* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WELCOME. I'M GONNA CALL OUR ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER. IT IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2026, 9:00 AM I'M GONNA ASK COMMISSIONER STACY TO LEAD US IN OUR INDICATION THEN I'LL LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGES. PLEASE STAND AS YOU ARE ABLE. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE BOW WITH ME. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND DISCUSS THE BUSINESS OF THIS GREAT COUNTY. WE THANK YOU FOR GRANTING A STEWARDSHIP OVER THE BUSINESS AND ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE WISDOM THROUGHOUT OUR DISCUSSIONS TODAY. PLEASE BE WITH ALL OF OUR MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN, HOME AND ABROAD AND THEIR FAMILIES, ALONG WITH ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. I PRAY A SPECIAL BLESSING OVER THOSE WHO STAND IN THE GAP FOR OUR SAFETY AND OUR FREEDOMS. AND IT IS IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. LET'S PLEDGE OUR ALLEGIANCE TO THE AMERICAN FLAG. ALRIGHT. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. NOW THE TEXAS FLAG, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. GOD BLESS TEXAS. GOD BLESS, TEXAS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO [1.A) Proclamation - Domestic Violence Awareness Month - Women In Need] AGENDA ITEM ONE, RECOGNITION AND PRESENTATION. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION DECLARING OCTOBER DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM WOMEN IN NEED. MS. KRISTEN OSTERTAG. THANK YOU. WELCOME. THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS OF ROCKWELL COUNTY FOR HAVING US HERE AND FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE THIS PROCLAMATION AGAIN, UM, KIND OF IN ADVANCE OF OCTOBER BEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH. AND ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO YOU, UM, COMING AND TOURING OUR SHELTER THIS AFTERNOON. FOR THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALSO THAT WIND'S MISSION RECENTLY CHANGED AND THE BOARD HAS APPROVED FOR US TO BE A DUAL SHELTER. SO NOW WE ARE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT. THAT WAS A GAP THAT WE SAW IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE COULD FILL. AND SO WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THE LOCAL AGENCIES TO BE ABLE TO OFFER SHELTER WHERE IF THEY WERE SEXUAL ASSAULT ONLY, WE COULDN'T. SO YOU'LL BE SEEING US AGAIN IN APRIL FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. JUST A LITTLE TEASER. SO OUR NEW MISSION IS WOMEN IN NEED PROVIDES COMPREHENSIVE SUPPORT TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES IMPACTED BY DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE, THROUGH SHELTER ADVOCACY, EDUCATION, AND COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS THAT PROMOTE SAFETY, HEALING, AND HOPE. ONE IN THREE WOMEN WILL BE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN THEIR LIFE AND ONE IN SIX MEN FOR WOMEN IN NEED. WE ACTUALLY SEE ABOUT ONE IN 10 OF OUR CLIENTS, UM, THAT COME THROUGH OUR DOORS AS A MALE. SO EVEN THOUGH WE ARE WOMEN IN NEED, WE WILL OFTEN USE THE ACRONYM WIN TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE WITH OUR CLIENTS. AND THEN WE ARE ALSO WANTED TO SHARE OUR STATS. BED NIGHTS REFER TO HOW MANY PEOPLE SPENT THEIR HEAD ON A PILLOW WITH US IN THE SHELTER. LAST YEAR WE HAD 3,438 BED NIGHTS IN OUR SHELTER. WOW. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SERVICES THAT ARE GIVEN TO CLIENTS, THAT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM A PHONE CALL TO COURT ACCOMPANIMENT TO EMERGENCY SHELTER FOR THE PARENT OR THE CHILD. LAST YEAR WE SERVED 13,865 INDIVIDUAL SERVICES TO OUR CLIENTS. SO THANK YOU ROCKWELL COUNTY FOR RECOGNIZING OCTOBER AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH. WE ARE THANKFUL FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE WITH YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, KRISTEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT. ALSO, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION, UH, DECLARING OCTOBER 4TH THROUGH 10TH AS NATIONAL FOUR H WEEK. COMMISSIONER M**K. THANK YOU, JUDGE. UM, AND I SHELLEY, WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE, WOULD YOU OR ANY THE GUY LADIES LIKE TO COME UP HERE? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND DO YOU WANNA INTRODUCE EVERYONE FIRST BEFORE I READ THIS? I WILL LET THEM INTRODUCE SELVES FIRST. OKAY. OKAY. THEY CAN DO IT. SO, UH, WE HAVE THREE YOUNG LADIES FROM ROCKWALL COUNTY, FOUR H IF YOU'D SAY YOUR NAME, YOUR CLUB, AND A PROJECT YOU'RE INVOLVED IN, UM, AND LET THEM KNOW. IN YOUR CASE, YOU CAN SAY ALL YOUR PROJECTS, YOU CAN GO FIRST INTO THE MICRO. UH, HI, I AM RYANNA JONES. UM, THE CLUB I'M IN IS BUSY BEES. UM, I'M IN FOUR H HEALTHY TEXAS YOUTH AMBASSADOR, AND WE ALSO HAVE A NEW GARDEN PROJECT THAT SHELLY IS LEADING AND I AM ALSO IN. SO GOOD. NOW WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY OLD ROCK WALL COMING UP HERE. NOT THAT YOU'RE OLD, BUT YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR HERITAGE IS, SO YOU MAY WANNA USE THAT NAME AS WELL. UM, I'M JACQUELINE POLAND AND I'M THE SHORT ROUND ROPERS AND WE'RE LIKE PART OF THE HORSE STUFF. I AM TRUET POIN AND I'M PART OF THE SHORT ROUND ROPERS AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. GOOD, THANK [00:05:01] YOU. WELL, WITH THAT, I WILL READ THIS PROCLAMATION, UM, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER, EVERYONE HERE. WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S NATIONAL FOUR H WEEK THEME IS BEYOND READY. IT REMINDS US THAT FOUR H IS BUILDING A READY GENERATION IN A WORLD OF CHANGE AND IT EQUIPS YOUNG PEOPLE WITH THE SKILLS FOR THE FUTURE WHILE MEETING THEM WHERE THEY ARE TODAY. WHEREAS FOUR H IS AMERICA'S LARGEST YOUTH DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION SUPPORTING 6 MILLION YOUTH ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND WHEREAS FOUR H PROGRAMS ARE DELIVERED BY THE COOPERATIVE EXTENSION SYSTEM, A COMMUNITY OF MORE THAN 100 PUBLIC LAND GRANT COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ACROSS THE NATION, THAT PROVIDES THE EXPERIENCES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO LEARN BY DOING. WHEREAS FOUR H IN IS IN EVERY CITY AND COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES, AND IT HELPS 6 MILLION YOUTH BECOME ENGAGED, SUCCESSFUL, AND INDEPENDENT. AND WHEREAS FOUR H CONNECTS YOUNG PEOPLE AND ADULTS TO THEIR COMMUNITIES, PREPARING THEM FOR WORK AND LIFE THROUGH EXPERIE, THROUGH EXPERI EXPERIMENTAL AND INQUIRY-BASED LEARNING, WHILE PROVIDING EMERGING RESEARCH FOR POSITIVE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEREAS EXPANDING FROM ITS STRONG AGRICULTURAL ROOTS, FOUR H HELPS YOUNG PEOPLE EXPLORE THE WORLD AROUND THEM AND GROW INTO PRODUCTIVE ADULTS. AND WHEREAS SUPPORTING FUTURE LEADERS IN SCIENCE, AGRICULTURE AND COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP IS AN IMPORTANT IMPERATIVE FOR THE US DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF FOOD AND AGRICULTURAL FOUR H PROGRAM. AND NOW, THEREFORE, ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER THE FOURTH THROUGH THE 10TH OF 2026 AS NATIONAL FOUR H WEEK THROUGHOUT ROCKWALL COUNTY AND ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE FOUR H FOR THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IT HAS MADE AND CONTINUES TO MAKE BY EMPOWERING YOUTH WITH THE SKILLS THEY NEED TO LEAD FOR A LIFETIME. CONGRATULATIONS. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND, AND YOUR COMMUNITY EFFORT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM TWO, PUBLIC FORUM. IT'S THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COURT REGARDING ANY COUNTY MATTERS. NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP, BUT THAT DOES NOT PREVENT YOU. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEAK, THEY CAN COME FORWARD. NOW. SCENE NO ONE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM [3.A) Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the Courthouse Courtroom additions 3rd floor project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)] THREE. ACTION ITEMS. AGENDA ITEM THREE, A DISCUSSING ACT ON UPDATES IN PROGRESS RELATED TO THE COURTHOUSE, COURTROOM ADDITIONS, THIRD FLOOR PROJECT, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER ALANA, MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE UPDATE AND PROGRESS OFF BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST UP UPDATE GOING NOWHERE. MAYBE YOU JUST SAY UPDATE. YEAH, YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WAITING ON ONE, ONE THING. WE'RE WAITING ON THE AUDIT TO BE COMPLETED OF THE PROJECT AND WE ARE STILL WAITING. YEP. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE FOR, FOR THOSE FOLLOWING AT HOME. WE ARE DONE WITH THE PROJECT. YEAH. PROJECT'S FINISHED. IT'S BEEN FINISHED. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE WRAP UP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM [3.B) Discuss/Act on updates and progress related to the Sheriff's remodel, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] THREE B, DISCUSS AND ACT ON UPDATES AND PROGRESS RELATED TO THE SHERIFF'S REMODEL AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY, THERE ARE A FEW UPDATES. UH, OUR DISPATCH FURNITURE HAS BEEN RECEIVED. FURNITURE IS BEING DELIVERED AND ASSEMBLED ON SITE RIGHT NOW. UM, BARRY GOT THE GENERATOR TESTED AND WORKING. SO THAT WAS A BIG THING. THAT WAS A KIND OF A, A SIDE QUEST OF THIS PROJECT, BUT IT WAS DONE AND IT WAS TESTED AND IT DOES WORK. UM, SO THAT'S EXCITING. AND, UH, WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A ANOTHER PCO WHICH IS, WHICH IS NEXT, BUT, UM, WE'RE ABOUT TO WORK THROUGH ALL OF OUR ELECTRICAL AND DATA AND, UH, FURNITURE ISSUES THAT ALWAYS HAPPEN WHEN YOU ORDER FURNITURE AND INSTALL FURNITURE AND THERE'S ALWAYS THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK THROUGH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING MOST OF THE HEAVY LIFTING'S DONE. UM, OTHER THAN MOVING DISPATCH BACK TO ITS PERMANENT LOCATION THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR EARLY OCTOBER, THAT'S KIND OF OUR LAST BIG MOVEMENT. OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S JUST FINISHING UP A PROJECT LIKE YOU WOULD FINISH UP. ANYTHING ELSE, JUST, UM, BUTTON UP THE HATCHES SO TO SPEAK. BUT, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. SO IT'S, IT'S MOVING ALONG AND WE DO THINK THAT IT, IT'S SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS AROUND MID-OCTOBER AND WE'RE STILL KIND OF ON PACE TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER STACY? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. WE'LL MOVE ON TO [3.C) Discuss/Act on approving Prime Contract Change Order No. 040 to the agreement with SCI Construction for the Rockwall County Sheriff Office Renovation project, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] AGENDA ITEM THREE C, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING PRIME CONTRACT CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 0 4 0 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH SCI CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ROCKWELL COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE RENOVATION PROJECT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY? YEAH, SO THIS IS A $20,282 CHANGE ORDER, WHICH DOES TAKE US RIGHT AT SIX GRAND LEFT IN THE PROJECT. WE'RE AT THE, THE FINAL SPOTS, BUT WE ALSO ARE, ARE ALMOST OUT OF MONEY. UM, IN THE SCI CONTRACT. THE OWNER'S SIDE DOES HAVE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OWNER'S ALLOWANCES WORKING ON THE OTHER SIDE FOR APPLIANCES AND SOME OF THE STUFF WE HAVEN'T PURCHASED YET. BUT AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION IN THE PROJECT, THIS PRETTY [00:10:01] MUCH DRAINS THE REST OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE. THIS IS TAKING CARE OF A FEW MAJOR ISSUES. THE FIRE ALARM IS ONE OF THEM. FINALLY SEPARATING THE GEL FROM OPERATIONS IS, IS A BIG PART OF THIS PROJECT. UM, BUILDING THE BUILDING, WE NOTICED THERE WERE A COUPLE SPOTS WHERE THERE'S A LITTLE DARK, SO WE'RE MODIFYING SOME OF THE LIGHTS THAT WERE PUT IN THERE. THERE WAS SOME AS BUILD CHANGES THAT, THAT WERE DOING. WE HAD A, UH, AN, AN AC DRAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMEONE'S OFFICE THAT WE ARE DRYWALLING UP AND MAKING SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. AND THEN THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF ELECTRICAL WORK. SO THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY ENCOMPASSING THIS CHANGE ORDER IS KIND OF THE LAST OF THE, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION STUFF THAT WE SEE. AND NOW WE'RE, WE'RE PAINTING AND TRIMMING OUT AND TRYING TO PUT IT ALL BACK TOGETHER, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I JUST, YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WE'RE GONNA, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 6,000 LEFT OVER IN THE, IN THE, IN, IN, IN THE, IN THE SCI CONTRACT. YES, THAT'S IN THE CONTINGENCY. YEAH. SO WE HAVE ABOUT 6,000 LEFT IN, IN THAT PART. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY IS SO INCLINED. OH, I HAD ONE MORE THING TO SAY. UH, CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 39 IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE. SO WE HAD 38 AND 40 IF YOU, BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THE OCO IN THEIR SYSTEM, 39 BECAME A PCO. IT'S JUST HOW THEIR SYSTEM KEEPS TRACK OF EVERYTHING. SO, UM, IT WAS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK, WE'LL APPROVE 38 AND THEN WE'LL APPROVE 40, BUT THERE WILL BE NO 39. SO THERE ISN'T ONE. WE'RE WORKING ON , WE'RE CURRENTLY NOT DRAFTING A PCO AT THIS TIME. SO WITH THAT JUDGE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, UM, UH, PRIME CONTRACT CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 40 TO THE AGREEMENT WITH SCI CONSTRUCTION. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA [3.D) Discuss/Act on selecting a winning bid for the District Attorney Expansion project and begin contract negotiations, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] ITEM 3D, DISCUSS AND ACT ON SELECTING A WINNING BID FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY EXPANSION PROJECT AND BEGIN CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY, I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO MASON FROM PARK HILL TO GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS. GOOD MORNING MASON FROM PARK HILL? YES, SIR. OKAY, WELCOME. MASON SAL AND I GO WAY BACK, SO HE TRUSTED ME TO COME UP HERE AND INSTEAD. ALL RIGHT, WELL DONE. GOOD. WELL DONE. ALRIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. GOOD MORNING. UM, WE RECEIVED PLENTY OF BIDS FOR THE PROJECT, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BID IS SCI CONSTRUCTION. THEY HAVE AN AMOUNT, THEY DO, IT IS $502,000 FOR THE BASE BID. AND WE'RE, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT NUMBER? YES, WE, WE'VE, WE THINK THEY HAVE EVERYTHING COVERED. YES. UM, WITH THAT AMOUNT, IT, WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS PROPER FOR THE AMOUNT OR FOR THE PROJECT. OKAY. UM, WITH THE PARK HILL MONEY, WHAT DOES THAT BRING THE TOTAL ALL IN COST OF THE PROJECT TO, I DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I BELIEVE IT'S 760 WITH THE PARK HILL MONEY AND THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS SOMEWHERE IN THAT BALLPARK. AND THEN THE LAST THING WOULD BE FURNITURE, UM, AND FURNITURE. WE'RE ESTIMATING RIGHT NOW TO BE 150,000, BUT WE HAVE, WE THAT'S AN ALLOWANCE. YEAH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE DETAILS OF ORDERING IT OR PUTTING IT TOGETHER. SO ALL IN YOU'RE THINKING WE'RE ABOUT 900,000? YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. THANKS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. HOLD, HOLD UP MASON. I THINK WE, UH, HAVE SOME ACTION HERE THAT'S REQUIRED. SO, UH, JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH SCI FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY EXPANSION PROJECT. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. I'LL SECOND IT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU, MASON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND AGENDA ITEM [3.E) Discuss/Act on a Proclamation at the request of the County Extension Agents, Todd Williams and Aimee Sandifeer to declare October 4-10 as "National 4-H Week" in Rockwall County, and all related issues; (Commissioner Macalik)] THREE E. WE COVERED UP IN RECOGNITION AND PRESENTATION. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM THREE [3.F) Discuss/Act on approving the EBSCO subscription renewals for the County Library, and all related issues; (Commissioner LIechty)] F, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE EBSCO SUBSCRIPTION RENEWALS FOR THE COUNTY LIBRARY AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LTI. OKAY, THANKS JUDGE. I DON'T SEE, UH, MARCINE HERE. THESE ARE SUBSCRIPTIONS THAT WERE BUDGETED AT OUR LAST TIME. AND, UM, THEY ESSENTIALLY BRING US, UH, HERE'S, THEY BRING SUBSCRIPTIONS TO CONSUMER REPORTS REMOTE ACCESS NOVEL LIST, WHICH INTEGRATES INTO OUR ONLINE CATALOG TO PROVIDE ENHANCEMENTS SUCH AS COVER IMAGES, SUMMARIES, REVIEWS, AND MORE BOOKS LIKE THIS ON THE LIST. THESE ARE INCLUDED IN THE DATA SERVICES ITEM IN THE BUDGET. WONDERFUL. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE EBSCO SUBSCRIPTION RENEWALS FOR THE COUNTY LIBRARY. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LTI. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT [00:15:01] PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA [3.G) Discuss/Act on updated election day locations, and all related issues; (Judge New - Elections Administrator)] ITEM 3G, DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE UPDATED ELECTION DAY LOCATIONS AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. HERE WE GO. COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES 'CAUSE YOU ARE NOT CHRIS LYNCH. UM, I'M SARAH DIMO. I'M THE DEPUTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR. CHRIS COULDN'T BE HERE. HE'S HAVING PLUMBING PROBLEMS AT HIS HOUSE, SO. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS, I'M, I'M, UH, SARAH, I'M GOING TO ATTEMPT, UH, TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THE SHORES, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR STANDARD VOTING LOCATIONS ON ELECTION DAY IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO USE THEIR FACILITY. UH, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE, NOT SPECIFICALLY THAT FACILITY, BUT A FACILITY TO MAINTAIN OUR STATUS AS A VOTING CENTER COUNTY. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION SOMEWHERE. AND THE EASIEST PLACE TO ACHIEVE THAT WAS IN A BUILDING WE OWN WHERE WE CAN CONTROL ACCESS, WHICH IS THIS BUILDING. UM, SO IT, IT, WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING, AND THIS IS ELECTION DAY ONLY, HAVING AN ADDITIONAL LOCATION HERE AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE ON THE ELECTION DAY. SO HOW DID I DO? DID I YES, THAT'S CORRECT. WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 14 LOCATIONS. SO THAT'S, UM, HALF OF ALL OF OUR ELECTION PRECINCTS. AND WE WERE HOPING THE SHORES WOULD BE DONE WITH CONSTRUCTION BY NOW, BUT AS CONSTRUCTION GOES, IT WAS DELAYED. YEAH. AND FOR THOSE LISTENING AT HOME, IT'S OUR INTENTIONS TO GO BACK TO THE SHORES ONCE CONSTRUCTION IS OVER. UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD VOTING LOCATION. JUDGE. ARE WE GOING TO ALSO HAVE THE VOTE VOTING LOCATION OF THE CITY CENTER? WE ARE. WE ARE. 'CAUSE THAT'S LIKE NOT EVEN A ONE BLOCK. YEP. YES IT IS. YOU ARE CORRECT. YES. WE, WE ARE. SO THERE'S NOT ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WOULD BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR PEOPLE NOT TO HAVE TO COME DOWN 2 0 5? UM, NOT ONE THAT WE CAN EASILY GET INTO. SO THE, THE, UH, ELECTION AND, AND JUST ACROSS THE STATE IS MAKING THE MOVE TO GET OUT OF SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES. OKAY. AND, AND ONCE YOU MAKE THAT MOVE, YOU'VE REMOVED A LOT OF PLACES AND, AND YOUR, YOUR, UM, OPTIONS BECOME VERY LIMITED AT THAT POINT. SO THEY'VE SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED US NOT TO GO INTO CHURCHES OR ARE WE STILL DOING CHURCH? NO, IT WASN'T A SPECIFIC DIRECTION THAT, THAT I'M AWARE OF. AND SARAH, YOU MAY, I I THINK IT WAS, I DON'T HAVE ANY, I THINK IT WAS JUST, UH, FOR, UM, SECURITY REASONS. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE, UH, HOLDING IT IN A CHURCH. IN FACT, WE DO THAT ON THE NORTH SIDE ALREADY. RIGHT NOW. LUTHERAN CHURCH IS, IS, UH MM-HMM . WE DO IT IN THE, AND WE DO IT IN PRECINCT TWO ALREADY AS WELL. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. RIDGEVIEW, WE HOLD RIDGEVIEW AND I MINES AT THE LUTHERAN CHURCH. SO YEAH. THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. JUDGE. SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE TWO LOCATIONS, EITHER THE CITY CENTER OR THIS ONE AND THIS ONE PROBABLY WOULD BE MORE PROBLEMATIC 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT, AS, WHERE IT'S NOT AS MUCH PARKING . THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH HERE. I MEAN, I GET WE'RE UP AGAINST A WALL HERE, BUT THERE'S NO PARKING HERE. YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE IMPOSSIBLE. SO LOOK, LET ME SEE IF I CAN REFOCUS. I GET IT. UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, THIS IS ABOUT MAINTAINING THE 50%, THE 14TH LOCATION. UH, IS IT IDEAL? NO. ARE WE GONNA HAVE A GREAT TURNOUT? NO. I PUT THE OVER UNDER AT FIVE. THERE'S A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WILL VOTE HERE ON ELECTION DAY, BUT IT KEEPS US IN COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH THE STATE LAW. UM, SO, UM, JUST SEEMS LIKE A WASTE OF . OH, IT IS. IT IS. IT'S, IT'S A WASTE. IT'S TAXPAYER'S MONEY. IT'S A WASTE OF RESOURCES. BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESOURCES, WE HAVE ABOUT EIGHT ELECTION DAY LOCATIONS. WE, WE SHOULD CLOSE DOWN. YEAH. UM, OKAY. SO NO, IT, IT, IT ABSOLUTELY IS. UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE UPDATED ELECTION DAY LOCATIONS. I'LL SECOND GOT MY MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACEY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. NOW ON TO AGENDA ITEM [3.H) Discuss/Act on approving a Master Services Agreement with Enhanced Voting, LLC for the Elections Administrators office for ballot tracking in the amount of $6,000, and all related issues; (Judge New - Elections Administrator)] THREE H, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ENHANCED VOTING LLC FOR THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE FOR BALLOT TRACKING IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,000. MS. SARAH, TELL US, TELL US WHAT THIS IS. UM, SO THIS IS GOING TO COME OUT OF OUR CONTRACT FUND, SO THERE'S NO BUDGETARY IMPACT, BUT WHAT THIS WILL DO IS IT'S BASICALLY A TRACKING SYSTEM FOR BOTH US AND OUR BALLOT BY MAIL VOTERS SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THEIR BALLOT IS IN THE MAIL SYSTEM INSTEAD OF [00:20:01] WHERE, RIGHT NOW, HOW WE HAVE IT, IT'S JUST WE MAILED OUT YOUR BALLOT SOMEWHERE AND, AND, AND WHEN IT COMES BACK, WE HAVE YOUR BALLOT. CORRECT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS CORRECT? EITHER WE SENT IT OR WE HAVE IT. RIGHT. AND THIS IS GONNA BE MORE LIKE YOUR ONLINE ORDER TRACKING WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE, WE CAN SAY THEY DELIVERED IT TO YOU ON THIS DAY. CORRECT. GOT IT. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. WHO IS, IS THIS COMING FROM THE US POSTAL SERVICE THEN? SO THE DATA COMES FROM THEM, BUT IT'S THE WHOLE SOFTWARE AND THE TRACKING THE PORTAL FOR THE VOTERS. THAT'S FROM OUR VENDOR. UH, WHAT OTHER COUNTIES AROUND US ARE DOING THIS? DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND? I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. UM, I, I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION THOUGH. WHAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT CAUSED THE NEED FOR US TO GO OUT AND GET THIS SERVICE? IT, SO IT'S JUST QUESTIONS THAT EV EVERY ELECTION WE GET TONS OF CALLS, WHEREAS MY BALLOT AND WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE A MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ENHANCED VOTING LLC FOR THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE FOR BALLOT TRACKING IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,000. I'LL SECOND GOT MY MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. THAT [3.I) Discuss/Act on updates of the Rockwall County Master Thoroughfare Plan, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty – County Engineer)] TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM THREE. I DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE UPDATES OF THE ROCKWELL COUNTY MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LTE AND COUNTY ENGINEER ERICA. I AGREE. GLADLY DEFER. GOOD MORNING. I FEEL LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH OF AN UPDATE THIS WEEK. THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE MODELING. UM, AND I DID MEET WITH BRIAN CROOKS LAST WEEK. ANDREZA NICHOLS IS JUST STILL ANALYZING THE DATA, UH, AND WORKING ON THE NEXT DRAFT CHAPTERS. SO, UM, I I WISH I HAD MORE OF AN UPDATE FOR Y'ALL, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. UM, AND WE DO HAVE OUR NEXT PROJECT, STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY MORNING. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TOGETHER WITH PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE AND DISCUSSING THEIR COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT CHAPTERS. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH THAT STEERING COMMITTEE FROM FREEZER NICHOLS? I MEAN, IT'S, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A LOT. WE'VE GOT OTHER ITEMS TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT. I'M NOT, YES, MA'AM, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THIS IS A LITTLE, IN MY OPINION, I'M, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT WE HAVE, NOT THAT IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG AND IT'S NOT, IT NOTHING AGAINST YOU. I'M TALKING IN REGARDS TO OUR, OUR CONTRACTOR. YES, MA'AM. PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN FROM THE OTHER THINGS THEY'VE DONE WITH THIS, BUT ANYWAY. WELL, I KNOW, I KNOW BRIAN CROOKS IS PLANNING ON ATTENDING THE MEETING AND HE SAID THAT HE SAID THAT HE WOULD TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING, UH, READY FOR THE MEETING NEXT TUESDAYS. SO DO THEY HAVE ALL THE DATA THEY NEED? IF THEY GOT ALL THE DATA AND THEY'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING A RESULT FROM THEM. THERE'S STILL ONE MORE RUN THAT THEY HAVE TO, WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? FROM NCT COG. OKAY. IS THIS DATA THEY SHOULD HAVE READILY AVAILABLE THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE F AND N PRETTY QUICKLY? UM, WELL, SO THEY WANT SOME INPUT FROM US, UH, IN ORDER TO REQUEST THAT LAST RUN. OKAY. WE HAVE THREE RUNS THAT WERE INCLUDED WITH OUR CONTRACT. YEAH. AND THE THIRD ONE, THEY, THEY WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE INPUT FROM US. SO I THINK THAT ENGAGING THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE WOULD PROBABLY BE A, THAT'S THE NEXT GOAL FOR THEM. YEAH. THAT, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE FOR, FOR US TO GET THAT INPUT AND THEN GIVE TO THEM TO GET THAT LAST MODEL RUN DONE. DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE WITH THIS PROJECT? NO. UM, I, I KNOW THAT BRIAN IS WORKING ON ADJUSTING THOSE DATES, UM, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATED SCHEDULE FROM THEM. WHAT CAUSED THE DELAY IN YOUR OPINION? IS IT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE WAITING ON DATA? OR IS IT BECAUSE OF THE TURNAROUND FROM F AND N? UM, I KNOW THAT'S NOT A FAIR QUESTION 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WORK FOR THEM, BUT I JUST NO, I THINK TO GATHER INFORMATION FROM, FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM THOUGH, I THINK THE, THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PART OF IT, THEY FEEL TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED AND MAYBE, UH, MAKING SOME OF THE, WELL, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT . OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR ERICA? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR STAYING ON TOP OF THIS. UH, THAT TAKES US TO [3.J) Discuss/Act on advertising by Public Notice for Bids on Road Construction Materials for the Road & Bridge Department pursuant to Local Government Code Section 262.023; (Judge New - County Engineer)] AGENDA ITEM THREE J. DISCUSS AN ACT ON ADVERTISING BY PUBLIC NOTICE FOR BIDS ON ROAD CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT PURSUANT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODES. SECTION 2 6 2 0.023. MS. ERICA, CAN I JUST SUMMARIZE THIS AND SAY WE HAVE TO DO THIS TO BE COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW? WE HAVE TO ASK ABSOLUTELY. I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS. [00:25:01] I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF YOU'D LIKE, JUDGE. ALRIGHT, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. THAT WE, UM, I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW. I MEAN, UH, THE, THE MOTION WOULD BE TO ADVERTISE PUBLIC, ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC NOTICE FOR BIDS ON THE ROAD, CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT PURSUANT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2 6 2 0.023. HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MACKETT. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STACY, YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TWO AGENDA [3.K) Discuss/Act on reviewing the bids received and selecting a contractor to complete road improvements to a designated portion of Kuban Road, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty)] ITEM THREE K, DISCUSS AND ACT ON REVIEWING THE BIDS RECEIVED AND SELECTING A CONTRACTOR TO COMPLETE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO A DESIGNATED PORTION OF CUBAN ROAD AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LTE, UM, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU THINK IT IS. WE GOT EIGHT BIDS IN AND WE'VE REVIEWED THEM AND I THINK WE'RE READY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, AREN'T WE? YES, SIR. I'D LOVE TO HEAR THAT RECOMMENDATION. UH, YES. AFTER REVIEWING THE BIDS, WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CONTRACT BE AWARDED TO ESTRADA CONCRETE COMPANY, LLC. UH, THEY HAD A BID AMOUNT OF $292,767 AND 20 CENTS. AND, UH, AN ESTIMATED, UH, TIMEFRAME OF 40 WORKING DAYS, UM, WHICH THEY WERE THE, THE LOW BIDDER. SO, UM, AND MOST QUALIFIED, YEAH, THEY WERE THE, THE LOW BIDDER, UM, BY A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, UM, 10% MAYBE, UH, OF THE NEXT CLOSEST BID. AND WE'VE HAD BIDS THAT WERE AS MUCH AS TWO MORE THAN TWO TIMES WHAT THEIR BID WAS. SO IT WAS A VERY WIDE RANGE OF BIDS, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT THAT SHERRY PUT IN AND LISA AND HER TEAM AND, AND, UM, ERICA, IT WAS A LOT TO REVIEW AND, UH, BUT WE THINK THIS IS THE BEST CHOICE, RIGHT? AND ARE WE COMFORTABLE RAA CAN COMPLETE THE WORK AND THE TIMEFRAME THAT THEY BID. THEY, THEY DEFINITELY HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS AND, AND THE HISTORY OF, OF DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK AND DOING A GOOD JOB. OKAY. IS THIS A NEW VENDOR TO ROCKWALL COUNTY? I, YES, BELIEVE SO. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CURRENT GOING WITH THEM, UM, THAT'S FOR SURE. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY ARE NEW BIDDER. UM, AND IT WAS REALLY AN INTERESTING PROCESS BECAUSE WE HAD A VERY WIDE RANGE OF BIDS. THERE WAS ONE GROUP, OR A COUPLE GROUPS THAT WERE IN THE 30 PLUS DAY RANGE, BUT THIS IS 40, SO IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE PRICE WE GOT. AND, UH, ERICA JUST NEEDS TO WORK WITH THEM TO, TO, THEY STILL NEED TO SUBMIT THEIR, UM, BOND, WHICH THEY'VE PROMISED IN THEIR REPORT THEY WOULD DO. AND THEY'VE PROVIDED WHAT REQUIRED BY THE, BY THE RFPQ. SO IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE BEST CHOICE. ALRIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT ESTRADA CONSTRUCTION TO COMPLETE THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON CUBAN ROAD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS OF THEIR BID. SORRY. THANK YOU. HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICK DA SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU, ERICA. THAT TAKES US [3.L) Discuss/Act on approval of a Commissioner to serve as Contracting Officer for the repair work for Cedar Creek Dam No.9, and all related matters; (Commissioner Liechty)] TO AGENDA ITEM THREE L DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVAL OF A COMMISSIONER TO SERVE AS CONTRACTING OFFICER FOR THE REPAIR WORK FOR CEDAR CREEK DAM. NUMBER NINE AND ALL RELATED MATTERS, COMMISSIONER LTI. UM, THANKS A LOT, JUDGE. AND I WILL, UH, LET YOU KNOW THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO WHAT WE DID PREVIOUSLY WHERE WE APPROVED SCHNABEL ENGINEERING TO DO THE ENGINEERING WORK. UM, IN THE PAST WE HAVE HOURS APPOINTED A CONTRACTING OFFICER AND WE'RE ABOUT AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE READY TO START SENDING OUT BIDS IN WHICH WE'LL NEED SOMEONE TO REVIEW IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CONTRACTING OFFICER APPOINT, UH, APPOINTED, UM, THIS IS IN PRECINCT THREE. I, I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO SERVE IF YOU GUYS WANT ME TO. SO I, I I WAS ONLY GONNA A QUESTION AND A COMMENT NUMBER ONE, ARE YOU, ARE YOU WILLING, DO YOU HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO IT? AND, AND THE COMMENT IS, I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE A NO-BRAINER. WHOEVER'S PRECINCT IT'S IN IS, IS GONNA BE THE CONTRACTING OFFICER. I, I HAD, I JUST HAD ONE. DO DO WE NEED TO, LISA, HAVE WE IN THE PAST GIVEN CONTRACT AUTHORITY TO MAKE CHANGES? OR WOULD WOULD WE DO THAT, THAT WHEN WE GET THE CONTRACT, I THINK ON THE, THE, THE, THE C THE DAMS, THE, THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BECAUSE WE'RE BEING REIMBURSED FOR THEM. I, I BELIEVE IT'S JUST THE WORDING CONTRACTING OFFICER. I DON'T, OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF IT, IT GOES INTO FURTHER WHAT, I JUST DUNNO [00:30:01] HOW MUCH THEY ACTUALLY DO. I'VE NEVER WORKED ON ONE, BUT YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA LET YOU KNOW, LAWRENCE, SINCE WE'RE GONNA, SINCE WE'RE YOU FOR THE ADVICE NO, IM NOT OPPORTUNITY HEREM. I, IF, IF IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE YOU NEED SOME OF THAT AUTHORITY, IF IT, IF IT MAKES IT GO SIMPLER THAN, THAN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT IF, IF THIS IS WHAT, IF THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, WE'LL START HERE. OKAY. WELL, I, I KNOW ON TWO DIFFERENT DAM REPAIRS, UH, I'VE, I'VE DONE THIS, UM, AND THE WORK IT ENTAILS IS GENERALLY REVIEWING ALL THEIR BIDS GOING OUT. WE, WE ALL ATTEND THE, UH, BID OPENING HERE AND LOOK AT THE RFQ AND THEN WE'LL GO OUT AND DO A SITE VISIT AT THE BEGINNING. UM, THEN THEY'LL, WE'LL GET THEIR BIDS ON A MONTHLY BASIS TYPICALLY, AND I'LL REVIEW THOSE AND WE HAVE SCHNABEL ENGINEERING THAT WILL REVIEW THEM ALSO, AND WE'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR PAYMENT. IN THE PAST, THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE INSTANCE, UM, IT WAS ON NUMBER THREE, I BELIEVE, WHERE WE HAD TO COME IN FOR, UH, ACTUALLY I BELIEVE TWO CONTRACT AMENDMENTS. AND I, I WOULD ALWAYS WANNA BRING THOSE TO THE COURT BECAUSE THEY ARE CONTRACT AMENDMENTS. UM, SO I WON'T BE OUT THERE DOING THAT. SO AS MUCH AS IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT TO DO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING FRANKLY THAT I WOULD PREFER TO BRING TO THE COURT IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT, BECAUSE TYPICALLY IT INVOLVES THINGS LIKE COST OR TIMING, UH, CHANGES. BUT YEAH, I'VE DONE THIS A COUPLE TIMES AND, UH, AM LOOKING FORWARD TO MY THIRD OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO THIS. AWESOME. AND, AND I THINK YOU'RE MISSING THE GREAT BENEFIT OF, OF BEING THE CONTRACTING OFFICER. AND THAT IS, UH, BEING PLUGGED INTO WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS AND, AND COMMUNICATING. SO IN, IN THIS CASE, TO MCCLENDON CHISHOLM AND, AND TO THE COURT, HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, HERE'S THE NEXT KEYSTONE EVENT, UH, THAT JUST KEEPS EVERYBODY'S, UH, BLOOD PRESSURE DOWN. YEAH, JUDGE, THANK YOU FOR, UM, REMINDING ME OF THAT. I'LL, I'LL GET A BLOOD BLOOD PRESSURE MACHINE AND BRING IT IN HERE IF YOU'D LIKE. BUT, UM, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS THE DAM WHERE YEAR OR SO AGO THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS GONNA, UH, HAVE LEAKAGE. UM, IT TURNED OUT IT WAS JUST NORMAL SHIFTING OF THE, UH, THE, THE DAM MATERIALS. UM, BUT STILL IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS REPAIR AND WE'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY AND SCHNABEL'S WORKING ON IT ALREADY. SO, UM, ALL RIGHT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION. PLEASE JUDGE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT COMMISSIONER LTE TO SERVE AS THE CONTRACTING OFFICER FOR THE REPAIR WORK FOR THE CEDAR CREEK DAM NUMBER NINE AND A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K. I'LL SECOND IT. YOU GOT A SECOND? IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. THIS TAKES [3.M) Discuss/Act on selecting a Contract Path for EV Charger program under Grant from NCTCOG, and all related matters; (Commissioner Liechty and Commissioner Macalik)] US TO AGENDA ITEM 3M DISCUSS AN ACT ON SELECTING A CONTRACT PATH FOR EV CHARGER PROGRAM UNDER GRANT FROM N-C-T-C-O-G AND ALL RELATED MATTERS. COMMISSIONERS, LICHTY AND M**K WILL, UM, UM, EXCUSE ME, I HAD MY MIC OFF. LET ME KINDA GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF WHERE WE'RE AT ON THIS AND, AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. AND I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH, UH, COMMISSIONER MICK'S WORK ON THIS WITH ME. UM, SHE'S BEEN GREAT HELP. UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE WERE AWARDED A, OR I DON'T KNOW IF THE AWARD IS OFFICIAL, BUT WE WERE TOLD WE WOULD GET AN AWARD FOR A FOUR PART FAST CHARGING STATION AT THE LIBRARY. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF STATIONS, A FAST CHARGE AND A NORMAL CHARGE. THIS IS THE FAST CHARGE, WHICH IS BETTER, BUT ALSO, GUESS WHAT? IT'S MORE MONEY. IT'LL COST ABOUT 365, $4,000 IS WHAT THE ESTIMATE IS. UM, THEY'RE NOW GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF HOW THIS ACTUALLY OPERATES, AND WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, UH, THREE OPTIONS. BUT I'LL PUT A CAVEAT ON, UH, OPTION NUMBER THREE AS YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY IN A MINUTE. THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS FOR HOW WE'D HANDLE THIS. ONE IS THAT WE CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH THE VENDOR OURSELVES AS A COUNTY, AND THEY EXPECT THAT WILL BE THE MOST EFFICIENT AND FASTEST WAY TO DO IT. UM, THE SECOND IS THAT ROCKWALL COUNTY WOULD CONTRACT WITH NET COG AND THEN THEY WOULD CONTRACT WITH THE VENDOR. THEY ARE WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT WITHOUT SAYING SO, DON'T REALLY SEEM LIKE THEY WANNA DO IT THAT WAY. UM, AND THEY THINK IT'LL BE MORE EFFICIENT FOR US TO DO IT FIRST WAY, WHICH IS TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT WITH THE VENDOR DIRECTLY. THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS WE DON'T HAVE THE CONTRACT WITH THE VENDOR YET TO LOOK AT. AND, UH, AS YOU CAN GUESS, WHEN YOU'RE ENTERING INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE COVENANTS ARE, WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS ARE, AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND WE DON'T HAVE THE CONTRACT WITH THAT VENDOR. THE THIRD OPTION, WHICH I SAID I WOULD PUT A CAVEAT ON, OR AN [00:35:01] ASTERISK, WHICHEVER, IS THAT WE REJECT THE GRANT. UM, AND I DON'T WANNA DO THAT. I DON'T THINK AT THIS POINT ANYBODY WANTS US TO DO THIS, BUT THEY HAVE ASKED US TO GIVE THEM AN ANSWER ORIGINALLY BY YESTERDAY. AND WE TOLD THEM, WELL, WE CAN'T DO THAT. IF YOU DO THAT, THEN THE ANSWER IS OPTION C, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT. UM, WHICH YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY IN JUST A MINUTE, I THINK. BUT THEY SAID, OKAY, WELL WE'LL GIVE YOU AN EXTENSION TILL SEPTEMBER 25TH, WHICH IS FRIDAY. OKAY? SO AT LEAST WE CAN DISCUSS IT HERE TODAY. HERE'S KIND OF WHAT'S A LITTLE BIT DICEY ABOUT THIS. OKAY? THERE'S AN OBLIGATION UNDER THE CONTRACT, AND I'VE LOOKED AT THE, THE CONTRACT WITH COG, IF WE WENT THAT ROUTE THAT WE HAVE TO OPERATE FOR A MINIMUM OF, OF FIVE YEARS, OKAY? WE HAVE TO KEEP IT OPERATIONAL AND THAT'S OUR OBLIGATION. IF WE TAKE IT ON. NOW, THE MONEY IS GONNA BE FUNDED UNDER, UNDER THE COG CONTRACT, UNDER THAT MODEL. IT'LL BE FUNDED BY A GRANT THAT COG HAS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. BUT THAT GRANT ONLY LASTS FOR FIVE YEARS. AND THEY SAID THAT BY THE TIME WE GET THIS INSTALLED, THERE MIGHT BE AS MUCH AS A YEAR DELAY THAT WE WOULD THEN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FUNDING. UM, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THAT GRANT PERIOD EXTENDED TO COVER FIVE YEARS OF FULL OPERATIONS RATHER THAN JUST A FIVE YEAR TERM. AND AS YOU ALWAYS KNOW, WHEN THERE'S FEDERAL MONEY COMING IN, YOU DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET THAT EXTENSION OR NOT. SO WE'VE ASKED 'EM WHAT THE COST WOULD BE IF WE END UP DOING IT OURSELVES. AND THEY SAID ABOUT $20,000 A YEAR IS WHAT THEY ESTIMATE TO RUN THE STATION. WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THAT BACK FROM A, UH, CONTRACT WE ENTER INTO WITH THE, THE ELECTRICITY PROVIDER. UM, BUT THAT'S UNCERTAIN YET AT THIS POINT. AND THEY SAID OF THAT WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE, ALTHOUGH IT WASN'T REAL CLEAR TO DANA AND I HOW THIS WORKED, WE WOULD ONLY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 20% OF THAT $20,000 IF THAT'S IN FACT WHAT IT TURNS OUT TO BE, WHICH WOULD BE $4,000. AND MY GUESS IS THAT THIS COURT NOT PUTTING, UH, TRYING TO ASSUME ANYONE'S VOTE, BUT MY GUESS IS IF WE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY AND WE FELT WE WANTED TO PROCEED, WE WOULD ALL THINK WE'LL RISK $4,000. BUT AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVEN'T SEEN PAPERS AND DOCUMENTS ENOUGH TO ASSURE US THAT THAT'S ALL IT'S GOING TO BE. SO, UM, WITH THAT KIND OF COMPLICATED AND FRANKLY UNSATISFYING EXPLANATION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, UM, WE'VE ASKED THEM FOR MORE INFORMATION, WE DON'T HAVE IT. THEY'VE INFORMALLY TOLD DANA THAT WE CAN PROBABLY GET MORE TIME ON PICKING OUR OPTION IF WE NEED TO, UM, BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT THE COUNTY IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE END UP WITH A LARGE OBLIGATION FOR RUNNING ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS. THIS DEAL WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ALONG, NO COST TO THE COUNTY, AND THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE PRESENTED TO YOU. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED TO US. SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, UM, IF YOU GUYS FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT, AND IF YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT HURTING MY FEELINGS, BUT IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ACTION FOR YOU TO APPROVE DANA AND I MAKING A DECISION WHETHER TO GO WITH OPTION A, B, OR C WHEN WE'RE FINALLY AT THE POINT WHERE THEY SAY, YOU CAN'T GIVE US ANY MORE EXTENSIONS, IF WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE COURT. I ASSURE YOU, AND I GIVE YOU MY WORD, WE WILL TRY TO DO THAT. BUT IF WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION, UM, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO AUTHORIZE DANA AND I MAKE THAT DECISION. BUT I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OR DANA, WHY DON'T YOU ADD ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD? I I REALLY, I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS ROCKWALL COUNTY IS NOT THE ONLY, UM, GROUP, WHETHER IT'S A CITY OR A COUNTY, THAT THAT IS ALSO HAVING THESE SIMILAR KIND OF DISCUSSIONS IS WHAT WE'VE JUST, WHAT, WHAT LAUREN HAS JUST, UM, COMMISSIONER LUTY HAS JUST SHARED WITH YOU GUYS. SO THEY, NET COG IS VERY AWARE THAT THERE IS A NUMBER OF ISSUES TO MAKING A DECIS A DECISION, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL HONOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF IT IF, IF, IF ONCE THE INFORMATION COMES AND WE JUST FEEL IT'S TOO RISKY OR SOMETHING WE DON'T WANNA ENTER INTO. BUT I, I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH 'EM RIGHT NOW. SO YEAH, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE PHONE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM WHERE WE'VE TRIED TO GATHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. UH, THE LAST ONE ENDED UP, UH, AFTER OUR CALL AND REQUESTING INFORMATION, UH, AN EMAIL FROM NET COG TO I THINK EVERYBODY INVOLVED SAYING, HEY, WE NEED TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION BASED UPON ALL THIS. SO, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO BE VERY HELPFUL. THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY GOOD TO WORK WITH. UH, BUT AS OF YET, WE STILL HAVE A SEPTEMBER 25TH DAD [00:40:01] DEADLINE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE TOLD US THAT THEY'LL PROBABLY GIVE US MORE TIME. SO, SO I HAD A QUESTION. SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT FIVE YEARS. I'M ASSUMING THAT WE DON'T WANT THIS THING TO GO FIVE YEARS AND BE REMOVED, SO WELL, WE WILL HAVE BETTER DATA AT THAT TIME. I MEAN, THIS IS KIND OF AN INTERESTING DEAL. 'CAUSE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY CHOSE THE LIBRARY SITE IS 'CAUSE IT'S RIGHT OFF I 30. OKAY. AND, UM, THEY THINK THERE'LL BE A LOT OF PASS THROUGH USERS THAT WILL USE IT. 'CAUSE THESE THINGS GO ON NETWORKS MM-HMM . AND YOU CAN FIND OUT WHERE TO GET, GET A CHARGE. UM, SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT WE GET AS FAR AS USE RESULTS. UM, AND IF FIVE YEARS OUT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, WE SAW THAT IT WAS USED VERY LITTLE BY ROCKWALL COUNTY PEOPLE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE, UH, MONEY FROM THE VENDOR, THE ELECTRICITY VENDOR TO COVER THE COSTS, WE MAY MAKE A DECISION NOT TO, BUT AT THIS POINT WE JUST DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, DON'T HAVE THAT DATA. BUT OVER FIVE YEARS WE WOULD BE, I THINK, BE ABLE TO GATHER THE DATA THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT DECISION. RIGHT NOW, I I I HATE TO JUST PROCEED AND SAY, HEY, YEAH, WE'LL TAKE OPTION A OR B BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. AND EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY, WELL, IT'S PROBABLY JUST $4,000, YOU KNOW, ME, I LIKE TO SEE THINGS IN WRITING. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. YEP. AND I'LL ANSWER OTHER QUESTIONS. WHO OR DANIEL WILL? I I JUST THINK THAT I'M KIND OF AT THE POINT WHERE I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT WORTH IT. JUST ME. I, I, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW. I I I, I WOULD BE IN MORE IN FAVOR OF JUST REJECTING THE GRANT AND SAYING IT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE YOU SAID THAT THE, THE COURT MIGHT WILL ITS WAY THE OTHER WAY. I, I JUST, AND IT, AND IT'S, AND IT ISN'T TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS. IT'S MORE THE PROGRAM ITSELF. IT'S NOT THE WORK YOU'VE PUT INTO IT, IT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT ROCKWALL WANTS US SPENDING FIVE, FOUR OR FIVE SIX, $8,000 TO KEEP AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGER OPERATIONAL AT THE LIBRARY. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF BUBBLING UP TO THE POINT WHERE WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. AND I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, I'M NOT, I I'M JUST KIND OF, IT WOULD BE EASIER TO SAY NO AND GET ON DOWN THE ROAD. I, I GET IT. IT IS EASIER TO SAY NO IN THIS CASE. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF IT CAN PROVIDE A BENEFIT TO OUR CITIZENS, UM, TO ME, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE IT A LITTLE FURTHER BEFORE WE TURN DOWN A $364,000 GRANT, BECAUSE THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT THEY PROJECT. THE COST TO INSTALL IT IS. AND THAT FOR SURE WILL BE COVERED. THE ISSUE IS, CAN WE GET COVERAGE FOR ALL FIVE YEARS, WHICH THEY'VE TOLD US THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. SO, SO I SUSPECT COG IS IN THE SAME POSITION WE ARE. UM, IS IS, I SUSPECT THIS IS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GRANT AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TELLING COG, HEY, WE NEED TO KNOW YOUR ANSWER. HOW MANY OF THESE ARE YOU DOING? WHAT'S THE AMOUNT? WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE TOTAL? AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUSHING SO THEY CAN GET THEIR DATA BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY, THEY HAVEN'T TOLD US THAT, BUT THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. I MEAN, WE ARE COMING AT THE END OF EVERYBODY'S FISCAL YEAR, RIGHT. INCLUDING THE GOVERNMENT, UM, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. UH, BUT THIS IS ALSO A GRANT THAT, AND A PROGRAM THAT'S IN PLACE. UM, AND WELL, LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY. I, THEY'VE TOLD US THEY THINK THEY CAN GIVE US MORE TIME, AND THEY'VE SAID THAT THEY DON'T WANNA BIND US TO SOMETHING IF WE FIND OUT FACTS AND WE WANNA SAY NO. SO I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S, I I THINK I HAD A BETTER EXPLAN I RISK LEVEL. THE RISK LEVEL IS FAIRLY LOW, I THINK, ON THIS RIGHT NOW. BUT MY CON MY, I GUESS WHERE I WAS SO PASSIONATE ABOUT IT INITIALLY IS, IS BECAUSE I DO THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES JUST WITH CITIZENS IN, IN ROCKWELL COUNTY. NOW, I, THE, THE, THE ADDED ADDITION TO THIS IS, AS COMMISSIONER LTY SAID, PEOPLE FROM, THEY SELECTED IT BECAUSE IT'S EASY ON AND EASY OFF, HOPEFULLY WHEN I 30 FINISHED, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO COME JUMP IN. BUT I THINK SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND PEOPLE AND, AND INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, UM, UM, VISITING THE LIBRARY MAY SAY, HEY, I'M GONNA GO JUICE MY CAR UP FOR A LITTLE WHILE. SO I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, I THINK IT'S GREAT IF WE CAN GET IT TO WORK OUT. IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY IN A GRANT THAT'S, UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF, AND I DON'T, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH LETTING YOU AND, AND DANA SORT THIS THING OUT. I I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A DECISION THAT'S GONNA BIND US TO SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT. SO I'M GOOD WITH IT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONFIDENCE THAT YOU'VE PLACED IN US. I, I, I MEAN THAT SINCERELY. AND, AND I CAN, I HOPE THAT OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF ON THE COURT, I'VE SHOWN THAT I DON'T LIKE TO SPEND MONEY UNNECESSARILY OR EVEN SOMETIMES NECESSARILY . WELL, THAT'S A, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DEFINE NECESSARY, I GUESS, RIGHT. JUDGE, THAT THAT IS CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY IS SO INCLINED. OKAY. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, THE COURT AUTHORIZES [00:45:01] AND DANA, UH, COMMISSIONER M**K AND MYSELF, COMMISSIONER LICHTY, TO MAKE A DECI DECISION ON SELECTING ONE OF THREE OPTIONS, UH, EITHER CONTRACTING DIRECTLY WITH A VENDOR OR CONTRACTING WITH NET COG OR REJECTING THE GRANT ENTIRELY. UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, EV CHARGING GRANT FROM NET COG GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TY. AND BEFORE ANYBODY SECONDS, UH, TO THE EXTENT THAT, UH, YOU DO MAKE DECISION NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER TWO, THAT DOES NEED TO COME BACK BEFORE THE COURT FOR ADDITIONAL RATIFICATION OR APPROVAL, THAT THAT'S GREAT. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. UM, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE SOME LEGAL ADVICE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE? THAT PASSES FOUR TO ONE. THAT TAKES US [3.N) Discuss/Act on a Resolution regarding recommendations for municipal uses of revenue received from the child safety fee collected pursuant to Section 502.403 pf the Texas Transportation Code, and all related matters; (Commissioner Liechty)] TO AGENDA ITEM THREE IN DISCUSS AND ACT ON A RESOLUTION REGARDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MUNICIPAL USES OF REVENUE RECEIVED FROM THE CHILD SAFETY FEE COLLECTED PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 0 2 0.403 PF OF THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE IN ALL RELATED MATTERS. COMMISSIONER LICHTY? UH, THANK YOU, JUDGE. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED DURING OUR BUDGET MEETINGS AND THE INFORMAL CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, IF I READ IT CORRECTLY, AND IF I DON'T, I'M SURE SOMEONE WILL CORRECT ME, WAS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT THE COUNTY TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF SPENDING, UM, MONEY OTHER THAN THE CHILD SAFETY FEE. IN ORDER TO, UM, UH, TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO THESE GRANTS, UM, THESE GRANTS OR THIS CHILD SAFETY FEE HAS TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE MUNICIPALITIES. I HOPE EVERYONE RECEIVED A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS SENT AROUND AND A BREAKOUT OF WHERE THE MONEY FROM THE COUNTY HAS GONE. UM, UH, IN THE PAST. I ASK THAT TO BE CIRCULATED TO EVERYONE, BUT THIS IS A NON-BINDING RESOLUTION, WHICH JUST RECOMMENDS TO THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT GET OUR MONEY THAT THEY CONSIDER, UM, THE ENTITIES MENTIONED IN THERE. AND, UM, THE RESOLUTION WAS CLEANED UP VERY NICELY BY OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, DANIEL RAY. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE GOT THE ONE, THERE NEED TO BE TWO GROUPS ADDED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AND THOSE WEREN'T IN THERE. AND I'LL TAKE THE BLAME FOR THAT, FOR NOT GETTING THOSE TO HIM QUICKLY ENOUGH. UM, BUT I'VE SENT THEM TO HIM. AND SO WE WOULD ALSO ADD IN ADDITION TO, UH, CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER, UM, AND, UH, LONE STAR CASA, WE WOULD ALSO ADD THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND THE RAINBOW ROOM, WHICH IT OPERATES UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME. UM, I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A, IT OPERATES, I'M SORRY, IT OPERATES UNDER THE RAINBOW ROOM, BUT ITS LEGAL NAME IS DIFFERENT. BUT WE WOULD ADD THOSE TO THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEING SENT OUT TO RECOM MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO, UM, ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES. WE GIVE MONEY TO THE CHILD SAFETY FEE. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ARE, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A RESOLUTION THAT INC THAT FOR US TO APPROVE AND INCLUDE THOSE? YES. I, OKAY. I WOULD SAY WE, IF, IF, IF WE, UH, IF WE GO, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I WOULD MAKE A RELU A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEEN PREPARED WITH THE ADDITION OF, UM, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND, UM, THE RAINBOW ROOM. DID I, I, IF, IF, IF THAT'S YOUR MOTION, I WOULD SECOND IT. OKAY. WELL, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE IF THAT JENNIFER ATTACHED. I, I'M, I'M GONNA MAKE A, UH, I'M GONNA REQUIRE A, A WHOLE DIFFERENT MOTION THERE, , JUST, JUST TO KEEP OUR COUNTY CLERK FROM, UH, . SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY IS SO INCLINED. UM, I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, UH, CIRCULATED AND PREPARED BY OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, UH, MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT THEY CONSIDER THE ENTITIES NAMED IN THAT RESOLUTION AS RES RECIPIENTS OF THE CHILD'S SAFETY FEE. BUT THAT WE ADD THE TWO ENTITIES, UH, THE BOYS AND GIRL CLUB, AND THE RAINBOW ROOM WITH ITS PROPER LEGAL NAME. AND I WILL SECOND THAT. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LAKE DI, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. STACY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR, FOR DOING THIS. UM, [3.O) Discuss/Act on enrolling in the Scofflaw program, Transportation Code 502.010 and instructing the County Tax Assessor to collect a $20 Fee in accordance with the law to release individuals once they have satisfied their obligations to the county, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)] ALL RIGHT, THAT TAKES US TO, EXCUSE ME. AGENDA ITEM THREE OH, DISCUSS AN ACT ON A ROLL, ENROLLING IN THE SCOFF LAW PROGRAM TRANSPORTATION CODE 5 0 2 0.010, AND INSTRUCTING [00:50:01] THE COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR TO COLLECT A $20 FEE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW TO RELEASE INDIVIDUALS ONCE THEY HAVE SATISFIED THEIR OBLIGATION TO THE COUNTY AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER GUANA, IT'S A VERY LONG-WINDED AGENDA ITEM. YES, SIR. BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE, UH, HAD A CHANCE TO READ OVER THE SCOFF LAW PROGRAM. ESSENTIALLY. UM, JUST IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT IT DOES IS THAT IF SOMEBODY, UM, HAS A FINE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, ANY OFFENSE, UM, AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SENT ALL THE NOTICES REQUIRED, WE'VE, UH, IT'S GONE PAST A CERTAIN DATE, UM, AND WE ARE UNABLE TO COLLECT, THEN, UH, THEY WOULD BE ENROLLED INTO THIS PROGRAM. SO WHEN THEY CAME AS A ROCKWALL COUNTY RESIDENT TO RENEW THEIR, UH, REGISTRATION, IT WOULD FLAG THEM AND SAY, YOU HAVE GOT AN OUTSTANDING FINE DUE TO THE COUNTY, AND YOU CAN'T RENEW THIS REGISTRATION UNTIL YOU TAKE CARE OF THIS FINE. THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS IN WHICH THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF IT. ONE, THEY CAN JUST PAY IT. TWO, THEY CAN GO TO WHATEVER COURT THEY HAD TO FIND AT AND ASK FOR A HEARING IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO PAY, WHICH THEY CAN STILL BE, UM, FOUND TO BE INDIGENT IS THE PROPER TERM FOR IT. AND IF THEY'RE FOUND TO BE INDIGENT THAT, UH, THEY'LL GET A, UM, A LETTER FROM THE COURT, WHICH THEN THEY CAN DEEN ENROLL FROM THE PROGRAM, UM, AND NOT PAY THE $20 FINE IN THAT CASE. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE AND IT DOESN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR ABILITY TO GET THEIR, UM, REGISTRATION, IT DOES GIVE THEM A TIME CONSTRAINT. THEY'LL HAVE TO GO RUN AROUND AND DO SOME THINGS TO CLEAR THE FINE. BUT WE, UM, THE REASON I LOOKED INTO THIS IS I MET WITH, UH, UH, JUDGE NORTON IN PRECINCT ONE, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OUTSTANDING FINES, Y'ALL, WE HAVE A TON OF MONEY OUTSTANDING. UM, JUST IN THE, UH, JP COURTS IS OVER $3 MILLION IN OUTSTANDING COLLECTIBLE FINES. AND SO, AND WE HAVE MORE IN, UH, IN THE CLO COUNTY CLERK DIVISION TWO, WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER. SOME OF THE REPORTING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TO TRY TO GET THIS IS, UH, VERY TIME INTENSIVE TO EVEN FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS NUMBER REALLY IS IN MONEY OWED TO THE COUNTY, WE'RE SOMEWHERE AROUND $6 MILLION TOTAL THAT'S OWED TO US IN OUTSTANDING COLLECTIBLE FINES THAT WE SHOULD BE, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF PROGRAM FOR TO COLLECT. UM, RIGHT NOW WE DON'T LINEBARGER ADMINISTERS THIS PROGRAM FOR OTHER COUNTIES. SO THIS IS AN EASY MOVE FOR US. IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS, LINEBARGER WILL MANAGE THE PROGRAM. OUR DEPARTMENTS CAN SIMPLY GIVE THEM AN EXCEL OR SOME SORT OF FILE THAT THEY CAN PULL OUTTA ODYSSEY AND SEND OVER TO LINEBARGER. THEY'RE VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH HOW TO WORK THIS SIMILAR SIMILARLY TO HOW THEY WORK. UM, OUR TAX COLLECTIONS FOR US, THEY DO THIS FOR OTHER COUNTIES NOW, THEY JUST, UM, ENROLLED, UM, SEVERAL COUNTIES INTO THIS PROGRAM'S, BEEN AROUND A WHILE, BUT IT SEEMS TO HAVE SOME RENEWED INTERESTS WITH SOME PEOPLE JUMPING ON BOARD, AND PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING SIMILAR MEETINGS TO WHAT I'M HAVING WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND MONEY THAT'S, UH, ALREADY OWED TO US BEFORE WE GO AND TAX PEOPLE MORE MONEY. AND WELL, HERE'S, HERE'S ONE. SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR COMMENTS AND, UH, YOU GUYS ASK QUESTIONS AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANNA DO. UM, I'M SORRY. NO, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. UM, THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS TO US. I, I DID TALK TO JUDGE NORTON AND I WAS AMAZED HOW MUCH MONEY ISN'T COLLECTED. AND, UM, AND IT PROBABLY AS MUCH AS ANYTHING, THAT'S THE REASON I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THE WORK AND BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION. I I WAS STUNNED TO HEAR THAT WE HAVE OVER $3 MILLION IN OUR JP COURTS OF UNCOLLECTED FINES. UM, AND, UH, SO YEAH, IF THIS WILL HELP BRING IT IN. AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH, UM, THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, AND SHE'S GOT, SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, BUT I GUESS ULTIMATELY THE REAL, THE HARD WORK IS GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE BY THE JPS, UM, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOTTA UPLOAD THE INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. BUT, UM, BUT UH, I'LL JUST SAY THANKS FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN BRING THAT $3.4 MILLION NUMBER DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. YEAH, I HOPE WE CAN. SOME OF IT WILL, SOME OF IT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE HONEST, WILL BE UNCOLLECTIBLE BECAUSE SOME, SOME PEOPLE WILL, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COLLECT FROM, AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT GOES. WE WON'T HAVE AS HIGH A COLLECTION RATE AS WE DO WITH OUR TAX COLLECTIONS, SO I'M NOT EXPECTING THAT. BUT EVEN IF WE WERE TO GET 50% OF THIS MONEY, IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT. AND, UM, THIS GOES BACK TO ABOUT 24, 2024 ON THE NUMBERS WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, I DON'T THINK WE'LL GO BACK MORE THAN THAT. IT'S HARD TO SCRAPE SOME OF THIS DATA OUT, ESPECIALLY IN THE COUNTY CLERK, UM, DEPARTMENT. DEPENDING ON HOW THE JUDGEMENTS WERE FILED, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE TIME CONSUMING AT FIRST. WE WON'T GET ALL OF THE STUFF TO LINEBARGER RIGHT AWAY, IF THAT'S THE ROUTE WE DECIDE TO GO. UM, IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME, BUT, UM, BUT WE'LL GET THERE. UH, THE J [00:55:01] JPS I THINK WILL BE QUICKER. THEIR REPORTING FOR SOME, FOR SOME REASON IS A LITTLE EASIER TO GET TO, SO WE CAN AT LEAST GET THAT ROLLING PRETTY FAST. COMMISSIONER GOANA, DID LINEBERG BARGER, SINCE THEY'RE DOING THIS, THIS SERVICE WITH OTHER, OTHER COUNTIES AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, DID THEY HAVE ANY TYPE OF HISTORICAL DATA AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS THEIR COLLECTION RATE? YEAH, I TALKED TO WADE, UH, GENT, UM, ABOUT THE PROGRAM BRIEFLY, AND WE, WE DIDN'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT WE DID TALK ABOUT HOW THE COLLECTION RATE WAS NOT THE SAME AS, AS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING THAT FROM. YEAH. UM, I DIDN'T ASK HIM FOR ANY HARD FIGURES ON EXACTLY WHAT THE, UH, COLLECTION NUMBER WAS. AND THAT'S REALLY GONNA DEPEND TOO ON HOW FAR BACK WE GO TO SUBMIT. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, IF WE GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO 24, THAT STUFF WILL PROBABLY BE HARDER TO COLLECT THAN IT WILL BE FOR THE NEWER STUFF. UM, AND IT, IT ONLY WORKS FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY RESIDENTS SO KNOW THAT TOO, THAT IF SOMEBODY GOT THAT FINE AND THEY'RE FROM DALLAS COUNTY AND THEY GO TO DALLAS COUNTY TO RENEW THEIR REGISTRATION, THEY'RE LIKELY NOT TO STOP THEM FROM RENEWING. SO WE'RE ONLY GONNA COLLECT THAT MONEY WHEN THEY SHOW UP BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA ENROLL AS ROCKWALL COUNTY IN THE PROGRAM. WE'RE ONLY GONNA REALLY HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF COLLECTING THAT MONEY WHEN THEY SHOW UP, UH, TO KIM SWEET'S OFFICE AND SHE'S ABLE TO COLLECT FROM A ROCKWALL COUNTY RESIDENT BECAUSE WHEN THEY, LIKE, WHEN A DALLAS COUNTY RESIDENT, WE'RE NOT IN THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHEN A DALLAS COUNTY RESIDENT MIGHT COME IN WITH THAT, BUT WE HAVE NO MEANS TO COLLECT FOR THEM. RIGHT. BUT, AND I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD KIM, BUT I THINK THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN RE WE WE CAN WORK WITH THE OTHER COUNTIES IF WE GET INTO THIS. YEAH. WE DON'T, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT. YEAH. UM, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE NOW. AND THAT'LL, THAT'LL TAKE THEM AGREEING TO, TO COLLECT FOR US AND US AGREEING TO COLLECT FOR THEM. AND KIM PROBABLY CAN SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I DON'T, I KNOW SHE HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION WITH DALLAS COUNTY AND THEY DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THEY WERE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT FOR US. . YEAH. COME, COME, COME IN LIKE US, KIM. SWEET. BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS ANYTIME WE HAVE A SCOFF OFF, IT JUST REPORTS. SOMETIMES NTTA WILL JUST REPORT AS DALLAS COUNTY. SO WE CAN PULL UP DALLAS COUNTY AND SEE WHAT THEIRS IS. IF IT'S A-N-T-T-A, WE'LL STOP IT. IF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE, WE DON'T STOP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA STOP FOR US. OKAY. THAT'S JUST AS KIND OF A THING. AND, AND ALSO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE DON'T COLLECT YEAH. THIS FEE WE SEND THEM TO GET WE ALL, WE STOP AT SEND YOU AWAY. YEAH. I CAN'T PROCESS THIS. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO SEE JUDGE. THE ONLY PART YOU COLLECT WILL BE THE 20 BUCKS. RIGHT. YEAH. AND WE DON'T COLLECT THAT. THEY WOULD EVEN COLLECT THAT PART OF IT AND HAVE TO, BUT THAT 20 DISPERSE IT TO US. YEAH. THAT $20 WHEN IT'S COLLECTED GOES BACK TO THE TAX ASSESSOR, COLLECTORS, UH, DEPARTMENT SOLELY TO BE USED AS, YOU KNOW, TIME SPENT TRYING TO GET THIS PROGRAM TO WORK. YEAH. YEAH. I DON'T IMAGINE THAT'S GONNA END UP BEING A LOT OF MONEY. YEAH. SO YOU SAID YOU SENT THEM BACK TO THE JP COURT THAT THEY WERE IN. YOU CAME IN AND YOU OWED JUDGE NORTON'S COURT MONEY. I WOULD SEND YOU TO JUDGE NORTON. YEAH. BUT THEY'RE ALL GONNA RUN RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, THEN THEY'RE ALL GONNA RUN RIGHT ACROSS THE PARKING LOT. AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING US SOMETHING BACK TO SHOW US THAT IT'S BEEN CLEARED. BUT THE HUGE BENEFIT TO THIS IS NOT THE $20 FEE. THE HUGE BENEFIT IS COLLECTING THE PAST DUE MONEY. IT IS TO SEND THEM BACK TO THE COURT THAT, THAT LEVIED THE JUDGMENT ON THEM AND FOR THEM TO GET THAT SETTLED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. WHETHER WE COLLECT MONEY OR WE DON'T. UH, BUT WE WILL, LIKE I SAID, EVEN IF WE COLLECT 50% OF THIS OUTSTANDING MONEY, IT'S A REALLY SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF MONEY. SO THANK, THANK YOU, KIM. UM, I'M, I'M AGAINST THIS. UM, AND, AND YEAH. HAVE, HAVE SAID IN THE PAST, IT, IT FEELS LIKE THE HEAVY HAND OF GOVERNMENT. UM, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THE COURT, YOU KNOW, ISSUES, FINES, AND FEES. WELL, WE CAN CONTRACT WITH LINEBERGER JUST TO GO COLLECT THOSE. WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO GET OUTSIDE OF THAT LANE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING HERE. AND TAKING SOMEONE WHO'S ATTEMPTING TO DO SOMETHING LEGALLY, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE MADE A BAD DECISION JUDICIALLY, THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO PAY THEIR TAXES OVER HERE AND TO STOP THEM FROM DOING THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT COMPOUNDS AND AN ISSUE. 'CAUSE THERE, THERE'S GONNA BE, IF THEY CAN'T PAY A 300 OR $500 FINE IF, AND WE SEND THEM AWAY WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO PAY THEIR TAXES, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THEY'RE JUST GONNA GO AWAY AND, AND, AND BE DRIVING WITH, WITH EXPIRED REGISTRATION. AND THAT'S GONNA COMPOUND A, A, A PROBLEM THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S IN THE COUNTY'S BEST INTEREST TO COMPOUND IT. AND, AND, AND IT, AND YOU'RE RIGHT. AND IT COULD, AND I KNEW YOU WOULD FEEL THIS WAY, SO I WAS ALREADY PREPARED FOR THIS , BUT I, I'M CONSISTENT. NOTHING ELSE. YOU ARE. BUT HERE THAT IT'S AN OBLIGATION THAT THEY HAVE, UM, THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF. AND THIS IS OUR METHOD WITHIN THE LAW, UH, TO TAKE CARE OF, UM, TO GET THEM TO PAY THEIR OBLIGATION. AND IF THEY CAN DO A NUMBER OF THINGS HERE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO AND PAY A WHOLE CHUNK OF $500 RIGHT AWAY. BUT WHAT THEY CAN DO IS [01:00:01] GO GET ON A DEFERMENT PAYMENT SCHEDULE AT THE JP. AND IF THE JP ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT, THEN THEY CAN GET OUTTA THE SC LAW PROGRAM. THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY IN FULL. THEY JUST HAVE TO GO AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR OBLIGATION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. AND, UH, WE ARE, AS A COUNTY SAYING, YOU OWE US MONEY. WE ARE NOT GONNA LET YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS UNTIL YOU MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO TAKE CARE OF THIS SOMEHOW. AND IF THEY'RE IN THE SITUATION THAT YOU CLAIM THAT THEY'RE IN, JUDGE, THEN THEY CAN GO AND MAKE A CASE THAT THEY ARE INDIGENT AND DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY. AND IT IS UP TO THAT JUDGE SOLELY TO MAKE THAT RULING. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US. WE'RE NOT INVOLVED, BUT THEY CAN MAKE THAT RULING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY THIS. AND THEN THEY WILL GET RELEASED FROM THE PROGRAM AND THEY'LL GO TAKE CARE OF THEIR REGISTRATION. BUT, UM, IT IS AN AVENUE FOR US TO COLLECT THINGS THAT ARE PASSED DUE. AND, AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE NO PROGRAM. AND, UM, AT ALL ZERO, COULD WE JUST AMEND OUR CONTRACT WITH LINEBARGER AND HAVE THEM START COLLECTING. NOW I REALIZE THIS IS NOT, UH, UM, A BIG POT, GOLD AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW FOR LINEBARGER. SO THEY WOULD, IT'S NOT PROBABLY JUST SEND A LETTER. I IS WHAT THEY WOULD DO. THEY WILL. UM, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE COURT, WHAT COURT WOULD LIKE TO DO. I'LL TELL YOU, AT ONE POINT IN MY LEGAL CAREER, LONG, LONG AGO, I ACTUALLY HAD A JOB WHERE I WAS COLLECTING SMALL AMOUNTS LIKE THIS CONSUMER DEBTS. AND WHAT YOU END UP WITH IS A LOT OF FRUSTRATION AND A LOT OF JUDGMENTS THAT ARE NEVER PAID. AND, UM, YOU, WE COULD CONTRACT WITH LINEBERGER TO GET IT. BUT LET ME TELL YOU, COLLECTING A HUNDRED AND $200 FINES, UH, IS EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T PAID 'EM IF THEY DIDN'T PAY 'EM AT COURT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PRACTICAL, I DON'T THINK WE'D GET GOOD RESULTS WITH THAT. AND I THINK HERE, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, JUDGE, AND I TOTALLY GET IT, AND I'M SOMEWHAT SYMPATHETIC TO IT. UM, BUT HERE WE, WE'VE GOT A MEANS OF SAYING NOPE. AND IF THE PERSON KNOWS, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE. IF I LEAVE HERE WITHOUT A VALID REGISTRATION, I'M GONNA GET STOPPED AND I'M GONNA GET ANOTHER $200 TICKET. THEN HOPEFULLY THEY'LL FIGURE OUT TIME TO START TO STOP BEING A SCOFF LAW. I LOVE THAT WORD. UM, AND QUIT SCOFFING AT THE LAW AND START DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. SO MY, MY STANCE IS, IS WELL STATED, UH, AUDITOR. YEAH. UH, I'M, I'M SORRY, I, I WASN'T, I'M NOT PREPARED FOR THIS, I WASN'T PART OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT WE DO CONTRACT WITH LINEBARGER TO COLLECT THESE FEES. THERE'S ALREADY A CONTRACT IN PLACE FOR THEM. SO I, I'M NOT SURE IF, IF WHAT NOTHING'S BEING SENT TO THEM TO COLLECT. IF WE HAVE $6 MILLION OUTSTANDING, WHO'S KEEPING TRACK OF HOW I I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S, IF THAT, I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU RECEIVED THAT NUMBER. THAT $3 MILLION THAT, THAT SEEMS YOU SAID SINCE 2024? YEP. I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT RECEIVED IT. COMMISSIONER LTI ALSO WENT AND TALKED TO THEM. UH, BUT NO, I'M SORRY, BUT THE JPS GAVE IT TO US. OKAY. UM, THEY SAY THIS IS THEIR NUMBER. IIII WAS JUST LOOKING IN OUR AUDIT REPORT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD SHOW HERE ON WHAT YOUR OUTSTANDING RECEIVABLES ARE, HADN'T EVEN ENTERED SOME OF THESE. HOW WOULD YOU HAVE KNOWN THEY WERE IN THERE EVEN, I MEAN, SOME OF THESE HADN'T EVEN BEEN ENTERED TO COLLECT YET FROM 24. THAT'S ALSO A PROBLEM. THE JPS WILL SOLVE THAT. OKAY. BUT THEY DON'T EVEN COLLECT THAT MUCH MONEY ANNUALLY TO HAVE IN THREE YEARS TO GO, I MEAN, TO TWO YEARS TO GO TO $3 MILLION. SO LET'S THE PRECINCT THREE COLLECT THIS YEAR, THIS LAST FISCAL THREE YEARS. WELL, I DON'T HAVE MY BUDGET OPEN IN FRONT OF ME, SO I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE THE POINT WITH YOU, BUT I'M, IT'S LOT. I'M JUST, I I WE PAY MONEY MONTHLY TO LINEBARGER ON COLLECTIONS. THEY DO COLLECT A PORTION OF IT. I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT MISSTATED INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE GIVING BECAUSE THE, THE $3 MILLION AMOUNT DID NOT COME FROM THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE OR THE TREASURER'S OFFICE. SO NOT SURE WHERE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS GENERATED, BUT, WELL, UH, I, I DIDN'T GO DO THE BACKUP, UH, LISA, BUT, UH, UM, JUDGE NORTON TOLD ME WHEN I CHECKED WITH HIM, 'CAUSE HE'S THE GUY WHOSE NAME IS ON THIS, HE TOLD ME THAT IT'S $3.4 MILLION. I DIDN'T HAVE THE SINCE 2024 NUMBER. SO I CAN'T VERIFY THAT. BUT HE SAID THAT'S, THAT'S THE NUMBER HE GAVE ME. AND I'M, YOU KNOW, HE'S PRETTY GOOD WITH NUMBERS, I THINK. WELL, WE'LL SEE. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, IT, IT IS A LITTLE CONCERNING THAT THEY'RE NOT PUTTING THEM IN THE SYSTEM. UM, WELL, WE JUST GAVE THEM ALL, UM, THEY'RE BEHIND ADMINISTRATIVELY. UM, THEY HAVE, THAT'S THE REASON THEY CAME AND ASKED US FOR, UM, ANOTHER [01:05:01] CLERK, WHICH WE GAVE THEM. SO NOW, UM, AND, AND TO JUDGE NORTON'S CREDIT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE TOLD ME WAS HE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY WERE BEHIND ENTERING THESE, AND HE TOOK THEM ALL AND SPENT A, A COUPLE OF DAYS ENTERING ALL OF IT HIMSELF. UM, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. BUT WE, WE WE'RE BEHIND A LITTLE BIT IN SOME OF THESE OFFICES, UM, ADMINISTRATIVELY THAT'S WHY THEIR CASELOADS ARE GOING UP TOO. 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THINGS IN FRONT OF THE JUDGES. UM, BUT THAT WILL CHANGE. UM, I THINK I'M CONFIDENT IT WILL CHANGE. I MEAN, YEAH. SHOULD LISA, CAN, CAN YOU OR I, COMMISSIONER, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET SOME DATA FROM LINEBARGER IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE ALREADY COLLECTING, BUT IF THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED, THEY PROBABLY AREN'T COLLECTING. ABSOLUTELY. LET, LET'S, BEFORE, I MEAN, I, I'M NOT GONNA GET INVOLVED IN WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, BUT I MEAN, LET'S, LET'S NOT BANDY ABOUT NUMBERS YET UNTIL WE CAN CONFIRM. WELL, NOBODY'S FANING ABOUT NUMBERS FOR ONE THING. I'M GONNA TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. I JUST RESTATED THE NUMBER I WAS GIVEN FROM JUDGE NORTON. OKAY, WELL, JUDGE, NOR SO WE CAN, WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT IT, BUT LET'S JUST FIND THE NUMBER AND WE'LL COME BACK AND PUT IT ON THE NEXT COURT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO REALLY WITH THIS PROGRAM. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING TO. SO THE PROGRAM IS INDEPENDENT OF THE NUMBER. EITHER WE, WE ARE OKAY USING THIS COLLECTION METHOD OR WE'RE NOT. EXACTLY. AND, AND IF WE COLLECT $10, A HUNDRED DOLLARS, IT, THAT, THAT DOESN'T, DOESN'T MATTER AS MUCH AS THIS CREATES A MECHANISM TO HELP US COLLECT FINES DUE TO US, THE JUDGE HAS SAID HE DOESN'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD SYSTEM OR A GOOD WAY TO DO IT. WE DO KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH LINEBARGER WHO ARE ALREADY CONTRACTING TO COLLECT THESE DEBTS. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF PUTTING IT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE SAYING, YOU'RE BEHIND, YOU OWE US MONEY. UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM BECAUSE I THINK SOME PEOPLE FORGET THAT THEY OWE MONEY, AND THIS IS A WAY TO REMIND THEM THAT THERE ARE OUTSTANDING DEBTS. AND IF YOU GO THROUGH A ROCKWALL COUNTY COURT AND YOU'RE DEEMED TO OWE US MONEY LAWFULLY THROUGH A JUDGE, WE SHOULD COLLECT THAT MONEY. UM, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS. I JUST DON'T SHARE IN THOSE TYPES OF CONCERNS OF SAYING NO, GO ACROSS THE STREET AND GO TALK TO WHATEVER COURT SAYS YOU OWE HIM MONEY AND GET THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT. UM, THAT JUST DOESN'T REALLY BOTHER ME. I, I AGREE WITH YOU. AND, UM, I'D ADD TWO THINGS TO THAT. ONE IS THAT THE, UM, PERSON WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE OF DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC, UH, OUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR HAS TOLD ME THAT SHE'S INDIFFERENT. SHE'S MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THIS. UM, AND THE, UH, JUDGES JUSTICES OF THE PEACE ARE THE ONES ASKING FOR IT. SO I'M, ALL THAT STUFF SAYS I, I'M OKAY MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, ONE LAST THING, GENTLEMEN. AND AND COMMISSIONERS, I'M SORRY. UH, TOTAL FEES AND FINES BUDGETED FOR FY 27 COLLECTIONS FOR JPS IS $425,000. OKAY. FOR ALL FOUR. FOR ALL FOUR, GOT IT. FOR ONE YEAR. I, IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THAT THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT THEY, UNTIL, UNTIL JUDGE NORTON JUST DID THE, THE PROCESS AT, AT GALA, UM, UM, COMMISSIONER GALANA SAID THEY MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN IS WHAT IT, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER LOOKED LIKE. THE ONES YOU YOU'RE SEEING IS WHAT THEY ARE PUTTING INTO THE SYSTEM. YEAH. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING. AND, AND THEN THEM ADDITIONALLY ENTERING MORE DOLLARS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET ACROSS HERE, IS THAT IF THOSE NUMBERS WEREN'T ENTERED BECAUSE THEY WERE REALLY BEHIND ON THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE WORK, THEN YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THEM. YOU JUST WOULDN'T KNOW 'EM. UH, AND SURE. SO YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THIS NUMBER IS. I MEAN, NO, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBER IS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE BEHIND. THEY'RE SAYING ONE NUMBER AND YOU'RE SAYING ANOTHER. WE'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT ONCE THEY ALL GET CAUGHT UP. I'M JUST SAYING WHAT YOUR BUDGET, WHAT FY 27 BUDGETED FOR COUNTY REVENUE FROM THE JP OFFICES FOR FEES AND FINES IS 425,000. UM, UM, I, I GET IT. AND COMMISSIONER GUANA, I, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT SURE OF THE NUMBERS, BUT COULD YOU PLEASE ASK THE, THE JPS TO REPORT TO US ON THIS IN THE NEXT TIME? BECAUSE AGAIN, THE, THE THING THAT I'M, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY GOING FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT THE, THE, THE ENORMITY OF THAT NUMBER THAT'S, WE, I WAS TOLD WAS PAST DUE IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD GET TO THE BOTTOM OF. AND COMMISSIONER STACY, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WHETHER IT'S 3.4 MILLION OR $300,000, IT, IT DOESN'T REALLY IMPACT MY VOTE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, BUT I, NOW THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS ISSUE AND IT'S BEEN RAISED, I WOULD LIKE IT IF YOU COULD ASK THE JUSTICES TO GIVE US A REPORT ON IT. I WILL DO THAT. ALL WITH THAT. WHAT, SORRY, GO AHEAD. DONE YET, WHAT PAST DUE NUMBER DO YOU HAVE, LISA, ON YOURS? THAT WHAT OUT OF, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHAT LINE BAR IS COLLECTING? I WAS GONNA LOOK ON THE, ON YOUR, UH, INDEPENDENT AUDIT, [01:10:01] THAT, THAT WOULD BE LISTED ON YOUR BALANCE SHEET OF WHAT'S OUTSTANDING. AND IT WOULD PROBABLY LIST ALL THE COURTS. I JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT INFORMATION YET ON MY SCREEN, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO HELP WITH THIS. I'M GONNA DEFINITELY SEND THE JPS TO YOU TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT THEIR INDIVIDUAL NUMBERS FOR SURE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, I DON'T THINK THIS HORSE IS GETTING BACK UP AS IT IS DONE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF, IF SOMEBODY IS SO INCLINED. UH, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ENROLL IN THE SCOFF LAW PROGRAM AND WORK AND CONTRACT LINEBARGER TO DO THE COLLECTIONS PORTION OF THE PROGRAM FOR ROCKWELL COUNTY. I'LL SECOND AND A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALANA. I'LL SECOND, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. STACY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES? NOW THAT PASSES FOUR TO ONE. ALL [3.P) Discuss/Act on revisions to the Rockwall County Fleet Management Program, and all related issues; (Commissioner Gallana)] RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM THREE P, DISCUSS AND ACT ON REVISIONS TO THE ROCKWALL COUNTY FLEET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER GUANA? YES. I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO HOPEFULLY LESS CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC OF FLEET MANAGEMENT. AND, UH, SO I REVIEWED SOME OF OUR FLEET POLICIES AND, UH, MADE SOME CHANGES TO OUR, UH, CURRENT AGREEMENT. I MEAN, OUR CURRENT FLEET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, UM, AGREEMENT. AND BASICALLY WHAT I'VE DONE IS WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS ON THE COURT AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET, AND WE'RE TRYING TO NARROW, UM, THE SUPERVISION OF THE FLEET DOWN TO A DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE, UM, WE HAVE NOW, WE'RE NOW GONNA HAVE A FLEET TECHNICIAN, AND I'M SURE WE WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, AS THE BUDGET PERMITS, BUILD THAT DEPARTMENT FROM THERE, UM, EVENTUALLY, DEPENDING ON HOW BIG OF A SERVICE CENTER WE WANT TO HAVE. AND SO TO DO THAT, WE HAVE GOTTA PUT SOME THINGS, UH, INTO THE FLEET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT DIRECT OUR, UH, COUNTY STAFF WITH FLEET VEHICLES, UH, ON WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY NEED A REPAIR OR WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN THEY NEED A NEW VEHICLE. AND THIS PROGRAM IN A NUTSHELL SAYS, UM, IF YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE A REPAIR, YOU'VE GOTTA GO TO YOUR SUPERVISOR FOR FLEET, DEPENDING ON WHAT DEPARTMENT YOU'RE IN FIRST. SO IF IT'S WITH THE SHERIFF, YOU'VE GOTTA GO TO CAPTAIN BROWN BEFORE YOU TAKE IT TO A SHOP. YOU CANNOT TAKE IT TO A SHOP BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU WHAT SHOP IT NEEDS TO GO TO AS WELL. WE'RE GONNA DIRECT THAT WE'RE GONNA, WE DON'T HAVE A LIST YET OF PREFERRED SHOPS, BUT THE FLEET PROGRAM POINTS TO THAT. AND WE WILL HAVE THOSE, UH, SOON. AND THEN IF YOU'RE IN THE, IN THE COUNTY SIDE, THE NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH BARRY COMPTON, UH, BEFORE YOU TAKE YOUR VEHICLE IN FOR REPAIR. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO STOP, JUST EVERYBODY OUT THERE LISTENING, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO STOP IS THAT YOU'VE GOT MONEY LEFT IN YOUR BUDGET AND YOU WANT TO GO GET TIRES AND YOU TO GO TO A SHOP, AND WHAT'S THE SHOP GONNA DO? THEY'RE GONNA PUT TIRES ON YOUR CAR BECAUSE THEY WANNA SELL TIRES. THEN WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT MONEY DOWN, UM, TO A SCIENCE SO THAT THERE IS A, THERE'S A STOP BEFORE OUR CARS GO TO A SHOP. WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF SHOPS THAT OUR VEHICLES GO TO, NOT TO CREATE, UM, MORE TIME THAT THEY'RE OUTTA SERVICE, BUT JUST TO, JUST SO WE'RE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO OR THREE SHOPS IN THE AREA THAT WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT WE CAN TRUST THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA DO THE RIGHT THING, THAT WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING, THEY'RE GONNA ALERT BARRY OR THEY'RE GONNA ALERT CAPTAIN BROWN. UM, RATHER THAN MAKING A REPAIR AND THE AUDITOR GETTING A BILL THAT SHE MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, AND THEN HAVING TO TRACE IT BACK FROM THERE. SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BUTTON IT UP. WE ALSO TALK ABOUT, UH, MODIFICATIONS TO COUNTY VEHICLES. SO IN THE PAST, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MODIFICATIONS DONE TO VEHICLES ON THEIR OWN. UM, I'M FINDING OUT, UM, OR DEPARTMENTS HAVE MODIFIED VEHICLES A CERTAIN WAY, WHETHER IT'S WITH DONATED THINGS THAT, OR SELF BOUGHT THINGS THAT THEY PUT ON THEIR VEHICLES THAT STOPS BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS COULD IMPACT WARRANTY, COULD IMPACT THE FUNCTION OF THE VEHICLE, COULD CAUSE ELECTRICAL ISSUES. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS. SO ANY MODIFICATIONS TO VEHICLES HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR SUPERVISORS AS WELL, WHICH WILL THEN HOPEFULLY LEAD TO IT COMING TO COURT SO THAT WE CAN APPROVE WHAT'S GOING ON, UM, AND, UH, KEEP OUR HEAD IN THE GAME A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND IT DIRECTS PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY'RE REQUESTING A NEW VEHICLE AS WELL, WHICH IS, AGAIN, TO GO THROUGH THEIR SUPERVISOR. IF YOU'RE GETTING THE MESSAGE HERE, EVERYTHING ROLLS THROUGH WHOEVER THE SUPERVISOR IS RIGHT NOW, THAT'S CAPTAIN BROWN AND BARRY COMPTON. AND, UM, AND THEY'LL MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. THEY'LL STILL INVOLVE THE FLEET COMMITTEE, OBVIOUSLY, WHICH IS, WE STILL HAVE A FLEET COMMITTEE AND FOR MAJOR DECISIONS, THEY WILL STILL INVOLVE THE FLEET COMMITTEE FOR NEW VEHICLE RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY'LL STILL INVOLVE THE FLEET COMMITTEE. BUT FOR THESE, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER MORE MINOR DECISIONS, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE VEHICLES REPAIRED AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA ALLOW TO BE REPAIRED, THEN UM, IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH THEM. AND THE GOAL, ONCE WE GET THE FLEET TECHNICIAN ON BOARD, IS TO KIND OF SELF-DIAGNOSE THESE PROBLEMS FIRST BEFORE WE SEND IT OUT. WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THEM ALL. WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO ALL THE REPAIRS, BUT OUR TECHNICIAN CAN CERTAINLY SELF-DIAGNOSE AND SEND TO A SHOP WITH VERY SPECIFIC DIRECTIONS ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO THESE VEHICLES. AND I THINK IT'LL SAVE US SOME [01:15:01] MONEY OVER TIME. I, I, I REALLY LIKE THIS. THANK YOU FOR, FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. IT SEEMS TO CLEAN UP AND REALLY FOCUS IN ON GETTING CONTROL OF ONE OF OUR LARGEST, UH, EXPENDITURES. YEAH. UH, AND IT'S GONNA CONSISTENTLY GET BIGGER AND BIGGER, AND IT WILL BE A LARGER SPEND EVERY YEAR. SO, UH, THERE, THERE'S NO TIME LIKE THE PRESENT, SO THANK YOU. UH, I, I DO LIKE WHERE WE'RE GOING AND DECISIONS. GETTING BACK TO THE FLEET MANAGER, UH, IS WHERE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALL ALONG. YEAH. BUT THE POLICY DIDN'T INDICATE THAT'S WHERE IT, IT DIDN'T, IT, IT, I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY, IT WAS HONESTLY, THE, THE POLICY WAS PRETTY TIGHT ALREADY. IT WAS PRETTY GOOD. IT'S JUST WE WENT A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UM, WENT TO A FLEET TECHNICIAN AND WE'VE DECIDED THAT OUTFITTING, YOU KNOW, UH, ANY KIND OF LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLE IS ALL GONNA GO THROUGH CAPTAIN BROWN OR WHOEVER MAY BE IN THAT POSITION DOWN THE ROAD. UM, IT'S ALL GONNA GO THROUGH HIM SO THAT HE, SO WE HAVE ONE PERSON IN CHARGE OF OUTFITTING VEHICLES, EVENTUALLY OUR FLEET TECHNICIAN WILL HELP WITH THAT. WE'LL HELP OUTFIT THEM SO THAT WE DON'T SEND THEM ANYWHERE. UH, BUT WE HAVE TO PUT IN HIM OR HER, WHOEVER WE HIRE THROUGH SOME TRAINING FIRST FOR THAT. UM, BUT IT'S JUST GONNA ISOLATE THE DECISIONS. AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, UM, IT JUST LEADS TO BETTER DECISION MAKING AND, AND MORE ADHERENCE TO A POLICY. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IT'S A PRETTY FULL CIRCLE MOMENT. YOUR PREDECESSOR WROTE THE FLEET POLICY. I EDITED THE FLEET POLICY, AND THEN YOU RE-EDITED THE, THE FLEET POLICY. SO COMMISSIONER WINE GETS IT BACK IN HIS COURT. , UM, UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT POLICY. UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU PUT INTO IT. AND JUDGE, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE REVISIONS OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY, UH, FLEET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AS PRESENTED. OKAY. AND I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, BUT GO, WE, I'LL SECOND MOTION, I'LL SECOND HIS MOTION. GOT A MOTION. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH, UM, MY QUESTION, UM, COMMISSIONER GOANA, YOU TALK ABOUT THE SERVICE CENTER AND THE TECHNICIAN IS, THAT'S KIND OF A PRETTY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THIS, THIS PLAN. SO YOU ARE WORK, YOU SAID YOU'RE WORKING ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? YEAH, WE'RE WORKING ON IT. WE, UM, COMMISSIONER STACY AND I WALKED, UH, WHITMORE WITH, WITH, UM, WITH BARRY, MM-HMM . UM, LAST WEEK JUST TO GET AN IDEA KIND OF, OF WHERE THE TECHNICIAN'S GONNA BE AND HOW THE WORKFLOW'S GONNA GO. BARRY'S ALREADY GOT IT REALLY DIALED IN, I THINK, AND, UH, AND, UM, IS READY TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND SO KNOWS WHAT HE NEEDS TO GET FROM A, UH, FACILITIES STANDPOINT THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED AND THE BUDGET. AND, UH, I THINK, I THINK WE'LL BE IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT A LOT OF THIS NEXT YEAR, UM, IS GONNA BE A LEARNING CURVE, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FLEET TECHNICIAN AND WE HAVE, WE GOTTA KIND OF FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE OF, OF WHAT WE CAN DO AND, AND WHAT WE CAN'T WITH, UM, WHAT THAT FLEET TECHNICIAN CAN HANDLE ALONG WITH THE PAPERWORK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HANDLE TO MAKE SURE THE AUDITOR HAS WHAT, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . HER DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO, TO GO FORWARD. AND THE SHOP, UH, VENDOR ARRANGEMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO MAKE. AND THEN, UH, WHAT WORK WE'RE REALLY GONNA DO HERE. I MEAN, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA DO OIL CHANGES BREAK, SIMPLE STUFF, BUT WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? WE DON'T, WE KNOW WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SHOOT FOR. UM, BUT WE'VE REALLY GONNA SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME DIALING IT IN OVER THIS, THIS NEXT YEAR. AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT ONCE WE DIAL IT IN A LITTLE BIT, THERE'LL BE SOME MORE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE FLEET POLICY. OKAY. AND THEN JUDGE, I, I'M GONNA MAKE ONE MORE MOTION BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I HAVE TWO MOTIONS TO MAKE UNDER THE SAME ITEM. THE NEXT ITEM MAY SURPRISE YOU. UM, SO ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE HAVE THE MOTION BY COMM COMMISSIONER, STACY, THAT NOT CONFUS ME. WE HAD THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, UH, IF YOU WILL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PUT THE FLEET TECH IN WHITMORE, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME QUESTION OF WHERE WE PUT THEM. I JUST WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO BARRY AND TO THE, TO THE FLEET COMMITTEE THAT WE ARE, THAT IS A PLACE WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO FIND A, A SPOT, AND I THINK BOBBY AND I WALKED AROUND WITH BARRY, HAVE A GOOD PLAN FOR HOW WE CAN UTILIZE THE SPACE WITHIN WHITMORE, BUT I THINK THE COURT NEEDS TO, THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT WHERE TO PUT THIS PERSON. THIS IS PART OF THE FLEET, UH, MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. OKAY. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPDATING THE FLEET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT PROGRAM TO, TO PUT THE FLEET TECH IN WHITMORE. OKAY. SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR LEGAL COUNSEL. YEAH. CAN WE DO THAT ? EXACTLY. THE ANSWER COULD BE NO. I MEAN, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS, IF, IF WE HAVE TO, FIRST OF ALL, ONE QUESTION, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT? BUT IF WE DO, UH, I, THERE'S BEEN NO NOTICE OF THIS GIVEN UNDER THIS AND, AND WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT COURT. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I, I JUST, I JUST KNOW THAT WE WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL OF THIS UP AND GOING AND WE GOTTA FIND A PLACE FOR THIS PERSON. YES, YOU DO. AND SO IT SHOULD BE ON THE NEXT COURT. FAIR ENOUGH. SO THAT MOTION FLOATS OFF TO THE ETHER ALL BY ITSELF. AND THE [01:20:01] SURPRISE I ALLUDED TO, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK. IT IS 10 20 RIGHT NOW. WHAT? JUST, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYONE. WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO OUR REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT SESSION. WE [3.Q) Discuss/Act on Overtime Compensation Policy C.6 changes and include an effective date;  (Commissioner Liechty and Commissioner Stacy)] ARE ON AGENDA ITEM THREE Q, DISCUSS AN ACT ON OVERTIME COMPENSATION POLICY, CDO SIX CHANGES, AND INCLUDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE COMMISSIONER, LTI AND STACEY. YES. SO COURT, IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS IS A, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WAS DEBATED HOTLY OVER THE LAST MONTH. THE COURT DECIDED NOT TO PUT OVERTIME COMPENSATION INTO THE BUDGET, BUT OUR CURRENT POLICY DOESN'T HAVE COMP TIME, TECHNICALLY STARTING 10 11. SO LAUREN AND I GOT TOGETHER AND WE WROTE THIS, WHICH WOULD PUT COMP TIME BACK TO WHAT WE WANTED IT TO BE BEFORE WE MOVED IT AGAIN. AND SO THAT WOULD BE THAT OUR, WE'RE TRYING ON THESE NEXT TWO ITEMS TO PUT OUR COMP BACK COMP POLICY BACK IN PLACE TO WHERE IT WAS WITH ONE CHANGE. AND THAT IS THE SHOWING UP TO WORK ISSUE THAT THAT CAME BEFORE THE COURT, WHERE PEOPLE WOULD TAKE OFF AND GET PAID OVERTIME FOR TAKING OFF. THE THO THOSE PROVISIONS ARE STILL IN THE POLICY. SO IF YOU'RE NOT AT WORK, YOU DON'T GET PAID OVERTIME. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE PUTTING THE COMP POLICY RIGHT BACK TO HOW IT WAS WITH THESE TWO POLICIES, WHICH MEANS YOU CAN USE VACATION BEFORE YOU USE COMP TIME AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO, UH, GET, UH, COMPENSATION. THE ONE EDIT IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST START BOTH OF THESE POLICIES ON 9 27 SO THAT THEY LINE UP WITH A PAY PERIOD THAT WAS A TREASURER'S REQUEST. AND I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD PLAN. UM, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. THE LEGAL TERM IS WE'RE RETURNING EVERYTHING TO THE STATUS QUO. ANTE STATUS QUO, ANTE. OKAY. WHERE IT WAS BEFORE WE MESSED WITH IT. . OKAY. BEFORE, YOU KNOW, UH, A COUPLE THINGS. UM, NUMBER ONE, I, I APPLAUD THE COURT AND, AND I'VE HAD THESE BRIEF CONVERSATIONS OF L LOOKING AT A PROBLEM, ATTEMPTING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM, AND THEN REALIZING, UH, OUR, OUR SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM HAS CAUSED ANOTHER PROBLEM. NOW, I WOULD ASK ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS, INCLUDING ELECTEDS, TO DO SOMETHING FOR ME GOING FORWARD. LOOK AT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AGENDA ITEMS, SIT DOWN, LOOK AT YOUR DEPARTMENT AND SPEND SOME TIME THINKING ABOUT HOW EACH ITEM IS GOING TO AFFECT YOUR DEPARTMENT. AND THEN COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE DIOCESE. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE EXECUTIVE BOARD, BUT ALSO THE LEGISLATIVE BOARD. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT WE FEEL IS BEST. AND THEN IN THIS CASE, WE DID, WE VISITED WITH A FEW DEPARTMENT HEADS, AND THEN WE MADE THIS DECISION, WE MADE THIS MOVE, AND THEN SEVERAL DEPARTMENT HEADS CAME BACK AND SAID, I, I CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN THIS. THIS CAUSES THIS PROBLEM FOR ME. I, I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS UPFRONT BEFORE WE HAVE TO GET INTO, UH, WHAT WAS THE LATIN LEGAL TERM AGAIN? RESTORING STATUS QUO, ANTE, RESTORING STATUS QUO, ANTE. UM, SO, UH, DON'T, DON'T BE AFRAID TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND JUST LET US KNOW, HEY, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS GOING TO COST ME MONEY. IT'S GONNA COST ME, IT'S GONNA CAUSE MY, MY STAFF TO BE DISGRUNTLED. JUST LET, LET US KNOW. SO WE, AND WE MAY STILL DO IT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO, UH, UH, GOING FORWARD. SO, UH, BUT AGAIN, I WANNA APPLAUD THE COURT. WE, WE TOOK A STEP, ENOUGH DEPARTMENT HEADS CAME FORWARD AND SAID, WE, WE CAN'T, UH, WE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS. AND THEN, SO WE, WE WE'RE BACKING UP NOW OR AT LEAST HAVE THE OPTION TO BACK UP NOW. SO THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT. RE REGARDING, UH, COMMISSIONER STACY. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT OVERTIME COMPENSATION SEVEN SIX AS PRESENTED WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2026. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. SO GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. [3.R) Discuss/Act on changes to Rockwall County Policy on Vacation (Policy B.3) and give an effective date; (Commissioner Liechty and Commissioner Stacy)] THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM THREE R, DISCUSS AND ACT ON CHANGES TO THE ROCKWALL COUNTY POLICY ON VACATION POLICY B THREE AND GIVE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. COMMISSIONERS LICH DE AND STACY. AGAIN, THIS IS A CONTINUATION. THIS IS RESTORING OUR VACATION POLICY TO WHAT IT WAS, UH, ANTI DISRUPTION. , NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. TURN, TURNING IT BACK TO STATUS QUO. SO WITH THAT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, DISCUSS AND ACCEPT THE CHANGES TO ROCKWALL COUNTY POLICY ON VACATION POLICY B THREE WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2026. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. I'LL SECOND IT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LTI. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? [01:25:01] REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT [3.S) Discuss/Act on approving employee benefits for 2027 including medical, dental, vision, voluntary, and all other related issues; (Commissioner Liechty - Commissioner Stacy - HR Director)] TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM THREE S, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FOR 2027, INCLUDING MEDICAL, DENTAL, VISION, VOLUNTARY, AND ALL OTHER RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONERS, LTI, STACY, AND HR DIRECTOR WEBB AND CAMMI WILL PRESENT. THANK YOU. GET THE MICROPHONE UP TALL ENOUGH FOR ME. HELLO, . IT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN KIM SWEET GOES FIRST. , SHE'S NOT HERE SO I CAN SAY THAT. , GOOD MORNING. I'M KAMI WEBB. I'M YOUR HR DIRECTOR AND EXECUTIVE COORDINATOR. I'D ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE, AS THE COURT KNOWS, MANDY LANDER. SHE IS YOUR HR MANAGER AND MANAGES THE BENEFITS OF THE COUNTY ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. I'M GONNA PULL UP A PRESENTATION AND IF YOU NOTICE, I PLACED A CORRECTED VERSION OF THIS HANDOUT, UM, AT EACH OF YOUR SEATS. UM, I HAD A CARRIER INCORRECT, SO I NEEDED TO CORRECT THAT. I'LL COVER THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. AND THE HANDOUT SHOULD SOMEWHAT FOLLOW ALONG WITH MY POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. UM, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLAN DESIGN CHANGES TO, UH, THE THREE PLANS THAT WE OFFER. ARE WE GOING TO, IS YOUR POWERPOINT GONNA SHOW UP? I DON'T KNOW. I HOPE SO. . THERE WE GO. OKAY. UM, LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLAN DESIGN CHANGES, SO THIS PRESENTATION WILL LOOK VERY FAMILIAR TO THE ONE THAT I GAVE LAST YEAR. UM, WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF MAJOR CHANGES, ONE OF THEM BEING THE CHANGE, UH, OF INSURANCE BROKERS FROM GALLAGHER'S CONSULTING TO HOLMES MURPHY. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE TRANSITION PHASE OF THAT. IT WILL BE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER ONE, BUT WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH HOLMES MURPHY. UM, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT CHANGE IN, UH, EMPLOYEE AND EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTIONS, UM, WHICH I'LL COVER THAT IN DEPTH TOWARDS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. UM, AS FAR AS UNITEDHEALTHCARE, WE WILL MAINTAIN AN AGREEMENT WITH UNITEDHEALTHCARE FOR MEDICAL CLAIMS ADMINISTRATION AND THE USE OF THEIR NETWORK. WE WILL MAINTAIN THE TEXAS ACES PROGRAM, WHICH IS AN INTERVENTION APPROACH FOR DISEASE AND CASE MANAGEMENT SUCH AS DIABETES, PERSONALIZED HEALTH COACHING, AND CLINICAL SUPPORT TO HELP MEMBERS MANAGE THEIR CONDITIONS EFFECTIVELY. SO IF OUR MEMBERS, THE MEMBERS ON OUR PLAN, RECEIVE A PHONE CALL FROM SOMEONE THAT STATES THAT THEY ARE A HEALTHCARE ADVOCATE CALLING FROM SECOND MD, IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME TYPE OF DIAGNOSIS THAT HAS BEEN FLAGGED IN THE UNITED HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. AND SO, UM, AN ADVOCATE WILL REACH OUT TO YOU TO ASSIST YOU THROUGH THAT, THAT PROCESS. UM, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND, AND, UH, HELP YOU IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON, UM, LIKE WHAT TYPE OF PROVIDER TO SEE, OR MEDICATION OR IT'S JUST AN ADVOCACY PROGRAM. UM, WE WILL MAINTAIN AN AGREEMENT WITH UNITEDHEALTHCARE FOR PHARMACY BENEFITS MANAGEMENT. UH, ALSO DENTAL AND VISION WILL REMAIN WITH UNITEDHEALTHCARE. AND WE WILL ALSO, WE HA WE CURRENTLY HAVE A MICROSITE THAT'S PAID USING, UM, UNITEDHEALTHCARE CREDITS. AND WE WILL, WE'RE GONNA REVAMP THAT. WE AS IN HOLMES MURPHY, , SO IT'LL BE, UM, BEEFIER. IT'LL HAVE MORE SUBSTANCE IN IT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? YEAH, THE MICROSITE, THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE THE EMPLOYEES HAVE ACCESS TO A SITE THAT LETS US KNOW WHAT BENEFITS WE HAVE. WHAT IT IS A SITE THAT IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO. IF YOU WERE TO LOG IN, IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO YOUR BENEFITS. IT IS, UM, AN OVERALL REVIEW OF WHAT THE COUNTY OFFERS IN ADDITION TO, UM, THE MEMBER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND WHAT BENEFITS IT MAY OFFER AS FAR AS COUNSELING AND, UM, ESTATE PLANNING AND THAT KIND OF THING. UM, FOR SPECIFIC, UH, COVERAGE QUESTIONS, I'VE, I'VE GOT A, UM, A CONTACT THAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IN JUST A SECOND. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. [01:30:03] THE GO TO DOCTOR CAMPAIGN, WE STARTED THIS, UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND WE WILL MAINTAIN THIS PROGRAM WHERE EMPLOYEES AND SPOUSES WHO ARE ON THE COUNTY'S MEDICAL INSURANCE, UM, REQUIRE THEM TO RECEIVE AN ANNUAL PHYSICAL EVERY YEAR BETWEEN OCTOBER ONE AND SEPTEMBER 30TH. UM, AND THIS WILL PREVENT AN ADDITIONAL $50 PER PERSON, UM, ON THEIR, UH, BIWEEKLY PREMIUMS. UM, IF LET'S SAY THE EMPLOYEE AND THEIR SPOUSE DO NOT RECEIVE THEIR ANNUAL PHYSICAL, THE CHARGE WOULD BE $100 PER PAYCHECK. AND THIS REQUIREMENT DOES NOT APPLY TO CHILDREN. SO THIS IS JUST A, A MAINTAINING THIS PROGRAM. AND I HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE TOLD ME THAT THIS HAS SAVED THEIR LIFE. I HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THE, UM, THE GO AHEAD TO USE THEIR NAMES OR ANYTHING. BUT, UM, GOING TO THE DOCTOR ANNUALLY CAN CATCH SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITIONS SUCH AS CANCER AND CATCH IT EARLY SO THAT IT, IT CAN TURN INTO A LIFE SAVING MEASURE. UM, WE INCENTIVIZE IT USING MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT YOU FEEL IN THE IMMEDIATE, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN IMMEDIATE CONSEQUENCE. UM, AND WE REALLY WANT OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE HEALTHY AND, UM, THAT'S JUST A VITAL, UH, VITAL, UH, IMPORTANCE TO OUR BENEFITS COMMITTEE. AND I'M SURE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AS WELL. TAMMY, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, STATUS AS REGARDING TO THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE GO TO DO THE DOCTOR CAMPAIGN THIS YEAR? WE HAVE ALL 300, UH, EMPLOYEES EXCEPT FOR NINE, NINE HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO DO IT, UM, FOR VARIOUS REASONS. UH, AND THAT IS EVEN AFTER KATIE ROUGH FROM OUR WELLNESS COORDINATOR. UM, THAT'S AFTER NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS REMINDERS AND BEING PLACED ON HER PESTER LIST. . UM, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT EMPLOYEES TO HAVE TO PAY THAT ADDITIONAL FEE IF THEIR INTENTION IS TO GET A PHYSICAL OR IF THEY DID GET IT AND IT'S JUST NOT SHOWING UP IN THE UNITEDHEALTHCARE SYSTEM, WE WANNA GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, I DID GO, HERE'S PROOF. AND, AND JUST AS A POINT OF EMPHASIS, YOUR PHYSICAL IS COVERED AT A HUNDRED PERCENT IF YOU'RE ON THE MEDICAL PLAN. SO THERE'S NO OUT-OF-POCKET TO GO GET THIS SERVICES DONE. THERE, THERE IS A FORM THAT YOUR DOCTOR HAS TO FILL OUT YOU. UM, WHERE DOES THE $50 OR THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS GO THAT'S TAKEN OUT OF THE PAYCHECK? IT GOES INTO FUND 180 5 AS REVENUE. GOT IT. TO OFFSET SOME OF OUR CLAIMS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. UM, WE PLAN TO MAINTAIN COBRA ADMINISTRATION WITH CPI BENEFITS ADMINISTRATION. WE'VE BEEN WITH THEM A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THAT STANDS FOR COBRA PROFESSIONALS INCORPORATED. UM, AND TO MAINTAIN OUR FLEXIBLE SPENDING ACCOUNT THROUGH CPI AS WELL. UM, THE PLAN IS TO, UH, INCREASE OUR FLEXIBLE SPENDING ACCOUNT AMOUNT TO WHATEVER THE IRS ALLOWABLE AMOUNT IS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN ACTED ON, BUT I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE AROUND $3,500, UM, AND MAINTAIN A $660 ROLLOVER. SO IF EMPLOYEES ARE LISTENING RIGHT NOW, AND YOU HAVE, YOU'VE ELECTED, UM, WHICH THIS YEAR IT'S $3,400 AND YOU HAVEN'T USED ANY OF IT, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO AT LEAST GO TO THE FSA STORE ON YOUR MY CPI APP. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, UH, HEALTH RELATED THAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER YOUR FSA, UM, BECAUSE ONLY $660 WILL ROLL OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR, UM, WE RECOMMEND MAINTAINING, UH, OUR DEPENDENT CARE FSA CONTRIBUTIONS WITH CPI AS WELL. UM, AND THEN ONE THING WE ADDED IN 2026 WAS THE HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT. AND CPI ALSO MANAGES THAT FOR US. AND I'LL REVIEW THAT IN A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL IN JUST A MOMENT. I, I DO WANNA SAY, UM, THE MY CPI APP, UM, THEY'VE UPDATED IT RECENTLY. SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET ON YOUR APP AND IT'S NOT WORKING, YOU NEED TO GO TO THE APP STORE AND UPDATE IT, UM, BECAUSE IT WON'T WORK. IT'LL, IT'LL GIVE YOU AN ERROR MESSAGE, SO YOU JUST HAVE TO UPDATE IT. OKAY. AS FAR AS FINANCIAL PROTECTIONS, UM, WE RECOMMEND MAINTAINING, UH, OUR BASIC LIFE INSURANCE AND SUPPLEMENTAL LIFE INSURANCE WITH UNITEDHEALTHCARE, UH, WITH BASIC LIFE INSURANCE AT $50,000 PER FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE OR ELECTED OFFICIAL, UM, LIFE INSURANCE. THE LIFE INSURANCE BENEFIT REDUCES [01:35:01] BY 35% AT AGE 65 AND 50% BY AGE 70, AND THAT'S THE EMPLOYER PAID PORTION. UH, WE RECOM, WE RECOMMEND MAINTAINING OUR UNIVERSAL LIFE INSURANCE, UH, AND THAT IS THROUGH TRUSTMARK. UM, AND THAT'S THE PORTABLE LIFE INSURANCE THAT COSTS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT, UM, YOU CAN TAKE IT WITH YOU AND, AND KEEP IT. UM, WE RECOMMEND MAINTAINING SHORT TERM DISABILITY, LONG-TERM DISABILITY, AND THE VOLUNTARY PRODUCTS SUCH AS CRITICAL ILLNESS, HOSPITAL INDEMNITY, AND ACCIDENT COVERAGE THROUGH UNITED HEALTHCARE. AND THAT, THAT IS WHAT I CORRECTED ON THIS FORM. I HAD IT AS A DIFFERENT CARRIER, BUT THOSE PRODUCTS ARE, UM, CARRIED THROUGH UNITED HEALTHCARE. SOME ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT WE RECOMMEND MAINTAINING IS THE EVER POPULAR IMAGING, UM, THROUGH HUNT REGIONAL IMAGING, WHERE THE COUNTY PAYS 100% OF THE COST OF THAT IMAGING. AND OUR EMPLOYEES ARE, ARE THE MEMBERS ON OUR PLAN ARE VIPS AT HUNT REGIONAL. AND SO THEY DO NOT PAY OUT OF POCKET. AND I, I DON'T RECALL IF I MENTIONED THIS LAST YEAR, IF ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE HOW THAT CAME ABOUT. BUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE HR DEPARTMENT, WHO'S SINCE RETIRED, WENT TO HAVE SOME IMAGING DONE, AND THEY GAVE HER A QUOTE, UH, THAT WOULD BE UNDER INSURANCE, BUT WHAT HER OUT OF POCKET WOULD BE. AND SHE SAID, WELL, WHAT WOULD IT COST IF I JUST PAID CASH? AND IT WAS LESS. AND SO WE STARTED, OUR BROKER STARTED CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ON THE COST SAVINGS TO THE COUNTY. UM, AND SO THAT'S HOW WE ENTERED INTO A DIRECT CONTRACT WHERE THEY CHARGE A CASH RATE TO THE COUNTY, WHICH ENDS UP BEING LESS THAN IF IT WOULD WERE TO GO THROUGH INSURANCE. AND THE EMPLOYEE, THE MEMBER ON OUR PLAN BENEFITS BY NOT HAVING TO PAY ANYTHING OUT OF POCKET. WE RECOMMEND MAINTAINING A CURRENT AGREEMENT WITH HELPING HANDS WHERE, UH, MEDICAL CARE IS PROVIDED TO ROCKWELL COUNTY EMPLOYEES FOR A COPAY OF $25. OH, I THINK I NEED TO, NO, I'M ON THE CORRECT SLIDE, SORRY. UM, AT $25. AND THAT AGREEMENT HAS IN, HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. UM, AND A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES CONSIDER THEIR PRIMARY CARE THERE AT HELPING HANDS BECAUSE THEY, THEY OFFER GREAT CARE, UM, TO OUR EMPLOYEES. UH, AND WE RECOMMEND MAINTAINING, EXCUSE ME, A CURRENT BENEFIT, UH, THROUGH UNITED HEALTHCARE TO OFFER PRIMARY CARE 24 7, URGENT CARE, BEHAVIORAL CARE, DERMATOLOGY, WOMEN'S HEALTH, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT, UM, MODES OF CARE THROUGH THE UNITED HEALTHCARE APP. UM, AND IT'S PART OF THEIR VIRTUAL CARE BENEFIT. UM, OUR MEMBER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS ALSO ON THE UNITED HEALTHCARE APP, AND THAT IS, UM, MORE OF A BENEFIT AS FAR AS BEHAVIORAL THERAPY AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND LEGAL ASSISTANCE. WE USED VIRTUAL CARE COMING BACK FROM A TRIP, AND THE DOCTOR SAW MY WIFE WAS DRIVING AND SAID, I HAVE TO SEE THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS DRIVING THE CAR. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY FUNNY, , BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO LIKE, TURN THE PHONE AND SAY, YES, MY HUSBAND IS DRIVING ME. THEY, THEY WERE ABOUT TO JUST SHUT THE CALL OFF WHEN THEY SAW SHE WAS IN A MOVING CAR. I, I, I I LIKE THAT. UM, KAMI, YOU, YOU, YOU KEEP SAYING WE, WE RECOMMEND, WE RECOMMEND IS THAT THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE? YES. IS THE WE OKAY. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. THAT'S OKAY. VAGUENESS, WE . UM, YES. THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE IS COMPRISED OF THE COUNTY TREASURER, COMMISSIONERS, LTI AND STACY AND I SERVE AS THE ADMINISTRATOR TO THE HEALTHCARE PLAN. SO THE HR MANAGER AND I PARTICIPATE IN THOSE MEETINGS. GOT IT. THANK YOU. UM, ONE THING THAT IS CHANGING, UH, THAT IT IS THE BENEFITS ADVOCACY PART OF OUR, UM, BENEFIT TO OUR EMPLOYEES. AND THAT TRANSITION IS OCCURRING BECAUSE OF OUR CHANGE IN BROKERS. UM, WE ARE TRANSITIONING FROM THE GALLAGHER BENEFITS ADVOCACY CENTER TO AVANT CARE THROUGH HOMES MURPHY, UM, AND THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE, UH, ENROLLMENT SERVICES FOR US THIS YEAR. YOU'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT DURING OPEN ENROLLMENT, UM, BENEFITS ADVOCACY, UH, FOR EMPLOYEES OR MEMBERS ON OUR PLAN WHO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR CLAIMS OR, UH, THEIR SPECIFIC BENEFITS. AND THE REPRESENTATIVES THROUGH HOLMES MURPHY AVAN WILL HAVE ACCESS TO OUR EMPLOYEES BENEFITS, WHEREAS THE GALLAGHER ADVOCATES DID NOT. SO WE HOPE THAT IT'LL BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO OUR EMPLOYEES. UM, AND THEN A NEW THING, [01:40:01] AND I WILL SEND THIS OUT HOPEFULLY THIS EVENING, AND THEN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION AT OPEN ENROLLMENT. UH, AVANT PROVIDES SENIOR SOLUTIONS FOR MEDICARE TRANSITIONS. UM, SO THEY PROVIDE A MEDI, I'M GONNA EMAIL OUT A MEDICARE TRANSITION GUIDE FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT MEDICARE, UM, MAYBE APPROACHING THE AGE OF ELIGIBILITY OR MAY ALREADY BE ELIGIBLE AND JUST CURIOUS ABOUT MEDICARE IN GEN IN GENERAL. BUT THEY OFFER, UM, FREE CONSULTATIONS, UM, AND ONE-ON-ONE DISCUSSIONS. SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING NEW TO US THAT GALLAGHER, THEY HAD SOMEWHAT OF A MEDICARE PROFESSIONAL, UM, BUT THEY ONLY HAD ONE. AND SO, UM, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE AS MUCH SERVICE AS THE AVANT TEAM APPEARS TO HAVE. UM, BUT I, LIKE I SAID, I WILL EMAIL MORE OF THAT OUT THIS EVENING AND THEN PROVIDE MORE DURING OPEN ENROLLMENT. AND THEN, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THE DETENTION OFFICER REFERRAL PROGRAM WHERE A CURRENT EMPLOYEE WHO REFERS CANDIDATES, UH, TO DETENTIONS AS A DETENTION OFFICER, UM, WOULD RECEIVE $500 ONCE THAT NEW HIRE COMPLETES 90 DAYS AND ANOTHER $500 ONCE THE NEW HIRE COMPLETES 180 DAYS. ALSO, THE VETERAN REFERRAL PROGRAM, UH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND MAINTAINING THE REFERRAL PROGRAM THAT AWARDS CURRENT EMPLOYEES FOR REFERRING CANDIDATES FOR ANY JOB IN THE COUNTY. UM, IF THAT NEW EMPLOYEE IS A VETERAN, A MILITARY VETERAN, THE AWARD AMOUNT IS $500 TO THE CURRENT EMPLOYEE. ONCE THAT NEW HIRE COMPLETES 90 DAYS AND BOTH REFERRAL PROGRAMS ON, THEY ONLY APPLY TO PERSONS, UH, THE NEW EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY. UM, AND WE RECOMMEND MAINTAINING THE CURRENT RETIREMENT BENEFITS SUCH AS, UH, DEFERRED COMPENSATION THROUGH NATIONWIDE. THAT'S OUR 4 57 B. UM, IF ANYONE LISTENING TO THIS, OUR EMPLOYEES WOULD LIKE INFORMATION ON THIS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO CONTACT HR AND WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT REP'S INFORMATION. UM, CLAYTON, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME. HE C PUCKETT, HE COMES OUT ABOUT ONCE A YEAR, USUALLY AROUND THE SAME TIME AS T-C-D-R-S AND MEETS WITH OUR EMPLOYEES ONE-ON-ONE. UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO REFER ANYONE TO HIM WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO HIM. UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UH, WE AS IN THE COUNTY OFFERED A MEDICARE SUPPLEMENT THROUGH TAC, UM, AND IT'S THE TRANSAMERICA, UH, BENEFIT. UM, WE STOPPED OFFERING THAT TO NEW, UH, RETIREES. UM, SO WE HAVE NINE GRANDFATHERED RETIREES PARTICIPATING, AND THAT WAS BEFORE US. THAT WAS, YES. THEY STOPPED THAT A LONG TIME AGO. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. UM, THEY ACTUALLY, I RECEIVED THEIR RATES. THEY ARE NOT HAVING A RATE INCREASE THIS YEAR. UM, WE STOPPED OFFERING IT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO BECAUSE, UH, THEIR RATES AT THAT TIME WERE NOT COMPETITIVE. UM, AND SO OUR RETIREES WERE JUMPING OFF OF THE PLAN AND THERE WAS A, A LOT OF BENEFITS OUT THERE THAT WERE BETTER. UM, AND SO THANKFULLY THEY ARE ONE OF THE FEW MEDICARE SUPPLEMENTS IN FOR 2028 THAT WILL NOT INCREASE THEIR RATES, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS FOR OUR RETIREES. WE RECOMMEND MAINTAINING THE PRE 65 HEALTH INSURANCE, WHICH IS THE CURRENT COUNTY'S PPO PLAN THAT HAS THE, UM, $1,250 DEDUCTIBLE, UM, PLUS DENTAL AND VISION, UM, TO, UH, MAINTAIN OFFERING THAT TO OUR RETIREES WHO ARE UNDER THE AGE OF 65. WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE TWO RETIREES PARTICIPATING. UM, AND I'LL REVIEW THE RATES FOR THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. ONCE I GET TO THE PLAN DESIGNS AND THE RATES FOR EMPLOYEES, WE RECOMMEND MAINTAINING THE COUNTY MONTHLY STIPEND. IT'S CURRENTLY, UM, IN THE BUDGET AT $150 MONTHLY TO THE GRANDFATHERED RETIREES. SO THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY CURRENTLY RECEIVING $150 PER MONTH, EITHER THROUGH DIRECT DEPOSIT CHECK OR A DEDUCTION FROM THEIR TRANSAMERICA UM, PAYMENT, UM, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THAT $150. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 90 RETIREES PARTICIPATING IN THAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT SLIDE? UM, STOP-LOSS. I WILL NEED TO BRING THIS BACK TO THE COURT FOR YOUR [01:45:01] APPROVAL. WE ARE CURRENTLY OUT BID, UM, OR ACCEPTING BIDS FOR STOP-LOSS CARRIERS. UM, THE, THE COURT RECENTLY APPROVED FOR HR AND HOLMES MURPHY TO GO OUT FOR BID, AND SO WE ARE ACCEPTING PROPOSALS BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 22ND, WHICH IS, THAT'S TODAY THROUGH OCTOBER 6TH. AND THOSE GO DIRECTLY TO HOLMES MURPHY. THEY'LL COMPILE 'EM AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT HIGH LEVEL, WHAT DOES STOP LOSS DO? STOP-LOSS IS REINSURANCE. IT IS THE INSURANCE TO THE COUNTIES. INSURANCE FOR OUR INSURANCE. SO IF WE HAVE, UH, AN, A CURRENT MEMBER ON OUR PLAN WHOSE CLAIMS EXCEED 150,000, UM, THAT DIFFERENT, WE, THE COUNTY PAYS THE FIRST 150,000 AND THEN THE REINSURANCE COMPANY REIMBURSES THE COUNTY. THE DIFFERENCE. SO IF THE CLAIMS TOTAL CLAIMS FOR THAT YEAR, OUR, OUR 180,000, THE COUNTY PAYS FOR THAT FIRST 150 AND THE REINSURANCE COMPANY REIMBURSES THE 30,000. GOT IT. THANK YOU. AS FAR AS PLAN DESIGN, THERE ARE NO CHANGES FROM 2026. IF YOU RECALL, WE STARTED OFFERING THREE PLANS THIS YEAR. UM, TWO PPO PLANS. THE ORIGINAL, THE O-G-E-P-P-O, UM, HAS A DEDUCTIBLE OF $1,250, UM, FOR THE INDIVIDUAL AND $2,500 FOR THE FAMILY. UM, THE SECOND PPO THAT WE STARTED OFFERING THIS YEAR HAS A HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE AT $2,500 FOR THE INDIVIDUAL AND 5,000 FOR THE FAMILY, BUT IT HAS A LOWER MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION. UM, AND THOSE, UH, BENEFITS, THE COPAYS, EVERYTHING WILL STAY EXACTLY THE SAME. UM, AND THE HSA, WE WILL CONTINUE TO OFFER A HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT WHERE THE EMPLOYER OR THE COUNTY CONTRIBUTION WILL, WOULD REMAIN $600 FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY $1,200 FOR EMPLOYEE PLUS SPOUSE, $1,200 ACTUALLY FOR EMPLOYEE, SPOUSE, CHILD AND FAMILY. SO, UM, THAT'S A PRETTY GENEROUS CONTRIBUTION THAT ROCKWELL COUNTY IS MAKING TO THEIR EMPLOYEES. UM, LET ME GET INTO, OH, THAT'S JUST WHAT I SAID. OKAY. SO AS FAR AS, THESE ARE MONTHLY RATES. UM, AND LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE, THE COUNTY IS SHARING THE INCREASE WITH THE MEMBERS ON OUR PLAN. THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS ARE WHAT WE EXPECT TO ENROLL IN OUR PLANS FOR 2027. AND THEN, UM, IF YOU NOTICE, THE EMPLOYEE MONTHLY RATES WOULD INCREASE BY 4%. UM, AND THAT'S ACROSS THE LINE FOR ALL THREE PLANS. AND THE EMPLOYER INCREASE WOULD, FOR THE PPOS RANGE BETWEEN FOUR AND 5.2%. AND THEN FOR THE HSA, IT WOULD INCREASE BY, UH, ONE POINT HALF TO 1.8%. WHEN, WHEN DO THOSE UH, KICK IN? IS IT OCTOBER ONE OR JANUARY? JANUARY ONE. JANUARY ONE, YES. WE WILL HAVE OPEN ENROLLMENT IN OCTOBER. WHAT DATE IS THAT? THE 15TH. UM, FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO COME LEARN ABOUT THE BENEFITS OR RELEARN ABOUT OUR, OUR CURRENT BENEFITS, BUT ALSO, UM, THEN THEY'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP FOR A TIME TO SPEAK WITH AN ENROLLMENT COUNSELOR, UM, AND SELECT THEIR BENEFITS. AND THOSE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY ONE. AND THEN JUST SO THE COURT KNOWS, THESE ARE ILLUSTRATIVE RATES BECAUSE WE ARE SELF-INSURED, SO WHEN IT LOOKS AT THE EMPLOYER DIFFERENCE, WE'RE KIND OF CALCULATING WHAT WE, WHAT WE THINK THE RATES MIGHT BE, THOSE AREN'T FINALIZED YET. AND THEN I JUST WANNA REMIND THE COURT THAT WHEN WE DID THE SURVEY, IT WAS OVERWHELMING THAT THE EMPLOYEES WANTED INCREMENTAL SMALL CHANGES. AND SINCE WE KNOW WE'RE IN A BUDGET CRUNCH WITH THE INSURANCE, WE DECIDED LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND DO THIS SO THAT WE DON'T GET TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND HAVE TO DO AN EIGHT OR A 10 OR A 12 ALL AT ONCE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO JUST BE KIND OF GOOD PLANNING AND WORKING WITH THE EMPLOYEES AND THAT SURVEY WAS ALMOST OVERWHELMING THAT THEY WOULD RATHER JUST GET SMALL INCREMENTAL CHANGE RATHER THAN HAVE US GO A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEN DROP A, A, A BIG INCREASE ON THEM, WHICH IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT IT'S, IT'S BEING DRAWN UP LIKE THIS. IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE THE HSA, WHICH WE INTRODUCED LAST YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME, IS POPULAR IN BECOMING MORE POPULAR. WE HOPE IT WILL BE MORE [01:50:01] POPULAR NEXT YEAR. THESE ARE PROJECTED ENROLLMENTS. YEAH, YOU USUAL 69 PROJECTED. AND FRANKLY, THE FACT THAT WE JUST STARTED LAST YEAR AND THERE ARE ALREADY THAT MANY PEOPLE MOVING INTO IT, IS REALLY ENCOURAGING. I THINK IT'S A GREAT ADDITION FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. I THINK THE MORE THE EMPLOYEES LEARN ABOUT THE A HSA AND WHAT IT EXACTLY IS AND TALK TO THEIR COWORKERS ABOUT HOW IT BENEFITS THEM, UM, THAT MORE AND MORE WILL START TO ENROLL IN IT. ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MONTHLY RATES? OKAY. DENTAL AND VISION, BOTH. UM, THE INTENTION IS FOR THE EMPLOYEE TO PAY THE FULL, UH, RATE FOR DENTAL AND VISION. UM, AND THE DENTAL WILL INCREASE BY 4%. AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE EMPLOYER DIFFERENCE IS REDUCING. UH, THE SAME WITH VISION. IF YOU NOTICE THAT, UM, VISION IS INCREASING QUITE A BIT BECAUSE OUR PREVIOUS BROKER DID NOT PROVIDE US ACCURATE RATES. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF A TIDYING UP, I GUESS. UM, SO WE'RE MAKING SOME CORRECTIONS IN, IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD THE PRE 65 MONTHLY CONTRIBUTIONS. AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO PARTICIPANTS ON THIS PLAN. UM, THIS IS AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE FULL RATE. UM, THERE IS NO EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION. THE RETIREE WOULD MAKE THE FULL CONTRIBUTION AND THEIR, UM, I THINK I DID THE MATH ON THIS. THE MONTHLY RATES WOULD INCREASE BY BETWEEN FOUR AND FOUR POINT A HALF PERCENT FOR MEDICAL. AND THEN ALONG THE SAME LINES FOR DENTAL AND VISION, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL MAKING THOSE, UH, CORRECTIONS MOVING FORWARD. UM, SO THESE ARE THE FULL RATES FOR 2027 FOR PRE 65 MONTHLY CONTRIBUTIONS. AND THEN COBRA, THOSE ARE THE SAME RATES PLUS 2%. AND THAT IS A, I ADMIT I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND, UM, WHY, BUT, UH, IT IS THE FULL RATE PLUS 2%, AND I THINK THAT IS THAT SET BY THE FED. THAT'S SO, IT, IT IS. SO THAT'S, SO CPI CAN MAKE THEIR MONEY TO DO THE WORK. OH, AND THEN, UM, WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE BUDGET AS FAR AS FIXED COSTS, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE FEES OF $65 PER, UM, EMPLOYEE PER MONTH ON THE PLAN THAT COVERS ALL OF THE UNITED HEALTHCARE ADMINISTRATION WITH THE PRESCRIPTION COVERAGE AND CPI ADMINISTRATION, OUR NEW AVANT UH, BENEFITS ADVOCACY CENTER, THE TEXAS ACES PROGRAM, AND THE UNITEDHEALTHCARE UTILIZATION MANAGEMENT OF OUR PRESCRIPTION PROGRAM. KIM, IS THAT JUST ABOUT THE SAME AS THE ONE THE PREVIOUS, UM, CARRIER WE HAD AS FAR AS, UM, THE, THE PER EMPLOYEE? WELL, IT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GIVEN BY GALLAGHER. UM, IT IS NOT THE SAME, UH, LA IN 2025, I DON'T KNOW WHY I DON'T HAVE 26 ON HERE, BUT IN 2025, WE BUDGETED 153,000 TOTAL FOR THE YEAR. WHEREAS IN 2027, WE'RE BUDGETING 263,000. UM, THE, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT SOME OF THESE FIXED COSTS WERE WITHIN OTHER LINES, I ACCOUNTED FOR THEM AND OTHER LINES WITHIN FUND 180 5 IN THE BUDGET. THIS IS JUST MORE OF AN ACCURATE DEPICTION, UM, AS FAR AS ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. SO I KNOW, AND IT HAS INCREASED, THE, THE COST HAS INCREASED. UM, BUT IT'S PROBABLY ME, ME GIVING THOSE NUMBERS IS PROBABLY NOT AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE RATE THAT HAS INCREASED. I CAN GET THAT AMOUNT TO YOU, UH, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I'M MAKING ANY SENSE, BUT AND, AND THAT WILL FINALIZE WHEN WE ACCEPT STOP-LOSS 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A STOP-LOSS CARRIER YET. SO SOME OF THIS IS GUESSING, THIS ISN AN UNFORTUNATE TIMING MECHANISM. AND THEN, AS YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE BUDGET, THE COUNTY BUDGET WILL BUDGET IN 2027, $14,300 PER FULL-TIME POSITION AND IN ORDER TO FUND THE PLAN IN QUESTIONS. [01:55:02] THANK YOU. VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD PRESENTATION. UM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. UM, THERE'S NO QUESTIONS. I THINK WE ACTUALLY NEED TO APPROVE THE BENEFITS EVEN THOUGH WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED FOR THE BENEFITS. YES, PLEASE. UH, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY'S SO INCLINED. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FOR 2027, INCLUDING MEDICAL, DENTAL, VISION, VOLUNTARY, UM, AS PRESENTED BY THE HR DIRECTOR. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY. I'LL SECOND THAT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT [3.T) Discuss/Act on approving an agreement with iSolved Talent Acquisition for the use of their online employment application programs, and all related issues; (Judge New - HR Director)] TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM THREE T DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH ISOL TALENT ACQUISITION FOR THE USE OF THEIR ONLINE EMPLOYMENT APPLICATION PROGRAMS AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. HR DIRECTOR WEB. UH, I LEARNED VERY RECENTLY THAT OUR CURRENT APPLICANT JOB POSTING, UH, PLATFORM HAS BEEN BOUGHT OUT. UM, ABOUT A MONTH AGO I RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM, FROM THE COMPANY, WHICH IS IOL, TALENT ACQUISITION, WHO BOUGHT OUT, UM, APPLICANT POOL, UH, INFORMATION ON HOW TO RENEW WITH THEM. AND SO CRAIG STARTER, UH, HELPED ME REVIEW THE AGREEMENT AND HE WROTE THE ATTACHED ADDENDUM. UM, I WILL SAY THAT IOL HAS NOT, THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS NOT RESPONDED YET. UM, I, CRAIG AND I HAVE BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH OUR REP, OUR REP WITH IOL, AND HE IS ASSURED US THAT SINCE THE DE THE DELAY IS ON THEIR SIDE, UM, THERE WILL BE NO DISRUPTION TO OUR SERVICE. UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF JOBS POSTED RIGHT NOW AS A RESULT OF THE, THE BUDGET. UM, AND SO THAT WAS MY FEAR THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME DISRUPTION, BUT THEY'VE ASSURED US THAT W THERE WILL BE NONE. UM, I KNOW DUSTY'S HERE, UH, IN THE BACK, AND SO IF I SAY THIS WRONG, IF YOU WILL PLEASE LET ME KNOW. BUT, UM, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE COURT APPROVE THE AGREEMENT WITH IOP TALENT ACQUISITION SUBJECT TO THEIR ACCEPTANCE OF THE LIMITED ADDENDUM PROPOSED BY ROCKWELL COUNTY LEGAL. ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? IF, IF NOT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE AGREEMENT WITH ISOL TALENT ACQUISITION, UH, INCLUDING THE LIMITED ADDENDUM TO THE AGREEMENT FOR USE OF THEIR ONLINE EMPLOYMENT APPLICATION PROGRAM. I'LL SECOND THAT. GOT MY MOTION. WE HAVE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT [3.U) Discuss/Act on a contract with Kronos SaaShr, Inc. ("UKG) for the purposes of timekeeping software, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM THREE U DISCUSS AN ACT ON A CONTRACT WITH KRONOS, S-A-A-S-H-R, INCORPORATED, UKG FOR THE PURPOSES OF TIMEKEEPING, SOFTWARE, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY? YEAH, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM, WE BUDGETED, UH, $72,000 FOR THIS SOFTWARE. THIS PRICE CAME IN AT $63,000 WHEN IT WAS FINALLY NEGOTIATED. UM, WE DID LITIGATE THIS QUITE A BIT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO THIS WOULD BE STARTING THE TIMEKEEPING SOFTWARE PART OF IT. THE NEXT ITEM IS GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON SOME OF THE TRANSITION ASPECTS. SO WHEN WE START, IT'S JUST POINTING OUT THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN ON DAY ONE. THE BILL ISN'T DUE TILL JANUARY 1ST. THE REASON THAT WE'RE ACTING ON IT IS SO WE CAN BEGIN TRAINING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROCESS IN HOPES THAT WE CAN HIRE A PERSON, GET THEM TRAINED, AND START THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS ACTION COMING TODAY, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A DELAYED PROCESS, AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE SOFTWARE SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THE SOFTWARE OBJECTED IMPLEMENTATION DATE TO GO LIVE WITH IT. YOU SAID JANUARY, THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN MORE DETAIL, BUT, BUT THIS IS JUST BRINGING THE SOFTWARE ON THE DUE DATES IN JANUARY SO THAT WE CAN START THE PROCESS OF TRAINING AND IMPLEMENTATION. YES, SIR. UM, THE, IT DOES SAY THAT THERE'S A FIXED FEE THAT IS DUE UPON THE SIGNATURE OF THE, THIS ORDER, BUT THAT 10,000, IS THAT, IS THAT DUE OR NOT? THEY TOLD ME THAT WE WOULDN'T PAY ANYTHING TILL JANUARY. SO IF IT'S IN THE CONTRACT, IT PROBABLY IS AND IT WAS JUST OVERSIGHT. BUT THE MAIN BULK OF THIS WILL BE DUE IN JANUARY 1ST. THAT'S WHEN THE INVOICE IS COMING. YEAH, IT SAYS IT'S A LAUNCH FIXED FEE OF 10,000, BILLED 100% UPON SIGNATURE OF THE ORDER FORM. YEAH, I HAVE IT IN WRITING FROM UKG THAT THEY'LL BILL US IN JANUARY. OKAY, PERFECT. I WON'T DO ANYTHING THEN. [02:00:01] . SO, AND I, AND I THINK DANIEL RAY HAS SEEN THAT TOO, AS WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH TRYING TO GET THIS CONTRACT DONE. 'CAUSE, UH, A LOT OF HELP FROM ARNOLD. A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH ON THIS CONTRACT. SO, SO WITH THAT, UM, JUDGE, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH KRONOS, S-A-A-S-H-R INCORPORATED. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FOUR TO ONE. THAT [3.V) Discuss/Act on a Resolution and Order establishing a phased transition of county employee timekeeping administration, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM THREE V, DISCUSS AN ACT ON A RESOLUTION AND ORDER ESTABLISHING A PHASE TRANSITION OF COUNTY EMPLOYEE TIMEKEEPING, ADMINISTRATION, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY? YEAH, SO THIS GOES INTO THE PHASED APPROACH THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. UM, I DEPENDED A LOT ON DANIEL RAY'S FIRM TO GET THIS WRITTEN. SO THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT I PARTICULARLY WROTE AS MUCH AS I KIND OF DIRECTED, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. UM, THE, UH, DANIEL'S FIRM REPRESENTED RAINS COUNTY THAT DID THIS LAST YEAR. SOMETHING EXTREMELY SIMILAR WITH HR FUNCTIONS MOVING, UM, FROM THE TREASURER'S OFFICE INTO THE, UH, INTO THE HRS. UH, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, TO BEST MAKE THIS WORK. UM, THE TREASURER HAS STATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN, HE WILL NOT AND DOES NOT MISS A PAYROLL. AND WE ARE GONNA KEEP THAT. WE ARE NOT JUST GOING TO JUMP INTO A SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T WORK. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE RAMP UP PROGRAM, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE GONNA RUN TWO PAYROLLS ON BOTH SYSTEMS BEFORE WE SAY WE'RE PREPARED TO TRANSITION. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. WHETHER THAT TAKES US TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, OR THIS THING COMPLETELY BLOWS UP ON OUR FACE AND WE NEVER DO IT UNTIL WE CAN RUN TWO SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS SIMULTANEOUSLY, WE'RE NOT GONNA ACCEPT THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO MOVE. AND THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THIS BUBBLES INTO. AND THEN DANIEL RAI'S FIRM WROTE, UH, JUST A RESOLUTION TO LET THE COURT KNOW THAT THERE ARE ACTIONS THAT THE COURT NEEDS TO DO IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY MAKE THIS TRANSITION. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, THAT I, I, UH, I, I HAD WRITTEN FOR LAUREN, NOT TO PICK ON LAUREN, BUT SAYING WHAT IS THE PLAN? AND I DO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO MEMORIALIZE WHAT IS THE PROCESS. THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE, BUT NOT EVERYONE ON THE COURT'S BEEN WORKING ON. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS RESOLUTION. IT IS JUST FOR US TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE KNOWING THAT WE'RE GONNA HIRE A CLERK, WE'RE GONNA TRAIN THE SYSTEM, AND UNTIL THE SYSTEM SUCCESSFULLY WORKS TWICE, THERE WILL BE NO ACTION TO MOVE IT. THERE'S GONNA BE AN EVOLUTION OF POLICIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WILL BE WORKING THROUGH DURING THE TRANSITION. SO THAT'S THE POINT OF THIS RESOLUTION. UM, COMMISSIONER STACEY, THANK YOU FOR DOING THE RESOLUTION. YOU DID EXACTLY WHAT I ASKED YOU TO DO. I THINK IT'S A GREAT RESOLUTION. OUR ATTORNEYS HAVE DONE WELL WRITTEN. THE REASON I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST FOR THIS IS NOT BECAUSE THE RESOLUTION IS BAD, BUT BECAUSE I FALL BACK ON THE OLD SLOGAN, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. RESPECT YOU FOR IT. AND WE BROKE AND I THINK WE GOT SOME STILL CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEES AND PERSONNEL GOING FORWARD. AND SO ANYWAY, GREAT JOB ON THE RESOLUTION. THANKS FOR DOING IT. IT'S WHAT I ASKED FOR, BUT THAT'S THE REASON I'LL BE AGAINST IT. FAIR ENOUGH. WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION JUDGE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AND ORDER ESTABLISHING A PHASE TRANSITION OF COUNTY EMPLOYEE TIMEKEEPING ADMINISTRATION. YOU HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FOUR TO ONE. THAT TAKES US [3.W) Discuss/Act on Approval of Carahsoft Technology Corporation for Docusign Contract, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] TO AGENDA ITEM THREE W DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVAL OF CARESOFT TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION FOR DOCUSIGN CONTRACT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACY, THIS WAS ALSO A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WITH ARNOLD AND DOCUSIGN AND CARESOFT. SO, UH, I APPRECIATE THE WORK, DANIEL, THAT YOUR FIRM PUT INTO GETTING THIS ADDENDUM APPROVED AND FIGURED OUT. UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR. IT'S GONNA BE A RESOLUTION ON A COURT ORDER ON ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE. SO I'M JUST KIND OF DECIDED, HEY, LET'S GET DOCUSIGN PUT IN IT. IT WAS BUDGETED AND LEGAL HAS LOOKED THROUGH, UH, THIS CONTRACT AND HAS SUBMITTED IT FOR APPROVAL. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT IN DETAIL IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO THIS IS JUST GETTING THIS THING MOVING FORWARD. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COURT MEMBERS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE, UH, THE CARAHSOFT TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION FOR THE DOCUSIGN CONTRACT. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. I'LL SECOND THAT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT [3.X) Discuss/Act on an Order and Resolution on Electronic Signatures Policy, and all related issues; (Commissioner Stacy)] TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM THREE X, DISCUSS AND ACT ON AN ORDER AND RESOLUTION ON ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES, POLICIES, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER STACEY? SO THIS IS A, UH, WE HAVE TO ACCEPT ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES TO BE ABLE TO USE DOCUSIGN BY COURT ORDER. THIS GIVES US THAT OPPORTUNITY. THIS WAS ALSO SOMETHING WRITTEN BY, UM, DANIEL RAY'S FIRM. [02:05:01] SO I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR THAT. AND I JUST WANT THE COURT TO KNOW THAT MEREDITH AND I ARE GONNA PRETTY MUCH TAKE THE LEAD AND THE EXECUTION OF THIS COURT ORDER, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL OF THIS MOVING FORWARD, UM, IN A WAY THAT MAKES EVERYONE COMFORTABLE AND THAT HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE USING DOCUSIGN PRETTY QUICK. I SEE YOU HAVE NOTES, SO WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, I, I JUST HAD ONE, PLEASE. YEP. JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, IN THE RESOLUTION SECTION THREE, IT REFERS TO SEV, UH, SECTION ONE C TWO, AND IT SAYS FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS NAMED IN THERE, WHICH THANKFULLY DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UM, FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS NAMED IN THERE, ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES CAN ONLY BE USED FOR SIGNING AND IT'S GOTTA BE EXECUTED EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH THOSE PLATFORMS. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT EXCLUSIVELY. I'VE, YOU'VE ALREADY WON THE WAR AND WE'RE GOING TO ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS REQUIRE IT TO BE EXCLUSIVE EXECUTION ELECTRONICALLY BECAUSE THERE MAY BE CHANGES AS WE GO FORWARD WHERE IT'S NOT ALL DONE IN 90 DAYS. AND IT ALSO SAYS IF IT'S, UM, THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING IN IT THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IF IT CAN'T BE USED AND, AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF, WE CAN DEFINITELY SOFTEN THAT LANGUAGE FOR SURE. UM, THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAD ABOUT THIS. WELL, HOLD ON. I SAW SOME OTHER NOTES, BUT, BUT I, AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA GO TO EX TO ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES, BUT, BUT IF WE SAY THAT IT HAS TO BE EXECUTED EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH THE PLATFORM, THAT WOULD MEAN OF SOMETHING WE'RE SIGNED OUTSIDE IT, IT'S, WE'RE SAYING IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE HERE. HERE'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT. AND IF IT'S NOT WRITTEN THIS WAY, LET ME KNOW. AND THAT IS DOCUSIGN WILL BE OUR ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE. SO YOU USE THAT ONE OR YOU GET IT SIGNED BY PAPER. THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD THAT. I COULD BE WRONG, BUT, BUT THE INTENT WAS TO SAY WE HAVE ONE PLATFORM AND THAT IS DOCUSIGN. IT WASN'T THE WAY YOU'RE SAYING IT ISN'T HOW YOU INTENDED IT. CORRECT. WHICH IS WHY I'M SAYING IF I'M, IF THIS IS WRONG, I'M WILLING TO ACCEPT IT. 'CAUSE IT WAS JUST SAYING WE'RE WE'RE USING DOCUSIGN OR YOU'RE, OR YOU'RE GETTING IT SIGNED ON A PIECE OF PAPER. I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY YOU HAVE TO GET IT SIGNED ELECTRONICALLY. I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS, THIS IS THE, THE THE ONE YOU WILL USE. RIGHT. AND, AND THAT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH. AND HE GIVES A 90 DAY, BUT IT, BUT IT GOES ON TO SAY, AND DANIEL, YOU CAN INTERPRET THIS, BUT IT GOES ON THE SECOND LINE. IT SAYS, EXECUTE EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH THE PLATFORM, ALL INTERNAL APPROVALS AND PERMISSIONS. AND THIS INCLUDES, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS ROAD AND BRIDGE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE COMING IN SIGNING THINGS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IMPACT. I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF WE SAY WE WANNA GET IT GOING IN 90 DAYS, BUT I DON'T THINK THE EXECUTE EXCLUSIVELY LANGUAGE IS WHAT WE SHOULD GO TO HERE. AND, AND, AND I, UM, AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY FINE. AND, AND DEFINITELY WASN'T. THE WASN'T TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE ONLY WAY YOU COULD EVER DO BUSINESS. RIGHT. IT WAS JUST TO SAY, AND THAT MAKES SENSE. THIS IS, THIS IS HOW YOU'RE GONNA DO BUSINESS. BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. AND IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT, DANIEL, I AGREE TO TAKE THAT OUT SO THE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXECUTED EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH IT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IN, UH, SECTION THREE A SECTION THREE A? YEAH. WHERE IT SAYS THE SECOND LINE THERE WHERE IT SAYS EXECUTE EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH THE PATH PLATFORM. UM, YOU CAN, UH, MAKE A MO IF, IF, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER CHANGES, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THIS WITH THE, UH, CHANGE OF, UH, REMOVING THAT WORD EXCLUSIVELY. OKAY. THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD, I THINK, I HATE TO SAY ONLY 'CAUSE THEN I WAS COMING WITH SOMETHING ELSE, BUT IF YOU GO TO SECTION SEVEN, IT TALKS ABOUT DOCUMENTS THAT ARE EXCLUDED. UM, AND THAT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD LIST. UH, EXCEPT I DIDN'T, SHOULD WE EXCLUDE DOCUMENTS THAT REQUIRE A NOTARY? 