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THROUGH THE KITCHEN, BUT WHAT COMES OUT TASTES PRETTY GOOD. IT WAS A LONG 635 AND. ALL
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RIGHT, EVERYONE, I WILL CALL THE CONSORTIUM TO ORDER. IT IS 530. WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO SIGNED[GUEST SPEAKERS:]
UP FOR THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. SO MISS BRIANNA TIFFY, IF YOU WANT TO COME JUST UP HERE, WE HAVE A MICROPHONE ARRAY. SO THERE'S NOT ACTUAL MICROPHONES. AND THAT'LL GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND EVERYONE ELSE THAT WHAT YOU SAY OUT IN THE GALLERY MAY BE RECORDED. SO ALL RIGHT, THERE'S PERFECT FACING PERFECT. LIKE I SAY, WE'RE CONSORTIUM. SO WE'RE MORE OF AN INFORMAL INFORMAL GATHERING. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BRIAN AND I SERVE AS A ROYSE CITY COUNCILWOMAN. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO BRING FORWARD SERIOUS CONCERNS FROM OUR LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, SPECIFICALLY OUR FIREFIGHTERS, REGARDING ONGOING CONSTRUCTION ON INTERSTATE 30. THEIR CONCERN IS STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT THE CONSEQUENCES COULD BE SIGNIFICANT. EMERGENCY ACCESS TO WESTBOUND 930 IS BECOMING A SERIOUS CHALLENGE WITH THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION CONFIGURATION AND LIMITED ENTRANCE AND EXIT RAMPS, OUR FIRE TRUCKS ARE FACING DIFFICULTIES GETTING ONTO THE INTERSTATE, MANEUVERING THROUGH CONSTRUCTION ZONES AND CONGESTED TRAFFIC. THERE ARE NOT SIMPLE INCONVENIENCES. THESE ARE OBSTACLES THAT CAN COST VALUABLE TIME WHEN SOMEONE'S LIFE MAY BE ON THE LINE. WHEN SOMEONE CALLS 911, THEY'RE COUNTING ON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET THERE. OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE READY TO ANSWER THAT CALL, BUT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THE ROADS AND CONSTRUCTION LAYOUTS DO NOT UNNECESSARILY STAND IN THEIR WAY. SO MY QUESTION IS, THEN WHAT IS TECH STOCK GOING TO DO TO IMPROVE EMERGENCY ACCESS TO WEST ON I-30? CAN ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINTS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION BE CONSIDERED TO ENSURE FIRE APPARATUS CAN EACH EMERGENCY SAFELY, BE SAFELY AND EFFICIENTLY? MY SECOND CONCERN IS THE LACK OF DESIGNATED AREAS FOR MOTORISTS TO PULL OFF AND YIELD TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES. WHEN TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP AND A FIRE TRUCK IS APPROACHING, DRIVERS NEED SOMEWHERE SAFE TO GO WELL. TXDOT EVALUATE ADDING EMERGENCY PULL OFF AREAS OR OTHER DESIGNATED SPACES THAT ALLOW MOTORISTS TO MOVE ASIDE AND GIVE EMERGENCY VEHICLES A CLEAR PATH. I ALSO WANT TO RAISE ANOTHER CONCERN OUR FIREFIGHTERS HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD WHEN MOTORISTS BECOME STRANDED ON I-30 BECAUSE OF A FLAT TIRE RUNNING OUT OF GAS OR ANOTHER VEHICLE ISSUE, OUR FIRE APPARATUS MAY HAVE TO REMAIN ON SCENE TO SHIELD THE MOTORS FROM PASSING TRAFFIC. THAT MEANS A FIRE TRUCK AND ITS CREW COULD BE COMMITTED TO PROTECTING STRANDED VEHICLE INSTEAD OF REMAINING AVAILABLE FOR ANOTHER EMERGENCY. CAN TEXDOT CONSIDER KEEPING A TRUCK OR ANOTHER APPROPRIATE TRUCK MOUNTED VEHICLE AVAILABLE IN THAT AREA TO PROTECT STRANDED MOTORISTS WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION ZONE? COULD THIS HELP REDUCE THE NEED FOR FIRE APPARATUS TO SERVE AS THE PROTECTED VEHICLE FOR ROUTINE ROADSIDE INCIDENCES, INCLUDING OUR FIREFIGHTERS, REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR MORE URGENT EMERGENCIES? OUR FIREFIGHTERS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN PROTECTING A STRANDED MOTORISTS REMAINING AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO SOMEONE EXPERIENCING A LIFE THREATENING EMERGENCY. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT OPTIONS TXDOT CAN OFFER TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS. JUST AS IMPORTANTLY, WHAT CAN BE DONE NOW? WE CANNOT SIMPLY ACCEPT THAT THESE CHALLENGES ARE PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION, AND WE WAIT UNTIL THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE TO ADDRESS THEM. PUBLIC SAFETY CANNOT BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL CONSTRUCTION IS FINISHED. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IMMEDIATE SOLUTIONS CAN BE EXPLORED, WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT THEM, AND HOW OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS CAN WORK DIRECTLY WITH TXDOT AND THE PROJECT ENGINEERS TO MOVE FORWARD. WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS CONSTRUCTION IS INTENDED TO IMPROVE OUR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE APPRECIATE THE WORK INVOLVED. WE REALLY DO. BUT IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR ROADS MUST NOT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF EMERGENCY ACCESS. OUR FIREFIGHTERS NEED A SAFE WAY TO REACH THE PEOPLE WHO DEPEND ON THEM, EVEN WHILE CONSTRUCTION IS UNDERWAY. I'M ASKING TEXDOT TO GIVE THESE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY. WORK DIRECTLY WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IDENTIFY ACTUAL SOLUTIONS, NOT JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT A PROBLEM. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT RAMPS, BARRIERS, OR TRAFFIC PATTERNS. IT'S ABOUT WHETHER FIREFIGHTERS CAN GET TO SOMEONE WHO NEEDS HELP WITHIN EVERY SECOND COUNTS, AND WHETHER THE FIREFIGHTER CAN REMAIN AVAILABLE WHEN THE NEXT CALL FOR HELP COMES IN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BRIANNA, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CONSORTIUM? SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL MOVE ON.[DISCUSSION:]
SO WE HAVE SOME ARTICLES OF FORMATION AND SOME BYLAWS THAT WERE SENT OUT TO EVERYBODY. I'M GOING TO SAVE THAT TO AFTER THE TRAFFIC UPDATE, BECAUSE I'D LIKE EVERYBODY'S INPUT. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T EXPECT THESE TO BE APPROVED. THIS IS JUST THE OPENING. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THESE FOR YEARS. COMMISSIONER LICHT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THEM SINCE HE'S BEEN COMMISSIONER. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THEM TOGETHER FOR MONTHS. SO A FEW MORE MONTHS WILL NOT KILL US. SO, MR. HUMPHRIES, TAKE IT AWAY WITH OUR ROAD PROJECT UPDATE. ALL[00:05:08]
RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I JUST LIKE TO OPEN AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE COURT, THE CITY'S TEXDOT AND OUR INDUSTRY PARTNERS FOR THE OPENNESS AND COLLABORATION AS WE WORK THROUGH THE TRANSITION. THE REPORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE INCLUDES UPDATES. OVER THE LAST MONTH, I WILL HIT ON THE PROGRESS AND UPCOMING DELIVERABLES. AS A SIDE NOTE, JUST WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT TXDOT JUST COMPLETED THEIR SANDBOX MEETINGS IN SEPTEMBER.SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME NEW DATES ON THE REPORT. THOSE SANDBOX MEETINGS ARE HELD QUARTERLY. I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE AWARE OF THAT. ALL RIGHT, JUMPING INTO THE REPORT, WE'LL START WITH FM 552. WE NOW HAVE TWO CCJS FOR THAT TO SPLIT THAT PROJECT UP 95%, 95%. PLANS WERE SUBMITTED FOR THE WEST PROJECT, AND WE ANTICIPATE 100% PLANS IN THE FALL OF 2027. WE'LL JUMP OVER TO FM 549. THE NARRATIVE IS ATTACHED THERE. JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I WAS OUT THERE ON MONDAY. WORK IS PROGRESSING ON THE UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE AND SUBGRADE PREPARATION. MESSAGE BOARDS ARE DEPLOYED NOTIFYING TRAFFIC OF ANY LANE CLOSURES. THE COUNTY RECENTLY PROVIDED SOME UPDATES ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE, HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE ALIGNMENT CHANGES, AND ESPECIALLY AT THAT INTERSECTION OF 1139. ON SH 205, THE GOLIAD REIMAGINING PROJECT, THE CITY OF ROCKWALL IS WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT ON CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS. THEY WILL BE LOOKING TO FINALIZE THE SCHEDULE HERE AND SOCIALIZE THAT PROGRESS.
FOR SH FIVE FOR SH 205 MIDDLE. WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT ONE NEXT MONTH. THE COMMISSIONERS, TXDOT, RTC AND THE CITY OF ROCKWALL HAVE HELD SOME CONSTRUCTIVE MEETINGS HERE IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, AND THOSE WILL CONTINUE OVER THE NEXT MONTH ON PACKAGING OF THE PROJECTS AND FUNDING. SH 205 SOUTH IS STILL SCHEDULED FOR LETTING IN JUNE OF 2027. FOR FM 35. WE JUST MET YESTERDAY WITH EXCUSE ME. SORRY, CHAD, WE GOT A WE GOT A GENTLEMAN THAT WANTS TO TALK ABOUT ME. I'M ON THE OTHER END OF THE COUNTY DOWN HERE. JUST ON 205 SOUTH. I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF IT, CHAD. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND I KNOW MCLENDON CHISHOLM IS AWARE OF IT. BUT FOR EVERYBODY AROUND THE TABLE, WE'RE HAVING SOME REAL ISSUES WITH TXDOT ON SOME PLANNED MEDIAN BREAKS FOR EXISTING USERS THERE AND EXISTING RESIDENTS AND FACILITIES DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY'VE ASKED CITY OF MCLENNAN TO MAKE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTION. THEY'VE ASKED THE COUNTY TO MAKE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTION. WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM. IT WAS GOING TO BE TOMORROW, BUT THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY THAT AROSE AND COULDN'T DO IT. SO WE'RE MEETING NEXT WEEK. BUT JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S AN ISSUE THAT'S REALLY GOING TO AFFECT IF THOSE MEDIANS AREN'T AREN'T BUILT, THOSE MEDIAN BREAKS, I'M SORRY, AREN'T BUILT. IT WILL HAVE A HUGE TRAFFIC IMPACT UPON EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTY AND ALL THE WAY. 205, AS YOU KNOW, RUNS ALL THE WAY AND IT'LL BE A BIG ISSUE AND SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO FACE IN THE FUTURE. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT FM 35 NEXT. WE MET YESTERDAY AND HAD SOME REALLY PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS AROUND THE PRE-FINAL SCHEMATIC THAT'S ANTICIPATED IN DECEMBER. FOR FM 1141. WE SPOKE WITH TXDOT THIS WEEK, AND WE'LL BEGIN MORE REGULAR CADENCE ON PROGRESS MEETINGS. NOW THAT SOME OF THE INITIAL SURVEY WORK HAS TAKEN PLACE AND THE PROJECT CONSTRAINTS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. SO WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT. FOR FM 548 AND PRECINCT THREE. YOU'LL SEE THERE SOME OF THE UPDATED DATES FOR THE UTILITY RELOCATION STATUS AND THEN FOR FM 548 AND PRECINCT FOUR TXDOT. THIS PROJECT IS NOW ENVIRONMENTALLY CLEARED AS OF SEPTEMBER 18TH.
I'LL JUMP AHEAD TO CRENSHAW. THE CONTRACTOR IS MAKING SOME REAL PROGRESS. ALL DRILLED SHAFTS FOR THE BRIDGE HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED, COLUMN CONSTRUCTION HAS BEGUN, AND THE CONSULTANT IS WORKING ON THE CONTRACTOR ON THE SCHEDULE FOR GIRDER ERECTION OVER THAT. IT'S A VERY LARGE FLOODPLAIN. IT'S LIKE 1500FT THERE. SO AND THEN WE'LL GET OUT THERE HERE HOPEFULLY VERY SOON AND GET SOME AERIAL FOOTAGE, AERIAL FOOTAGE OF THE PROGRESS, AND WE CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. OUTER LOOP PHASE ONE. WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ALL SET FOR OCTOBER 29TH. HOPE TO SEE MANY OF YOU IN ATTENDANCE. AND THEN HORIZON ROAD FROM 30 TO RIDGE ROAD. WE'LL BE SITTING DOWN WITH THE CITY OF ROCKWALL HERE SOON TO REVIEW THE PRELIMINARY SCHEMATIC. THE TEAM IS WORKING ON MATERIALS FOR A PUBLIC MEETING ON DECEMBER 3RD.
NOTICES WILL BE GOING OUT ON THAT HERE VERY SOON. WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF ROCKWALL ON THOSE DETAILS. VILLAGE DRIVE ALSO WORKING WITH THE CITY OF ROCKWALL ON THE
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COORDINATION AND ESTABLISHING UPCOMING PROGRESS MEETINGS AND GOING FORWARD, RAILROAD COORDINATION WILL BE CRITICAL TO KEEP THAT PROJECT ON SCHEDULE. FOR FM 550 THE CONSULTANT IS WORKING THROUGH TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ANALYSIS. WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED IN TWO WEEKS THERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SCHEMATIC PROGRESS. AND THEN FOR FM 550 AT 205. THAT'S THAT RIGHT TURN. LANE COORDINATION IS ONGOING TO INCLUDE THAT TURN LANE AS PART OF SH 205 SOUTH PROJECT, WHICH I SAID WILL BE IN JUNE OF 2027. FM 549 FROM 740 TO 205. THE TRAFFIC DATA COLLECTION IS BEING PROCESSED AND THE REPORTS ARE BEING DEVELOPED. THE CONSULTANT IS COMPLETING RIGHT OF WAY SURVEY, AND WE'LL BEGIN TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE ALIGNMENTS AND THE RIGHT OF WAY IMPACTS NEXT. FOR FM 1777, THE CONNECTOR ROAD THE CONSULTANT HAS PROVIDED HAS BEEN PROVIDED WITH COMMENTS ON THE CONCEPT ALTERNATIVES. ROYSE CITY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THE TEAM IS ALSO WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE RAILROAD COORDINATION AND EXECUTING THE NECESSARY AGREEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO GET IN PLACE. AND THEN FOR FM 740 AND PRECINCT THREE, THE CONSULTANT PROVIDED CONCEPTUAL ALIGNMENTS. THIS WEEK, WE ARE WORKING WITH TXDOT AND THE CITY OF HEATH ON THE REVIEW OF THOSE CONCEPTS. FOR FM 2453. THE COUNTY AND TEXDOT CONTINUE REVIEW OF RFQ SUBMISSIONS, HOPING TO COMPLETE THOSE EVALUATIONS HERE VERY SOON. TO PRESENT TO THE COURT. AND THEN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE.THE STEERING COMMITTEE MET ON SEPTEMBER 29TH TO REVIEW CHAPTERS ONE THROUGH THREE. THE CONSULTANT IS WORKING ON THE REMAINING CHAPTERS TO SUBMIT HERE. EARLY NOVEMBER TIME FRAME.
