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IT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT LATE. IT IS 114. WE WILL START OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP MEETING. WE'RE
[2. Discussion of FY2027 Budget, and all related issues; (Judge New)]
GOING TO PIVOT JUST A LITTLE BIT. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO COME UP HERE, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE SOME OF OUR COMMISSIONER COURT TIME TO OUR JUVENILE DETENTION. MR. BOBBY BODECKER. ALL RIGHT. MEREDITH IS HANDING OUT THE YOUR HANDOUTS HERE. OKAY, PERFECT.THERE SHE IS. HI, BOBBY. SORRY I'M LATE. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, WE JUST STARTED, SO WE HAD A COMMISSIONER THAT SPOKE AT ROTARY TODAY. HE MIGHT HAVE GONE OVER JUST A LITTLE. OH, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT AT ROTARY. OH, I KNOW, BUT DID THEY NOT TELL HIM THE RULES? YOU CANNOT GO OVER AT ROTARY SIT AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR KENNEDY CULPEPPER, WHO DIDN'T RUN QUITE AS TIGHT A MEETING AS SHE DID. OH, BOY, OH, BOY. OKAY. YOU'RE LISTENING. THAT WAS ME. ALL RIGHT, TAKE IT AWAY, BOBBY. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. I THINK AS EVERYONE HAVE THE THE HAND THEY DO I, I BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE MOST RECENT ONE YOU SENT ME THIS MORNING.
YES, YES, YES. IN A NUTSHELL, BECAUSE I DON'T YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT ME TO READ ALL THIS STUFF TO YOU LINE BY LINE, BUT ONE OF THE LINE ITEMS IN IN JUVENILE SERVICES BUDGET IS FOR RESIDENTIAL PLACEMENT OF JUVENILES. AND YOU'LL SEE AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE, IT SHOWS WHAT OUR LOCAL. THAT'S THE COUNTY VERSION, PART OF OUR BUDGET. WHAT THAT BUDGET WAS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. AND THEN BELOW THAT YOU'LL SEE THE THE STATE AID MONEY THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE AS PART OF A CONTRACT. AND THAT'S HOW MUCH THAT WAS BUDGETED TOWARDS RESIDENTIAL PLACEMENT AS WELL. SO THEN YOU SEE BELOW THAT WHAT THE TOTAL FIGURE IS FOR RESIDENTIAL PLACEMENT OF JUVENILES. AND. THAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT I BUDGETED FOR PLACEMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, YOU KNOW, WHILE YOU CAN'T PREDICT WHICH KIDS THAT COME INTO OUR SYSTEM ARE GOING TO NEED RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT, YOU CAN LOOK AT TRENDS OVER THE YEARS AND YOUR REFERRAL NUMBERS. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN I HAD BUDGETED LAST YEAR. AND THE REASON IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE ABOUT $300,000 MORE THAN, THAN IT WAS FROM THE LOCAL BUDGET LAST YEAR IS BECAUSE GOING INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD ABOUT 15 KIDS THAT WERE IN RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTERS RECEIVING SERVICES THAT WERE GOING TO CROSS OVER INTO FISCAL YEAR 26. SO I HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE KIDS. I HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN IN THAT TREATMENT CENTER, WHAT THE TYPICAL AVERAGE STAY FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THEIR TREATMENT IS.