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD DO THE NOTARIES ELECTRONICALLY. RIGHT? AND IF SOMEBODY HAS TO BRING IN A DOCUMENT, THEN THEY GET IT NOTARIZED. THAT WOULD BE, IT JUST SEEMED TO ME THAT GIVEN THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS, PEOPLE GO TO NOTARIES STILL PHYSICALLY A LOT. WHAT I'M DEFINITELY AMENABLE TO ADDING TO INCLUDE A NOTARY IN SECTION SEVEN TWO WAY AUDIO. YOU, YOU CAN, THERE WAS, THERE WAS LAWS, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER ALANA PASSED DURING THE COVID THING THAT LOOSENED ALL THAT UP. UM, BUT I STILL THINK THE GENERAL PREVAILING WAY OF DOING IT IS PEOPLE JUST GO TO NOTARIES. SO IF WE COULD REQUIRE IT, IT STARTS OUT, THIS ORDER DOES NOT REQUIRE [02:10:01] OR AUTHORIZE EXECUTIONS PLATFORM OF BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE PLATFORM WHICH IS DEFINED AS OUR DOCUSIGN SYSTEM INCLUDES A NOTARIZATION FUNCTION OR NOT. IT PROBABLY COULD, BUT I'M, I'M OKAY WITH, WITH INCLUDING NOTARIZED DOCUMENTS. I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BIG DEAL AT ALL. YEAH. OKAY. THAT, THAT'S, THAT IS THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TRY, DANIEL STILL HAS HIS LIGHT ON. SORRY, DANIEL. YES, SIR. YEAH. AND THEN THE, THE RIGHT WAY TO MAKE THE MOTION WOULD BE TO REMOVE THE EXCLUSIVITY IN SECTION THREE A, A, UH, AND THEN TO ADD SUBSECTION G TO SECTION SEVEN, UM, FOR DOCUMENTS REQUIRED TO BE NOTARIZED. ALL RIGHT, JUDGE, I'LL, UH, I'LL, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ORDER AND RESOLUTION ON ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES POLICY WITH THE AMENDMENT IN THREE A TO REMOVE THE EXCLUSIVITY LANGUAGE AND TO ADD SECTION G, UM, A SUBSECTION G TO SECTION SEVEN THAT INCLUDES NOTARIZED DOCUMENTS. HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. [3.Y) Discuss/Act on approving an annual service agreement with PublicInput, and all related issues; (Judge New)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         ] THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM THREE Y, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING AN ANNUAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH PUBLIC INPUT AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. THIS IS, UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, SEVERAL, UM, NEW CONTRACTS. THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE APPROVED IN THE BUDGET, SO DOESN'T SURPRISE ANYONE. UH, JUST WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT SO IT'S READY TO GO IN OCTOBER, WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. I DO THINK THAT THERE'S TWO CONTRACTS IN FRONT OF US. SO, UM, LISA, I'M GONNA ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU TO FACT CHECK ME WHILE I TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT I THINK THE, THE ISSUES ARE. I BELIEVE WE PUT 28,250 IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS SOFTWARE. I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I, I, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S THE, THAT WAS, UM, ON PAGE SEVEN OF THE BUDGET ON COUNTY ADMINISTRATION LINE ITEM 4 65. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WOULD BE UNDER THAT LINE ITEM OTHER THAN THIS, SO I DON'T WANNA BE WRONG. UM, BUT WE HAVE ONE OPTION THAT HAS MORE TEXT MESSAGES THAN THE OTHER, AND, AND I JUST KIND OF LEAN ON, THEY'RE OFF BY A THOUSAND DOLLARS. BOTH OF THEM ARE UNDER THE BUDGETED AMOUNT. I JUST THINK THAT WHILE WE'RE TESTING IT OUT IN YEAR ONE, UNLIKE WHAT LAUREN WANTED TO DO WITH, UM, QQ, UH, NEMO QI THINK WE GO MORE SEE HOW IT WORKS OUT AND, AND, AND THEN SEE HOW WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO SO THAT WE DON'T GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS AND REGRET NOT FULLY UNDERSTANDING HOW, HOW THE TEXT MESSAGING OR WHAT THE CAPABILITIES ARE. SO I THINK IF THEY'RE BOTH UNDER BUDGET, WE JUST GO TO THE ONE WITH MORE TEXT MESSAGES AND THEN LET JIM AND US KIND OF WORK THROUGH HOW WE WANT THAT TO LOOK GOING INTO NEXT YEAR. WELL, ACTUALLY, TO YOUR SURPRISE, I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE, UH, AND I DISCUSSED THIS WITH, UH, JIM, UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS THAT, IS DESPITE THE ISSUES I HAVE WITH DOING THIS, THAT SINCE WE'RE DOING IT, UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAVE IS THAT WE'RE GONNA BURN THROUGH THE TEXTS WAY TOO FAST. SO I, I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU. YEAH. AND DID YOU, HAVE YOU GOTTEN THAT ANSWER BACK? YEAH, I'M TRYING TO CHECK WITH MELISSA. NO, NO, I KNOW, I, I JUST, I I THINK BOTH OF THEM ARE UNDER BUDGET. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WOULD BE UNDER THAT FOUR 50 LINE ITEM. UM, I KNOW I CONFIRMED WITH HER BEFORE WHEN I READ THE AGENDA TO CONFIRM WITH HER THAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS IN THE BUDGET. I JUST DON'T KNOW, UH, AT WHAT AMOUNT. AND THEN, UM, IF I'M CORRECT, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, AND JIM, YOU CAN CORRECT ME. THE 27 500 IS THE ONE WITH ALL THE TEXT MESSAGING IN IT. SO, UM, I WAS GOING TO, SHE SAID SHE SAID 28,000. OKAY, PERFECT. SO, UH, JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ANNUAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH PUBLIC INPUT FOR $27,500. HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, I'LL SECOND THAT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT BRINGS US [3.Z) Discuss/Act on approving the Proposal from Kofile for the preservation and conservation treatment services included in Quote No. Q-04226 as presented. This will be funded through the County Clerks Records Archive Funds, and all related issues; (Jude New - County Clerk)] TO AGENDA ITEM THREE Z, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE PROPOSAL FROM COFI FOR THE PRESERVATION AND CONSERVATION TREATMENT SERVICES, INCLUDED IN QUOTE NUMBER Q 0 4 2 2 6 AS PRESENTED. THIS WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH THE COUNTY CLERK'S RECORDS, ARCHIVE FUNDS, AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COUNTY CLERK FOG, UH, JUDGE. YES, SIR. UM, I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH, WITH OUR COUNTY CLERK. AND IF IT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY, WE'RE GONNA PULL THIS OFF THE AGENDA AND SHE AND I ARE GONNA LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH. ARE YOU, ARE YOU AMENABLE TO THAT? ALL RIGHT, I, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH [02:15:01] THAT. WE WILL MOVE RIGHT AROUND THREE Z AND TAKE US [3.AA) Discuss/Act on approving a new copier lease with CPI for District Clerk (Passport office) at a monthly cost of $47.45; (Commissioner Stacy)] TO THREE AA, DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING A NEW COPIER LEASE WITH CPI FOR THE DISTRICT CLERK PASSPORT OFFICE AT A MONTHLY COST OF $47 AND 45 CENTS. COMMISSIONER STACY? YES, UH, CURRENTLY WE ARE SPENDING ABOUT A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH ON TONER FOR THIS COPIER. SO THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD CHANGE. I KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T BREAK THE BANK TO, TO SAVE THIS MONEY, BUT IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO SAVE MONEY WHEN WE CAN. LEAH WAS HERE, I TOLD HER SHE DIDN'T NEED TO STAY, SO SHE WENT BACK TO WORK. SO I DO APPRECIATE HER SHOWING UP. I APPRECIATE IT AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE FOR WORKING WITH ME THROUGH ALL THESE COPIER, UM, ITEMS. ELENA WAS, UH, SENT IT SENT LEAH STRAIGHT TO ME WHEN SHE WAS TRYING TO GET THIS COPIER. SO WE HAVE A GOOD LINE OF COMMUNICATION NOW AND I APPRECIATE IT AND LEAH, FOR TRYING TO FIND COST SAVINGS WHERE THEY CAN. AND SO THIS IS THE MACHINE PRIMARILY USED IN THE, IT IS THE PRIMARY MACHINE IN THE PASSPORT OFFICE. SO IT'S A GOOD SERVICE FOR OUR PEOPLE. AND JUDGE, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE NEW COPIER LEASE WITH CPI FOR THE DISTRICT CLERK FOR $47 AND 45 CENTS A MONTH. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT TAKES US TO [3.AB) Discuss/Act on approving a renewal copier lease with CPI for the Sheriff's Office Clerks at a monthly cost of $235.00; (Commissioner Stacy)] THREE AB DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A RENEWAL COPIER LEASE WITH CPI FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CLERKS AT A MONTHLY COST OF $235. COMMISSIONER STA I'M JUST GONNA LUMP BOTH OF THESE INTO ONE DISCUSSION REAL FAST 'CAUSE IT'S EASY. WE, WE DIDN'T APPROVE THIS BEFORE BECAUSE THIS WAS STUCK IN A CLOSET WHEN WE DID ALL THE OTHER COPY MACHINES. SO, UM, BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION NOW IT IS OUT, IT'S BEING USED. SO WE HAVE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE USED BY THE RECORDS CLERK, WHICH IS THE ONE YOU HAVE NOW. AND THEN WE'RE ADDING A MUCH LARGER MULTIFUNCTION ONE TO THE ADMIN AREA BECAUSE IN THE NEW REMODEL, THE ADMIN AREA IS GONNA HAVE A COPY, UH, ROOM ADDED ONTO IT. AND SO THIS IS HELPING US ELIMINATE A LOT OF THE PERSONAL PRINTERS THROUGHOUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND PUTTING A BIG GOOD USE. SO THEY'LL HAVE THESE TWO BIG, UM, NICE PRINTERS WORKING. SO, SO THIS ONE IS FOR THE RECORDS CLERK. UM, THIS IS ONE THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE. THE NEXT ONE IS A BRAND NEW ONE. WE GOT THIS, BOTH OF THESE ARE IN THE BUDGET. JUST SO YOU KNOW, I GOT ALL THIS INFORMATION TO ELENA IN TIME. SO THEY'RE BOTH BEEN BUDGETED INTO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE UNDER COPIER EXPENSES. SO WE ARE NOW JUST EXECUTING THESE. SO WITH THAT JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RENEWAL COPIER LEASE FOR CPI FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CLERKS AT A MONTHLY COST OF $235. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, I'LL SECOND IT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM [3.AC) Discuss/Act on approving a new copier lease with CPI for the County Sheriff Admin. Hallway at a monthly cost of $351; (Commissioner Stacy)] THREE, AC, DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A NEW COPIER LEASE WITH CPI FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF ADMIN HALLWAY AT A MONTHLY COST OF $351. COMMISSIONER STACY, AND WITH THAT JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE NEW COPIER LEASE WITH CPI FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S ADMIN HALLWAY AT A MONTHLY COST OF $351. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACEY SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES PLEASE. IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. OH, EXCUSE ME. BLESS YOU. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES [3.AD) Discuss/Act on Budget Letter, and all related issues; (Commissioner Liechty and Commissioner Stacy)] US TO AGENDA ITEM THREE, A D DISCUSS AN ACT ON BUDGET LETTER AND ALL RELATED ISSUES. COMMISSIONER LICHTY AND STACY, AND EXCUSE MY VOICE. NO BLESS YOU. UM, SO WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS, WE DISCUSSED THIS AS A SUGGESTION THAT WE COMMUNICATE TO OUR RESIDENTS THE BASIS FOR MAKING THE BUDGET AND FOR THE FACT THAT THERE IS A VERY SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE. UM, I APPLAUD, UH, COMMISSIONER STACEY FOR PUTTING UP WITH ALL MY COMMENTS ON HIS FIRST DRAFT OF THE LETTER, BUT, UM, WE HAVE A, I I THINK A VERY ACCURATE AND A VERY WELL STATED LETTER THAT WE WILL SHOULD PUBLISH TO OUR CITIZENS. THAT SAYS WHY THE TAX WEIGHT WENT FROM 25 10 TO 26 20. UM, I THINK IT HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT OUR, THE INCREASE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN MADE JUST AS A RESULT OF THE ROAD BONDS WAS MORE, NOW IT'S CONTAGIOUS, WAS MORE THAN THE INCREASE THAT WE ENDED UP WITH YY YES. AND, AND THAT IS A WORTHY CONVERSATION. AND IT'S HARD, IT'S HARD TO [02:20:01] SUMMARIZE AND NOT DO A FIVE PAGE DOCUMENT THAT SAYS THAT, UH, I MEAN, IT IT IS, IT'S A COMPLEX CONVERSATION. IT'S, AND WE HAD MULTIPLE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DRAFTS WE DID OF THIS. A LOT, BUT A LOT . BUT, UH, I, AGAIN, I THINK IT STATES VERY ACCURATELY AND VERY INFORMATIVELY TO THE PUBLIC, UH, WHY WE DID THAT. AND ALSO SOME OF THE CHANGES WE MADE AND THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TO ADDRESS, LIKE AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, OUR NEARLY $1 MILLION EXPANSION OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, THE INCREASE OF HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS OF OVER A MILLION DOLLARS TO PRESERVE THE, THE FINANCIAL WEALTH, HEALTH OF OUR HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM. UM, THE, AGAIN, THE BONDS AND THE INCREASE IN COST THERE AND THE FACT THAT WE TOOK, UH, $4.6 MILLION FROM OUR, UM, FUND BALANCE IN ORDER TO, UH, REDUCE THE RATES THE TAX RATE WOULD'VE BEEN TO OUR RESIDENTS. HAD WE NOT DONE THAT AND, UH, WE ALL WENT THROUGH A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BUDGET, I WAS VERY PLEASED WHERE WE ENDED UP AS AN, I BELIEVE EVERYONE WAS, AND ESPECIALLY PLEASED THAT WE ENDED UP WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTE. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO EXPLAIN TO OUR RESIDENTS WHY WE DID WHAT WE DID AND THE, THE BASIS FOR IT. SO I AGREE WITH THAT. WE'LL TAKE ANY COMMENTS, BUT THAT'S OUR THOUGHT. I APPRECIATE ANYONE THAT CAN WRITE ME AN, AN, UH, UM, TWO PARAGRAPH LETTER ABOUT ALL THE THINGS YOU WANTED TO CHANGE. THAT SAID, THAT WAS A GREAT LETTER. SO I APPRECIATE . WELL, I, I CAN TELL YOU. SO I, I ATTACKED THIS LETTER FROM I, AND, AND ATTACKS PROBABLY NOT THE MOST APPROPRIATE WORD IS I READ IT. I THOUGHT, WELL, THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO SAY THAT. SO I WENT IN AND, AND STARTED MARKING AND IT'S LIKE WE, IT'S LIKE, WELL, NO, AND, AND, AND THEN WRESTLED WITH THIS FOR A, A COUPLE HOURS OF, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE'S REALLY NOT NOT A BETTER WAY TO SAY IT. IT'S A, IT'S A COMPLEX ALGORITHM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SUMMARIZE AND, AND IT RESISTS BEING SUMMARIZED. BUT I THINK WE'VE DONE AS GOOD OF A JOB AS, AS WE COULD EVER EXPECT OF SUMMARIZING WHAT OUR GOALS WERE AND, AND WHAT TOOLS WE USED TO, TO GET TO WHERE WE FINALLY LANDED. YEAH. SO WHAT WELL, WELL DONE, UH, ALL WHO PARTICIPATED IN THAT. SO, UM, WELL JUDGE WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE BUDGET LETTER AS PRESENTED TO THE COURT. I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STACY, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICK. DEE, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IF YOU REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE? THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA [4) CONSENT AGENDA:] ITEM FOUR, CONSENT AGENDA. UM, JUDGE, BEFORE A MOTION IS MADE, I'D LIKE TO CORRECT ONE THING ON THIS ITEM FOUR B. IT SAYS ON OUR AGENDA, JP TWO MONTHLY REPORT, BUT I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY JP FOUR WERE GOT IT. UM, AND UH, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY SAW, BUT THERE WAS SOME CHANGES MADE TO THE MINUTES, WHICH, UH, I APPRECIATE. THANKS, UH, JENNIFER FOR DOING THAT. UM, BUT THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY COMMENT I HAD. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL ACCEPT, UH, I GUESS WHAT WOULD BE AN AMENDED MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS A FOUR A THROUGH FOUR M WITH A CHANGE TO FOUR B, BEING THAT IT'S REFLECTS THE MONTHLY REPORT OF JP FOUR RATHER THAN JP TWO. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GUANA. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT TAKES US TO [5) PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS/DISPOSITIONS:   Discuss/Act on approving the following property acquisition(s) and disposition(s) of fixed assets(s):] AGENDA ITEM FIVE, PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS POSITIONS. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND DISPOSITIONS. UH, FIVE A THROUGH CI HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. I'LL SECOND IT. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER M**K, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? REGISTER YOUR VOTES PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM [6) NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFER(S):   Request approval of the following non-emergency budget transfer(s):] SIX, NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS, MOTION TO APPROVE NON-EMERGENCY BUDGET TRANSFERS SIX A THROUGH SIX E. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GOANA. I'LL SECOND IT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT [7) APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLL(S):] TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM SEVEN, APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS, BILLS, CLAIMS, AND PAYROLLS. THANK YOU, JUDGE. I'M SUBMITTING TO THE COURT THE PAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $188,665 AND 20 CENTS AND I ASK FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL. SO, OKAY, GO AHEAD. GOT [02:25:01] A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALANA SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY. YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. I'M ALSO SUBMITTING TO YOU THE UNPAID CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $11,492,403 AND 95 CENTS. THE REASON THIS IS A RATHER LARGE AMOUNT IS THAT THERE ARE, UM, THE TRIP 21 PAYMENT FOR THE CITY OF FATE THAT WAS A $10 MILLION PAYMENT FOR YOUR BEN PAYNE ROAD. INCLUDED IN THIS, I MOVE TO APPROVE, GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STA SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. HANG ON. TECHNOLOGY IS SLOWER THAN PAPER. OKAY. I'M SUBMITTING TO YOU THE PAYROLL REPORT FOR THE PAY PERIOD ENDING AUGUST 29TH, 2026 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,211,246 AND 26 CENTS. AND I ASKED FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL. SO JUST A A NOTE, OUR OUR AGENDA SAYS PAY PERIOD ENDING AUGUST 15TH, 2026. THIS IS PAY PERIOD ENDING AUGUST 29TH, PAY PERIOD, AUGUST 29TH, 2026, PLEASE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVED. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER M**K SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LICHTY, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW, PLEASE THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THAT TAKES [8) EXECUTIVE SESSION:] US TO AGENDA ITEM EIGHT, EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ROCK WALL COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THE MEETING TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS LISTED ON THE AGENDA IN THIS ITEM IN THE ORDER DEEMED APPROPRIATE AS AUTHORIZED BY CHAPTER 5 51 OPEN MEETING SUBCHAPTER D TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF ITS ATTORNEY. ON THOSE ITEMS, WE WILL BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION AND ATTORNEY CLIENT INFORMATION, DISCUSSION OF DR. HORTON LITIGATION AND MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS, ROCKWALL COUNTY MUD NUMBER 10, SETTLEMENT DISCUSSION. IRS AUDIT LETTER AND REAL PROPERTY LEASE WILL ALSO BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON EIGHT A DISCUSS IRS AUDIT LETTER AND AT 1141 WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. [9) RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION:] ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AT 1235, WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.0415. NOPE, SCRATCH THAT. PURSUANT TO OPEN MEETINGS ACT, CHAPTER 5 5 1, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0 0 1 COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL RECONVENE AND OPEN SESSION TO TAKE ANY ACTION NECESSARY ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND I CAN TELL YOU NO ACTION WAS TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, SIGN THE POWER OF ATTORNEY AND DECLARATION OF REPRESENTATION TO ALLOW BRIAN TEEF WITH BRACEWELL LLP TO REPRESENT US IN THE REGARDS TO OUR IS IRS AUDIT. SECOND. SO WE HAVE MY MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALANA, IF YOU'LL REGISTER YOUR VOTES NOW PLEASE. THAT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO AND THEN [10)  COMMISSIONERS COURT REPORTS:] THAT TAKES US TO THE COMMISSIONER COURT REPORTS. LET'S GO IN REVERSE ORDER. LET'S START DOWN. COMMISSIONER PRECINCT FOUR. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TODAY, JUDGE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER LTI. I SECOND THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING EITHER. COMMISSIONER M**K. WELL, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL, UM, EVENT THIS PAST SUNDAY. I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER TI I THINK YOU WROTE IN IT, UM, FOR THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY AND, AND, UM, THE, THE OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER PRECINCT ONE. I'D LIKE TO WISH, UH, KIM SWEET A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TODAY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY KIM. SWEET. AND I WILL SAY THE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS TOURING THE WOMEN IN NEED SHELTER IN GREENVILLE THIS AFTERNOON, SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. THEY PROVIDE SERVICES FOR HUNT AND ROCKWALL COUNTY AND I BELIEVE RAINS COUNTY. SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT TOUR TODAY. SO AT 1237 WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.