THE STEERING COMMITTEE WILL RECONVENE ON NOVEMBER 17TH TO REVIEW THAT FULL DRAFT. MOVING OVER TO MISS MAY DRIVE EXTENSION CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES CONTINUE WITH UNDERGROUND SEWER AND WATER LANE CONSTRUCT WATERLINE CONSTRUCTION. THE CITY OF FATE CONTINUES COORDINATION WITH THE CONSULTANT AND THAT CONTRACTOR. AND THEN EDWARDS ROAD AND PRECINCT THREE. THE CONSULTANT HAS COMPLETED INITIAL SURVEY FIELDWORK. CONCEPTUAL DESIGN IS UNDERWAY. MACLENNAN CHISHOLM HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT COORDINATION. MAN, WE GOT A LOT OF STUFF IN PRECINCT THREE. YEAH, I KNOW, IT'S GOOD, ISN'T IT? THAT'S GOOD. YEAH, I LIKE THAT. THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT ON IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. COMMISSIONER. WORKS HARD. HEY, BY THE WAY. AND THEN FOR POULTRY ROAD AND COUNTRY ROADS. COUNTY ROADS. THE COUNTY AND TEXDOT CONTINUE REVIEW OF THOSE RFQ SUBMISSIONS. AND LIKE I SAID, HOPEFULLY WE'LL COMPLETE THOSE SOON. BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT TO THE COURT. AND THEN THAT LEAVES I-30. THOSE NARRATIVES ARE ATTACHED. I KNOW NICK IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN VERY EXCITED TO SEE THE PROGRESS, ESPECIALLY AT HORIZON ROAD, AND HE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE UPCOMING TRAFFIC PATTERN CHANGES AT JOHN KING. SO WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR QUESTIONS FOR CHAD? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. NICK, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHAD. YEAH. CHAD. I HAD SOMEBODY JUST ON FUTURE REPORTING. SOMEONE HAS ASKED THAT WE COULD MAYBE HAVE SLIDES FOR PEOPLE TO SEE ON SOME OF THESE. SO IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON DOING? YES. I DON'T WANT TO JUMP THE GUN HERE. I JUST I KNOW THAT YOU WERE PLANNING ON TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE UPCOMING CHANGES, BUT YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO A TO A MORE PRESENTATION FORMAT HERE IN THE UPCOMING. THAT'D BE AWESOME. THANKS. THANKS, CHAD. TAKE IT AWAY. NICK. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. SO SLIDE ON KIND OF WHAT I'VE WENT THROUGH IS I WENT THROUGH AND KIND OF COLOR CODED THE ENTIRE 30 CORRIDOR AND WHAT QUARTER. EACH SEGMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED IN. SO I WANT TO PREFACE THIS. THIS IS BASED ON THE CONTRACTOR'S SCHEDULE. AND THEIR SCHEDULES ARE ABLE TO FLUCTUATE BACK AND FORTH DEPENDING ON FLOAT ON SPECIFIC ITEMS. SO SOME OF THESE DATES CAN MOVE FORWARD, CAN MOVE BACK. EVERY CONTRACT SCHEDULE HAS ONE CRITICAL PATH. AND THAT'S REALLY THE DRIVING THING OF THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. SO SPECIFICALLY ON THE FIRST ONE THAT RUNS FROM 0 TO 205, THAT IS THE WESTBOUND BRIDGE OVER THE LAKE. THAT'S THE CONTROLLING PATH OF THE JOB.
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THAT'S THE LAST ITEM THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE SEGMENT OF THAT PROJECT. IF I READ THAT RIGHT.NICK. SO THE GREEN MEANS THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE IN THE FOURTH QUARTER NEXT YEAR. YES, SIR.
OKAY. SO A YEAR AWAY FROM THAT. YES, SIR. SO THANK YOU. THE QUARTERS ARE COLOR CODED ON THE TOP LEFT CORNER AND CORRESPOND TO THE SPECIFIC SECTION OF WHERE THEY ARE. SO I'M SORRY.
GO AHEAD. KEEP INTERRUPTING. ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE THIS TO US SO I CAN GIVE IT TO THE EMAIL? YEAH, I CAN PROVIDE IT TO YOU. SO KIND OF WALKING THROUGH IT. SO THE EASTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD BRIDGE IS SCHEDULED TO OPEN IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 27. SO IT'S BEING OPT THEY'RE KIND OF HOLD OFF ON THAT UNTIL THE RAMP SITUATION NEAR HORIZON. SO THE RAMP SCENARIO WHERE THE EXIT RAMP AND THE FUTURE ON RAMP ARE AT HORIZON, THAT'S EXPECTED IN QUARTER TWO OF 27. SO WE'RE KIND OF THAT'S FOR THAT COMPLETION OF THAT FULL PURPLE AREA. NOW THESE ARE COLOR CODED IN FULL AREAS. AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A LANE OR TWO OPEN WITHIN THESE SEGMENTS. KIND OF LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE FRONTAGE ROADS, HOW THE RIGHT LANE OF FRONTAGE ROAD IS COMPLETE, BUT NOT THE LEFT LANE, THE PURPLE IS SAYING THAT'S FULLY COMPLETED. SO THE RAMP SCENARIO IN NEAR HORIZON WOULD BE FULLY COMPLETE.
QUARTER TWO OF 27. HOWEVER, THE ON RAMP WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO OPEN AT THE SAME TIME AS EASTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE WHOLE SCHEMATIC IS GOING TO BE LAID OUT. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I JUST KIND OF START WALKING THROUGH THE WHOLE THING? I GO AHEAD, DENNIS. WELL, THE RISING ROAD TURNAROUND TURNABOUT. I GUESS THAT'S GOING TO BE FIRST QUARTER 27. SO THE BRIDGE IS THE HORIZON. THE BRIDGE IS PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING DONE, BUT LIKE THE LOOP TO GO FROM EASTBOUND BACK TO WESTBOUND, IT CAN NEVER BE OPENED UNTIL THE WESTBOUND BRIDGE IS DONE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO LEAD YOU STRAIGHT ONTO THE WESTBOUND BRIDGE, AND IT WON'T ONCE IF YOU'RE COMING EASTBOUND ON THE SERVICE ROAD THERE AS IT EXISTS NOW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND ON I-30, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU RIGHT BACK TO THAT DRIVE ON 30. THAT'S THERE NOW. SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN. WELL, AROUND THE BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE COMPLETE OVER HORIZON, RIGHT? YES, SIR, BUT I DON'T. OR IS IT OR IS PEOPLE GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUST AVOID THE LIGHT AND MAKE YOU AND GO BACK ON 30. NO. NO SIR.
BECAUSE THAT THAT YOU WOULD TIE INTO THE FRONTAGE ROAD PART THAT LEADS STRAIGHT ONTO THE BRIDGE. ONCE THAT BRIDGE IS FINISHED, IS THE TRAFFIC GOING TO GO EXACTLY LIKE IT DOES NOW? NO, BECAUSE THE THE FUTURE ON RAMP IS IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE THE. THERE'S A BLUE. IT GOES UNDER THE BRIDGE. THAT'S THE NEW ON RAMP. SO THE ON RAMP YOU WOULD ACTUALLY GET FROM 740, GET ON AND GET ONTO THE MAIN LANES. SO A RISE IS GOING TO TIE INTO THE BLUE AREA. SO SO THE WAY, THE WAY. SO HORIZON CURRENTLY WOULD TURN RIGHT OR RIGHT OR LEFT TO GET ONTO THE CURRENT ON RAMP AND GO DOWN AND GET ON TO 30. OKAY. SO AS WE BUILD THAT, THAT EVENTUALLY HAS TO GO AWAY FOR US TO BUILD THE WESTBOUND BRIDGE. SO WE END UP BUILDING THE LIGHT BLUE AREA FROM THE WESTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD ONTO 30, WHICH IS WHERE YOU WOULD GET FROM BETWEEN 740.
AND HORIZON IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET ON TO 30 FROM NOW ON. OKAY, SO EVERYBODY COMING SOUTH FROM HORIZON VILLAGE WILL GO THROUGH ACROSS THE BRIDGE, TURN LEFT. DO YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 740? YEAH, THEY'LL, THEY'LL GO HIT THE YOU AT 740 AND THEN GET ON TO 30. BECAUSE ONCE WE BUILD THE WESTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD, THE FUTURE HORIZON TRAFFIC THAT TURNS RIGHT ONTO THE FRONTAGE ROAD THEY'RE ON RAMP WILL BE ALL THE WAY DOWN NEAR DOW ROCK. SO THEY'LL RUN THE FRONTAGE ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN AND THEN MERGE ONTO 30 NEAR DOW ROCK. I WANT YOUR MOBILE NUMBER BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE START CALLING, YOU GO BACK TO 740. I'M GOING TO TELL THEM TO CALL YOU. THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. AND THAT'LL STOP THE PEOPLE SNEAKING JOLLA COMING UP TRYING TO STOP THAT. BUT IT'S REALLY CONGESTED AT 745 30 INTERCHANGE. THAT'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE. YES. YES, SIR. COMMISSIONER HAS A QUESTION AS LONG AS WE'RE
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TALKING ABOUT THIS. SO MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD. SO LIKE SOMEBODY COMING FROM HORIZON VILLAGE TO 30, IF THEY WANT TO GO WESTBOUND, THEY'LL GET ON THAT FRONTAGE ROAD AND THEY'LL ENTER THERE BY DOW ROCK IS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY GET ON THE IN THE FINAL CONFIGURATION. YES. YEAH.OKAY. BUT FOR NOW, THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT OF LAKESIDE VILLAGE, GO ACROSS HORIZON, TAKE A LEFT DOWN TO 740 AND MAKE A U AND COME BACK. SO YEAH, IF I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU JUST SAID. YES SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE THAT'S GOING TO BE HORRIBLE. YES, SIR. BECAUSE YOU GOT PEOPLE FROM ROCKWALL GETTING ON RIGHT THERE.
YOU GOT EVERYBODY FROM KEITH GETTING ON RIGHT THERE. SO. SO EVERYBODY FROM HEATH'S GOT TO GO DOWN TO 740. SO YOU CAN'T GET WESTBOUND COMING OFF HORIZON. THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING. IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. YES. ONCE. ONCE WE NEED TO BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TEAR OFF THE THE CURRENT ON RAMP TO BUILD ALL THAT STUFF RIGHT THERE. SO IT'S THE ON RAMP HAS TO MOVE.
EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE RISKS OR. SEVEN. YES, SIR. SO TO DO IT, HOW LONG IS THAT GOING TO BE LIKE THAT ROUGHLY. NO I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO NEXT YEAR IT'S GOING TO BE THAT PRETTY MUCH THERE UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR. OH WELL. YEAH. OKAY. WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT. NOW I'M GETTING A BETTER PICTURE OF THIS. SO THE FOLKS COMING FROM HEATH WERE THEY NORMALLY TURN ON HORIZON. WHEN THEY GET TO THAT INTERSECTION, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TURN RIGHT, GO TO 740 AND DO A LOOP BACK. YES, SIR. IS THERE SOME WAY WE CAN PUT SIGNAGE UP OR SOMETHING TO LET THEM KNOW THAT. YEAH. BEFORE WE DO THE SWITCH, WE'LL DO MESSAGE BOARDS AND WE'LL PUT DETOUR SIGNS ALL. WELL, WHAT I'M THINKING IS, AND I'VE DRIVEN THAT ROAD LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF TIMES, I THANKFULLY DON'T HAVE TO ANYMORE, BUT. WHAT I WOULD THINK I WOULD DO IS I WOULDN'T TURN LEFT ON HORIZON. I WOULD JUST GO TO THAT MAIN INTERSECTION THERE WITH SEVEN, 40 AND 30 AND THEN TURN LEFT THERE, BUT THAT'S ALREADY CONGESTED. WILL THAT HAVE AN ON RAMP RIGHT THERE TO EXPEDITE PEOPLE GETTING ON OR. YEAH, PEOPLE GET ON THERE. THE FUTURE PERMANENT ON RAMP IS BETWEEN 740 AND HORIZON FOR THAT COINCIDE WITH THE BRIDGE BEING SHUT DOWN. YEAH, EXACTLY. ON RAMP FROM BETWEEN 740 AND HORIZON. WELL, THAT ON RAMP. YES. WE HAVE TO BUILD THAT ON RAMP PRIOR TO CLOSING THE THE CURRENT ONE. PERFECT. YES. I MEAN, NOT PERFECT, BUT YEAH, THAT THAT'LL BE A BIG IMPROVEMENT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. TIM. YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE SPOT ON THERE. ANOTHER QUESTION. RELIEVE THAT CONGESTION. SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO DOWN TO 205. BUT WHEN YOU MAKE A U AT 205 COMING BACK WESTBOUND, YOU'VE GOT THAT ENTRANCE RAMP.
NO NONEXISTENT. SO THE ONLY ONE IS ON DOWN CLOSER TO MCDONALD'S RIGHT IN THAT AREA. NOT THAT FAR. IS THERE ANY PLAN TO OPEN UP ANOTHER ENTRANCE RAMP CLOSER TO 205 TO RELIEVE SOME? I HAVE THIS FOR THE WHOLE CORRIDOR, SO WE'LL WALK THROUGH OKAY PAGES AND GO THROUGH IT. ONE QUICK QUESTION ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE. EXIT RAMP AT 740. WILL THAT REMAIN OPEN AS IT IS WHILE PEOPLE ARE TURNING RIGHT TO GET THERE? BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'VE GOT AN EXIT RAMP AND THEN WE'VE GOT PEOPLE TURNING FROM HEATH TO TRY TO GET TO THE LOOP. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE YEAH, I'M GOING TO STAY OPEN. YES, THAT'S THAT'S THE DISASTER POINT RIGHT THERE. YEAH. THAT IS IT'S A DISASTER POINT NOW. WELL IT IS NOW, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE WORSE BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOING YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE DOING THAT U-TURN. YEAH. JEREMIAH CAN YOU TALK TO THE HEATH PEOPLE JUST GO TO 80. YEAH, YEAH. JUST HAVE THEM GO THROUGH 40. YEAH.
