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ON MONDAY. I WILL CALL THIS BUDGET WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER. AND WE HAVE OUR
[2. Discussion of FY2027 Budget, and all related issues; (Judge New)]
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, ROCKWALL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO TAKE IT AWAY, SHERIFF GARRETT.GOOD AFTERNOON. JUDGE COMMISSIONERS. THANKS FOR GETTING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO LISTEN TO THIS. AND WE'LL GET THROUGH ANOTHER YEAR OF IT. ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW Y'ALL HAD THE BUDGET FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS NOW AND HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THIS, AND A COUPLE OF YOU HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT I WANT TO DO. MAYBE JUST START OFF ON THE KIND OF THE HIGH POINTS OF THE SUMMARY OF THE BUDGET, AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT DON'T COVER IN HERE, BUT ON PERSONNEL REQUEST, ONE OF THE THINGS A COUPLE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT COURTHOUSE DEPUTIES, WE'VE HAD AN INCREASE IN THE COURTS.
THEY'RE INCREASING PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE COURTS AND ON THE PROPERTY ALSO. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR FOR ADDITIONAL COURTHOUSE OPERATIONS, DEPUTIES AND COMMUNICATIONS. LAST YEAR WE HAD WE TOLD YOU ABOUT THIS ON. ONCE WE GET IN THE NEW THE UPDATED FACILITY, ADDING AN ADDITIONAL DISPATCHER, WHICH. THAT WOULD BRING US UP TO THE NUMBER FOR EACH CONSOLE THAT WE HAVE. THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THE WORK WITH COG THAT WILL PROBABLY TAKE SOME LEGISLATIVE ISSUES ON THE NEXT GEN 901 AND SOME INCREASES ON THAT. SO I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ANY OF THE BAD NEWS THAT COG'S TALKING ABOUT ON THAT. IF THEY DON'T GET ANY KIND OF INCREASE, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THAT, BUT WITH COMMUNICATIONS ALSO THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CALLS ON THOSE WHO WE DISPATCH FOR ALSO, WHICH IS FATE, ROYSE CITY, AND THEN OURSELVES, MCLENNAN, CHISHOLM, FIRE ONE RECORDS CLERK, WHICH WILL HELP US WITH.
CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? COULD YOU YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE THE REQUEST FOR THIS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT TAB THAT'S IN? IS THAT IN DASH 11? OKAY. THANK YOU FOR COMMUNICATIONS. IF YOU GO UP TO PROBABLY RIGHT AROUND 22-19 FOR COURTHOUSE. OKAY. I'M WITH YOU NOW. YEAH. GOT IT, GOT IT. SO JUST GET IN THE TWOS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, DANA, IF YOU WANT ME TO DO A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON HERE, LET ME KNOW. BUT I WAS JUST GOING TO COVER KIND OF THE HIGH PARTS, AND THEN WE COULD GO BACK TO DETAILS. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I HAD SEEN THE JUSTIFICATION, BUT I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO BACK IN THE VERY FAR BACK, SOME OF THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL REQUESTS. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING FOR IT. OKAY. AND THEN THE RECORDS CLERK, WHICH WE'RE HAVING AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF THE AMOUNT OF WORKLOAD PLACED ON OUR ON OUR STAFF IN THERE WITH THE RECORDS REQUEST. THE, SOME OF THE. WHAT IS IT, THE REDACTIONS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE BEING ASKED FOR AS FAR AS THE RECORDS CLERK DIVISION, THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY DEALS WITH THE RECORDS, THE MIS AND FILING THE CASES IS THAT ALSO FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST? YES. OKAY. SO YOUR DEPARTMENT, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IS, IS JUST BEING SWAMPED WITH WHAT I WOULD CALL SOMETIMES PUNITIVE. AND YEAH, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COMPANIES THAT WILL JUST ASK QUESTIONS ONLINE, PROBABLY 3 OR 4 TIMES A WEEK JUST ASKING FOR INFORMATION, WHETHER THEY THEY REALLY NEED IT OR NOT. THEY'RE TRYING TO FISH FOR INFORMATION, I GUESS. WELL, AND SOMETIMES IT'S DONE JUST TO PUNISH THE DEPARTMENT AND THE WORKLOAD ON THE RECORDS REQUEST OF VIDEO REDACTIONS HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE MORE DETAILED. THE CONDITION OF BOND CASE HEARINGS. AND THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE, ESPECIALLY SINCE FY 2022 ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT THIS THIS POSITION THAT'S TO. 6-16. THE POSITION ENSURING EFFICIENCY AND ASSISTANCE OF EXECUTIVE LEVEL FUNCTIONING, MAINTAINING CALENDARS AND KIND OF SUPERVISING THE OFFICE AREA THERE AND COMMUNICATIONS ON CAPITAL OUTLAY REQUESTS. THAT WILL BE TAB SEVEN TOTAL CAPITAL OUTLAY REQUEST 571 60. LOOKING AT FLEET VEHICLES, MOST OF THOSE COULD BE COVERED WITH SB 22 MONEY. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING
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AT SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE SEVEN, SIX, SIX, SIX VEHICLES AND THEN MOBILITY EQUIPMENT INVOLVED IN THAT SIX DESKTOPS AND FIVE OF THE IN-CAR. AND THOSE ARE ALL WOULD ALL BE REPLACEMENT REPLACEMENTS. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND ACTUALLY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF DESKTOPS. AND SO WE CAN USE THOSE AND DOCKING STATIONS, THE ONES WE HAVE THAT ARE IN THE CARS, THE MOBILE COMPUTERS WITH DOCKING STATIONS. SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ACTUAL DESKTOPS THAT WE HAVE, THOSE LAPTOPS, SHERIFF, THOSE ARE THOSE TOUGH BOOKS OR. YES, SIR. OKAY. YEAH. COMMISSIONER GALLINA. I DON'T EVEN THINK I HAVE TO ASK AT THIS POINT ON THE VEHICLES. YES, SIR. YEAH. SIX IS WHAT WHAT WE DISCUSSED. WE MAY. WE STILL NEED TO LOOK AT IF THERE ARE GOING TO BE OTHER NEEDS IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE CAN ROLL SOMETHING OFF OF, WE MAY BE LOOKING TO ACTUALLY BUY IN THIS DEPARTMENT RATHER THAN ANOTHER.THAT'S ALWAYS THAT MAKES SENSE. MY MAIN FOCUS. SO IT MAY END UP BEING 7 OR 8 NEW ONES FOR THEM.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT WE CAN COME OFF OF. THAT MAKES SENSE. GOT IT. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH.
SOFTWARE, TECHNOLOGY AND SUBSCRIPTION SHIFTS. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THAT WOULD BE 466 ON LINE ITEM NUMBERS THERE. SOFTWARE SUBSCRIPTIONS TAB FIVE LEXIPOL WHICH IS HOW WE GO INTO A SUITE FOR LEXIPOL. SO IT COVERS SOME OF THE TRAINING. IT COVERS THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND TRYING TO GET ALL OF THE RECORDS CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE ONE PARTICULAR CAN.
