WAS IN A MEETING REALIZING THE REASON WE'RE VOTING ON THE ALLOWANCES IS 'CAUSE THEY'RE CALLED ALLOWANCES, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY CONTRACTUALLY CONTINGENCIES.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE ACTION.

SO ANYWAYS, WE HAD A $30,000 BUCKET OF MONEY , AND THIS IS $20,000 AND 600, AND THIS IS FOR L THREE HARRIS TO MOVE DISPATCH AND TO PUT DISPATCH BACK.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

SO THIS WAS A KNOWN EXPENSE.

WE'RE JUST NOW ALLOCATING THE FUNDS AND EXERCISING THE CONTRACT.

ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RELOCATION OF THE DISPATCH EQUIPMENT FOR THE ROCKWELL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE BY THE L THREE HARRIS TECHNOLOGIES IN RELATION TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE REMODELED AT A COST OF $20,600.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE.

IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

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THAT BRINGS US

[8. Discuss/ Act on approving Prime Contract Change Order No. 006, 008 through 011 to the agreement with SCI Construction for the Rockwall County Sheriff Office Renovation project, and all related issues; (County Auditor - Commissioner Stacy)]

COMMISSIONER STACY? YEAH, SO I'M GONNA GIVE, UM, A ROUGH BREAKDOWN AND THEN I'LL KIND OF OPEN THE FLOOR TO QUESTIONS.

UM, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE ALL THIS IS COMING FROM.

PCO SIX IS, THERE WAS A BEAM, UM, THAT WAS EXPOSED AFTER WE REMOVED A CONCRETE CEILING.

UM, PCO SEVEN IS LOW VOLTAGE, WHICH IS NOT READY, AS NICO ALLUDED TO.

THAT ONE'S GOING TO BE QUITE A BEAR WHEN WE GET TO THAT.

UM, PCO EIGHT IS SOME MILLWORK.

UM, THAT, THAT WE JUST, WHEN WE LOOKED AT HOW THE FINISH LOOKED, THE, THE, THE SHERIFF AND THE TEAM SAID, HEY, LET'S, LET'S MAKE THIS LOOK A LITTLE NICER THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT.

UM, CO NINE, UM, THERE IS AN OUTSIDE DOOR THAT WE'RE GONNA FILL IN WITH MASONRY.

UM, WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, AND THE DECISION WAS MADE TO DO MASONRY.

AND SO THAT'S $2,300.

THE BULK OF THIS IS PCO 10, WHICH IS ALMOST $65,000.

AND THAT IS UPDATED PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, AND MECHANICAL FROM THE PERMITTING.

THAT'S THE BIG BULK OF THIS.

UM, AND THEN PCO 11 IS MAKING SURE THAT THE VACUUM TUBE GOT INTO DISPATCH.

IT WAS MISSED IN THE DRAWINGS, THAT THAT WAS A NECESSITY, UM, TO MAKE SURE THE VACUUM TUBE GOT IN THERE.

UM, SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

AGAIN, WE DID DO SOME VALUE ENGINEERING.

WE DID DO, UH, SAVE SOME MONEY ON SERVICE LOCKERS.

AND WHAT THE POINT WAS, IS KNOWING THAT BECAUSE WE WERE JUST STARTING A DEMO, WE LEFT ALL THAT MONEY RIGHT WHERE IT WAS IN CONTINGENCY.

WE BASICALLY TRANSFERRED IT ALL INTO THE CONTINGENCY KNOWING THAT UNTIL THAT DEMO WAS DONE, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH.

UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT.

SO THIS IS KIND OF THE, THE, THE FIRST SWATH AT THE MAJOR DEMO RENOVATION CHANGES.

AND NOW WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT, UH, THE LOW VOLTAGE.

WE DO HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR LOW VOLTAGE, BY THE WAY.

IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT GONNA COVER ALL OF IT.

SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE END RESULT, MAKE DECISIONS, AND THEN COME FORWARD WITH THAT.

SO THAT'S OUR BIG, UM, KIND OF UNKNOWN, WHICH IS THE REASON WE HAVE CONTINGENCIES, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO UNTIL WE START TEARING DOWN WALLS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL JUST OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS AND, AND ALL OF THESE AMOUNTS WERE INCLUDED IN NICO'S SUMMARY, MY QUESTION.

YEAH.

THANKS FOR THE EXPLANATION.

UH, APPRECIATE IT.

VERY GOOD.

VERY HELPFUL.

UM, SO IF, IF I UNDERSTOOD NICO CORRECT, WE'VE INCREASED OUR CONTINGENCY.