ROCKWELL'S CLOSED. JEREMIAH. NICK, IF YOU CONTINUE, PLEASE. YEAH. OKAY. ANY ANY SPECIFIC BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT. BUT I THINK SIGNAGE, I THINK SIGNAGE WILL BE REAL IMPORTANT THERE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT ESSENTIALLY TURNING LEFT ON HORIZON WON'T GET YOU TO 30 ANYMORE. AS I UNDERSTAND IT. YES, BECAUSE THAT'S A HUGE SHIFT IN MENTALITY, 100%. HUGE SHIFT. YEAH, THAT IS A LONG TIME. LIKE HOW LONG? YEAH, A YEAR. IT'S GOT THREE YEAR BEFORE THAT WESTBOUND IS DONE AT LEAST A YEAR ACCORDING TO. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON NEXT.
WELL, WE'RE LIVING THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEY TOOK AWAY A COUPLE. YEAH. OH YEAH.
YEAH. SO THE NEXT SECTION PRETTY MUCH GETS FROM 1040 TO 205. ALL THAT'S STILL PLANNED
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TO BE COMPLETED IN QUARTER TWO OF 27. SO IT HAS SPECIFIC RAMPS. THE EXIT FROM SEVEN EASTBOUND 740 IS STILL EXPECTED TO BE ITS FINAL RAMP IN QUARTER FOUR THIS YEAR. THE ON RAMP JUST PRIOR TO 205. WE'RE EXPECTING THAT IN QUARTER TWO OF 27. AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WESTBOUND OFF RAMP, ONCE YOU TOP OVER, 205 IS EXPECTED IN QUARTER TWO OF 27 AND THE ON RAMP, THE FINAL DOWN PRIOR IS ALSO QUARTER TWO OF 27. SO THIS IS THAT SEGMENT OF 30 ALL PRETTY MUCH IN QUARTER TWO. NEXT YEAR. YEAH. CAN I CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT THE OFF RAMP ON WESTBOUND TWO.WESTBOUND 30. IN THE ACCESS ROAD BETWEEN 205 AND 740. SO TODAY, BECAUSE THE OFF BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TWO LANE ACCESS ROAD AND I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PERMANENTLY THAT WAY, BUT WE HAVE IT. WE HAVE IT BOTTLENECKED DOWN TO ONE LANE. AND SO WE HAVE LESS ACCESS. AND SO RIGHT NOW GETTING DOWN TO ONE LANE, IT'S REALLY BAD GETTING ON. 230 BECAUSE YOU'VE TAKEN ONE OF THE LANES OF THE ACCESS ROAD BECAUSE YOU'VE KIND OF GOT A TEMPORARY OFF RAMP THERE. YES. WHAT'S THE PLAN TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENT THERE AT SOME POINT SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THAT FLOW GOING A LITTLE BIT BETTER? SO AS SOON AS THEY BUILD THAT RAMP THAT'S IN THE TOP RIGHT, THE OFF RAMP. Q 227 NOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROGRESSING THAT ONE QUICKER, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE OPEN SOONER. AND AS SOON AS THAT ONE OPENS THE CURRENT OFF RAMP THAT THEY'RE NOW GOES AWAY. SO THEY CAN GO BUILD THE REMAINDER OF THAT FRONTAGE ROAD THAT THEY GET THAT SECOND LANE BACK. SO WE'RE TALKING MIDDLE, MIDDLE, MIDDLE WAY THROUGH NEXT YEAR.
YES, THAT'S A LONG TIME. AND ESPECIALLY WITH US GOING INTO THE HOLIDAYS AND SALES TAX AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS. I MEAN, IS THERE ANY ADJUSTMENT THAT CAN BE MADE AT ALL TO TO SQUEEZE US A LITTLE MORE ROOM SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THERE? I MEAN, LOOKING AT IT JUST THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ROOM. IT'S ALREADY A TIGHT QUARTER RIGHT THERE. I KNOW, AND YOU'RE ALREADY KIND OF PUSHED UP ALMOST TO THE MAIN LANES AS IS AS WE GO FROM THREE TO 2 TO 1, AND THEN WE GO BACK TO TWO. BUT BUT THE OTHER DAY I'LL TELL YOU LIKE THERE WAS AN 18 WHEELER COMING OFF WHO JUST WANTED TO GET ACROSS. SO HE LITERALLY STOPPED ON THE OFF RAMP, WHICH BACKED UP 30 BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GET ACROSS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC.
SO HE JUST DECIDED HE WAS GOING TO STOP THERE UNTIL HE COULD GET OVER, WHICH DIDN'T DO MUCH GOOD FOR 30, DIDN'T DO MUCH GOOD FOR THE ACCESS ROAD. I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS COULD LOOK AT THAT SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE URGENCY OF THE ROYSE CITY CONVERSATION FROM EARLIER, BUT BUT I THINK THOSE ARE THE CHOKE POINTS THAT JUST COMPLETELY SEND PEOPLE UP AND UPEND PEOPLE. AND FROM US HAVING PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TO WORK AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS, BUT I KNOW FOR ROCKWALL, WHAT'S WHAT'S CONCERNING FOR ME IS MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN GET TO OUR, YOU KNOW, SHOPPING AREAS AND THAT STUFF AS WE MOVE INTO THE HOLIDAY SEASON. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO AVOID OUR CITY. NO I UNDERSTAND YEAH. I'LL LOOKING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. BUT IT'S PRETTY TIGHT RIGHT NOW. SO WILL YOU GIVE THAT DIRECTION BACK TO WHEN YOU HAVE A SOLUTION OR NO SOLUTION? WHO WILL YOU LET WHO WILL BE THE. I CAN REACH OUT TO YOU OR I CAN REACH OUT TO AMY OR REACH OUT TO CHAD. CHAD AS WELL, PLEASE. OKAY. IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD ALSO MAKE SURE AMY GETS INCLUDED IN THAT. I'D APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU.
WE'LL DO. NICK. I BEG YOUR PARDON, BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE COLOR CODES AND WE'RE WE'RE IDENTIFYING YEAR AND QUARTER, OBVIOUSLY A QUARTER IS THREE MONTH CYCLE. SO SO ARE WE LOOKING AT Q2 27 BEING THE START OR THE COMPLETION COMPLETION. SO THAT IS THE ACTUAL COMPLETION IN A THREE MONTH WINDOW. YES. LIKE, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, LIKE THE RIGHT LANE OF, OF THIS PURPLE IS ALREADY BUILT. SO IT'S REALLY THE BUILDING, THE LEFT LANE NOW.
SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE. OKAY. BUT IT'S AT THIS POINT IN Q2, IT SHOULD BE FULLY OPEN ALL LANES AND EVERYTHING. OKAY. SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE SEEING SOME THINGS THAT ARE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, WHICH YOU WERE REFERENCING ON ONE RAMP, ARE YOU REFERENCING WITHIN THAT, THAT, THAT QUARTER, OR ARE YOU REFERENCING THAT MIGHT BE BUMPING INTO A, INTO A DIFFERENT QUARTER BECAUSE IT'S A THREE MONTH WINDOW? YEAH. SO AS MAYOR MCCALLUM'S KIND OF
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REQUESTING DATA POINTS AND EXPECTATIONS, YOU KNOW, HE'S TRYING TO THINK IN TERMS OF ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUNE OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MONTH SOONER? SO THAT'S THE HARD PART ABOUT ALL THESE ALL THESE ACTIVITIES HAVE SO MUCH FLOW TO THEM. SURE. SO THEY CAN FINISH IN JUNE. THEY CAN FINISH IN AUGUST JUST DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH FLOATS INSIDE THAT ACTIVITY. SO IT'S REALLY THE CONTRACTORS RESOURCES TO DRIVE THAT. AND AS LONG AS THEY MEET THEIR SCHEDULE AT THE END OF THE JOB, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DRIVING. AND WHAT DRIVES THAT CONTRACT IS THE CRITICAL PATH WHICH ENDS UP BEING CURRENTLY IS THE BRIDGE. DOESN'T MEAN HE COULDN'T BRING IN MORE RESOURCES AND GO FOCUS ON THE BRIDGE, AND THAT PULLS THE BRIDGE OFF CRITICAL PATH. AND ONE OF THESE OTHER ITEMS END UP TAKING OVER, BUT IT'S RESOURCE BASED AND WHAT HE PROGRESSES AND HOW QUICKLY HE PROGRESSES ON CURRENTLY ON HIS SCHEDULE.THIS IS HOW IT DRIVES. BUT LIKE EVEN HERE, THE EXIT FROM AFTER YOU CROSS OVER 740 TO GO DOWN TO EXIT TO 205 WHILE THE PURPLE IS NOT COMPLETE UNTIL Q2 OF 27, THEY'RE STILL EXPECTING THAT RAMP TO BE Q4 26. SO THE RAMP WOULD BE PORTION WOULD BE OPEN PRIOR TO THIS ALL BEING IN THIS CONFIGURATION, BECAUSE WE GOT TO GET THAT RAMP OPEN, THE TEAR UP, THE TEMPORARY RAMPS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING INTO SO THAT WAS THE END OF THE FIRST JOB. AND SO MOVING INTO THE SECOND JOB AND RUNNING THROUGH THIS ONE. THE FIRST THINGS THAT WILL GET COMPLETED IN THIS SEGMENT IS THE EASTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD AND THE JOHN KING BRIDGES. THERE WILL BE SHIFTS ON THEM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST SEGMENT THAT WILL GET COMPLETED. AND THEN THE MAIN LANES AND THE WESTBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD ARE DRIVEN INTO QUARTER TWO OF 28 TO BE FULLY COMPLETE. SO WE ARE EXPECTING TO OPEN THE JOHN KING ON RAMP IN Q4 OF 26. WHENEVER WE DO THE NEXT SWITCH ON JOHN KING TO PUSH EVERYONE OVER TO THE MIDDLE, AND SO WE COULD TEAR UP THE OUTSIDE OF THE BRIDGE AND REBUILD THE OUTSIDE OF THE BRIDGE. SO WHILE THE BLUE IS Q1 OF 27 FOR THE FULL JOHN KING BRIDGE, WE'RE EXPECTED TO DO THE FIRST SWITCH AROUND IN Q4 OF 26. SO THAT WOULD OPEN THE EASTBOUND ON RAMP AROUND JOHN KING. OKAY. TO LOOK ON THE OTHER SIDE, JOHN KING, WHEN WE DO THAT SWITCH, WE WILL OPEN OR THE OFF RAMP FOR EASTBOUND STAYS OPEN. HOWEVER, THE ON RAMP FOR WESTBOUND CAN'T BE OPENED BECAUSE OF GRADE DIFFERENCES AND HOW THE BRIDGE AND CURVES WORK. SO THAT ONE HAS TO WAIT FOR US TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE REMAINDER OF THE JOHN KING BRIDGE. AND AS SOON AS WE GET THE JOHN KING BRIDGE BUILT, WE'LL OPEN UP THAT RAMP.
THERE'S NO REAL CHANGE ON THE RAMPS AROUND FM 30, 35, 49. THOSE ALWAYS STAY OPEN. WE HAVE COMPLETED THE MEDIAN PORTION OF PAVING OVER THERE AND THEN MOVING INTO THE NEXT LONG RUN OF 30. SO OUR FIRST SEGMENT IS WE'RE BUILDING ALL THAT PURPLE RIGHT NOW. SO TO COMPLETE ALL THAT PURPLE BY Q2 OF 27, AND IT'LL MAKE MORE SENSE AS I WALK THROUGH IT. BUT ONCE WE GET ALL THE PURPLE DONE, THAT'S WHERE ALL THE MAIN LANE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO, WHICH WILL THEN OPEN UP THAT ORANGE SIDE FOR THEM TO FULLY REOPEN AND WORK ON. SO WALKING THROUGH IT. SO MOVING DOWN HERE, IT'S KIND OF THE SAME. GET ALL THE PURPLE DONE BY Q2 OF 27 TO GO ON TO THE EASTBOUND SIDE SO WE CAN WORK ON THE WESTBOUND. SO BEEN PAYING IS A LITTLE DECEIVING IN HOW IT'S PHASED. IT SHOWS Q3 OF 28. NOW, THAT IS NOT TO SAY THE WHOLE THING IS GOING TO BE Q3 28. WE ACTUALLY BUILD THE THE NORTH AND TIE IN TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND THE SOUTH TIE INTO THE FRONTAGE ROAD, BUT WE CAN'T FINISH IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET UNDER 30 UNTIL THE WESTBOUND MAIN LANE GETS UP AND OVER. SO YOU CAN'T ESTABLISH THAT CONNECTION UNDERNEATH. BUT WE WOULD HAVE THE CONNECTIONS TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD PRIOR TO THAT Q3 28. OKAY, SO KIND OF
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THE OFF RAMP RIGHT THERE JUST WEST OF. 551 SO WE HAVE TO GET THAT OFF RAMP BUILT IN Q1 OF 27 BECAUSE WE NEED THAT ONE BUILT PRIOR TO SWITCHING THE TRAFFIC ONTO THE PURPLE, BECAUSE THE CURRENT EXIT RAMP IS INSIDE THAT ORANGE AREA. AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU NEED ANOTHER PLACE FOR THEM TO EXIT. AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD EXIT ON THE BLUE SPOT. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING INTO THE NEXT SECTION. THE KIND OF THE SAME SCENARIO, THE GET GET ALL THE EASTBOUND SIDE PAVEMENT BUILT IN THE PURPLE AND THEN THE WESTBOUND WILL FOLLOW AFTER. SO Q2 OF 27 FOR THE PURPLE OR SORRY. YEAH, Q2 OF 27 FOR PURPLE AND THEN Q2 OF 28 FOR THE YELLOW. AND THE CORRESPONDING RAMPS, FINAL RAMP OPENING DATES ON THE THOSE AREAS. SO THAT TREND CONTINUES ALL THE WAY TO ERBY CAMPBELL. HERE WE ARE. SO FRONTAGE ROADS, RAMPS. SO FROM ERBY CAMPBELL TO TH8, IS THERE ANY WAY Y'ALL ARE GOING TO PUT US IN ON RAMP IN THAT SPACE? I HAVE HEARD YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT. IS THAT POSSIBLE? SO WE'VE RUN INTO A COUPLE ISSUES DESIGNING IT AND WE'VE HAD TO MOVED IT. WE MOVED IT PROBABLY THREE TIMES AND STILL HAVEN'T FOUND A GOOD SPOT. THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDES A SAFE TRANSITION FROM THE FRONTAGE ROAD UP TO THE MAIN LANES. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE HOLDUP ON GETTING THAT. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFE TRANSITIONS NOW. YES, SIR. OKAY. WE YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADDRESSED THE POLICE AND FIRE. OUR CHIEFS BOTH HAVE ADDRESSED IT, AND NOT A WHOLE LOT HAS HAPPENED. WE DID GET AN ON RAMP AT 2642, BUT THEY'RE HAVING TO GO FROM 2642 TO FIGHT TO GET ON OR OFF THE INTERSTATE. SO WE HAD HOPED THAT WE WOULD HAVE ONE BETWEEN ERBY AND FIGHT SOON, SOONER THAN LATER. THERE ARE ONLY OTHER OPTION IS TO GO ON AN OFF RAMP TO GET ON THE INTERSTATE. TO GO ON AND OFF RAMP. GO ON AN OFF RAMP TO GET ON INTERSTATE. YEAH, IF THERE'S A WRECK BETWEEN ERBY AND FATE, YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR CITIZENS.THIS IS YOUR OKAY TO SAY, WELL, THE CITIZENS JUST JUMPED THE MEDIA AND GET ON THE FREEWAY, SO THERE'S ALREADY AN ON RAMP FOR YOU. YOU JUST GOT THOSE. YOU JUST GOT SOME ASPHALT DOWN THERE. BUT NO, WITH OUR POLICE AND FIRE. AND THIS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED SEVERAL TIMES WITH TXDOT THAT WE HAVE NO WAY TO GET ON. SO I THINK OUR FIRE CHIEF ACTUALLY SAID IF WE HAVE TO, WE WILL HAVE TO GO ON AN OFF RAMP, STOP TRAFFIC AND GET ON TO GET TO A WRECK OR WHATEVER IT IS, WHICH IS NOT SAFE, NOT SAFE. AND WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY DONE THAT.