CAN YOU STOP ON THAT FOR JUST A MINUTE? BECAUSE IF IF I'M CORRECT AND I HOPE THAT I, THAT I AM IS THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU'RE REALLY ADDING. ALL YOUR OTHER SOFTWARE IS RENEWALS. SO THE ONLY THING YOU'RE ADDING IS $25,000 FOR LEXIPOL. SO CAN YOU STOP IN ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? LIKE WHAT IS THE NEED FOR THAT AND WHAT WOULD IT REALLY DO? AND HOW ARE YOU DOING IT NOW? RIGHT NOW? LEXIPOL. WE'RE BASICALLY JUST USING THAT FOR OUR POLICIES. SO THIS WOULD WOULD EXPAND THAT INTO, I THINK WE HAVE A TRAINING IN THERE TRAINING, POLICY MANAGEMENT, TRAINING RECORDS, AND QUARTERMASTER. SO KEEPING CONSOLIDATE ALL OUR RECORDS INTO ONE ONE PLATFORM. COMMISSIONER STACY, I THINK YOU SAID 25,000 FOR LEXIPOL. I THINK IT'S MORE LIKE 47,000. NO NO, NO. IN ADDITION, THEY ALREADY HAVE SOME SERVICES WITH THEM, RIGHT? AREN'T THE THREE AT THE TOP THE NEW ONE? I'M LOOKING AT THE SOFTWARE SUBSCRIPTIONS. THE HIGHLIGHTED SUBSCRIPTIONS ARE THE ONES THAT WILL GO AWAY. THOSE WERE THE ONES WE CURRENTLY USE. THOSE ARE GOING AWAY. WELL THOSE ARE WHAT WE CURRENTLY USE. THOSE WOULD BE ENCOMPASSED IN THE SUITE. OKAY, SO YOU'RE GOING FROM THE 47,000 THERE TO THE 73,002 LINES DOWN. YES, $50,154 FOR THE THE THREE THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED. AND WE'RE GOING TO THE 73, WHICH IS A 23,400 DIFFERENCE. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. BECAUSE I HAD IT AROUND THAT. I JUST RAN IT AT 25. SORRY, CAPTAIN. SO OKAY. I'M STILL TRYING TO DO THE MATH ALSO. SO RIGHT NOW, YOUR ACTUAL YEAR TO DATE ON YOUR SUBSCRIPTION, YOUR SOFTWARE, BECAUSE THIS IS ALL UNDER SOFTWARE SUBSCRIPTIONS, THERE'S BEEN SOME ACCOUNTING CHANGES TO THE SOFTWARE SUBSCRIPTIONS AS WELL, WHICH IS MAKING IT MORE CONFUSING BECAUSE IT'S SHOWING 50. THE ACTUAL YEAR TO DATE IS 56,730. YES. AND THEN WHEN IT GOES INTO THE NEW BUDGET, THEY MOVED SOME OF THAT AROUND. SO YOU CAN. SO IF YOU GO TO LIKE PAGE ONE OF THE SHERIFF, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS. WAS 67 AND NOW IT'S GOING TO 32. GOT IT. AND THEN THERE'S SOFTWARE GOING FROM 57 TO 93, 93 IN ALL OF THAT. OTHER THAN RENEWING SOFTWARE, THEY'RE ADDING 2020 $3,000 FOR THIS NEW PRODUCT. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST A LOT OF ACCOUNTING. THAT'S, THAT'S ONE NEW PRODUCT. SO IT DOES HAVE SOME INCREASES ON SOME SERVICES. I'M NOT SAYING THAT, BUT THIS IS THIS MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE IS THE ONLY THING NEW THAT I COULD SNIFF
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OUT OF ALL OF THAT ACCOUNTING, WHICH ISN'T ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KIND OF UPDATE HOW, HOW WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR SOFTWARES AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS. OKAY, SO THAT'S THE 10,000 255 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH, IT ENDS UP BEING RIGHT AROUND $23,000 INCREASE FOR THIS SOFTWARE. OKAY. EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST WITHIN MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS.OKAY. AND WE ALREADY HAVE THEIR PLATFORM IN PLACE. SO IT WOULD, IT'S JUST GOING IN ON THEIR CURRENT AGREEMENT. LITERALLY, IT'S THEM FLIPPING A SWITCH AND GIVING US SOME MODULES THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO. SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT LAUREN BROUGHT UP LAST WEEK, AND Y'ALL PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF LISTENING TO WHAT, 8 OR 9 HOURS OF COMMISSIONERS COURT LAST WEEK IS WHAT IS THE PEOPLE COST VERSUS THE TECHNOLOGY COST OF DOING SOME OF THESE THINGS IS WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU DIDN'T BUY THIS SOFTWARE? QUITE FRANKLY, IT WOULD BE MORE DIFFICULT TO TO TRACK SOME OF THESE THINGS, LIKE THE QUARTERMASTER AND THEN THE POLICIES, KEEPING UP WITH THE POLICIES, BECAUSE ONCE THERE'S A NEW, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S NEW STATE LAW OR LAW THAT COMES OUT THAT AFFECTS THOSE POLICIES, THEY WILL THEY WILL ROLL OUT A NEW POLICY FOR US. SO JUST THE UPKEEP COST, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CURRENT ARE SOME OF THE MAIN REASONS WE WENT TO LEXIPOL TO START WITH. IT GIVES YOU MORE OF A BEST PRACTICES OPTION IN, IN DOING THOSE. NOW WITH THE THE TRAINING RECORDS, IT DOES THE WAY IT CONSOLIDATES THOSE. AND I THINK THOSE ARE MAINLY BEING DONE BY HAND NOW. SO IT PUTS THOSE IN. AND SO THE TRAINING COORDINATOR'S CAN LOOK AT THAT AND TELL IMMEDIATELY WHO NEEDS WHAT CLASSES, HOW MANY HOURS THEY NEED. SO IT IT DOES CREATE A BETTER EFFICIENCY FOR THEM.
AND THEN THEY CAN SPEND MORE TIME ON ACTUAL TRAINING. AND YOU HAVE TWO OFFICERS IN TRAINING. WE HAVE ONE FOR THE JAIL AND ONE FOR THE OPERATION SIDE. I KNOW THIS STUFF BECAUSE I HAVE TO FIND OFFICES FOR THEM IN THE REMODEL. I'M LIKE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THIS DEPARTMENT? SO SO I'M SAYING, SO THE ONLY WAY TO GET THAT FUNCTION WOULD BE TO HIRE A THIRD PERSON. THAT WOULD BE MORE CLERICAL STAFF DEDICATED TO TRAINING TO KEEP UP WITH TRAINING. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT WOULD BE YOUR ANSWER. YES, SIR, TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS WELL IS WE'RE TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE EVERYTHING INTO ONE LOCATION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HUNT FOR IT. WE DO HAVE TYLER, WHICH KEVIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THERE. I BELIEVE QUARTERMASTER IS IN TYLER, CORRECT. BUT IT'S VERY CUMBERSOME TO USE AND IT DOESN'T TRACK EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT TO TRACK. AND IF WE COULD TRACK BETTER OUR EQUIPMENT AND OUR UNIFORMS AND THE THINGS THAT ARE ISSUED, THEN I BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE BETTER OFF BECAUSE WE WON'T DUPLICATE SOME OF THE ORDERS. WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK WHO'S GOT WHAT, KEEP UP WITH OUR INVENTORY. SO IT'S A LOT BETTER. AND NOT TO PUT LIEUTENANT MANNING ON THE SPOT, BUT AS QUARTERMASTER JUST INCLUDED IN. MS. YES. SO IT WOULD IN THEORY, WE COULD TALK TO TYLER ABOUT REMOVING THAT IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY JUST INCLUDED. IT'S PROBABLY NOT EVEN AN ADD ON SERVICE. OKAY. THIS SOFTWARE ALSO HAS A MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR FLEET CRASHES FOR SOME OF THE FLEET THINGS THAT WE TRACK IN-HOUSE MANUALLY NOW, AND ALSO FOR DISCIPLINARIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATIONS. IT TRACKS ALL THESE OTHER THINGS TOO, THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT. IT'S NOT IT'S IT'S A, IT'S VERY MULTIFACETED, KIND OF SWEET, BUT IT AFFECTS ALL VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND HOW THEY TRACK THOSE RECORDS THROUGHOUT. BUT IT'S ONE CENTRAL LOCATION WHERE ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL BE, RATHER THAN IN FILING CABINETS OVER HERE AND A DATABASE OVER HERE. AND THEY'RE JUST KIND OF ALL OVER RIGHT NOW. SO, AND CORRECT ME, I'M GOING TO REPEAT BACK TO YOU HOW I'M SEEING A LOT OF THIS ASK IS YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, YOU'RE ASKING FOR RECORDS AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR SOFTWARE THAT DOES RECORDS. SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF SUPPORT. SO IT'S BASICALLY LIKE IT'S JUST A LOT OF CLERICAL, A LOT OF ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT IS WHAT THE BIG FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SEEMS TO BE IS IN ORDER TO DO THIS, WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR 2 OR 3 RECORDS CLERKS AND TWO ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS. AND THIS IS A WAY WE CAN SAY, HEY, WE CAN GET THIS DONE WITH THIS SOFTWARE. AND THEN AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AND A RECORDS CLERK. DON'T OVERLOOK THE HALF MILLION IN VEHICLES. I'M JUST TALKING PERSONNEL. PERSONNEL. CORRECT. SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT WOULD BE A FAIR ASSESSMENT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. THIS IS VERY CLERICAL, KEEPING THINGS LINED UP FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT. YES. OKAY. WELL, AND WE'VE HAD THE OFFLINE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE ABOUT UNFUNDED MANDATES. ALSO THE THINGS THAT ARE INCREASING, WHETHER IT'S IN TRAINING, YOU KNOW, BONDS, WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO KEEP UP WITH, WHERE THE
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CLERKS ARE KEEPING UP WITH THE DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT, THE SHIELDS, THE RADIOS, BODY ARMOR AND CAMERAS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS ALSO. SO THE MORE SOPHISTICATED THIS TECHNOLOGY BECOMES, WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE IT EFFICIENTLY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON LEXAPRO? YES, SIR. NO, NOT ON LEXAPRO. I'M JUST.BUT ON ON SOMETHING YOU SAID EARLIER. I'LL LET YOU FINISH. GO AHEAD. I'M GOING TO GO. OKAY.