WE'VE NOW DECREASING OUR CONTINGENCY, BUT WE'RE BASICALLY RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE ESSENTIALLY YES.

UM, ALMOST EXACTLY.

OH, UM, WE, UH, WE STARTED OUR OWNER'S CONTINGENCY AT 2 25, UM, AFTER THESE PCOS WILL BE AT 2 69.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PCO 6, 8, 9, 10, AND 11 TO THE SCI CONTRACT FOR THE ROCKWALL COUNTY SHERIFF'S RENOVATION PROJECT.

GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY.

I'LL SECOND THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION.

TAKE BOTH.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K.

ALL RIGHT.

QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS? UM, THE, THE PRESENTATION, NICO, THAT YOU MAKE ON EACH EACH MEETING FOR US, IS THAT BEING GIVEN A CO CAN YOU GIVE US A COPY OF THAT OR, ABSOLUTELY.

I SEND IT TO COMMISSIONER STACEY AND YEAH.

'CAUSE I DON'T SEE IT IN OUR, IN OUR BACKUP, SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF IT.

YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL GET, JUST LIKE WE DID THE ARPA.

WE'LL START GETTING IT DISTRIBUTED, SO THANK YOU.

SO, UM, WHEN IT COMES FOR THE NEXT COURT, WE'LL SEND IT TO THE COURT COORDINATOR AND IT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED, PLEASE.

OKAY.

AND JUST FOR MY SANITY, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALLOWANCES AND CONTINGENCY.

THE ALLOWANCES ARE FOR KNOWN COSTS.

THEY'RE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR SOMETHING THAT IS KNOWN THAT WE'RE GONNA COME ACROSS.

THE CONTINGENCY IS FOR STUFF THAT IS UNFORESEEN, THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA COME INTO SOMETHING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.

SO JUST, JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW, 'CAUSE I KNOW IT DOES KIND OF GET CONFUSING BETWEEN THE ALLOWANCES AND CONTINGENCY AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUST LIKE, OH, WE JUST SAVED A BUNCH OF MONEY.

AND, BUT, UH, THERE IS, THERE IS A REASON THEY'RE BOTH VERY INTENTIONAL.

SO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAD THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY.

WE HAD A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE? THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA

[9. Discuss/Act on development of a new Logo for Rockwall County and entering into a Contract for the development of a Logo, and all related matters; (Commissioner Liechty)]

COMMISSIONER LTY? OKAY, THANK YOU, JUDGE.

UM, LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE EXPLANATION

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UM, THE, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS OUR EXISTING COUNTY LO LOGO.

OKAY.

AND IT'S, UH, TO MY, WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND OUT, IT'S OVER 20 YEARS OLD.

IT'S NOT RARELY USED.

IT'S RARELY USED.

AND, UM, WE DID IT, USED IT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND WE DID THE HUNDRED 50TH AND PUT A BANNER ACROSS IT.

AND THAT WAS NEAT, BUT I THOUGHT IT KIND OF NEEDED TO BE REFRESHED.

SO, UM, I MET WITH JIM, OUR PIO AND WE DISCUSSED HOW WE MIGHT DO THIS AND THINGS WE MIGHT WANNA INCLUDE.

I I ASKED THE JUDGE ABOUT IT AND HE SAID, SURE, GO AHEAD.

UM, NOT, NOT, NOT ENDORSING ANYTHING I'M DOING, JUST I WANTED TO KEEP HIM IN THE, IN THE LOOP.

SO I MET WITH JIM AND I ASKED JIM TO COME UP WITH A, UH, FIND SOMEBODY WHO COULD, UH, DO A LOGO FOR US.

UH, AND HE CHECKED AROUND AND DID THAT.

UM, I ALSO REACHED OUT TO ANOTHER PERSON WHO DOES THAT KIND OF WORK HERE IN TOWN.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE GOT IS TWO DIFFERENT PROPOSALS HERE AND TWO DIFFERENT IDEAS.

UM, JUST SO YOU WILL KNOW, I, I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT WE'VE GOTTA MAKE, WE GOTTA MAKE A COUPLE DECISIONS FIRST, DO WE WANNA UPDATE THE LOGO? THAT'S THE FIRST DECISION.

SECOND, UM, WHO DO WE WANNA GO WITH TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S A CREATIVE PROCESS.

AND THIRD, UM, WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK AT, LOOK LIKE? SO I TOLD BOTH THE PARTIES THAT HAVE SUBMITTED PROPOSALS, AND ALL OF YOU HAVE GOTTEN THOSE PROPOSALS.

