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CALL THE ROCKWALL COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORTIUM TO ORDER. AND I'LL REMIND YOU, WE DON'T USE SPEAKERS BECAUSE WE'RE CASTING THE AUDIO NET THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR OUT THERE IT GOES. YOU MAY BE SAFE, BUT YOU MAY NOT BE SAFE. SO JUST BE ADVISED. TODAY WE HAVE

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A PRESENTATION THAT I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT WE'LL START WITH MR. JEFF NEAL IS IS GOING TO TALK TO US ABOUT I'M GOING TO OVERSIMPLIFY THIS AND ABOUT THE VALUABLE RESOURCE OF WATER AND HOW WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB CAPTURING. DEFINITELY. SO TAKE IT AWAY, JEFF. THANK YOU, JUDGE, AND GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. GREAT TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN. I WAS REMINDED VERY QUICKLY WHEN I ARRIVED YESTERDAY WHY MAINE IS GREAT IN AUGUST, BUT GOOD TO BE WITH YOU ALL AS ALWAYS. SO I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT REALLY A VERY GROUNDBREAKING STUDY. I BELIEVE THE IDEA OF COURSES WERE MITIGATING FUTURE FLOOD EVENTS, BUT IT GOES MUCH FURTHER THAN THAT. IT ENSURES THAT WE'RE IMPROVING UPON THE RESILIENCY OF OUR TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEMS. IT ALSO PROVIDES EVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IMPROVING THE WAY THAT WE THE WAY THAT WE MANAGE OR ADDRESS LAND USE ISSUES, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY WAYS THAT THE SAME KIND OF MECHANISMS THAT WE CAN TRY TO TRY TO EMPLOY TO HELP PREVENT FLOODS COULD ALSO ADDRESS WATER SUPPLY ISSUES AT THE SAME TIME.

SO. WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE IN THIS AREA THAT WE'VE THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GROWN VERY QUICKLY. IT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT FOR THERE TO BE GREAT INVESTMENTS IN FLOOD CONTROL INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL OF THE CORE LAKES, LAKE RAY HUBBARD, CERTAINLY AS A WATER UTILITY FOR DALLAS. BUT TO BE ABLE TO SET UP ALL OF THESE IMPORTANT TOOLS TO HELP PREVENT FLOODING. BUT THE LEVEL OF GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THIS AREA HAS REALLY DEVELOPED A LOT OF A LOT OF NEW NEEDS AS AS WE'LL DISCUSS BEFORE WE EVEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY METEOROLOGICAL OR CLIMATOLOGICAL ISSUES, URBANIZATION IN AND OF ITSELF CONTRIBUTES TO FLOOD RISK BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE WAY THE AREA DRAINS. FLOODPLAINS REALLY ARE VERY UNIQUE AND VERY IMPORTANT TO THE WAY THAT THAT LAND AROUND US FUNCTIONS AND URBANIZATION HAS TWO MAJOR IMPACTS ON ON FLOODING. IT ADDS IMPERVIOUS COVER, STEEL, CONCRETE, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT MATERIALS ARE THEY DON'T ABSORB WATER. THEY REALLY ADD MORE SURFACE FOR WATER TO BE ABLE TO RUN OFF. THAT ALONE CAN CONTRIBUTE AS MUCH AS 10% MORE TO THE, THE FLOW IN THE INTENSITY OF RUNOFF THAT WE WOULD OBSERVE, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THOUGH, IS THE DEPLETION OF VALLEY STORAGE. WE HAVEN'T BEEN OR, YOU KNOW, AS THIS AREA HAS DEVELOPED AND IN MANY CASES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, FOLKS HAVEN'T BEEN IN AREAS LONG ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE FRINGES OF A FLOODPLAIN ARE. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OBSERVATIONS OR OBSERVATION LENGTH TO TRULY UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THERE'S, THERE ARE MECHANISMS IN PLACE THAT ALLOW IN CERTAIN IN CERTAIN CASES, DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE FRINGES OF FLOODPLAINS. BUT THOSE ARE REALLY VERY CRITICAL AREAS THAT WE FIND WITH WE FOUND WITHIN THIS STUDY ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE UP TO 30% IN THE IN THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF THAT THAT OCCURS BECAUSE THAT BEING CLOSEST TO A FLOODPLAIN, THAT'S THE AREA THAT REALLY NEEDS TO ABSORB THAT EXTRA VOLUME AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT EFFECTS ARE REALLY CREATING CONDITIONS THAT AS THE AREA CONTINUES TO URBANIZE, THERE'S GREATER RISK AND FLOODING AND MORE MORE OFTEN IT'S WHERE THOSE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS CONVERGE, STREAMS AND TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. THAT'S WHERE THE MOST FLOOD FATALITIES OCCUR. THAT'S WHERE THE MOST DAMAGE OCCURS. AND, AND OF COURSE, VERY COSTLY, VERY DISRUPTIVE. THOSE IMPACTS CAN BE IN TERMS OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE, ALSO IN TERMS OF EFFICIENCY FOR EVACUATION CONNECTIVITY TO CRITICAL SYSTEMS, SERVICES, MAINTENANCE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE IMPACTED BY NOT NOT INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF CRITICALITY THAT WE THAT WE PROVIDE TO THESE PARTICULAR SYSTEMS. AND IN MANY CASES, BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT UNDERWAY, THAT HAS RENDERED A LOT OF DOWNSTREAM CROSSINGS AND DRAINAGE SYSTEMS AND INADEQUATE TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE INCREASED FLOWS THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THOSE AREAS OVER TIME.

THAT'S REALLY FORMING THE BASIS FOR THE STUDY THAT WE'VE THAT WE'VE DONE NOW. WE STARTED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO. WE'RE WRAPPING UP AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT

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TRYING TO TAKE A LOT OF ALREADY EXISTING HYDRAULIC AND HYDROLOGY BASED MODELING, ENHANCE THEM, IMPROVE THEM, PROVIDE MORE MORE INFORMATION, MORE RESOLUTION TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THESE AT THESE PROBLEMS FROM A WATERSHED LEVEL, FROM A PROJECT LEVEL, SEE WHAT HOW YOU KNOW, THROUGH THAT INFORMATION, WE CAN ASSESS THE IMPACTS ON TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES, ADJACENT LAND USES. WE CAN LOOK AT HOW ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING AND THE TOOLS AROUND IT EITHER CONTRIBUTES OR, OR DEGRADES THE ABILITY FOR AN AREA TO BE ABLE TO FLOOD EFFICIENTLY. WE ALL OF THIS IS DONE FROM THE FROM THE BOTTOM UP WITH STAKEHOLDERS. WE'VE HAD MANY, MANY PUBLIC MEETINGS, MANY, MANY AGENCY MEETINGS BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE DATA DRIVEN. IT NEEDS TO BE COME FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE, WHO ARE UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THEM SO THAT WE CAN ADEQUATELY, ACCURATELY MODEL THOSE PARTICULAR SITUATIONS. WE CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING HOW THESE ISSUES ARE IMPACT POLICIES AND VICE VERSA. THERE NEEDS TO BE MECHANISMS THAT ALLOW FOR HIGHER STANDARDS TO BE EMPLOYED IN DESIGN AND OF COURSE, ABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO FUND THOSE THOSE PARTICULAR SYSTEMS WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES AND SUFFICIENT WAYS TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE STRATEGIES THROUGH ORDINANCES, THROUGH MODEL, YOU KNOW, MODEL DEVELOPMENT CODES AND OTHER OTHER MECHANISMS. WHEN WE'RE COORDINATING WITH TEXDOT, WHEN WE'RE COORDINATING WITH OTHER PUBLIC WORKS SYSTEMS SO THAT WE'RE BEING AS EFFICIENT AND PROACTIVE AS POSSIBLE WHILE ALSO BEING BEING COST EFFECTIVE.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS JUST HERE. EVERY PLACE THAT'S RAPIDLY URBANIZING IS EXPERIENCING THIS PROBLEM. YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE MAP THERE TO THE TO THE RIGHT.