CAMI, THE OTHER DAY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I THINK YOU SAID THAT THE CLERKS ARE THE SAME SALARY RANGES IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS EVERYWHERE ELSE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. NO, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE AT A HIGHER THEY'RE AT A HIGHER SCALE BECAUSE IT'S JUST AND THAT'S KIND OF OBVIOUSLY ASKING A QUESTION. THERE WAS A THE CLERK, I THINK THE RECORDS CLERK YOU HAD IN HERE, YOU HAD A $53,000 SALARY, AND I READ THE ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO. IT SEEMED RELATIVELY, YOU KNOW, BASIC AND EVERYBODY'S IMPORTANT.
RIGHT. BUT THIS IS ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, WHAT IS THE RANGE YOU'RE PUTTING THIS PERSON AT A PAY GRADE SIX, WHAT ARE THE CLERK RANGES THAT THIS WOULD MATCH TO? I'M I THOUGHT I OBVIOUSLY MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID LAST WEEK BECAUSE I THOUGHT LAST WEEK YOU SAID THEY WERE THE SAME. THEY'RE NOT. SO WHAT WOULD THIS MATCH TO. IS THIS THE VERY BASIC CLERK LEVEL OR IS THIS MULTIPLE STEPS UP OR WHAT IS IT? SURE. THANK YOU. SO LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE WE WERE DISCUSSING THE COMPENSATION STUDY. AND I FOUND FOR MANY YEARS LEADING UP UNTIL RECENTLY THAT THE SHERIFF'S CLERK CLERICAL SCALE WAS ABOVE THE NON SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS FAR AS OTHER COUNTIES IN THE. AND WHAT I WAS FINDING IN THE IN THE COMPENSATION STUDY NOW HERE IN ROCKWALL COUNTY, WE HAVE A NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT SALARY RANGE SCALE, AND THEN WE HAVE A PERFORMANCE PAY PLAN THAT'S FOR ALL OTHER ADMIN STAFF. BUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHICH INCLUDES ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS, DETENTIONS, AND THE INVESTIGATORS AND THE DA'S OFFICE, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PAY PLAN. AND ON THAT PAY PLAN, THE CLERKS IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEIR MINIMUM SALARY IS ABOUT 43,000, A LITTLE MORE. AND THEN THE NON SHERIFF'S OFFICE CLERK START OUT AT 37.851. OKAY. WELL THIS IS A JOB TITLE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. IS THAT LIKE THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE LIKE A CLERK, RIGHT? OR NOT? IT'S PROBABLY A STEP ABOVE A CLERK. I DON'T WELL, THERE'S PUTTING THEM IN AS A SENIOR CLERK AND NOT A, NOT A, AND NOT A BASS CLERK. SO THEY ARE REQUESTING ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AND A RECORDS CLERK. RIGHT. I'M LOOKING AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. IT SAYS THEIR DUTIES WILL TO ASSIST THE OPERATIONS OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF RESPONSIBLE FOR SCHEDULING APPOINTMENTS, MAINTAINING THE DAILY CALENDAR AND SCHEDULING OF THE CONFERENCE AND TRAINING ROOMS. THE POSITION WILL ASSIST WITH THE PREPARATION OF DOCUMENTS ENSUING, ENSURING PERTINENT INFORMATION. SOUNDS LIKE PRETTY BASIC KIND OF DUTIES AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING. IT SEEMED LIKE. OF ME AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE MORE LIKE A CLERK'S JOB AND. BUT IT'S BEING PAID SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN WHAT A CLERK WOULD BE PAID. I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THAT IS. IT'S TWO PAY GRADES ABOVE A STANDARD CLERK. OKAY, WELL, WHY IS IT? I WAS JUST LETTING YOU KNOW I FINALLY FOUND YOUR ANSWER. OH. NOW YOU CAN ASK WHY, RIGHT? YEAH. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RECORDS CLERK THAT CAMMY WAS JUST REFERRING TO, IT'S ABOUT A 7000 DIFFERENCE ALSO BETWEEN THOSE TWO. I'M LOOKING AT THAT. YEAH. AND AND AGAIN, I JUST READING THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S BEING DONE, IT DIDN'T IT SEEMED LIKE A FAIRLY ENTRY LEVEL POSITION, BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT. WELL, IT'S FOR THE IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT OR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. SO WOULD BE HANDLING A LOT OF THE INFORMATION, COORDINATING A LOT OF THOSE PHONE CALLS COMING IN
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INSTEAD OF BURNING DISPATCH WHERE THEY COME IN NOW, IT WOULD ALSO TAKE CARE OF ANY OF OUR SCHEDULING, PUTTING TOGETHER A LOT OF OUR STUFF HERE FROM FROM THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL, AS OPPOSED TO JUST PROCESSING PAPERWORK EVERY DAY. RIGHT? NO, I GET IT AGAIN, SEEMED TO ME LIKE PRETTY MUCH AN ENTRY LEVEL JOB, BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT. I DON'T WORK IN THE JAIL OR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SO I DON'T KNOW. BUT. JUST ASKING THE QUESTION, IT SEEMED LIKE A PRETTY ENTRY LEVEL JOB. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? THE NEXT ITEM ON SOFTWARE, TECHNOLOGY AND SUBSCRIPTIONS IS THE THIS. JEN 911. AND IT'S CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU'LL HEAR NEXT GEN, YOU'LL HEAR THIS. JEN, YOU'LL HEAR GUARDIAN PROBABLY TEN TIMES TODAY. AND THEY'RE ALL BASICALLY DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SOFTWARES. THE THIS GEN 911 IS A TRAINING SOFTWARE FOR DISPATCH. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE $5,000, RIGHT? CORRECT. JUST FOR THAT. SO IT WILL ALLOW OUR, OUR COMMUNICATIONS PERSONNEL TO, AS WE'RE DOING THE TRAINING WITH NEW AND THEN REOCCURRING TRAINING DURING THE YEAR. AND I'M REALLY SURPRISED WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING. I'M SURPRISED TICO HAS NOT PUT PUT MORE OF A TRAINING REQUIREMENTS ON COMMUNICATION PERSONNEL. AND NOW THAT I SAY THAT OUT LOUD, I HOPE NO ONE FROM TICO IS LISTENING. SO. RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT A CURRENT TRAINING SOFTWARE THAT THEY THEY CAN GO TO ON THAT. AND SO WHEN WE'RE TRAINING, IF THEY DON'T RECEIVE IN THEIR TRAINING A SPECIFIC TYPE OF CALL, IT'S HARD TO RECREATE THAT. SO THIS WOULD WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRAIN AND TO EVALUATE ON A REGULAR BASIS WHAT KIND OF CALLS ARE GETTING AND HOW THEY'RE RESPONDING TO THOSE. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANY OF THAT WORK? MY, MY SON DOES THAT FOR CHIROPRACTOR SCHOOL WHERE THEY SET UP AI, AND HE HAS TO TALK TO THE AI LIKE AS A FAKE APPOINTMENT. AND THEN THEY EVALUATE, DID YOU ASK ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS? DID YOU GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION? IT'S VERY FASCINATING. SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN TRAINING ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY COOL. CAN I GET HIS NUMBER? THE NEXT ONE IS THE THE GUARDIAN SOFTWARE. THIS IS THE VETTING SOFTWARE. SO THIS IS BASICALLY EXPANDING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE TO BE USED BY THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATORS. SO THAT'S AN INCREASE OF $500 TO OUR CURRENT SUBSCRIPTION ON THAT 5000. YEAH. I'LL SAY 500.AND THEN THE POWER TIME DMS IS A CONTINUATION AND SHIFT BID SOFTWARE WHERE WE KEEP UP WITH PERSONNEL ON A DAILY BASIS AT A COST OF TEN. 255 AND THAT IS AN INCREASE FROM 9668 9668. SO IT'S JUST A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THEIR SUBSCRIPTION FEES. NEXT IS DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS. LINE ITEM 481. SO BRIGHT TAB 6-1. CURRENTLY WE HAVE THIS TECHNOLOGY AND THAT IS WHAT WE USE FOR INVESTIGATIVE ON. THERE'S AN INCREASE IN WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING. SO IT GOES FROM 8800 TO 12 850. AND THAT THAT IS FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF INVESTIGATIVE BREAKS ON PHONES.