YOU RECEIVED THEM YESTERDAY.

UM, I'VE TOLD BOTH PARTIES I WANTED THREE THINGS IN THE LOGO.

AGAIN, NOT BINDING THE COURT, BUT THIS IS MY IDEA.

SO, UM, THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD, WOULD LOOK GOOD, AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

I SAID I WANTED IT TO BE CIRCULAR AND OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE NAME OF THE COUNTY IN IT.

I WANTED IT TO BE CIRCULAR.

I SAID I WANTED TO STRESS OUR HERITAGE BECAUSE, UM, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE HEATH LOGO HAS THE LAKE AND, UM, KIND OF A SIMILAR STYLE ON THE ROCK ROCKWALL LOGO.

THEY USED THE LAKE.

AND I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND I THOUGHT TO ME, WHAT REALLY STRUCK HOME WAS THE HERITAGE OF ROCKWALL COUNTY.

SO I SAID TO BOTH OF THE PARTIES, I SAID, INCLUDE IN IT SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE DISCOVERY STATUTE BECAUSE IT HITS OUR HERITAGE.

IT HAS THE ROCK WALL, IT SHOWS PEOPLE, FAMILIES THAT STILL HAVE DESCENDANTS HERE IN OUR COUNTY TODAY.

SO I WANTED TO HIT THE HERITAGE THEME.

AND THE THIRD THING I SAID IS, I WANT SOMEWHERE TO SAY IN GOD WE TRUST.

OKAY, THAT'S OUR NATIONAL MOTTO.

IT WAS ADOPTED BY, UH, CONGRESS AND OUR NATION DURING EISENHOWER'S PRESIDENCY.

AND SO I WANTED TO INCLUDE THAT SOMEWHERE.

SO WE'VE GOT BEFORE US TWO DIFFERENT PACKAGES.

THE THE FIRST IS FROM FOWLER DESIGNS.

UM, JULIE FOWLER, UH, WHO IS IN THE BACK THERE IN CASE YOU WONDER WHO SHE IS.

UM, BUT SHE HAS SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL AND SHE'S GOT A PROPOSAL FOR DOING THE WORK, WHICH INCLUDES A BID.

AND IT ALSO HAS, SHE HAS TWO MOCKUPS OF A DRAFT OF THIS.

UM, AND THEN, OR ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, THERE'S MORE, I GUESS SHE HAD, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

TWO, TWO DIFFERENT STYLES.

THE D DIFFERENT COLORS AND THINGS ON BOTH OF THEM, BUT TWO DIFFERENT IDEAS.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S, IN THE SUBSEQUENT MATERIALS WERE SENT, I ASKED EACH OF THE ARTISTS TO SEND US A PORTFOLIO OF THEIR WORK.

SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS SHE'S DONE, UH, WHICH INCLUDE, UH, THE ROCKWALL POLICE ROYCE CITY'S LOGO, UM, ROYCE CITY, ISD EDUCATION FOUNDATION, AND OTHER THINGS IN THAT PACKAGE THAT, UH, FOLLOWER DESIGNS HAVE DONE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRST PACKAGE.

THE SECOND PASS PACKAGE WAS PROVIDED BY QAL DESIGN, BILLY QUENTIN'S ORGANIZATION.

I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS BILLY.

UM, AND AGAIN, HE, I TOLD HIM THE SAME THREE THINGS I WANTED IN THE LOGO.

I SAID, PUT THESE IN.

AND YOU'LL SEE HE SENT TWO DIFFERENT POSSIBLE DRAFTS ALSO, UM, UH, THE ONE SHOWING THE FOLKS AT THE DISCOVERY STATUE AT THE TOP AND THE OTHER WITH THE RED BAND AROUND IT.

UM, AND THEN HE HAS INCLUDED, AND WITHIN HIS PACKAGE, A PORTFOLIO OF SOME OTHER WORK HE'S DONE ALSO, WHICH I SENT TO EVERY, WHICH WAS SENT TO EVERYBODY.

UM, SO

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LOVE IT.

LOVE IT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I, I, I LIKE THE IDEA, UM, IN GOD WE TRUST BEING PROMINENT, THE DISCOVERY STATUE BEING PROMINENT, BUT AS FAR AS CHOOSING ONE, I AM THE LEAST QUALIFIED PERSON UP HERE TO ACTUALLY PICK WHICH ONE OF THESE WE, WE, I HAVE ONE THAT I WOULD THINK, OH, I LIKE THAT ONE.