WE'VE SHUT WE SHUT THE FREEWAY DOWN SEVERAL TIMES AND MAKE A U-TURN AND GO BACKWARDS UP AND UP AND ON RAMP. SO SAFE. I MEAN, WE ARE WE ARE LITERALLY LOCKED UP FROM 2642 TO FIGHT. FROM GOING WESTBOUND. 2642 WE DO NOT HAVE AN ON RAMP UNTIL YOU GET TO FAYETTE GOING WEST. SO YOU GO. 2642. 548 HERBIE CAMPBELL ALL THE WAY TO FATE AND HOP ON RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO. 551.
YES, SIR. YEAH, YEAH YEAH, YEAH. IT'S IT'S IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. AND WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH TXDOT AND SEVERAL TIMES OUR POLICE AND FIRE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS AND NOTHING'S HAPPENING. I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT MOVING TRAFFIC.
WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT SAFETY. SAFETY AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, MOVING TRAFFIC IS THEY FIND A WAY MINOR COMPARED TO, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY TRYING TO GET TO AN ACCIDENT. AND WE HAVE ACCIDENTS IN THAT AREA, I DON'T KNOW, THREE DAYS A WEEK, PROBABLY BETWEEN 1565 AND FATE, THERE'S PROBABLY 3 OR 4 A WEEK. AND THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT EASY ONES. THEY'RE FATALITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IT'S BAD, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ACTUALLY EVERY MONTH AND IF IT'S BACKED UP ON
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THE SERVICE ROAD, OUR FIREMEN WILL GET OUT AND RUN A HALF MILE OR HOWEVER FAR THEY HAVE TO GET TO, TO GET TO THE ACCIDENT SCENE, BECAUSE THERE'S NEVER A DAY WHEN THERE'S NOT TRAFFIC ON THAT SERVICE ROAD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET ON. SO THERE'S ALWAYS IT'S ALWAYS THERE. SO IS THERE NOT A POSSIBLE SOLUTION? OF COURSE THERE IS. THERE'S GOT TO BE. NICK CONNOR'S QUESTION. WHAT TAKES HOT TAKES TEN YEARS TO PLAN A ROAD, WHICH WAS NO CONSIDERATION. THE ALTERNATIVES GIVEN. I MEAN, DO WE USE A MAGIC EIGHT BALL? DO WE USE WE SAT DOWN WITH ALL THE CITIES AND WENT THROUGH ALL THIS. ABSOLUTELY NOT. SO WE DON'T HAVE PLANS HAVE DONE THAT. SO YOU DIDN'T LISTEN BECAUSE WE HAVE TROUBLE GETTING FIRST RESPONDERS ON. SO MY QUESTION IS DO WE USE THE MAGIC EIGHT BALL? DO WE ACTUALLY PLAN FOR IT? I MEAN, WE GET NO RESPONSE. IS IT GOING TO TAKE TWO PEOPLE DYING? IS IT GOING TO TAKE SIX PEOPLE DYING? WHAT IS THE TOLERANCE FOR TEXDOT TO DEAL WITH THIS STUFF? LET ME SEE IF I CHAD, WOULD YOU MIND GETTING WITH THEM AND HAVE YOUR TEAM LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP? THAT WOULD BE A SOLUTION. THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT ELSEWHERE.SO. WELL, WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A GOOD RESOURCE. THAT'S GREAT. I LOVE THAT. PERFECT. YEAH. NO, I APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. WE JUST WE JUST GOT TO HAVE SOME RELIEF OUT THERE. I MEAN, THEY'VE ACTUALLY USED THE BUCKET TRUCK TO GET OVER TO THE INTERSTATE. I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW. THEY FOUND EVERY WAY THEY CAN TO GET ON THERE. AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY USED THAT TRUCK TO GET ON THE HIGHWAY. WHAT'S OUR TIME FRAME GOING EASTBOUND TO GET US AN EXIT BETWEEN FATE AND IRBY.
RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO EXIT AT 551 AND GO ALL THE WAY TO IRBY. WHERE'S OUR WHAT'S OUR ACTUALLY, DID YOU PROVIDE LACEY THE ESTIMATED DATES THAT I ASKED YOU FOR LAST MEETING? SCHEDULED OPENINGS ON THIS THING RIGHT HERE. NO, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I ASKED. I'M PROVIDING THE DATES WHEN THESE RAMPS WILL BE OPENED. SO THAT RAMP OPENS IN Q2 OF 27. SO THE ANSWER IS NO. I'M PROVIDING THE DATES ON THIS THING. OKAY. AND ONE MORE QUESTION AND I'LL HUSH. I KNOW THESE ARE SEPARATE AREAS OF JOBS, BUT WHY DON'T WE SEE AN AREA WORKED ON A LOT AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY DISAPPEAR AND DON'T COME BACK FOR MONTHS. SO WHERE DO THEY GO? SO THE CONTRACTOR IS ALLOWED TO STAFF THEIR JOB AS THEY SEE FIT, AND THEY GET TO STAFF IT AND WORK ON THE SEGMENTS THEY NEED TO WORK ON AND NEED TO MEET THEIR END DATE. THAT'S THAT'S HOW THE CONTRACT WORKS. SO IF HE WANTS TO PUT ALL HIS CONTRACTORS ON THE FAR EAST OF THE PROJECT AND FOCUS FULLY OVER THERE, HE'S FREE TO DO THAT IF HE WANTS. PUT THEM ON THE WEST END. FOCUS OVER THERE. HE'S FREE TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S WHY HE CAN MANAGE HIS SCHEDULE. SO TXDOT ACTUALLY HAS NO CONTROL OVER WHAT THEY'RE DOING. WE HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT THE PLANS SAY TO DO SO. THE PLANS DO NOT DICTATE. HE HAS TO FINISH EVERYTHING IN ROYSE CITY BEFORE HE GOES TO WORK IN ROCKWALL, OR HAS TO FINISH EVERYTHING IN ROCKWALL BEFORE HE GOES AND WORKS IN ROYSE CITY. AND THIS PLAN SET. I'LL TAKE THAT START DATE. I DID, YES, I MEAN, THAT'S CONSTRUCTION THERE. WELL, WE JUST GOT AN AREA. WE'VE GOT A MAJOR AREA AT 548 THAT'S BEEN TORN UP FOR MONTHS, AND THERE'S NOBODY THERE. I MEAN, JUST A BUNCH OF STANDING WATER. SO DO WE DO WE NEED TO TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR? HE NEEDS TO TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR. I TALKED TO THE CONTRACTOR. YEAH. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I KNOW WHY YOU DO IT FOR US.
IT'S NOT A GOOD PLAN BECAUSE WE GOT PROBLEMS THAT ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED IN THE CONTRACTORS WHERE HE WANTS TO. YEAH. SO WE'RE ALL FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET ANYTHING DONE. I CAN DO THAT WORKING. WE JUST TELL THEM TO GET IT DONE. BY THIS DATE, THEY HAVE A DUE DATES TO HIT CERTAIN THINGS. AND I MEAN, THIS CONTRACTOR HAS THREE JOBS UP HERE. THAT IS ALL 330 JOBS, THE TWO IN ROCKWALL COUNTY AND THE ONE IN HUNT COUNTY. AND HE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO STAFF ALL OF THEM. I'LL BE HONEST, HE NEEDS MORE STAFF TO HANDLE IT. SO. BUT I CAN'T FORCE HIM TO GO HIRE PEOPLE. I CAN'T FORCE HIM TO GO WORK IN A SPECIFIC AREA. HE HAS TO FOLLOW THE. I HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CONTRACT AND THE SPECS TO GO THROUGH THIS CONTRACT WITH HIM, HIS ELECTED OFFICIALS. I THINK EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE UNDERSTANDS THAT. I THINK I THINK THE ROOT OF THE QUESTION THAT I THINK ALL OF US ARE HEARING, THAT I THINK EVERYBODY IS STILL WAITING ON
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TXDOT. WHEN YOU REPRESENT TXDOT TO TO ADDRESS IS THAT WE HAVE A SAFETY CONCERN. AND AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, RIGHT. WE WE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL KINDS OF THINGS NO DIFFERENT THAN TXDOT HAS TO LOOK AT THE SAME THINGS. BUT I THINK WHAT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY COUNTERPARTS IN ROYSE CITY IS THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, WHAT IS IT? IF THERE IS ANY MITIGATION, WHAT IS THAT MITIGATION? I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS. WHENEVER YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THERE ARE FATALITIES. SO IS THERE ANY MITIGATION THAT CAN BE DONE AS THEY SEE THESE CONCERNS? I MEAN, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A CONSTRUCTION EMERGENCY, ONLY SURE ON RAMP THAT'S HAS SOMETHING IN FRONT OF IT THAT THAT THE FIRST RESPONDERS CAN MOVE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT YOU CHANGE TRAFFIC FLOW, BUT GIVING THEM ACCESS IS, IS, IS A REASONABLE REQUEST. AND SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PROVIDE A SOLUTION. NO, WE LOOK AT PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT. IF ANY OF YOUR FIRE CHIEF POLICE CHIEFS WANT TO COME TALK TO ME AND ACTUALLY MAKE A SUGGESTION OF WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE ONE, FEEL FREE TO SEND THEM TO ME. I MEAN, I REALLY I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. AND I THINK YOU GUYS CONTROL HOW THE ROAD. SO I CONTROL IT. YES. BUT THEY CAN COME AND SUGGEST, HEY, IT WOULD BE REAL GREAT TO MEET IF I GET AN ON RAMP HERE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WE MET WITH ROYSE CITY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE, WHERE THEY WERE TURNING AROUND AND WE EXPLAINED THAT, HEY, WE'RE OPENING THAT RAMP RIGHT THERE AT 551. YES, THEY HAVE TO CUT THROUGH THAT COMMERCIAL TO GET TO THAT RAMP, BUT THAT WAS A LOOP TO HOW THEY COULD GET ON RAMP GOING TO BE A SORT OF A MOVING TARGET, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A TEMP ON RAMP SOMEWHERE, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TEAR THAT UP TO COMPLETE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE IT. SO IT'S REALLY MORE A COORDINATION WITH THE CONTRACTOR, WITH TXDOT TO SAY, WE NEED SOME SORT OF CONTINUOUS ON RAMP ACCESS FOR ROYSE CITY, EVEN IF IT'S NOT FOR THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT CAN MESS THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND ALL THE THINGS YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO DO. BUT, BUT BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S AN ACCOMMODATION BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU DO THIS, THEN THE CONTRACTOR COMES IN BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT WE DON'T CONTROL WHERE HE TURNS DIRT, WHERE HE DOESN'T. THEN HE DECIDES, WELL, I'M GOING TO TURN DIRT ON THIS TEMPORARY ON RAMP, AND NOW WE'VE SCREWED THE WHOLE SYSTEM UP AGAIN. SO I THINK THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE A SOLUTION THAT SAYS, HEY, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, WE NEED SOME SORT OF PUBLIC SAFETY ON RAMP AT ALL TIMES WITHIN THEIR CONTIGUOUS CITY. RIGHT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? NO, NO, IT MAKES SENSE, BUT I CAN'T I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT DECISION AS SILO WHERE THOSE RAMPS GO. RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHERE INPUTS FROM YOUR FIRE CHIEF AND POLICE CHIEF WILL SAY, HEY, RIGHT, RIGHT HERE. I THINK THEY'RE I THINK THEY'RE WILLING AND ABLE TO MEET WHENEVER YOU WANT. RIGHT, JANET? OH, ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE AT THAT MEETING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND OUR POLICE AND FIRE TOLD YOU, THEN WE HAVE NO WAY TO GET ON THE INTERSTATE. YOU KNOW THAT. YES. THE THERE'S SPOTS WHERE WE CAN'T DO IT.THERE'S THERE'S SPOTS THAT WE CAN'T DO IT. THERE'S NOT THERE'S NO WAY TO DO IT IN CERTAIN SPOTS. AND ONLY YOU WOULD KNOW THAT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WE THINK HERE. AND THEY SAID, WE'RE SPOT. AND WE TOLD THEM, NO, THAT WOULDN'T WORK BECAUSE THE GRADE DIFFERENCE IS TOO FAR APART AND WE CANNOT GET A RAMP IN THIS AREA. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE GOT TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT BE MORE ACCURATE.