SO IF WE GET 50, THIS IS 21, 850, 21, 650 OR 6. THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO THOUGH, RIGHT? 216 I THINK THAT'S THE INCREASE, THE INCREASE OF. 12. 850 IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. OH, THAT'S FOR THE 44. IT'S BASICALLY GOING FROM 8800 TO 2160. THAT'S THAT'S FOR THE 40 PHONE BREAKS FOR AN EXTRA $12,000. SO TO THE 25 FOR 90, CORRECT? YES. IT GOES FROM 8800 TO 21 650. WHO DOES THAT FOR US? THE PHONE DUMPS WHO'S WELL WITH THIS SOFTWARE? WE DO. AND IF THERE IF THERE ARE ANY THAT ARE MORE COMPLICATED, WE CAN UNLIMITED BASIS USE SOME OF THE OTHER AGENCIES. GOT IT, GOT IT. BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO DO THE PHONE DUMP OR WELL, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THIS TOOL. WE HAVE THIS SOFTWARE. THERE'S AN INCREASE IN WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING FOR IT. GOT IT. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S A VITALLY IMPORTANT PART OF OF
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INVESTIGATING AND ONLY GOING TO GET MORE IMPORTANT. AND, AND WITH OUR, OUR TECHNOLOGY DUMPS INCREASE IN NUMBER OF WARRANTS THROUGH NATIONAL CENTER FOR MISSING AND EXPLOITED CHILDREN THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY INCREASING MORE THAN WHAT WE WOULD LIKE. RIGHT. CAPITAL LEASE FOR MOTOROLA CAMERA SYSTEM THAT IS ON ITEM 825. CAPITAL. THAT IS AN INCREASE FIVE YEAR C CURRENT. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN YEAR TWO OF A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT. AND THE UPCOMING PAYMENT, WHICH THE. THIS YEAR'S PAYMENT WAS 174. SO THE SECOND YEAR PAYMENT WILL BE THE. 238. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE KNEW GOING INTO THIS AGREEMENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO LEVEL OUT TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS. WELL, IT'S A FIVE YEAR. SO WE GET FIRST YEAR WAS 174,000. AND THEN YEARS TWO THROUGH FIVE ARE 238,000. AND THEN THE TASER LEASE AGREEMENT.I KNOW COMMISSIONER LICHTY, YOU ASKED ME ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY. THIS IS CURRENTLY WE'RE IN YEAR FIVE OF THE FIVE YEAR LEASE. AND THE FINAL PAYMENTS THAT'S DUE IS 54551. AND. THE SAVINGS IS 12000 PER YEAR WITH THE DISCOUNT THAT THEY'RE GIVING US FOR, FOR THIS YEAR, FOR NEXT YEAR, FOR EVERY YEAR FOR DOING THE FIVE YEAR. YEAH, FOR THE, FOR THE FIVE YEAR. SO THAT'S WHAT WE SAVE THE 12000 PER YEAR FOR DOING THE FIVE YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT. DO WE ANTICIPATE DOING ANOTHER FIVE YEAR? WELL, AFTER THIS YEAR, WE WILL MOVE MOVE IN. IF WE MOVE INTO THE NEXT FIVE YEAR, THERE WILL BE NEW THEY'LL TAKE THE EQUIPMENT BACK, THEY'LL ISSUE NEW EQUIPMENT. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER LICHTY ASKED ME ABOUT IS BASICALLY THE ADVANTAGES OF THE LEASE AS FAR AS PURCHASING. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY SELL THE ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY. SO WITH THE LEASE, IF WE HAVE ONE THAT'S DAMAGED OR NO LONGER SERVICEABLE, WE TURN IT IN, THEY GIVE US A NEW ONE. GOT IT. SO WHEN WE SIGN THE NEW LEASE, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET NEW TASERS, NEW TASERS, BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY HAS INCREASED. SO IT'LL GO TO THE NEXT VERSION. OKAY. DOES SOMEBODY ELSE SELL TASERS? THERE'S ONLY ONE TASER COMPANY. IT'S AN AXON PRODUCT. SO THERE'S ONE. THERE ARE OTHER FORMS OF LIVER LETHAL. BUT TASER IS THE ONLY PRODUCT THAT DOES WHAT TASERS DO. SO THEY ARE A MONOPOLY. THE BENEFIT OF DOING THE LEASE ALSO IS THAT THEY SUPPLY US WITH THE CARTRIDGES THAT SHOOT THE PROBES OUT. THEY SUPPLY US WITH UNLIMITED CARTRIDGES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO RENEW TRAINING EVERY YEAR FOR EVERY OFFICER. THEY HAVE TO SHOOT MULTIPLE CARTRIDGES FOR THAT TRAINING EVERY YEAR. SO THEY PROVIDE ALL THOSE AS PART OF THE LEASE THAT COMES FREE WITH ALSO REPLACEMENT TASERS. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THAT TASER, WE SEND IT IN, THEY SEND US ONE BACK AND THEY REPLACE THOSE AS WE GO. WE DON'T PAY ANY MAINTENANCE FEES, WE DON'T PAY FOR CARTRIDGES OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE JUST COME WITH THE LEASE AND THAT INCLUDES THE CLOUD. DOWNLOAD TO CORRECT EVIDENCE, DOWNLOAD SOFTWARE UPDATES. YOU CAN SEE HOW LONG SOMEONE PULLED THE TRIGGER, HOW LONG, HOW MANY SHOTS THEY FIRED, HOW MANY TIMES THEY PULLED THE TRIGGER. IF A USE OF FORCE INCIDENT COMES INTO PLAY. SO REALLY THE ONLY QUESTION IS DO YOU WANT A TASER OR NOT? AND CAN YOU AFFORD IT? THERE'S REALLY THE TWO QUESTIONS AND THERE ARE LIKE $965 PER YEAR PER TASER. WHAT DOES A GUN COST? JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY. I WANT TO SEE HOW EACH OF YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WHAT DOES IT COST? YEAH. YOU WERE FROM PROBABLY 800 TO $1200. YEAH. THIS IS WHAT THIS IS WHAT MAKES ME THINK. TERRY. SO BECAUSE YOU BUY A GUN AND THAT'S ABOUT WHAT I'D EXPECT TO PAY FOR ONE THAT LASTS FOR SEVERAL YEARS, RIGHT? FOR YEARS. AND SO IT'S LIKE YOU'RE BUYING A NEW WEAPON EVERY YEAR WITH THIS TASER THERE RATHER THAN GETTING. THAT'S WHY I ASKED, IS THERE SOME WAY WE CAN BUY THESE? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE PAYING $965, I THINK IS WHAT IT WAS THE ANNUAL TASER LEASE. THAT MEANS COMPARED TO A GUN, YOU'RE BUYING A NEW ONE EVERY YEAR.
AND MAYBE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE TECHNOLOGY IN THERE THAN THAN WHAT IS ON A PISTOL. ALSO IN THE MAINTENANCE. WELL, SURE, I GET THAT. AND YOU GOT THE I MEAN, I YOU JUST DESCRIBED THE CLOUD REPORTING AND THE FREE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR
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BULLETS. THEY GIVE YOU THOSE FREE LITTLE STINGERS. RIGHT. INTERESTING. OKAY. THANKS.NOBODY LIKES TO BE SHOT WITH A TASER, BUT NOBODY LIKES TO GET SHOT WITH A BULLET EITHER. NO, I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH THAT. THE. NO. IT JUST SEEMS CRAZY, THOUGH, THAT YOU GOT TO BASICALLY BUY A NEW ONE EVERY YEAR. AND I GUARANTEE YOU, WHEN OUR FIVE YEAR DEALS UP, THE PRICE WILL GO UP. SO IT'S JUST THE WAY OF THE WORLD ANYWAY. OKAY, THANKS. AND THEN THE LAST THING ON THIS IS MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS DECREASING FROM 67,000 TO 32 632268 REDUCTION OF 34,000 BECAUSE OF PHASING OUT THE MOTOROLA AND VIGILANT EXPENSES, BODY WORN CAMERA WARRANTIES ARE GOING AWAY. ALSO IN CAMERA AND BODY WORN CAMERA LICENSING FEES ARE GOING AWAY.