AND I'LL, THAT ONE, IT'S ALL PERSONAL TASTE, RIGHT? IT IS.

AND I'M LIKE, YOU JUDGE, I'M NOT, DON'T CONSIDER MYSELF REAL ARTISTIC.

UM, THESE FOLKS ARE, THEY'RE VERY ARTISTIC.

UM, I LOOK AT 'EM AND I SEE TWO VERY DIFFERENT STYLES.

OKAY? UM, AND I DIDN'T SHOW EITHER OF THE ARTISTS, THE OTHER PERSON'S WORK.

I DIDN'T SHOW EITHER OF THE ARTISTS, THE OTHER PERSON'S QUOTE.

SO IT'S, THEY BOTH HAD A CLEAN SLATE.

THEY'RE BOTH VERY COMPETENT, CAPABLE PEOPLE DO BEAUTIFUL WORK.

I LOOK AT 'EM AND I SEE TWO VERY DIFFERENT STYLES.

UM, BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND HELP US REACH A DECISION.

I, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

EXCUSE ME.

UH, AND I REALLY LIKE THIS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG OF A DEAL THIS IS.

UH, AND I WOULD SUSPECT, UH, OUR IT DIRECTOR IS GETTING, UH, TWINGES OF JUST THINKING OF COMING IN AND UNDOING ALL THE LOGOS AND, AND REINSERTING A NEW LOGO.

I, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG A DEAL THAT IS.

LET, LET, CAN, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU TO SAY ONE THING? SURE.

THIS WILL NOT REPLACE OUR OFFICIAL SEAL.

WE HAVE THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE COUNTY, WHICH LOOKS LIKE YOU'D, SOMETHING YOU'D PRESS ON A NOTARY SEAL.

IT LOOKS LIKE THAT, THAT IT SAYS ROCK BALL.

YEAH.

LIKE THAT BEHIND THERE, BEHIND THE JUDGE'S SEAT.

THAT WILL NOT CHANGE.

THAT'S STILL GONNA BE THERE.

THIS IS REALLY TO PROMOTE THE COUNTY.

YEAH.

LIKE THIS, THIS, WE'RE STILL GONNA USE, IT'LL PROMOTE THE COUNTY.

IT'LL BE USED, I THINK, TO DRAW PEOPLE TO THE COUNTY TOURISM, KIND OF THAT KIND OF THOUGHT.

GOT IT.

AND WE'LL USE IT FOR THOSE KIND OF PURPOSES, I WOULD THINK.

I WOULD ASSUME WE'LL ALL GET A LOGO PIN, WE'LL WEAR IT WHEN WE GO TO CONVENTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHEREAS AGAIN, THIS, WHAT WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS, I MEAN, IT'S FINE.

IT DOES IT, UH, IT'S JUST KIND OF DATED.

THANK YOU, .

AND, UM, NOBODY USES IT.

SO, AND I THINK IF WE GO TO SOMETHING NEW, WE'LL GET SOMETHING WE USE, IT'LL KIND OF PROMOTE THE COUNTY.

I TALKED TO, UM, LISA ABOUT WHERE WE COULD GET THE MONEY AND SHE THINKS IT WOULD FALL WITHIN THE FUND 51.

UM, DO YOU REALLY THINK IT FALLS WITHIN? YES, SHE DOES.

DON'T, I THINK I'M GONNA GET A T-SHIRT THAT MADE YEAH, 50.

JUST FUND 51.

AND, AND, AND THE NEXT FOR ALL NEXT LINE WOULD SAY THAT'S A TEXDOT ROAD .

SO, BUT ANYWAY, I KNOW IT'S, BUT IT DOES 'CAUSE IT PROMOTES TOURISM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS I WENT AND LOOKED AT THE STATUTE SHE DIRECTED ME TO.

AND IT DOES THAT.

AND AGAIN, AS I TRY TO DO REGULARLY, UM, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND OUR GOALS FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND, UM, COMMISSIONER M**K, SO HOW, HOW DO WE SELECT WE MAKE A DECISION? , I MEAN, WE HAVE, IT'S OUR JOB, RIGHT? WE'VE GOTTA LOOK JOB, LOOK AT IT.

I, I KNOW WHAT I, I MEAN, IT IS HOW THE PROCEDURE FOR DOING IT, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT WE'VE GOTTA, WE GOTTA DISCUSS IT AND WE GOTTA VOTE AND WE GOTTA DO IT IN OPEN COURT BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WE DO BUSINESS AND YEP.