AND THEN I CAN KIND OF LOOK AND, AND ADD UP, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO KIND OF COST ME IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR ANY NEW KIDS THAT COME INTO OUR SYSTEM IN FISCAL YEAR 26, WHICH IS THAT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT. BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT TRENDS. SO I GUESS BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I HAVE 18 KIDS RIGHT NOW, 18 JUVENILES THAT ARE IN RESIDENTIAL PLACEMENTS AND LOOKING AT THEIR AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY, WHEN I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD GET OUT, ASSUMING THAT THEY DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, WHICH ISN'T ALWAYS THE CASE. I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY THROUGH THE END OF THIS BUDGET YEAR IN ORDER TO PAY FOR ALL THOSE PLACEMENTS, AND THAT'S JUST THE KIDS THAT ARE IN PLACEMENT NOW, OR A COUPLE THAT ARE PENDING PLACEMENT, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY NEW YOUTH THAT COME INTO OUR SYSTEM, THAT MIGHT NEED RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT, OR ANY YOUTH THAT ARE ALREADY IN OUR SYSTEM THAT ARE ON PROBATION AT HOME, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT VIOLATE THEIR PROBATION, AND WE EXHAUST ALL RESOURCES AND AND CIRCUMSTANCES MIGHT DICTATE THAT THEY CAN NO LONGER
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BE MAINTAINED IN THEIR HOMES AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE KIDS WOULD BE. WE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO MAINTAIN THOSE CHILDREN IN THEIR HOMES, BUT SOME OF THE KIDS THAT ARE IN PLACEMENT NOW ARE KIDS THAT STARTED OFF PROBATION AT HOME AND EITHER COMMITTED NEW OFFENSES THAT WARRANTED THEM TO BE PLACED OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOME OR HAD TECHNICAL VIOLATIONS, SUCH AS FAILING AT TREATMENT THAT THEY WERE COURT ORDERED TO DO. THAT ALSO WARRANTED FOR THEM TO GO TO A RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTER. THAT'S KIND OF THE GIST OF IT. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER INFORMATION HERE THAT YOU GUYS MAY WANT TO LOOK AT. I WANTED TO SUPPLY YOU WITH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THAT WAY YOU CAN ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS THAT I HOPEFULLY CAN TRY TO ANSWER. SO I HAVE SEVERAL. ALL, ALL OF THE JUVENILES THAT WERE HANDLING, ARE THEY ALL ROCKWALL COUNTY RESIDENTS? YES. OKAY. SO THEY'RE ALL ABSOLUTELY. ALL OF THE HOMES ARE HERE. THE KIDS ARE FROM HERE. THE ONLY REASON I ASK THAT WE THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. KIND OF DISCOVERED PEOPLE SHOPPING FOR INDIGENT HEALTH CARE THAT ARE COMING FROM OUT OF COUNTY AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ALL KIDS THAT RESIDE IN ROCKWALL COUNTY. GOT IT. MY BUDGET SHEET TYPICALLY SHOWS LAST YEAR IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, FOR SOME REASON, THIS BUDGET SHEET DOESN'T. DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE SPENT LAST YEAR IN 2025 FOR RESIDENTIAL PLACEMENT RESIDENTIAL? YES I DO.SO TOTAL PLACEMENT EXPENDITURES FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR WERE ABOUT $900,000. THAT WAS BEFORE.
YOU'LL SEE SOME REFERENCES, SUCH AS MAYBE ON THE FIRST PAGE, TO A REGIONAL DIVERSION ALTERNATIVES GRANT, WHICH IS A TEXAS JUVENILE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT GRANT, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS RDA GRANTS. THAT WAS BEFORE SOME RE RDA REIMBURSEMENTS OF ABOUT $180,000 THAT WE GOT BACK. SO WHEN YOU SUBTRACT THAT 180, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO ABOUT $720,000 ALTOGETHER AFTER THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS. AND WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE ABOUT AT THAT $900,000 MARK. NOW, WE'RE STILL FOUR MONTHS OF PLACEMENT BILLING TO GO IN THE FISCAL YEAR. IN OTHER WORDS, THE KIDS THAT I GOT IN PLACEMENT RIGHT NOW, I'M GOING TO BE BILLED FOR JUNE, JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER. AND IF IT'S ANY, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT, FOR