OLDER CAMERAS ARE BEING REPURPOSED THROUGH THE JAIL, SO. WE CAN DIG INTO ANY OF THAT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS? NO. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION OFFICER. IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, THERE'S TECHNICALLY ONE UNFUNDED OFFICER. ARE YOU ASKING US TO FUND THAT OFFICER? ARE YOU ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER ON TOP OF THE UNFUNDED TO FUND THE REQUESTED OFFICER? OKAY. THE ONE THE ONE UNFUNDED TO TURN IT INTO A FUNDED POSITION. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT THAT ONE THAT THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING TO FUND? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING SB 22 OR WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE SB 22. IF WE'RE USING THAT FOR EQUIPMENT, THEN SB 22 WOULD BE FUNDED OUT. YEAH. GOT IT. OKAY.
BUT THAT'S WITH COMMUNICATION. JUST REMEMBER THAT WE'RE WE ARE GETTING REIMBURSED. I WOULDN'T CALL IT REIMBURSED, BUT THERE ARE CONTRACTS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH FATE. ROY CITY.
THERE'S MONEY FOR DISPATCHING. COMMISSIONER LICHTY JUST GOING BACK TO THAT ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT REAL QUICK I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW SHE IS GOING TO BE OR HE WOULD BE MORE PUBLIC FACING. AND THAT PAY GRADE THAT WE CAME UP WITH, I MEAN, THAT IS NEGOTIABLE. I MEAN, IT'S NOT FIXED. SO YEAH. AND. I JUST READ THE DESCRIPTION OF THE JOB DUTIES.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND THEY SEEMED PRETTY MUCH ENTRY LEVEL STUFF. SO IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN SAVE MONEY, LET'S SAVE MONEY, RIGHT. OKAY. THAT IS ONE THAT WAS IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BACK IN 2021. SO BUT NOT NOT FUNDED WELL OVER THOSE FIVE YEARS, THEN THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE GOT SO MUCH MORE EXPERIENCE THAT PROBABLY MADE UP FOR IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF? NONE. ALL RIGHT. AND WE'RE WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CALL US OR. JUST IN REGARDS TO THE STEP PROGRAM, THIS IS ALL IN LINE WITH WHAT WE APPROVED TWO YEARS AGO AND THEN HAS BEEN VETTED WITH THE HR DEPARTMENT AS WELL FOR THE STEPS THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED. OKAY. I DO HAVE ONE BRIEF COMMENT ABOUT THE POLICY MESSAGING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE PAYROLL ADMINISTRATOR, THE STATEMENT OF THE LUMP SUM PAYMENTS WILL BE ISSUED NO LATER THAN THE FIRST MONDAY IN OCTOBER OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, AND WILL BE ISSUED INDEPENDENT OF THE DEPUTY'S BIWEEKLY COMPENSATION SCHEDULE. SHE'S GIVEN ME A COUPLE OF OPTIONS I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ALL, BUT I. I THINK ONE OF THEM Y'ALL WOULD LIKE THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THERE LAST YEAR AS WELL. BUT THE THE TREASURER DID WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AND THAT IT'S FINE. IT WORKED OUT SO WELL. I THINK ALL THE OCTOBER.
YEAH. SALARY ADJUSTMENTS TAKE ALL OF OUR TIME. BUT I THINK SHE'S GIVEN ME ANOTHER OPTION THAT I THINK MIGHT. SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU. YOU DIDN'T TOUCH ON IT TERRY, BUT I BELIEVED I SAW IN HERE. IS THIS A REQUEST? I THINK IT'S TITLED 2.6. IS THAT A REQUEST TO ADJUST THE STEP
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PLAN? THAT WAS LEFT IN THERE WHEN WE HAD THE NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT THE 2.4, THE DISCUSSIONS THAT ONE MEETING YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT? I REMEMBER THAT, YES, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT. THIS IS JUST A COMPARISON. FAIR ENOUGH. YEAH. YEAH, I TOOK IT THAT THAT WAS JUST DESCRIBING WHAT'S THERE. RIGHT. OKAY. GOOD. THANKS. IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE, WE WANT TO ROLL INTO DETENTION. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ON THE DETENTION SIDE. WE'LL COVER SOME OF THE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE. AND SOME OF THIS, AGAIN, IS INCREASE IN PRICING FROM OUR VENDORS. ONE OF THE REQUESTS ON PERSONNEL IS UPGRADING A POSITION TO THE TO THE GRADE OF LIEUTENANT. AND RESTORING THE SIX DETENTION OFFICERS THAT ARE FUNDED OR THAT ARE. THAT ARE NOT WERE NOT FUNDED THIS PAST YEAR. THERE'S BEEN A, YOU KNOW, AN INCREASE AGAIN, WITH THE COURTS, WITH WITH TRANSPORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE SUPERVISED EITHER AT THE JAIL. AND THEN WE HAVE WE HAVE A WHOLE SEPARATE FLOOR FOR THE JAIL THERE AT THE COURTHOUSE TO BE ABLE TO SUPERVISE ALSO. SO WE ARE IN NEED OF THOSE SIX POSITIONS THAT WERE FROZEN. SHERIFF. YES. SO THE THE LIEUTENANT POSITION THAT WE'RE CREATING, WE DID A SALARY SURVEY. AND ONE OF THE FINDINGS THAT THAT WE FOUND WAS ESSENTIALLY OUR OUR MID-LEVEL SUPERVISORS AT THE DETENTION OFFICE WERE UNDERPAID. THIS THE JAIL SERGEANTS, THE JAIL SERGEANTS WERE UNDERPAID COMPARED TO THEIR COUNTERPARTS IN OUR SISTER COUNTIES. IT IS THAT RECTIFIED ANYWHERE IN THIS BUDGET, OR ARE YOU WAITING FOR US TO TO RECTIFY THAT? AND THE REASON I ASK THIS LIEUTENANT POSITION, SOMETIMES CREATING A POSITION WHERE SOMEBODY CAN MOVE UP ACTUALLY SOLVES THAT PROBLEM FOR US. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THIS IS THIS IS A BETTER CONTINUITY OF SUPERVISION.RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE LIEUTENANTS AND THEY ARE ASSIGNED TO DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS IN THE JAIL. SO THIS GIVES US A BETTER CONTINUITY OF SUPERVISION FOR ACTUALLY FOR THE FOR THE FLOOR STAFF FOR, FOR WEEKENDS AND FOR AFTER HOURS. OKAY. SO THIS IS OUTSIDE OF, OF SOLVING THAT VERY SPECIFIC PROBLEM THAT, OKAY, JUDGE, COULD YOU DEFINE UNDERPAID SO I CAN ATTEMPT TO. IT WAS, I BELIEVE WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS IF WE WERE WITHIN 90% OF THE AVERAGE OF OUR COMPARABLE COUNTIES, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BE BELOW 90% OF THE AVERAGE. YEAH. BECAUSE I RECALL MY RECOLLECTION, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A FEW OUTLIERS, BUT MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT MOST PEOPLE IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE DETENTION OFFICES WERE PAID OVER. AND THAT'S CORRECT. WITH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A VERY SPECIFIC LEVEL OF MANAGEMENT. YEAH. IT WAS IT WAS VERY STARK BECAUSE THEY WERE AT 72% ON THE PAY SCALE, ONE LEVEL, ONE LEVEL. SERGEANT, YOU'RE TALKING THE SERGEANTS AND THERE'S ROOM IN THE PAY SCALE WITHOUT REDOING THE PAY SCALE TO RECLASSIFY THEM AND GET THEM IN LINE WITH THEIR PEER COUNTIES. BUT BY AND LARGE, THE REPORT INDICATED THAT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT FOLKS WERE PAID VERY WELL, AND IN MOST CASES, OVER 100%. THAT IS CORRECT. OF WHAT OTHER COUNTIES GOT. YES. THANK YOU. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IN IN THE CORRECTIONS OR DETENTION PORTION? I THINK IT WAS PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE BOARD. OKAY. WE CAN LOOK AT THE STUDY AND SIT DOWN AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT WITH YOU. BUT I THINK IT IT VARIES BASED UPON POSITIONS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT STUDY SHOWED THOSE WERE THAT WE PAID PEOPLE VERY WELL. WELL, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE WHERE OUR MARKET IS. SO WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IN OPERATIONS, WE'RE WE'RE COMPARED WITH OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES IN OUR
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IMMEDIATE AREA FOR DOING THE ACTUAL DUTIES NOW WITH, WITH THE JAILS, YOU'RE BASICALLY ONLY COMPARING WITH OTHER COUNTIES BECAUSE CITIES DON'T RUN THEIR OWN JAILS. THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, MY, MY REASON FOR ASKING THE QUESTION IS JUST BASICALLY NEEDING TO KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO RECTIFY WITH THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE BUDGET? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S SOMETHING. WELL, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO RECTIFY THAT ISSUE WITH THE SERGEANTS, AM I RIGHT, COMMISSIONER STACY? THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE, BUT WE'LL WAIT FOR THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE BUDGET TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE THAT GOES. BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO DO SO. ALL RIGHT. SO THE THE PERSONNEL REQUEST YOU'RE ASKING FOR TO AS A PROPOSED DETENTION LIEUTENANT WOULD GO, WOULD BE AN INCREASE, POSSIBLY OF SOMEWHERE AROUND 30,000. YES, MA'AM. 28642, I BELIEVE, IS THE NUMBER WE CAME UP WITH. OKAY. IT'S A BIG JUMP. AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM, OPERATIONAL FUNDING REQUEST FOOD. JUST INCREASE IN FOOD FROM 515, 515,000 TO 585. REQUESTED INCREASE OF 70,000 INMATE HEALTHCARE. TODD. YOU MAY CAN COVER THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN DETAIL THAN I COULD, BUT THE FISCAL FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET REQUEST OF 2,000,001 765 50. AND THAT'S FOR FOR HEALTH INMATE HEALTH. AND THAT'S SEPARATE FROM MENTAL HEALTH. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.THERE'S A COMBINATION INCLUDES TC HEALTH SERVICES, MEDICAL COSTS, POOL EXPENDITURE. SO MEDICAL COST, POOL EXPENDITURES. ANYTIME AN INMATE LEAVES THE FACILITY, THE HOSPITAL DETERMINES HOW MUCH THAT IS GOING TO COST WHEN THE SERVICES ARE RENDERED. LUCKILY WE DO.