WE'VE WE'VE PERFORMED THIS STUDY BOTH NORTH AND WEST OF THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA, UPSTREAM OF THE URBAN CORES OF DALLAS FORT WORTH. WE WANT TO EXPAND IT, IF WE CAN, TO THE REST OF THE REGION. CERTAINLY, THIS AREA IS ALSO EXPERIENCING A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF GROWTH, EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF THE STREAMS THAT FLOW INTO THE EAST FORK BYPASS, THE HEART OF DALLAS AND FORT WORTH, THIS AREA NEEDS AS AS AS MUCH ATTENTION, $10 MILLION STUDY FUNDED BY THE THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, TXDOT, THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT. THROUGH MITIGATION FUNDS RECEIVED THROUGH THE TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE. A NUMBER OF EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS, CERTAINLY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES HAVE CONVERGED WITH US TO CONDUCT THIS STUDY, ALONG WITH A NUMBER OF CONSULTANTS. SEVERAL OF THEM ARE HERE IN THIS ROOM, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR THEIR GUIDANCE AND THEIR EXPERTISE. BUT THE IDEA IS NOT ONE SOLUTION IS GOING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. IT NEEDS A MENU OF OPTIONS. THAT'S WHAT INTEGRATION IS ALL ABOUT. IT'S GOING TO TAKE ABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT WITHIN URBAN AREAS, RURAL AREAS, HOW BIORETENTION SYSTEMS, HOW ABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO DETAIN WATER SOMETIMES IN THE VICINITY OF ROADWAYS THAT HAPPEN TO CROSS THEM. GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, FLOOD WARNING SYSTEMS, ALL OF THIS INFORMATION HOPEFULLY CAN FIND A WAY, FIND A WAY FOR THOSE SYSTEMS TO FUNCTION MORE EFFICIENTLY. BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN WORK TOGETHER IN DIFFERENT QUANTITIES, IN CERTAIN SPACES TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUT, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE MITIGATION OPPORTUNITIES. AND I'LL DESCRIBE FOR EVERYBODY HERE TODAY THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF THESE MENU OF OPTIONS, THE WAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS INFORMATION, HOPEFULLY TO BE ABLE TO BE MORE PROACTIVE IN RESPONDING TO FLOODS OVER TIME.

I'LL START WITH HYDROLOGY AND HYDRAULIC ENHANCEMENTS, CERTAINLY VERY TECHNICAL, AND I WON'T GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL BEHIND THIS, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT CURRENT RESOLUTION IS INSUFFICIENT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM. WE HAVE TO TAKE A PARTICULAR WATERSHED, DIVIDE IT UP INTO MULTIPLE SUBBASINS, ADD ATTRIBUTES ASSOCIATED WITH LAND USE. BE ABLE TO SIMULATE CHANGES IN VALLEY STORAGE. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADD TEXT BRIDGES, OTHER STRUCTURES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED. IN MANY CASES THOSE MODELS DON'T HAVE THAT FINE OF OF DETAIL, BUT IT'S NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND HOW WATER DISCHARGES THROUGH THOSE PARTICULAR BASINS. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP US DETERMINE THE POTENTIAL CHANGES IN FLOWS OVER TIME. THE IDEA BEING THAT WE WILL SIMULATE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE YEAR 2070. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BY 2070, WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE FLOWS THAT ARE HAPPENING TODAY, ESSENTIALLY 2020. SO OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP FLOWS THE SAME AS THEY ARE TODAY SO THAT NO ADDITIONAL FLOODING WOULD TAKE PLACE THIS WAY. IT ALLOWS US TO FIND OUT WHERE OUR WHERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE, WHERE OUR LAND PARCELS LAND USES VULNERABLE AND SUSCEPTIBLE TO FLOODING IN THOSE AREAS. WE CAN CERTAINLY

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WORK A GREAT DEAL ON MAKING SURE THAT IF GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, NATURE BASED SOLUTIONS CAN BE MORE COMPREHENSIVELY EMPLOYED IN THOSE PLACES, THAT ALONE IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION, A LOT OF THIS A LOT OF THIS TYPE OF IMPACT.

AND SO OUR OUR MODELING, ALL OF OUR WORK HERE IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO SEE WHERE SHOULD THOSE AREAS BE PRIORITIZED, HOW WILL THEY PERFORM? WHAT'S THE EFFICIENCY OF THOSE OF THOSE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS AT BOTH THE WATERSHED COMMUNITY, EVEN EVEN A PROJECT SCALE? AND WE'LL HAVE MAPS SHOWING WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE. AND THE IDEA IS LOOKING AT EACH INDIVIDUAL WATERSHED. AND YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE BIG MAP TO THE TO THE RIGHT, ALL THE WATERSHEDS THAT WERE TESTED IN THIS HIGHER DEGREE OF RESOLUTION. WE'VE TAKEN THE UPPER. WE'VE TAKEN THE EAGLE MOUNTAIN, WEST FORK TRINITY AND FURTHER DIVIDED THAT UP INTO DIFFERENT SUBBASINS. AND THEN THE IDEA IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT EITHER A LOCAL DETENTION OPPORTUNITIES VERSUS REGIONAL DETENTION OPPORTUNITIES, IS THERE ACTUALLY A DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF ACRE FEET OF STORAGE THAT'S NEEDED WHEN YOU'RE GROUPING DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS TOGETHER IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS? SOME AREAS BECAUSE OF TOPOGRAPHY, GEOLOGY, OTHER OTHER FACETS ARE GOING TO DRAIN FASTER THAN OTHERS. AND THOSE SHOULD BE THE AREAS THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO CONCENTRATE, ESPECIALLY IF THERE HAPPEN TO BE JUNCTIONS OR BRIDGES, CULVERTS ON TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES THAT CROSS AT THOSE LOCATIONS. IN THE WESTERN PART OF OUR AREA, WE'VE IDENTIFIED 96 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WHERE THIS THIS MIGHT MAKE SENSE, AND WE'VE DIVIDED THAT UP INTO THE SIX DIFFERENT SUBBASINS IN THAT AREA. WE'VE GONE FURTHER TO TRY TO SELECT CERTAIN ALTERNATIVES THAT WE WOULD EVALUATE IN FURTHER DETAIL, EVEN GOING SO FAR AS TO SEE WHEN YOU COME UP WITH THESE DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS.

WHAT'S THE BENEFIT COST RATIO? WHAT'S THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THOSE LOCATIONS? NOW, WHEN I SAY ROADWAY DETENTION, THAT DIAGRAM ON THE RIGHT REALLY DESCRIBES WHAT I MEAN. RIGHT NOW, IN MANY CASES, ROADWAYS ARE OBSTACLES. THEY'LL HAVE BRIDGES OR CULVERTS THAT MAY LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT FLOWS THROUGH THEM. SO THE IDEA HERE IS FIND WAYS TO BE ABLE TO METER THAT AND SOMEHOW IN SOME CASES EVEN HOLD THAT WATER BACK. WE DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE THE BUILD A BUILD A STRUCTURE WHERE THE WATER JUST SIMPLY GOES THROUGH AND FLOODS THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, FLOODS THE NEXT STRUCTURE. IF THERE'S A WAY TO BE ABLE TO SAVE BOTH THIS STRUCTURE AND OTHER PARCELS DOWNSTREAM AND POTENTIALLY ALSO MAYBE JUST HOLD SOME WATER SUPPLY FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE TESTING. JUST AN EXAMPLE, ONE PARTICULAR LOCATION IN PARKER COUNTY. FM 3325 AT MARY'S CREEK. HERE, WE'RE ABLE TO SHOW YOU HOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH WATER WE THINK THIS PARTICULAR CONCEPT WOULD HOLD, HOLD BACK WATER. THE CHANGES IN ELEVATION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND THEN HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT WHAT TYPE OF BRIDGE YOU NEED OR CULVERT YOU NEED THE AMOUNT OF ROADWAY THAT NEEDS TO BE AFFECTED IF YOU RAISE THAT STRUCTURE. AND IN THIS CASE, BY CHANGING FROM THE CURRENT BRIDGE TO A MULTI-BARREL CULVERT SYSTEM, WE CAN IMPROVE THAT FACILITY FROM JUST ONLY BEING ABLE TO HANDLE A TWO YEAR FLOOD EVENT TO A 100 YEAR FLOOD EVENT. AND, AND EVEN THOUGH THAT'S BASED OFF OF CURRENT FLOWS, THAT CONVEYANCE IS GOING TO BE EVEN GREATER WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE FLOWS. I SHOULD ALSO SAY THIS SOLUTION ISN'T GOING TO BE THE ONLY, ONLY THING THAT WILL PREVENT FLOODING. AND IN SOME CASES WHERE THERE WHERE THERE ARE MORE FLASHY WATERSHEDS, MARY'S CREEK IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE THERE'S NO DOWNSTREAM RESERVOIR, LIKE LIKE A LAKE TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THOSE, THOSE VOLUMES, WE NEED TO LOOK AT FINDING WAYS TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT PEOPLE.

