[A. INVOCATION; Commissioner Bobby Gallana]
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          EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE. IT IS MAY 26TH, 9 A.M. ON MCCALL TO ORDER OUR REGULAR COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING. I'M GOING TO ASK COMMISSIONER GALLINA TO LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION. AND COMMISSIONER LICHTY TO LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGES. PLEASE STAND AS YOU ARE ABLE. EVERYBODY, IF YOU'LL PRAY WITH ME. LORD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR STEADFAST PRESENCE IN OUR LIVES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SON'S ULTIMATE SACRIFICE SO THAT WE MAY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN. LORD, AS WE JUST CELEBRATED MEMORIAL DAY, I PRAY FOR COMFORT. 
          COMFORT FOR ALL OUR GOLD STAR FAMILIES, THOSE WHO LOST FRIENDS AND BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN ARMS. I ASK FOR A SPECIAL BLESSING OF PROTECTION ON OUR WAR FIGHTERS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR BRAVERY. I PRAY FOR ALL OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL AND ASK THAT YOU, LORD, GIVE THEM WISE DISCERNMENT AND THE FORTITUDE TO SEEK YOU IN THIS SPIRITUAL BATTLE WE ARE WAGING. THANK YOU, LORD, FOR YOUR GRACE AND MERCY IN YESHUA'S NAME, AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN WITH ME AS WE PLEDGE THE AMERICAN FLAG. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND NOW THE TEXAS FLAGS HONOR TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. SOMETHING I SELDOM DO. RECOGNITION OF GUESTS RANDOMLY BECAUSE I KNOW IT SCARES PEOPLE WHEN YOU DO THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT I HAVE A NEW INTERN HERE NAMED AINSLEY DAVIS. AINSLEY, IF YOU WOULD JUST STAND UP AND WAVE AINSLEY, SHE'S GOING TO HELP ME WITH THE PROJECT. I'M GOING TO REVIVE OUR IDEA OF HANGING LOCAL ARTIST ARTWORK IN THE BUILDING. SO SHE'S GOING TO HELP REWRITE THE POLICY, DO AN INVENTORY AND JUST FACILITATE THAT FOR US. THANK YOU. AINSLEY. ALL RIGHT. THIS BRINGS US TO 
          [1. PUBLIC FORUM: (This is the public’s opportunity to address the Commissioners Court about County matters. During this meeting, the Commissioners Court will not discuss, consider or take action on any item not included on this meeting’s agenda. We respectfully ask that anyone stepping forward to speak during the Public Forum to please limit remarks to three minutes or less.)]
AGENDA ITEM ONE PUBLIC FORUM. IT'S THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COURT ABOUT ANY COUNTY MATTERS. A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP. RACHEL WHITMIRE. RACHEL, I KNOW YOU'VE SPOKEN BEFORE, SO YOU KNOW THE RULES. TRY TO KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. AND IT'S RACHEL, NOT RACHEL, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE RACHEL, IT'S ROCHELLE. OH. I'M SORRY. NO THAT'S OKAY, THAT'S OKAY. AND THE KIDS ARE HERE TO GET HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT OF AN EDUCATION ON THEIR SUMMER BREAK. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY WE HAD FAMILY OVER YESTERDAY AND WE PLAYED A GAME AND SOMETHING THAT MY HUSBAND AND I SAID WAS, WHAT WAS NICE ABOUT THE GAME IS THAT WE HAD TO ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION. IT WASN'T A GAME THAT YOU COULD TALK ASIDE OR SCREEN ROLL ON YOUR PHONE, BECAUSE IF YOUR CARD CAME UP AND YOU MISSED IT, YOU WERE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THE PLAY. SO YOU HAD TO PAY ATTENTION AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU WERE DOING, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A GOOD OUTCOME. AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LIST OF STORIES THAT WEATHER WE'VE SEEN ON OUR CAMERA THAT MY OWN CHILDREN HAVE EXPERIENCED, THAT I MYSELF HAVE EXPERIENCED. AND UNFORTUNATELY, AS WE KNOW PEOPLE, WE TEND TO NOT LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS OURSELVES. AND WE ARE VERY SELF-FOCUSED SOCIETY. AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING. AND WE HAVE TRIED NUMEROUS THINGS FROM TALKING TO OUR NEIGHBORS. THE SHERIFF'S HAVE BEEN OUT THERE TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING OUR MOST VULNERABLE SAFE, AND IT'S NOT WORKING. SO WHAT I DON'T SEE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A MEANS OF HAVING TO PAY ATTENTION. WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS WHERE MY KIDS MYSELF CAN WALK. WE CAN WALK OUR DOGS. WE DON'T HAVE LINES THAT STOP SIGNS. WE DON'T HAVE SPEED HUMPS SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SLOW DOWN. AND IT'S POSING A REAL THREAT TO, LIKE I SAID, OUR MOST VULNERABLE, THE TWO THAT SIT BEHIND ME, THE THREE THAT LIVE NEXT TO ME, MY NIECES THAT LIVE DOWN THE STREET. AND I'M NOT WILLING TO WAIT UNTIL SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPENS WHERE PEOPLE WAKE UP AND THEY SAY, OKAY, NOW WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING. SO I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. TO GIVE US A SAFETY MEANS TO HELP, BECAUSE WE CAN'T RELY, UNFORTUNATELY, ON OUR NEIGHBORS TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR TODAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. NEXT PERSON SIGNED UP IS TODD AARONS. GOOD MORNING. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. OBVIOUSLY NOT NEW TO THE MICROPHONE HERE. SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 1520 STERLING RIDGE COURT, HIGH POINT LAKE ESTATES. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SPEED HUMPS. ALSO ROCHELLE HAS PRETTY MUCH SUMMED IT UP REALLY REALLY WELL. I'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 2013. SO THERE WAS 29 HOUSES OUT OF 357 LOTS. AND BACK THEN IT WAS 
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PRETTY MANAGEABLE. WE DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC AND A WHOLE LOT OF SPEEDERS. AND AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S GROWN PRE AND POST COVID, IT'S GOTTEN CRAZY. I RAISED MY TWO YOUNGER BOYS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. TO ROCHELLE'S POINT, HER KIDS ARE LITTLE. IT'S NERVE WRACKING TO LET YOUR KIDS OUT IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD AND. AND IT SHOULDN'T BE. AND BY DESIGN, THERE'S A LOT OF LONG STRETCHES OF ROADS UP TO THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE STRAIGHT TO THE POINT THAT SHE BROUGHT UP. THERE'S NOTHING TO SLOW THEM DOWN. WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS MAILBOXES TAKEN OUT OVER THE YEARS. WE'VE HAD KIDS ON GOLF CARTS, ACCIDENTALLY HIT MAILBOXES BECAUSE THEY GOT RAN OFF THE ROAD BY CARS. JUST WEDNESDAY NIGHT, I WENT FOR A WALK WITH THE DOG, WITH MY SON, AND WE ALMOST GOT HIT ON ON HIGH POINT LAKE ESTATES ROAD BY A GUY IN AN F250. IT WAS DUSK AND HE BEEPED AT US, AND WE WERE AS CLOSE TO THE MAILBOX ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AS YOU COULD. I HAD TO PUSH MY 19 YEAR OLD SON INTO THE CULVERT WITH THE DOG. NOW HE DIDN'T FALL DOWN OR ANYTHING, BUT IT WAS A NEAR MISS AND THE GUY ENDED UP BLOWING HIS HORN AT US. THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE SITTING OUT AT THEIR PATIO CAME AND RAN OUT. 
          AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY, MANY STORIES. AND, AND THERE'S VIDEO, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO RUN THE STOP SIGNS. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LIVING THERE FOR 13 YEARS, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING. I MEAN, WE'VE GONE AND APPROACHED AND SAID, HEY, JOHN, COULD YOU SLOW DOWN? AND WE'RE MET WITH FUF THIS, THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD TOO. I PAY MY TAXES. SO NOBODY DOES THAT ANYMORE. AND, AND WE'VE GONE TO PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM CALLING OUT LICENSE PLATES, CALLING OUT COLORS OF CARS. AND IT'S, IT'S NEVER MY SON. IT'S NOT MY SON. IT'S YOU'VE GOT THIS MISINFORMED STUFF LIKE THAT. AND WE HAD BACK ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO, WE HAD THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS PUT UP AND HALF THE COMMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE. LET'S SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS COME UP. CAN I HIT 99 ON THERE? AND I MEAN, AND IT'S TO HER POINT, THERE'S NO LOVE THY NEIGHBOR. SO I GUESS WE'VE CALLED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT NUMEROUS TIMES. THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WHEN THEY COME OUT, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S REALLY NO PLACE FOR THEM TO HIDE. SO EVERYBODY SEES THEM. OR SOMEBODY GOES ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SAYS, S O IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, S O IS IT? SO? I MEAN, EVERYBODY DOES, RIGHT? THEY'RE THEY'RE GOOD CHRISTIANS FOR THAT ONE MILE. RIGHT. SO SO I GUESS WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY PLEADING WITH YOU GUYS TO HELP US OUT. AND I DO THINK THE SPEED HUMPS WOULD HELP. I'VE SEEN EM IN BUFFALO CREEK. THEY SLOW ME DOWN IN BUFFALO CREEK. I'VE SEEN THEM OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY AND THEY DO HELP. AND I GUESS WE'RE AT OUR LAST RESORT RIGHT NOW. AND TRUST ME, I WENT TO A FUNERAL 20 YEARS AGO FOR A FIVE YEAR OLD THAT GOT HIT IN A CROSSWALK WHEN I LIVED IN WISCONSIN. YOU DO NOT WANT TO GO TO ONE OF THOSE FUNERALS, AND NOBODY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN TO THEM, THEIR DOG, THEIR ELDERLY PARENTS, OR ANYBODY. AND WITHOUT SIDEWALKS, I MEAN, THERE ARE STREETS TO WALK ON TO. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR YOUR HELP. APPRECIATE YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. TODD. ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT WAS THE ONLY TWO SIGNED UP. BUT IF YOU'VE BEEN TO COURT BEFORE, YOU ARE AWARE THAT YOU CAN STILL SPEAK. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN UP. SO ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNTY REGARDING ANY COUNTY MATTERS CAN COME FORWARD. NOW, SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO 
          [2. Discuss/Act on request from High Point Lake Estates Homeowners Association for installation of speed humps, and all related matters; (Commissioner Liechty – County Engineer)]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. DISCUSS AND ACT ON REQUEST FROM HIGH POINT LAKE ESTATES HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR INSTALLATION OF SPEED HUMPS AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. COMMISSIONER LICHTY, THANKS A LOT, JUDGE. WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT ROCHELLE AND TODD SPOKE ABOUT. 
          I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE FOLKS AT HIGH POINT LAKE ESTATES NOW FOR QUITE A WHILE ABOUT THIS, AND THEY HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE INSTALL THE SPEED HUMPS THEIR HOA HAS NOW. 
          COUNTY. THE COUNTY POLICY THAT WE ADOPTED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO REQUIRES 60% APPROVAL BEFORE WE'LL DO A WARRANT STUDY. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT TO 60%, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PROVISION SAYS. I KNOW I READ SOMETHING ON ANOTHER COUNTY WHERE THEY GOT THEY HAVE 50%. I DON'T KNOW WHICH WE CHOSE 60. WELL, THE HOA WENT OUT AND TRIED THEIR BEST TO GET THIS AND THEY GOT 58%. AND WE'VE GOT A SECRETARY SERVICE CERTIFICATE THAT ESTABLISHES THE VOTE. THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD, BUT AS YOU HEARD, SOME OF THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE NOT GOOD NEIGHBORS AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN. SO THEY GOT 58%. THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAS PASSED A RESOLUTION ASKING THAT, DESPITE IT WAS ONLY 58%, THAT THEY WOULD THAT THEY WOULD ASK THE COUNTY TO INSTALL TO DO THE WARRANT STUDY TO INSTALL SPEED HUMPS. TO ME, ONE OF THE MOST TELLING ISSUES AND REASONS FOR DOING THIS IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. THEY DON'T HAVE TRAILS ALONG THE ROADS. IF YOU WANT TO GO FOR A WALK, YOU'RE TAKING YOUR LIFE INTO YOUR HANDS. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PERSONALLY BECAUSE I LIVE ON A STREET LIKE 
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THAT, WHERE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET MY CITY, HEATH, TO BUILD A TRAIL ALONGSIDE CHERRY LANE, WHERE I LIVE FOR DECADES, AND WE HAVEN'T GOT IT YET, BUT I THINK WE'RE CLOSE. AND WHEN YOU'RE WALKING ON A STREET LIKE THAT, AND IF IT'S JUST ONE OUT OF TEN CARS THAT'S SPEEDING, YOU'RE STILL TAKING YOUR LIFE INTO YOUR HANDS. AND THAT'S THE SITUATION THEY HAVE. AND IT'S A THEY SAID 430 HOMES, I THINK 357, 357 HOMES THEY HAVE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S AND THAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A LOT OF FAMILIES. IT'S A LOT OF CHILDREN. ONE OF THE LETTERS YOU'LL SEE THAT WAS DELIVERED YOU TO. HERE IS A LETTER FROM ALEX GROSSO, ONE OF THEIR CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHO ASKED US TO PUT IN SPEED HUMPS. HE'S 11 YEARS OLD. AND. 