ALL WE PAY IS BELOW MEDICAID COSTS. ALSO OUTPATIENT TREATMENT, SPECIALTY CARE, HOSPITAL SERVICES, PHARMACEUTICALS AND FORESIGHT AND THE FORESIGHT LAB AGREEMENT.
AND THAT'S THE THE WEARABLE THAT WE PUT ON INDIVIDUALS THAT THAT WE MAY NEED TO CONTINUOUSLY MONITOR. YES, SIR. GOT IT. BUT SO THE TC HEALTH DOES THE THE MENTAL HEALTH AS WELL. THEY HAVE SOME BUT NOT ALL WE HAVE. WE HAVE OUR OWN. WITH KELLY AIKEN. SHE RUNS MOST OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE TC HEALTH IS THAT THE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDER IN THE FACILITY. GOT IT. AND SO THEY THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE. AND KELLY AIKEN, I THINK, IS ASKING FOR A SLIGHT INCREASE. YEAH, IT'S NOT VERY MUCH. YEAH, NOT VERY MUCH. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO AS I'M READING THROUGH THE JUSTIFICATION AND THIS IS MORE OF A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION, I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 13 OF 38.
THE ADDITION OF ON SITE PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES SUPPORTS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO IMPROVE INMATE MENTAL HEALTH OUTCOMES AND ADDRESS THE RISING NUMBER OF INMATES FOUND INCOMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL, WHICH INCREASED FROM ONE INMATE IN 2020 TO 15 INMATES IN 2024 WHO STATUTORILY AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, SO DON'T THINK IT'S A LEADING QUESTION. WHOSE JOB IS IT TO RESTORE COMPETENCY IF AN INMATE IS FOUND INCOMPETENT? DO WE HAVE A DUTY TO ATTEMPT TO RESTORE THEM TO A COMPETENT STATE, OR ARE WE AT THAT POINT JUST HOUSING THEM UNTIL THE STATE CAN COME GET THEM? WELL, WHAT'S OUR WHAT'S OUR DUTIES THERE? WELL, THERE'S TWO WAYS TO GO AFTER IT. ONCE THE JUDGE FINDS THAT INDIVIDUAL INCOMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL, THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS IN LIKE TWO YEARS AGO CAME UP WITH A JAIL BASED RESTORATION PROJECT.
AND IF WE CAN GET THAT INDIVIDUAL TO VOLUNTARILY TAKE HIS MEDICATION, SOME ASPECTS, IF THE JUDGE ORDERS FORCED MEDICATION, WE CAN DO OR ATTEMPT THAT RESTORATION INSIDE THE JAIL. WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESSES IN THE PAST WHERE WE HAD INDIVIDUALS WHO VOLUNTARILY TOOK THE MEDICATION, BECAUSE I CAN'T FORCE THEM TO TAKE IT UNLESS I HAVE A JUDGE'S ORDER, AND WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN RESTORING THAT INDIVIDUAL INSIDE THE JAIL, WHICH REDUCED THE COST TO US AND THE STATE, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THAT PERSON RESTORED QUICKER THAN
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WAITING ALMOST SOMETIMES A YEAR TO A YEAR AND A HALF, WAITING FOR A BED AT THE STATE HOSPITAL, AND THEN WAITING FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL TO COME BACK. MAYBE 2 OR 3 MONTHS LATER. AND THE PROBLEM IS HE CAN CHOOSE NOT TO TAKE OR HE OR SHE CAN CHOOSE NOT TO TAKE THOSE MEDS AGAIN.AND WE START THE WHOLE PROCESS OVER, WHICH IS A FAMILIAR, FAMILIAR PROCESS. I'VE HAD 3 OR 4 INDIVIDUALS DECIDE WHEN THEY COME BACK. THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT AGAIN, AND GUESS WHAT? THEY DECOMPENSATE AGAIN. AND WE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. SO KIND OF READING THROUGH THAT, THE ANSWER IS IT'S NOT REALLY OUR RESPONSIBILITY OTHER THAN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEM COMPETENT, TO GET THEM INTO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND OUT OF OUR JAIL. YES, SIR. BECAUSE IF NOT, WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE'RE WAITING ON THE STATE. WE WE'RE LITERALLY WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO DIE IN A BED TO OPEN UP SOMEWHERE. DON'T DON'T SAY DIE IN JAIL AT THE SAME SENTENCE, PLEASE. NO, THAT WAS STATE STATE RUN FACILITIES.
WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LIKE I SAY, THAT WAS JUST A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING FUNDS HERE TO ATTEMPT TO TO SHORTEN THAT CYCLE AND TO GET THEM DEEMED COMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DO HAVE A MOTIVATION TO DO THAT, EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO DO IT. AND WE'RE DOING NOT ONLY WITH MEDICATION, BUT WITH SOME OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, THE PROJECT HOPE AND THEN THE, THE NEW ONE THAT WE JUST CONTRACTED WITH AND TRYING TO, TO DO THOSE THINGS IN-HOUSE, THAT HELPS THAT COMPETENCY, HELPS GET THEM BACK ON TRACK, ALSO SOLVES OR HELPS TO SOLVE THE RECIDIVISM PROBLEM AS WELL. SO. WERE YOU AWARE THAT IF YOU GO TO YELP AND SEARCH FOR FUN THINGS TO DO IN ROCKWALL COUNTY, THAT THE DETENTION CENTER IS NUMBER 19 ON THE FUN THINGS TO DO IN ROCKWALL COUNTY? WOW. WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING TO GET THAT UP THERE. YEAH, I MEAN, GO READ THE COMMENTS. THEY'RE THEY'RE WORTH READING. BUT YEAH, WE, WE, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO GET THAT OFF THE LIST. I DIDN'T MEAN TO THROW A MAKE THE WHEELS FLY OFF. I JUST THOUGHT WE'RE ALL GOING TO GO TO YELP AND READ IT. WE DON'T HAVE MANY RESERVATIONS, BUT NO SIR. SO AS PART OF THAT TC HEALTH, WE WERE ASKING FOR EIGHT HOURS OF PSYCHIATRIC CARE BUILT INTO THE TC HEALTH CONTRACT SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO START MANAGING THOSE INMATES THAT THAT NEED MORE ASSISTANCE THAN THE OTHER ONES. SO TO TRY TO GET THEM ALONG IN THEIR COURT SYSTEM. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM, ANNUAL AGREEMENTS AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. TODD MENTIONED ABOUT THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AGREEMENT APPROXIMATELY 66,000 ANNUALLY.