CERTAINLY STRUCTURES IN PLACES THAT ALREADY EXIST AND IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, BECAUSE IT'S SO FLASHY AND BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVEN'T LIVED IN THAT AREA FOR THAT LONG, TO UNDERSTAND JUST HOW IMPACTFUL THIS CAN BE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AT THE COST EFFECTIVENESS OF BEING ABLE TO SEE IF WE CAN DEVELOP SOME WAY OF BUYING OUT THOSE PROPERTIES SO THAT THOSE AREAS IN ANY OTHER AREAS DOWNSTREAM WON'T BE IMPACTED OVER TIME. AS AREAS UPSTREAM CONTINUE TO DEVELOP. AND IN EACH OF THESE WATERSHEDS, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE THEORETICAL STORAGE REQUIRED IN THOSE AREAS. HOW IS THAT BREAKDOWN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE OF A LOCAL VERSUS REGIONAL APPROACH? AND THEN FOR EACH OF THESE DETENTION DETENTION PROJECTS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, IF YOU WANTED TO BE COMPREHENSIVE, HOW MANY WOULD YOU EXPECT TO HAVE TO BUILD TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE STORAGE LEVEL THAT'S NECESSARY TO KEEP 2020 FLOWS? AND THERE'S QUITE A FEW PROJECTS HERE IN EACH EACH OF

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THESE WATERSHEDS, BUT MANY OF THESE AREAS ARE URBANIZING. IT MIGHT NOT BE POSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS MANY PROJECTS AGAIN. MENU OF OPTIONS. WE'VE GOT TO DO MORE THAN JUST ONE APPROACH TO ALL OF THIS. AND WHEN IT COMES TO ROADWAY DETENTION, EXCAVATION OBVIOUSLY IS A GREAT DEAL MORE EXPENSIVE, MORE DISRUPTIVE THAN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH AN EMBANKMENT, A CULVERT, OR A BRIDGE TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT VOLUME SO THAT IT DOESN'T SPREAD OUT INTO OTHER INTO OTHER AREAS. IF WE CAN COMBINE, COME, COME CONFINE NEW FILL TO THE OUTSIDE OF THOSE FRINGES. IF WE CAN KEEP VALLEY STORAGE AREAS INTACT, THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE GREATER FLOOD PROTECTION OVER TIME. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T AND WE'VE SIMULATED WHAT HAPPENS WHEN NO ACTION IS TAKEN, THERE WILL BE INCREASED DAMAGE OVER TIME AS A RESULT OF OF INCREASED URBANIZATION. WE'RE FINDING THAT JUST WITH THE WESTERN PART OF THIS WHOLE SUBREGION, BY 2076, WE CAN WE CAN EXPECT THAT THERE WOULD BE PRESENT VALUE, NEARLY 1.1, $1.2 BILLION MORE DAMAGE BECAUSE OF STRUCTURES THAT WOULD BE INUNDATED BY THAT LEVEL OF FLOOD. IN THE CASE OF A VERY SEVERE STORM, LIKE A 500 YEAR EVENT, SOME SOME WATERSHEDS ARE GOING TO BE WORSE OFF THAN OTHERS. AGAIN, MARY'S CREEK, BECAUSE THERE'S NO DOWNSTREAM RESERVOIR, IS ACTUALLY GOING TO CONTRIBUTE MORE TO THAT. THAT IMPACT PUT MORE HOMES, MORE STRUCTURES UNDER INUNDATION AND NOT JUST IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. WE'RE ALSO EVALUATING WHAT WOULD HAPPEN DOWNSTREAM THROUGH THE HEART OF THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA. IF THESE AREAS DIDN'T HAVE INCREASED MITIGATION FOR FLOODING. AND THEN AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST WHAT ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN DO NOW? HOW DO WE WORK WITH COMMUNITIES? HOW DO WE WORK WITH EXISTING SYSTEMS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AT WARNING PEOPLE WHEN EVENTS TAKE PLACE, ENSURING THAT THERE'S A SUFFICIENT EMERGENCY RESPONSE NECESSARY? AND SO A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ALREADY HAVE THESE, THIS APPARATUS THEMSELVES. THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH OTHER ENTITIES. BUT WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE WHAT'S THE CURRENT CAPACITY OF THOSE OF THOSE SYSTEMS? WHERE ARE THERE GAPS? WHAT ARE OTHER REGIONAL CHARACTERISTICS? WE WANTED TO REALLY DIVE IN AND FIND OUT WHAT WHAT MIGHT BE NEEDED IN THOSE CASES. WE DID. WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND WHAT HAD TO BE DONE WITH THOSE SYSTEMS, BUT JUST TRYING TO TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE REALIZE THAT IF THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT MORE REGIONAL SYSTEMS, HERE'S WHAT HERE'S WHAT THEY CAN DO. AND WE'VE DEVELOPED A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND MASTER PLANS TO HELP ACCOMMODATE THIS. AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL PUT $2 MILLION INTO A FLOODED ROADS INFORMATION SYSTEM THAT WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT. REGIONWIDE. HERE'S. AND WE'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED TOOLS AND PROCEDURES TO BE ABLE TO HELP, HELP TAKE THAT ON THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND OF COURSE, THIS CAN'T JUST BE A PLAN THAT SITS ON A SHELF. WE WANT TO FIND OUT HOW TO FUND THESE PROJECTS OVER TIME. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT FROM THE WATER, FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE STORMWATER SIDE, FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE, FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE, ALL THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES, ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES, WHERE THIS KIND OF THESE KIND OF PROJECTS CAN BE HELPFUL. WE'VE DEVELOPED AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT HAS GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, ELIGIBLE, OTHER ELIGIBLE FUNDING SOURCES WHERE ALL OF THESE ALL OF THESE THINGS MAY BE ELIGIBLE. AND WE CAN PURSUE TRYING TO BE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THIS MORE COMPREHENSIVELY OVER TIME. AND WHETHER YOU LOOK AT FLOOD HAZARD MITIGATION OR INFRASTRUCTURE THEMSELVES, WE'VE KIND OF SUBDIVIDED THOSE TOPICS AND THOSE DIFFERENT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TOGETHER BECAUSE IN THE END, WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS MERIT CRITERIA IN A GRANT APPLICATION, WHEN YOU'RE DEMONSTRATING PARTNERSHIPS AND EVERYBODY COMING TO THE TABLE TO WORK ON THESE SOLUTIONS, POLICIES MATTER. DO OUR ORDINANCES IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THESE HIGHER STANDARDS, OUR CODES, HELPING TO CONTRIBUTE TO SOME OF THE MITIGATION. BECAUSE AGAIN, VALLEY STORAGE, WE DON'T WANT TO ENCROACH UPON THESE AREAS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. SO WE WE'VE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE REGION ARE ALREADY DOING THINGS LIKE THIS. IN FACT, EVEN GOING A STEP FURTHER AND SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE BASED ON FULLY DEVELOPED CONDITIONS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, THIS WHOLE NOTION OF FREEBOARD OR, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO BUILD ABOVE FLOOD ELEVATION, THESE THESE COMMUNITIES ARE ALREADY DOING IT. SO WE'RE PROVIDING THAT INVENTORY, WE'RE PROVIDING THAT RESOURCE THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND THESE, THESE COMMUNITIES HAVE THE TOOLS, THE MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. WE DON'T WANT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. WE WANT TO TAKE WHAT'S ALREADY WORKING ELSEWHERE AND ALLOW OTHER COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME KIND OF THINGS. SO THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THESE ARE NOT THE ONLY CATEGORIES. THIS ISN'T THE ONLY LIST. WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE INFORMATION HERE THAT THAT VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS CAN USE TO HELP, YOU KNOW,

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BUILD THIS, BUILD, BUILD THIS FUTURE MITIGATION EVEN GREATER OVER TIME. AND SO WITH THIS AND WITH THIS IN PLACE, THE IDEA IS THAT WE'RE LEVERAGING, WE'RE ENHANCING TOOLS, DATA STRATEGIES, EXISTING FRAMEWORKS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE, TO RECOMMEND CERTAIN PROJECTS. THE, THE PROJECTS, STRATEGIES, EVALUATIONS. COMING OUT OF THIS, WE'RE GOING TO SEEK PUTTING IT INTO THE STATE FLOOD PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO FIND OTHER, OTHER POTENTIAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS AND ENSURE THAT AT LEAST FOR ABOVE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T DONE A BENEFIT COST ANALYSIS ON EVERY PROJECT, WE'VE AT LEAST GOT THE ABILITY, THE, THE DATA, ALL THE OTHER MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO WHERE IF STUDIES COME AFTER US, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO EASILY GET TO THAT, GET TO THAT LEVEL. BECAUSE IN THE END, IF WE NEED TO DO THIS, THERE NEEDS TO BE COOPERATION AMONG AGENCIES. WE NEED TO LINK PLANNING, PROGRAMING, PRIORITIZATION OF PROJECTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO WHETHER IT'S OUR PLANS THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, WHETHER IT'S TXDOT PLANS THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS HAVE TO SPEAK TO EACH OTHER. SO WE'RE ALL WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THE SYSTEMS, THE PROCESSES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE SO THAT AS WE EXPAND THIS, THIS OPPORTUNITY, HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW MORE PLACES REGION WIDE STATEWIDE TO BUILD UPON WHAT WE'RE DOING AND AFFECT BETTER CONTROLS WITH NOT ONLY FLOOD MITIGATION, BUT POTENTIALLY WATER SUPPLY AND OTHER MEANS TO BE ABLE TO GROW SMARTLY AND MORE PROACTIVELY IN THE FUTURE. WE COULDN'T GET THIS, HAVE GOTTEN THIS DONE WITHOUT THE MANY DIFFERENT PARTNERS AGAIN, THAT WE HAD. AS YOU SAW IN THE BEGINNING, THESE ARE SOME OF THE FOLKS LISTED HERE. WE HAVE A STORY MAP WHICH PROVIDES AN INTERACTIVE GIS OR VISUALIZATION CAPABILITY OF BEING ABLE TO DISPLAY ALL THESE THINGS THAT I SHOWED SHOWED YOU HERE TODAY, AS WELL AS A WEBSITE THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING IN OUR FINAL REPORT AND OTHER DETAILS WHERE Y'ALL CAN GET MORE INFORMATION. I THINK BEFORE I CLOSE, JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, THIS IS BEING THIS IS GOING TO BE INCORPORATED OBVIOUSLY WITHIN OUR FINAL REPORT AS, AS, AS AN EXAMPLE OF STATE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. SO CERTAINLY WITH EMAILS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT SEND TO ME AFTERWARD AND COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF MATERIAL, BUT THIS WILL BE A WAY OF SHOWING THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH EVERYBODY.

WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD THIS, BUILD THIS COALITION TOGETHER. AND EVEN MINUTES FROM FROM THIS MEETING WOULD CERTAINLY BE VERY APPRECIATED JUST SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN DOCUMENT THE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS, ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PROCESS. AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE VERY, VERY PLEASED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY AND HOPE WE HOPE WE CAN EXPAND THE STUDY WITH THAT JUDGE. YEAH, THANK YOU, JEFF, VERY MUCH. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JEFF? MAN, I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M GLAD THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT THIS TOGETHER. THE FIRST STEP IS START TALKING ABOUT IT. EXACTLY. WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'D LIKE TO SEND THIS POWERPOINT TO EVERYBODY HERE. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. HAPPY TO. I'LL HAVE MEREDITH DO THAT AND THEN I'LL GET THE MINUTES TO YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. NEAL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT,

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WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO MISS ERICA. I DON'T SEE BRENDA. SO YOU'RE FLYING SOLO TODAY TO GO OVER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. HEY, AND, ERICA, WHEN WE GET TO THE OUTER LOOP, WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER LICHTY, WHO'S GOING TO HAVE UPDATES FOR US. ON. I SHOULD GO GET MY JACKET. ALL RIGHT. STARTING OUT WITH FM 552. TEX-DOT HAS APPROVED THE BREAKOUT LIMITS PROPOSED BY ROCKWALL COUNTY, AND IT'S. STATE HIGHWAY 276 EAST. THE UPDATE ON THIS ONE IS THAT SPECTRUM IS CURRENTLY LOCATED. RELOCATING THEIR UTILITIES. FM 549 FROM THE TEX-DOT REPORT THIS MONTH, THEY HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTING TEMPORARY PAVEMENT. THE STATE TWO STATE HIGHWAY 205 INTERSECTION, WIDENING DRAINAGE INSTALLATIONS, BRIDGE STRUCTURE, RECONSTRUCTION AND FINISHED UP ON THE. INSTALLING THE SWAP. ON THE STATE HIGHWAY 66 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS. CONSOLE IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON DEVELOPING A FEE. STATE HIGHWAY TWO 205 AND GOLIAD. REIMAGINING OF. THEY'VE COMPLETED THE FIELD WORK AND ARE PROCESSING THE

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DATA. CURRENTLY. FINAL VERIFICATION IS PENDING AND TRAFFIC TRAFFIC MODELING IS ONGOING. SUBSURFACE UTILITY ENGINEERING RECORDS RESEARCH IS ONGOING. ROADWAY NETWORK ANALYSIS, TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS, AND PROGRAMING ARE IN PROCESS. FOR FUTURE STATE HIGHWAY 205 MIDDLE. AS YOU'LL NOTICE, SOME OF THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND CONSTRUCTION FUNDING NUMBERS HAVE BEEN UPDATED. SAME WITH THE STATE HIGHWAY 205 SOUTH. THOSE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN UPDATED AND TXDOT HAS UPDATED THE CONSTRUCTION. NOTABLY, FROM NOVEMBER OF 2028 TO JUNE OF 2027. FOR FM 35, BGE IS COORDINATING WITH TXDOT REGARDING COMMENTS. A PUBLIC MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW, THURSDAY, AUGUST 20TH FROM 5 TO 7 AT FELLOWSHIP CHURCH IN ROYSE CITY, AND THERE WILL ALSO BE A VIRTUAL OPTION ON THAT. FM 1141 THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH PAPE DAWSON WAS APPROVED AT THE JULY 28TH COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING, AND THE KICKOFF MEETING WAS HELD AUGUST 10TH.

PAPE DAWSON HAS BECOME WORKING ON THE. C HAS BEGUN WORKING ON THE CSG APPROVAL FORMS FOR TXDOT. SCHEDULING MEETINGS WITH THE TXDOT DISTRICT. DALLAS DISTRICT P M FOR VISIT, SITE, VISIT AND WORKING ON THE SCHEDULE FOR SURVEY ACTIVITIES AND COORDINATING WITH TXDOT ON PROJECT SCHEDULE. FM 548 FROM WINDMILL FARMS TO 205 BURNS, MCDONALD IS WORKING TOWARDS COMPLETION OF THE 100% PLANS. FM 548 FROM STATE HIGHWAY 66 TO SOUTH OF CRENSHAW ROAD THAT IS AWAITING CE APPROVAL FROM TXDOT. SKIPPING OVER TO CRENSHAW ROAD. THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING WAS HELD THIS MONTH ON AUGUST 5TH. NOTICE FOR NOTICE TO PROCEED HAS BEEN ISSUED AND CONSTRUCTION STARTED. AUGUST 17TH, 2026. AND I'VE BEEN OUT TO THE SIDE AND I'VE SEEN THEY ACTUALLY ARE OUT THERE WORKING AND CLEARING, SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS. FOR THE OUTER LOOP. MR. LICHTY. HEY, THANKS. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL THOSE OF YOU GUYS THAT ARE WEARING JACKETS. I DIDN'T WEAR ONE TONIGHT. I'VE ALREADY HAD TO APOLOGIZE TO THE MAYOR HERE FOR THAT. SO OUTER LOOP, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. FIRST OF ALL, ON THE NORTHERN SECTION THERE ARE JUST ABOUT COMPLETE WITH THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS, WHICH AND THERE'S WE'VE GOT A SCHEDULE, A PUBLIC MEETING. HALF WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT IN OCTOBER. AND I WANTED TO CHECK WITH YOU ALL AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY DATES THEY'VE SUGGESTED OCTOBER 6TH OR OCTOBER 29TH. YEAH. OCTOBER 6TH OR OCTOBER 29TH. ANY OF THOSE DATES CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR ANY OF YOU GUYS? IS THERE ANY DATE YOU WISH FOR? I KNOW YOU'RE I'M KIND OF CATCHING YOU OFF GUARD, BUT LET ME KNOW IF IT DOES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME RIGHT THIS MINUTE, BUT IF YOU KNOW RIGHT THIS MINUTE, BECAUSE THEY'VE CHECKED AND THOSE ARE DATES WHERE OUR LIBERTY HALL IS OPEN AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR LIKE THERE'S ANY OTHER BIG MEETINGS IN THE COUNTY ON THOSE EVENINGS.

AND WE LIKE TO MAKE SURE TO GET AS MUCH INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE THEY TURN IN THEIR FINAL REPORT. SO THAT'S ON THE NORTHERN SECTION. THAT STUDY IS ALMOST DONE ON THE SOUTHERN PART FROM 276 SOUTH. I'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A COPY OF THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND HAS NOW BEEN APPROVED BY NET COG. AND WHAT THIS TRIES TO DO, AND I THINK WE'LL. SUCCESSFUL. IS. IS GIVE THE COUNTY SIGNIFICANT INPUT IN MITIGATING THE IMPACT OF THE OUTER LOOP SOUTH AND DETERMINING THE ROUTE WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO AND HOW IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED. MANY OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, MICHAEL MORRIS FROM THE RTC CAME HERE AND TALKED ABOUT MITIGATION STRATEGIES. AND IF YOU LOOK IN SECTION FOUR OF THIS DOCUMENT, WE HAVE OUTLINED WHAT WE CALL DESIGN OBJECTIVES, WHICH INCORPORATE ALL THE MITIGATION STRATEGIES HE'S DISCUSSED AND HE DISCUSSED, AND SOME OTHERS. SO THESE ARE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND DO, WHICH WILL TRY

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AND LESSEN ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT THE OUTER LOOP MIGHT HAVE ON THE SOUTHERN SECTION OF OUR COUNTY, BECAUSE THE OUTER LOOP IS GOING TO BE BUILT THERE. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH DETERMINED, AS MR. MORRIS TOLD US. SO THIS GIVES US A REAL VOICE IN. WANTED YOU TO INFLUENCE IT, AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH HALF AND ASSOCIATES. THE RTC APPROVED THIS AND I'M EXPECTING A SIGNED VERSION BACK FROM THEM WITHIN A WEEK OR SO, AND THEN WE'LL GET IT SIGNED BY THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS APPROVED IT. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO GET GOING. THE NEXT THING WE HAVE TO DO IS NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH HAFEN ASSOCIATES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT. AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM. WE HAD A CONFERENCE CALL TODAY TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WE GOT TO FOCUS ON AND, AND TRY AND MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF. SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE OUTER LOOP. AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY MIGHT HAVE. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, JANET? OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. TAKE IT AWAY. ERICA, WAIT. MATT, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. LICHTY? JUST A COUPLE POINTS THAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AND BRENDA IS HER MOM. RIGHT NOW, BUT. OH, YES. I'M SORRY, I FORGOT TO DO THAT. JUDGE. THE HALF WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION HERE TO US NEXT MONTH AT THE CONSORTIUM MEETING ABOUT THE, THE, THE NORTHERN PART OF THE OUTER LOOP CERTAINLY WOULD WOULD LOVE THAT. WE MAY ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE SCHEDULED. SO WE MAY HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS, BUT WOULD WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME COME PRESENT. COUNCIL STAFF WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT. NOTICES WILL GO OUT PROBABLY ABOUT THREE WEEKS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO IT'S GOOD FOR US TO ALL AGREE. GREAT, WONDERFUL. YEAH, PLAN ON IT. PLAN ON IT NEXT MONTH. YEAH. THANKS, ERICA.