EXAMPLE. BILLING FOR THE MONTH OF MAY. WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT $155,000 FOR THOSE JUVENILES THAT ARE IN PLACEMENT RIGHT NOW. AND IS THAT TYPICAL HOW IT'S BILLED LIKE IN SIX MONTHS INCREMENTS? SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WENT OCTOBER TO MAY. I WENT, NO, IT'S NOT BUILT IN. NO, IT'S BILLED EVERY MONTH WE GET AN INVOICE. I'M SORRY THAT THAT MAY BE CONFUSING THE WAY THAT'S PRESENTED THERE. SO AROUND THE, YOU KNOW, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH, SIXTH OF EACH MONTH, WE WILL GET A BILL FOR THE PREVIOUS MONTH FROM ALL OF THOSE FACILITIES. AND WE'RE RUNNING ABOUT 40,000 NORTH OF 40,000 A MONTH. IS THAT ACCURATE OR. NO, NO, THE THE $40,000 FIGURE THAT YOU MAY SEE ON THAT FIRST PAGE THAT APPEARED TO BE HIGHLIGHTED IS THOSE ARE OUTSTANDING PLACEMENT INVOICES THAT WERE NOT SUBMITTED TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR THE THE LAST TIME, BUT THEY ARE STILL NEED TO BE PAID FOR KIDS THAT WERE IN FACILITIES DURING THE MONTH OF MAY. SO. THE. I'M SORRY. YEAH, I WAS I WAS OUT OF TOWN ON VACATION. I WASN'T ABLE TO APPROVE THOSE INVOICES. THEY DIDN'T COME IN UNTIL MUCH LATER THAN NORMAL. AND SO WE PLAN ON SUBMITTING THOSE FOR THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT. AND THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP ON THE STATEMENT OF EXPENSES RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PAID YET. I WANTED THAT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE SOME OF THE FIGURES THAT I'D GIVEN SAID THAT IT INCLUDED PLACEMENT EXPENDITURES FROM OCTOBER OF 25 THROUGH MAY OF 26, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE 41000 OF UNPAID INVOICES FROM SEVERAL PLACEMENTS THAT THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT. GOT IT. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE STATEMENT OF EXPENSES. AND AT LEAST MY SHEET DOES SHOWS NO MONTH TO DATE EXPENSES. AND IT SHOWS THAT IT SHOWS THE MILLION
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DOLLAR BUDGET AND SHOWS THE ACTUAL SPENT THE SAME THAT YOU HAVE ON THIS SHEET HERE, 663,779. WHICH HAS US TRACKING ABOUT RIGHT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW FAR WE ARE THROUGH THE BUDGET YEAR, I FOLLOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE I MEAN, WE'RE A LITTLE 73%. AND THEN IT SHOWS THAT I HAVE. YEAH, 33% LEFT. CORRECT. BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE SAFE TO ASSUME IF IT WEREN'T FOR WHAT I ALREADY KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE KIDS THAT ARE IN PLACEMENT. THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTERS JUST OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ADDING TO THOSE FORTHCOMING EXPENSES IN THE CURRENT EXPENSES. AND DO WE SEE THAT AS AN ANOMALY, OR IS THAT JUST A TREND AND GOING TO BE THE WAY OF THE FUTURE? OR IS THERE ANY WAY TO KNOW? I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I THINK THAT IF I LOOK AT THE PAST FEW YEARS, I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE NUMBER OF PLACEMENTS AND THE EXPENDITURES FOR THAT. THE REFERENCE THAT I MADE EARLIER TO THIS REGIONAL DIVERSION ALTERNATIVES GRANT FROM THE TEXAS JUVENILE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, IT'S MONEY THAT YOU CAN, LET'S SAY A CHILD NEEDS TO BE THE. YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT A CHILD NEEDS TO GO TO RESIDENTIAL PLACEMENT. IF THEY MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA. AND THERE'S. THERE'S A LOT OF CRITERIA. ONE OF THEM BEING THEY HAVE TO HAVE A FELONY ADJUDICATION. IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO BE COMMITTED TO THE TEXAS JUVENILE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, STATE FACILITIES, THEY RUN THEIR OWN STATE FACILITIES. BUT YOU CAN'T SEND KIDS THERE UNLESS THEY HAVE A FELONY ADJUDICATION. IF THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO BE COMMITTED TO TJJD AND THEY MEET OTHER CRITERIA, THEN YOU CAN APPLY AND ASK TJJD TO APPROVE ONE OF THESE REGIONAL DIVERSION ALTERNATIVES. DIVERSION, MEANING DIVERTING THEM FROM BEING COMMITTED TO TJJD AND PLACED