I THINK THAT WAS THAT'S GO ALONG WITH WHAT WE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING THE FOUR SITES LAB, OVERWATCH AND OPTIC GUARD $35,075. EXISTING ENHANCED AGREEMENT. AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT DOES THE MOVEMENTS. RIGHT. AND SO FOR ONES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, LESS ACTIVE. WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON SHERIFF. THAT I DON'T HAVE THE PAGE. WE'RE LOOKING AT 15 OF 38. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE MAYBE IN A DIFFERENT ORDER THAN YOU OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE WE'VE WE'VE SKIPPED OVER MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS. YEAH. WHAT HE'S LOOKING AT IS A SUMMARY. WE PROVIDE IT TO THE SHERIFF JUST TO GO OVER THINGS WITH YOU. HE'S NOT ACTUALLY IN THE BOOK AT THIS MOMENT. IT'S PAGE 15. YOU'RE TRICKING US BY DESIGN. NO, NO, WE PUT PAGE NUMBERS ON THERE THIS YEAR, SO IT'S WORKED OUT WELL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION. IT HELPS. SO I YEAH. WHAT WAS THE FIRST DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT YOU SAID? BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING THAT ON YOUR PAGE 15 OF 38. SO. WHAT WAS THE LAST NUMBER YOU GAVE? IT'S SECOND. SECOND TO THE LAST FOR SITE LABS? OVERWATCH. YES, ON 15 TO 38. IF YOU LOOK DOWN THERE, RIGHT ON THE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, IT SAYS SPREADSHEET DOWN THERE AT THE
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BOTTOM. FY 27 BUDGET 33075 I SEE THAT ONE. I THOUGHT YOU SAID 60. OH YEAH, HE DID SAY 60.THAT'S THAT'S FOR THE. KELLY AIKEN CONTRACT. IT'S NOT ON THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE CONTRACTS WHICH ARE GOING TO BE LATER ON IN THE PROGRAM. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT MONEY SCANNER. YES, SIR. WHAT IS THAT. THAT IS THE MONEY THAT WHEN WE DO GET CASH IN FOR THE INDIVIDUALS, THE SCANNER MAKES SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT COUNTERFEIT. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE THAT SIMPLE, BUT THEN I THOUGHT, MAN, MAYBE IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE EVIDENCE AND WE'LL CATCH THEM ALL THE TIME. GOT IT? GOT IT. I HAVE A QUESTION. JUST JUST FOR CLARITY. I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT, BUT THE NUMBERS AREN'T MAKING SENSE IN MY HEAD. SO WE WE APPROVED A TRIAL A COUPLE OF COURTS AGO, 2 OR 3 COURTS AGO FOR THE CAMERAS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE THE BIOMETRIC CAMERAS THAT DO THE AI STUFF. AND THEN THAT HAD A TRIGGER THAT IF WE DON'T CANCEL IT, THAT THERE'S AN INCREASE THAT STARTS IN OCTOBER. BUT I'M NOT SEEING I'M ONLY THIS ONLY SHOWS ON THE BIOMETRIC. IT SAYS THAT IT WAS 258 IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. AND GOING TO 35075. IS THAT INCLUSIVE OF THAT PART OF THAT? YES. BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS LIKE MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT. NO, WE GOT THE THE WHAT WAS IT, THE CAMERAS FREE IN THIS OR NOT THE CAMERAS, BUT GOT TWO FREE. YEAH. SOFTWARE. SO NO, IT'S PART OF IT. FOR SOME REASON I THINK OF THAT NUMBER WAS CLOSER TO LIKE 15 OR 20 SOMETHING. FOR THREE CAMERAS. YEAH. THAT SO THEY ADJUSTED THE CONTRACT OFFERING. DID YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT SO THAT I'M NOT CRAZY BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER BEING THIS LOW. YEAH.
COMMISSIONER, DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO WALK THROUGH AND SEE THAT IN OPERATION? NO. NO SIR, I DID NOT. NO. OKAY. I DON'T LIKE BEING SCANNED. THAT IS. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IT LAST TIME ABOUT THE THE SOFTWARE AND DON'T DON'T SPEND THE MONEY IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS BENEFICIAL. AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO BELIEVE IS VERY BENEFICIAL.
SO NO, I'D LOVE TO COME OVER AND DO A TOUR, BUT THE FOUR SITES LAB IS THAT SAME FOR AI TYPE CAMERA. AND THAT IS WHAT THE CONTRACT IS. THE 35075 YES. OKAY. YEAH. THE OVERWATCH IS, IS THE WEARABLES, RIGHT. AND THE OPTIC GUARD IS THE CAMERA SYSTEM WITH THE AI COMPONENT IN IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU COME OVER, WILL YOU GIVE US A YELP REVIEW? YEAH. PUT YOUR NUMBER ONE. THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO START TELLING EVERYBODY WHEN YOU RELEASE THEM HOW YOU WOULD LIKE A FIVE STAR REVIEW. PLEASE DON'T. AND THEN THE EXTENDED WARRANTIES ON THE X-RAY MACHINES, WHICH WE HAVE TWO THE BODY SCANNER AND THEN THE BADGE SCANNER IN THE FRONT.
IF YOU NOTICE, THERE WAS ONE IN THE OPERATION SIDE ALSO AT THE COURTHOUSE, THE BADGE SCANNER.
BUT THIS IS FOR THE DETENTION AREA. SO THIS IS AN EXTENDED WARRANTY SINCE THERE. SINCE THERE GOING OUT OF WARRANTY THIS NEXT YEAR. SO THIS WILL EXTEND THAT WARRANTY. HOW LONG WILL IT EXTEND IT. IS THAT JUST A YEAR. FIVE YEAR, FIVE YEARS ONE GOOD THREE THREE YEAR. OKAY.
OKAY. AND THEN THE OSS ACADEMY LEARNING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM RENEWAL OF THAT SUBSCRIPTION FOR OUR IN-HOUSE TRAINING. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE GUARDIAN RFID SYSTEM RENEWAL FOR 24596.
CAPITAL. OKAY. THE WE TALKED ALSO ABOUT SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY CAPITAL REQUESTS, THE COMPUTER REPLACEMENT PROJECTS. AND I THINK WE'RE STILL WE'RE DEALING WITH IT ON SOME OF THAT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. I THINK WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD. 19 ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED FROM IT. THE THE COMPUTERS, THE COMPUTERS ACTUALLY I BELIEVE IT'S I BELIEVE IT'S 20 THIS YEAR AND THEN 20 NEXT YEAR. I THINK THERE WERE 40 THAT WERE ON THE LIST TO BE REPLACED. IS THAT RIGHT, KEVIN? AND THIS IS THE IT SCHEDULE. YES. AND SO THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION. BUY
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IT. GOT IT. AND WE JUST WANTED TO BREAK UP THE COST. SO IT WASN'T SUCH A BIG IMPACT IN ONE YEAR. YES. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH. WELL I DO HAVE A QUESTION KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OFF TOPIC. SO WE'RE WE'RE BACKING UP AND KIND OF ATTEMPTING TO REIMAGINE MAGISTRATE AND KIND OF JUST HAVING HIGH LEVEL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MAYBE BRINGING IN A JUDGE THAT JUST DOES MAGISTRATE. OF COURSE, THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE A CLERK AND POSSIBLY EVEN ANOTHER ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER. WHAT WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON THAT? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON HAVING A MAGISTRATE MAGISTRATE JUDGE? THAT PRETTY MUCH IS JUST AT THE JAIL. THAT'S THEIR JOB. WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? I THINK THAT WOULD ASSIST US IN A LOT OF A LOT OF ISSUES. MAYBE WE HAVE. I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN ONE, BECAUSE THAT INDIVIDUAL IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE WORKING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, ALL THE TIME. IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT. SO OTHER COUNTIES HAVE A FULL TIME JUDGE AND THEN WHEN THEY TAKE OFF THE JP'S THEN ROTATE IN TO TO FILL IN SO THEY CAN HAVE A FEW DAYS OFF AND THEN THEY'RE BACK TO FULL TIME. OKAY. BUT IT OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN'T WORK 24 HOURS A DAY. SO. RIGHT. I MEAN, IT WOULD OKAY, WHAT IT WOULD HELP US ON A DAILY BASIS IS THAT THAT JUDGE MAY BE DOING MAGISTRATE TWICE A DAY INSTEAD OF ONCE A DAY. THAT KEEP US BETTER IN COMPLIANCE. WHEN IT CAME TO 24 HOUR AND 48 HOUR REQUIREMENTS BY JUDGES THAT HAVE TO SEE THESE INDIVIDUALS AND GET THEM OUT TO GET THEM OUT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE OR JUST TO SEE THEM. BUT IT ALSO IT HAS THE POTENTIAL OF REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN JAIL BECAUSE SOMEONE'S BEING HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAGISTRATE TWICE A DAY INSTEAD OF ONCE A DAY. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE FIGURES BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE IT YET. I MEAN, I MEAN, IT CAN WORK. OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE I SAID, WE'RE WE'RE EARLY ON IN REIMAGINING HOW HOW JUSTICE FLOWS. AND THAT'S AND I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM ACCEPTING THAT TO GET THESE INDIVIDUALS OUT. AND THAT HEAD COUNT FALLS UNDER THE DETENTION DIVISION. NO, NO, IT WOULDN'T. BUT THEY FOR ALL PURPOSES WOULD OFFICE THERE WOULD WOULD DO THEIR JOB THERE.SO THEY WOULD BE AT THE DETENTION CENTER MORE THAN ANY OTHER PLACE. WHERE WOULD THAT WHERE WOULD THAT POSITION OR IN OTHER, IN OTHER COUNTIES, WHERE DOES IT NORMALLY END UP HEAD COUNT WISE AS A MAGISTRATE? YEAH, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LIVES. OKAY, OKAY. MAYBE WE COULD PUT THEM IN THE BOND OFFICE. IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE THE, THE PROBLEM WOULD BE IS THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT THE BOND OFFICE PERSON OVERSEEING A MAGISTRATE. SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF WEIRD. I MEAN, TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE IN A DEPARTMENT THAT A DEPARTMENT HEAD ISN'T SUPERVISING, BUT THEIR CLERKS COULD BE IN THERE BECAUSE THERE COULD BE SOME SUPERVISION WITH THE CLERKS OVERFILL FROM THAT DEPARTMENT INTO. SO YOU CAN THEN HAVE THAT DEPARTMENT HELP BACKFILL SOME OF THE CLERICAL WORK AS WELL, SO THEY COULD SUPPORT THAT. BUT A MAGISTRATE WOULD PROBABLY END UP BEING A MAGISTRATE. YEAH, I PROBABLY. ANYWAY, YEAH, THAT'S, I REALIZE OFF TOPIC, BUT YOU GUYS WERE HERE, SO I WANTED TO AND WE HAVE THE SPACE IN THERE. SO OKAY. AND IT'S ONLY USED WHAT, AN HOUR A DAY? YES, SIR.