TAKE IT AWAY. OKAY. HOPEFULLY THE MICROPHONE. OH, HOPEFULLY THE MICROPHONE IS WORKING FOR ME. OKAY. HORIZON ROAD BRIDGE FARMER CONTINUED DEVELOPING THE SCHEMATIC PLAN VIEW DEPICTING FOUR LANE CONFIGURATION WITH POTENTIAL RIGHT OF WAY LIMITS. THEY'RE WORKING ON TRAFFIC MODELING UPDATES TO THE EXISTING TRAFFIC DIAGRAMS AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC DIAGRAMS, AND DEVELOPING THE DESIGN SCHEMATIC. VILLAGE DRIVE. THE ICA HAS BEEN FULLY EXECUTED. TXDOT HAS TRANSMITTED THE A F A FOR FOR SIGNATURE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH LAMB STAR HAS BEEN EXECUTED AND THE INTERNAL WILL KICK OFF. MEETING WAS HELD AUGUST 11TH. FM 550 TMP PRESENTED THE. THE OPTION OF USING THE RURAL TOWN CRITERIA FOR DESIGN TO TXDOT. TMP IS PROCEEDING WITH THE SUBURBAN ROADWAY DESIGN WITH A RIGHT OF WAY FOOTPRINT TO ACCOMMODATE A FOUR LANE URBAN DIVIDED ROADWAY IN THE FUTURE AND ANTICIPATE FIRST SCHEMATIC SUBMITTAL IN OCTOBER. FM 550 AT 205, A COORDINATION MEETING WAS HELD ON JULY 24TH AND JULY 27TH. SORRY, AUGUST 7TH. FM 549. WSB IS UPDATING THE DESIGN SUMMARY REPORT, DESIGN CRITERIA AND TYPICAL SECTIONS TO ADDRESS COMMENTS RECEIVED AT THE DESIGN CONCEPT CONFERENCE. THEY'RE ALSO BEGINNING TO IDENTIFY ALIGNMENT OPTIONS AND PREPARE RIGHT OF ENTRY LETTERS FOR SURVEY AND ENVIRONMENTAL EFFORTS. THE SURVEY DATA FROM THE AERIAL FLIGHT IS ALSO STILL BEING PROCESSED. FM 1777 AND FM 35 CONNECTOR ROAD. LAMB STAR CONTINUES DATA COLLECTION AND DEVELOPING DESIGN CRITERIA AND TYPICAL SECTIONS. THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. THEY'VE COMPLETED UTILITY RECORD RESEARCH AND FINISHED INITIAL LEVEL B AND C INVESTIGATIONS. THE DESIGN CONCEPT CONFERENCE WAS HELD

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AUGUST 10TH. THEY'RE WORKING CURRENTLY ON CONCEPTS AND ANTICIPATE ALTERNATIVE SELECTION IN OCTOBER AND ANTICIPATING AS WELL COMPLETION OF THE 30% SCHEMATIC IN DECEMBER. FM 740 THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ATHAN WAS APPROVED ON JULY 28TH ON THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AGENDA, AND THEY'RE PREPARING SUBCONSULTANT AGREEMENTS AND PREPARING A C D KICK OFF MEETING HAS BEEN SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 2ND, AND IT'S. ARE COORDINATING WITH TXDOT ON PROJECT SCHEDULE FOR FM 2453. WE ANTICIPATE CONSIDERATION OF AN RFQ. WELL. THE. THE RFQ SHOULD BE, I BELIEVE, POSTED THIS WEEK BY THE COUNTY. IT WAS APPROVED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT OF THE LAST ON THE LAST AGENDA. SO THE RFQ SHOULD BE COMING OUT THIS WEEK. THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE FREESE AND NICHOLS HAS ADDRESSED COUNTY COMMENTS ON THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT CHAPTER AND INTRODUCTION, INTRODUCTION AND ESTIMATING CONDITIONS CHAPTERS, ALTHOUGH THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN FORWARDED TO US JUST YET. F AND I UPDATED THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN DRAFT BASED ON COUNTY COMMENTS AND PRELIMINARY MODEL RUN RESULTS.

THEY'VE ALSO COORDINATED WITH NCT COG FOR MODEL RUNS AND UTILIZE NCT COG MODEL TO PREPARE SKETCH MODEL FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY FOR 2035 AND 2050. THEY ANTICIPATE. SUBMITTAL OF THE FIRST ROUGH DRAFT OF THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IN SEPTEMBER AND THE NEXT PROJECT COORDINATION. THEY HAD A PROJECT COORDINATION MEETING HELD JULY 29TH. SOUTH BEND PINE ROAD. COORDINATION BETWEEN ROCKWALL COUNTY AND CITY OF FATE IS ONGOING. MISS MAY DRIVE EXTENSION FOR UTILITIES. AT&T HAS STARTED PERMITTING PROCESS WITH TXDOT, AND ENCORE HAS STARTED THE PERMITTING PROCESS WITH TXDOT AS WELL. AND CURRENT ACTIVITIES INCLUDE CURB INLET FORMS READY FOR INSPECTION TO BEGIN POURING. SOUTHBOUND AND NORTHBOUND LANES HAVE BEEN POURED FROM PRINCE LANE TO 50FT FROM FM 552. STEEL ON THE CURB INLETS IS READY FOR INSPECTION AND CLEARING ON NORTH KING TO RESUME. FOR EDWARDS ROAD. THE CONTRACT THE CONTRACT FOR KIMLEY-HORN HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT CONTRACT IS GOING TO BE ON THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT AGENDA FOR NEXT TUESDAY. POETRY ROAD, THE RFQ. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE RFQ WAS APPROVED AT THE LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING SO THAT RFQ SHOULD BE POSTED THIS WEEK IS THE ANTICIPATION. SAME THING WITH THE COUNTY ROADS. THAT IS ALSO GOING TO BE ON THAT SAME RFQ. I-30 FROM DEL ROCK TO 205. THEY'VE BEEN BUSY THIS MONTH.

THE CURRENT ACTIVITIES INCLUDE PUNCH LISTS, CONSTRUCTING APPROACHES, AND PAINTING ON THE EASTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD. SUBSTRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION ON THE WESTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD, BRIDGE DECK, CONSTRUCTION AND PAINTING ON THE EASTBOUND MAIN LANE. WIDENING CONSTRUCTING APPROACHES EMBANKMENT AND SUBGRADE ON HORIZON ROAD BRIDGE. ASPHALT PAVING AND CONCRETE PAVING ON THE EASTBOUND FRONTAGE. ROAD REMOVALS, SUBGRADE AND DRAINAGE ON THE WESTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD. RETAINING WALL CONSTRUCTION, SUBGRADE EMBANKMENT, ASPHALT PAVING AND REMOVALS ON I-30. MAIN LANE WIDENING. AND THEN I-30 FROM 205 TO FM 2642 OR THE HUNT COUNTY LINE. CONCRETE PAVEMENT AND STRIPING ON THE FRONTAGE ROADS, ASPHALT AND CONCRETE PAVEMENT ON MAIN LANES FROM 205 TO JOHN KING INSTALLING DRAINAGE SUBGRADE, EMBANKMENT, ASPHALT UNDER UNDERLAYMENT AND CONCRETE PAVEMENT FROM ON FRONTAGE ROADS, EMBANKMENT, SUBGRADE, ASPHALT UNDERLAYMENT AND CONCRETE PAVEMENT ON MAIN LANES FROM FM 3000 549 TO ERBY. CAMPBELL RETAINING WALL CONSTRUCTION ON 30 OVERPASS AT BEND PAIN BRIDGE.

EXISTING WESTBOUND PAVEMENT REMOVALS. SUBGRADE EMBANKMENT. WESTBOUND ENTRANCE EXIT RAMPS.

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CONSTRUCTION AT FM 548 AND FM 2642 AND FM 35. BRIDGE SUBSTRUCTURE ON MAIN LANES FROM FM 548 TO 2642. SUBGRADE EMBANKMENT AND DRAINAGE ON NORTHBOUND LANES ALONG FM 548.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ERICA? NO QUESTIONS. AND I WILL SAY NICK IS ALSO HERE. I SEE HIM IN THE BACK. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR TEXDOT, I WAS GOING TO GET TO YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD, NICK? WELL PLAYED SIR, WISE MAN. OKAY, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, THEN LET'S GO AROUND THE ROOM. ROYSE CITY. WHAT WE ARE DOING. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ROCKWALL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO. JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. REALLY? YOU KNOW, THE I-30 CONSTRUCTION HAS IS REALLY IMPACTING SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THAT. SOME ARE BUSINESS IS FRUSTRATED WITH THAT, WITH THE WITH THE CHANGE IN THE SERVICE ROAD, SORT OF RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE, THE WALMART AREA, IF YOU WILL.

