* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] GOOD [A) INVOCATION; Commissioner Dana Macalik ] MORNING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE. I'M GONNA CALL THE ROCKWELL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER. IT IS 9:00 AM ON JANUARY 27TH, AND YES, WE ARE A DAY LATE DUE TO INCLEMENT WEATHER, BUT GLAD EVERYBODY COULD MAKE IT. UH, I'M GONNA ASK COMMISSIONER M**K TO LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION, AND I WILL LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGES IF YOU WOULD STAND AS ABEL. THANK YOU. LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER TODAY, AND WE COME TO YOU WITH HEARTS THAT ARE FULL OF GRATITUDE DURING THESE PAST SEVERAL DAYS OF THE WINTER STORM, EVEN THE WEATHER AS IT WAS HARSH, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING YOUR PROTECTIVE HAND AND KEEPING US SAFE AND SECURE, INC. INCLUDING THOSE THAT WERE WITHOUT SHELTER OR HEAT, OUR BRAVE FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR UTILITY WORKERS. LORD, YOU ARE ALWAYS FAITHFUL. WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSING UPON THE WORK OF THIS COURT TODAY. GUIDE US AS WE MAKE DECISIONS FOR OUR COUNTY, OUR EMPLOYEES, AND OUR CITIZENS, AND THAT EACH OF OUR DISCUSSIONS GUIDE OUR INTERACTIONS. THEY STRENGTHEN OUR PARTNERSHIPS, AND THEY INSPIRE US TO SERVE WITH PURPOSE AND KINDNESS. LORD, THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR REFUGE AND OUR STRENGTH AND THE EVER PRESENT HELP IN TIMES OF TROUBLE. WE TRUST IN YOUR CARE NOW AND ALWAYS, AND IT'S IN YOUR HOLY NAME THAT I PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. JOIN ME AS WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE AMERICAN FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE LATTER OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH FURTHER BE JUSTICE FOR ALL. NOW THE TEXAS FLAG, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG ENCY OF THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. GOD BLESS, TEXAS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU EVERYONE. WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR RECOGNITION AND PRESENTATIONS. NOW. WE HAVE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE PUSHED UNTIL THE NEXT COURT DUE TO INCLEMENT WEATHER. UH, THE EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER, FOURTH QUARTER, 2025 FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS MS. JENNIFER TURNBALL. WE'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE HER AT THE NEXT COURT, BUT [b. Employee of the Quarter/Fourth Quarter 2025: Mandy Landers- Human Resources Office ] WHO WE ARE GOING TO RECOGNIZE TODAY IS THE EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER, FOURTH QUARTER, 2025, MS. MANDY LANDERS IN OUR HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE. I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MS. CAMMY WEBB. YEAH, SO, UH, JUDGE, I AM THE ONE THAT NOMINATED MANDY. UM, SO WITH GOOD WITH THE, WITH THE WORK, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH MY HISTORY OF WORKING WITH INSURANCE AND BENEFITS, I WORK PRETTY CLOSELY WITH THE HR DEPARTMENT, UM, NATURALLY. AND I JUST WANNA SAY, KEEPING BENEFITS STRAIGHT FOR 420 EMPLOYEES IS REALLY HARD, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN ALL THE SOFTWARE IS BROKEN AND IT DOESN'T WORK, WHICH IS WHAT MANDY HAS BEEN DEALING WITH FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS. SO WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET IT FIXED. WE'VE HAD MEETINGS, IT FEELS LIKE A MONTH AGO, BUT IT WAS PROBABLY JUST A WEEK AGO, JUST REPROGRAMMING AND GETTING EVERYTHING TO WORK CORRECTLY. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT SHE'S A WARRIOR. SHE HAS STOPPED MORE FIRES AND MORE THINGS FROM HAPPENING, AND IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH THAT WE TAKE TIME TO APPRECIATE SOMEONE THAT CAN SIT THERE AND HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY AUDIT EVERY SINGLE ELECTION, BECAUSE WE CAN'T TRUST THAT THE SOFTWARE WE'RE USING WORKS. AND SO JUST WATCHING HER DO THAT AND, AND, AND THE LEVEL OF DEDICATION TO GET THAT DONE HAS BEEN PRETTY REMARKABLE. SO WITH THAT, I, I NOMINATED HER. I'M GLAD THAT THE COMMITTEE APPROVED IT, AND I JUST THINK MANNY HAS DONE A TERRIFIC JOB. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. JUST TO EXPAND UPON THAT, MANDY, UM, WILL BE CELEBRATING HER 20 YEAR ANNIVERSARY WITH THE COUNTY IN JULY, SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. UM, MANDY STARTED OUT IN THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, I BELIEVE, WORKING FOR MR. JOHN BLACKWOOD, AND THEN SHE WORKED FOR LINDY, UH, I'M SORRY, LISA WILEY , UM, FOR MANY YEARS, SHE MOVED OVER TO HR IN 2020, AND SHE'S SINCE BEEN PROMOTED TO HR MANAGER BECAUSE OF ALL THE REASONS THAT COMMISSIONER STACY MENTIONED. SHE'S VERY DILIGENT AND DETAIL ORIENTED. SHE DOES SO MUCH BEHIND THE SCENES TO ENSURE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES BENEFITS ARE INTACT AND WORKING THE WAY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. UM, ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES DEPEND ON HER, WHETHER THEY KNOW IT OR NOT. SO I TOO WOULD LIKE TO THANK MANDY FOR HER SERVICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MANDY. YOU'RE WELCOME TO SAY A WORD. MANDY, IF YOU WANT TO , I, I DO WANNA. OKAY. , DON'T MISS AN OPPORTUNITY. GOOD. I HAVE A WONDERFUL BOSS AND A GREAT ASSISTANT, AND WE MAKE A GREAT TEAM. SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR Y'ALL, . THANK YOU, MANDY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT [c. Presentation of symbolic check to the Rockwall County Commissioner's Court for volunteer hours contributed by Master Gardeners in 2025 -Todd Williams - Co Extension Agent Agriculture/Natural ] BRINGS US TO PRESENTATION OF A SYMBOLIC CHECK TO THE ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR VOLUNTEER HOURS CONTRIBUTED BY MASTER GARDENERS IN 2025. MR. TODD WILLIAMS, [00:05:01] COEX EXTENSION AGENT, AGRICULTURE NATURAL, NO RESOURCES. NO, YOU JU YOU DIDN'T GET RESOURCES. YOU ONLY GOT NATURAL. OH, JUST NATURAL. OKAY. YES, SIR. ORGANIC MEMBERS OF THE COURT, IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO COME, UH, AND PRESENT TO YOU ESPECIALLY, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR THING. UH, THE ROCKWELL COUNTY MASTER GARDENERS IS MADE UP OF VOLUNTEERS WHO MAY BE FULL-TIME WORKERS, UH, WITH OTHER JOBS, OR, UH, THEY MAY BE RETIRED. UH, AND SO IT'S A GREAT, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO MIX THOSE PARTICULAR ENTITIES AS THEY WORK TOGETHER, UH, TO LEARN ABOUT, UH, HORTICULTURE. AND SO THESE MASTER GARDENERS HAVE BEEN THROUGH AT LEAST 10, 12 WEEKS OF INTENSIVE TRAINING ON HORTICULTURE. UH, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO RETURN THOSE, UH, HOURS BACK, UH, TO THE COUNTY, UH, FOR SERVICE. UH, THIS YEAR I'M VERY EXCITED TO HAVE A CHECK WITH ME FOR THE VALUE OF SYMBOLIC CHECK FOR THE VALUE OF $230,000 SIX 230,000, $66 AND 27 CENTS. UH, AND SO THAT IS FOR MORE THAN 6,613 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE BACK TO THE COUNTY IN THE EFFORTS OF HORTICULTURE AND TEACHING OTHERS ABOUT HORTICULTURE, WATER CONSERVATION, AND HOW TO, UH, WORK WITH EARTH CON, UH, PROPERTIES TO HAVE A BETTER LIVING SPACE THAT THEY HAVE. UM, AND I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES HERE WITH US TODAY, JAKE BAYES. JAKE, WILL YOU STAND UP? SO WE HAVE 72 MASTER GARDENERS, BUT YEAH, SO JAKE IS ONE OF OURS. JAKE ACTUALLY HAS A FULL-TIME JOB, UH, AND WANTED TO DO THIS AS WELL. UH, JAKE IS ONE OF OUR ADVANCED TREE SPECIALISTS AS WELL. UH, AND SO HE'S DONE TRAINING ON TREES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, UH, AS WELL AS PROPAGATION. UH, JAKE HAS A VERY VARIED INTEREST AND EXCELS AT ALL OF THOSE. UH, AND I TOLD THE REST OF 'EM, I SAID, HEY, GUYS, IF YOU WANT TO GET OUT, COME SEE US. IF NOT, PLEASE STAY SAFE. PLEASE STAY WARM. UH, AND SO I WAS EXCITED WHEN JAKE SHOWED UP, UH, THIS MORNING FOR THAT. AND SO, BUT WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, THIS PAST MONTH, UH, WE RECOGNIZE, AS I SAID, WE HAVE 73 IN THE PROGRAM, 12, UH, VOLUNTEERS WITH MORE THAN 101 HOURS OF SERVICE FOR THIS PAST YEAR. WE HAD NINE WITH MORE THAN 251 HOURS OF SERVICE FOR THIS PAST YEAR. ADDITIONALLY, UM, WE CERTIFIED 14 MORE INTO THE PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE 10 INTERNS WHO ARE WORKING ON THEIR INITIAL HOURS TO BECOME CERTIFIED MASTER GARDENERS AND MAKING THAT TOTAL OF 73 IN THE PROGRAM. AND SO, AGAIN, PRESENTING THIS CHECK FOR $230,066 AND 27 CENTS TODAY FOR THEIR SERVICE. AND WE WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR SUPPORTING THE PROGRAM. THANK YOU. TODD WILLIAMS, A FANTASTIC RESOURCE FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY AS THE MASTER GARDENERS, IF YOU'VE, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. THEY ARE ALWAYS, THEY HAVE A TENT AND A BOOTH FOR THE, UM, FARMER'S MARKET AND, AND OTHER EVENTS THAT WE HAVE AROUND THE, THE, UM, COURTHOUSE. AND THEY'RE ALWAYS THERE. AND EVERY TIME I GO BY THERE, YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE IN YOUR BOOTH, AND I'VE SEEN JAKE THERE, MY NEIGHBOR. GOOD MORNING, JAKE. UM, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE FOR OUR COUNTY, AND Y'ALL DO A GREAT JOB. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS [d. Proclamation - declaring February 7, 2026 as "Governor Greg Abbott Day' in Rockwall County, Texas ] US TO THE NEXT RECOGNITION, UH, PRESENTATION IS A PROCLAMATION DECLARING FEBRUARY 7TH, 2026, AS GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT DAY IN ROCKWALL COUNTY. THE GOVERNOR WAS REPRESENTED BY OUR GOP CHAIR, MS. SHARON HENSON, AND MS. AMY NORTON OF KATRINA PEARSON'S OFFICE. TOOK SOME PICTURES TODAY AND RECEIVED THE PROCLAMATION THAT I'D LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD NOW, UH, QUICKLY. WHEREAS GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT HAS SERVED AS THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS SINCE JANUARY 20TH, 2015, PROVIDING LEADERSHIP ON ISSUES OF PUBLIC SAFETY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, DISASTER RESPONSE, AND CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNANCE. AND WHEREAS DURING HIS TENURE, GOVERNOR ABBOTT HAS WORKED TO STRENGTHEN THE TEXAS ECONOMY, SUPPORT JOB CREATION, AND PROMOTE POLICIES AIMED AT PRESERVING INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND THE RULE OF LAW. AND WHEREAS GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT HAS DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO THE CITIZENS OF TEXAS THROUGH LEADERSHIP DURING TIMES OF CRISIS, INCLUDING NATURAL DISASTERS AND OTHER EMERGENCIES, COORDINATING STATE AND LOCAL RESOURCES TO PROTECT LIVES AND PROPERTY. AND WHEREAS THE LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE OF GOVERNOR ABBOTT HAS HAD A DIRECT AND MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS OF ROCKWALL COUNTY, CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROSPERITY, SAFETY, AND WELLBEING OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS IT IS FITTING AND PROPER THAT ROCKWALL COUNTY RECOGNIZE PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO DEDICATE THEMSELVES TO THE SERVICE OF THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE COMMISSIONER SCORED OF ROCKWALL COUNTY, STATE OF TEXAS DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE SEVENTH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2026 IS GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT DAY [00:10:01] IN ROCKWALL COUNTY, AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE AND REFLECT UPON GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S SERVICE AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO WELL DONE. GOVERNOR ABBOTT, SHARON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT IN THE INCLEMENT WEATHER. YES, CERTAINLY. UM, COURT, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S OFF Y'ALL'S DOING THIS FOR THE GOVERNOR. HE WAS VERY SURPRISED AND HONORED, AND OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, BUT HE WILL BE HERE ON THE SEVENTH. SO WE'LL GET TO, UH, UH, MAKE THAT PRESENTATION AGAIN ON THAT DAY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS HONOR, AND I KNOW THEY HAVE EXPRESSED TO ME WHAT A GREAT, UH, HONOR THAT IT IS THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE DOING THAT FOR HIM WHEN HE'S GOING TO BE HERE. SO THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, SHARON. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM ONE, THE PUBLIC FORUM. THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COURT ABOUT ANY COUNTY MATTERS. UH, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP, BUT IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD NOW SEEING NO ON, WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM [2. Discuss/Act on updates of the Strategic Plan 2050 Implementation Management Plan, and all related issues; (Commissioner Macalik) ] TWO, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN 2050 IMPLEMENTATION MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, BEFORE I KICK IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER M**K, UH, ISSUE AN APOLOGY. WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR QUARTERLY MEETING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY AND HAD TO CANCEL IT BECAUSE WE HAD TO MOVE COURT FROM YESTERDAY TO TODAY. SO WE'RE, WE'LL, WE'LL RESCHEDULE THAT VERY QUICKLY. YES, COMMISSIONER M**K. THANK YOU, JUDGE. YES, WE WILL. UM, UM, CAMMIE AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, THOUGH, TO BE, UM, TO, TO START KIND OF GETTING MORE DEF DEF DEFINITIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT AS WE'RE PREPARING TO GO LIVE WITH THIS ON OUR WEBSITE THE 1ST OF APRIL, SOMEWHERE AROUND THE FIRST, I'M NOT GONNA SAY APRIL FOOL'S DAY, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT THAT. BUT ANYWAY, UM, WE, WE HAD, UM, A ZOOM CALL WITH INVISIO, AND WE'RE, WE, WE'VE ALL COMPLETED THE TRAINING WITH INVISIO, BUT UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE SOFTWARE ON A DAILY BASIS, AND I'M GONNA SPEAK, I'M GONNA JUST POINT THE FINGER AT DANA RIGHT NOW, THAT EVEN THOUGH I PUT A LOT OF STUFF INTO IT BACK IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, UNLESS YOU'RE WORKING THAT SOFTWARE ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS, IT'S, I, I COULDN'T REMEMBER SOME OF THE STEPS. OKAY. AND, AND, AND SO CAMMIE, KUDOS TO YOU FOR HELPING ME, UM, DURING THE COLD WEATHER AND BE WORKING ON IT. BUT THE REAL THING I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS IS WE ARE GOING TO RESCHEDULE, AS YOU MENTIONED, JUDGE, THE MEETING THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR TODAY. UM, CAMIE IS PUTTING OUT, GO AHEAD, CAMIE, FEBRUARY 11TH, YOU'VE GOT THE, IT'S PROBABLY OKAY, FEBRUARY 11TH IN HERE. AND, UM, AND IT'S FAIRLY, UM, I HATE TO USE THE WORD MANDATORY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BUT IT IS THAT IMPORTANT OF A MEETING THAT WE'RE, WE WILL BE GOING OVER EVERYONE'S, UM, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR GOALS THAT THE GOAL OWNERS HAVE AND THAT THE, THE TEAM THAT IS WORKING WITH EACH ONE OF US THAT WILL BE THERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO, IT'LL HAVE A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF SUBSTANCE TO THE MEETING, UM, AS ALL OF OUR MEETINGS DO. BUT THIS ONE IS PRETTY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE ON A TIMELINE TO HOPEFULLY MEET THAT DEADLINE OF TRYING TO GO LIVE WITH THIS ON, UM, FOR, FROM A TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY STANDPOINT, WHICH IS YOUR GOAL, JUDGE. SO, AND GET THIS OUT FOR OUR CITIZENS SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. CAMMI, DID I MISS ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT? OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER M**K? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL MOVE ON [3. Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana) ] TO AGENDA ITEM THREE, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE COURTHOUSE, COURTROOM ADDITIONS, THIRD FLOOR PROJECT, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER ALANA. SO WE ARE, UH, VERY CLOSE TO BEING DONE, UM, UM, NOT COMPLETELY WITH ALL THE MONEY, BUT WE HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT I THINK IS OVER WITH CRAIG TO REVIEW ON THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION. YOU WERE COPIED ON IT, SO , SO HE'S LIKE, HE SAYS WHAT? I RECOGNIZE THAT BOOK. YEAH, . BUT AS SOON AS THAT'S REVIEWED, THEN I'LL BE ABLE TO SIGN OFF, UM, ON THAT. AS SOON AS CRAIG REVIEWS AND THE AUDITOR REVIEWS, I'LL BE ABLE TO SIGN OFF ON THAT SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DOCUMENT. THE PUNCH LIST HAS BEEN COMPLETED. UH, SO WE'RE ALMOST THERE. VERY, VERY CLOSE. THAT'S THE UPDATE. WE'LL HAVE SOME AUDITING THINGS TO GO THROUGH AFTER THAT. UM, JUST LIKE COMMISSIONER STACEY HAS RECENTLY, UH, GONE THROUGH WITH THE ANNEX. AND THEN WE'LL WRAP THIS PROJECT UP. WONDERFUL. THAT IS THE, THE WORDS YOU WANT TO HEAR. WE'LL WRAP THIS PROJECT UP. WELL DONE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOANA. UH, THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA [4. Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the American Rescue Plan monies and the County Annex project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy) ] ITEM FOUR, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONIES AND THE COUNTY ANNEX PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY? YEAH, SO, UH, WE ARE ALMOST THERE ON THIS END. UM, WE HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF PAY APPS THAT Y'ALL ARE GONNA SEE ON THE NEXT COURT. THOSE HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND GIVEN TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE YESTERDAY. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO GONNA BE A PCO 71, WHICH HAS GIVEN THE COUNTY BACK ANOTHER $40,000. [00:15:02] UM, OUR INDEPENDENT AUDITOR HAS AGREED WITH ALL THESE NUMBERS, SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME COURT ACTION NEXT TIME, AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE A FINAL CHANGE ORDER AND A FINAL AUDIT REPORT, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, UM, IN OUR HANDS. UM, AND THEN THE PROJECT, IT DID RUN $3.7 MILLION UNDER BUDGET AS IT SITS NOW, AND IT'S GONNA HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 40,000 COMING BACK OUT OF IT. SO IT'S GONNA HIT ABOUT ALMOST 3.75 MILLION UNDER BUDGET WHEN IT'S DONE. SO WE ARE, WE ARE DONE WITH IT. WE ARE IN THE FINAL CLOSEOUT, AND IT'S JUST RIGHT NOW JUST KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THE PAPERWORK. WE'VE GOTTA DO THE PAY APPS, WE'VE GOTTA APPROVE THE PCO, THEN WE'LL GET A FINAL CHANGE ORDER AND A FINAL AUDIT REPORT, AND THEN THAT'LL ACTUALLY BE CLOSED AND OFF OF OUR AGENDA FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THREE AND A HALF YEARS, . WONDERFUL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER STACY? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STACY, APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS ON THAT. THAT TAKES US TO [5. Discuss/Act on the Sheriff's remodel project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy) ] AGENDA ITEM FIVE, DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE NICO TAKE THIS ONE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE NEW, UH, THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO GIVE THIS BRIEF UPDATE ON THE SHERIFF OFFICE RENOVATION. UH, STARTING WITH SAFETY, WE HAVE NO INCIDENTS TO REPORT ON. UH, WE DID RECEIVE A SITE SPECIFIC SAFETY PLAN FROM THE ROOFING CONTRACTOR THAT WILL BE, UM, PERFORMING SOME WORK, UH, WHILE WE'RE INSTALLING RTS, HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK. UM, WE'LL ALSO BE RECEIVING A CRANE OPERATORS SAFETY CHECKLIST AS WELL. UM, AS FAR AS BUDGET, WE'RE STILL PERFORMING UNDER BUDGET. UH, THE COSTS YOU CAN SEE IN THE TABLE ARE FORECASTED FOR JANUARY'S WORK IN PLACE. UH, THE 1,950,000, UM, WE HAVE THREE PCOS IN THE WORKS, ALL OF WHICH ARE ZERO COST CHANGE ORDERS. UM, WITH THE ONLY ONE HITTING THE CONTINGENCY WOULD BE THE PCO 12, UH, WHICH IS NOT ON THIS AGENDA. BUT, UH, ONCE IT'S DONE BEING REVIEWED, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT TODAY WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT PCO 13, UH, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL CONCRETE POUR BACK. UM, NOT MUCH MORE TO UPDATE ON THE BUDGET. ANY QUESTIONS? YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR NICO ON THE BUDGET? NOPE. OKAY. WELL, MOVING ON TO THE SCHEDULE. UM, THERE ARE NO DELAY CLAIMS TO REPORT ON. AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ROUGHLY 40% COMPLETE WITH THE PROJECT. UM, I WILL SAY, UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR RIGHT NOW TO DEVELOP A MORE ACCURATE CURRENT SCHEDULE. UM, THEY HAVE SINCE DOUBLED BACK ON THEIR, THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO CATCH UP TO THE CONTRACT SCHEDULE. UM, SO I'M SUSPECTING THERE WILL BE SOME DELAYS IN THE FUTURE THAT ARE CLAIMED. UM, BUT I'LL SHARE THOSE ONCE WE'VE LEGITIMIZED, UH, THEIR CLAIMS. SO THAT'S THE UPDATE ON THE SCHEDULE. UM, PROCUREMENT WISE, WE ARE STILL, WE ARE ALMOST DONE WORKING THROUGH THE EXTERIOR SIGNAGE PACKAGE FOR THE SHERIFF, WITH THE SHERIFF TEAM. UH, WE RECENTLY RECEIVED NEW DRAWINGS FOR A SI NUMBER FOUR. UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REVIEW MEETING TO GO OVER THOSE TODAY. UH, THE FINAL FURNITURE DESIGN MEETING IS THIS WEEK ON FRIDAY. UM, SO WE'LL HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO GET ORDERS PLACED REALLY SOON. UM, THE PANEL BOARDS, LIGHTING FIXTURES, FLOORING, STOREFRONTS, AND FURNITURE ARE ALL LONG LEAD ITEMS THAT WE'RE TRACKING, UM, THAT ARE, ARE VITAL TO THE SCHEDULE QUALITY CONTROL. UH, THERE ARE NO ISSUES TO REPORT ON AS OF THIS MOMENT. UH, WE CONTINUE TO WALK THE SITE WITH THE SHERIFF TEAM TO DOCUMENT ANY NON-CONFORMING, UM, PRODUCTS. UH, THE NEXT CODE COMPLIANCE INSPECTIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE, OUR END WALL, UH, IN-WALL INSPECTION, THAT WILL BE A PARTIAL, A PARTIAL APPROVAL. UH, REALLY WE CAN'T GET A FINAL APPROVAL UNTIL THE ENTIRE PROJECT'S DONE. SO IT'LL, IT'LL BE A PARTIAL, BUT IT'LL ACTUALLY KIND OF BE A FINAL JUST FOR PHASE AREA ONE. UM, AND THE SAME THING FOR CEILING OVERHEAD, WHICH WOULD FOLLOW THE END WALL. UH, WE HAVE SCHEDULED OR ARE SCHEDULING A PRELIMINARY ACCESSIBILITY INSPECTION, UM, JUST TO TRY AND CATCH UP ON ANY, MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY HICCUPS LATER DOWN THE ROAD, UH, ACCESSIBILITY WISE, UM, AND HAVE TO DO ANY REWORK. I THOUGHT IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO [00:20:01] GET THEM HERE AT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE WRAPPING UP PHASE ONE, UM, CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. THE PAST FEW WEEKS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OVERHEAD AND IN SLAB, MEP CONNECTIONS, UH, MAINLY TO THE WAREHOUSE AREA, UM, WHICH IS, IF YOU CAN SEE THE PHASING DIAGRAM BELOW, IT'S, UH, ACTUALLY WHERE MY CURSOR IS. THIS IS THE WAREHOUSE AREA. UM, SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON MEP CONNECTIONS THERE, AS WELL AS FRAMING, UH, DRYWALL TAPE AND TEXTURE IS GOING ON THROUGHOUT PHASE AREA ONE, WHICH IS THE WHOLE, UH, GREEN AREA BELOW. UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON COORDINATION FOR ROOF PENETRATIONS. AS I MENTIONED, THE ROOFTOP UNITS, THE AC UNITS ARE BEING INSTALLED HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK. UM, SO WITH THOSE COME PENETRATIONS FOR THINGS SUCH AS ELECTRICAL AND, UH, UM, PLUMBING, UH, SO WE WERE COORDINATING THAT WITH THE ROOFER. UM, WE WERE WORKING ON SITE LOGISTICS AND PHASING PLAN FOR THE, UH, THE CRANE OPERATIONS. UH, THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE'LL BE FOCUSED ON DRYWALL TAPE AND TEXTURE AND PAINT. UH, JUST CONTINUING THAT THROUGHOUT. UM, CONTINUING THE RELOCATION OF LOW VOLTAGE TO THE MDF CLOSET, UH, WHICH IS THE MAIN DISTRIBUTION FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING, ALL THE IT INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS, UH, THE AC INSTALLATION AND COMPLETING ALL THE DUCTING, UH, SO WE CAN CLOSE CEILINGS. UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PHASING DIAGRAM, I THOUGHT IT'D BE GOOD TO KIND OF SHOW, UH, THE, THIS PHASE ONE IS REALLY A LARGE PORTION OF THIS PROJECT. UM, SO WE'RE REALLY GETTING THROUGH THE BULK OF IT, UM, ON THIS FIRST PHASE. AND THEN WE'LL BE HEADING INTO THE BLUE AREA. WE'LL BE PHASE TWO. AND THEN, UH, THE PINK AREA IS PHASE THREE. UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE UPDATE. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS FOR NICO? THANK YOU, NICO. YEP, YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. THAT [6. Discussion and presentation of Texas PACE Program by the Texas PACE Authority, and all related issues; (Commissioner Ga Ilana) ] BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM SIX, DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION OF TEXAS PACE PROGRAM BY THE TEXAS PACE AUTHORITY AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. I KNOW THIS IS BEING PUSHED, BUT COMMISSIONER GOANA, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? YEAH, NO, I THINK, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST WAIT TILL THE NEXT COURT, UH, STEVE MINICK, UH, GONNA COME UP AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THE PROGRAM. UM, THERE'S CURRENTLY ONE IN FATE AND IN THE CITY OF ROCKWALL, AND SO WE'LL INVESTIGATE IT HERE, UH, AT THE COUNTY. UH, BUT WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK STEVE SOME, UH, GOOD QUESTIONS AFTER HIS PRESENTATION IN A COUPLE WEEKS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GALANA. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON [7. Discuss/Act regarding the Rockwall County Master Thoroughfare Plan update and its implementation, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)] TO AGENDA ITEM SEVEN, DISCUSS AN ACT REGARDING THE ROCKWALL COUNTY MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UPDATE, AND ITS IMPLEMENTATION AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LICHTY. THANK YOU, JUDGE. YEAH, WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING FOR THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN WITH FREEZE NICHOLS TWO WEEKS AGO. UM, ERICA IS OUR POINT PERSON, AND SHE WILL SPEAK HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. UM, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS WE WANNA TALK ABOUT ABOUT CLEANUP, BUT I WILL DEAL WITH THAT, UM, AFTER, UH, SHE'S KIND OF GIVEN US OUR UPDATE. GOOD MORNING, ERICA BRIDGES COUNTY ENGINEER. UM, I AM THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR OUR ROCK WALL COUNTY MASTER, THE MASTER, THE FOR PLANNED UPDATE. UM, AND SO YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM ME KIND OF FREQUENTLY, I THINK ONCE A MONTH OR SO, GIVING YOU AN UPDATE IN BETWEEN TIMES. UH, YOU WILL GET A FEW UPDATES FROM, UM, OUR, OUR, UH, CONSULTANT FRIES AND NICHOLS. UM, BUT IN THE MEANTIME YOU GET ME. UM, JUST A QUICK LITTLE OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT. UH, OUR CURRENT MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN WAS, UH, A ADOPTED IN 2019. UM, AND SINCE THEN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE COUNTY, AND THERE'S CONTINUING TO BE GROWTH AND CHANGES IN DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, UH, OBVIOUSLY INCREASING TRANSPORTATION DEMANDS. SO, UM, IT'S TIME FOR US TO UPDATE THAT MASTER THOROUGH OF AIR PLAN. IT IS A 16 MONTH PROJECT, UH, AND IT KICKED OFF RECENTLY AS COMMISSIONER LTI MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING. UM, AND WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH FREEZE NICHOLS ON THE, THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT. SO, CURRENT STATUS, UH, WE'RE IN THE DATA COLLECTION MODE RIGHT NOW. THE COUNTY HAS BEEN PROVIDING EVERYTHING THAT FRIES NICHOLS HAS A HAS ASKED FOR WITH REGARD TO MAPS, UH, AND PICTURES, AND, UM, SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THAT INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED GATHERED. UH, ITS HAS PROVIDED BOND PROJECT INFORMATION TO FRIES NICHOLS. UM, AND THEN THE COUNTY HAS FORMALLY REQUESTED [00:25:01] DATA FROM NCT COG. UM, THERE WAS ALSO A MEETING LAST WEEK WITH JIM BARTOW AND FRIESA NICHOLS WORKING ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE, UH, BECAUSE ENGAGEMENT'S GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. UH, AND FRIESEN NICHOLS IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON DEMOGRAPHICS. THEY HOPE TO HAVE THAT FINISHED UP, UH, BY THE END OF FEBRUARY. THAT'S THE GOAL. UH, AND THEN ALL OF THIS IS LEADING UP TO THE ENGAGEMENT PHASE. SO THE ENGAGEMENT INVOLVES, UH, JUST AS IT SOUNDS, ENGAGING WITH THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND PUBLIC OUTREACH. UH, OUR KEY STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDE FOLKS LIKE, UH, TXDOT, NCT, COG, THE MUNICIPALITY REPS, SCHOOL DISTRICT REPS, UM, HOA REPRESENTATIVES, DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORT CONSORTIUM. UM, ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS, AND I'M KIND OF SKIPPING BACK HERE, BUT ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS IS THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE. AND I'M GONNA TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO GET A, A COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER VERY QUICKLY SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, THIS ENGAGEMENT PIECE. UH, THERE WILL ALSO BE INDIVIDUAL INTERVIEWS WITH EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE, THEY WANNA SIT DOWN FOR 45 MINUTES OR SO WITH EACH ONE OF YOU, UM, FREEZING NICHOLS DEATH, UH, AND JUST TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE, THE STATUS OF OUR TRANSPORTATION, UH, AND, AND OUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK IN THE COUNTY, AND AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE CONCERNS. JUST BASICALLY GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND INPUT SO THAT HOPEFULLY I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU AND TRYING TO SET THOSE MEETINGS UP FOR SOME TIME EARLY FEBRUARY. UM, AND THEN WE'RE WORKING ON SETTING UP THE FIRST TOWN HALL MEETING. I'LL TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. AGAIN, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT, UH, TALK WITH STAFF, TALK WITH FREEZE AND NICHOLS, AND JUST GIVE ALL OF THEIR INPUT ON THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. SO WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON GETTING THAT FIRST MEETING IN APRIL, REALLY SOLIDIFIED. AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST, I SHOULD SAY FIRST ROUND OF MEETINGS. SO THERE WILL BE TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. AGAIN, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN A SECOND. THERE'S ALSO GONNA BE AN ONLINE PUBLIC SURVEY THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS THAT CAN'T MAKE IT OUT. WE STILL WANNA HEAR FROM ALL THE CITIZENS OF ROCKWALL COUNTY, UH, AND GET THEIR INPUTS. SO ALL THE ONLINE SURVEY DATA IS GONNA BE COLLECTED AND UTILIZED AND, AND, AND CREATING THE PLAN. AND THAT'S GONNA BE OPEN FOR APPROXIMATELY 30 DAYS. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLAN ACTUALLY GETS ADOPTED, UM, SO THAT ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO COME AND AND COMMENT ON IT, OF COURSE, HAS THE OPPORTUNITY. SO NEXT STEPS, UM, WE ARE LOOKING FOR APPOINTMENT OF A PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE. UM, AND THEN WE NEED TO SET UP MEETINGS. SO THE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH Y'ALL, UM, THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE FIRST MEETING IS GONNA BE IN FEBRUARY, UH, STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, UM, AS WELL AS THE TOWN HALL, THAT FIRST MEETING IN APRIL. AND I'M GONNA TURN THIS PART OVER TO COMMISSIONER LTE, UH, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE, IF HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO. UM, YEAH, THANKS ERICA. UM, AND BY THE WAY, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE HER. WE HAD SUCH A GREAT HIRE LAST MAY WHEN SHE CAME ON BOARD, AND SHE'S DOING A FABULOUS JOB, SO THANK YOU. AGREED. OH, THANK YOU. UM, THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE IS, I, I, IN YOUR PACKET, YOU SHOULD SEE A MEMORANDUM FROM FREEZE AND NICHOLS, WHICH LAYS OUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE. I KNOW WE JUST FINISHED THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, AND THERE WAS A VERY LARGE STEERING COMMITTEE ON THAT. THIS IS NOT WHAT THAT WILL BE. THIS WILL BE A MORE, HOPEFULLY MORE OF A WORKING GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO REALLY WANNA WORK TO GET THE PLAN FINISHED AND THEN TO WORK AFTERWARDS AS WE IMPLEMENT IT. IF YOU'LL SEE ON THEIR SCREEN, IT SAYS THERE'S EIGHT TO 12 MEMBERS. UM, AND IN THIS MEMO FROM FRIES NICHOLS, IT HIGHLIGHTED THE TYPES OF PEOPLE WE'RE LOOKING FOR. PEOPLE WITH COUNTY EXPERIENCE, TECHNICAL EXPERTS IN ROADWAYS, COUNTY PLANNER ENGINEERING, PUBLIC WORK [00:30:01] SPECIALISTS, EMERGENCY RESPONSE SERVICES, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ISD, WATER AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT, REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPMENT AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES. THERE'LL ONLY BE EIGHT TO 12 PEOPLE. SO THE BIG QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THESE PEOPLE AND WHO ARE THEY? AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER TO THE COURT AND SUGGEST THAT WE DO, IS WE HAVE TO GET THIS DONE VERY QUICKLY. SO BETWEEN NOW AND THE REST OF THIS WEEK, I WOULD, HERE'S MY SUGGESTION THAT EVERYBODY ON THE COURT CAN RECOMMEND PEOPLE THEY THINK ARE APPROPRIATE TO SIT ON THIS COMMITTEE. AND THEN I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TRUST, UM, COMMISSIONER M**K AND I TO SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH THIS AND PICK WHO THOSE FOLKS WILL FINALLY BE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ERICA. AND THE REASON I SAY COMMISSIONER M**K, 'CAUSE SHE'S JUST, AGAIN, JUST BEEN THROUGH THIS PROJECT, HEADING IT UP ON THE, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN. AND SHE AND I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN. WE HAVE, UM, I GOT SOME OF THE THOUGHTS SHE HAD ON HOW SHE CHOSE THE STEERING COMMITTEE. AGAIN, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE, THERE WAS PROBABLY 50 OR 60 PEOPLE ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE, SOME OF WHOM, UH, WERE VERY ACTIVE AND SOME OF WHOM WERE LESS ACTIVE. UM, EACH OF THE EIGHT TO 12 PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE HAVE GOTTA BE COMMITTED TO IT, AND THEY GOTTA BE WILLING TO WORK. UM, SO, UH, THAT'S MY SUGGESTION, AND I'LL BE OPEN TO YOUR THOUGHTS AND DISCUSS IT WITH YOU. UM, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I HAD IN MIND. IT MAKES ME HAPPY THAT I DON'T HAVE TO STRONG ARM ANYBODY IN INTO DOING THIS. BUT, UH, I, SINCE WE NEED TO SEAT THIS COMMITTEE, THAT'S TRULY THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT AND GET THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE SITTING AT THE TABLE. UM, SO NO, I, IF YOU TWO ARE WILLING TO, TO DO IT, I, I THINK THIS IS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO TO, TO MOVE FORWARD. WELL, I'VE LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO THAT YOU ASK PEOPLE BEFORE YOU VOLUNTEER THEM AND . SO YEAH, I ASKED DANA LAST WEEK, AND SHE AND I ARE BOTH WILLING TO DO THIS. AND, UM, AGAIN, WE, WE WANT INPUT FROM YOU ALL. OBVIOUSLY WE GOT FOUR COMMISSIONERS, FOUR PRECINCTS, AND A JUDGE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. SO I WOULD IMAGINE WE WOULD GET INPUT FROM EACH OF YOU ON PEOPLE IN YOUR PRECINCT WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED, BUT MAYBE NOT PEOPLE YOU THINK ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS. BUT IF YOU CAN GET US NAMES BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, THEN NEXT WEEK, UH, COMMISSIONER M**K AND I CAN SIT DOWN AND CREATE AND SEAT THIS COMMITTEE. AND IF, ASSUMING THAT IS OKAY WITH EVERYBODY, I WILL INCLUDE THAT IN A MOTION AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION. AND THIS IS THE ONE THING THAT WE GOTTA DO RIGHT NOW. WE, I, WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING WITH FREEZE NICHOLS, I SAID, WELL, WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT AT THIS MEETING, AND THEN WE COULD MAKE A DECISIONS IN THE SECOND MEETING OR THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. AND THEY SAID, NO, YOU NEED THESE PEOPLE. SAID, WE GOTTA MEET WITH THEM, GOTTA MEET WITH 'EM QUICKLY. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. I LIKE THAT. AND I LIKE THAT THIS, THIS SOM PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE SCREEN, THIS HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY FRIESA NICHOLS. AND THIS IS A PROVEN, AND AND YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS, ERICA, I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS A PROVEN PRO PROCESS THAT MM-HMM. THAT FRIESA NICHOLS HAS EMPLOYED WITH MULTIPLE, UM, PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS AND COMMUNITIES THAT THEY'VE DONE THIS WITH. SO WE'RE NOT RECREATE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT CREATING SOMETHING FROM, FROM THAT, YOU KNOW? SO, AND I DO LIKE THAT IT'S GONNA BE A SMALLER GROUP. UM, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THESE PROJECTS. YEAH. AND, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE PEOPLE WE'RE LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF THESE ESPECIALLY, UM, UH, THERE WOULD BE, YOU COULD MAKE THIS GROUP EXPAND REALLY QUICKLY. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MADE SURE TO INCLUDE WAS SOMEONE WHO COMES AT IT FROM A HOME HOAX PERSPECTIVE. UM, WELL, THERE'S A HUNDRED PLUS HOAS IN OUR COUNTY, BUT WE'RE NOT, NOT GONNA PROMOTE, PUT ONE PERSON FROM EACH HOA OBVIOUSLY. SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE EASY TO PICK, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR SUGGESTIONS AND THOUGHTS FROM YOU ALL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN. I DON'T THINK SHE'S DONE YET, ARE YOU? OH, SORRY, ERICA. CARRY ON. I DIDN'T MEAN TO PREEMPT NO, IT, THE PRESENTATION. NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE FINE. YOU'RE FINE. THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE, I PROMISE. UM, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT THE TEXT KIND OF RAN OVER WHEN I CONVERTED IT TO POWERPOINT. I DID IT ON AN APPLE MAC. SO , SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, SO THE FIRST TOWN HALL MEETING, IT'S IN APRIL, BUT APRIL'S GONNA GET HERE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT. SO, UM, WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT LOCATIONS. WE NEED TWO LOCATIONS. THIS WAS SOMETHING Y'ALL WERE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT AND DISCUSS, UM, IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS. BUT, UM, LIBERTY [00:35:01] HALL SEEMED LIKE ONE OF THE LOCATIONS Y'ALL WERE DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN. UM, BUT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE A CITY HALL, UH, OR, OR HAVING, HAVING THE SECOND LOCATION AS, AS A SCHOOL, IF YOU WANTED TO DO NORTH SIDE OF I 30, SOUTH SIDE OF I 30 OR EAST SIDE VERSUS WEST SIDE AS, AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING DIFFERENT MEETING OPTIONS. AND THEN THERE COULD BE A THIRD LOCATION FOR THE SECOND ROUND OF MEETINGS IF YOU'D LIKE. YEAH. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONE WHERE WE DISCUSSED THIS WHEN WE APPROVED THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN PROJECT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TRY TO GET OUT OF LIBERTY HALL FOR THE FIRST MEETINGS, AND WE GOT, SO WE HAVE TWO OF THEM. THEY'LL BOTH BE THE SAME FORMAT. THEY, AGAIN, WE NEED INPUT FROM Y'ALL WHERE YOU WANNA PUT 'EM, BUT I WOULD THINK WE WOULD HAVE ONE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE COUNTY, ONE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO GET THERE AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL AROUND THE COUNTY LOOKING FOR THEIR INPUT, NOT JUST THE CITY OF ROCKWALL. UM, I'LL LET YOU ADDRESS, THERE'S SOMEONE IN THE CLOUD RAISE THEIR HAND. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA RECOGNIZE THEM AT THIS POINT OR NOT, BUT WE HAVE THE EVENT CENTER CITY. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU PLEASE STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE? ALL RIGHT. NO, HE JUST SAID THERE'S THE EVENT CENTER AT ROY CITY. YEAH. THAT, THAT COULD BE, THAT, THAT COULD BE A GREAT SUGGESTION. UH, UH, AND I KNOW, AND I'VE ALSO THOUGHT THAT WE'VE GOT EITHER HEATH CITY HALL OR THE, UM, THE HIDDEN CREEK EVENT CENTER IN HEATH. THAT WAY IF WE DID SOMETHING IN ROYCE CITY, YOU'D BE AT THE NORTHEAST AND THE SOUTHWEST DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT. I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT FIRST MEETING WHERE WE GET OUT SIDE OF THE LIBERTY HALL. THE FINAL MEETING, THE SECOND ROUND WILL DEFINITELY BE IN A LIBERTY HALL SITUATION. YEAH, I WOULD THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS IN CHARGE OF THE, UH, PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE THAT DECISION. I MEAN, IT'S HAPPY TO DO IT. AND, UM, I, THE, THE ONLY, THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD HAVE IS THAT THE ROYCE CITY EVENT CENTER IS IN A DIFFERENT COUNTY. IT'S IN HUNT COUNTY. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FACTORS INTO IT, UM, ASKING PEOPLE TO LEAVE THE COUNTY TO DO A COUNTYWIDE THOROUGHFARE. I'M JUST, IF IT, IF IT DOESN'T, IF IT DOES, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. UM, I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, BUT YES, AND I APPRECIATE YOU POINT OUT. BUT SHOWS WERE GOOD NEIGHBORS, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT CAN, IT CAN WORK. I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY A GOOD LOCATION AND IT CAN HOLD A GOOD GROUP. UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER. I DO LIKE EAST AND WEST RATHER THAN NORTH AND SOUTH. UM, BUT AGAIN, AS YOU AND I WENT BACK AND FORTH WHEN WE WERE WRITING A CONTRACT, I WANNA DO 'EM ALL JUST AT LIBERTY HALL. I THINK CONSISTENCY WORKS, BUT I'M NOT GONNA DIE ON THAT HILL. I MEAN, IF WE WANNA DO EAST AND WEST, THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO ME. AND OF COURSE, THE ONLINE SURVEY WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY THAT CAN'T MAKE IT. SO WE, WE WANT THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. THEN I'LL WORK WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER M**K AND TI ON, ON THAT PIECE OF IT, THE LOCATION. WHAT ABOUT THE DATES? DOES, DOES ANYBODY SEE, THESE ARE THE DATES THAT FREEZE AND NICHOLS WAS AVAILABLE, SO IF, IF Y'ALL KNOW OF ANY CONFLICTS WITH YOUR CALENDARS, BUT OTHERWISE, I'M TRYING TO SET UP YOUR MEETINGS AS WELL, YOUR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS. SO I CAN, I'M GOING TO EMAIL EACH OF YOU DIRECTLY AND JUST LET ME KNOW. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DATES RIGHT NOW. SORRY, I WASN'T TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. NO, I'M OUTTA TOWN APRIL 30TH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THEY, THEY ALL WORK. I THINK, I THINK I TECHNICALLY LEAVE THE 29TH. OKAY. GREAT. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT. UM, ALL RIGHT, NOW I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY'S SO INCLINED. I WILL BE HAPPY TO, TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, UM, COMMISSIONER CELICK AND COMMISSIONER LICHTY TO APPOINT THE MEMBERS OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN PROJECT. AND ALSO TO SELECT THE DATES AND LOCATIONS OF THE FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC MEETINGS. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. STACY, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, AND THANK YOU, ERICA. [8. Discuss/Act on reaffirming the Resolution Exempting Food Items From Formal Bid Procedures pursuant to Texas Local Government Code ยง262.024(a)(8), and all related issues; (Auditor) ] UH, THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM EIGHT, DISCUSS AND ACT ON REAFFIRMING THE RESOLUTION. EXEMPTING FOOD ITEMS FROM FORMAL BID PROCEDURES PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 2 6 2 0.024, PARENTHETICAL EIGHT, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. AUDITOR? YES, [00:40:01] SIR. UH, THANK YOU. THE, UH, THIS RESOLUTION, WE'RE JUST REALLY ASKING YOU TO UPDATE A PROCEDURE. UH, IF YOU RECALL, THE COUNTY JAIL HAD USED A CONTRACT FOR THEIR FOOD SERVICES, UH, FOR A YEAR AND DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD GO BACK TO THEIR NORMAL WAY OF DOING IT WITH THEIR OWN KITCHEN STAFF, UH, TO DO SO. UH, WE NEED YOU TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO TAKE THAT DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION THAT THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO BID EACH ITEM OF FOOD. UH, THE RESOLUTION WAS ATTACHED, AND THEN THERE IS ALSO A FOOD PURCHASING QUOTATION FORM. UH, BASICALLY THEY JUST EMAIL IT TO MY STAFF AND SHOW THAT THEY ASK FOR A FEW, YOU KNOW, GET A QUOTE FROM MAYBE THREE DIFFERENT VENDORS ON MAYBE FIVE ITEMS TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE ASKING THAT THEY'RE COMPETITIVELY LOOKING FOR, UH, THE BEST PRICING. ANY QUESTIONS? UM, ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS, NO ISSUE THERE. BUT, UM, LOOKING AT THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT YOU CIRCULATED, AND THANKS FOR DOING THAT IN SECTION 2 62, 0 24 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE. UM, IT, IT PROVIDES A WHOLE LIST OF ITEMS HERE THAT WE CAN CHOOSE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO BID. UH, AND I'M WONDERING, HAVE WE APPROVED ALL THESE OTHER ITEMS AND DO WE USE 'EM FOR THOSE ALREADY? YES, SIR. UH, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE USED THEM, WE TRY TO BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO USE IT EXEMPT DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION BASED ON THAT 2 62 UHHUH . UH, USUALLY I'LL, I'LL MENTION IT WHEN YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO HIRE SOMEONE OR, OR DO SOMETHING, BUT NO, WE HAVE NOT JUST DONE A BLANKET OF COURT ACTION. YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION OF ALL OF THESE ITEMS. QUESTION. NO, SIR. SHOULD, SHOULD WE, I, I THINK THE BASIS, AND I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I MEAN, I'M JUST A LOGICAL FEMALE, I GUESS , NO PUN INTENDED, . OH, I, I BELIEVE EVERY GUY IN THE ROOM SAYS NOTHING. . THEY ARE SMART MEN. SMART . NO, THAT WAS JUST ME BEING SILLY. I'M SORRY. I'VE BEEN COOPED UP IN THE HOUSE FOR QUITE A FEW DAYS. CASE . ANYWAYS, I THINK THE REASONING BEHIND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE IS, IS THAT YOU'RE USING THESE WHEN NECESSARY, NOT JUST TO SAY THAT YOU'RE DOING THEM ACROSS THE BOARD. THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION OF IT. YEAH. THESE, UH, DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTIONS ARE PRETTY BROAD. I MEAN, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING IT DOESN'T COVER IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THE ENTIRE THING. YEAH. WELL, AND AT THE SAME TIME, SOME OF THEM ARE THINGS THAT WILL COME UP FAIRLY QUICKLY. YEAH, RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. PERSONAL OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE. UH, I MEAN, THAT'S A, YEAH. YES, MA'AM. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE IS, WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA DO SOME OVERALL, IF, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO UPDATE THEM. I MEAN, PAST COURTS HAVE, HAVE CHOSEN THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, SO WE DON'T BRING THAT BACK FORWARD TO YOU EACH TIME. UHHUH, , UH, CAR REPAIRS. I, I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. UH, ELECTRIC POWER AND GAS, WE HAVE THAT WITH THE UTILITY AND THE PUBLIC POWER POOL. SO, UH, THEY'VE ALL BEEN DONE. IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO REAFFIRM EACH ONE OF THEM AS WE'RE DOING THIS ONE, I'D BE HAPPY TO, COULD, COULD YOU JUST CHECK AND GET BACK TO US AND MAKE SURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE ITEMS WE HAVE CHOSEN, OR IF WE NEED TO EXPAND IT, WE CAN EXPAND TO THEM ALL IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS RIGHT NOW. BUT IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT ON A BROADER BASIS TO MAKE IT, MAKE SURE ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT, HOW WE PRACTICE IT. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. MY QUESTION, THIS IS, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOOD. DO WE NOT HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A CERTAIN FOOD PURVEYOR LIKE CISCO OR US FOODS OR SOMEBODY THAT WE CAN JUST, SO WE'RE JUST OUT WITHOUT A CONTRACT TRYING TO PURCHASE THESE ITEMS, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST WAY TO GO. WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S THREE MAJOR VENDORS, , UH, THAT, THAT THE, I BELIEVE THE JAIL CHOOSES FROM. AND, AND THEY REALLY DO GIVE DIFFERENT PRICES. SO I, I THINK THAT THEY'RE, ARE, THEY'RE AS COMPETITIVE AS THEY CAN BE WITH THIS. WELL, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE DIFFERENT PRICES, BUT THEY'RE ALSO NOT GONNA GIVE YOU A CONTRACT PRICE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT COMMITTED. SO COULD, COULD WE, AND I KNOW YOU MAY WANNA SHOP LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S KIND OF INEFFICIENT TO DO THAT. I MEAN, COULD WE NOT SHOP ONE TIME AND PICK A VENDOR? UH, IT'S NOT BEEN MY DECISION TO SHOP LIKE THIS, SIR. YEAH, IT'S, IT'S THE, BUT THEY DO, I'LL DEFER TO THE SHERIFF. I MEAN, IT'S HIS OFFICE, HIS KITCHEN MANAGER'S PREFERENCE. WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS [00:45:01] IN, IN GOING AWAY FROM THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAD WITH THE COMPANY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COST AND THEN THE FOOD QUALITY. SURE. UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN WITH OUR KITCHEN STAFF AND OUR KITCHEN MANAGER IS TO GET THE BEST, UH, THE BEST PRICE IN SHOPPING WITH THOSE THREE OR FOUR, UH, VENDORS THAT WE HAVE WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE A CONTRACT. YEAH. AND IT REALLY, SO THE WAY THEY, THEY SHOP AROUND FOR THE ITEMS THEY NEED, WE'RE GETTING PROBABLY THE BEST WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE A CONTRACT MAYBE. UH, AND MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN THE TRACK RECORD. SO THEY'RE ALL SELLING THE SAME FOOD. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY GO AND INVENT NEW FOOD FROM DIFFERENT VENDORS. I'M JUST TELLING THEY ALL BUY THE SAME FOOD FROM THE SAME WHOLESALER. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THIS SHOPPING PROCEDURE THAT LOOKS LIKE A FORM FROM THE 1980S TO ORDER FOOD. AND I'M JUST THINKING THERE'S A MORE EFFICIENT WAY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THIS WAY, I'M FINE. IT'S YOUR OPERATION. BUT I, I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE OF THESE KIND OF THINGS IN FOREVER. THIS IS WHAT I DO OUTSIDE OF THIS FOR A LIVING, YOU KNOW, IN CONSULTING. AND I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND DOING THAT. 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T SAVE YOU MONEY IN THE LONG RUN TO SHOP. WHAT SAVES YOU MONEY IS TO HAVE A CONTRACT AND HOLD YOUR PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE THAT YOU ORDER FROM, FROM ONE VENDOR AND YOU SHOP THEM FIRST. THEN YOU MAKE AN AGREEMENT ON THE ITEMS YOU ORDER MOST FOR THE BEST PRICING. THAT'S WHAT KEEPS IT EFFICIENT. AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOP EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU'RE GOING TO PLACE AN ORDER, BUT IF YOU WANNA DO IT THIS WAY, YOU CAN. I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN THIS IN FOREVER. I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT METHOD. BUT I MEAN, IF, IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD FIND A CONTRACT, UH, ON IT TO DO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE ITEMS THAT WE GET. YEAH. UM, I WOULD UM, MAYBE SUGGEST IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH THE KITCHEN MANAGER IN TERMS SURE. I WOULD OF WHAT THEIR PROCESS IS. YEAH. AND, AND MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT SOME THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD, IT WOULD FREE UP SOME TIME. YEAH. BUT WITH, WHEN WE DID HAVE A CONTRACT, IT ACTUALLY CAUSED A FEW MORE ISSUES. THEY WEREN'T VERY GOOD DOWN, DOWN THE LINE. THAT CAUSED US TO HAVE TO DO DOUBLE WORK. ARE THERE CERTAIN CONTRACTS, I GUESS I CAN ASK YOUR KITCHEN MANAGER THAT, BUT ARE THERE CERTAIN COMPANIES THAT WE HAVE TO PICK FROM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING INTO A, INTO A JAIL FACILITY? OR CAN YOU PICK FROM ANY COMMERCIAL FOOD VENDOR? AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE CAN PICK FROM ANY, ANY COMMERCIALS. WELL, I, YOU KNOW, AND TO NOT BE ARGUMENTATIVE, WE ARE DEALING WITH TAXPAYER FUNDS. SO WE HAVE TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. SO TO, TO GIVE A FORMAT THAT IF SOMEBODY DOES QUESTION, THERE'LL BE A CONTRACT WITH PRICING ON IT, AND THERE'LL BE THE CONTRACTS FROM THE THREE THAT WE CHOOSE IN THE BEGINNING, THAT'LL ALL HAVE PRICING. AND WE'LL PICK THE ONE THAT HAS THE BEST PRICING AND SERVICE LIKE WE DO WITH ANY OTHER CONTRACT. RIGHT. WELL, I DISAGREE. YOU'RE TYING THE SHERIFF'S HANDS IF, IF YOU DO IT THAT WAY. BUT IF HE WANTS TO LOOK INTO A CONTRACT, I MEAN, SO WE COULD SAY THAT ABOUT ANY CONTRACT WE EVER SIGN IN THE COUNTY, WE'RE TYING OUR HANDS. IF WE SIGN A CONTRACT WITH A CERTAIN ENGINEER, WE'RE TYING OUR HANDS. IF WE SIGN A CONTRACT FOR CERTAIN ROAD MATERIALS, I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME EITHER. WHY, WHY DON'T WE SET A MEETING WITH, OKAY. AND, AND IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT, AND MAYBE EVEN SOMEBODY ELSE, AND WE COULD, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, YOU KNOW, WE NEED THIS NOW FOR THIS PURPOSE, BUT THEN AT ANY TIME WE NO, THIS IS FINE FOR NOW, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR EFFICIENCY DOWN THE ROAD AND DOING THINGS THAT ARE LIKE, IF HAND FILLING OUT THIS FORM, IT'S A, IT'S A WASTE OF TIME IF WE, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. THE SAVINGS THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET BY SHOPPING ARE GONNA EVAPORATE BY ONE BAD ORDER. SERIOUSLY. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME. SO WE HAVE TO, WE NEED TO BE WITH ONE VENDOR THAT WE CAN HOLD ACCOUNTABLE, IN MY OPINION. BUT I'LL WORK THROUGH THAT WITH YOUR MANAGER. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING AWAY FROM THIS, THE CONTRACT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. YOU COULDN'T HOLD 'EM ACCOUNTABLE. YEAH. BUT THERE'S OUT CLAUSES IN THOSE THINGS WHEN THEY DON'T PERFORM. RIGHT. IF YOU DO IT RIGHT AND YOU CAN LEAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN AN EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS TO SIGN A PRICING AGREEMENT WITH THESE PEOPLE SO YOU KNOW WHAT TO DEPEND ON. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO, SO DO I PUT THAT COMMISSIONER ALANA IS GONNA HAVE THAT MEETING IN THE MOTION? YES. OR DO YOU WANT ME JUST TO MAKE A MOTION? I'M KIDDING. . I, I, I, IT'S MY LONG-WINDED COMPLAINTS. IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT COMMISSIONER GOANA IS GONNA SET THAT MEETING. . UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REAFFIRM THE RESOLUTION EXEMPTING FOOD ITEMS FROM FORMAL BID PROCEDURES PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 2 6 2 0.024. SECOND. GOT MY MOTION, GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GALANA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS [9. Discuss/Act on approving a Resolution for the submission of a grant application for Rifle Resistant Body Armor, and all related issues; {Sheriff Garrett - Auditor)] BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NINE, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A RESOLUTION FOR SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION FOR RIFLE RESISTANT BODY ARMOR AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. SHERIFF GARRETT, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, UH, THIS IS FOR, UM, APPROVING THE APPLICATION AND RESOLUTION FOR APPLYING FOR A GRANT FOR $85,800, UH, THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, UH, TO OBTAIN, UH, RIFLE [00:50:01] RATED PLATES FOR A BODY ARMOR AND, UH, THAT ARE NIJ OR NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE, UH, STANDARDS APPROVED. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF? YEAH, ACTUALLY I DO. UM, REAL SIMPLE QUESTION IN THE RESOLUTION ITSELF, I DON'T KNOW WHO PREPARED IT, BUT, UM, IT, IT TALKS ABOUT IT, IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE RESOLUTIONS WE HAVE, UH, IN ITEM 17, UM, AND ITEM 18. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S MENTIONED IN THE GRANT APPLICATION IS THAT THE RESOLUTION IS SUPPOSED TO DESIGNATE THE NAME AND TITLE OF A FINANCIAL OFFICER WHO'S GIVEN AUTHORITY TO SUBMIT FINANCIAL OR PERFORMANCE REPORTS OR ALTER THE GRANT. AND THAT LANGUAGE IS NOT IN THIS RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S IN THE OTHERS. AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS THAT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT OR IS THERE A REASON WE DON'T NEED IT HERE? I BELIEVE IT IS AN OVERSIGHT BECAUSE I RECEIVED AN EMAIL LETTING ME KNOW THAT MY NAME OR MY TITLE WOULD BE LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION. SO I, I THINK THAT, UH, THAT IT PROBABLY IS JUST A SENTENCE MISSING FROM IT. SO LIKE IF THIS YEAR, SO YEAH. OVERSIGHT, BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S, YEAH. WELL, AND I APPRECIATE WHOEVER PREPARED THESE. IF IT WAS YOUR OFFICE, KEN, OR WHOEVER DID IT THAT EXCUSE ME, THEY'RE CORRECT. THE OTHER ONES ARE CORRECT. SO MAYBE WHEN WE APPROVE THIS ONE, WE JUST NEED TO INSERT THAT SIMILAR LANGUAGE, UH, ABOUT AUTHORIZING, UH, THE AUDITOR, UH, AS A FINANCIAL OFFICER. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. OKAY. BUT I, I KNOW THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DID CONTACT ME, SO I, I THINK IT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT THAT WHICH COPY WAS ATTACHED. WELL, IF IT'S A NEW REQUIREMENT, THEN I'M SURE IT JUST DIDN'T GET INCLUDED IN IT. SO THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WELL, I'LL MAKE A, I'M SORRY. YEP. PL PLEASE, PLEASE. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION INCLUDED WITHIN OUR PACKET, UH, FOR THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION FOR RIFLE RESISTANT BODY ARMOR, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH AS THE FOURTH RECITAL IN THAT RESOLUTION. WHEREAS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ROCKWALL COUNTY DESIGNATES THE ROCKWALL COUNTY AUDITOR AS THE GRANTEES FINANCIAL OFFICER. THE FINANCIAL OFFICER IS GIVEN THE POWER TO SUBMIT FINANCIAL AND OR PROGRAMMATIC REPORTS, OR ALTER A GRANT ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AGENCY. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICK DIA, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU, SHERIFF. THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US [10. Discuss/Act on approving a five-year copier lease with CPI for the Justice of the Peace, Pct 3@ an annual cost of $1,764.00 with color copies at .049 per page, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy) ] TO AGENDA ITEM 10, DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING A FIVE YEAR COPIER LEASE WITH CPI FOR THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT THREE AT AN ANNUAL COST OF $1,764 WITH COLOR COPIES AT 49 CENTS A PAGE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY? YES. SO, UH, FIRST THING IS THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE JP TECH FUND. THIS ISN'T COMING OUTTA GENERAL GOVERNMENT, SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING. SO, SO THIS IS GETTING PAID FOR IN A, IN A DIFFERENT BUCKET, UM, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE. UM, I DO LIKE THE DIRECTION THAT, UH, JUDGE RUSSO WENT ON THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS GETTING TO WHAT, I MEAN, KIND OF WHAT BOBBY WAS HITTING AT ON THE FOOD IS THIS IS GETTING TO CONTROLLING THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE COST AND TONER AND MAKING SOMETHING CHEAPER FOR THE COUNTY. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS, THIS IS THE WAY TO GO, UM, IF WE CAN GET MORE PEOPLE USING PROFESSIONAL COPIERS INSTEAD OF OTHER COPIERS. SO I WANNA APPLAUD JUDGE RUSSO FOR GOING IN THIS DIRECTION. UM, AND I THINK IT'S A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD LEASE AND IT'S NOT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, SO THIS'S JUST A, THIS IS JUST OUR DUTY TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION AFTER THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FIVE YEAR LEASE FOR CPI FOR JUSTICE, THE PEACE PRECINCT THREE, UM, AS PRESENTED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. IS THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HEARING NONE IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT BRINGS US TO [11. Discuss/ Act on fees and security deposit for the Annex Multi-Purpose Room, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)] AGENDA ITEM 11, DISCUSS AND ACT ON FEES AND SECURITY DEPOSIT FOR THE ANNEX MULTIPURPOSE ROOM AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER GOANA. OKAY, SO I KNOW THAT THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS AT SOME POINT. I KNOW COMMISSIONER STACY AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT WANTING TO ADDRESS THIS, AND THEN WE HAD OTHER THINGS HAPPEN AND WE DID NOT. SO THE FEES, AND IT KIND OF GOT BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE ON SOME AGENDA ITEMS DOWN THAT THE REPUBLICAN WOMEN WANTED TO USE THE FACILITY DUE TO A WEATHER ISSUE. IT WAS THE ONLY PLACE WE COULD GET INTO. [00:55:01] UM, LUCKILY WE WORKED SOMETHING OUT WITH THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT WHO WAS USING IT FOR THEM TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. UM, BUT IT WAS GONNA BE FOR, YOU KNOW, FIVE HOURS OF TIME, I DON'T KNOW, 18 SIX HOURS OF TIME. THE $1,800 PLUS $600 DEP. IT WAS CRAZY GUYS. IT WAS LIKE I COULD HAVE GONE TO HIDDEN CREEK AND RENTED THE BUILDING, UH, FOR LESS MONEY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE IF WE'RE TRYING TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM RENTING THE ANNEX. AND IF THAT'S THE GOAL, THEN WE CAN WRITE A POLICY THAT SAYS THAT ONLY COUNTY PEOPLE CAN USE THE ANNEX AND A COUPLE OF CLUBS THAT WE CAN NAME, OR WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING USED ON THE WEEKENDS. BUT WHERE IT'S AT RIGHT NOW IS EGREGIOUS . IT'S KIND OF RIDICULOUS THAT WE WOULD BUILD AN ANNEX FOR PUBLIC USE AND THEN CHARGE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR IT. UH, SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T EVER USE IT. SO I WANT TO COME TO, I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER TO GIVE YOU, I JUST WANNA HAVE A DISCUSSION. WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE IT TODAY, UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE COULD DO, WHAT THE GOAL IS WITH THIS ANNEX MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, IF IT IS TO BE USED BY THE PUBLIC OR NOT. WE DO HAVE THE LIBRARY. WE DO HAVE LIBERTY HALL. UM, AND I ALSO, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IS THE SECURITY PART, I BELIEVE. UM, WHAT ARE WE CHARGING NOW? AND, AND FORGIVE ME FOR SECURITY. WELL, NO, FOR, FOR THE FEE FOR THE ANNEX $300 AN HOUR, 300 IF YOU LOOP IN SECURITY, WHICH IS ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED SECURITY IN THERE FOR EVERY EVENT. IT'S NOT A COURTHOUSE. SO DID WE JUST, AND, AND FORGIVE ME, UH, LIKE YOU, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE'RE GONNA GET BACK TO IT AND NEVER DID. WERE WE JUST THINKING TO KEEP IT THE SAME AS LIBERTY HALL OR WHAT, WHAT WAS OUR THINKING? I REALLY DON'T KNOW. DON'T REMEMBER IF I COULD, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK COMMISSIONER STACY MAY KNOW MORE THAN ME ON WHAT, WHAT THE ORIGINAL, UH, FEES WERE THOUGHT OUT TO BE, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WEREN'T MEANT TO STAY THERE. IT WAS JUST KIND OF A PLACEHOLDER THAT HE PUT IN UNTIL WE COULD DISCUSS, SO GOT IT. GOT IT. WELL, I REMEMBER WE, WE DID DISCUSS IT. MAYBE NOT TO AD NAUSEUM, BUT WE DID DISCUSS IT. I, I DON'T, I DIDN'T BRING MY, MY RESEARCH I DID. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I PROVIDED YOU GUYS WHEN WE FIRST INITIALLY TALKED ABOUT IT WAS OTHER COUNTIES, UM, THAT HAVE VARIOUS TYPES OF RENTABLE AREAS. AND ONE OF THEM SPECIFICALLY WAS COLLIN COUNTY. I DO REMEMBER LOOKING AT COLLIN COUNTIES AND THEY HAD AN EVENT CENTER OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED IN A, IN THAT TYPE OF A, A FORMAT. AND SO WHAT I, WHAT I PROPOSED AND PREPARED, UM, AND I GAVE YOU GUYS COPIES OF WERE THE RESEARCH I HAD DONE, AND IT WASN'T JUST COLLIN COUNTY, I THINK HAD, I EVEN WENT DOWN TO WILLIAMSON COUNTY. I MEAN, I LOOKED AT SEVERAL COUNTIES THAT HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE ANNEX, AND IT WAS, IT WAS SPECIFICALLY AROUND THAT. BUT IT ALSO GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY, AS YOU SAID, FOR US TO KIND OF GO BACK AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, USES THAT WE HAVE. SO I'M NOT IMPOSED, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO US HAVING SOMETHING THAT IS AFFORDABLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, THE, THE OTHER GROUPS THAT I LOOKED AT THAT WERE COUNTIES, THEY, UM, THEY ARE USING IT AS A REVENUE GENERATOR. OKAY. AND IT DOESN'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE ASHAMED OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, IN MY OPINION, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO GOUGE ANYONE. I I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK, UM, MY EXPERIENCE WITH HIDDEN CREEK IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN, THAN THAT AMOUNT . SO ON A SATURDAY. OKAY. THAT'S THEIR PRIME TIME. BUT DEFINITELY, UM, I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION, BUT I, I CAN PULL MY, MY, MY DATA THAT I SHARED WITH YOU WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE, THE ANNEX RATES WERE SET ON THAT DATA, SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE GOT, THAT'S WHERE WE LANDED. AND TO COMMISSIONER ALANA'S POINT, IT WAS 100% SET TO BE TEMPORARY BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'RE, I GUESS KIND OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS NOW THAT WE HAVE AN ANNEX ROOM, NOW IT COMES TO WHAT IS THE POLICY DIRECTION? WHAT IS THIS POLICY DIRECTION WITH THE LIBRARY? WHAT IS THE POLICY DIRECTION FOR THE ANNEX ROOM, AND WHAT IS THE POLICY DIRECTION FOR LIBERTY HALL? I'M ONE THAT'S TRYING TO GET AS MANY EVENTS OUT OF LIBERTY HALL AS POSSIBLE. UM, I THINK THE SECURITY PROTOCOLS ARE, UH, YEAH, THEY'RE, AND THEY SHOULD BE HARDER BECAUSE WE, WE SHOULD HAVE A MORE FAIR BALANCE AT LIBERTY HALL BECAUSE IT IS A COURTHOUSE. MM-HMM . THERE IS A LOT MORE REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS SECURE. UM, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THAT