          IS THAT ALEX THAT'S HERE? NO, THAT'S THAT'S ZANDER HERE. YEAH. AND HE AND HIS FRIENDS PLAY A LOT. YEAH. THEY'VE GOT A HUGE. IT'S ANOTHER ENTRY STREET OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S A BIG SPEEDING PROBLEM. THEY ARE ON THIS STREET THAT PROBABLY HAS THE MOST SPEEDING. IT'S AN EXIT ROAD OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. SO CARS GET TO A PRETTY GOOD SPEED. IT'S A LONG RUN FROM ONE STOP SIGN TO GAUGE ROAD, AND THEY PROBABLY GET 5050 PLUS MILES AN HOUR. SO WE'VE GOT A GROUP OF LETTERS, ONE FROM ALEX AND THEN FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASKING FOR THIS. I THINK THIS IS EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T HIT 60%, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE WE DO IT. I'VE TALKED WITH OUR ENGINEER, ERICA, AND SHE THINKS WE CAN DO THIS IN HOUSE. WE GOT A QUOTE FROM OUR CONSULTANT, WHICH WAS FRANKLY A LOT HIGHER THAN EITHER OF US EXPECTED, BUT SHE THINKS WE CAN DO IT IN HOUSE AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT. SO I'M HERE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO GRANT A VARIANCE ON THIS IN ORDER TO PROCEED WITH A WARRANT STUDY. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE WILL PUT IN THE SPEED HUMPS, BUT IT'S A FIRST STEP. 
          AND FRANK MERLINO IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU JUDGE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. HE'D LIKE TO SPEAK. THAT IS GREAT FOR THEM. ALSO. KEN CAN YOU JUST FOR MY PURPOSES, WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT. DOLLAR AMOUNT. ROUGHLY $25,000, 5000. AND I THINK THE ONE THEY DID FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS 12,500 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO THAT IN HOUSE. OKAY. YEAH. SO ANYWAY, IT HIS WAS THE LAST ONE WE ASKED THAT WAS 12,005. AND NOW THEY WENT TO 25,000. SO IT'S JUST WAY TOO MUCH MONEY. AND I THINK WE CAN DO IT IN HOUSE. BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. BUT ANYWAY MR. MERLINO, IF YOU GO AHEAD, PLEASE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. I'M FRANK MERLINO FROM 2410 WINDCREST DRIVE INSIDE HIGH POINT LAKE ESTATES. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA AS WELL AS THE RESIDENT. I DO HAVE COPIES OF THE LETTERS IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE THEM. 
          IF I COULD PRESENT THEM TO THE COURT. ARE YOU ALREADY GOT THEM? OKAY, I KNOW I SENT THEM TO YOU. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY GOT THEM. OKAY. SO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LECCE, FOR ALL YOUR HELP. IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS, AND I KNOW THAT I PROBABLY SPEAK TO YOU WAY MORE THAN YOU WANT ME TO, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP. SO I JUST WANTED TO READ SOMETHING THAT I HAD PUT TOGETHER ON THIS BECAUSE OF MY INVOLVEMENT WITH IT. SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS FRANK MERLINO. I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING THE RESIDENTS OF HIGH POINT LAKE ESTATES. REGARDING OUR REQUEST FOR THE COUNTY TO PROCEED WITH A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE POSSIBLE INSTALLATION OF SPEED HUMPS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COURT FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION, AS WELL AS ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONTINUED SUPPORT RECEIVED FROM THE ROCKWALL COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. SPECIFICALLY, SHERIFF GARRETT, WHO HAS COME OUT, HAD HIS PATROL PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY PUT UP SPEED READING BOXES THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, DONE A GREAT THING. I MEAN, AGAIN, LIKE TODD SAID, IT GETS OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA RIGHT AWAY WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE THE BOXES ARE. LAST BOX THEY PUT UP ACTUALLY ENDED UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA PROBABLY TEN MINUTES AFTER IT WAS PUT UP SAYING, WHAT IS THIS? AND THEN IT GETS OUT THAT THAT'S WHAT IT IS AND PEOPLE SLOW DOWN AND THAT'S GREAT. WHATEVER WORKS TO SLOW THEM DOWN. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF IT, RIGHT? SO IF WE COULD LEAVE THAT BOX UP THERE PERMANENTLY, THAT MIGHT BE GOOD. SO WE ESPECIALLY, AGAIN, APPRECIATE SHERIFF GARRETT AND HIS STAFF FOR THE ASSISTANCE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, YOU KNOW, MONITORING THE SPEED AND CONCERNS WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON. I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR FOUR YEARS NOW. I MOVED IN IN 2019, AND IT WAS AN EVEN BIGGER ISSUE BACK THEN. WE PUT UP SPEED READERS, WE REDUCED OUR SPEED TO 25 MILES AN HOUR. DOESN'T SEEM TO MATTER. SOME THINGS SEEM TO BE OPTIONAL, AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF VIDEOS THAT I'LL SHOW IN A LITTLE BIT THAT WILL OUTLINE THAT. SO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS WERE NOT DESIGNED WITH SIDEWALKS. UNFORTUNATELY, AS A RESULT, OUR ROADS ARE SHARED BY VEHICLES, PEDESTRIANS, CHILDREN'S CYCLISTS AND RESIDENTS WALKING THEIR PETS. FAMILIES USE THESE ROADWAYS EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND MANY RESIDENTS NO LONGER FEEL SAFE WALKING IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF EXCESSIVE SPEEDS. AND IT COULD BE ANYONE. TO BE HONEST, AS A COMMUNITY, WE HAVE NOT IGNORED THE ISSUE OVER THE YEARS. WE HAVE ACTIVELY WORKED TO ADDRESS 
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IT THROUGH MULTIPLE EFFORTS. WE REDUCED THE SPEED LIMIT TO 25MPH. WE INSTALLED ELECTRONIC SPEED READERS THAT FLASH WHEN YOU'RE OVER THE SPEED LIMIT SO YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING OVER AND IT KIND OF ALERTS YOU TO SLOW DOWN. WE ALSO WORK WITH SHERIFF GARRETT'S OFFICE TO CONDUCT TRAFFIC MONITORING ENFORCEMENT ON SEVERAL ROADS THROUGHOUT THE SUBDIVISION. ONE PARTICULARLY CONCERNING STUDY, CONDUCTED OVER A TEN DAY PERIOD ON WINDING CREEK LANE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY EXIT ROADS IN AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY, DOCUMENTED MORE THAN 250 INSTANCES OF VEHICLES TRAVELING OVER 35MPH ON A RESIDENTIAL ROADWAY WITH NO SIDEWALKS. 
          THOSE NUMBERS ARE ALARMING, RIGHT? THAT'S 250 TIMES THAT SOMEONE COULD HAVE STEPPED OFF THAT CURB. ALEX GRASSO, WHO HAPPENS TO LIVE ON WINDING CREEK AND THEY ALL PLAY ON THAT STREET, COULD HAVE STEPPED INTO THE ROAD AND BEEN HIT BY ONE OF THOSE 250 CARS. SO WHILE IT MAY BE A LOW PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CARS THAT COME THROUGH, IT'S STILL 250 TIMES IN TEN DAYS, A TEN DAY SPAN. SO DESPITE THE ALL OF OUR EFFORTS, THE SPEEDING PROBLEM PERSISTS. 
          I HEAR COMMENTS ALL THE TIME ON FACEBOOK. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN. THEY DON'T WANT IT TO TAKE MORE THAN 30S LONGER TO GET OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAN IT DOES CURRENTLY. THEY'LL TELL US THAT CHILDREN SHOULD BE MORE RESPONSIBLE WHILE PLAYING IN THE STREET. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY BECOME PRUDENT UNTIL ABOUT 17, SO ALTHOUGH WE COULD TELL THEM EVERYTHING WE WANT TO, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO STILL ACT THE WAY THAT THEY DO THEIR CHILDREN, RIGHT. IT'S OUR OUR ROLE AS ADULTS TO PROTECT THEM. IN RESPONSE, OUR HOA CONDUCTED A COMMUNITY WIDE ELECTRONIC VOTE THAT CONCLUDED ON APRIL 21ST REGARDING WHETHER RESIDENTS SUPPORTED MOVING FORWARD WITH THE COUNTY STUDY FOR SPEED HUMPS. AS COMMISSIONER, LECCE SAID THE RESULTS SHOWED A 58% VOTED IN FAVOR, WHILE 42% VOTED AGAINST. ADDITIONALLY, APPROXIMATELY 60% OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATED IN THE VOTING PROCESS, WHICH LEFT 40% OF OUR COMMUNITY OUT. AND IT'S VERY COMMON IN HOA, AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW, TO GET 60% OF ANYTHING OR 67% FROM AN HOA IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. SO IT DOES. THE 58% TO US STILL REFLECTS ENGAGEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S A PRETTY STRONG NUMBER OVERALL. AND FOR US TO GET 58% ON ANYTHING WAS AN ACHIEVEMENT. SO WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY'S CURRENT REQUIREMENTS, A 60% APPROVAL THRESHOLD TO PROCEED WITH THE STUDY. HOWEVER, WE HAVE RESPECTFULLY ASKED THE COURT TO CONSIDER WAIVING THE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS INSTANCE. TODAY, WE ARE NOT ASKING THE COURT TO APPROVE SPEED HUMPS OUTRIGHT. AS WE KNOW, THE STUDY HAS TO BE COMPLETED, BUT WE DO FEEL THAT WE HAD ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE STUDY TO WARRANT, AT LEAST WARRANT THE STUDY TO SEE IF IT WOULD HELP US AND HELP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE BELIEVE THAT RESIDENT SAFETY CAN BE IMPROVED THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES. AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU FOR THE PARTNERSHIP IN HELPING US CONTINUE ADDRESSING THE ISSUE BEFORE A SERIOUS ACCIDENT OCCURS. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF ROCKWALL COUNTY AND YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR REQUEST. I DO HAVE TWO VIDEOS BEFORE YOU LEAVE. BEFORE YOU PLAY THE VIDEOS, I WANT TO ASK, SO. SO HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED? THERE WERE 128 AND 92, SO ABOUT 210. SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, 128 VOTED FOR 128 VOTED FOR AND 92 AGAINST, AND ABOUT 200 AND WHATEVER. THAT ADDS UP TO 210, 220. AND THEN HOW MANY YOU SAID 354. 357357 OKAY. YOU CAN PLAY YOUR VIDEOS. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS. HE'S DOING MATH, I THINK. I THINK IT WAS LIKE 60, ALMOST 61%. YOU WANT TO. OKAY. SO IF I JUST, OH, DO WE IT'S NOT SHOWING. OKAY. THERE'S NO SOUND EITHER. THE SOUND IS THE IMPORTANT PART. SHOWING SOUND. 
          IT'S NOT MUTED. SO WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT, LET ME SET THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY MY HOUSE. WE HAVE THREE NEIGHBOR BOYS THAT LIVE TO THE RIGHT AGES EIGHT, SIX, AND FOUR. 
          THE FOUR YEAR OLD IS PLAYING. OH, SORRY, I COULD YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? I COULD TELL THEM WHAT'S GOING ON. WELL GO AHEAD. SO THIS IS MY HOME AND THAT'S GOING TO THAT'S MY SON THAT'S GOING TO BE RUNNING OUT. WE HAVE THREE KIDS THAT LIVE TO THE RIGHT OF US THREE BOYS, EIGHT, SIX AND FOUR AND THEIR PARENTS. THIS IS A VERY BIG SAFETY CONCERN BECAUSE NOT ONLY THEIR RIGHT BY THE STOP SIGN THAT GETS BLOWN ALL THE TIME. SO THEY HAVE TAUGHT THEIR BOYS THAT THEY NEED TO STAY IN THE DRIVEWAY, BUT AS MR. MERLINO SAID, IS THEIR KIDS. SO THEIR FOUR YEAR OLD'S OUT PLAYING ON HIS BIKE AND SCOOTER. SO YOU CAN SEE BY THE VIDEO AND YOU'LL HEAR THE NOISE. OUR KIDS HAVE ALSO BEEN TRAINED, SO MY SON IS LETTING HIM KNOW TO STAY AWAY 
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FROM THE STREET. SO I DON'T LIVE FAR FROM ROCHELLE. I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT STOP SIGN AND I WILL BE OUT, YOU KNOW, WORKING IN MY YARD AND SEE PEOPLE JUST BLOW RIGHT THROUGH THAT STOP SIGN LIKE AS IF IT'S NOT THERE. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER THE TIME OF DAY, RIGHT? IT COULD BE RUSH HOUR, IT COULD BE ANY TIME DURING THE DAY. SO I'LL HIT PLAY. 