IT'S REALLY CAUSING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO HAVE SOME HAVOC. SO JUST WANT TO TELL HER, I MEAN, YOU GUYS EXPERIENCED IT. SO YOU KNOW THAT MOST OF YOU GO THROUGH ROCKWALL IF YOU DON'T LIVE IN ROCKWALL VOICE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEN LAKESHORE. WE ARE. I THINK WE'RE OUT FOR BID ON LAKESHORE, RIGHT? YES. WE'RE GOING TO DO LAKESHORE FROM MASTERS TO 66, AND WE JUST SOLD OUR BONDS ON TUESDAY FOR THAT. WHAT WAS THE NUMBER 26 MILLION? 28, 28 MILLION. SO WE'LL SPEND ALMOST AS MUCH IN THE CITY OF ROCKWALL AS THE ENTIRE COUNTY SPENDING. THAT'S JUST A FOOTNOTE. AND THEN WITH THAT MONEY, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME EXTRA. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME PROJECTS TO DO, LIKE MAYBE JUSTIN ROAD. WE REALLY NEED SOME WORK THERE. AND THEN THEN OUR STAFF IS LOOKING AT OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN RIGHT NOW. AND WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY ROADWAY THAT HAS NOT BEEN BUILT THAT IS ON OUR PLAN. AND SO WE'RE BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THAT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY FIRM NUMBERS YET, BUT BUT THAT'S A PROCESS THAT OUR STAFF HAS BEGUN NOW THAT WE'VE FINISHED OUR COMP PLAN. SO WE'LL WE ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE A BIG NUMBER, BUT WE'RE NOT READY TO SORT OF TALK ABOUT THAT JUST YET. OF COURSE, YOU ALL KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT VILLAGE DRIVE AND 205 REIMAGINING, WHICH WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT AND OUR STAFF IS WORKING ON. I DID WANT TO ASK ONE QUESTION, THOUGH, SINCE WE'RE ALL HERE AND THAT'S THE COMMUNICATION PROCESS BECAUSE I, MARY AND I MEET FREQUENTLY AND I KNOW YOU GUYS MADE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MADE A CHANGE. BUT AS THE MAYOR OF ROCKWALL, I NEVER GOT ANY FORMAL COMMUNICATION ABOUT YOUR CHANGE IN CONSULTANTS. SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S THE COMMUNICATION PROCESS TO COMMUNICATE WITH. I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER MAYORS GOT ANY FORMAL COMMUNICATION, BUT AS I SIT HERE TODAY, I STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING FORMAL FROM THE COUNTY LETTING ME KNOW ABOUT THE CHANGE YOU ALL ARE MAKING. WHAT IS THE PROCESS? SO THE PROCESS OF COMMUNICATION WITH WITH THE MAYORS? YEAH, WITH THE CITIES, BECAUSE MY CITY MANAGER DIDN'T GET ANY COMMUNICATION FORMALLY EITHER.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS. GOSH, I WOULD SAY THAT'S JUST PUTTING OUT OUR AGENDA. AND THAT IS ON THE AGENDA FOR TUESDAY. THAT CHANGE HAS NOT BEEN MADE YET. OKAY. WELL, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME SOME HAPPENINGS. THERE'S A LOT OF RUMOR MILL GOING AROUND, A LOT OF I KNOW YOU GUYS HAD A PUBLIC MEETING. I THINK OUR STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, KEEPS TRACK OF THAT. SO THEY, THEY GAVE ME A BRIEFING ON WHAT THEY HEARD PUBLICLY. BUT BUT I WOULD LIKE IN THE FUTURE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO DESIGNATE SOMEBODY TO CONTACT THE MAYORS AND PARTICULARLY MY CITY STAFF, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE WHEN BIG CONVERSATIONS LIKE THAT HAVE HAPPENED, IN CASE WE MISS IT, BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON PROJECTS AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH YOUR CURRENT CONSULTANT, AND WE'RE USING SOME OF OUR MONEY TO DO THOSE. AND THEN WHEN WE CONTACT CONSULTANTS AND, AND, AND WE HEAR WE'D RATHER NOT HEAR FROM CONSULTANTS THAT THERE MIGHT BE A CHANGE IN DIRECTION OR COMMUNICATION ON SOMETHING NEEDS TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE'D RATHER HEAR FROM OUR PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY RATHER THAN OUR CONSULTANTS. IF THAT'S FAIR. THAT IS FAIR. I AGREE WITH THAT. AND ALONG THAT SAME LINE, I'M GOING TO, AS SOON AS THE BUDGET'S DONE, RESTART MY MAYOR'S MEETINGS SO WE CAN ALL JUST GET IN THE SAME ROOM AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS. YEAH, I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT BUT THE, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ROADS. MOST IMPORTANT THING ON MY LIST IS BUILDING ROADS. SO WHEN I HEAR WE'RE CHANGING TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANTS, I'D LIKE TO GET. I'D LIKE FOR ME AND MY. I HAD TO SIT DOWN WITH MY STAFF. AND I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT THAT WE WEREN'T PREPARED FOR YOUR CHANGE. AND SO WE WANT TO BE PREPARED FOR THE CHANGE WHEN IT HAPPENS. AND WE WANT TO HAVE AN ORDERLY PROCESS AND, AND TO BE HONEST, AS A MAYOR OF THE LARGEST CITY IN THIS COUNTY, I

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IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SURPRISES AREN'T GREAT FOR US. OUR CITIZENS DON'T LIKE SURPRISES.

THEY LIKE PLANS AND PROCESSES. AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO BRING FOR THEM. SO JUST MY FEEDBACK, BUT THAT'S OUR UPDATE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LICHTY PRECINCT THREE. YEAH. APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. ABSOLUTELY. A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP. ONE WAS MENTIONED BY ERIC ALREADY. WE'RE ISSUING A. AND WE THERE'S THERE'S WE ARE ISSUING AN RFQ TO GET SOME MORE ENGINEERING CAPACITY TO IMPROVE OUR BUILDING ON ROADS. AND MAYOR, FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT YOU SAID, IN ORDER TO KEEP AHEAD WITH THE CITY OF ROCKWALL, KEEP AHEAD OF THEM. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ISSUE MORE BONDS. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE OF THE BIG REASONS IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND PROBABLY ABOUT $8 MILLION IN FUNDS, BOND FUNDS TO SIGN A CONTRACT WITH HALF TO DO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE OUTER LOOP. THAT'LL BE ABOUT $8 MILLION, SEVEN AND A HALF TO 8 MILLION. WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY FOR FROM OUR BOND FUNDS ALSO. SO WE NEED TO BE WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THAT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO IS I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY, IS WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE AROUND THIS TABLE. IF WE'RE NOT DOING THAT, WE'RE FAILING. AND I'VE GOT SOMETHING I WANTED TO HAND OUT HERE, NOT BECAUSE I HAVE A PROPOSAL, BUT JUST AS WE GET READY TO ISSUE MORE BONDS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND THAT THAT AFFECTS EVERY ONE OF THE CITIES ALSO AS WELL AS THE COUNTY, WE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT SOME STRATEGIC WAYS TO DO THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ENOUGH COPIES HERE, BUT IF YOU CAN PASS THOSE DOWN, AND THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT I'VE HAD OVER THE LAST WEEK WITH OUR COUNTY ENGINEER AND WITH OUR CONSULTANT, IT'S BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IS WE'VE GOT ROAD PROJECTS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE WHAT THEY CALL A RACK AND STACK. SOMEBODY USES THAT TERM WHERE WE GET ALL THE WORK DONE, AND THEN WE'RE WAITING FOR TXDOT TO FUND THEM.