I, I, I LIKE THE IDEAL OF US MAKING THE DECISION, BUT I ALSO WOULD LOVE TO MAYBE HAVE SOME TYPE OF A, UM, A FORM FORM THAT OUR EMPLOYEES COULD VOTE ON.

WE COULD SEE ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE VOTES LOOK LIKE FROM THE EMPLOYEE STANDPOINT, AND WHY, WHY WOULD WE LIMIT IT TO EMPLOYEES ONLY? WELL, YOU COULD, YOU COULD TAKE IT OUT TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO, WE'RE GONNA GET IN THE WEEDS.

WE'RE GONNA REALLY IN THE WEEDS.

AND LET, LET ME SAY ONE OTHER THING.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO THIS POINT, BOTH OF THESE ARTISTS HAVEN'T BEEN PAID AND WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM.

RIGHT.

AND I'M SURE THAT AS WE WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS, IF WE THREW THESE OUT TODAY, I DON'T THINK WE COULD SAY THESE ARE THE TWO FINALS.

AND I THINK WE WOULD CONFUSE THE PUBLIC BY DOING IT.

OKAY.

UM, IN MY OPINION.

UM, BECAUSE WHEN WE TRY TO PUT THE, I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID OUR HEATH LOGO, WHICH WE STILL USE NOW WHEN I WAS BACK IN THE DAY, AND

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AND HOW DO YOU WANT THIS TO LOOK AND THAT, AND MAYBE IF, IF WE WANNA DO SOME SORT OF SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COURT OR ADD SOME OTHER PEOPLE TO IT TO WORK WITH THE ARTIST, UM, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.

AND LIKE I TOLD BOTH OF THE ARTISTS SEND ME THIS AND EVERYBODY ON THE COURT MAY HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS, RIGHT.

AND WE MAY NOT END UP USING ANY OF IT, BUT THESE ARE MY IDEAS, SO MM-HMM .

AND I THOUGHT THEY WORKED REALLY WELL, SO.

RIGHT.

NO, I AGREE.

AND I THINK USING THE ARTIST IS A GOOD IDEA.

BUT YES, THEY SHOULD BE COMPENSATED EVEN FOR THE RENDITIONS THAT THEY GIVE US, AND THEN MAYBE THE ONE THAT OBVIOUSLY IS SELECTED, THEN THERE'LL BE A DIFFERENT COMPENSATION MODEL FOR THEM.

BUT, UM, I, I, I'M FINE.

BUT SINCE, SINCE WE'VE KIND OF GOT A VERY VARIED GROUP OF PEOPLE ON IN HERE, ON THE COURT, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE US INVOLVED.

AND I, I MEAN, FRANK, I MEAN, JUDGE, IT COULD GO TO THE, TO THE, TO THE CITY, THE, THE CITIZENS.

BUT I THINK OUR EMPLOYEES WOULD HAVE SOME, SOME HA MAY ENJOY DOING AND GIVING US SOME FEEDBACK.

AND NOT ALL OF THEM WILL.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW.

NO, I'M, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

UM, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

AT SOME POINT, IT'S US MAKING A DECISION.

SURE.

WE'RE ALL GONNA PICK FIVE DIFFERENT DESIGNS.

, WE COULD, WE COULD, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE START, IS WE DECIDE WHICH ONES WE INDIVIDUALLY LIKE AND LET'S SEE WHERE WE ALIGN.

RIGHT? AND THEN IF WE ARE STUCK ON TWO, THEN MAYBE WE SEND THOSE TWO OUT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, GIVE ME YOUR VOTE ON THESE TWO IF WE'RE STUCK.

AND IF WE'RE NOT YEAH.

THEN I, I THINK WE JUST MAKE A DECISION AND, AND MOVE FORWARD.

WE JUST NEED TO BE, BE CAREFUL OF WHAT WE PICK BECAUSE IT'S GOTTA LOOK GOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, LINE ART AND IT'S GOTTA LOOK GOOD WHEN IT'S PRINTED.

EXACTLY.

CONSIDER ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

IF WE'RE USING IT TO PROMOTE, WE TAKE THAT MIND.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T EXPECT EITHER OF THE, ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY TO BE THE FINALS.

RIGHT.

BUT I DO THINK THEY GIVE US STARTING POINTS.

AND, AND I JUST, I WANT TO ASK YOU, LAUREN, UM, IT, IT APPEARS THAT THESE PROPOSALS ARE WAY DIFFERENT, BUT WHEN YOU DIVE IN, THEY'RE ALMOST THE EXACT SAME PRICE.