          HOPEFULLY WE HAVE THE SOUND AND YOU COULD HEAR IT. THIS CORVETTE COMING. I'M NOT HEARING THE SOUND THOUGH. ALL RIGHT. SO THE SOUND DIDN'T REALLY COME OUT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NOT WORKING, BUT YOU COULD HEAR THIS CAR SCREECH FROM WELL, AND I IF YOU DON'T MIND, FRANK, I'D LIKE TO INTERRUPT YOU. THE, THE I'VE HEARD THIS VIDEO MANY TIMES AND YOU'RE RIGHT. THE BEST PART IS THE SOUND. BECAUSE I THINK IF I'M RIGHT, HE LIVES JUST DOWN THE STREET HERE. SO THE CORVETTE DOES NOT LIVE IN THE DEVELOPMENT THEY WERE VISITING. 
          THEY WERE A NEPHEW OF SOMEBODY'S. WAS HE TURNING INTO. HE WAS TURNING IN DOWN HERE WASN'T HE? NO, HE WAS GOING STRAIGHT AND THEN HE MAY HAVE MADE A LEFT AT THE END. I DON'T KNOW IF HE DID THAT OR NOT, BUT IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE IT SOUNDED. I HAPPEN TO HAVE HEARD CORVETTES MANY TIMES, AND IT'S HE'S GOING REALLY FAST. HE'S WINDING IT OUT AND YOU DON'T. 
          BUT THEN HE GETS HERE AND HE'S GETTING READY TO TURN INTO WHEREVER HE'S TURNING AND HE SLOWS DOWN. SO THAT'S WHY THE SOUND IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS VIDEO. I'M SORRY WE CAN'T GET IT ON THE SCREEN BECAUSE IT'S SIGNIFICANT. YEAH. YOU ACTUALLY HEAR THE TIRES SCREECH AND THEN HIM PULL FORWARD AND THEN YOU HEAR ROCHELLE'S SON ZANDER ACTUALLY TELL THE YOUNGER BOY TO STAY AWAY FROM THE STREET. SO APPARENTLY WE HAVE REAL RESPONSIBLE CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT NOT SUCH RESPONSIBLE ADULTS. RIGHT. OKAY. 
          CAN WE SEE IF WE CAN GET THE OTHER VIDEO GOING? SURE. SO AND REALLY QUICK ON THAT CORVETTE, JUST I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE. THE HOME, THE HOME THAT THE CORVETTE WAS AT WAS ON THE BACKSIDE OF WINDCREST BECAUSE THEY WERE HAVING A GRADUATION PARTY. SO OUR NEIGHBOR LET US KNOW THAT THIS IS A RELATIVE. IT WAS A NEW GIFT. SO HE INTENTIONALLY HAD, BECAUSE MY HUSBAND FOLLOWED TO FIND OUT WHERE THE CAR WAS, HE INTENTIONALLY WENT ON A JOYRIDE AROUND THAT LOOP, AND THAT'S WHY HE MAKES A LEFT AT THE STOP SIGN, BECAUSE HE'S HEADED BACK TO THE PARTY. SO HE HAD SOMEBODY IN THE CAR AND I BELIEVE GRANTED, WELL, THANKFULLY NEVER KNOW. BUT HAD MY SON NOT BEEN THERE WITH HIS HANDS, HE MAY NOT HAVE SLOWED DOWN. AND LITTLE TY WAS IN THAT DRIVEWAY. AND THERE'S A HEIGHT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BIGGER KID AND A LITTLE GUY THAT HE MAY NOT HAVE SEEN. LIKE I SAID, IF YOU IF YOU HEARD THE SOUND IN THE VIDEO, YOU'D SEE A REAL RESPONSIBLE 12 YEAR OLD AND AN IRRESPONSIBLE 18 YEAR OLD DRIVING THAT CORVETTE. SO IT'S DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY AN ISSUE. 
          SO THE SECOND VIDEO TO CUE THIS UP, THIS IS ON WINDING CREEK, WHICH IS THE ROAD THAT I SPOKE OF EARLIER, WHICH IS A MAJOR ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE COMMUNITY. WE DO HAVE A STOP SIGN HERE AT ONE POINT, WHICH IS PROBABLY A LITTLE FURTHER FROM THE MIDDLE OF OF THAT ROAD. 
          THE NEXT SECTION ISN'T QUITE AS LONG UNTIL YOU GET TO WHEELER WHEELER'S WAY, BUT THIS PART IS EXTREMELY LONG. IT'S PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY A HALF A MILE OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT, BUT THEY GET UP TO A PRETTY GOOD SPEED AND YOU'LL WATCH ON THIS VIDEO HOW THEY ACTUALLY IGNORE THE STOP SIGN. I GUESS IT'S OPTIONAL TO THEM, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY NEED TO STOP AT. SO HERE WE GO. YOU SEE HOW FAST THAT CAR IS GOING ALREADY. AND THAT WAS A STOP SIGN YOU JUST WENT THROUGH. RIGHT. SO NOW THE OTHER DIRECTION THEY GO THROUGH IT AGAIN. SO YOU KNOW I GET ROLLING STOP SIGNS. YOU CAN SEE NO ONE'S COMING RIGHT. AT LEAST SOME OF THE PEOPLE ARE SLOWING DOWN. BUT I HAVE ABOUT A DOZEN OF THESE VIDEOS WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUST CROSSING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS THROUGH THE STOP SIGN WITHOUT A CARE IN THE WORLD. LIKE I SAID, WE THINK THEY'RE OPTIONAL. MAYBE WE'VE RENAMED THEM AS OPTIONAL, RIGHT? THEY DON'T ACTUALLY STOP ANYMORE, RIGHT? SO IT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN. THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON WINDING CREEK IS REALLY THE MAIN FOCUS, RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS. WINDCREST IS ALSO A PROBLEM, RIGHT? WINDCREST IS A BIG LOOP. YOU GUYS WERE OUT THERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND YOU SAW WINDCREST DRIVE. IT'S A BIG LOOP THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND. THERE'S TWO STRETCHES THAT ARE FAIRLY LONG, SO THOSE ARE OUR MAIN CONCERNS. WE GOT DEEP DITCHES HERE. THESE ARE BAR DITCHES. THEY'RE NOT CORRECT. THEY'RE NOT CURB AND GUTTER. SO IF YOU WANT TO WALK, GO FOR A WALK. AT NIGHT YOU WALK ON THE STREET AND IT'S IT IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DEAL WITH. ABSOLUTELY. I'D APPRECIATE ANYTHING THE COURT COULD DO TO HELP US, HONESTLY. YOU KNOW, SAFETY FIRST. RIGHT. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE A REAL TRAGEDY IF SOMEONE RIDES THAT BIKE OFF THEIR DRIVEWAY AND IS HIT BY A CAR. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANT TO SEE THAT OR IN THE COUNTY. IT'S TRAGIC. SO I THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND CONSIDERATION. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP, COMMISSIONER. 
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YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU FRANK. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION. A LOT OF IT IS JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO MAYBE ARE IN HERE OR LISTENING AND DIDN'T HEAR OUR LAST TIME, WE BROUGHT THIS UP AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND VOTED ON IT. THIS IS A PROCEDURE THAT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED BY ROCKWALL COUNTY FOR HOA'S THAT MAY COME TO US WITH PRIVATE ROADS, WITH A SIMILAR WITH SIMILAR SITUATIONS HAPPENING. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, FOR COUNTY, FOR COUNTY ROADS, WHEN THERE'S COUNTY, THIS IS A COUNTY ROAD HERE. IT WAS PRIVATE ROAD. I THINK IT ACTUALLY BE DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S COUNTY ROAD. YEAH. OKAY. BUT YES, IT'S A PROCEDURE WE ESTABLISHED. AND AGAIN, WHY WE CHOSE 60%. I DON'T KNOW. I, I WENT TO JOHN AND WE DISCUSSED THIS. I SAID, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAME UP WITH 60%. AND I THINK YOUR RESPONSE WAS, NO, NO, NO, BUT WE DID. YOU AND I DID. WE DID. SO WE COULD TAKE THE BLAME FOR IT. BUT WE GOT 58%. 
          AND AGAIN, EVERY EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IS DIFFERENT. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A BUNCH OF KIDS. AND BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE STREETS, AS THEY POINTED OUT, IT'S WHERE PEOPLE DRIVE FAST AND WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO PROTECT THEM. AND I DON'T WANT TO WAX PHILOSOPHICAL, BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE BUILD BIG, WIDE, STRAIGHT STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. IT JUST IT IS WHAT HAPPENS. PEOPLE JUST SPEED, YOU KNOW, IT'S HUMAN NATURE. YOU HAVE THE SPEED STUDY FROM ALEXANDER RANCH, LIKE THE FIRST HALF, 59 MILES AN HOUR. OH, ON A RESIDENTIAL ROAD. I MEAN, THAT'S INSANITY BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST BIG, HUGE, STRAIGHT, WIDE ROADS. SO I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, I, I FEEL, I MEAN, IRREGARDLESS OF SIDEWALKS, THE BIG STRAIGHT, WIDE ROADS IS WHAT CAUSES PEOPLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE TO SPEED. RIGHT. AND THE DITCHES DON'T HELP BECAUSE YOU JUST REALLY WILL HAVE TO FALL INTO A FALL DOWN IF YOU TRY TO JUMP OFF. AND SO THEN THE, THE IDEA IS, IS WHAT DO YOU DO? DO YOU START THEN SKINNYING THE STREETS TO GET PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN? DO YOU DO BARRIERS OR DO YOU JUST GO THE ROUTE THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, WHICH IS THE SPEED HUMPS? AND SO WHEN WE WROTE THE POLICY, ONE OF THE BIGGEST DIFFERENTIATORS WE MADE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COULDN'T BE ANY SORT OF CONNECTOR ROADS. THIS HAD TO BE INTERIOR ROADS. THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. SO WE'RE NOT OPENING OURSELVES UP FOR JUST REQUEST AFTER REQUEST AFTER REQUEST. I ONLY HAVE ONE IN MY ENTIRE PRECINCT. AND HOW MANY COUNTY ROADS DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR PRECINCT, MADAM? HAVE ANY? I'M KIDDING CARE BECAUSE I'M A KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW, SO, SO I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE A PROLIFERATION OF THESE. AND AND I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO FOCUS IN ON WHERE WE KNOW THESE HAZARDS ARE. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REQUEST OUR COUNTY ENGINEER TO PROCEED WITH THE WARRANT STUDY FOR THE INSTALLATION OF SPEED HUMPS IN THE HIGH POINT LAKE ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GALLINA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. IT PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. 
          [3. Discuss/Act on the Rockwall County Disaster Documentation Policy, and all related issues; (Judge New – Emergency Management Coordinator)]
THANK YOU ALL. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM THREE. DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE ROCKWALL COUNTY DISASTER DOCUMENTATION POLICY AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COORDINATOR AUSTIN. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT. I THINK YOU'VE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE POTENTIAL POLICY. SO BUT JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY FOR EVERYONE ELSE. THIS WOULD BE A POLICY THAT WOULD BE ENACTED WHEN THE JUDGE DECLARES A DISASTER DECLARATION OUTLINING THE EXPECTATIONS FOR DOCUMENTATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS OF WHAT DO THEY NEED TO DO AT THAT TIME? AND AGAIN, THIS IS A DOCUMENTATION POLICY IS WHAT WE'RE CODIFYING HERE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR COORDINATOR RAWSON? NO. THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ROCKWALL COUNTY DISASTER DOCUMENTATION POLICY AS PRESENTED. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAC. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THAT 
          [4. Discuss/Act on acceptance of gifts from the Friends of the Library in the aggregate amount of $27,500, and from the Friday Study Club in the amount of $750.00, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty – County Librarian)]
BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR. DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE ACCEPTANCE OF GIFTS FROM FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY AND THE AGGREGATE AMOUNT OF 27,500 AND FROM THE FRIDAY STUDY CLUB IN THE AMOUNT OF $750 AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LICHTY, THANK YOU, JUDGE, AGAIN, 
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THIS IS VERY SELF-EXPLANATORY. WE JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCEDURES OF ACCEPTING IT. SO UNLESS ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE GIFTS FROM THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY AND THE AGGREGATE AMOUNT OF 27,500, AND FROM THE FRIDAY STUDY CLUB IN THE AMOUNT OF $750. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. 
          ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY. I CAN'T HELP MYSELF. NO, THIS IS THE TIME FOR FURTHER COMMENTS. I GOT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THESE GROUPS. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO SERVE AS LIAISON LIAISON TO THE LIBRARY. AND THE MORE I WORK WITH THEM, THE MORE IMPRESSED I AM. AND THESE GROUPS, LIKE THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY. ARE, AND THE FRIDAY STUDY CLUB AND OTHERS ARE SO COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS LIBRARY A SUCCESS. AND THEY DO SO MUCH. THEY HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS. SO JUST AS A COMMISSIONERS COURT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A HUGE THANK YOU TO THEM FOR WHAT THEY DO. THANK YOU. AND I SECOND THAT, AND I WILL SAY THAT THEY JUST RECENTLY HAD AN INDUCTION OF NEW OFFICERS, AND THERE ARE SOME REALLY THERE WAS GREAT LEADERS THAT WERE ROLLING OFF AND SOME GREAT LEADERS THAT ARE COMING ON TO THAT. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THEM. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND, IF YOU WILL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE, THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. THIS TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE. DISCUSS AND 
          [5. Discuss/Act on approving an Interlocal Agreement with the City of Fate to provide engineering, right-of-way acquisition, utility relocations, inspections, and construction of S. Ben Payne Road as a 4-lane divided roadway between I-30 and SH 66, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]
ACT ON, EXCUSE ME, APPROVING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF FATE TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, UTILITY RELOCATIONS, INSPECTIONS AND CONSTRUCTION OF SOUTH BEND PAIN ROAD AS A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY BETWEEN I-30 AND SH 66 AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS A GREAT DAY. SOUTH BEND PAIN IS IN TRIP 21. I THINK THAT THIS COURT DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO, SAYING WE ARE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BUILD ROADS. THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR FOCUS. SO TO REMIND THE COURT WE DID APPROVE THIS. 10.319319 WHEN WE PASSED OUR RESOLUTIONS FOR OUR FIRST ISSUANCE OF TRIP 21, WHAT WE DID IS WE MOVED A BUNCH OF MONEY AROUND PRECINCT FOUR TO GET THERE. WE TRANSFERRED $250,000 OFF FM 35. WE TRANSFERRED $3.9 MILLION OFF 548 AND $1.8 MILLION OFF. 551 THE REASON IS, IS THAT WE WERE IN A 10% RIGHT OF WAY PROGRAM WITH TEXDOT. THE TEXDOT ENDED, SO WE WERE. WE THEN TOOK THOSE FUNDS AND MOVED THEM. WE TOOK 22.2.5 MILLION FROM MY STRATEGIC FUNDING. WE TOOK 1.75, WHICH WAS WHAT WAS IN TRIP 21, AND THEN WE TOOK $61,692 OFF OF TRIP OH EIGHT, WHICH WAS THE LEFTOVER AFTER WE FUNDED EDWARDS ROAD. SO, SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE MONEY TO GET HERE. IT WAS IN ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTATION FOR IT. AND SO NOW LET'S GET TO THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. THIS DOCUMENT HAS BEEN ALL KINDS OF FUN. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WRITE IT, BRENDA, FOR WHAT, FOUR MONTHS? ROUGHLY? OKAY, WE'LL GIVE IT 90 DAYS. LET'S BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY. AND SO FINALLY, LAST WEEK, LAUREN AND I WORKED DILIGENTLY TO GET TO THE DRAFT THAT ENDED UP ON YOUR DESKS THIS MORNING. THIS DRAFT WAS WRITTEN YESTERDAY. THAT'S WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR EMAILS BACK AND FORTH. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE IN ALL OF THE ISSUES WITH THE CITY OF FATE WITH MY CONTRACT LAWYER, LAUREN LICHTY, WITH DANIEL RAY, AND WITH ITS AS WE AS WE STARTED MAKING THIS DOCUMENT MOVE FORWARD, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A GREAT DOCUMENT. SO I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THE MECHANISM TO THE COURT OF HOW THIS DOCUMENT READS. WE WOULD BASICALLY GIVE FATE $10.3 MILLION FOR THEM TO PUT INTO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT. I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM JOHN POLSTER OF WHY THAT'S ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE COUNTY TO DO IT THAT WAY. IT GETS US OFF OF ARBITRAGE, GET SOME OF THAT MONEY SPENT, BUT IT'S REIMBURSED 6040. SO THEY DO HAVE TO CLEAR ALL THE INVOICES THROUGH US, AND IT'S REIMBURSED UNTIL WE SPEND OUR $10.3 MILLION. SO WE DO HAVE CAVEATS IN HERE THAT THEY DON'T JUST GET TO TAKE OUR 10.3 AND GO SPEND IT. THE GOAL IS TO BUILD SOUTH BEND, PAYNE ROAD. IF FOR SOME REASON THE CITY ABANDONS THE PROJECT AND THEY SAY, WE CAN'T BUILD SOUTH BEND PAYNE, THERE ARE COVENANTS THAT WE CAN GRAB WHAT MONEY HASN'T BEEN SPENT BACK INTO THE COUNTY, SO IT ISN'T THEIR MONEY. THAT'S ONLY THE CITY'S MONEY TO BUILD SOUTH BEND, PAYNE ROAD, WHICH IS A HUGE ROAD. I WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT 
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THAT THERE'S ABOUT TO BE AN OVERPASS BUILT AND BUILDING THIS ROAD. IT WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE US FROM 276 TO 552 IN THE FUTURE. AS A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROAD. IT'S A HUGE STEP IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO BE ABLE TO MOVE PEOPLE NORTH AND SOUTH. I KNOW MOST OF OUR ISSUES ARE TRYING TO MOVE EAST AND WEST, BUT WE'VE GOT TO MOVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND SO SO THIS IS ABSOLUTELY HUGE. A HUGE BLOCK OF THE POPULATION LIVES IN WOOD CREEK. THIS WOULD GIVE WOOD CREEK A BASICALLY A FOUR LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO INTERSTATE 30 THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE 551 OR STATE HIGHWAY 66. SO THIS IS HUGE FOR FATE. IT'S HUGE FOR THE COUNTY. IT'S IN TRIP 21, IT IS FUNDED. AND WE FINALLY HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT I THINK WORKS BEST FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. AND THAT'S MY SUMMARY. AND THE CITY MANAGER, MAYOR OF FATE, ARE HERE. THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT OF A ROAD. THIS IS WONDERFUL. MAYOR GREENBURG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING OR ARE YOU JUST HERE FOR THE CHECK? THAT WAS GREAT. THANK YOU. I LIKE IT. YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE SHOULD HAVE A BIG ONE MADE FOR WORKING WITH US BECAUSE IT IS, AS YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING, YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. AND THEN WHEN YOU START TO DO IT, YOU RUN INTO ALL KINDS OF ISSUES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING GOOD PARTNERS. WE APPRECIATE THAT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY SO INCLINED. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AS PRESENTED TO US TODAY WITH THE CITY OF FATE TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, UTILITY RELOCATIONS, INSPECTIONS AND CONSTRUCTION OF SOUTH BEND, PAYNE ROAD AS A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY BETWEEN INTERSTATE 30 AND STATE HIGHWAY 66. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. 
          [6. Discuss/Act on reviewing bids and selecting a firm for the Crenshaw Road East project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy – County Auditor)]
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM SIX. 
          DISCUSS AND ACT ON REVIEWING BIDS AND SELECTING A FIRM FOR THE CRENSHAW ROAD EAST PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY. YES, I'M GOING TO HAVE BRENDA COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY BIG DAY FOR PRECINCT FOUR. THIS ROAD STARTED BEFORE. I ALWAYS SAY THE THREE OF US. IT'S KIND OF FUNNY BECAUSE I HAVE IRISH TWINS AND I ALWAYS CALL THEM MY BOYS. AND THEN LUKE AND MY WIFE'S LIKE, WE HAVE THREE BOYS. 
          SO BUT WE HAD THESE TWO LITTLE KIDS FOR FIVE YEARS BEFORE WE HAD BEFORE WE HAD LUKE. AND I'M LIKE, THERE ARE BOYS. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR BABY AND NOW THEY'RE 23 AND THEN 117. BUT SO THIS STARTED BEFORE THE THREE OF US GOT ON COURT. SO WELL, BEFORE BOBBY AND LAUREN GOT ON COURT, WE HAD TO DIVIDE THIS INTO TWO PROJECTS INTO TWO PHASES BECAUSE THEY BUILT THE SCHOOL, THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN ISSUES, REBUILDING THE REROUTING THE ROAD, GETTING RIGHT OF WAY, BOUGHT, GETTING ALL OF THAT SECURE, GETTING IT REDESIGNED, THEN FINDING MORE MONEY. THANK YOU. COURT ON THE LAST TRIP, 21 FIRST ISSUANCE, WE TOOK $4.5 MILLION OF OLD ROAD BOND MONEY AND PUT IT ONTO THIS ROAD. SO I APPRECIATE THAT EFFORT. AND FINALLY, WE'RE AT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS ROAD, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. I MEAN, WE HAVE KIDS GOING TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON TWO HOUR BUS RIDES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET ACROSS THIS ROAD. 
          THIS IS A MAJOR CONNECTOR FOR FOR ROYSE CITY. SO ANYWAYS, I'M SUPER EXCITED. SO WITH THAT, BRENDA, CAN YOU GIVE US THE RUNDOWN? YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. JUDGE. WE OPENED BIDS FOR THIS PROJECT ON MAY 1ST, 2026. WE HAD 14 QUALIFIED RESPONDENTS. THE BIDS RANGED FROM 7.7 MILLION TO 10.1 MILLION. WE ALSO CONSIDERED A CALENDAR DAY SCHEDULE FROM THE RESPONDENTS. THEY HAD TO GIVE US THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD TAKE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. THOSE RANGED FROM 195 DAYS TO 597 DAYS. WHEN WE LOOKED AT AND ANALYZED ALL 14 BIDS, WE CAME BACK WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE AWARD THIS TO THE LOW BID, WHICH WAS TIZIO AT $7.7 MILLION AND 300 DAYS. SO WE WOULD LIKE YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THE AWARD. THEN WE WILL GET BACK WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND GET THE CONTRACT TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. AND WHAT DID WE BUDGET? WHAT DID WE THINK THIS CONSTRUCTION WAS GOING TO COST? THE ENGINEER'S ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS 10.2. AWESOME. AND THAT'S WHAT WE FUNDED WITH TRIP 21, CORRECT? WE FUNDED IT AT 10.2. QUESTIONS. NOT A QUESTION BUT A COMMENT. THANKS FOR YOUR 
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HARD WORK. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STACY, THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS. AND I KNOW THIS, THAT AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE YEAR AND A HALF, BOBBY AND I HAVE BEEN ON THE COURT. I KNOW AND YOU WERE BEFORE US. THIS IS WHAT OUR PEOPLE WANT. THEY WANT ROADS. THEY WANT US TO FIX THE PROBLEMS AND FIX THE BAD SITUATION WE'VE GOT INTO. SO HATS OFF TO YOU, TO PRECINCT FOUR. IT'S A BIG DAY FOR PRECINCT FOUR. I'M GLAD WE GET ALL HIS STUFF OFF THE AGENDA. SO NOW WE CAN START WORKING ON MINE. SO EDWARDS ROAD, EDWARDS ROAD, EDWARDS ROAD. OKAY, THANKS. ALL RIGHT. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY SO INCLINED. DOES THE MOTION NEED TO INCLUDE THE NAME OF THE COMPANY I'M ASSUMING FOR THE AWARD? YES, YES. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AWARD TIZIO PAVING COMPANY FOR THE CONTRACT TO BUILD CRENSHAW ROAD EAST. AND THE AMOUNT OF $7,751,231.05. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. AND I WILL HAPPILY SECOND THAT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. 
          THANKFUL. THANKFUL. THANK YOU. ONE DONE. THANK YOU. BRENDA. THANK YOU. THAT IS THE ONE THAT 
          [7. Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)]
ALMOST HAD ME FLYING TO ALASKA. ALL RIGHT. THIS TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. 
          DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE COURTHOUSE, COURTROOM ADDITIONS, THIRD FLOOR PROJECT, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER GALLINA. OKAY, SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY MUCH OF AN UPDATE TODAY, REALLY. WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF THE AUDIT TO CLOSE THIS THING OUT. THEY JUST ASKED FOR MORE DOCUMENTATION, WHICH HE PROVIDED LAST WEEK. AND SO IT FOR SOME REASON, IT SEEMS TO BE GOING A BIT SLOWER THAN COMMISSIONER STACY'S AUDIT WENT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE TIME OF YEAR OR WHAT IT IS, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE TAKING THEM A BIT LONGER TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. AND WE'RE JUST IN A WAITING GAME. I KNOW WHEN YOU ASKED THE OUTSIDE AUDIT FIRM TO HURRY UP, THAT IS THEIR CUE TO SLOW DOWN. YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT ALONE. 
          YEAH. AND HOPE FOR THE BEST. YES, SIR. YEAH. THAT'S THE ONLY UPDATE JUST IN PROCESS WITH AUDIT. NOTHING ELSE. OUTSTANDING ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE NO 
          [8. Discuss/Act on the Sheriff’s remodel project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)]
ACTION NEEDED. WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY AND SAL WILL GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE. WHAT'S GREAT IS THAT AFTER HAVING LIKE 15 PCOS ON COURT, THERE ARE NONE. THIS COURT. YEP. GOT A HANDLE ON IT. WE'RE WE'RE REIGNING IN THE CHANGES A LITTLE BIT. SO HOPEFULLY WHEN WE DO HAVE PCOS, WE'RE GOING TO CONDENSE, CONDENSE THEM DOWN TO, TO BE KIND OF SHORTER AND JUST PRESENT THEM ALL AT ONCE INSTEAD OF 8 OR 9 AT ONE TIME. 