WHEN THEY WOULD MAKE A SUGGESTION, YOU SHRUG YOUR SHOULDERS AT THEM BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A T SHIRT OUT OF THAT BECAUSE ALL YOU AND YOUR PARTNER DID WAS SHRUG YOUR SHOULDERS. SO WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER WASN'T TRUE. THEY GAVE YOU SUGGESTIONS AND YOU KEPT DOING THIS, I SAW IT, SO LET'S LET'S GIVE HNTB A CHANCE TO GET INVOLVED. AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET A SOLUTION. AND THEY'RE A GOOD, GOOD RESOURCE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYOR MCCLURE SAID, I MEAN, LOOK, WE NEED YOU ALL TO GET THIS DONE. WE WANT TO BE GOOD PARTNERS, BUT WE ALSO NEED SOLUTIONS AND WE NEED THEM IN, YOU KNOW, TIMELINES BECAUSE THESE PUBLIC SAFETY SOLUTIONS ARE IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY, THEY, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL WANT TO EVERY DAY I GET EMAILS AND CALLS ABOUT, ABOUT ROADS AND SNIDE COMMENTS. I GOT ONE FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS UPDATE. LIKE, I WON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH THE BUSSES. WELL, THAT'S A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH THE BUSSES. IT'S A VERY STEALTHY COMPLAINT, VERY STEALTHY COMPLAINT. BUT AGAIN, THE POINT BEING, WE JUST NEED YOUR HELP. SO YEAH. AND IF I CAN WRAP ALL THAT UP, PUT A BOW ON IT. NICK, YOU GUYS ARE DOING A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF GREAT WORK, AND WE WANT A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP AS ELECTED OFFICIALS. KARL DOESN'T, BUT WE DO. THAT'S RIGHT. KARL DOES. SO. SO EVERYBODY DOES WANT A REALLY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP. THE REASON I INSERTED MYSELF WAS TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE EXPLAIN TO US HOW YOU GUYS HANDLE MITIGATION, BECAUSE YOU GUYS DO HAVE A HEART. YOU GUYS ARE HUMANS. YOU GUYS DO LOOK AT THESE REPORTS. YOU DO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES. YOU DO LISTEN. YOU DO HOLD OPEN MEETINGS WITH OTHERS. BUT WHEN WE'RE ON THE RECORD HERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT
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RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO COLLABORATIVELY, IT'D BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY HOW YOU GUYS CAN TRY TO WORK TOGETHER TO MITIGATE. AND THEN WHEN WE GO OFF SITE AND WE COME TO YOUR OFFICES AND WE SIT DOWN AND WE HAVE MEETINGS, IT'S NOT REALLY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, RIGHT? WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO WORKSHOP IT. SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT. YOU GUYS DO HAVE A MITIGATION STRATEGY SOMETIMES WHEN IT'S APPLICABLE AND YOU CAN. AND SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WHENEVER YOU KNOW THAT THOSE CONCERNS ARE ARISING, YOU MIGHT NOT GET SUCH AGGRESSION ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE. IF, IF WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE IN OPEN DIALOG. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY THEY'RE FRUSTRATED.AND I'VE WORKED WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS FOR MANY YEARS, AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE ONLY THEY'RE ONLY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE ANOTHER DEATH. THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE ANOTHER ACCIDENT. AND I KNOW YOU DON'T EITHER. RIGHT? SO IF I CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION INSTEAD OF MY GUYS TELLING YOU WHERE TO PUT A RAMP, WHY DON'T YOU BE PROACTIVE AND WORK WITH MY EXPERT? BECAUSE I GOT ONE THAT'S EXCELLENT. AND SAY, HEY, WE CAN PUT IT HERE INSTEAD OF WAITING ON US TO COME AND TELL YOU OR TO YOU'RE THE EXPERT ON THE ROAD, HOW ABOUT YOU FIGURE OUT WHERE THE RAMPS GO AND GET WITH HER AND THE CONSULTANT IF NEED BE. SO IT SHOULDN'T BE A ONE OR EITHER IT SHOULD BE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER AT THIS POINT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY. SO WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER. DON'T DON'T JUST THROW IT ON ME. DON'T. I SHOULDN'T JUST THROW IT ON YOUR PART. BUT BUT DUDE, I'M NOT TEXDOT YOU ARE. YOU MAY NOT BE THE GUY MAKING THE DECISION, BUT YOU'RE IN FRONT OF US, SO YOU GET IT. SO YOU CAN TAKE BACK OUR FRUSTRATION AND TELL YOUR PEOPLE. MY CUSTOMER, WHICH IS ME, DOESN'T HAVE AN ON RAMP.
THEY'RE GOING TO SHUT THE FREEWAY DOWN AND WE'LL SHUT IT DOWN FOR HOURS IF YOU WANT US TO. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO US. WE'LL DO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SACRIFICE LIVES ANYMORE FOR THAT. SO JUST KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM THE GREEN LIGHT TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITIZENS THAT DRIVE THAT FREEWAY. WELL, I THINK THERE'S A SOLUTION HERE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY. I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP GOING.
YEAH, BUT BUT BUT I THINK THERE'S A SOLUTION HERE. I THINK THAT MAKING SURE THAT IN THE JUDGE MANAGES HIS CONSULTANT, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE CONSULTANT IS ON THIS TO SET EVERYTHING UP THAT THE CITY AND, AND TEX DOT CAN GET TOGETHER AND WE CAN GET THESE SOLUTIONS. AND, AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE OPEN TO THAT. SO, SO. NICK, RIGHT. YOU'RE OPEN TO THAT. YOU'RE OPEN. YEP. FRUSTRATION. DULY NOTED. YEAH. AND, AND WE HAVE A STEP ONE OF A SOLUTION. SO LET'S, LET'S MOVE. ON RAMP EASTBOUND REPORT. YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO KEEP THAT OPEN FOR US. IT WAS GOING TO BE CLOSED. IT'S OPEN TODAY, BUT IT DOES HAVE TO BE REBUILT I UNDERSTAND. YES, YES. YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WINDOW WILL BE. IT HAS TO CLOSE. SO HE'S DONE IT BEFORE. I WANT A T SHIRT. NO, BUT I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU IN OUR NEXT MEETING. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHEN THAT ALTERNATIVE ON RAMP IS. YEAH. AN ALTERNATIVE TO PROVIDE THAT ON. THAT. LET US KNOW. AND WE ADVOCATED FOR THAT RAMP. AND YOU DIDN'T KEEP IT OPEN BECAUSE. GOING THAT DIRECTION. SO. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. YEAH. OKAY. SO KIND OF WALKING FATHER CAMPBELL ONWARDS, KIND OF THE SAME SCENARIO, EXCEPT FOR IT FLIPS TO WHERE THE EASTBOUND IS SECOND AND THE WESTBOUND IS FIRST. SO WE HAVE FLIPPED IT TO WHERE EVERYONE'S. EITHER FULLY ON OLD, OLD EASTBOUND OR ON PARTIAL NEW AND PARTIAL HOLD.
AND WE'RE BUILDING THE WESTBOUND. SO THAT DRIVING IS Q3 27 FOR THE FULL RUN. AS YOU CAN TELL, THEY'RE WORKING IN SECTIONS. SO ONCE WE GET THAT DONE, WE'LL FLIP EVERYONE TO WESTBOUND SIDE TO START WORKING ON THE EASTBOUND SIDE. SO THAT WOULD BE. Q3 OF 27 FOR THE WESTBOUND AND. Q1 OF 28 FOR EASTBOUND. SO. THE THE ON RAMP THAT IS AFTER THE EASTBOUND
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AFTER 35. THAT'S 28 IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MAIN LANES. YES. BUT I'M JUST MAKING SURE.NO, IT'S PURPLE. IT'S IT'S IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PURPLE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. EASTBOUND DIRECTION.
THERE WILL BE A TIME IN WHICH WE HAVE. NO ON RAMPS IN THAT DIRECTION. POTENTIALLY. YES.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WHENEVER WE. BECAUSE JUST BY DESIGN WE'VE GOTTEN OFF. WE HAVE SUCCESSIVE OFFS BY DESIGN. YES. THAT'S THE PRIMARY. ONE. YOU'RE SAYING IF YOU'RE COMING IN FROM.
SO THERE'LL BE SOME. YEAH. I THINK. ONCE THOSE GET TAKEN AWAY. YEAH. WELL THERE'S, THERE'S THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO DO AND WANT TO DO. SO ANYTHING JUST LIKE I REALLY WANT THEM TO GO FINISH THAT, THAT EXIT OFF RAMP THAT FOR 35 THAT SHOWS Q3 27. THEY COULD GO BUILD THAT RIGHT NOW. AND IF THEY GO PUT ALL THEIR CREWS RIGHT THERE AND HAVE THAT OPEN THIS QUARTER.
ALL RIGHT. PRETTY MUCH WRAPS UP THE PROJECT DOING THE SAME SCENARIO. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR NICK? OTHER THAN ANYTHING ELSE FOR US, NICK, IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T IF YOU'RE SEEING MANAGER ENGINEERS HAVEN'T GOT IT ALREADY. THE CIP EMAIL SHOULD HAVE COME OUT TO THEM.
IT'S THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT CALL. SO I THINK IT'S THE END OF NOVEMBER IS WHEN I BELIEVE IT'S DUE. SO HOPEFULLY YOU'RE CITY MANAGERS HAVE GOT IT. WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY. SO HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT CALL IS FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK NEEDS TO HAVE SAFETY IMPROVEMENT. SO IF YOU WANT TO PUT INTERSECTION LIGHTING FOR ILLUMINATION AT AN INTERSECTION. FLASHERS FOR A CURVE AHEAD, STUFF LIKE THAT. OKAY. YOU ALL SUBMIT A LIST OF OR POTENTIAL TURN LANES AT A SPOT. AND THAT'S MAINLY FOR THE CITIES. SO, SO TEXDOT SUBMITS THEIR OWN LIST AND WE SEND IT OUT TO THE CITIES AND COUNTIES FOR THEM TO SUBMIT THEIR OWN.
AND THEN IT GOES DOWN TO AUSTIN. AND AUSTIN DOES OUR SAFETY REVIEW TO SEE WHAT WRECKS AND IF THERE WERE ANY FATALITIES AT THESE LOCATIONS. AND THEY RATE THOSE PROJECTS AND THEY END UP SELECTING THE PROJECTS DOWN IN AUSTIN AND POTENTIALLY BUILDING THEM. SO IT RUNS INTO FUNDING RESTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE TO. YEAH. SO WE'RE GRADED AGAINST. YEAH, YOU'RE GRADED ACROSS THE WHOLE STATE. SO ALL THESE PROJECTS WILL GET SENT DOWN TO AUSTIN. AUSTIN'S GOING TO RANK THEM TOP TO BOTTOM AND SAY, THIS ONE'S THE MOST DRIVING WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO SEND HIGHWAY SAFETY FUNDS TO GO DO THAT ONE. GOT IT. COMMISSIONER. QUESTION. YEAH.
IS THIS WE HAD SOME EMAIL EXCHANGE ABOUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT WAS REQUESTED ON 276 LAST WEEK. AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CIP. IS THAT THE SAME? THIS HAS THE SAME ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. YES. AND DOES THINGS LIKE, I KNOW THERE'S AT LEAST THREE TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN WARRANTED OR IF THEY'VE BEEN WARRANTED, DO WE NOT HAVE TO SUBMIT THOSE ITEMS NOW? IF THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN AUTHORIZED, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT THEM. AND IF THEY'RE NOT AUTHORIZED, IF THE SIGNAL HAS NEVER BEEN AUTHORIZED, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU GO AHEAD AND IT. OKAY. BUT LIKE, IF IT LIKE I JUST THINKING RABBIT RIDGE. SO RABBIT RABBIT RIDGE 550 IS ALREADY IN CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING STUFF WHERE WE WE'VE BEEN TOLD IT'LL COME. WE DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT THAT. YEAH. NO. FOR NEW THINGS. YEAH. THESE THESE ARE THESE ARE NEW THINGS THAT YOU WANT ANY ANY TRAFFIC SIGNAL YOU WANT TO TRY TO LOOK AT AT AN INTERSECTION. ANY ILLUMINATION, ANY ANYTHING YOU THINK WOULD APPLY TO SAFETY. THERE'S A LIST OF WHAT MEETS IN THAT EMAIL THAT YOU'RE. YEAH. PEOPLE HAVE OF WHAT QUALIFIES. YEAH. AND THEY SHOULD JUST GO THROUGH IT AND THEY RANK THEIR PRIORITIES
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AND SUBMITTAL. AND I'VE DONE MINE AND I'VE SUBMITTED MINE OVER TO DISTRICT. IT'S JUST FOR LIKE INTERSECTION PROJECTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CURVE CURVES. LIKE IT'S LIKE FIVE, 550 DOWN THERE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. THEY CAN LOOK AT THE FLASHING CHEVRONS OR FLASHING BEACON SIGNS, STUFF LIKE THAT THROUGH THAT CURVE. OKAY. THANK YOU.THINGS LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I GOT. HEY, LISTEN. THANK YOU. I KNOW SOMETIMES THESE MEETINGS ARE HARD. WHAT IT IS. AND AND PEOPLE FOCUS THEIR FRUSTRATION AT YOU AND THANK YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME LEGITIMATE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON AND WE'LL WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THEM TOGETHER. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE WILL MOVE ON. EVERYBODY, I THINK, WAS EMAILED A COPY OF OUR CERTIFICATE OF FORMATION AND BYLAWS OF THE ROCKWALL COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORTIUM. SINCE I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. THAT'S APPROVED. YEAH. NO, NOT SO MUCH. AGAIN, THIS IS IS A SLOW AND I'M THANKFUL TO HAVE COMMISSIONER LICHTY HERE WHO HAS STARED AT FORMATION DOCUMENTS AND BYLAW DOCUMENTS FOR A LONG TIME, AT LEAST FOR DECADES, FOR DECADES WORTH AND DREW THESE UP. I KNOW I SPOKE WITH MAYOR MCCLURE EARLIER, AND HE HAD A COUPLE TWEAKS THAT HE SUGGESTED THAT I THOUGHT WERE GOOD. AND I TOLD HIM, LOOK, COMMISSIONER LICHTY AND I AREN'T MARRIED TO ANY OF THESE.