EITHER IN THEIR COMMUNITY OR SOMEWHERE ELSE TO MEET THEIR NEEDS, A RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTER. BUT IF THEY ARE, YOU'RE ASKING TJJD TO APPROVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY. SO LET'S SAY IT WAS SIX MONTHS OR NINE MONTHS OR EVEN ONE YEAR WORTH OF PLACEMENT FOR THAT CHILD. THAT COULD BE UP TO LIKE $90,000 FOR SOME OF THESE KIDS. AND THEY'LL LOOK AT YOUR PARTICULAR CHILD, ASSUMING THEY MEET ALL THE CRITERIA, AND THEN IF THEY APPROVE IT, THEN THE COUNTY PAYS FOR THAT PLACEMENT MONTH TO MONTH. BUT THEN WE SUBMIT THOSE INVOICES TO TJJD, AND THEN THEY REIMBURSE US FOR THAT. ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED THIS YEAR IS WE'VE HAD LESS KIDS THAN IN YEARS PAST. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT I KIND OF BROKE THAT DOWN ON THE SECOND PAGE TOWARDS THE BOTTOM. WE'VE HAD LESS KIDS THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT WERE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE REGIONAL DIVERSION ALTERNATIVE GRANTS. A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE EITHER SOME OF THESE KIDS THAT WENT TO PLACEMENT HAD ONLY MISDEMEANOR ADJUDICATIONS, OR THE ONES THAT DID HAVE FELONIES, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS A AGGRAVATED ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON, OKAY, OR AN AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT OF A CHILD. THOSE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. BUT SOME OF THE OTHER CRITERIA SAYS THAT THE JUVENILE DEPARTMENT ALSO HAS TO SHOW THAT THEY'VE MADE EFFORTS TO, TO DO WITH THEIR OWN BUDGET THINGS TO TREAT THAT CHILD. IN OTHER WORDS, SEND THEM TO A FIRST PLACEMENT OR TRY THEM ON PROBATION AT HOME FIRST IF THEY'RE APPROPRIATE. SO IF THE JUVENILE DEPARTMENT HAS, IF THEY'RE ELIGIBLE, IF THEY HAVE A FELONY ADJUDICATION, WHICH A LOT OF OURS DID NOT. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IS IF YOU SEE, I NOTED HERE THAT LAST YEAR WE GOT ALMOST $180,000 WORTH OF REIMBURSEMENTS FOR FOR INDIVIDUAL YOUTH THAT I APPLIED FOR THOSE GRANTS THAT WERE ELIGIBLE AND APPROVED. WE GOT THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS. SO THAT BROUGHT OUR TOTAL PLACEMENT EXPENDITURES DOWN. AND IN THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, I ALSO HAD FOUR GRANTS THAT WERE APPROVED WITH SIMILAR REIMBURSEMENT SAVINGS. AND THEN THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, IN FISCAL 23, WE ACTUALLY HAD FIVE KIDS THAT WERE ELIGIBLE THAT WERE[00:15:03]
APPROVED TO WHERE WE GOT OVER $200,000 IN REIMBURSEMENTS. THIS YEAR, WE'VE HAD ONE JUVENILE THAT GOT A REGIONAL DIVERSION ALTERNATIVES GRANT AND ALL WE'RE GETTING BACK FOR HER, BECAUSE SHE ONLY SPENT THREE MONTHS IN PLACEMENT IS $33,000. SO THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT HAS ADVERSELY IMPACTED OUR PLACEMENT BUDGET. IN ADDITION TO HAVING PROBABLY ON AVERAGE, MAYBE 4 OR 5 KIDS AT THIS POINT IN THE YEAR. I LOOKED AT LAST YEAR, HOW MANY AT THIS POINT IN FISCAL YEAR TO DATE AND THEN HOW MANY THIS YEAR? AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE PLACED, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 4 OR 5 MORE KIDS BY THIS POINT THIS YEAR AS OPPOSED TO LAST YEAR.SO, SO OVERALL, MORE PLACEMENTS, LESS REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THE ONES THAT THAT DID HAVE TO GO KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE A PERFECT STORM OF WE'RE GETTING A HORRIBLE ANALOGY, BUT GETTING MORE KIDS NUMERICALLY, BUT THAT PLACEMENT THAT NEED PLACEMENT, BUT DON'T QUALIFY FOR STATE REIMBURSEMENT GRANTS. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A FELONY, MAINLY ADJUDICATION. OR IF THEY HAD A FELONY ADJUDICATION, LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A KID THAT IS CHARGED WITH AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT OF A CHILD AND THE VICTIM IS A SIBLING IN THE HOME, RIGHT? MOST OF THOSE KIDS ARE NOT GOING TO BE APPROPRIATE TO BE ON PROBATION AT HOME. SO YOU MIGHT RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, THEY GET ADJUDICATED, PLACED ON PROBATION, WHICH INCLUDES PLACEMENT OUTSIDE THEIR HOME.