WELL, ON AT LEAST THREE OF THESE PROJECTS LISTED HERE. 548, 551 AND 3097. THEY'RE NOT MOVING FOR ONE OF THE REASONS IS THERE'S NOT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION MONEY. SO OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY BEFORE YOU BUILD ROADS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH ERICA IN THE CONSULTANTS AND IS THE WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD SHIFT STRATEGIES AND TRY AND FOCUS ON ROADS WITH WHERE WE HAVE A HUGE NEED FOR IMPROVEMENT AND TRY AND THINK ABOUT ACQUIRING SOME RIGHT OF WAY. AGAIN, I'M NOT FAR ENOUGH ALONG. WE'RE NOT FAR ENOUGH ALONG BECAUSE IT'S NOT A DECISION THAT I MAKE OR ANYBODY MAKES. WE ALL NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS TOGETHER, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT. INSTEAD OF DOING PS AND E ON SOME ROADS, ACQUIRE SOME RIGHT OF WAY THAT MIGHT GET TXDOT TO PUT UP MORE MONEY FOR THAT. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, IN 2021, TXDOT SPENT $800 MILLION. THE DALLAS DISTRICT JUST THE DALLAS DISTRICT SPENT $800 MILLION ON RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. THE BUDGET FOR 2026 WAS 350 MILLION. THE BUDGET FOR 2027 IS 195 MILLION. SO THERE'S BEEN A HUGE REDUCTION IN RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION FUNDS. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN'T BUILD ROADS IF YOU DON'T ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO DON'T HAVE A PROPOSAL. BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO COMMUNICATE. WELL, MAYOR, AS YOU SAID, AND, AND I THINK THE WHAT THE WHAT WAS SET UP TWO DECADES AGO IN THIS COUNTY WAS THIS ROAD CONSORTIUM. AND WE'RE TRYING TO CONVERT TO AN INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORTIUM. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS IN HERE. AND I WANTED TO GET THIS OUT AGAIN, NOT BECAUSE I HAVE A PROPOSAL, BUT WE PROBABLY WILL BE ISSUING BONDS HERE AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND I THINK THAT ADDRESSING IT AND MAYBE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT STRATEGIES IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER AT THAT TIME. AND THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR TONIGHT, JUDGE. ALL RIGHT. MITCH, ARE YOU GOING TO DEFER TO YOUR MAYOR? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. CITY OF FAITH. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I SHARED THIS WITH YOU ALL BEFORE, BUT WE BUILT A WE REALIZED WE HAD $1 BILLION TO TO REDO OUR ROADS. DID I TALK ABOUT THIS? YOU REALIZED YOU HAVE $1 BILLION OR. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED THAT BEFORE. IF YOU TAKE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF OUR ROADS AND YOU FIGURE OUT WHEN YOU PUT YOUR WORDS TOGETHER, THIS ACTUALLY PUTS TOGETHER A LITTLE GRAPH. WHEN THEY WHEN THE

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DEVELOPERS GIVE YOU YOUR ROADS, FAST FORWARD 40 YEARS, THAT'S WHEN THE ROAD DIES. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE GRAPH. WE PUT TOGETHER ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPLACEMENT COST, 4.5 MILLION PER MILE, THAT'S EVERYTHING. WATER, SEWER, LANDSCAPING, IRRIGATION, TREES, PATH. AND SO IF YOU ADD UP THE NUMBER OF ROAD MILES. IT'S GOING TO BE $1 BILLION OVER THE NEXT 40 YEARS. AND SO WE PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE FUNDING MODEL. YOU CAN GET TO IT ON OUR WEBSITE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. I'LL SEND IT TO THE MANAGERS IN THE YOU CAN PLAY WITH IT. SO WE BUILT WE BUILT IT WITH PERPLEXITY AI, HELPING US WITH SOME OF THE FORMULAS, SHOWED IT TO OUR ENGINEER AND THEN OMAR, MY ASSISTANT, BUILT THE. THE GUI INTERFACE WITH CLOUD AI. AND YOU CAN GO IN HERE AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S LIKE A GAME. THE OBJECT OF THE GAME IS YOUR FUND, YOUR ROADS. FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND YOUR ROADS SO YOU CAN CHANGE HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO PAY PER MILE. YOU CAN, YOU CAN PUT IN DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND ESSENTIALLY YOU GET TO THE END AND THEN YOU PUT IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT FUNKY THINGS. AND THEN IT'LL, IT'LL TELL YOU HOW YOU RUN SCENARIOS. SO ANYWAY, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN PLAY WITH IT. SO THAT'S ON THE CITY WEBSITE. CITY WEBSITE. I'LL SEND IT TO THE CITY MANAGERS AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. YOU GUYS CAN HAVE SOME FUN WITH IT. TRY TO SOLVE THE THE LONG TERM PROBLEM. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT WE'RE BUILDING ROADS AND WE OWN THESE ROADS. BUT SOMEDAY WHEN THEY GO BAD, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THEM.

THAT'S ASSUMING WE ALSO DO MAINTENANCE. I KNOW NICK IS HERE AND HE'S STRUGGLING WITH MAINTENANCE MONEY FOR SOME OF THESE ROADS. LIKE WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP ALL OF THESE ROADS FUNCTIONING WITH MAINTENANCE IN TIME FOR EVENTUALLY TO UPGRADE THEM.

THAT'LL BE THAT'LL BE OUR CHALLENGE. AND I LOVE THE, I LOVE THE PRESENTATION ON THE DRAINAGE, THE, A LOT OF OUR TOWNS STRUGGLE WITH TRYING TO GET A REGIONAL DRAINAGE, NOT LIKE REGIONAL, REGIONAL, LIKE MULTI-CITY, BUT LIKE REGIONAL DRAINAGE. HOW DO YOU GET LIKE A DOWNTOWN RATHER THAN MAKING EVERYBODY DO THEIR OWN LITTLE DRAINAGE POND, WHICH MAKES NO SENSE. HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU WORK AT THE CITY LEVEL TO PUT DRAINAGE IN ONE, ONE BIG SPOT FOR ONE AREA, ONE BIG SPOT FOR ANOTHER. SO THAT'LL BE OUR CHALLENGE. AND THEN JUST GETTING PEOPLE TO PAY FOR DRAINAGE. THAT'S THE KEY. THAT IS THE KEY. NOBODY WANTS TO PAY FOR IT NOW UNTIL THEY GET FLOODED. YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S FUN. YEP. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT ALL IN FAITH. ALL RIGHT. MCLENDON CHISHOLM, COUNCILMAN POWERS. FORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY BILLION DOLLAR PROBLEMS THAT I'M AWARE OF CURRENTLY. AND OUR OUR CITIZENS DON'T LIKE SURPRISES ANYMORE THAN OURS DO, BUT THEY DO, GET ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SO ANYWAY, WE HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE. THE ONLY ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PROGRESS IN CHISHOLM IS ROAD, WHICH RUNS FROM EDWARDS TO. THAT'S ON THE SOUTH EAST SIDE OF SONOMA VERDE, THAT PORTION OF LEE ROAD. WE DO CONTINUE WITH OUR OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ALONG 205. WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED THAT THAT'S BEEN UP A YEAR, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT 205 EXPANSION. BEING FROM CALIFORNIA, I LIKE TO CALL IT THE 205, BUT I KEEP GETTING CORRECTED. SO IT'S STATE HIGHWAY 205. ANYWAY, WE IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE JUST VOTED AND APPROVED A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR TRACTOR SUPPLY TO COME TO THE CHISHOLM. THAT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT UP 205 FROM THE NORTH ON THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF 205 FIVE. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THAT'S GOING TO BE A 200 ZERO SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE A MAGNET FOR EVEN MORE DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW WE HAVE THAT 7-ELEVEN GOING IN NOW. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT'S DOING BASICALLY A PRETTY DEEP, PRETTY LARGE UNITS ALONG 205 ON THE ON THE EAST SIDE OR THE NORTHEAST SIDE. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. WE'RE WE'RE REMODELING THE OLD FIRE STATION FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE HOPE TO EXPAND SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, SO WE CAN START TAKING CARE OF SOME OF THE REPAIRS OURSELVES INSTEAD OF HAVING TO SUB OUT ALL THE TIME. SO SMALL TOWN, SMALL TOWN ISSUES. WONDERFUL. COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE AN AGENDA? I'D LIKE TO SAY KUDOS TO MACLENNAN CHISHOLM. ON ANOTHER FRONT, YOU GUYS HAVE MADE HUGE PROGRESS ON YOUR

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PARKS DEPARTMENT AND WORKING ON OPEN SPACES IN THE CITY. MOVED REALLY FAST ON THAT. AND JUST CONGRATS TO YOU GUYS. YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THAT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER STACY PRECINCT FOUR. YEAH, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I, I DEFINITELY GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MAYOR, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM PROUD TO KNOW THAT I DID REACH OUT TO BOTH OF MY CITIES THE DAY THAT WE DECIDED TO ENGAGE IN THE CONTRACT TO BOTH MY CITY MANAGERS, EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT WAS GOING ON, OPEN MYSELF UP TO TALK TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WANTED TO DO IT. SO DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT. AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT EVERYONE'S TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO BUILD ROADS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE DEMANDING OF US. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY ARE. THAT'S IT, MR. MAYOR. VERY GOOD. LAST MEETING, I WENT OVER SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. THE ONLY THING TO TO POINT OUT IS WE'RE STILL WORKING ON HYBRID DRIVE. IT'S A BIG THOROUGHFARE TO GET OUT TO THE WATERWAY.

WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE TO CONCLUDE THAT. AND THE TRAIL ON HUBBARD DRIVE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THANKS TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, WE ARE IN FULL DESIGN FOR OUR SIDEWALK, WHICH THE CITY IS PUTTING MONEY IN TO MAKE THAT A TRAIL. SO EXCITED TO SEE THOSE THINGS COME INTO FRUITION. THE ONE QUESTION THAT I DO HAVE IS ON MIDDLE 205. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUESTION WOULD BE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, ALSO FOR THE FOR THE MAYOR OF ROCKWALL ON THAT. I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOCALLY PREFERRED VERSUS THE TECHNICAL PREFERRED. WHERE ARE WE AT WITH TXDOT ON THAT SELECTION PROCESS? WELL, 205 MIDDLE, I DON'T KNOW. AT. 549 I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A. MAYOR FROM JOHN CAME TO JOHN. YEAH. ISN'T IT? IS IT IS IT ISN'T THE QUESTION ON 205, IF IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE OR IF IT'S GOING TO GO UP. JOHN KING WELL, THAT'S A YES. WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH TEX-DOT. WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH TXDOT. I'LL CALL IT A CONTENTIOUS CONVERSATION. AND THE WHAT, WHAT TXDOT ESSENTIALLY SAID IN THAT MEETING, AND I'LL PARAPHRASE, WAS THAT THAT THAT 205 MIDDLE WAS ESSENTIALLY SHORT DOLLARS. THEY HAD GOTTEN MOVED TO ANOTHER PROJECT. THEY ALSO SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T SEE THE DOLLAR. THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE DOLLARS TO CONVERT 205 TO JOHN KING. THEY WE WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STANDARD AT WHICH JOHN KING WAS BUILT. OF COURSE, OUR STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF LOOKING INTO OUR ARCHIVES AND VERIFIED THAT AT THE TIME JOHN KING WAS BUILT, IT WAS BUILT TO THE STANDARDS THAT WE WERE GIVEN. AND SO WE HAD A REALLY LONG CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT ABOUT LOOKING AT 205, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND REDO THE PAVEMENT. THEY REALLY THOUGHT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, 205 BETWEEN JOHN KING AND BETWEEN 205 AND 205 ALONG JOHN KING NEEDED TO BE ONE PROJECT, AND WE ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT BIFURCATING THE PROJECT. IF THEY DID THAT, BECAUSE THE RAILROAD, THEY SAID THAT THE 205 PROJECT WAS ON THE BACK HALF OF A TEN YEAR PLAN.

COMMISSIONER MCCULLOCH WAS THERE. THEIR EXACT WORDS WERE 205 MIDDLES ON THE BACK END OF A TEN YEAR PLAN. AND I SAID, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND THEY SAID, THAT MEANS IT'S THE BACK END OF A TEN YEAR PLAN. I GO, WHAT DOES THAT. WHEN WILL YOU TURN DIRT? AND THEY SAID, EIGHT YEARS. ABOUT EIGHT YEARS WILL TURN OUR FIRST DIRT FOR 205 MIDDLE. IS THAT PRETTY MUCH A DIRECT QUOTE? OKAY, SO WHEN THAT HAPPENED, I'LL JUST USE THE EXPRESSION ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE. AND TO, TO LACK OF A BETTER TERM, I TOLD THEM THAT THAT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE AT THE CORNER OF JOHN KING IN 205, THERE WILL BE 4000 HOMES WITHIN THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS, THREE OR 3500 OF THOSE ARE PLATTED ALREADY. AND AND SO THE REST OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE BETWEEN MCLENDON, CHISHOLM AND, AND, AND US. SO SO WE AGREED THAT THEY WOULD GO BACK, RECHECK THE PAVEMENT ON, DO A PAVEMENT SCAN OR WHATEVER ON JOHN KING. WE'LL COME BACK AND, AND THAT WE WOULD WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT AN EQUITABLE PLAN. WE ARE WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT MEETING YET, BUT I UNDERSTAND MICHAEL MORRIS HAS GOTTEN INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR US. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE WAITING ON SOME ON SOME WORK FROM THE RTC TO WORK WITH TXDOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE REST OF THAT FUNDING CAN BE DONE. CAN THEY BIFURCATE THE PROJECT AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE THE RAILROAD, AS YOU KNOW, IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 30. SO CAN THEY DO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT PROJECT AND THEN TAKE THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROJECT WHEN THE RAILROAD PERMIT GETS DONE? SO,

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SO YES, WE STILL WOULD LIKE THAT MOVE TO HAPPEN, BUT AT THIS POINT WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE REIMAGINING OF 205. BECAUSE IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE ACROSS TOWN. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE REIMAGINING OF 205. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH.

THANK YOU. BUT THE SCARY THING FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY SHOULD BE THAT THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT AS OF TODAY IS THAT 205 IS ON MIDDLE IS ON THE BACK HALF OF A TEN YEAR PLAN. AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN WHEN I MET WITH WITH SUSAN AND YOU, YOU YOU HEARD SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR. OKAY, GREAT. BUT I WE HADN'T TIED OUT AND I HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYBODY AT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ABOUT IT. AND THAT WILL HURT YOUR CITY. MCCLENDON. CHISHOLM YOU KNOW, OF COURSE US IN ROCKWALL A BIG PROBLEM. IT WILL BE A BIG PROBLEM. BUT MAYOR'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM TALKING WITH MICHAEL MORRIS IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONSIDERATION CHANGES WITH SEASON AND THAT IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROBABLY ADDRESS MANY OF THOSE TOPICS. YEAH, I HOPE SO. I MEAN, WE WE ASKED I HEARD VERY POSITIVE COMMENTS. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S FANTASTIC. AND WE, WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING UP THE LADDER A LITTLE BIT. IF WE HAD TO AT THE TXDOT CHAIN, OF COURSE, THE TXDOT REPRESENTATIVES, THEIR WORDS WERE THEY WOULD BE OFFENDED IF WE DID THAT. BUT THAT'S HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS. THAT'S HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THINGS.

BUT DANA AND MARY CAN TELL YOU, THEY LITERALLY WERE OFFENDED THAT WE WOULD EVEN THINK ABOUT TRYING TO MOVE OUR COUNTRY FORWARD UP THE LADDER. BUT BUT MICHAEL, I DON'T THINK ENOUGH TO GET HIM DOWN. I THINK THAT THERE WAS HE GOT INVOLVED. YEAH. SO I THINK WE'RE HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO HEAD IT. WE ARE GOING TO RECONVENE ANOTHER MEETING OF THAT SAME GROUP AND HOPEFULLY HAVE DIFFERENT NEWS. SO SO I WOULD SAY LET ME HELP WITH THAT. SO THE COMMUNICATION THAT DIDN'T GO THAT WAY. YOU HAD TWO COMMISSIONERS IN THAT MEETING. SO. WELL, LET ME LET ME HELP WITH THAT. RIGHT. SO I'D BE HAPPY BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE ENTIRE COUNTY. WELL, WHAT I SAID TO THEM WAS IT'S THE BIGGEST LIE IN ROCKWALL. THAT 205 IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, 205 MIDDLE, MIDDLE. BECAUSE PEOPLE SEE UTILITIES MOVING, THEY SEE ALL THIS STUFF. THEY THINK, OH, THINGS ARE HAPPENING, BUT THINGS AREN'T HAPPENING. YEAH, WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE NOT SAID THE METALS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. NO, NO, I KNOW, BUT THIS IS WHAT CITIZENS THEY, THEY JUST SAY THEY SEE SIGNS AND THEY BELIEVE THAT MEANS PROGRESS IS COMING. WE'RE GOING TO START POURING CONCRETE, BUT WE'RE NOT. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER MITCHELL. WELL, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. BUT YES, I DO THINK THAT SOME OF THE CHANGES RECENTLY AT NETCOM HAVE BEEN A POSITIVE MOVE. AND I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION MYSELF WITH WITH MICHAEL MORRIS. AND HE IS COMMITTED TO ROCKWALL COUNTY. I REALLY BELIEVE HE IS. AND AND AND HE UNDERSTANDS WE'VE GOT CHANGES AND, AND THINGS THAT ARE BEING, YOU KNOW, MOVED, BUT THEY'RE ALL FOR POSITIVE. AND WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING AS EVERYBODY AT THIS TABLE HAS SAID. WE WANT TO BUILD ROADS.

AND I THINK HE IS GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF US IN EVERY WAY. I CONCUR WITH YOU. HE'S BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR OUR COUNTY AND A GOOD SUPPORT SYSTEM. AND HE'S YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WE'RE DOING THE THE VILLAGE DRIVE AND THE BRIDGE IS BECAUSE OF HIM, FRANKLY. YEAH. $12 MILLION OF THAT PROJECT CAME FROM HIM OR HIS BUCKETS. SO AND THAT'S A $15 MILLION PROJECT.

SO SAVED OUR TAXPAYERS $12 MILLION FOR A BRIDGE THAT HAS TO BE REPLACED SO THAT IT DOESN'T COLLAPSE ON SOMEBODY. THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS. SO HE'S AN ADVOCATE FOR US AND HAS HELPED US. AND SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FOSTER THAT. HE DOES. JUDGE, HE DOES WANT TO COME BACK AND TALK AT THIS MEETING. AND I TOLD HIM THAT I WOULD GET WITH YOU AND FIND OUT A POSSIBLE DATE, THAT WE COULD GET HIM BACK HERE SO THAT HE CAN KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE ON, ON, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'LL BE IT'LL BE A YEAR IN OCTOBER THAT HE WAS HERE. YEAH, IT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. HAPPY T

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.