WE TRULY HAVE AN OVERARCHING. WE WANT THIS CONSORTIUM TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST A QUICK HISTORY WHEN THIS WAS FORMED AND IT WAS PRIOR TO MY TIME, EVEN ON CITY COUNCIL, WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS IT WAS FORMED AS A CONSORTIUM BECAUSE THAT MEANS WE'RE GET OUT OF TAKING MINUTES, HAVING AN AGENDA. WE CAN JUST COME TALK ABOUT ROADS WHICH, WHICH, WHICH IS FINE. I LOVE DOING THAT. THAT'S KIND OF MY PERSONALITY, BUT I THINK WE'RE GROWING AS A COUNTY. IT NEEDS TO BE MORE FORMAL AND THERE'S THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT ARE INFRASTRUCTURE OTHER THAN ROAD. AND ONE WAY TO DO THAT IS, IS KIND OF HOW WE'VE STRUCTURED IT HERE, WHICH IS TO SEED A BOARD THAT MEETS QUARTERLY. AND UNDERNEATH THAT BOARD ARE COMMITTEES DEDICATED TO EACH INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE'LL BE ONE DEDICATED TO ROADS, TO WATER, TO DRAINAGE, TO, TO, TO WHATEVER THAT CAN MEET AS OFTEN AS THEY NEED TO MEET, BUT REQUIRED TO REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD QUARTERLY. BUT THE CONSORTIUM MEETINGS WILL CONTINUE AS THEY ARE. THIS WILL BE SEPARATE. AND APART FROM THAT, THAT'S HOW IT IN MY MIND, IT WILL WORK. WE WILL CONTINUE TO MEET HERE NOW. I DIDN'T MEAN TO STEAL YOUR THUNDER, COMMISSIONER. NO, NO. AND IT COULD END UP BEING THAT WAY. MAYOR. LET ME JUST. IF EVERYBODY'S GOT PATIENCE. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN IN AN HOUR. I'LL TRY AND BLOW THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK AND TRY AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE THINKING, AND THEN I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
BUT THE SHORT ANSWER IS, IT COULD BE JUST LIKE THIS ON A ROAD COMMITTEE, ONLY IT WOULD BE CALLED INSTEAD OF A CONSORTIUM. BUT LET ME JUST KIND OF WALK THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK AND I'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. SO THIS CAME OUT OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN WAS TO REFINE THE ROLES AND STRUCTURE OF OUR COMMITTEE. IT USED TO BE CALLED THE ROAD CONSORTIUMS, NOW CALLED THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORTIUM AND CREATE, QUOTE, A COUNTY WIDE BODY TO INTEGRATE CITY, COUNTY, STATE AND FEDERAL AND TRANSPORTATION, SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT, WATER CONSERVATION, INFRASTRUCTURE EFFORTS. AND WE'RE TRYING TO WHAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE FOR A BROADER BASE INFRASTRUCTURE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE ON ROADS, WHERE WE ALL WORK TOGETHER AS THE SMALLEST COUNTY IN THE STATE TO TRY TO HAVE UNIFIED SOLUTIONS.
WHAT I'VE DONE HERE, IN CONSULTATION WITH THE JUDGE, IS TO COME, IS TO CREATE A. WE HAVEN'T CREATED IT YET, BUT TO CREATE A STRUCTURE FOR A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION WHICH IS ALLOWED UNDER THE TRANSPORTATION CODE OF ALL THINGS, AND A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION. AND THIS IS JUST FOR 31 OF THE TRANSPORTATION CODE, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT.
IT, MAY BE CREATED TO AID AND ACT ON BEHALF OF ONE OR MORE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO ACCOMPLISH ANY GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSE OF THOSE GOVERNMENTS. SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SET UP A CORPORATION, BECAUSE IT GIVES US A MORE FORMAL STRUCTURE AND ALLOWS US TO CREATE AND MAKE
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THIS WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE. I USED AS A BASIS THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE DONE FOR THE EMERGENCY SERVICES CORPORATION AND MADE THE CHANGES I THOUGHT WERE APPROPRIATE. AS JUDGE SAID, THESE DOCUMENTS ARE NOT FINAL AND I DIDN'T INTEND THEM TO BE, BUT I INTENDED THEM TO GET.LET'S START WITH A STARTING POINT AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE. I'VE BEEN TAKING COMMENTS TO MY DOCUMENTS FOR 45 YEARS, AND SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HURT MY FEELINGS. THE. I SET UP A CORPORATE STRUCTURE. IT WON'T HAVE ANY TAXING AUTHORITY, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GOING OUT AND CREATING A NEW TAX. FUNDING DOESN'T TALK ABOUT FUNDING MUCH BECAUSE FUNDING, FRANKLY, WOULD BE VERY LIMITED. IT WOULD STILL KIND OF FUNCTION UNDER THIS SAME STRUCTURE, KIND OF LIKE THE EMERGENCY SERVICES CORPORATION DOES ONLY. WOULD IT BE WOULD IT BE ABLE NOT NOT CURRENTLY. NO NO NO NO, THIS WOULD NOT BE A THIS IS MORE OF A COLLABORATIVE ORGANIZATION.
OKAY. THE BOARD WE WOULD SET UP WOULD HAVE AS AS IT'S WRITTEN, WOULD HAVE THE FOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEMBERS AND THEN EACH CITY THAT WANTS TO PARTICIPATE. WE'RE HOPING THAT'S EVERY CITY WOULD HAVE A MEMBER ON THE BOARD TO, TO CREATE THE OVERALL FUNCTION, THE BOARD WOULD APPOINT OFFICERS. EXCEPT THE WAY IT'S BEEN WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, THE THE PRESIDENT WOULD BE APPOINTED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, BUT ALL OTHER OFFICERS WOULD BE SELECTED BY THE BOARD, AGAIN, OPEN TO INPUT ON THAT. THE COMMITTEES IS WHERE EVERYTHING WOULD REALLY GET DONE. THAT'S WHERE ALL THE HARD WORK WOULD REALLY GET DONE. I WOULD ENVISION A ROAD COMMITTEE, JUST LIKE WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW, WHERE EVERY CITY HAS A REPRESENTATIVE, AND WE SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THINGS JUST LIKE WE'VE BEEN TALKING TONIGHT. IT WOULDN'T BE CALLED THE CONSORTIUM. IT'D BE CALLED A COMMITTEE. SO TO YOUR POINT, JUDGE, I THINK THE INFORMALITY OF THOSE COMMITTEE MEETINGS WOULD PROBABLY REMAIN, ALTHOUGH I'LL LET SOME LAWYER TELL ME DIFFERENT IF THEY FEEL DIFFERENT. WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN HERE SIX COMMITTEES THAT WE THINK WOULD BE A GOOD STARTING POINT, BUT IT COULD END UP BEING EIGHT OR IT COULD BE END UP BEING FOUR. IT'S WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? WE'VE IDENTIFIED ROADS WHICH WOULD PROBABLY STAY INITIALLY THE BUSIEST. OF COURSE, WATER HYDROLOGY, HYDROLOGY AND DRAINAGE, OPEN SPACES, PUBLIC SAFETY AND GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES. SO AGAIN, EACH OF THESE WOULD BE A COMMITTEE THAT WE'D SET UP IN EACH OF THE CITIES WOULD WANT TO PUT SOMEBODY ON THAT ON THOSE COMMITTEES. OPEN SPACES IS WHAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH. I HAVE A PASSION FOR IT. IT'D BE KIND OF LIKE REPLACING THE OPEN SPACE ALLIANCE OR MAYBE INCORPORATING IT INTO US. AND EACH CITY WOULD SET UP A REPRESENTATIVE, AND WE'D PICK A PRESIDENT OF THAT COMMITTEE OR CHAIRMAN, AND THEN THEY WOULD GO OUT AND GET STUFF DONE. OKAY. HOPEFULLY THE BOARD WOULD ORGANIZE AND DECIDE WHAT COMMITTEES IT WANTS, THE OVERALL CORPORATE BOARD. AND WE GIVE DIRECTION TO THOSE COMMITTEES. IT'D BE LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM DIRECTION AND TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE WANTING FROM THEM, THEN THEY JUST KIND OF WOULD DO WHAT THEY THINK. AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO RUN AN ORGANIZATION, IN MY OPINION. HOW WOULD IT WORK? WELL, THIS WOULD LARGELY BE BE DETERMINED BY THE BOARD THAT WE SET UP. BUT AS AS JUDGE NEW SAID, AND I AGREE WITH HIM, TO ME, WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE IS TO HAVE ALL THESE COMMITTEES. IF WE HAVE FOUR, IF WE HAVE EIGHT, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, MEET MONTHLY AND TRY AND ACCOMPLISH OBJECTIVES AND THEN BRING BACK TO A QUARTERLY BOARD MEETING OF THE CORPORATION. SO THIS ROAD COMMITTEE WOULD CONTINUE TO MEET EVERY MONTH, JUST LIKE IT DOES. WE WOULD HAVE AN OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE. WE WOULD WANT TO MEET EVERY MONTH. WE WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. WE WANT TO MEET EVERY MONTH TO TRY AND BRING COUNTYWIDE SOLUTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS. OKAY. AND THEN THERE ARE PROGRESS OF THOSE COMMITTEES WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE BOARD, GET MONTHLY, GET QUARTERLY REPORTS. RIGHT. I GET THIS STAGE. IT'S JUST DISCUSSION ONLY. BUT WE DISCUSSED IT AT OUR LAST COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING. IF YOU REMEMBER, I BROUGHT THIS TO YOU ALL BACK IN MAY, I THINK IT WAS AND SAID, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS. AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT LOOKED AT THIS LAST AT THEIR LAST MEETING AND SAID, YEAH, LET'S KEEP MOVING AHEAD. WE NEED INPUT FROM EVERY CITY'S. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT THIS AND LOOK AT THIS STRUCTURE. IF YOU WANT TO BRING IN YOUR LAWYERS, HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT. WE'RE GOING TO SEND THIS TO OUR LEGAL TEAM TO LOOK AT AND GET THEIR INPUT ON IT. BUT THIS IS JUST TO TRY AND SAY, LET'S GET THE BEST SOLUTION POSSIBLE FOR OUR COUNTIES AND
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THESE INFRASTRUCTURE CONSORTIUMS. TIME FRAME, I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS WRAPPED UP BY QUARTER ONE OR QUARTER TWO OF 27 MOVING FORWARD IN. VERY LITTLE GETS DONE DURING THE HOLIDAYS. BUT WE'RE STARTING NOW SO WE CAN GET STARTED NOW. AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANY ONE OF YOUR CITIES THAT HAS QUESTIONS, YOUR CITY COUNCILS, OR IF YOU HAVE COMMITTEES OF YOUR COUNCIL, YOU WANT TO TALK TO ME, I'LL MEET WITH ANY OF THEM TO GO OVER IT. I KNOW FRANK WOULD DO THE SAME THING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING. QUESTIONS, IF I MAY, COMMISSIONER? THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT GAVE CAUSE FOR PAUSE. ONE. ONE WOULD BE TIME SERVED ON THE DIRECTORS. SO SO THOSE TWO YEAR TERMS, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE, AS WE'RE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS COINCIDE WITH WHATEVER WHATEVER ENTITIES DATES OF ELECTIONS. SO YOU DON'T FALL INTO A TIME PERIOD WHERE YOU MAY HAVE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT IS NO LONGER IN OFFICE, BUT IS STILL HOLDING THAT DIRECTOR'S SEAT. SO THAT'D BE SO MAYBE THERE'S A PROVISION IN THERE THAT CITIES CAN MOVE. THEY CAN. BUT BUT THROUGH THROUGH THE DOCUMENT, I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY, DEPENDING ON YOUR POINT OF LEVERAGE, IT ALLOWS IT ALLOWS THE ABILITY OF AN UNELECTED OFFICIAL TO STILL BE REPRESENTING THE CITY. OKAY. JUST A POINT OF I HAVE I HAVE NO PROBLEM TRYING TO CLEAR THAT UP, JEREMIAH, TO YOUR SATISFACTION OR EVERYONE ELSE'S.BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T THINK EVERY I, I WOULDN'T EXPECT EVERY PERSON WOULD BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT SERVES ON THESE COMMITTEES. I WAS REFERENCING. I WAS REFERENCING THE THE BOARD AS A BOARD OF DIRECTORS. OKAY. YEAH, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAD THE TERM.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT IT WAS DUPLICATED IN THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. HOWEVER, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS LEVEL, CORRECT? OKAY. GOT IT. AND THEN AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, THE SECOND POINT OF CONCERN WOULD BE THAT YOU REQUIRE A MAJORITY TO BE THE QUORUM. SO IF YOU HAVE. WELL, IT JUST SIMPLE. YEAH, IT'S THE SIMPLE MAJORITY. HOWEVER, YOU MAY RUN INTO AN EVENT WHERE IF WE'RE ALL GETTING CITIZENS TO ACTUALLY SIT AND REPRESENT THE CITY ON, ON A COMMITTEE, AND IT'S A, LET'S SAY IT'S, I GUESS, I GUESS IF THERE'S SIX OF THEM, IT'S ONE, BUT IT DOESN'T DESIGNATE HOW MANY. SO AGAIN, YOU MAY HAVE A WORKING COMMITTEE THAT MIGHT HAVE TEN PEOPLE, BUT YOU MAY HAVE CONFLICTS. AND SO THEREFORE ONLY TWO PEOPLE SHOW UP. OKAY. YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY, BY DEFINITION, IN THE IN THE LEGAL DOCUMENT, YOU CAN'T GET WORK DONE. THAT'S FINE. WE CAN CLEAR THAT UP. YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE POINTS WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS, AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH JANET EARLIER TODAY IS LET'S HOPE WE CAN FIND ENOUGH PEOPLE TO SERVE ON THIS, BECAUSE IT'S KEY THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PASSION FOR WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON AND TRYING TO GET IT DONE IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THINGS. I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB HERE AND SAY, I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT FROM MY TIME IN MY TIME HERE, WHEN I RAISE MY HAND AND SAY I NEED HELP, WELL QUALIFIED PEOPLE SHOW UP. SO I'M I'M LIKE, I SAY, I'M OUT ON A LIMB, BUT I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN SEE. THROW ME YOUR SAW. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHOP THE LIMB OFF. I'LL I'LL I'LL TAKE YOUR GUARANTEE ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS SORT OF WHAT'S WHAT'S THE ULTIMATE POINT? BECAUSE LET'S TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CONSORTIUM. IF THE MAJORITY OF US HAD DECIDED AT ANY GIVEN POINT THAT WE WANTED THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO APPROVE THE OUTER LOOP AND SOME CONFIGURATION, IT REALLY IS THE COMMISSIONERS COURT RESPONSIBILITY. YOU GUYS HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO PRODUCE AND VOTE ON THAT. WE DON'T HAVE WE CAN SUGGEST AND WE CAN ADVISE AS A CONSORTIUM IN REVERSE IN SITUATIONS LIKE WATER, THERE'S ONLY TWO CITIES OR TWO ENTITIES THAT ARE MEMBER CITIES OF NORTH TEXAS, AND WE ARE THE MEMBER CITIES. WE WE DON'T WE WE DON'T NEED ANY OVERSIGHT IN OUR CONSUMPTION OR DISTRIBUTION OF WATER. WE ARE WATER. WE'RE IN THE WATER BUSINESS, I GUESS, TO SAY WE SELL WATER TO OUR PARTNERS AND NEIGHBORS AND OTHER OTHER FOLKS. SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS BOARD DOESN'T HAVE ANY SORT OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHAT'S THE CHARGE? IT IS WHAT'S THE CHARGE? IT IS TO PLAN, DEVELOP, USE AND COORDINATE THE USE OF AND MAINTAIN, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, ROADS, WATER, DRAINAGE, HYDROLOGY, OPEN SPACES, PUBLIC SAFETY AND SERVICES FOR I MEAN, I MEAN, I MEAN, I GET IT, I CAN READ AND I READ IT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING
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LIKE, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER, WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENTS. WE ALREADY COORDINATE TOGETHER. THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, BUT THIS, THIS WOULD PROVIDE WHAT IS SORT OF THE POINT IN SYSTEM. YEAH. AND IN MY OPINION, THIS WOULD PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK FOR COOPERATING AND COLLABORATING NOW. AND DO WE ALWAYS DO IT. SURE WE DO. OF COURSE WE DO.BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE HAVING ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRE PAYMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, RIGHT? THINGS LIKE THAT. FIRST, I WAS THE PERSON WHO THREW THE GRENADE IN THE. YEAH, WELL, THAT'S FINE, BUT LET'S GET LET'S LET'S HAVE DISCUSSIONS.