THOSE KIDS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA, BECAUSE THE JUVENILE DEPARTMENT HASN'T DONE ANYTHING ON THEIR OWN TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES FOR THOSE KIDS. SO IF YOU HAVE A KID THAT WENT TO A RESIDENTIAL PLACEMENT RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, AND THEN THEY FAIL THERE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN THAT MIGHT BE A KID THAT IF THEY NEED TO GO TO ANOTHER PLACEMENT BECAUSE THEY STILL CAN'T GO HOME, THAT MIGHT BE SOMEONE THAT YOU COULD APPLY FOR THAT GRANT IF THEY MEET THE OTHER CRITERIA, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO DIVERT KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO TJ. DE OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR TJ. DE WITH THE FELONY ADJUDICATION, BUT THERE'S OTHER FACTORS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. I MEAN, THEY'RE LOOKING AT DO THEY MEET THIS AGE GROUP BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO LIMIT KIDS BETWEEN THE AGES OF 10 TO 14 THAT ARE GETTING COMMITTED TO TJ DE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND CERTAIN KIDS THAT MAYBE ARE WE HAVE TO DO THESE RISK ASSESSMENTS ON EVERY KID. THEY WANT THE LOW TO MEDIUM RISK KIDS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO SAY, LET'S DON'T SEND THOSE KIDS TO THE STATE FACILITIES. SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST FELONY ADJUDICATIONS AND IT TURNS TO LOOKING AT THEIR ELIGIBILITY. BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY IF THEY DON'T HAVE A FELONY ADJUDICATION, THEN THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE WHATSOEVER, REGARDLESS OF THEIR AGE AND RISK ASSESSMENT AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO WHAT ARE YOU PROJECTING FOR NEXT YEAR? WELL, WHAT I, WHAT I'VE, WHAT I'VE BUDGETED FOR NEXT YEAR IS THE SAME AMOUNT, THE SAME AMOUNT AS THE SAME AMOUNT AS FISCAL YEAR 26. SO $1 MILLION FROM OUR LOCAL BUDGET. AND THEN I HAVE NOT RECEIVED NOTICE FROM FROM THE STATE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE STATE AID IS GOING TO BE TO OUR COUNTY. BUT ONCE I DO THAT, THEN I IMAGINE I WILL PROBABLY BE ALLOCATING AROUND $200,000.
IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL PLACEMENT BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 THAT I DID FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND AND THAT'S BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GETTING WHEN JUDGE USED THE TERM ANOMALY, I MEAN, I YOU YOU COULD SAY THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT THIS AS AN ANOMALY. I DID IN TALKING WITH LISA AND DRAFTING THE JUVENILE BOARD APPROVES MY BUDGET. I HAVEN'T TAKEN IT TO THE BOARD YET. THAT HASN'T HAPPENED. SO THAT WE MAY MAKE CHANGES IN THAT BUDGET. BUT I ALSO, IN TALKING WITH HER BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WE'RE IN NOW, WE DID AN UNANTICIPATED EXPENSE LINE AS WELL AND PUT $100,000 IN THERE TO. IN CASE WE NEED IT.