SECURITY WHEN THEY USE THAT FACILITY. UM, AND WE, I THINK THAT WHAT COMMISSIONER ALANI IS TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY IS, IS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY REAL CLEAR POLICY DIRECTION ON WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO WITH THESE BUILDINGS? AND, AND, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE WE ENDED THE CONVERSATION, I GUESS LATE IN THE YEAR WHEN WE MET WITH THE SHERIFF. AND, AND IT IS, IS WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO? BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, ARE WE TRYING TO HAVE AN EVENT WHERE WE HAVE IT PRESENT TO MAKE SURE IT RUNS SMOOTHLY? OR ARE WE JUST HAVING AN EVENT WHERE WE UNLOCK THE DOORS AND CLOSE THE DOORS? UM, AND, AND THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF THAT THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS A COURT. UM, AND THEN IF WE DO HAVE [01:00:02] AN EVENT WITH THE SHERIFF BEING IN CHARGE OF SECURITY, SHOULD THERE BE A PROTOCOL THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE HAVING THIS EVENT. THIS GETS SENT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THEY DETERMINE WHAT THE SECURITY NEEDS ARE AND WHAT THAT COST IS. AND IT GOES BACK TO THE INDIVIDUAL AND SAY, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE EVENT IN THIS BUILDING, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE SEVEN DEPUTIES. THIS IS THE COST AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING IT. AND ALLOWING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO WEIGH IN ON SECURITY PROTOCOLS TO STOP US FROM JUST DOING AN EVENT HERE. AND THEN HAVING, YOU KNOW, 12 PEOPLE SHOW UP, YOU KNOW, ON OVERTIME. SO, SO THAT WAS PART OF THE PROCESS AS WELL, UM, THAT THE COMMISSIONER GOANA AND I, AND THE SHERIFF'S TEAM WERE LOOKING AT. AND THEN IT JUST KIND OF COMES THE FIRST QUESTION, WHICH IS THE LEGITIMATE QUESTION IS, WHAT DOES THE COURT WANNA SEE FROM THESE THREE ROOMS? WE HAVE THREE ROOMS ON THE SAME CAMPUS. DO WE WANT TO BE FACILITATING LIBRARY USAGE WHEN THE LIBRARY IS OPEN? UM, OR DO WE WANNA LEAVE THAT TO MARCINE AND HER FOLKS TO DO LIBRARY PROGRAMMING AS IT IS NOW, WHERE THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH IN CONTROL OF THEIR OWN CALENDAR? DO WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WITH THE ANNEX IS MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS AVAILABLE DURING THE DAY FOR THE COUNTY. 'CAUSE IT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CONFERENCE ROOMS FOR COUNTY USE, AND WE DON'T WANNA JUST START RENTING IT OUT ALL THE TIME, BUT ON A SATURDAY, THE COUNTY AIN'T HERE. UH, YOU KNOW, SO I, I THINK THAT THAT DIRECTION, I HAVE IDEAS, I HAVE THOUGHTS, BUT I'M JUST ONE PERSON. AND, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COURT HAS, HAS SPOKEN ON, ON WHAT THOSE IDEAS WOULD BE AS KIND OF A, AS KIND OF A POINT OF THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THESE BUILDINGS. AND I THINK COMMISSIONER GOANA HIT RIGHT, HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WITH, WITH, IF WE'RE GOING TO, IF WE'RE GONNA ADJUST THIS, WHICH WE NEED TO, WHAT DOES THE COURT WANNA SEE? DOES THE COURT WANNA SEE US FACILITATING ANNEX USAGE? DOES THE COURT WANT US TO BE CHARGING RATES WHERE, WHERE, WHERE IT'S, HEY, IT'S A CENTER AND IT'S GONNA COST MONEY. UM, BUT, BUT ANYWAYS, THE, SO WE HAVE SEVERAL LAYERS OF CONCERNS. AND THEN HOW, HOW DO WE WANNA PROCEED? SO, SO I, I THINK THE FIRST STEP, IF I'M HEARING IT CORRECTLY, IS WE HAVE TO DETERMINE IF WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE OR DISCOURAGE USE OF THE ROOM AT THE ANNEX. CORRECT. AND WE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, AGAIN, THREE ROOMS NOW, AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE IN THE BI IN THE BUSINESS, IN THE COUNTY OF BEING EVENT COORDINATORS AND TRYING TO BOOK THESE THINGS FOR PROFIT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I THINK WE CAN OPEN THESE THINGS UP FOR REASONABLE COST TO SOME OF OUR 5 0 1 C THREES AND OUR TWO POLITICAL PARTIES TO USE AT A REASONABLE RATE. AND THOSE REALLY SHOULD BE THE PEOPLE WE'RE FOCUSED ON. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE HAVING BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND WEDDING RECEPTIONS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THESE ARE FOR OR ARE DESIGNED FOR, OR SHOULD BE USED FOR. IN MY OPINION, THE ANNEX NUMBER ONE IS FOR THE COUNTY, UM, TO USE DURING THE DAY. IF WE CAN GET IT TO ONE OF OUR, UM, 5 0 1 C THREES OR OUR PARTY TO USE ON THE WEEKEND BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT, GREAT. THAT'S WAY BETTER THAN LIBERTY HALL TO USE. UM, IN MY OPINION, THE LIBRARY SHOULD BE THE FIRST PLACE WE POINT THE PUBLIC TO BECAUSE THEY HAVE STAFF THERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING IN ON THE WEEKEND. IT'S JUST, JUST MY OPINION ON EASE OF USE. LIBERTY HALL CAN BE USED FOR BIG EVENTS, LIKE THE PARTIES USE THEM FOR NOW, ESPECIALLY OUR REPUBLICAN PARTY USES IT FOR SOME EVENTS, AND IT'S KIND OF THE ONLY SPACE THAT FITS FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THEY DO. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN PAY FOR SECURITY. THEY USUALLY RAISE THE MONEY FOR THAT. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON HOW WE KIND OF GUIDE THIS PROCESS. BUT I, I'M ONLY ONE. YEAH. SO I I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK YOU AND I ARE TRACKING ON THIS. YEAH. THE BIG MISSING PIECE, AT LEAST IN MY MIND OF THIS PUZZLE, AND COMMISSIONER STACY BROUGHT IT UP, IS SECURITY. MM-HMM . AND, AND I, I, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF YEAH. MAKING THE STEP GO TO THE SHERIFF. YEAH. HE, HE, HE BY LAW IS IN CHARGE OF SECURITY AT THE COURTHOUSE AND, AND, AND THE ANNEX AND, AND THE LIBRARY. SO, I MEAN, BY, BY LAW HE'S IN CHARGE. NOW THE LIBRARY'S A DIFFERENT BEAST. UH, BUT, UH, IF, IF WE COULD WORK THAT INTO THE PROCESS, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA LET THE SHERIFF TELL YOU WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO. YEAH. AG AGREED. BECAUSE THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT TRIES TO, TO BOOK A ROOM THAT IS, UH, MAYBE A CONTROVERSIAL EVENT. MM-HMM . SO THE SECURITY REVIEW IS IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US A TON. I I ALSO THINK IT'S GOT TO GO TO IT AT SOME POINT BECAUSE THE PERSON RENTING THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ROOM OR USING THE ROOM HAS GOTTA DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TO PAY FOR SOMEONE FROM IT TO BE THERE. RIGHT. IF THEY NEED THAT HELP, OR IF THEY CAN JUST DO A QUICK REVIEW SOMETIME DURING THE WORK WEEK BEFORE THEY COME IN TO USE IT, TO USE THE, THE IT EQUIPMENT. SO THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S GOTTA BE SOME SORT OF CHOICE AS WELL. AND IT NEEDS TO BE AWARE SO THEY'RE NOT SURPRISED BY SOMETHING HAPPENING TO THEM WITHOUT ANY NOTICE AS WELL. YEAH. AND, AND I THINK WE AGREE. I I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD USE IT AS A PROFIT CENTER. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A PUBLIC RESOURCE. YEAH. UH, THAT, THAT WE NEED TO, UH, MY STANCE IS ENCOURAGE THE [01:05:01] PUBLIC. AND THE ONLY REASON I USE THE WORD REVENUE GENERATOR A WHILE AGO IS THAT WE DO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT AS IT'S USED OVER THE TIME, WE WILL HAVE, WE WILL INCUR, UM, EXPENSES THAT CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTY WILL HAVE TO PAY WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE REMODEL, YOU KNOW, REDO THINGS, UPDATE THINGS. BECAUSE WHEN IT'S USED A WHOLE LOT, AND I'M, I'M EXPER I'VE EXPERIENCED IT PERSONALLY WITH, UM, THE ROTARY CLUB HAVING JUST STEPPED DOWN AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE FOUNDATION THAT OWNS THE BUILDING. JUST IN THE, IN THE FIVE TO SIX YEARS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DAMAGE THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO IT. AND THERE ARE, THERE IS COST TO IT, BOTH FROM AN IT STANDPOINT FOR PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING, THEY MESSED UP THE IT, AND THEN ALSO OF PEOPLE PUTTING THINGS, UM, ON THE WALLS OR ON THE FLOORS THAT, UM, HAVE DAMAGED IT. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND. 'CAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO, UM, FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT, ADDRESS THOSE. AND I AGREE WITH STILL TAKING A SECURITY DEPOSIT THAT IS REFUNDABLE. RIGHT. UH, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO PROTECT OURSELVES. YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. SO JUST TO DANA'S POINT, I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN ROTARY HALL , SO, UM, IT TO PEOPLE YOU WOULDN'T THINK WOULD DO THESE KIND OF THINGS, IT HAPPENS. SO, UM, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE COMMISSIONER GOANA, AND, AND SEE IF YOU AGREE WITH ME ON THIS. I, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU AND, AND MAYBE COMMISSIONER STACY TO COME BACK WITH A POLICY OKAY. AND AN ACTUAL PRICE AND A PROCEDURE AND, AND INCLUDING IN THAT PROCEDURE, YOU KNOW, A CONTACT AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR SECURITY, A CONTACT AT IT FOR IT USES. AND THEN, THEN LET US SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WILL ENCOURAGE USE FOR, FOR THE ENTITIES THAT, THAT YOU SAID THE 5 0 1 C THREES AND, AND THE PARTIES. OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE A, WHAT DOES THE COURT FEEL LIKE ABOUT THE THREE DIFFERENT VENUES? DO WE WANT TO STEER TOWARDS ONE THE OTHER? DOES IT MATTER? WHAT DO YOU, WHAT ARE YOUR OPINIONS ON HOW WE USE THE, THE THREE DIFFERENT PLACES? YEAH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE COURT. I, I HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE COURT'S THOUGHTS. WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE ARE THREE VERY DIFFERENT VENUES. YEAH. AND SO IF WE COVER OUR COSTS, AND I, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THANK, THANK EVERY, WHAT EVERYBODY'S BEEN SAYING, I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS HERE. WE HAVE TO COVER OUR COSTS, BUT WE HAVE TO BE HONEST ABOUT WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE. IF YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY SHOW UP TO OPEN AND CLOSE IT ON A WEEKEND, THAT MEANS YOU GOTTA CHARGE THEIR FEE. IF YOU GOTTA HAVE SECURITY, THEY GOTTA PAY FOR IT. IF YOU GOTTA HAVE AN IT, YOU GOTTA PAY FOR THAT. EVEN IF IT'S JUST REVIEWING A PLAN, I GOTTA COVER THOSE COSTS AND THERE'S GOTTA BE A DAMAGE DEPOSIT. SO I AGREE THAT, BUT WE GOT THREE VERY DIFFERENT FACILITIES. AND I THINK IF WE PRICE THEM APPROPRIATELY AND TO COVER OUR COSTS, UM, WE WILL FIND THAT THE FREE MARKET WILL KIND OF LET PEOPLE CHOOSE TO WHERE WE GO, WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. UM, I, A COUPLE THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID THAT I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT, AND I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH ALL TIES INTO THIS. UM, WHAT, I DON'T THINK ANY, WHEN WE USE THE WORD ENCOURAGE, I DON'T KNOW THE WORD ENCOURAGING OR DISCOURAGING. I THINK WE'RE MAKING A POLICY TO SAY WE CAN ONLY USE IT BY, UM, 5 0 1 C THREES. THAT MAKES, KIND OF MAKES SENSE. BUT I DON'T THINK WE REALLY CAN DO THAT. IF, IF WE'RE GONNA OPEN THESE UP TO THE PUBLIC. WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE A 5 0 1 C3? I DON'T KNOW. UM, AND THEN WHENEVER YOU LOOK AT THIS, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE FOR WAIVING FEES. BECAUSE EARLIER LAST YEAR, WE HAD A LIST AND EVERYBODY CAME, HERE'S ALL THE ROOMS WE'RE GONNA RENT, INCLUDING THIS ROOM HERE. AND YET I DON'T SEE A LOT OF REVENUE BEING GENERATED. MAYBE DON'T LOOK AT IT. WE HAVE REQUESTS FOR WAIVING FEES. IF I, I'M A HUGE FAN, AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, BOBBY OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY REPUBLICAN WOMEN'S CLUB. MM-HMM . UM, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA WA WAIVE IT FOR THEM, THEN WHY WOULDN'T WE WAIVE IT FOR ANYBODY ELSE WE LIKE? AND THEN IF WE'RE DOING THINGS FOR PEOPLE, LIKE, OR THAT JUST LEADS TO CORRUPTION AND NOBODY WANTS THAT, AND I KNOW, BUT NOBODY'S ASKING FOR THAT. I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T USE THAT TERM. BUT MY POINT IS, IF WE'RE GONNA SET UP THESE FEES AND WE'RE GONNA SAY WE'RE GONNA CHARGE PEOPLE, THEN UNLESS WE HAVE SOME STANDARDS FOR WAIVING THEM, WHEN SOMEBODY WALKS IN TO USE A ROOM, WHERE'S THE FEE? RIGHT. AND I, I DON'T DISAGREE, BUT WE HAVE A HISTORY OF WAIVING THE FEE AT LIBERTY HALL FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. SO I'M JUST GOING ALONG THOSE SAME LINES. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS AN EVENT THAT REQUIRES SECURITY. AND I'LL BE THERE TO TURN, UH, THE, UH, LIGHTS OFF AND ON AND LOCK THE DOORS. SO WE'RE NOT GONNA INCUR ANY COSTS. SO THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE I BELIEVE WE STILL CAN WAIVE THE FEES, BUT I WANT TO SPELL IT OUT IN OUR POLICY ON HOW THAT WORKS. UH, MY POINT IS, WE CAN WAIVE THE FEES. I AGREE WITH YOU. BUT UNLESS WE'RE DOING IT EITHER, UH, ON AN EQUITABLE BASIS, THEN I THINK WE'RE [01:10:01] NOT BEING FAIR TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S NOT A, OKAY. THE WAY THAT I WOULD LOOK AT IT WOULD BE, AND I'M GONNA TRY TO SAY THIS NICELY 'CAUSE YOU SAID EQUITABLE, WHICH DRIVES ME BANANAS. WE DON'T HAVE TO BE EQUITABLE FOR ONE THING. THIS IS A POLICY THAT WE CAN WRITE ANY WAY THAT WE WANT. WE DON'T NEED TO WRITE IT SO THAT EVERY LIBERAL IN AMERICA CAN COME RENT THIS BUILDING THE SAME WAY AND SAY THEY GOT TREATED EQUABLY. I, WE CAN WRITE WHATEVER WE WANT IN THE POLICY. WE CAN SAY IT'S, THE FEES ARE WAIVED FOR A 5 0 1 C3. AND IF YOU'RE NOT ONE THAT'S TOO BAD, IT, THE FEES ARE WAIVED FOR OUR TWO PARTIES TO USE THE BUILDING ONCE A QUARTER. WHATEVER WE WANT TO PUT IN HERE IS FINE. AND IF IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER POLICY, WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED IS EXACTLY WHAT I ASKED FOR IS STANDARDS FOR WAIV OUR FEES. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. BUT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THOSE, WE DON'T, WE HAVE TO PUT IT IN A POLICY. SO WE DEAL WITH IT ON AN AD HOC BASIS. I ACTUALLY LOVE THE TERM EQUITABLE . NO, YOU DO. I HATE IT. EQUITY IS WHAT, BECAUSE IT, EQUITY OF EQUITY, EQUITABLE OUTCOMES DRIVING BANANAS CALLED, WELL, EQUITY IS WHAT I'M CALLED TO PROVIDE BY MY GOD. UM, AND SO I TRY TO DO IT EVERYWHERE I CAN. ALL I'M SAYING IS WE GOTTA HAVE STANDARDS IF WE'RE GONNA WAIVE FEES. AND THAT'S WHAT I ASKED YOU. I SAID, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THIS, WOULD YOU COME UP WITH SOME STANDARDS? BECAUSE I DO THINK, AND I DON'T KNOW, UH, OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEYS HERE, THEY MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, BUT I THINK IF WE WAIVE FOR ONE GROUP AND NOT ANOTHER, WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR A CLAIM. NOT IF IT'S IN A POLICY. IF IT'S IN A POLICY THAT'S, ISN'T THAT WHAT I JUST ASKED FOR? AGAIN, GIMME A POLICY'S WHAT I KEEP TELLING YOU. WE'RE GONNA PUT POLICY. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA PUT IT IN A POLICY. WE DO. THANK YOU. BUT I'M NOT GONNA USE THE WORD EQUITABLE. I'M GLAD WE AGREE. AND I AMM SMILING RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. . W WITH THAT LET'S, UH, EQUITABLE IN MY, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE ASKING ME IF I LIKE THE WORD? NO, NO. RUN, RUN AWAY. RUN AWAY. UM, OKAY. SO THIS GETS US BACK TO WHERE I WANTED US TO GO, WHICH IS COMMISSIONER GOANA AND COMMISSIONER STACY TO GET TOGETHER ON A POLICY AND, AND, AND COME BACK TO THE COURT WITH FEES, UM, DEPOSIT FEES AND, AND A POLICY ON, ON, UM, RENTING THOSE ROOMS. UM, SO I DON'T BELIEVE THIS REQUIRES ANY, ANY ACTION. I THINK THAT'LL GIVE US, GIVE, GIVE US ENOUGH DIRECTION THAT'LL COME BACK AT THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO [12. Discuss/Act on security protocol for the Annex Multi-Purpose Room, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana) ] AGENDA ITEM 12, DISCUSS AND ACT ON SECURITY PROTOCOL FOR THE ANNEX MULTIPURPOSE ROOM. AND ALL RELATED ISSUES KIND OF DOVETAILS NICELY. UH, I BELIEVE IT'S A SIMILAR SITUATION HERE. YOU'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THIS IN WHATEVER POLICY YOU GUYS BRING BACK, RIGHT? YEAH. RIGHT. WE JUST NEED TO DECIDE WHAT REQUIRES SECURITY. AND THAT'LL BE UP TO, UM, SHERIFF GARRETT AND HIS TEAM. I, I, I, I AGREE. NO, NO ONE SHOULD BE DECIDING SECURITY OTHER THAN THE SHERIFF. UM, SO THAT WE WILL LOOK FOR THAT COMING FORTH IN THE FUTURE. UH, AND THEN LET'S GO [13. Discuss/Act on waiving fees for the Rockwall County Republican Women's Club Membership Luncheon 1/31, and all relate issues; (Commissioner GaIlana) ] TO AGENDA ITEM 13. DISCUSS AN ACT ON WAIVING FEES FOR THE ROCKWALL COUNTY REPUBLICAN WOMEN'S CLUB MEMBERSHIP LUNCHEON JANUARY 31ST IN ALL RELATED ISSUES, COMMISSIONER ALANA. OKAY, SO THIS IS LAUREN'S FAVORITE ITEM OF THE DAY. I I AM, I'M ASKING TO WAIVE THESE FEES ONLY. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA WAIVE THESE INTO FUTURE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M ONLY ASKING TO WAIVE THEM NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE REALLY DOING TO CHARGE FOR THIS ROOM. AND WHAT IS ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW IS HIGH, VERY HIGH. AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S GONNA BE A SECURITY REQUIREMENT FOR THIS ONE. WE'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO SHERIFF GARRETT TO LOOK AT IT, BUT IT'S A REPUBLICAN WOMEN'S LUNCH AND I'LL BE THERE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SECURITY, A SECURITY ISSUE. I'LL BE ABLE TO LOCK AND UNLOCK THE VENUE. THEY DON'T REQUIRE ANY IT PEOPLE TO BE ON SITE. AND THAT'S IT. OH, WHAT ARE THE FEES WE'RE BEING ASKED TO WAIVE? WE'RE BEING, YOU SAID THEY'RE VERY HIGH, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, IT'S $300 AN HOUR FOR SIX HOURS. SO IT'S 18. THAT IS VERY HIGH. THAT IS VERY HIGH. UM, THEY'RE HAVING LUNCH. IT'S GONNA TAKE SIX HOURS. WELL, THEY'RE SET UP SO WE, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT ENOUGH TIME TO, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT THEY DO BEFOREHAND THAT MAKE THE ROOM LOOK BEAUTIFUL. GOTTA MAKE THE ROOM LOOK BEAUTIFUL. SO I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. I I'M A MEMBER OF THAT, THAT GROUP, AND I'M ACTUALLY SPEAKING THAT DAY. SO, UM, SURE. I I WANTED TO ASK, WOULD THE, WOULD THE GROUP BE, INSTEAD OF WAIVING IT, WOULD THEY BE, UH, WOULD THEY BE OPEN TO, IF WE HAD SOME TYPE OF A CHARGE? WHAT TYPE OF CHARGE? WELL, SIX HOURS, A HUNDRED DOLLARS AN HOUR. WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR? HMM? WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR WITH THE $600? WHAT WOULD WE IT WOULD GO INTO THE, THE FUND WE, I GUESS, ASSIGNED WHEN WE FIRST PUT THIS TOGETHER. WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR THOUGH? USE OF THE ROOM. WHAT, WHAT HE'S [01:15:01] ASKING IS WHAT DOES THE 600 GET YOU? IT'S THE USE OF THE BUILDING, A USE OF THE ROOM AND, AND THE AMENITIES IN THE RATE. SO THEN WE'RE GONNA SET A PRECEDENT THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THAT FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY GOING FORWARD EVERY TIME THEY RENT SOMEWHERE TOO. I, I HAVE AN OPINION, NOT JUST ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. I HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT. SO, BUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THIS SPECI SPECIFIC ONE. SO YEAH. SO THIS, THIS ONE IS SPECIFIC TO A DATE AND, AND A PARTY AND TO, UH, ATTEMPT TO GET US WHERE I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA GO. I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WAIVE THE FEES FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY REPUBLICAN WOMEN'S CLUB MEMBERSHIP LUNCHEON ON JANUARY 31ST. SECOND. SO WE HAVE MY MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS IF YOU'LL REGISTER, IF I CAN PUSH THE BUTTON, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW IT PASSES THREE TO ONE WITH ONE ABSTENTION. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE POLICIES COMING FORWARD. UM, THIS BRINGS US [14. Discuss/Act on approving a service order to add an Internet connection to 1171 League Rd, Rockwall TX 75032 at a cost of $250 per month and $100 one-time fee with a 12-month term to facilitate first responder drones, and all related issues; (IT Director-Sheriff Garrett) ] TO AGENDA ITEM 14. DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A SERVICE. ORDER TO ADD AN INTERNET CONNECTION TO 1171 LEE ROAD, ROCKWALL, TEXAS AT A COST OF $250 PER MONTH AND A ONE TIME $100 FEE WITH A 12 MONTH TERM TO FACILITATE FIRST RESPONDER DRONES AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. THIS HAS IT AND SHERIFF MR. BRIAN CRENSHAW. UH, THIS IS TO ADD AN INTERNET CONNECTION DOWN AT A RADIO TOWER BY, UM, MCLENDON CHISHOLM. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS A, UH, A GRANT THAT'S GIVING THEM FIRST RESPONDER DRONES, BUT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE INTERNET CONNECTIONS FOR ALL OF THEM. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD THERE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CRENSHAW? UM, ASSUME THIS IS BUDGETED, RIGHT? UH, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS IS COMING OUTTA THE BUDGET. MOST OF THE INTERNET CONNECTIONS COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND. , WE HAVE A LINE IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT. IT'S FOR TELEPHONE COMMUNICATIONS. WE'LL JUST CHARGE IT THERE. GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. GIVE ME TO THE QUESTION, UH, AND JUST IS, DO WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE SET UP THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY? THESE, UH, DRONE STATIONS OR THIS, THE FIRST ONE. AND WHY IS WE, WE ARE CHOOSING LEAGUE ROAD. DO YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S NOT A FAIR. THE, THE SHERIFF HAS GIVEN HIS INDICATION. THERE'S TWO IN THE COUNTY. OKAY. THERE, THERE'S ONE OTHER ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. UH, THAT'LL BE AT ROAD AND BRIDGE. UH, THAT ONE DIDN'T REQUIRE A CONTRACT 'CAUSE IT'S UNDERNEATH OUR CURRENT AT AND T CONTRACT, BUT, SO THERE'S GONNA BE TWO IN THOSE LOCATIONS. AND THE DRONE PEOPLE DID A BIG PRESENTATION ABOUT WHERE THEY WANT 'EM. I THINK THEY HAVE SOME FUTURE SITES, BUT THEY'RE DOING, THEY WHERE THEY WANT IT, THOSE TWO WITH BASED ON, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR IT GOES AND EVERYTHING. YEAH. OKAY. GREAT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. THAT WE APPROVE THE SERVICE ORDER TO ADD AN INTERNET CONNECTION TO 1171 LEE ROAD IN ROCKWALL, UM, AT A COST OF $250 PER MONTH AND A HUNDRED DOLLARS ONE TIME FEE. AND WITH A 12 MONTH TERM TO FACILITATE FIRST RESPONDER DRONES. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K. I'LL SECOND IT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. AT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT BRINGS US [15. Discuss/Act on approving Prime Contract Change Order No. 013 to the agreement with SCI Construction for the Rockwall County Sheriff Office Renovation project, and all related issues; (Auditor) ] TO AGENDA ITEM 15, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING PRIME CONTRACT CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 13 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH SCI CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ROCKWALL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE RENOVATION PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. THIS IS WHAT WE CALL IN COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION, A CHRISTMAS PRESENT. WHENEVER YOU DO, YOU DO DEMO ON A PROJECT, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING UNTIL YOU OPEN IT UP. SO THIS, UH, A LOT OF TIMES THE PRESENT YOU GET WHEN YOU DO DEMO IS CONCRETE WORK NEEDS TO BE, NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND, AND, UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THIS IS ADDITIONAL CONCRETE WORK AGAIN, UM, COMMISSIONER LICHTY AND I KIND OF GOT TO THE BOTTOM OF WHY THESE SHOW UP. THE WAY THEY DO UNDER THIS CONTRACT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REALLY SET UP AS ALLOWANCES, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE CALLED ALLOWANCES. SO CONTRACTUALLY WE HAVE TO MOVE THE MONEY, BUT THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE FOR SAW CUTTING. THIS IS IN THAT ALLOWANCE. SO THIS ISN'T GOING INTO THE CONTINGENCY. AND THIS IS JUST ADDITIONAL CUTTING AND POURING CONCRETE. AS THE JUDGE SAID, THE CHRISTMAS PRESENT OF DOING DEMO IN AN OLD BUILDING IS SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA CUT MORE THAN YOU THINK. SO THIS IS WHAT, WHAT NICO CALLED POUR BACK. SO WE CUT IT OPEN AND NOW WE'VE GOTTA CLOSE IT UP. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDER IS. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE PRIME CONTRACT CHANGE ORDER 13 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH SCI CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ROCKWELL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE RENOVATION PROJECT. I'LL SECOND IT. GOT MY MOTION. GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LTE. [01:20:01] ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT TAKES US [16. Discuss/Act on proposal with Bluum Technology for updates to the audio system in the Commissioners Courtroom at the Historic Courthouse, and all related items; (IT Director) ] TO AGENDA ITEM 16, DISCUSS AND ACT ON A PROPOSAL WITH BLOOM TECHNOLOGIES FOR THE UPDATES TO THE AUDIO SYSTEM, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. MR. CRENSHAW? I'M BACK. UM, SO THIS IS FOR, IN THIS ROOM. WE WANT TO LOWER THESE MIC ARRAYS SO THAT WHEN WE'RE HAVING A GROUP MEETING, THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER PICKUP. UH, WE WANT TO ADD ANOTHER AMP TO THE SPEAKER SYSTEM SO WE CAN, RIGHT NOW IT'S DIVIDED INTO TWO ZONES. SO, UH, THAT'LL HELP. WE'RE GONNA PUT IT INTO FOUR ZONES. SO THAT'LL HELP US FIGHT FEEDBACK A LITTLE BIT EASIER. UM, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO RETUNE EVERYTHING AND ADD SOME BUTTONS TO THE PANEL OVER THERE. THAT'S WHAT THIS WORK IS FOR. AND IT'S GONNA COME FROM JENNIFER'S, UH, OR COMM, UH, COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE'S, UH, RECORDS MANAGEMENT FUND. AND THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PROJECTOR? NO. THAT PROJECT IS, UH, ALREADY APPROVED AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LAST WEEK OF MAY. YOU SUGGESTED WE LOOK FOR LIKE A FIVE WEEK. I DID. AND THAT, AND WHAT I'M PLANNING ON DOING IS DOING THIS AND THAT ONE ALL IN THAT ONE WEEK IF I CAN. SO ONCE THIS ONE'S APPROVED, I'M GONNA GET WITH BLOOM AND TRY TO, YEAH, I TOLD IT. LOOK FOR A FIVE WEEK MONTH, COME IN THE DAY AFTER COURT GIVES US THE BEST LEAD TIME IN BETWEEN COURTS, SO IT, IT PROBABLY WILL BE UNUSABLE FOR A FULL WEEK. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN IS. I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, UM, JENNIFER FOG AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT FOLLOWING THE, THE LAST, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORTIUM MEETING HAD TO DO WITH THE MICROPHONES. NOT THESE, NOT LIKE WHAT WE HAVE, BUT THE ONES THAT WE USE FOR THE TABLES, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HIT AND MISS AND THEY'RE KIND OF GARBLED A LOT OF TIMES FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE. DO WE HAVE ANY FUNDS FOR SOMETHING TO MAYBE LOOK AT PURCHASING A, A BETTER UPGRADE TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE? AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE PUT THIS IN THE BUDGET, BY THE WAY, SO I'M JUST ASKING. UM, I I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN MY BUDGET DIRECTLY FOR THAT. BUT LOWERING THESE, THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, UM, LIKE ARRAY MICS, UHHUH. SO THE IDEA IS THAT IF WE CAN GET THESE CLOSER, THEN IT'LL SOUND BETTER. WE WON'T HAVE TO USE DESKTOP MICS. PERFECT. BECAUSE THESE ARE JUST VOICE OF UPLIFT MICS. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THAT KIND OF THING. PERFECT. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SO HIGH THAT YOU HAVE TO TURN 'EM UP REALLY HIGH AND EVERY LITTLE THING, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST DON'T WORK VERY WELL. 'CAUSE THEY'RE TOO HIGH, BASICALLY. OKAY, GOOD. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CRENSHAW? ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PROPOSAL WITH BLOOM TECHNOLOGIES FOR UPDATES TO THE AUDIO SYSTEM, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE. SECOND. GOT MY MOTION, GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT BRINGS US TO [Items 17 - 19] AGENDA ITEM 17, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVAL OF A GENERAL VICTIM'S ASSISTANT DIRECT SERVICES GRANT FOR FY 2027. APPLICATION 3 3 8 9 3 1 0 AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. DISTRICT ATTORNEY COLE PEPPER. GOOD MORNING, KEN CULPEPPER, DISTRICT ATTORNEY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO, WITH THE COURT'S PERMISSION, TAKE 17, 18, AND 19 TOGETHER. THEY ARE THREE, I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS. I DIDN'T BRING MY AGENDA UP, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THOSE ARE THE THREE GRANTS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL. UM, THESE ARE, THIS IS JUST APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND SO I AM HAPPY WE DO HAVE THE, THE LANGUAGE REGARDING THE AUDITOR IN OUR RESOLUTION. SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? AND I WILL SAY THESE ARE ALL EITHER CONTINUATION OR RENEWAL GRANTS. ALL RIGHT. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION NOW. WE, WE'VE GOT 'EM IN DIFFERENT, UH, LINE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THREE DIFFERENT ACTIONS, BUT, UM, CERTAINLY IT'S SIMILAR. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY IS SO INCLINED. I WILL MAKE A MOTION, UM, THAT WE APPROVE THE GENERAL VICTIM ASSISTANCE DIRECT SERVICES GRANT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027. THE APPLICATION NUMBER 3 3 8 9 3 1 0. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GUANA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. AGENDA ITEM 18, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVAL OF THE FELONY FAMILY VIOLENCE PROSECUTOR GRANT FOR FY 2027. APPLICATION 2 8 2 4 1 1 3 AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FELONY FAMILY VIOLENCE PROSECUTOR GRANT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027. APPLICATION NUMBER [01:25:01] 2 8 2 4 1 1 3. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTY? I'LL SECOND IT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. AGENDA ITEM 19, DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVAL OF CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN PROSECUTOR GRANT FOR FY 2027. APPLICATION 3 6 5 1 15 0 9 AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN PROSECUTOR GRANT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027. APPLICATION NUMBER 3 6 5 1 5 0 9. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICK DEE SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. DISTRICT ATTORNEY COLE PEPPER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT, UH, IF THOSE GRANTS ARE APPROVED, THEN IT'LL SAVE THE COUNTY SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO WE LIKE SAVING SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. THANK YOU. SURE. WE'RE WE'RE GONNA TAKE A, A QUICK 10 MINUTE BREAK. IT IS 10 26. WE'LL BE BACK AT 10 36. ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE QUICK BREAK. UH, IT IS 10 37 AND WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO OUR REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING. WE ARE ON [20. CONSENT AGENDA] AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20, CONSENT AGENDA. JUDGE, I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS A THROUGH H ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO [21. PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS/DISPOSITIONS] ZERO. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 21. JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, ACQUISITIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US. ITEM 21 A, HAVE A OR THE DISPOSITION, I'M, I'M SORRY. HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TY. I'LL SECOND THAT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K FOR THE RECORD BEFORE WE VOTE, I'M GONNA READ IT, DISCUSS, AND ACT ON APPROVING THE FOLLOWING PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS AND DISPOSITIONS OF FIXED ASSETS. SO IF YOU WILL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. [23. APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL(S)] THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 23, APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS AND PAYROLL. MS. LISA? THANK YOU, SIR. I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT PAID CLAIMS, THE AMOUNT OF $66,156 AND 31 CENTS, AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL. MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. HOLD ON TO YOUR HAT 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS TO MAKE. UH, I'M SPENDING TO YOU UNPAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $11,000,481 AND THREE, SORRY, $11,481,351 AND 42 CENTS. AND I ASKED FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL, MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ANA. I'LL SECOND, BUT CAN YOU, UM, READ INTO THE RECORD WHAT THE DEBT PAYMENT IS? OKAY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACY, THE UNPAID CLAIMS FOR TODAY. I'LL DO 'EM SEPARATELY. THE UNPAID CLAIMS TODAY IS $1,155,319 AND 54 CENTS. AND THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE ALL OF OUR PAYMENTS AND THEIR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST. WHEN IT'S FEBRUARY PAYMENT, UH, THAT TOTALS $10,326,031 AND 88 CENTS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO AND I'M ALSO SUBMITTING TO THE PAYROLL REPORT FOR THE PAY PERIOD ENDING $1,200,762 AND 27 CENTS, AND ASKED FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL. MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GALANA. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES [24. EXECUTIVE SESSION] US TO AGENDA ITEM 24, EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ROCKWALL COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THE MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA OR IN THIS ITEM IN THE ORDER DEEMED APPROPRIATE AS AUTHORIZED BY CHAPTER 5 5 1 OPEN MEETING SUBCHAPTER D TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF ITS ATTORNEY. ON THOSE ITEMS, WE WILL BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION AND ATTORNEY CLIENT INFORMATION DISCUSSION OF DR. HORTON LITIGATION AND MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS DISCUSSION REGARDING VAPE COMPANY LAWSUIT, DISCUSSION ON LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO PENDING OR RECENT PERSONNEL CLAIMS IN [01:30:01] ALL RELATED ISSUES. AND WE MAY HAVE DISCUSSION OF PERSONNEL MATTERS DISCUSSION REGARDING THE OPEN FIRE MARSHAL POSITION. SO AT 10 40 WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYONE. [25. RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION] UH, PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 5 5 1, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.001. THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION TO TAKE ANY ACTION NECESSARY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND I'LL TELL YOU, NO ACTION TAKEN. [26. COMMISSIONERS COURT REPORTS] THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 26. COMMISSIONER COURT REPORTS. COMMISSIONER STACY, LET'S START WITH YOU. UM, I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT. I JUST HOPE THAT EVERYONE IS SURVIVING, UM, THROUGH ALL OF THIS. I WANT TO THANK THE, UH, ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS THAT HAD TO DO, I I, WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT, UH, FROM SHERIFF GARRETT ON SOME ISSUES, AND I JUST WANNA THANK THAT THE ROAD AND BRIDGE CREWS, THE CITIES AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED. I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS OFTEN, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, NO SIGNIFICANT LONG POWER OUTAGES AND HOPEFUL, HOPEFULLY WE ARE THROUGH WITH OUR ONE WINTER WEEK THAT WE GET EVERY YEAR. UM, SO, UH, IT TYPICALLY HAPPENS AROUND MY BIRTHDAY AND IT DID AGAIN. SO, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO DRIVE AROUND NEXT WEEK SO I CAN GO OUT TO EAT FOR MY BIRTHDAY. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER LICHTY, UH, I'D ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER STACY SAID ABOUT THANKING EVERYONE'S AND ESPECIALLY JARED ROSS AND HIS HARD WORK AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN. UM, UH, CONTINUING THE THEME OF THIS BEING OUR 250TH ANNIVERSARY THIS WEEK IN 1776, ON JANUARY 25TH, CONGRESS AUTHORIZED THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRST NATIONAL MEMORIAL MONUMENT IN HONOR OF GENERAL RICHARD MONTGOMERY. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN HIRED A FRENCH SCULPTOR TO DESIGN AND BUILD THE MONUMENT, AND IT WAS COMPLETED TWO YEARS LATER IN 1778 AND INSTALLED AT ST. PAUL'S CHURCH IN NEW YORK CITY GENERAL. RICHARD MONTGOMERY WAS A KEY FIGURE IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARY WAR, BORN IN IRELAND IN DECEMBER OF 1738. HE INITIALLY SERVED IN THE BRITISH ARMY BEFORE JOINING THE CONTINENTAL ARMY AS A MAJOR GENERAL MONTGOMERY IS BEST KNOWN FOR LEADING THE AMERICAN FORCES DURING THE FAILED INVASION OF CANADA IN 1775, WHERE HE CAPTURED MONTREAL, BUT WAS ULTIMATELY KILLED IN THE BATTLE OF QUEBEC ON DECEMBER 31ST, 1775. HIS LEADERSHIP IN EARLY VICTORIES MADE HIM ONE OF THE FIRST PROMINENT GENERALS IN THE CONTINENTAL ARMY, AND HE IS REMEMBERED AS A SIGNIFICANT MILITARY LEADER IN THE FIGHT FOR AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE, WHICH WE ENJOYED. STILL TODAY, MONTGOMERY'S REMAINS WERE MOVED TO THE CHAPEL WHERE, WHICH HOUSED THE MONUMENT IN 1818. THANK HIM FOR ALL THEY DID TO BRING US FREEDOM. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER M**K, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I DO, I DO ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER STACEY SAID AS FAR AS ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR, AND OUR GUYS IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND, AND, AND JARED ROSSON. I DO APPRECIATE ALL, ALL EVERYONE'S EFFORTS DURING THIS TIME. YEAH, I'LL ECHO COMMISSIONER STACY AND COMMISSIONER ICK THAT WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY FOR THEIR EFFORTS. IT WAS, UH, IT WAS NOT FUN, BUT, UM, I THINK IT WENT AS WELL AS IT, IT COULD HAVE. AND I'D LIKE TO COMMEND, UM, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, JARED ROSSON, DID A REALLY GREAT JOB, UM, LEADING SOME CALLS AND, AND BEING PREPARED, UH, FOR THE WORST. UH, IN ADDITION, UH, YESTERDAY WAS HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY. IT MARKED THE 81ST ANNIVERSARY OF THE LIBERATION OF THE A AUSCHWITZ CONCENTRATION CAMP. IT'S HARD TO SAY ALTOGETHER. UM, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, WE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT ALWAYS THAT THERE, UH, THE RISE IN ANTISEMITISM, BOTH, UM, LOCALLY AND AROUND THE WORLD IS, UH, IS CONCERNING AND SHOCKING, AND I HAVE MORE TO COME ON THAT LATER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR MY COMMISSIONER COURT REPORT. I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO LISA. CONSTANT WILEY. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. SO, I LET THE JUDGE KNOW YESTERDAY THAT THE MARTY, YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, HILLTOP SECURITIES, THEY WENT TO OUT TO MARKET, UH, FOR THE BOND SALE. AND IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL SALE. THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST. WE, UH, WE RECEIVED A 3.8% INTEREST. TRUE THE FINAL TRUE INTEREST COST IS 3.8%. AND MARTY SAYS SHE'S ESTIMATING THAT THE INS TAX RATE IMPACT BE ABOUT 1.32 CENTS BASED ON ALL THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT SHE LAST SHARED WITH THE COURT. SO WE'LL HAVE MORE TO FOLLOW, UM, AND GIVE AN UPDATE WHEN THE MONEY HAS BEEN RECEDED. BUT, UH, OVERALL IT WAS SUCCESS SUCCESSFUL SALE. THANK [01:35:01] YOU. EVERYONE INVOLVED AND AT 1154 WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.