MY CITIZENS ARE PAYING. YEAH. AND SINCE IT'S SINCE IT'S THE COUNTY THAT'S HAVING TO WRITE THE CHECKS, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN IT. RIGHT. AND WE GOT TO HAVE MAKE THE DECISION. BUT WHY NOT HAVE EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND TRY AND FIND SOLUTIONS THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY. YOU ON THAT? YEAH. AND THAT'S A BIG ONE, RIGHT? THAT IS A BIG ONE. THAT'S A BIG ONE. WE, WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE SHARED SERVICES IN THAT CASE, AS AN EXAMPLE, FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE, WE GET $493 A CALL. IT COSTS US 1900 SOMETHING DOLLARS A CALL. MY TAXPAYERS ARE, ARE, ARE FOOTING THE BILL FOR ALMOST $200,000 WORTH OF SERVICES THAT ARE FOR THE COUNTY. AND THOSE PEOPLE DON'T PAY TAXES TO OUR CITY. SO YEAH, WE'RE INTERESTED IN JUST KIND OF LIKE NATO. WE WANT EVERYBODY TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE, AND WE WANT TO PAY OUR FAIR SHARE ON OTHER THINGS TOO. WELL, WELL, AND THAT'S A LEGITIMATE PLACE FOR A COMMITTEE TO WORK. BUT WHEN WE GET INTO THINGS LIKE WATER, TO ME, THAT'S FOR ME. AND I'M GOING TO I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR JANET AND ROY CITY, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION WITH WATER, RIGHT. THE COUNTY DOESN'T SERVE WATER. DO NOT. AND AND AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THE, THE WAY THIS BOARD IS SORT OF CONFIGURED, IT, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS HEAVILY WEIGHTED TOWARD THE COUNTY. WHEN MANY OF THESE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED FOR, FUNDED AND MANAGED ALREADY BY THE CITIES, US BEING THE LARGEST ONE. SO. SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S A LITTLE A LITTLE UNSURE WHAT THE WHAT THE CHARGE IS, IF YOU WILL JUDGE. SO SO TO MY POINT, I WAS BEING A LITTLE FACETIOUS, BUT TO HIS POINT, HE WENT, HE WENT AND DOVE STRAIGHT IN. I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PURPOSE OF THE ARTICLES INFORMATION, YOU ARE LOST IN THE SAUCE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. SO SO I UNDERSTAND AT A MACRO LEVEL, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO COLLABORATE, WE'D LIKE TO PLAN. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT BUT AGAIN, WE'RE PROBABLY MISSING A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE CORE INGREDIENT OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT ARE THE MECHANISMS AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH IT? LET ME JUST ADD THAT WE HAVE THERE'S A LOT OF FRIENDSHIPS AROUND THIS TABLE, AND I HAVE NO DOUBT WE CAN WORK ON FIRE CONTRACTS AND OTHER THINGS. BUT WHAT I CAN'T DO AS THE MAYOR FOR THE LARGEST CITY IN THIS COUNTY IS ALLOW A BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO CONTROL WHAT MY CITIZENS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, TO DO OR NOT TO DO. LET ME TELL YOU, I WOULD HOPE THAT NO ONE EVER SUGGESTS THAT THAT BOARD OF DIRECTORS WOULD CONTROL WHAT YOUR CITY CAN DO. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU THAT WATER IS A DICEY ONE BECAUSE WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS RIGHT. THERE'S ALSO BLACK LAND AND THERE'S RC H, WHICH YOU GET WATER FROM. I KNOW WE SUPPLY HEAT AND WE SUPPLY WELL, WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM RC. AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION OR THE THE ANSWER MAY BE THAT COMMITTEE SERVES NO PURPOSE. AND IF WE DECIDE THAT I DON'T REALLY CARE, I MEAN, BUT IF IT CAN SERVE A PURPOSE AND IF WE GET AROUND A TABLE AND WE TALK AND WE DISCUSS, DECIDE THAT MAYBE DISCUSSION IS HELPFUL, THEN THEN IT'S BENEFICIAL AGAIN, THIS IS, I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE OF THOSE PUBLIC SAFETY, I THINK, IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS. WE HAVE JOINT CALL AGREEMENTS, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN US. WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL FIGHTING THE SAME BATTLES. WE ALL ARE PARTNERS WITH THE EMS CORPORATION. THAT'S A GREAT ONE FOR THAT, FOR THAT GROUP TO TALK. YEAH. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALREADY HAVE A MECHANISM ON THE EMS SIDE BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE REPRESENTATIVES THAT SIT ON THE. OKAY. BUT LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK FURTHER BEFORE, AS YOU SAID, JEREMIAH, WE JUMP RIGHT INTO THE SAUCE. LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK FURTHER AND ASK OURSELVES THE ULTIMATE QUESTION. I THINK, TIM, IS, IS THIS FORMAT HELPFUL? BECAUSE IF THIS FORMAT IS HELPFUL ON ROADS, I SURE THINK IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL ON OPEN SPACES. OKAY. AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL ON PUBLIC SERVICE. YOU NOTICE I DIDN'T PUT SCHOOLS IN HERE, OKAY, BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE A THING WE COULD TALK ABOUT. BUT MY POINT IS, IF ON A MACRO LEVEL, IT HELPS TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS EXPANDING THOSE DISCUSSIONS TO THINGS OTHER THAN ROADS AND TO INFRASTRUCTURE TO TRY AND HELP US ALL TO WORK TOGETHER TO BRING SOLUTIONS. I DON'T WANT
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TO TAKE YOUR AUTHORITY. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE JEREMIAH'S AUTHORITY OR JERRY'S OR ANYBODY ELSE'S. OKAY, I'M THINKING ABOUT TAKING SOME OF YOURS, BUT BUT BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYBODY'S AUTHORITY. AND SIMILARLY, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THE COUNTY'S AUTHORITY. BUT IF WE FEEL THIS DISCUSSION FORMAT CAN BE HELPFUL, AND I KNOW IT'S GONE UP AND DOWN, THAT FIRST MEETING I EVER WENT TO IN THE ROAD CONSORTIUM WAS 2008. OKAY. AND IT'S GONE UP HEADS UPS AND DOWNS. I THINK WE'RE RIGHT NOW ON AN UP TRACK ON IT, WHICH I LIKE BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING OPEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT REALLY MATTER. BUT IF THAT'S HELPFUL, THEN WHAT I'M SAYING IS, LET'S LOOK AT ALL THESE INFRASTRUCTURE AREAS. AND IF WE DECIDE WE DON'T WANT WATER, OKAY, YOU KNOW, JIM PARK, RIGHT? THE GUY WHO USED TO BE WITH NORTH TEXAS, I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THIS SPECIFICALLY. I SAID IN THIS KIND OF FORMAT, AND I DESCRIBED IT TO HIM. WOULD IT BE HELPFUL? AND HE THOUGHT FOR A MINUTE AND HE SAID, YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE ENGAGING PEOPLE IN CONVERSATIONS. I'M NOT TAKING YOUR AUTHORITY. YOU GOT TO WORK OUT A CONTRACT WITH JEREMIAH, BY THE WAY. I HOPE YOU DO, BECAUSE I GET WATER THERE TOO, RIGHT? YEAH. BUT MAYOR MCCALLUM, THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU BECAUSE I TO READ THE DOCUMENT SIMILARLY. YEAH, KIND OF KIND OF RE DIGESTED IT AND THE WAY THAT I SEE IT AND JUDGE COMMISSIONER, CORRECT ME WHERE I'M WRONG. AS MAYORS, WE COLLABORATE A LOT. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IN, IN THE PAST THAT WE HAVE ALL, AS CITIES ALL COLLABORATED A LOT. WE'VE CREATED THAT CULTURE AS MAYORS TO, TO WORK TOGETHER AND REGULARLY MEET. I THINK THIS IS A FORMALIZATION OF WAYS TO COLLABORATE WITHIN ALL THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND HYPER FOCUSING ON TODAY. I BELIEVE I JUST HEARD THE COMMISSIONER SAY, HEY, LOOK, WE'VE CREATED SOME PILLARS, BUT AS BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WE MAY CHANGE THOSE PILLARS. AND AS FAR AS HOW THE FORM AND FUNCTION WORKS, I THINK, I THINK IT COULD BE US ISOLATING IN THOSE MEETINGS. AND WE BE THE VOLUNTEER THAT IS ON THOSE COMMITTEES. AS WE ALL SIT HERE TODAY FOR THE ROAD CONSORTIUM. HOWEVER, THERE ARE ALSO SAYING, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO BRING IN OTHER EXPERTS THAT ARE RESIDENTS THAT DO WANT TO SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF AND WORK ON THESE THINGS TANGIBLY, AS YOU'VE PROBABLY DONE WITHIN YOUR COUNCIL, I KNOW WE'VE DONE IT WITHIN OUR COUNCIL. IN FACT, WE SPENT 12 MONTHS WHERE WE'RE DIFFERENT. COUNCIL MEMBERS RAN SUBCOMMITTEES BECAUSE WE COULDN'T RUN FAST ENOUGH IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO GO SOLICIT EXPERTS, BRING THEM IN, BRING THEM IN TO A LOT OF A LOT OF DIALOG. AND WHILE WE'RE WORKING AT A MACRO LEVEL, WE NEED THESE COMMITTEES TO, TO START TEASING THINGS OUT SO THEY COULD REPORT BACK. YOU ALL ARE THE POLICY MAKERS FOR THOSE INITIATIVES. AGREED. AND HERE AND HERE, THAT GOES BACK TO, I THINK, WHERE WE MIGHT BE MISSING THAT SOME OF THAT FORM AND FUNCTION IN THE DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? I THINK IT IS WRITTEN AMBIGUOUSLY TO TO ASSIST THE FORMATION OF THE DOCUMENT. BUT MAYBE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS BEING MAYBE THE NEXT STEP IN OUR GROWTH PATTERN, WE MAY WANT TO ISOLATE MORE SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WHAT IS THE ROOT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? YEAH.LET'S DO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS BASED ON POPULATION. WELL, LET'S SO LET'S, LET'S DO THIS.
I KNEW THAT WAS COMING. YEP. SO LET'S DO THIS. SO EVERYBODY WAS EMAILED THE DOCUMENTS. TAKE A LOOK AT THEM SUGGEST CHANGES. I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A TOP DOWN WHERE THE COUNTY SAYS THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE. IF IF I MEAN, TAKE A LOOK AT THE FORM AND FUNCTION. JEREMIAH AND I HAD THE CONVERSATION TODAY AND, AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS, COME BACK AND LET'S, LET'S REVIEW THIS AGAIN NEXT MONTH AND THEN HAVE SOME SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT HERE'S WHAT THE FORM AND FUNCTION SHOULD BE. I LIKE THE STRUCTURE. I LIKE THE IDEA OF A BOARD AND SUBCOMMITTEES BECAUSE AS MAYOR MCCLURE SAID, I THINK THAT GETS MORE DONE. I JUST I THINK WE GET OUT INTO THE INTO THE REAL WORLD AND GET THINGS DONE. LET'S TAKE SOME TIME TO DIGEST IT, AND I'LL GO BACK AND TALK TO MY MEMBERS. YEAH. AND AGAIN, IF, IF, IF ANY OF THE CITY, IF, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO JUST KICK THIS AROUND, DISCUSS IT, MAN. I'M OPEN. I GOT NOTHING ELSE TO DO. AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MAYOR MCALLEN. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT AS YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ARTICLES OF FORMATION AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT STRATEGICALLY CREATING A LOT OF FORM AND FUNCTION TO SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T EXIST PRIOR. THEN THE NEXT STEP AS A AS THE LEGISLATIVE BODIES WITHIN OUR CITIES IS WE THINK, OKAY, NOW, NOW, NOW WE'VE GOT DISCUSSION AND ACTION, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE DECIDING CUMULATIVELY WHERE THINGS HAPPEN, AS IF FATE OR HEATH MAY POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO OUTVOTE SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY NOT EVEN WITHIN OUR JURISDICTIONS. I THINK THAT'S WHERE HE'S SOMEWHAT CONCERNED. HESITANT AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE AMBIGUITY
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OF WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS. WELL, BECAUSE THE OTHER THING IS, I KNOW THE MAYORS, AS YOU'VE SAID, WE HAVE A VERY TIGHT GROUP OF MAYORS TODAY. THAT MAY NOT ALWAYS BE THE CASE. IT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE. BUT THE ONE THING I KNOW ABOUT ALL THESE MAYORS CURRENTLY SITTING IS WE'RE ALL ACTION ORIENTED. WE'RE NOT SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR COMMITTEES TO DECIDE THINGS BEFORE WE MAKE MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. NONE OF US ARE THAT WAY.AND, AND SO I, FOR ONE, AM NOT GOING TO SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR COMMITTEES TO DISCUSS SOMETHING BEFORE I FOCUS ON IT. IN MY CITY, THAT HAS NEVER BEEN THE WAY WE'VE OPERATED. AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY I WANT TO OPERATE IN THE FUTURE. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT HOW YOU OPERATE.