FOR REASONS LIKE THIS, I CAN'T PREDICT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO WIND UP WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET, WITH THE MY FISCAL YEAR 27 DRAFT. RIGHT NOW, IF WE WIND UP IN THE SAME SITUATION, WE COULD COME WAY UNDER THAT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS. NOW, I DO HAVE A LOT OF KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN PLACEMENT CROSSING OVER INTO FISCAL YEAR 27, AND I ACCOUNTED FOR THOSE WHEN I CAME UP WITH WHAT I THOUGHT WE SHOULD BUDGET FOR
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NEXT YEAR. BUT AGAIN, THE THE UNKNOWN FACTOR IS, IS THE NEW KIDS THAT ARE COMING IN AND WHETHER ANY OF THOSE KIDS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR RDA GRANTS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I JUST CAN'T. I CAN YOU CAN'T EVEN. THAT'S NOT EVEN A TREND THAT I CAN STUDY TO, TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT'S DONE OVER THE YEARS, RIGHT? AND THE REASON I ASK IS OBVIOUSLY THIS IS UNANTICIPATED. AND WE GOT TO SCRAMBLE NOW TO FIGURE IT OUT. BUT IF WE EXPECT THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING AS A COUNTY, THESE NUMBERS WILL GROW. ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED IS THERE'S YOU POINTED OUT TWO LEGISLATIVE CHANGES WHICH HAVE ADVERSELY AFFECTED OUR ABILITY TO GET FUNDING FROM PARENTS REQUIRE PARENTS TO PAY, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT A LOT OF THINGS.YOU CAN BLAME THE ADVOCACY GROUPS FOR THAT A LOT, A LOT OF THINGS I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
RIGHT. BUT SO OUR, OUR RIGHTS TO GET REIMBURSEMENT FROM PARENTS IS GOING DOWN. I JUST WOULD WANT TO, AS MUCH AS DIFFICULT AS IT IS, IS TO PREDICT THAT WE WOULD TRY AND PREDICT A BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR SO THAT WE DON'T GET IN THIS SAME SITUATION NEXT YEAR. I'D RATHER BE A LITTLE BIT HIGH THAN LOW IF MY WAY OF THINKING I UNDERSTAND AND AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WILL DEFINITELY BE DISCUSSING WITH THE BOARD WHEN IT COMES TIME TO PRESENT THE BUDGET. I TURNED IN A DRAFT TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE. SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE THAT HAVE KIND OF COME TO REALIZATION IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THAT WE WON'T MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO THAT BUDGET AND DISCUSSING THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE HAVE THAT BOARD MEETING OVER MY BUDGET. AND AND TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER LICHTY, THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD EVEN UP IT SOME MORE. YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE DON'T USE IT, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE IT AND NOT NEED IT THAN TO RUN INTO A SITUATION LIKE THIS. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACCURATE OR NOT, BUT I DO, I DO UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC. I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO SAY. SO DIFFERING. I, I, I AM OKAY TRYING TO HIT IT EXACTLY ON THE PENNY, KNOWING WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
THAT'S WHAT I TRY TO DO EVERY YEAR. YEAH. AND, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SHORT. SO THAT KIND OF BRINGS ME TO THE MAGIC QUESTION. SO YOU SAY HERE, IF NO MORE YOUTH ARE SENT FOR PLACEMENT, WE COULD EXCEED THE BUDGET BY ABOUT 250. EXCUSE ME, 250,000. WELL, IT WOULD BE, I THINK, FOOLISH TO ASSUME NO MORE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE SENT FOR PLACEMENT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE KIDS. IS THERE ANY WAY TO PROJECT THAT AND JUST HAVE A. NO SIR. NO, NO, I, I CAN PREDICT THE ONES THAT ARE LIKE MAYBE SITTING IN A JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PLACE IT, BUT I HAVE FACTORED THOSE KIDS IN ALREADY. BUT NO, IT'S GOING TO BE NORTH OF 250. REALLY. IT COULD JUST BE THE CLOSER WE GET TO THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR, THE LESS THOSE KIDS MIGHT GO TO PLACEMENT THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE YET. RIGHT? LESS