          HELP HELPS AVOID ANY CONFUSION. THE BIGGEST UPDATE WITH CONSTRUCTION WE'RE AT, WE NOW HAVE DISPATCH IN THEIR TEMPORARY HOME, WHILE THEIR NEW SPACE IS NOW BEING DEMOLISHED AND RENOVATED FOR FOR THE NEW EQUIPMENT AND NEW CONSOLES TO GO INTO. SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT WE'VE HAD FROM THE LAST COURT TO NOW. OTHER THAN THAT, FINISHES ARE GOING IN. THERE'S SOME EQUIPMENT THAT'S STARTING TO SHOW UP ON SITE, SUCH AS THE THE HOOD FOR EVIDENCE PROCESSING. OUR LARGEST NEXT HURDLE IS TO MOVE EVIDENCE INTO THEIR NEW PERMANENT HOME, WHICH WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR BEGINNING OF NEXT MONTH. THAT IS PROBABLY THE NEXT LARGEST HURDLE. ONCE WE GET PAST THAT, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF JUST A FINISH OUT PROJECT AT THAT POINT. THAT'S THE LARGEST HURDLE WE HAVE, I THINK REMAINING. BUT YEAH, AGAIN, SHOULD BE HAPPENING SOMETIME FIRST WEEK OR TWO OF NEXT MONTH. 
          QUESTIONS FOR SAL. AND WE WILL BE IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING EVIDENCE WHEN WE MEET NEXT TIME IN COURT IF EVERYTHING'S ON SCHEDULE. SO IT'LL BE A MINUTE BEFORE THERE'S A REAL SUBSTANTIAL UPDATE BECAUSE ALL EYES ARE ON EVIDENCE AND PROCURING FURNITURE, AND ABOUT HOW MANY DAYS FOR EVIDENCE, THOUGH I BELIEVE IT'S A THREE DAY MOVE OF ACTUALLY MOVING FROM THEIR CURRENT EVIDENCE STORAGE TO THEIR NEW EVIDENCE STORAGE. BUT THAT'S JUST MOVING THE ACTUAL. YEAH, THE ACTUAL ITEMS. GOT IT. YEAH. GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. ALL 
          [9. Discuss/Act on approving the New Customer Information Form from Security Paper Proofs including the terms and conditions, and authorize the County Judge to sign the form, and all related issues; (Judge New – County Clerk)]
RIGHT. THANK YOU SAL. THAT'LL TAKE US TO AGENDA ITEM NINE. DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE NEW CUSTOMER INFORMATION FORM FROM SECURITY PAPER PROOFS, INCLUDING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN THE FORM AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. OUR COUNTY CLERK IS AWAY AT TRAINING. ESSENTIALLY, WE'VE GOT A NEW VENDOR THAT WE'RE USING, WHICH REQUIRES OUR CLERK TO FILL OUT DOCUMENTATION TO SEND IN. I BELIEVE THIS HAS CLEARED LEGAL. SO THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZING ME TO SIGN THE NEW THE NEW FORM FOR THE NEW VENDOR. 
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YEP. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE NEW CUSTOMER INFORMATION FORM FROM THE SECURITY PAPER PROOFS, INCLUDING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, AND AUTHORIZE OUR COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN THE FORM. ALL RIGHT. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACEY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. THAT TAKES US TO 
          [10. Discuss/Act on updates of the Rockwall County Master Thoroughfare Plan, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty – County Engineer)]
AGENDA ITEM TEN. DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE UPDATES OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LICHTY THANK YOU, JUDGE. I HAVE ERICA BRIDGES, OUR COUNTY ENGINEER, WHO WILL GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE ON THIS. YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE'S REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT TO UPDATE THIS WEEK. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PHASE IS NOW CLOSED FOR THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN. SO F AND I IS WORKING ON COMPILING THE DATA, AND WE'RE SCHEDULING A MEETING FOR NEXT MONTH TO HAVE A BETTER UPDATE ON WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THEIR ANALYSIS. WE DID HAVE ONE MEETING LAST WEEK WITH COMMISSIONER LICHTY AND STACY REGARDING THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT FREESE AND NICHOLS HAD PRESENTED LAST MONTH. SO, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS KIND OF PRODUCTIVE AND THEY SHOULD BE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION BACK TO US. SO RIGHT NOW, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SHARE ON THIS ONE. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ THE ARTICLE WE RECEIVED PROBABLY A WEEK AGO FROM NACO IN REGARDS TO SOME, I GUESS, NATIONAL BILLS THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE ARE ARE BEING ENFORCED FROM FOR, FOR COUNTIES IN REGARDS TO THE, THE UPCOMING 2030 CENSUS. AND THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING TO PUT THAT TOGETHER AND LOOKING AT VARIOUS POCKETS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MISSED, NOT, NOT READ PROPERLY. 
          YEAH. IN THE LAST IN THE LAST CENSUS. AND TO BE TO BE FULLY FAIR, MINE WAS ALL OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY. OH. SO I, I DOUBTED THE NUMBERS THAT THEY HAD FOR JOSEPHINE AND QUINLAN AND, AND SOME OF THE ROYSE CITY GROWTH IN COLLIN COUNTY AREA IN HUNT. AND SO I, I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THEIR TRAFFIC ZONES. AND SO SINCE WE HAVE LACEY ROGERS ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE, I JUST ASKED THEM TO GO MEET WITH HER AND MAKE SURE SHE AGREES WITH WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING AS FAR AS NEW BUILDS AND THINGS AND SOME OF THOSE ZONES, BECAUSE WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS THAT INFLUX FROM WHAT IS OUR 276 TRAFFIC REALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE PLANNING FOR? AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT COLLIN COUNTY COMING DOWN TO 30 LOOK LIKE? AND HOW CREATIVE CAN WE GET OTHER THAN JUST BUILDING 1777? YOU KNOW, WHAT TRAFFIC DO WE PREDICT TO BE ON? 1130, 38 AND 1139? AND THEN DOES ANY OF THAT MODEL TO BLEED OVER INTO PRECINCT ONE ON SOME OF THOSE SMALLER COUNTY ROADS AS THAT POPULATION BUMPS UP? AND THAT'S WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM. AND I WANT THAT MODELING TO BE ACCURATE SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S COMING IN. SO TO BE FAIR, THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THE DISCUSSION I HAD WITH I BEAT IT UP ENOUGH THAT THEY JUST SAID, WE'LL COME BACK. GOOD DEAL. ERICA, YOU MAY WANT TO JUST LOOK AT THAT NACO AND JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THAT NEEDS IF THERE IS ANY COMMUNICATIONS TO BREEZY NICHOLS. ONE OTHER THING THAT I. JUST A NOTE TO OUR LEGAL TEAM. WE NEED TO HEAR BACK ON THE APPORTIONMENT DISCUSSION WE HAD. I DON'T THINK YOU WERE A PART OF THAT, BUT I KNOW DANIEL WAS. 
          AND ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS FOR DOING THIS MASTER THOROUGHFARE UPDATE IS TO GET A GOOD APPORTIONMENT PROCEDURE IN PLACE. SO WE JUST NEED TO HEAR BACK ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU ERICA. APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. THAT TAKES US TO 
          [11. Discuss/Act on variance requests to Section 5.2.1 - Minimum Right-of-Way Dedication and Section 5.4.8 - Building Setbacks of the Rockwall County Subdivision and Land Development Regulations for a proposed commercial development located at 11160 South State Highway 205, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty – County Engineer)]
AGENDA ITEM 11. DISCUSS AND ACT ON VARIANCE REQUESTS TO SECTION 5.2.1 MINIMUM RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AND SECTION 5.4.8 BUILDING SETBACKS OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY SUBDIVISION AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR A PROPOSED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 11160 SOUTH STATE HIGHWAY 205 AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LICHTY THANK YOU. JUDGE, THIS IS A PROJECT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, AND THE DEVELOPER DEVELOPERS COUNCILS HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN A MINUTE, JUDGE, BUT THE DEVELOPER HAS ASKED US TO GRANT A VARIANCE. AND I'M GOING TO LET. ERICA YOU'RE PREPARED TO GO INTO THE DETAILS ON THIS. 
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IT'S KIND OF A COMPLICATED ISSUE BECAUSE WE ARE OLD MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WHICH WE HAVE, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN 2017 OR 18, I FORGET WHICH. IT'S CONFUSING, BUT IT SHOWS THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THIS SITE REQUIRING A 300 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE IT'S FOR A FREEWAY AND WITHOUT FREEWAY WAS. WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE MAP. WAS THE OUTER LOOP GOING RIGHT INTO THIS ROAD, WHICH WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A BIGGER RIGHT OF WAY? AS YOU KNOW, THE OUTER LOOP HAS UP TO 500 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. SO IT SHOWS THAT. AND WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF REDOING OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN. AND WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE GUTS OF THE WHOLE OUTER LOOP DISCUSSION, EVERYBODY REMEMBERS THAT IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE ENGINEERING STUDY ON THE OUTER LOOP, THAT THEY'VE DEVELOPED THREE TENTATIVE MODELS FOR WHERE IT WILL GO. BY ALL APPEARANCES. NONE OF NONE OF THOSE WOULD REQUIRE THIS FREEWAY ZONING, BUT YET WE STILL HAVE A REQUIREMENT IN OUR MASTER CURRENT MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR 300 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. AND WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF UPDATING OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, AND WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF TRYING TO GET A MEMO. YOU SIGNED WITH THE RTC TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT'S ALL GOING TO GO, BUT THE DEVELOPER, DUE TO SOME OF THEIR EXIGENCIES, HAS ASKED US TO CONSIDER PROCEEDING WITH A VARIANCE AS, AS I EXPLAINED, THERE'S SOME REASON THAT MAKES THAT PRETTY DICEY RIGHT NOW. BUT I'VE ASKED THEY'VE ASKED TO FOR US TO CONSIDER IT. AND THEIR ATTORNEY, CRAIG ALBERT, A LONG TIME DEAR FRIEND OF MINE FROM DALLAS, WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT AND ADDRESS THE COURT ON IT. AND THEN MAYBE AFTER THAT. ERICA. OR DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK FIRST? WELL, SORRY. HEY, I'M ALREADY QUEUED UP TO SPEAK, SO WHY DON'T I GO AHEAD AND JUST FRAME IT FOR Y'ALL? ALTHOUGH COMMISSIONER LICHTY ALREADY DID A GREAT JOB OF THAT. AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. ALBERT. OKAY, SO LET ME HOP RIGHT INTO IT. THERE'S TWO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED. ONE OF THEM IS TO THE MINIMUM RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION, SECTION 5.2.1. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS FOR BUILDING SETBACKS. SECTION 5.4.8. AND I WILL TAKE THOSE ONE BY ONE. SO THIS SORRY, THIS IS A MORE ZOOMED IN LOOK AT THAT RIGHT OF WAY THAT THAT LAST SLIDE HAD THE OVERALL SORRY, THIS HAD THE OVERALL SITE. THIS IS PROPOSED TO BE A GAS STATION AT THIS CORNER OF 205 AND 548. AND AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A SMALL SLIVER. I APOLOGIZE. MY FINGER HIT THAT. IT'S KIND OF A SMALL SLIVER ON THAT CORNER. AND SO TXDOT HAS ALREADY GONE IN AND PURCHASED THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WILL BE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND. 548 IN THE FUTURE. BUT IN TRYING TO MEET THE LETTER AND VERSE OF OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY WAS BEING REQUESTED. SO THIS THIS SHOWS YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE ISSUE. FOR A FREEWAY CATEGORY. CATEGORY LIKE THE OUTER LOOP, A 300 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY WAS BEING REQUESTED OR IS IDENTIFIED AS BEING NEEDED. AND THAT IS TYPICALLY TAKEN, MEASURED ON EACH SIDE FROM THE CENTER LINE. SO IT WOULD BE 150FT FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE EXISTING ROAD INTO THE PROPERTY. AS AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, TXDOT HAS ALREADY PURCHASED A PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY HERE AND THAT DARK BLACK LINE. I WISH I HAD A POINTER FOR Y'ALL, BUT THAT DARK BLACK LINE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD IS THAT THAT NEW RIGHT OF WAY LINE. SO WHERE YOU SEE THE 150 FOOT OF MEASURED, THAT WOULD SHOW YOU THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY, THAT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY AN ADDITIONAL 40FT OF THE PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, IT IS A VERY NARROW STRIP OF, OF A SMALL PIECE ON THAT CORNER. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE AN ADDITIONAL 40FT WOULD BE CUMBERSOME ON, ON THIS SITE BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT PARKING OR THEIR FUEL PUMPS OR ANYTHING IN THAT AREA. GOING BACK ONE MORE TIME, I'M 
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GOING TO HOP TO THE NEXT THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS WHAT COMMISSIONER LICHTY WAS WAS TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS JUST A QUICK COMPARISON. IN THE BACKGROUND YOU HAVE THE 2018 THOROUGHFARE PLAN. AND I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED OR I HAVE CIRCLED THE AREA WHERE THIS IS LOCATED. 
          AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE'S A BLACK LINE. THERE'S THERE'S AN INTERSECTION THERE OF A RED LINE AND A BLACK LINE. AND THE BLACK LINE IS 548 AND THAT IS THE AREA THAT'S IDENTIFIED AS THE FUTURE FREEWAY. THAT REQUIRES A FULL 300 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE LITTLE. CIRCULAR DRAWING THAT'S IN THE FOREGROUND, THAT ONE IS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE RECENT OPTIONS WE HAVE SEEN FOR WHERE THE OUTER LOOP COULD POSSIBLY GO. 
          AND AS COMMISSIONER LICHTY WAS MENTIONING, NONE OF THOSE OPTIONS EVEN TOUCH THAT YELLOW CIRCLE WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED. SO WE FEEL LIKE THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED OR PURCHASED BY TXDOT IS PROBABLY SUFFICIENT FOR FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. AND THAT ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE ROAD IS LIKELY NOT NEEDED AT THIS TIME. AND AGAIN, AS WE UPDATE OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, IT'S GOING TO COME TO LIGHT. WHERE WHERE THE ULTIMATE FREEWAY SECTION WILL WILL END UP GOING, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO FOLLOW THIS TRAJECTORY. THEN THE SECOND WAIVER, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE YELLOW BOX AT THE TOP. BASICALLY IT IS OUR BUILDING SETBACK. NOW THE REQUIREMENT IS ALONG A FREEWAY OR ALONG A SECTION OF ROAD LIKE THIS, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A 50 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. IT DOESN'T SAY THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THAT IS JUST THE CONSERVATIVE. INTERPRETATION OF IT, IS THAT IT WOULD BE FROM THE MOST FROM THAT ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY. SO THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ADDITIONAL 40 FOOT FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL 50FT FROM THAT. SO 90 FOOT ALONG THE FRONT OF THAT PROPERTY ALONG. 548 FOR THIS PROPERTY. AND SO AGAIN, THAT IS THIS, THIS WAS THE COMMENT THAT OUR CONSULTANT HAS MADE MULTIPLE TIMES, AND IT IS THE MOST CONSERVATIVE INTERPRETATION. SO THESE ARE THE TWO ITEMS THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING VARIANCES FOR. AND HOPEFULLY I DIDN'T MUDDLE THAT UP TOO MUCH. AND I HELPED Y'ALL UNDERSTAND THE TWO ITEMS. AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. ALBERT IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. NOW LET'S DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? LET'S LET THE APPLICANT COME PRESENT TO US OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE. YES. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. DO YOU HAVE ANY THUMB DRIVE? I DON'T. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANKS TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND TO MR. LICHTY AND TO MISS BRIDGES. I WANT TO BUILD UPON WHAT MISS BRIDGES SAID. IF I MAY APPROACH JUDGE AND HAND YOU A SCHEMATIC. TWO OF THEM. ACTUALLY, I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T HAVE THESE IN A MORE VIEWABLE FORMAT, BUT I'LL HAND IT TO YOU IN ORDER. ONE AND TWO. THE FIRST ONE SHOWS THE EFFECT OF THE 150 FOOT DEDICATION THAT'S BEING REQUIRED OF US. UPON SUBMISSION OF OUR PLANS. 
          IT TAKES THAT ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY UP, RIGHT TO THE CUSP OF THE BUILDING THAT'S ENVISIONED. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE TO REESTABLISH THIS, MISS BRIDGES VERY APTLY SAID THE ADDITIONAL 50 FOOT SETBACK LINE. AND SO PAGE TWO IS OUR EFFORT TO CURE THAT, TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THIS STILL WORK AND WE HAVE TO MOVE THE BUILDING OVER MORE NORTHBOUND, AND WE LOSE OUR FIRST OF TWO ROWS OF PARKING, THE ONE THAT'S FURTHER OUT CLOSEST TO THE HIGHWAY, CLOSEST TO 548. AND WE ALSO LOSE OUR FUEL SITE, THOUGH IT MAKES THIS SITE NON-ECONOMIC TO EVER DEVELOP. IT IS A 1.93 ACRE SITE. IT DEALS FULLY WITH ANY ISSUES OF THE FLOOD ZONE WHICH ARE BEHIND IT. AND SO BOTTOM LINE IS BY THE DENIAL OF OUR REQUEST TO PROCEED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WITHOUT THE 150 FOOT SETBACK, IT RENDERS THIS NOT USEFUL. WE WENT AHEAD AND SUBMITTED A FORMAL REQUEST IN WRITING IN OCTOBER OF 25 LAST YEAR TO THE COMMISSIONERS, REQUESTING THAT THIS VARIANCE 
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BE GRANTED, AND THIS IS OUR FIRST CHANCE TO ACTUALLY APPEAR BEFORE THE COMMISSION. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS A SITUATION THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS CALLED JAKA, HAS BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO SOLVE SINCE IT BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN 2023. THE PROPERTY IS UNDER A DEED OF TRUST. I DON'T WANT TO GO FURTHER INTO DISCUSSING THE LOAN COVENANTS THAT ARE IN PLAY HERE, BUT IT'S VERY PERILOUS FOR THIS OWNER. THIS IS AT RISK OF A SEVERE FAILURE FOR HIM. I'VE BROUGHT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE OWNERSHIP FROM THE DEVELOPER BULLPEN DAY HERE THIS MORNING, BUT I WILL BE ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS AT LEAST INITIALLY. 
          BUT WE WOULD ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE APPEARS TO BE, BASED UPON WHAT MR. BRIDGES SAID, LIKELY NO PUBLIC NECESSITY FOR THIS ADDITIONAL DEDICATION THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ACT TODAY TO ACTUALLY GRANT THE VARIANCE AND WAIVE THAT DEDICATION REQUIREMENT. THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, CRAIG, AND MAYBE YOUR DEVELOPER CAN ANSWER THIS. AND I WOULD ALSO AT SOME POINT, I'LL WANT ERIKA TO YOU TO INPUT ON THIS. THERE'S TWO WAIVER REQUESTS THAT ARE BEFORE US. IF THE TROUBLE I HAVE AS, AS I'VE EXPLAINED TO YOU, IS WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF REVISING OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS OUTER LOOP IS GOING TO GO. WE THINK IT'S ALL GOING TO BE OKAY, BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET. DOES IT HELP YOU, OR WOULD IT HELP YOU GET THROUGH THIS SITUATION? IF WAIVER REQUEST TWO WERE GRANTED, BUT WAIVER REQUEST ONE WAS NOT GRANTED AT THIS TIME. THE ONLY SOLUTION IS TO HAVE A WAIVER GRANTED AS TO THE ENTIRE 150 FOOT DEDICATION FROM CENTER LINE. WE TRIED TO SEE IF WE COULD DO WITH LESS CIVIL WAIVER. IT'S NOT FEASIBLE. IT DOES NOT ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH THE GAS. EVEN IF WE TOOK AWAY THE BUILDING SETBACK REQUIREMENT, IT STILL IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY OF THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY LINE, AS MISS BRIDGES DESCRIBED IT. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SECOND PAGE I HANDED UP FIRST PAGE, EXCUSE ME, IT SHOWS IS STILL TOO CLOSE, EVEN WITHOUT A 50 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT. AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, WE NEED FOR SAFETY TO HAVE SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THEMSELVES. WELL, AND THE REASON THE REASON I BRING IT UP. I AGREE, I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT IDEAL, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE WORKING WITH SOME EXIGENCIES IN YOUR SITUATION, BUT I ANTICIPATE THAT 150 RIGHT OF WAY WILL NOT BE REQUIRED WHEN WE'RE THROUGH THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH. AND I WAS JUST THINKING IF WE COULD, IF IT WOULD HELP YOU TO APPROVE WAIVER REQUEST TO NOW AND THEN YOU COULD COME BACK WHEN WE'RE THROUGH OUR OUTER LOOP DECISION MAKING ON THIS MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, COME BACK FOR WAIVER ONE. TO ME, THAT'S FROM THE COUNTY'S STANDPOINT, A SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROBABLY THAT I WOULD THINK I COULD DO. SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE HONEST, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE BIFURCATION OF THE REQUESTS INTO ONE AND TWO. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR INTENTION TO SEEK ONE, A WAIVER OF THE 150 FOOT DEDICATION AS BEING NOT NECESSARY, NOT SERVING A PUBLIC NEED AND DESTRUCTIVE TO THE USE OF THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. WELL, BETWEEN THE. BETWEEN THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION REQUIREMENT AND THEN THE SETBACK. ON TOP OF THAT, THE THE SETBACK IS BASED UPON THE ULTIMATE 150 FOOT REQUIREMENT. AND IF THE 150 IF WE TOOK THAT EXTRA 50FT OF SETBACK AWAY, IT WOULD GIVE YOU MORE ROOM AND IT WOULD. IF WE DO END UP KEEPING 150 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROBABLY LIVE WITH. IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT IT'S JUST A RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S NOT WHERE A ROAD IS GOING TO BE NECESSARILY. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TRY AND SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM CREATIVELY, BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DEALING WITH THIS WHOLE OUTER LOOP LOCATION ISSUE. 
          IT'S TIED INTO THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE. RIGHT? UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A SOLUTION TO TO DO WITH THE LESSER OF THE TWO WAIVERS THAT YOU SUGGESTED. COMMISSIONER GILANI, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NOT NOT A QUESTION. I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN SINCE 2023 THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO ACHIEVE THIS. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WAITING FOR ONE UNTIL THE OUTER LOOP IS DONE SEEMS TO BE 
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ASKING THEM TO DELAY AGAIN FOR AN UNKNOWN AMOUNT OF TIME. BECAUSE WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY CLUE WHEN WE'RE GOING TO REACH A DEAL ON THE OUTER LOOP. RIGHT NOW IN THIS COURT, WE KNOW WHAT WE'D LIKE TO PURSUE, BUT IT'S SO AMBIGUOUS AS TO WHERE THAT DIRECTION IS HEADED, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON THERE RIGHT NOW WITH COG AND RTC. TOTALLY UNDERSTOOD, COMMISSIONER. BUT TO ME, I DON'T FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK THE OUTER LOOP IS GOING TO GO DOWN. 548 I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN DECIDED INFORMALLY, BUT WE HAVE A MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT REQUIRES 150FT. I THINK THAT WILL ALL CHANGE WHEN OUR MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS IS REVISED, BUT IT'S STILL WHAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW. BUT IF WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE, WHAT ALL I'M SAYING IS WHY DELAY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IF WE ALREADY IN OUR MINDS KNOW IT'S GOING TO CHANGE? AND THIS PROPERTY IS, IN MY OPINION, DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF HOW IT SETS IN THE ROADWAY, IN THIS PIE SHAPE, IS THAT IF WE DO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, AND THAT TAKES HOW LONG FROM NOW, IN YOUR ESTIMATION, WE PROBABLY ANOTHER 11 MONTHS. OKAY. SO WE ASK THEM TO WAIT ANOTHER 11 MONTHS TO COME BACK AND WE REACH THE SAME DECISION. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT THING FOR THE COURT TO DO EITHER. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. I THINK THE PROPERTY IS FINE FOR WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IN MY MIND. BUT I'M JUST ONE. I'M JUST ONE VOTE HERE. NO, I THINK WAITING AND AND DELAYING THIS, WE'RE JUST GOING TO END UP IN THE SAME PLACE. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO, THEN LET'S JUST LET'S JUST GET IT DONE. I GET IT, BUT I, I WOULD SAY THIS AND I'VE TOLD. MR. ALBERT THIS, THAT ONCE WE GRANT THAT 150 FOOT WAIVER, IT'LL NEVER COME BACK. AND WE MAY NOT NEED IT. I DON'T THINK WE WILL NEED IT. AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE APPLICANT, HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WITH THIS MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN IN PLACE. HE BOUGHT IT IN 2023. 
          AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE COLD HEARTED. I'VE TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION HERE. I KNOW YOU ARE, I GET IT, I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN. MY POINT IS THAT, LOOK, IF WE APPROVE THIS NOW, MINUS THE 150 FOOT SETBACK AND WE HAVE A NEW THOROUGH PLAN, HIT THE GROUND AFTER THIS, THAT NEW THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS GOING TO BECOME THE LAW OF THE LAND. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO. WHAT WE DECIDE FOR THIS PROPERTY ISN'T GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS A PRECEDENT. ONCE THE NEW THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS IN PLACE, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU. THAT NEW THOROUGHFARE PLAN WILL THEN TAKE PRECEDENT OVER WHAT WE DECIDE TODAY. RIGHT. BUT IF THAT THOROUGHFARE PLAN SAID WE HAVE TO KEEP 150FT THERE, WELL, I DON'T THINK IT WILL EITHER. I'VE SAID THAT MULTIPLE TIMES, AND I'VE TOLD THE APPLICANT THAT NOW HE'S SMILING AT YOU. BUT BUT IF IT DOES, THEY WILL HAVE A BUILDING BUILT THERE AND IT'LL BECOME IMPOSSIBLE TO WORK WITH WITHOUT CONDEMNING THAT BUILDING. YEAH. OKAY. SO IT AS I SEE IT, I SEE BOTH OF YOU, BUT I THINK WE'RE DEALING WITH A 90% PROBABILITY THAT WE COME BACK AND WE DON'T NEED THIS RIGHT AWAY. 10% MAY COME BACK AND, AND BITE US IN THE REAR, BUT I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE 90% CHANCE OF OF SUCCESS. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GRANT THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO SECTION 5.2.1 MINIMUM RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AND SECTION 5.4.8 BUILDING SETBACKS OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY SUBDIVISION AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. LOCATED AT 11160 SOUTH STATE HIGHWAY 205, AS PRESENTED BY COUNTY ENGINEER ERICA BRIDGES. I'LL. SECOND, WE HAVE MY VERY LONG MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GALLINA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. IT PASSES 4 TO 1. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. YOU'RE WELCOME. YOU ARE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM 12. DISCUSS AND ACT ON 
          [12. Discuss/Act on establishing the office of the Fire Marshal and appointing Steve Gutierrez to a 2 year term as the Rockwall County Fire Marshal, and all related issues; (Judge New – County Engineer)]
ESTABLISHING THE OFFICE OF THE FIRE MARSHAL AND APPOINTING STEVE GUTIERREZ TO A TWO YEAR TERM AS THE ROCKWALL COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL. IN ALL RELATED ISSUES. MISS ERICA? YES, SIR. 
          SO, ACTUALLY, I HAVE ONE SMALL CHANGE TO THIS. THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED WHEN I WHEN I PUT TOGETHER THAT AGENDA ITEM, WE WERE STILL DOING A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH. BUT THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT. PREVIOUSLY. IT'S JUST BEEN ON HIATUS. SO THAT PART IS NOT NEEDED. HOWEVER, LOCAL 
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GOVERNMENT CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL BE APPOINTED TO NO MORE THAN A TWO YEAR TERM. SO WHAT I WANT TO ASK THE COURT IS THE START OF THIS TERM IS 519. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THEN LINE IT UP TO LIKE THE FIRST OF A MONTH. AND SO IT WOULD BE TWO WEEKS SHORT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE COURT WOULD, WOULD, WOULD WANT TO DO THAT OR IF WE WANT TO MAKE IT FIVE, 19 TO 5, 19 OF TWO YEARS LATER, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE SHORTER. SO IT HAS TO BE 2ND MAY FIRST. COMMON SENSE WOULD SAY TO DO IT TO THE END OF THE MONTH. BUT WITH OUR COMMISSIONERS COURTS BEING THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAYS, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER OTHER THAN TRYING TO JUST MAKE IT CLEANER. YEAH. BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK TWO YEARS LATER AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH A FIRE MARSHAL ON MAY 19TH OF 2028 TO MAY 19TH OF 2030. IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. BUT I, MY MY PREFERENCE IS TO LINE IT UP TO MAY 1ST. IT'S MY PREFERENCE, BUT I'M ONLY ONE PERSON, AS BOBBY SAID IN IN THE LAST. I MEAN, THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT IS THAT I HAVE A VERY COMPLEX MOTION THAT I HAD GENERAL COUNSEL WORK UP FOR WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, WHICH IS EXERCISING A BOND, DISCUSSING THE PAY AND ALSO SETTING THE TERM OF THIS OFFICE. AND I DON'T WANT TO READ THIS WHOLE BIG OLD LONG MOTION IF THE COURT'S LIKE, NO, I WANT IT TO BE EXACTLY TWO YEARS. SO THAT'S THE REASON I'M BRINGING. I'M BRINGING IT UP SO THAT WE CAN SO THAT I CAN GET KIND OF A FEEL FOR WHAT Y'ALL THINK BECAUSE MY MOTION WILL BE FIVE, 19, 20, 26 TO 5 ONE OF 2028. I WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH HEARTBURN TO EVEN PUSH BACK AGAINST THAT. COMMISSIONER STACY. OKAY. SO IF IT PLEASES THE COURT, I'LL READ MY MOTION, PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION APPROVING THE TERM OF FIRE MARSHAL AND APPOINTING STEVE GUTIERREZ TO A TERM THAT STARTS FIVE, 19, 20, 26 AND GOES TO FIVE ONE OF 2028, AUTHORIZING A BOND AMOUNT OF $5,000 AND AN ANNUAL PAY OF $125,000 THAT WILL BE PAID OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES FOR THE UNFILLED POSITIONS, SO NO BUDGET AMENDMENT WOULD BE NECESSARY. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCCULLOCH. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. COMMISSIONER STACY, DID YOU SAY DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICE BUDGET OR THE FUND 51 BUDGET? I BELIEVE HIS SALARY IS. IS THIS SALARY IN FUND 51? I BELIEVE IT IS. OKAY. WELL, THEN THEN I WOULD AMEND THE MOTION TO BE PAID OUT OF FUND 51. IT ACTUALLY IS. IT'S NOT IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES YOUR AMENDMENT. BUT I THOUGHT YEAH, LET'S CLEAR THAT UP REAL FAST. YES. IT'S IN 51. OKAY. SO SO I'M IN THE MOTION FOR IT TO BE PAID OUT OF FUND 51. I APOLOGIZE COURT AND I APPROVE SECOND THAT AMENDMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE GOING TO REVOTE THIS THING RIGHT NOW WITH AN AMENDED MOTION AND AMENDED. SECOND, IT ONCE AGAIN PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT, MISS LISA. ALL 
          [13. Discuss/Act on approving a Service Agreement with MCA to provide intrusion alarm monitoring services at 915 Whitmore Drive through September 30, 2026, and all related items; (Commissioner Liechty – County Auditor)]
RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM 13. DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH MC A TO PROVIDE INTRUSION ALARM MONITORING SERVICES AT 915 WHITMORE DRIVE THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026 AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LICHTY THANK YOU, JUDGE. AS YOU ALL REMEMBER, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WE WERE PRESENTED WITH A RENEWAL OF THE MC, A SECURITY MONITORING CONTRACT. WE'VE MADE AN INFORMAL DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR THAT HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED YET. THE EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH MC, A LEFT OFF THE WILMER WHITMORE BUILDING. AND WHAT THIS IS DOING IS ADDING THE WHITMORE BUILDING TO THAT CONTRACT SO THAT WE CAN PAY THEM FOR THEIR SERVICES UNTIL WE MAKE THE SWITCH OVER. 
          I THINK IT'LL BE VERY SOON. WE WE JUST I THINK IT WAS LAST WELL, LAST WEEK, THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, WE GOT A REVISED WE GOT AN ADDENDUM TO THE PROPOSED GREEN SECURITY CONTRACT FROM OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT. AND WE JUST NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT AND GET THAT DONE. I THINK IT'LL BE HAPPENING PROBABLY IN JUNE. THE APPROVAL WILL. BUT SO THAT OUR AUDITOR CAN PAY MC FOR THEIR SERVICES THEY'RE PROVIDING. WE NEED TO ADD THE WHITMORE BUILDING. GOT IT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ONE QUESTION. IS IT THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH THOUGH. WELL IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, THE MOTION WE MADE WAS TO CONTINUE WITH MC A 
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FOR A PERIOD NOT TO GO BEYOND SEPTEMBER 30TH. AND SO WHAT THIS MOTION WILL DO IS TO AMEND IT FOR A PERIOD NOT TO GO BEYOND. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION JUST A SECOND. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THEN I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH MC A TO PROVIDE INTRUSION ALARM MONITORING SERVICES AT 915 WHITMORE DRIVE FOR A PERIOD NOT BEYOND SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GILLEN. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, 
          [14. Discuss/Act on revising the approval process for invoices arising from road construction projects, invoices will be reviewed by the County Engineer prior to submission to Judge New for final approval and signature, and all related issues; (Judge New)]
PLEASE. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 14. DISCUSS AND ACT ON REVISING THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR INVOICES ARISING FROM ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. INVOICES WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER PRIOR TO SUBMISSION TO JUDGE FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND SIGNATURE. COMMISSIONERS, I ASK THAT THIS BE PUT ON THE COURT. IT JUST SEEMED LOGICAL TO ME THAT OUR COUNTY ENGINEER, WHO'S IN CHARGE OF ROADS, SHOULD HAVE THE FIRST LOOK AT INVOICES PRIOR TO THEM COMING TO ME FOR APPROVAL. I AM THE FINAL SIGNATORY OF APPROVAL, BUT IT JUST MAKES SENSE THAT THAT SHE LOOKS AT THEM AND SAYS, YES, THIS IS LEGITIMATE. SOME SOME OF THE INVOICES GO TO COMMISSIONERS. SO IF IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE HER, SHOULD IT BE INCLUDED IN IN ALL ROADS BEFORE IT GOES TO ANY MEMBER OF THE COURT RATHER THAN JUST THE JUDGE, BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD CREATE A WEIRD PROCESS THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT THAT ERIKA HAS THE FIRST LOOK AT IT, SHE APPROVES IT AND THEN SENDS IT EITHER TO ME OR TO WHATEVER COMMISSIONER IS WORKING ON IT. AND FROM THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, THE APPROVAL IS STILL COMING FROM THE COURT. SO SO IT'S NOT CHANGING THE AUDITOR'S PROCESS BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T GET PAID UNTIL ONE OF US APPROVES WHAT'S GOING ON. IT JUST GIVES US A LAYER OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR ENGINEER CAN GET EXPERT GUIDANCE. YEAH. IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT I'M APPROVING THINGS THAT. HOPEFULLY THE ENGINEER APPROVED, BUT THERE'S NO OFFICIAL CHAIN OF COMMAND THERE. 
          SO SO DOES THE ORIGINAL CHAIN OF COMMAND. DOES IT START THOUGH WITH OUR WITH WITH IT'S. 
          YES. DID THEY LOOK AT IT FIRST BEFORE? BEFORE. I GUESS THE AUDITOR WOULD GET LOOPED INTO THAT. IT WOULD GO TO THE ENGINEER. OKAY, IF WE APPROVE MY CHANGE AND THEN EITHER TO ME OR WHICHEVER COMMISSIONER IS HANDLING THAT PROJECT. OKAY. AND ERICA, YOU'RE GOOD WITH THIS. OKAY. I THINK IT'S A GOOD CHANGE, JUDGE. AND TO YOUR POINT, DANA, WE ARE PAYING IT'S TO DO THIS. SO IT WOULD BE FOOLISH TO TAKE THEM OUT OF THE LOOP. THEY STILL GOT TO DO IT. 
          AND THEY'VE GOT THE DETAILED ENGINEERING KNOWLEDGE. BUT I AGREE WITH JUDGE NEW ON THIS THAT IF WE HAD A IF I'M PRESENTED WITH A BILL, I WOULD SURE LIKE TO KNOW THAT OUR ENGINEER AGREES WITH ME BEFORE I PAY IT. SO THAT. THAT BEING THE CASE, UNLESS YOU WANT TO MAKE NO, PLEASE, PLEASE, I, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT OUR PROCESS WILL BE REVISED THAT IN INVOICES FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER PRIOR TO SUBMISSION TO JUDGE NEW OR ANY COMMISSIONERS FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND SIGNATURE. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. I'LL. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACEY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. 