SURE. AND I KNOW JANET VERY WELL, TOO, AND THAT'S NOT HOW SHE OPERATES. SO I JUST WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT WE ALL HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES TO OUR CITIZENS, AND WE TAKE THOSE SERIOUSLY. I KNOW WE ALL DO, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO DON'T GET BOGGED DOWN IN JUST ENDLESS COMMITTEE WORK WHILE, WHILE WE'RE. AND THAT CAN'T NEGATE THE ACTION THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO TAKE. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO SOLVE EVERY DAY. ROADS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, AND THAT'S THE EXAMPLE THAT'S BEEN BEEN GIVEN. BUT EVEN WHEN ROAD PROJECTS HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, MOVED, YOU KNOW, AS FAST AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOUNDERING AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. YOU KNOW, IN OUR CITY, WE'VE TAKEN ACTION RECENTLY. WE GOT THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED WITH RTC DIRECTLY TO GET THE 205 AND THE JOHN KING THUN THUN. THAT WAS THE CITY OF ROCKWALL DOING THAT. THAT WASN'T A LOT OF FLUFF AND CIRCUMSTANCE. THE CITY OF ROCKWELL'S MAKING THAT HAPPEN BY BEING, HAVING AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH TO WORKING WITH RTC AND WITH TECH STOCK. SO, SO AND WE THEN WE COME BACK AND WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS, THE COUNTY AND OTHER AND OTHER FOLKS. SO I JUST THINK I DON'T WANT US TO GET BOGGED DOWN IN COMMITTEES AND THAT NEGATE THE WORK THAT WE'RE ALL DOING. AND MOST OF US ARE HERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. YEAH, I'M HERE FOR SIX YEARS. YOU'RE HERE FOR AROUND THE SAME RIGHT? IF WE'RE REELECTED, THOSE THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO TRY TO AND I'VE GOT YOU. YEAH. I THINK WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THE COMMITTEES WERE ABLE TO OUTRUN AND LAP THE FIELD, BECAUSE THEY WENT AN INCH WIDE AND A MILE DEEP INTO THESE AREAS IN YOUR CITY, IN THE CORRECT, IN THE IN THE IN THE CITY. BUT BY BRINGING IN SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, WE GOT PRETTY SMART, PRETTY QUICK ON THE AREAS THAT WERE WERE OUR PAIN POINTS. RIGHT. AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE'S MORE COMMONALITIES THAN DISSIMILARITIES AMONGST THE CITIES IN THIS SMALL COUNTY THAT WE ALL LIVE IN. AND IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, THERE'S NO ACTIONS, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
RIGHT. SO THEY'RE STILL COMING BACK TO THAT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, RIGHT? SO MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION OF THE CADENCE, RIGHT? QUARTERLY. DON'T KNOW. LOOK, I'M NOT I'M NOT TRYING TO BE THE NAYSAYER. I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE AN OBJECTIVE VIEW HERE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS WE FORM THIS, THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST UNDERSTANDING HOW WE EACH, WE EACH OPERATE DIFFERENTLY. WE EACH HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS. MANY OF THEM ARE THE SAME, LIKE ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE ALL HAVE WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT CONSTITUENT NEEDS AND WE HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT. SO CAN I, CAN I GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE BECAUSE I'M I AGREE WITH YOU, TIM. I DON'T LIKE GETTING BOGGED DOWN IN COMMITTEES, AND I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO WAIT FOR ANY OF THESE COMMITTEES TO MAKE YOUR CITY THE WAY IT RUN. IT SHOULD.
BUT LET ME GIVE YOU A REAL GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW I THINK THIS COULD BE BENEFICIAL. AND I'M GOING TO GO TO OPEN SPACES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED ON FOR A LONG, LONG TIME HERE DECADES. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON A COUNTY WIDE TRAIL PLAN. OKAY. AND WE'VE BEEN TO YOUR CITY. THEY'VE BEEN HELPFUL. WE'VE BEEN TO MCLENNAN CHISHOLM, THEY'VE BEEN HELPFUL. HEATH'S BEEN HELPFUL. BUT IF WE HAD EACH OF THE MAYORS TELL THEIR PARK BOARD DIRECTOR. I WANT YOU TO SIT ON THIS OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE. OKAY. AND THAT COMMITTEE HAD TO ANSWER TO. AND ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE GAVE THEM A CHARGE WAS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET FROM, AS I ALWAYS SAY, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER AT TERRY PARK TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER IN ROYSE CITY AND STOP AT BUCKY'S, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT'S OUT OF THE COUNTY. OKAY, BUT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THERE WITHOUT GETTING ON ON HIGHWAYS AND WE CAN DO IT ON A BICYCLE IF WE WANT, I BET WE'D HAVE BETTER PROGRESS AND I BET THEY'D GET INTO IT. MORE TO YOUR POINT, SCOTT, THEY WOULD LOOK AT THAT SPECIFIC ISSUES AND WE WOULD HAVE EVERY CITY SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? YEAH, WE WANT TO GET THIS DONE. AND MAYBE THERE'S NOTHING FOR WATER. AGAIN, THAT'S A DECISION WE HAVE TO MAKE. MAYBE OPEN SPACE. MAYBE WE START WITH OPEN SPACE. THAT'S MY ONLY POINT. YEAH. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE. JAMES BRANCH HAS BEEN VERY PATIENT THAT THAT WAS I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK IF WE WANT TO DO THAT. THE ONLY THING AND I AGREE WITH TIM THAT WE
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ARE IN THE BUSINESS, AND I THINK WATER AND SEWER IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD STAY OFF LIMITS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT IS A YOU GUYS ARE A MEMBER CITY. WE'RE MEMBER CITY, WE PROVIDE WATER, SELL IT. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WATER AND SEWER WOULD BE THE.NOW, IF THAT COMMITTEE CAN GET HEATH TO CONSERVE WATER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. YEAH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEATH, BUT I THINK BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRE SERVICE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPEN SPACE ROADS. YES. BUT THE OTHER POINT WITH THAT TOO IS MY QUESTION IS, IS OKAY, WE DO THAT AND YOU TELL THEM DESIGN A TRAIL, BUT PASS THAT, WHAT ARE WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN IF THEY GIVE SUGGESTIONS? IS THE COURT ACTUALLY GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT? AND MAYBE I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, JUST LIKE THE MAYOR'S CAN'T RELINQUISH THEIR AUTHORITY. SAME THING WITH THE COURT. ANY FUNDING HAS TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. WHAT WILL HAPPEN? JAMES? I KNOW THAT EVERY EVERY ISSUE HAS FINANCIAL CONSEQUENCES, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. BUT I KNOW THAT IF WE'RE NOT TRYING AND WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN NOTHING HAPPENS. I GUESS MY POINT IS WE DON'T WANT TO MEET JUST TO MEET. WE ALL HAVE A TON OF MEETINGS. YEP. AND ADDING ANOTHER MEETING TO TALK. I MEAN, WE CAN DO THAT OVER THE PHONE IF THAT'S WHAT. BUT I MEAN, IF IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING, THEN I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. TECHNICALLY, PER THE PER THE DOCUMENTS YOU GUYS WILL SEE. I MEAN, IT'S A MINIMIZATION OF ACTUAL MEETINGS. IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU DO YOUR DESIGNATIONS AND YOUR COMMITTEES WELL, BUT EVEN JUST ADDING ANOTHER MEETING IS STILL. NO, I'M JUST SAYING AS FAR, AS FAR AS THE DIRECTORS, THOUGH, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO INCREASE YOUR WORKLOAD. YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT YOUR CITY INSIDE THOSE COMMITTEES, RIGHT? IF THE DIRECTOR ACTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO GO AROUND THE HORN REAL QUICK. THANK YOU FOR THE ROBUST DIALOG. ROYSE CITY, WHAT'S GOING ON? WE'RE GETTING WORK DONE. LOTS, LOTS GOING ON IN ROYSE CITY. YES. LOTS GOING.
DO YOU WANT TO ELABORATE OR. NO, NO. 7:00. YES, MA'AM. WELL DONE. IT'S TOP SECRET. ROCKWALL.
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY OF ROCKWALL? I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A COUPLE THINGS REALLY QUICK. WE.
WE DID APPROVE AN AWARD. NORTH LAKESHORE, $19.5 MILLION ROAD CONTRACT. IT'LL START HERE PRETTY QUICKLY. IT'LL TAKE ABOUT A YEAR. AND THAT'S FROM MASTERS DOWN TO 66. SO IT'S A REALLY BIG PROJECT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SOME OTHER ROAD, SMALL ROAD REPAIRS AND THINGS LIKE THAT GOING WORKING ON A COUPLE OTHER PROJECTS. AND THEN WE DID, AS MANY OF YOU ALREADY KNOW, WE DID BRING IN AND HIRE A TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANT OURSELVES. AND, AND IT'S ONE THAT FORMERLY WAS USED BY THE COUNTY. NOW THEY'RE NOT USED BY THE COUNTY. SO WE'VE DECIDED TO BRING THEM IN TO HELP US MOVE OUR PROJECTS FORWARD. AND SO WE CAN BE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH OUR ROAD PROJECTS AND WITH COORDINATION WITH RTC AND TXDOT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO THOSE WILL BE CITY RELATED PROJECTS. BUT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND, AND WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT ROADS. SO WE'RE WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO IT. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR JAFFE, WHAT'S GOING ON IN POETRY? WELL, IT'S A SMALL TOWN WITH NO PROPERTY TAX AT THE MOMENT. SALES TAX IS A BIG ISSUE FOR US. AND WE'RE ON THE BALLOT WITH A RENEWAL. AND, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS IN AUSTIN DECIDED THAT WE NEEDED TO LABEL ANY CONTINUANCE OF A SALES TAX AS A TAX INCREASE. YES, SIR. SO WE, WITH A LOT OF OTHER GROUPS, ARE SORT OF WAITING WITH BATED BREATH TO SEE HOW THIS TURNS OUT, HOW THE CITIZENS REACT TO IT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD IF IT WERE TO FAIL. IT'S A RENEWAL THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR YEARS. WE'RE HAVING TO RENEW IT BY LAW. BUT IF THAT WERE TO FAIL, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF MONEY OUT OF OUR VERY TINY BUDGET, WHICH IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN ROADS. SO WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.
COMMISSIONER LICHTY YEAH, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FOCUS ON IN CONNECTION WITH THE NEXT BOND ISSUANCE IS SOME COUNTY ROADS WHERE WE'VE GOT SOME REAL ISSUES. STEPHENS DOWN BY YOU GUYS. MUNSON ROAD. JONES ROAD ALL IN PRECINCT THREE. I'VE NOTICED WE GOT SOME BUT WE GOT SOME REAL COUNTY ROADS WE GOT TO LOOK AT. AND THOSE WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY FIT IN THE 2021 BONDS. IF THEY DO AGREE.
MAYOR BREWER, WE GOT THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE FIXING THE ROAD THAT THE DEVELOPER HASN'T ALREADY AGREED TO. CONCRETE WILL BE WORKING ON THE REST OF IT, AND WE GOT SOME OTHER GOOD THINGS. I THINK I'LL BE COMING, BUT I'M JUST NOT PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT IT YET. OKAY. BUILD A LITTLE, LITTLE SUSPENSE THERE. YEAH, YEAH. JUST A COMMENT ON THE THE FORMATION, NOT NECESSARILY THE FORMATION DOCUMENTS, BUT I KNOW WHAT IT
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WAS LIKE BEFORE THE EMERGENCY SERVICES CORPORATION KICKED OFF. AND IT WAS SUCH A BRILLIANT IDEA, THIS GOVERNMENTAL CORPORATION THAT IT MADE IT ARTICLES AND WENT STATEWIDE AND EVEN NATIONWIDE. SO IT'S A BIG DEAL. SO I SAW HOW COLLABORATIVE THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY COULD GET, BECAUSE THEY WERE PRETTY DISJOINTED AT THE TIME BROUGHT LIKE WE HAVE NOW. MAYOR'S MEETINGS BROUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE TO THE TABLE THAT WEREN'T EVER AT THE TABLE BEFORE. AND I CAN FURTHER EDIFY THAT WITH COUNCILMAN DODSON'S POSITION THAT I ALSO SAW WHEN WE DEVELOPED SUBCOMMITTEES IN HEATH HOW FAST WE COULD GET DONE WHEN WE CONCENTRATED ON ONE THING. AND SO I JUST WANT TO EDIFY THE WHOLE PROCESS. I THINK IT'S BRILLIANT. I DON'T WANT TO COMMENT ON ANY OF THE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, PARTICULARLY UNTIL WE GIVE SOME COMMENTS AND EMAIL RESPONSES. BUT I JUST WANT TO EDIFY THE PROCESS. IT'S I'VE SEEN IT BE VERY HELPFUL IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. AND I WOULD FURTHER SAY THE ESC WAS BORN OUT OF AMBULANCE. IT WAS BORN OUT OF EMS. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE IT SAT FOR ABOUT A YEAR UNTIL THEY DECIDED, HEY, WE NEED TO ADDRESS EMERGENCY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. AND THEN NOW WE HAVE A FORMATION OF A BRANCH THERE. AND THEY WERE ABLE TO BOND. AND SO THEY, THEY BORROWED MONEY AND BUILT THE GUN RANGE, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL.COST THE COUNTY LESS, COST THE CITIES LESS. EVERYBODY GETS TO USE IT. SO JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF HOW I THINK THIS COULD BE REALLY VALUABLE IF WE DO IT RIGHT. GOT IT. ARE YOU GOING TO LET THAT BE HEATH'S UPDATE? WE'RE GETTING FOOD TRUCKS AT THE TOWN CENTER PARK. THANKS,
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