ALL RIGHT. BUT THERE'S ALSO THERE'S ALSO SPACE IN THE WHERE THE BOND OFFICE IS TO. THERE'S ANOTHER ANOTHER CUBICLE THAT CAN BE USED BY ANOTHER CLERK. AND THERE'S ANOTHER OFFICE FOR A MAGISTRATE JUDGE. HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK, IN AN AVERAGE DAY DOES DO THE JPS CURRENTLY SPEND THEIR MAGISTRATE? THAT DEPENDS ON THE JP YEAH, SOME CAN GET IN THERE AND GET IT DONE WITHIN AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF. SOME OTHERS SPEND 3 OR 4 HOURS. SO IT'S IT'S IT DEPENDS ON THE JUDGE. YEAH. INTERESTING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING DETENTION? OH WAIT. I'M SORRY. I JUST KEEP GOING DOWN THIS TRAIL NOW. YOU STARTED IT. I DID, I DID, I KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING, SO SOME DO IT IN AN HOUR A DAY AND SOME TAKES FOUR HOURS A DAY. AND IT'S ALL I. AND THAT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON CASELOAD AND ALL
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SORTS OF THINGS. GOT IT. SO IF WE HAD A FULL TIME MAGISTRATE THAT WORKED FIVE DAYS A WEEK, EIGHT HOURS A DAY. WOULD THAT PERSON BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE WORKLOAD? I WOULD, I WOULD THINK SO. BASED UPON WHAT YOU'VE SEEN. I MEAN, AGAIN, BASED UPON WHAT YOU SEE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, ON AVERAGE, WE WE THERE'S 11 PEOPLE BOOKED A DAY ON AVERAGE. AND, AND HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO RUN SOMEBODY THROUGH THAT PROCESS? IT DEPENDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL ALSO CHARGES SOME. YEAH. THE CHARGES. SURE. IT DEPENDS. IF THAT PERSON'S COOPERATE COOPERATES WITH THE PROCESS OR IS MORE DIFFICULT. SOME INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO BE DIFFICULT AND THEY DON'T GET TO SEE THE JUDGE THE NEXT. IN THE NEXT HOUR THEY MAY THAT MAY TAKE SEVEN HOURS BECAUSE THEY CAME IN INTOXICATED. SO THEY GOT TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE PROCESS SO THEY UNDERSTAND THE JUDGE THE NEXT DAY. OKAY. SO IT DEPENDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL. WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE THAT ARE ARRESTED ON SUNDAYS? DO WE DO ANY MAGISTRATE ON ON SUNDAYS? YES. OUR CHURCH SERVICES ON SUNDAYS. NO. I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S MAGISTRATES ON EVERY DAY. EVERY DAY. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE TO DO IT EVERY DAY? IT IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHEN SOMEONE HAS BEEN ARRESTED. SO FOR A CLASS C OR A MISDEMEANOR CASE, SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO BE SEEN WITHIN 20 WITHIN 24 HOURS. WAS IT 12 HOURS, 24 HOURS? AND THEN FOR FELONIES, THEY HAVE TO SEE WITHIN 48 HOURS. SO WE NOTIFY. THE JP'S EVERY TIME SOMEONE COMES IN THE BACK DOOR.SO THEY HAVE A TIME STAMP ON WHEN THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE THERE TO BE WITHIN THE 24 HOUR PERIOD. AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, SOME WE'VE GOTTEN INTO SOME TIMING ISSUES BEFORE WHERE AN AGENCY THAT MAY HAVE A HOLDING FACILITY, THEY WILL HOLD SOMEONE FOR, AND THEY BRING THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, BUT THEY'RE ONLY FOUR HOURS AWAY FROM BEING OVER THAT TIME PERIOD. WELL, BY THE TIME THE JUDGE, THE JP OR MAGISTRATE WOULD SEE THEM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY OVER THAT 48 HOUR TIME PERIOD. OKAY. SO BUT I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER TO MANAGE A POSITION LIKE THIS IF YOU HAD A DEDICATED PERSON AND WORKING WITH YOU GUYS TO IN THE SCHEDULING AND EVERYTHING, THAN TO HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT PEOPLE, WHICH CURRENTLY WE HAVE WHO ARE WORKING THEIR OWN SCHEDULES AND OBVIOUSLY DEALING WITH THEIR OWN LIFE EVENTS ALL THE TIME.
AND, AND WE DON'T MANAGE THEIR SCHEDULES. SO I'M ASSUMING WE WOULD MANAGE THE MAGISTRATE'S SCHEDULING. IT WOULD JUST BE WHATEVER THE TIME PERIOD WOULD BE. THAT WOULD BE THE MOST FOR THE MAGISTRATE. NOW THEY STILL HAVE THE PAPERWORK THEY HAVE TO DO AND THE BACKUP THAT WE PROVIDE THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE AND FILL OUT FOR, WHETHER IT'S IF IT'S FAMILY VIOLENCE, FOR EXAMPLE, NOTIFICATION OF VICTIMS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND I, I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T MANAGE THE SCHEDULE OF THE JP'S GET THAT, BUT I WOULD THINK YOU'D HAVE MORE INFLUENCE AND BE ABLE TO COME UP, HELP US CRAFT A BETTER SCHEDULING. IF IT WAS IN A POSITION THAT WAS WAS APPOINTED RATHER THAN AN ELECTED POSITION, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO BE RELYING UPON YOU GUYS AND YOUR EXPERTISE TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A SCHEDULE THAT WOULD WORK AND COMPLY WITH THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS TO THE BEST WE COULD. RIGHT. I MEAN, IT AGAIN, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS IS POSSIBLY A REALLY GOOD WAY TO GO. BUT ANYWAY, ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING DETENTION? IF NOT. JUDGE, I HAVE ONE THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THAT.
SIX THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REFUNDING OR ASKING TO BE REFUNDED THE. SIX DISPATCH OR THE SIX OFFICERS. OKAY. YEP. I'M WITH YOU. LIEUTENANT WAS GOING TO COME. WE WERE REQUESTING TO COME OUT OF THAT SIX. GOT IT, GOT IT. SO IT'S NOT SIX PLUS THE LIEUTENANT.
IT'S SIX. INCLUDING THE LIEUTENANT? YES, SIR. IT'S NOT AN OVERALL FTE INCREASE. GOT IT.
ALL RIGHT, WE JUST HAVE TO FUND IT. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL. SHOCKINGLY ENOUGH,
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.