          [15. CONSENT AGENDA]
THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM 15. CONSENT AGENDA. CAN WE. COMMISSIONER, CAN WE PULL ITEM E JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE, I GUESS, THE HISTORY OF THIS? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT F. WELL, I HAVE E FOR THE CHILD WELFARE. OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHILD WELFARE. YES. OKAY. JUST I MEAN, I DON'T REMEMBER WE'VE SENT PEOPLE IN THE PAST, BUT MAYBE WE HAVEN'T. I JUST OKAY. YEAH WE DO EVERY YEAR. OKAY. WELL ALL RIGHT THEN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PULL IT. THAT WAS A QUESTION I HAD. IT WAS JUST REALLY FUNNY BECAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO ASK IF YOU WANTED TO PULL F SO THAT HE COULD DISCUSS THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE WITH HIS. IF YOU WANT TO, I WOULD, I WOULD. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA A, B, C, D, E, AND G GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY. I'LL SECOND IT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MACKLIN. BEAR WITH ME IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES. NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES 
          [15.f. Commissioner Gallana – Acknowledge Resolution supporting May as Jewish Heritage Month]
5 TO 0. SO THAT TAKES US TO CONSENT AGENDA ITEM F ACKNOWLEDGE RESOLUTION 
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SUPPORTING MAY AS JEWISH HERITAGE MONTH. COMMISSIONER GILANI. THANKS. I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS REAL QUICK INTO THE MINUTES. MAY IS RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY AS JEWISH HERITAGE MONTH, AND I WANT TO HONOR THAT. WHEREAS JEWISH HISTORY IS TIGHTLY WOVEN INTO OUR TAPESTRY WITH JEWISH AMERICANS HAVING ACHIEVED BOUNDLESS SUCCESS IN PUBLIC SERVICE, ACADEMIA, BUSINESS, AND THE FINE ARTS. AND WHEREAS FOR COUNTLESS YEARS, ARTISTS AND INTELLECTUALS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS HAVE ALLUDED TO JUDAISM, INCLUDING HISTORICALLY BASED REFLECTIONS ON THE PROMISED LAND, PARTING OF THE RED SEA, 40 YEARS WANDERING IN THE WILDERNESS AND MANNA RAINING DOWN FROM HEAVEN. AND WHEREAS JEWISH AMERICANS EMBODY A SET OF VALUES THAT HAS INFLUENCED AMERICAN THOUGHT AT THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL, HELPING SHAPE THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR NATION FROM THE EARLIEST DAYS. AND WHEREAS JEWS WORLDWIDE HAVE LONG EXPERIENCED ANTI-SEMITISM, AND NOW MORE THAN EVER, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH COMMUNITY TO FIGHT AGAINST HATE, HATE, HATE, RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY AND TERRORISM. AND WHEREAS AMERICANS MUST NOT ALLOW ANY SORT OF HOSTILITY OR PREJUDICE TO DISRUPT THE PRINCIPLES UPON WHICH OUR NATION WAS FOUNDED FREEDOM, TOLERANCE, RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE UNDERSIGNED ELECTED OFFICIALS DEEM THE MONTH OF MAY AS JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN ROCKWALL COUNTY, TEXAS AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT ROLE JEWISH PEOPLE PLAYED IN OUR NATION AND COMMUNITY TO APPRECIATE THEIR RICH HISTORY, TO SUPPORT ISRAEL AND ITS PEOPLE, AND TO REINFORCE THE VALUES THAT TRANSCEND ALL CULTURAL AND ETHNIC BOUNDARIES. 
          THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT CONSENT AGENDA ITEM F, AS READ INTO THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER GALLINA. I'LL SECOND. GOT A SECOND IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, 
          [16. PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS/DISPOSITIONS]
PLEASE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DELANO, FOR DOING THAT. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM 16 PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS, DISPOSITIONS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND DISPOSITIONS. A THROUGH D GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GALLINA. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. THAT 
          [17. NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFER(S)]
TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM 17. NON EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS. MOTION TO APPROVE NON EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS. A AND B GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GALLARDO. I'LL SECOND IT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCCULLOCH. IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. 
          [18. APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL(S):]
THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM 18 APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS AND PAYROLL. THANK YOU. 
          JUDGE NEW. I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT. PAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $104,191.62, AND ASKED FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL. MOVE TO APPROVE. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GALLINA. IT PASSES 5 TO 0. I'M ALSO SUBMITTING TO THE COURT UNPAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,282,633.41, AND ASKED FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL. SO MOVED. 
          MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GALLINA. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCCULLOCH. IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT THE PAYROLL REPORT FOR THE PAY PERIOD ENDING MAY THE 9TH. EXCUSE ME, 2026 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,217,089.52. AND I ASKED FOR COURT'S APPROVAL. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. I'LL SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME, WE WON'T. DON'T HAVE ANY NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THEIR MEDIATION CONTINUES. SO THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM 21. 
          [21. COMMISSIONERS COURT REPORTS]
COMMISSIONER COURT REPORTS. LET'S START WITH PRECINCT FOUR. I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT PUT ON THE TEN COMMANDMENTS PRESENTATION AND CEREMONY ON SATURDAY. IT WAS A GREAT TIME. IT WAS VERY BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S PRETTY AWESOME TO SEE IT UP AND STANDING IN THE SQUARE. SO IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD TIME. AND THEN FOR MEMORIAL DAY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR, FOR ALL THAT HAVE GIVEN ALL AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO REFLECT BACK ON WHAT MAKES US A GREAT COUNTRY. AND THAT'S ALL I GOT. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER LICHTY. 
          CONTINUING WITH MY THEME OF WHAT HAPPENED 250 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK. AND IN THIS TIME, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'RE WINDING UP OUR MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO REMEMBER THOSE THAT DIED FIGHTING FOR OUR INDEPENDENCE. DETAILED RECORDS WERE NOT MAINTAINED AND RETAINED AT THAT TIME, BUT HISTORIANS, ESPECIALLY HOWARD H. PECKHAM'S 
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DETAILED 1974 STUDY, THE TOLL OF INDEPENDENCE, PROVIDE THE MOST COMMONLY CITED FIGURES. 
          TOTAL MILITARY DEATHS. ARMY, NAVY AND MILITIA WERE BETWEEN 25,000 AND 25,500 KILLED IN ACTION. BATTLE DEATHS WERE BETWEEN 6800 AND 68, 24 DEATHS FROM DISEASE AND OTHER CAUSES, 17,000 TO 18,000 508,500 WHO DIED. WHILE PRISONERS OF WAR, OFTEN ON BRITISH PRISON SHIPS IN PLACES LIKE NEW YORK HARBOR. THE WOUNDED ESTIMATES RANGED FROM 6100 TO 8500, WITH SOME BROADER FIGURES UP TO 25,000, INCLUDING THOSE DISABLED LONG TERM. AND TO PREVENT HIS NAME FROM BEING FORGOTTEN, I WANT TO REMEMBER AND HONOR CAPTAIN JAMES MUGFORD, WHO LOST HIS LIFE ON MAY 19TH, 1776, IN A NAVAL SKIRMISH IN BOSTON HARBOR, MASSACHUSETTS. MUGFORD WAS COMMANDING THE CONTINENTAL SCHOONER FRANKLIN, AND HE AND HIS CREW REPELLED A BRITISH BOARDING ATTEMPT IN CLOSE QUARTERS COMBAT USING PIKES, CUTLASSES AND MUSKETS, MUGFORD WAS SHOT IN THE CHEST DURING THE FIGHTING. HIS REPORTED LAST WORDS TO HIS LIEUTENANT WERE I AM A DEAD MAN. DO NOT GIVE UP THE VESSEL. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO BEAT THEM. HE WAS THE ONLY AMERICAN KILLED IN THE ENGAGEMENT. THE DAY OF THE BATTLE WAS MUGFORD 27TH BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THIS THURSDAY AND FRIDAY THERE WILL BE A TEXT 21 STATEWIDE MEETING IN DALLAS. AND I'M ENCOURAGED BECAUSE I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT STATE SENATOR TAM PARKER IS ONE OF THE ONE OF THE SPEAKERS. AND I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT EVERYONE ON THIS COURT, WE ARE ALL DETERMINED TO PRESENT OUR COUNTY'S TRANSPORTATION NEEDS AS WE KNOW THEM OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 20 YEARS. AND SO OUR ATTENDANCE AND OUR POSITIONING AND OUR LOBBYING EFFORTS WILL CONTINUE ON. AND SO I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO VISIT WITH EACH ONE OF YOU ON SEPARATE TIMES, BECAUSE I'M WORKING ON A POTENTIAL STATE IMPOSED. TAX INCREASE THAT'S BEEN MANDATED TO ON CERTAIN ITEMS THAT COUNTIES ARE HAVING TO THAT WE THAT WE'RE DOING WITH AND, AND, AND HAVE BEEN IMPOSED TO. AND IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS WE GET READY TO START WORKING ON THE ON OUR OUR POSITIONS FOR THE 90TH SESSION, WE NEED TO KIND OF GET AHEAD OF THIS RIGHT NOW. AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM THAT THE DOLLARS ARE, ARE. AND AS WE'RE APPROACHING OUR BUDGET, WE JUST NEED TO BE COGNIZANT. THERE'S A NUMBER OF THESE IMPOSED MANDATES THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT CAME IN FROM THE 89TH. WE ALREADY KNOW THEM, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT. AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THOSE AS WE AS WE TALK, AS WE GET READY AND GET PREPARED FOR THE 90TH SESSION, COMMISSIONER GALLINA IDEA SESSION IS APPROACHING QUICKLY. AND AS LAUREN LICHTY SAYS, WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE VERY UNSAFE BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO BE IN SESSION. I'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS TO UPDATE ON. ONE, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL THIS WEEKEND THAT REALLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION CALLED THE ARCHITECTS OF AMERICAN RENEWAL. AND IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION BECAUSE AS WE APPROACH OUR 250TH ANNIVERSARY, I THOUGHT, WHAT A STARK CONTRAST IN HOW I BELIEVE OUR FOUNDERS FELT VERSUS WHAT THIS ARTICLE PORTRAYED. AND SOME MAY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS, BUT THIS ARTICLE TALKED ABOUT HOW AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON IDEALS INTENTIONALLY LEFT UNFINISHED. 
          ITS TRUE GREATNESS LIES NOT IN CLAIMS OF PERFECTION, BUT IN ITS CAPABILITY FOR SELF-CORRECTION. AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S A REALLY INTERESTING TAKE, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE I THINK THE REASON THAT OUR UNIQUE EXPERIMENT HAS LASTED 250 YEARS IS BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION MEANS WHAT IT SAYS AND SAYS WHAT IT MEANS. I DON'T THINK OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON, AS IT WENT ON TO SAY, VALUES THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THEN OR IN HUMAN NATURE, STORIES THAT WE DIDN'T CONSIDER. I THINK IT WAS FOUNDED ON JUDEO-CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES WELL DOCUMENTED IN OUR HISTORY. AND ANY STORY THAT CLAIMS THAT IT WASN'T IS JUST WRONG AND JUST STEERS US IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. AND THESE WILL COME OUT MORE AND MORE AS WE REACH OUR 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY. AND I JUST WANT YOU TO APPROACH IT. AND I'M A STRICT CONSTITUTIONALIST. THAT'S WHO I AM. BUT I WANT YOU TO APPROACH THAT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY THAT OUR COUNTRY WAS NOT LEFT UNFINISHED. THERE ARE THINGS IN OUR CONSTITUTION 
          [01:30:04]
THAT STILL APPLY TODAY, LIKE OUR SECOND AMENDMENT. DID THEY KNOW THAT OUR COUNTRY WAS GOING TO BE AS ADVANCED AS IT IS TODAY? NO. BUT IS WHAT THEY DID IMPORTANT THEN? AND DO THOSE WORDS MATTER TODAY? YES, IN MY OPINION. SECONDLY, I WANT TO JUST I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER LICHTY FOR THE TEN COMMANDMENTS MONUMENT AND HIS TIRELESS EFFORT AND THE COMMITTEE. DANA, GREAT WORK ON THE COMMITTEE AS WELL. IT WENT OFF WITHOUT A HITCH. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY, A BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE COUNTY. AND THEN LASTLY, PRECINCT ONE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TOWN HALL ON JUNE 18TH. RIGHT NOW, THE VENUE IS GOING TO BE THE YMCA, AND THEY HAVE A ROOM THERE THAT THEY'D LIKE US TO USE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL. IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE RSVP FOR THE TOWN HALL ON JUNE 18TH. IT'LL BE IN THE EVENING AT 6 P.M. IF WE CAN FIT EVERYBODY IN THERE. IF WE MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE IN THE VENUE SOMEWHERE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER, AND TO YOUR POINT OF THE CONSTITUTION AND FOUNDING BEING UNDONE, I'M AWARE OF NO INSTANCE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR RIGHTS AND BEEN ABLE TO RECAPTURE THEM. ONCE YOU GIVE THEM UP, THEY'RE GONE. AND I WANT TO ADD MY NAME TO THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT THANK COMMISSIONER LICHTY. I WAS JUST GIDDY ALL, ALL DAY. I MEAN, LITERALLY, I, I TOLD MY WIFE, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOUR PARENTS TELL YOU YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO SIX FLAGS TOMORROW. YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE EXCITED AND YOU'RE HAPPY. I'VE JUST. AND I'M STILL EXCITED AND HAPPY AND I'M THANKFUL, THANKFUL. THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE KIND WORDS AND, AND THANK GOD FOR GREAT WEATHER. I GOTTA TELL YOU, SOMEBODY CAME UP TO ME AT SOME EVENT THIS WEEKEND AND SAID, I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU SMILE SO MUCH BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, YOU, THE JUDGE. IT WAS JUST I. ABOUT 11:00 I WAS SITTING THERE THINKING, WHY CAN'T IT BE 3:00 RIGHT NOW? THAT'S RIGHT. SO ANYWAY, THANKS FOR ALL THOSE KIND WORDS. IT WAS A
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