OF AN IMPACT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE BECAUSE THEY WILL BE SPENDING LESS TIME IN MONTHS OR DAYS IN PLACEMENT DURING THIS FISCAL YEAR. AS THE CLOSER WE GET THAN THE BETTER OFF WE ARE. BUT AGAIN, WE COULD HAVE A WAVE NEXT MONTH THAT I CAN'T PREDICT, THAT I CAN'T ANTICIPATE IT. I WISH I COULD, RIGHT? OKAY, JUDGE, I JUST WANTED A THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THE COUNTY TRANSFERS OVER TO THIS FUND. 15 WHICH IS THE JUVENILE SERVICES TOTAL BUDGET IS $1.7 MILLION ANNUALLY. LAST YEAR THEY GAVE YOU BACK $100,000 AND YOU USED IT FOR SOME FUNDING TOWARDS COUNTY INSURANCE FUND YOUR FUND 185. SO THIS I'M JUST TRYING TO BRING UP THE POINT THAT THERE HAS BEEN GIVE AND TAKE EACH YEAR THAT LAST YEAR, YOU GOT MONEY BACK. THIS YEAR, YOU MAY OWE SOME, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOUR CONTINGENCY FUND IS FOR IS THESE UNANTICIPATED EVENTS. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S AND THAT'S MY STANCE. AND I REALIZE EVERYBODY UP HERE MAY HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT STANCE, BUT MINE IS HAVE A HEALTHY CONTINGENCY. TRY TO HIT IT EXACT KNOWING WE MAY MISS, BUT THAT'S WHAT A CONTINGENCY IS FOR. WELL, AND I, I WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDED TO, TO THE JUDGE AND TO, TO BOBBY THAT WE WOULDN'T MAKE ANY MOVES FINANCIALLY UNTIL WE GET AS CLOSE TO THE END AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT WE DON'T HIT IT TOO HIGH OR TOO LOW. WE JUST GO
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STRAIGHT IN WHAT WE NEED TO FIX IT. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO PAY THE BILLS. BUT I, I THINK BOBBY'S DONE WELL BY SEEING A PROJECTED SHORTFALL. AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE TIME TO BRING THAT TO THE COURT IS WHEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE A SHORTFALL THE FURTHER OUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO GET DOING A FIRST DRAFT OF THE BUDGET AND SAY, OH, YEAH, BY THE WAY. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO US NOW. I APPRECIATE IT. AND, AND I THINK THE GOOD THING, YOU KNOW, I DEAL WITH OTHER JUDGES AROUND AND WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS, OUR JUVENILE SITUATION IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN OUR NEIGHBORS. I MEAN, JUST RIDICULOUS. WHAT? YEAH.WHAT GOES ON IN, IN OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES. SO KAUFMAN COUNTY, MAYBE FOR EXAMPLE. YEAH. JUDGE WOODWARD, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SAY IN ADDITION TO I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING AS A BOARD, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. I AM SO THANKFUL THAT I HAVE THIS MAN AS THE AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE. ALWAYS HARD. AND IF HE CAN FIND A WAY TO GET US GRANT MONEY BACK, HE WILL. HE REALLY, REALLY WORKS SO INCREDIBLY HARD AND I. I COULDN'T ASK FOR A BETTER PROBATION DEPARTMENT OR PROGRAM. GOT IT. HEY, BOBBY, WHEN DOES THE BELL. WHEN DOES YOUR BOARD MEET? NOT BELL BOARD. WHEN DOES YOUR JUVENILE BOARD.
WE HAVEN'T SET. I MEAN, WE MEET QUARTERLY. THE LAST MEETING WE HAD WAS AT THE END OF MAY.
TYPICALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGET, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE LATE JULY IS WHAT I WHAT I THINK. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. AND NORMALLY THEY KIND OF WAIT AS WELL TO SEE WHAT THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'RE GOING WITH RAISES OR COLAS OR WHAT HAVE YOU TO, TO MIRROR THAT IN THEIRS. AND I JUST ALWAYS ASK HIM TO LET ME SEE WHAT HE'S PROJECTING FOR. 20 FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR SO THAT I CAN PRESENT TO YOU THAT, WOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE A 300, 000. YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF EVER HIT IT COULD BE TO YOUR POTENTIAL BUDGET. SO HE'S KIND ENOUGH TO SHARE IT WITH ME. SO LIKE HE SAID, THE JUVENILE BOARD HASN'T EVEN DISCUSSED IT YET. SO BUT I DID RECOMMEND THAT HE PUT A CONTINGENCY LINE IN JUST FOR THE FUTURE. NOW THAT SEEMS LIKE A SMART ACCOUNTING MOVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. BOEDECKER? NO, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BECAUSE HE BROUGHT THIS ATTEMPT TO BOTH THE AUDITOR'S ATTENTION, AND THEN HE AND JUDGE WOODWARD CONTACTED ME AND WE WE WERE ON TOP OF THIS PRETTY QUICK. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THE OTHER THING WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY IS OUR COMMISSIONER. COURT BUDGETS. LET'S SEE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU BOBBY. THANK YOU STEPHANIE. SO. GOSH, THIS CAN BE REALLY QUICK. THERE'S NOTHING, NOTHING REALLY WORTH EVEN TALKING ABOUT OTHER THAN LAUREN WANTS A DOOR. AND I'VE MEASURED EVERY DOOR IN THE BUILDING, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY A DOOR. I'M GOOD WITH THIS DOOR. I'M JUST HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OFFICE SUPPLIES. I'M KIDDING, I DO. I AGREE, THERE'S AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, NOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT, Y'ALL, IF I DON'T GET A DOOR THIS YEAR, IT'S JUST SO WHAT? I DON'T GET A DOOR. NO BIG DEAL. I WANT YOU TO HAVE A DOOR. BUT COMMISSIONER, BUT I ONE THING, IF I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WANT TO GO WITH THIS JUDGE, SO I DON'T WANT TO JUMP IN FRONT OF. NO, LET'S JUMP IN FRONT. BUT I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK, AND I DIDN'T ASK IT LAST YEAR, ALTHOUGH I WANTED TO BECAUSE I WAS JUST KIND OF A NEWBIE AND DIDN'T WANT TO STIR THINGS UP TOO MUCH. IT APPEARS THAT SOMEHOW WE'VE GOTTEN IN A POSITION WHERE THE STANDARD RAISE IS LIKE, LIKE LAST YEAR WAS 4%, RIGHT? WAS IT 4%? I CAN'T EITHER, I THINK, YEAH, LET'S CALL IT 4% FOR SAKE OF 4%.
YEP. AND THEN IF I UNDERSTOOD RIGHT, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WAS 1% LOWER, 3%. WE WE NEGOTIATED THAT DOWN. MY FIRST DRAFT OF THE BUDGET HAD ELECTEDS AND EVERYONE GETTING THE SAME, SAME RACE. AND THAT'S A LOW HANGING FRUIT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR MONEY IS TO TAKE IT FROM THE ELECTEDS, I. I ALWAYS CAUTION DOING THAT BECAUSE A PRIOR COURT WAS THE UNLUCKY
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COURT THAT HAD TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT, AND IT WAS A BIG ENOUGH ADJUSTMENT THAT IT IT IT WAS PUNITIVE. AND MY STANCE IS. WE NEED TO HAVE THE SAME RAISE. IT NEEDS TO GO UP WITH THE STAFF. OKAY. THEN THEN I THINK WE'RE IN PERFECT AGREEMENT. AND LOOK, I IF IF YOU NEED TO SAVE MONEY, TAKE 1% OFF OURS, I DON'T CARE. BUT FOR MY THINKING OF THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS, PARTICULARLY, RIGHT, WHO NOT ONLY HAVE TO FACE THE SAME INFLATIONARY CHALLENGES, WE ALL DO, BUT HAVE TO RUN FOR OFFICE EVERY FOUR YEARS. YEAH, WELL, AND I THINK WE GET IN TROUBLE WHEN WE DON'T. AND AND HISTORY HAS HAS PROVEN THAT. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS LIKE A PLANNED THING OR WHAT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS NOT MY PLAN ON THE SAME PLAN. IF EVERYBODY WILL JUST ADOPT MY FIRST DRAFT, THINGS WILL BE. I PROMISE YOU THERE IS PART OF IT I WILL AGREE WITH. ALL RIGHT. I WILL ACCEPT THAT. IT'S A GOOD, GOOD STARTING POINT. WE FIND WHERE WE AGREE COMMON GROUND. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY, SO WITH OUR BUDGETS THERE, REALLY IT COMES DOWN TO DO YOU NEED FURNITURE? IS YOUR FURNITURE FUNCTIONING PROPERLY? I THINK WE ALL HAVE FUNCTIONING FURNITURE. AND DO WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TRAVEL AND TRAINING. AND EVERYBODY HERE HAS BEEN ON THE COURT LONG ENOUGH NOW TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH YOU NEED.AND OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NOTHING THAT EVEN AND I HAVEN'T STUDIED Y'ALL'S BUDGET. BUT REMEMBER, IT IS A LEGISLATIVE SESSION. YES. SO, SO JUST BE CAREFUL GETTING YOUR TRAVEL AND TRAINING BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE OF IT. I DID HAVE TO INCREASE. I DID INCREASE MY TRAVEL BUDGET BECAUSE OF THAT. YEAH. YEP. ALL RIGHT. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I WILL PICK UP THIS GAVEL AT 1
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